Several Justices Express Dismay at Long Delays in Returning Seized Cars to Innocent Owners
Without a prompt post-seizure hearing, people can lose their property for months or years even when they ultimately get it back.

In February 2019, police in Satsuma, Alabama, pulled over Halima Culley's son and arrested him for possession of marijuana and drug paraphernalia. They seized the car, which belonged to Culley, and tried to keep it under Alabama's civil forfeiture law. Although Culley ultimately got her car back as an "innocent owner," that process took 20 months.
That same month, a friend borrowed Lena Sutton's car. He was pulled over in Leesburg, Alabama, and arrested for methamphetamine possession. Like Culley, Sutton successfully invoked the "innocent owner" defense to get her car back after police seized it. But that did not happen for over a year. In the meantime, her lawyer told the U.S. Supreme Court on Monday, "she missed medical appointments, she wasn't able to keep a job, she wasn't able to pay a cell phone bill, and as a result" she "was not in a position to be able to communicate about the forfeiture proceedings."
In separate class-action lawsuits, Culley and Sutton unsuccessfully argued that they and similarly situated property owners have a due process right to a prompt post-seizure hearing aimed at determining whether they can keep their cars while a forfeiture case is pending. The issue for the Supreme Court in Culley v. Marshall is which standard to apply in deciding that question. During oral arguments in the case, several justices showed a heartening awareness of the injustices inflicted by civil asset forfeiture, a system of legalized larceny that allows law enforcement agencies to pad their budgets by confiscating allegedly crime-tainted property.
"I'm very sympathetic [to] the problem that you've identified," Justice Neil Gorsuch, who has previously expressed concern about civil forfeiture abuses, told Shay Dvoretzky, the attorney representing Culley and Sutton. "Clearly, there are some jurisdictions that are using civil forfeiture as funding mechanisms," he noted. They therefore are not keen to expedite innocent owners' challenges, he said, and may impose onerous requirements, such as telling forfeiture victims, "You can get your car back if you call between 3 and 5 p.m. on a Tuesday and speak with someone who is never available."
In other words, Gorsuch said, "there are arguments to be made that there are attempts to create processes that are deeply unfair and obviously so in order to retain the property for the coffers of the state." He also noted "allegations before us" that "some states, because law enforcement uses these forfeitures to fund themselves," have been known to demand that an owner surrender some of his property in exchange for getting the rest back or "engage in other concessions outside of regular process." The due process test that Alabama prefers "would seem to strip the courts of tools to deal with those kinds of cases," he told Alabama Solicitor General Edmund G. LaCour Jr., who argued that "the forfeiture proceeding without more provides the post-seizure hearing required by due process."
In contrast with previous civil forfeiture cases, Gorsuch added, "we know a lot more now…about how civil forfeiture is being used in some states, about the kinds of abuses that it's subject to, about the kind of incentives operating on law enforcement officers that tend toward those abuses." If "we look around the world and we think there are real problems here and those problems would be solved if you got a really quick probable cause determination," he asked LaCour, "why shouldn't we do that?"
Justice Sonia Sotomayor, who like Gorsuch has a history of questioning civil forfeiture practices, also highlighted the problems created by laws that give cops a license to steal. "We know there are abuses of the forfeiture system," she said. "We know it because it's been documented throughout the country repeatedly." Those laws, she noted, give police a financial incentive "to seize property to keep its value as opposed to issues of probable cause or issues of legitimacy of the seizure." That incentive, she said, "has often led to months, if not years, of retention of property that ultimately gets returned to the owner," either "because there was…no probable cause" or "because of the innocent owner defense." Yes, the process can take years.
If innocent owners like Culley and Sutton could seek the return of their cars before a final determination of whether they are subject to forfeiture, LaCour warned, "you're going to have more property released to criminals, it's going to potentially be misused again, crime will pay more, and you will have more crime." Sotomayor pushed back: "I doubt very much that criminal defendants from whom cars have been taken are going to seek a retention hearing because whatever they say will be used against them in the criminal case." She noted that there is no evidence to support LaCour's scenario in New York, where owners are entitled to such hearings within 10 business days of a seizure.
"These cases are most important for one group of people, innocent owners, because they are people who claim they didn't know about the criminal activity," Sotomayor said. "Many of these cases involve parents with…teenage or close-to-teenage children involved in drug activity. The ones that don't may involve spouses or friends….It is not criminals keeping cars. It's innocent owners receiving back their cars months, if not years, later."
Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson amplified Sotomayor's point. These cases, she said, involve people who "say that they're innocent owners, that they own the property and that they knew nothing about the drugs."
Nicole Reaves, assistant to U.S. Solicitor General Elizabeth Prelogar, joined LaCour in arguing that due process requires nothing more than "a timely final forfeiture hearing." Sotomayor again was not buying it. "You keep saying 'timely,'" she said. "I don't know what 'timely' is….Some hearings, by the nature of what the courts are doing, are taking up to a year or more. I don't consider that timely if I'm an innocent owner who relies on my car…for survival."
Regarding the history of civil forfeiture, Sotomayor noted that "English common law provided post-seizure process separate from the final forfeiture hearing." While "we don't have a similar history in early American courts," she said, that's because civil forfeiture in the United States was, until relatively recently, narrowly and expeditiously applied.
"Except for pirate ships and some isolated other types of seizures, we don't have a robust forfeiture process until the 1970s," Sotomayor noted. "If the common law doesn't have a clearly established process, does that mean no process is ever due, or does it mean that we have to judge it by the circumstances that exist in modern times? I would think it's the latter….Forfeitures were quicker earlier in our history. Forfeitures were rare. And now we've expanded them to all sorts of property interests, even those involving innocent owners. It's a new thing."
The Institute for Justice, which filed a brief in support of Culley and Sutton, welcomed Sotomayor et al.'s acknowledgment of civil forfeiture's unfair consequences. "Without a prompt hearing after their property is seized, innocent owners can lose the use of their vehicle for months or years, causing great hardship," said Institute for Justice senior attorney Dan Alban. "The Court asked tough questions about how to apply past precedent in evaluating the adequacy of forfeiture procedures. However the Court answers those questions, we hope a majority will recognize that it simply is not constitutional for the government to hold someone's car or other property for months or even years without any way to get a hearing."
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Maybe the courts should just rule that due process requires a full judicial hearing BEFORE the cops can take our stuff, with the possible exception of evidence in connection with an actual arrest?
And in that case (evidence in connection with an actual arrest) the hearing must take place within 10 days. We as citizens cannot simply accept "legal" theft as an OK practice, which is what we seem to have currently. I would say seizing cash at any time should get a hearing in 24 hours. Otherwise it's returned to its owner. If that's too inconvenient for the authorities, then they can't steal the cash period, and the problem solves itself..
That would result in charges getting dropped in a lot of cases. The prosecution doesn't want to show its hand until it's investigation is completed. Often it hasn't even had a chance to take the case to a grand jury within ten days.
One can agree that civil forfeiture needs to be contained without going to the other extreme and eliminating criminal prosecutions.
Why would demonstrating that a crime occurred reduce criminal cases? Your argument seems to be "Yeah, police stealing stuff is bad...but we do not want to do anything to INCONVENIENCE them."
The police have already convinced a judge that a crime occurred in order to get a warrant. Or they observed a crime occurring.
Ok. I'm fine with that.
Instead of snagging cars of some dude with a broken taillight who gets caught with a dime, they can fast track big dealers caught and let the little fish go.
In ANY case where this proposal would result in dropping the case, there was NEVER cause to seize the assets at all.
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You mean, like there should be a process, that is due, before the government can seize our property?
What a concept.
Yeah; I read about it in an parchment document by a bunch of old white guys, but it still sounded like a cool idea.
Their big concern is how fast innocent people can get their stuff back?!?! How convoluted this country has become.
They should get rid of civil forfeiture entirely, because of rampant abuse. It is not stopping any crime! It is not a deterrent. It has no place in the land of the free.
I had a friend traveling with 10k in cash to buy a pinball machine. He was terrified the entire trip he would get pulled over and have it stolen. Not by a gang, or criminals, but by the law for nothing more than traveling with it.
I don't even like it with a conviction, but I can at least understand that shit!
That has been one of my big beefs. Yeah, having lots of cash COULD mean drug dealing. It could also mean somebody prefers to have their money on their person and not at a bank.
Having tons of cash, even if a crime occurs, does not equate to the cash having involvement. Forfeiture 100% should require due process. And extremely quick due process. A week, at most, or else everything is returned. If you have a warrant for the car, then keep the car.
I know a guy with a dyslexic, learning disabled and somewhat eccentric brother. He has trouble socially but is law abiding and an excellent mechanic. He travels to buy and sell motorcycles, parts and like. More than 10 years ago, police in Oklahoma pulled him over for speeding and confiscated over $12,000 in cash merely because they could. The poor man could barely understand the process, let alone successfully navigate it to get his property back. Of all the people who couldn't afford to suffer such a crime, he was certainly way up on the list.
When someone is arrested in a vehicle not in their name, it should be presumed stolen until proven otherwise. In such cases, if the vehicle is not returned to the owner IMMEDIATELY, the owner should be provided with an equivalent vehicle at no cost until it is returned.
"a really quick probable cause determination"
Seriously? That's all they're asking?
The "guilt" of the car should be decided by the outcome of the trial of the owner. If the owner is convicted, take her car. If not, not (except cars seized for evidence and returned when they're no longer needed for that purpose).
If the decision comes down to the right to a hearing on probable cause, then I suspect the government will be winning most of these hearings, even where it ends up losing in the final hearing.
See my other comment.
If Sotomayor can figure out how, she'll write an opinion making civil asset forfeiture illegal only when it happens to drug addicts and minorities. Because she's a Wise Latina.
They might throw us a bone and speed up the process, but they won't end the practice.
Don't worry, the honorable Mr. Gorsuch is "very sympathetic". Heads will start rolling any minute now.
If the choice is "small step in the right direction" vs. "status quo" I know which I'd choose.
I wonder how the Left will blame SCOTUS if they overturn or severely limit civil asset forfeiture.
I hate to be the "both sides" person in the room, but what makes you think it is the left ?
https://reason.com/2015/06/09/this-map-details-whether-asset-forfeitur/
In all too many cases, "both sides" really are at fault. No reason not to call 'em on it.
You forget that the nutty far left wants to abolish police and never incarcerate anyone, much less take property.
Last I checked the far left was all about taking property.
When no one owns property, then everyone owns property.
You’ve got to MC Escher the views of the far left.
I was being sarcastic.
DEAD WRONG. When no one owns property, the government owns everyone.
No, they absolutely want to take property.
See, ACAB - except for the special police that are beating in the heads of white people.
In my experience, the most ardent defense of forfeiture often comes from the lawn order right.
Reason has been a consistent voice speaking out against forfeiture abuses. It has to be satisfying to see the issue reach the Supreme Court. Hopefully we'll get a good result in a few months.
I agree. The sane left and sane right ought to agree on this.
Playing devil's advocate here for a moment: the take-home for me of the two examples given in the article would be: "Don't loan your vehicle to druggies." If your livelihood and important life activities depend on having that vehicle for transportation, why on earth would you "loan" it to anyone else? Telling the Court that the vehicle was so important to you that your life was ruined by not having the vehicle for twenty months, but that it was not too important to risk losing it by loaning it to someone else seems to undermine your position.
It is not your job to police your friends and acquaintances.
It is under the Volstead Act and every prohibition and sumptuary law since then.
But the entire thought process behind seizing the property is that it is ill-gotten gains earned through commission of crimes. If it's not even property that the accused owns, by what strain of logic could it be sourced from the proceeds of a crime?
There's simply no way to explain the government's need to seize so many houses and cars so tangentially related to the drug trade other than simple naked greed.
See George Waffen Bush executive Order 13198, 29JAN2001: Agency Responsibilities With Respect to Faith-Based and Community Initiatives. This unleashing of zealots with lethal force ramped up util so many homes were forfeited that mortgage-backed derivatives markets collapsed in 2007-8 and took down the entire economy. Sumptuary Republicans call this the "Normal Business Cycle."
What a fucking troll.
Or - better - the government could stop stealing from people.
Prediction: SC rules 7-2 or 8-1 in favour of Culley, Alito dissenting, a plurality holding to a much more stringent standard for forfeiture delay, a couple concurring but giving the (state) government more leeway but still less than at present, and possibly Thomas dissents though he has often advocated against forfeiture, arguing that while he personally doesn't approve of it, it's for the legislature to change things, not the courts. I hope to be proven wrong, by a 9-0 for Culley.
So we already know what happens when State's make it easier to get the property back (by say requiring a faster hearing). They make the process more expensive. OR for vehicles, they set a minimum fee to get it back, plus an inflated tow charge, and daily storage fees. So you can get car back in 10days, but its going to cost $2000 in administrative fees. If you can't afford that, it will go up $50 per day every day until you do.
It would be nice if the USSC in one of these cases would point out that CAF is unconstitutional and immoral.
Jump back! Hizonner Gorbasuch actually EXPRESSED concern? Well! I guess now we can all kiss faith-based asset-forfeiture looting and armed robbery goodbye and good riddance forever.
Man, Howard stern is looking rough these days.