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Donald Trump

Ideological Screening

Plus: IDF releases footage from Hamas' evil rampage, cancel culture in Los Angeles, Iceland's ladies go on strike, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 10.24.2023 9:45 AM

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Trump says no more America-haters: "I will implement strong ideological screening of all immigrants," said former President Donald Trump at a Derry, New Hampshire, campaign rally yesterday. "If you hate America, if you want to abolish Israel, if you don't like our religion—which a lot of them don't—if you sympathize with the jihadists, then we don't want you in our country and you are not getting in."

This is a strange caricature of the immigrants coming here. Do we have evidence that America-hating jihadist-sympathizers are trying to get into the country en masse? To which ideologies should immigrants subscribe? What exactly is "our" religion?

Three-quarters of total immigrants are here legally, and 45 percent are naturalized citizens. More than half of immigrants are proficient in English. About one-quarter of adult Hispanic immigrants to the U.S. have already earned bachelor's degrees. Per 2013 Pew data, "Christians remain by far the largest religious group among legal U.S. immigrants…over the past two decades, the U.S. has admitted an estimated 12.7 million Christian immigrants."

Though it's difficult to get a full sense of what percentage are here illegally, most agree that today's number is a bit below the 2007 peak of 12.2 million, probably somewhere between 10 and 12 million. Per Pew's 2013 data on illegal immigrants, about 83 percent are Christian.

None of this is to say that only Christian, English-speaking immigrants should be let in. But it is to say that we currently attract an awful lot of Christian, English-speaking, semi-educated immigrants and that at least some folks with sympathies for Hamas are homegrown.

As for jihadists, sure, it only takes one being let into the country to create a problem. But do we have any evidence that our current system is allowing jihadists to enter? New America's count indicates that, over the last 22 years, 107 people have been killed by jihadists within the United States. Each of those deaths is tragic and each terrorist event is scary—take the 2019 shooting at Naval Air Station Pensacola, where three people were killed by an Al Qaeda–affiliated gunman—but it's not clear to me that Trump's "ideological screening" would fix that very limited problem.

Beware campaign-trail immigration applause lines. They're pretty much all terrible.

Hamas' brutality comes into fuller view: Amid swirling reports and conspiracy theories that journalists and the Israeli military were lying about, for example, Hamas beheading some of its October 7 victims, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) showed body cam, traffic camera, and CCTV footage to 200 foreign journalists yesterday, corroborating many of the most gruesome accounts.

"I killed 10 Jews with my bare hands," says one Hamas terrorist to someone on the phone, per one of the recordings. Multiple Israeli victims appear to have been beheaded and burned alive. Video shows small children being shot. One victim was reportedly beheaded by a Hamas terrorist with a shovel. IDF officials told journalists yesterday that they have evidence of rape, but that they are not yet releasing it.

"When we say Hamas is ISIS, it's not a branding effort," said IDF spokesman Daniel Hagari. "Why does a person take a GoPro [to such an attack]? Because he's proud of what he does."

Meanwhile in Gaza: Overnight, Israeli strikes on Gaza heated up. Gaza's health ministry reports that 704 people were killed in attacks last night, including in the southern areas that the IDF had told northern Gazans to flee to. Israel has been criticized by international aid organizations for not allowing fuel into Gaza, which is needed to power generators to keep hospitals running (12 of the 32 total hospitals are currently out of service), but Israel and Egypt have disagreed for more than a week now about proper screening measures for aid shipments going across Egypt's Rafah border crossing to ensure weapons aren't being secretly passed via aid shipments to Hamas, and that the terrorist group won't seize the fuel to use it toward its own ends. Trucks carrying food, water, and medical supplies have passed through the border, but humanitarian groups say they're struggling to distribute supplies.

Administrators at Al Shifa hospital say no help has arrived from the aid convoys yet. Check out CNN's reporting on the horrific cascading effects that will come from hospitals in the region running out of fuel—including doctors no longer being able to keep babies in neonatal units alive.


Scenes from New York:

A packed house last night for the Reason Speakeasy, where Nick Gillespie interviewed Greg Lukianoff and Rikki Schlott about their new book, The Canceling of the American Mind.

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A few delinquents (me, Matt Welch) sat in the back, drank Beaujolais, and, um, took in the sights.

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QUICK HITS

  • Why did fertility decline in France during the 18th century?
  • Explainer on the Houthi militants in Yemen.
  • Today in Iceland, thousands of women (including the prime minister) are on strike (called kvennafrí) to protest the purported gender pay gap. "Women and non-binary people have been urged to refuse paid and unpaid work on Tuesday, including household chores," reports the BBC. (Pretty sure that in my household, a failure to do all my "unpaid work" on one day would simply mean…playing catch-up the next day. Hard to see how that's some huge win.) But here's the best part: "Iceland has been ranked the best country in the world for gender equality by the World Economic Forum (WEF) for 14 years in a row."
  • Pray for Justin Amash and his family in Gaza:

In this video, provided to me by a relative on site, you can see the destruction at Saint Porphyrius Orthodox Church in Gaza. The ancient sanctuary remains standing, but the church annex, which includes offices and meeting spaces for the Christian community, collapsed from an… pic.twitter.com/jJfRD29uJK

— Justin Amash (@justinamash) October 23, 2023

  • Rep. J.D. Vance (R–Ohio) calls for aid to Israel and Ukraine to be split up.
  • "General Li [Shangfu] is the second Chinese minister to be purged this year without explanation and under a cloud of suspicion; the foreign minister, Qin Gang, was dismissed in July," reports The New York Times on the abrupt ousting of Xi Jinping's defense minister.
  • Facts:

there is no way to talk about "limiting the spread of misinformation" without sounding like a Leninist

— roon (@tszzl) October 24, 2023

  • This feels like a very L.A. rendition of Israel-Hamas cancel culture, mostly because nobody has been very specific about anything, and because this top agent at Creative Artists Agency will keep her job, just step down as co-head of the motion picture department. (Also very L.A. to say, after you've been punished by your bosses for speech, that "dialogue is healing." Is it really?)
  • This:

The general narcissism of the American far left can be very annoying and counterproductive. No, racial minorities in America in 2023 are not oppressed in any way shape or form similar to stateless Palestinians in Gaza or the West Bank. The comparisons are insane.

— Lee Fang (@lhfang) October 20, 2023

  • A beautiful photo essay on what it feels like to come of age in Ukraine amid the constant horrors of war.

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    I will implement strong ideological screening of all immigrants...

    Will that screening take place in the middle of the Rio Grande?

    1. Nardz   2 years ago

      https://twitter.com/feelsdesperate/status/1716796923439415653?t=hsQ5KVTY2JM9zQOhb9kvpg&s=19

      Civil libertarians don’t have a developed program to address what’s wrong in the institutions.

      They can identify illiberalism, FIRE can take people to court, but these people aren’t institutionalists and they have no political program beyond hoping things get better.

      People in the institutions are behaving sociopathically because of rational incentives that are meaningful intra-institutionally.

      Why should the illiberal care if those outside the institutions don’t like their behavior? The illiberal lack no confidence that they are…
      …in the right and they’re being rewarded for their behavior. Why would they care that you don’t like the externalities?

      Enough with the paeans to free speech and the case study vignettes of institutional insanity. We’ve heard it before.

      You guys don’t like Rufo. Well,…
      ..what’s the political plan then?

      If these people aren’t able to articulate one and are limited to mitigating some of the downstream consequences of institutional derangement they should acknowledge their inadequacy, move to the side, and stop acting like they ‘have a solution.’

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

        That account is great at pointing out the total social schizophrenia of the western left-liberal consensus.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

          This one was another beaut, that succinctly describes how the progressive stack works:

          Coddled affluent professional
          @feelsdesperate
          You’re guilty of original sin.
          You can attain some level of redemption through allyship.
          However if you are a cis white ally you will still be the lowest caste.
          That’s where transing comes in.
          Allyship first, and then climb the hierarchy through self-mortification.
          7:18 AM · May 12, 2023

          1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

            Wow, that's quite apt.

          2. Wally   2 years ago

            There really needs to be like button. That is perfect.

      2. Bill Dalasio   2 years ago

        The overall analysis is pretty much right, with one caveat - it ignores the option of gutting the institutions. If the institutions are eliminated, their incentives become a historical footnote. Their power is broken. And I'd counter that Rufo's solution ultimately leaves that power in place and hopes the right Top Men can rule over the institutions to impose their will indefinitely. Of course, I'll concede that most of Rufo's more vociferous libertarian critics start with a lot of handwaving when you bring up the possibility of eliminating those institutions.

    2. Unable2Reason   2 years ago

      If they float, " They're a witch!"

  2. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Do we have evidence that America-hating jihadist-sympathizers are trying to get into the country en masse?

    We have to apply the current thing to our campaign promises, and Gaza is the current thing.

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

      Don't worry Liz quoted the impeach able source of new America! I'm sure they are on the up and up, just like citing act blue

    2. Minadin   2 years ago

      "Do we have evidence that America-hating jihadist-sympathizers are trying to get into the country en masse?"

      Yes? More in the past year than the previous 6 combined. And those are just the ones who were caught.

      https://notthebee.com/article/169-people-on-the-fbis-terror-watch-list-have-been-stopped-at-the-southern-border-over-the-past-year-i-wonder-how-many-have-slipped-past-without-us-noticing

      I mean, your entire premise here is that fully 1 in 4 'migrants' is illegal, and we're supposed to react that the situation is totally normal and OK?

      1. Jgalt1975   2 years ago

        That would be the "terror watch list" that contained such fearsome threats as Cat Stevens/Yusuf Islam and also had a massive number of names that are basically the Arabic equivalent of "John Smith" such that literally thousands of people worldwide have those identical names and get flagged by systems using the list?

        1. VULGAR MADMAN   2 years ago

          “Hi I’m Mohammad, and this is my brother Mohammad, and this is my other brother Mohammad.”

    3. Cyto   2 years ago

      Or...

      One could note that Europe is currently dealing with significant pro-hamas civil unrest from Palestinian and Arab immigrants....

      And simultaneously note the loud calls for the US to accept large numbers of refugees from Gaza.

      1. Nardz   2 years ago

        https://twitter.com/amuse/status/1716436621753520452?t=LtP1HeqcwwntKQmw-JZu7g&s=19

        SOURCE: Hamas supporters blocked a public road and attacked an elderly Jewish driver in the no-go zone called Minneapolis.

        [Link]

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago

          Not en masse!

    4. Nardz   2 years ago

      https://twitter.com/FrankDeScushin/status/1716791891428036801?t=WolAWu2TVQdzE16Pz8jKKA&s=19

      Whites warning of the conflict multiculturalism would create were called racist, but now that the conflict is directed at Jews we’re told “the debate over immigration is about to change.”

      Western society changed because other people were prioritized over the Whites who built it.

      [Link]

      1. Beezard   2 years ago (edited)

        Ok, but it is about to change right? If that’s only happening because the lunatic left has alienated our racial superiors, fine. It is about to change, right? And the globo-commie thing? We’re going to back way off the globo-commie thing? Because I’m interested in results. Not my place on the victimhood ladder.

  3. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/harris-countys-2022-primary-election-audit-highlights-disparities-between

    In 2020, statewide election issues forced the Secretary of State to conduct an audit that found Harris County had "very serious issues in the handling of electronic media." One of the issues was that at least 14 mobile ballot boxes did not have proper chain of custody records for 184,999 ballots.

    1. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

      Impossible. The freest and fairest election in human history. Only 2000, 2004 and 2016 were rigged.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Cleanest election ever. If you never look for dirt you never find dirt.

        1. SRG2   2 years ago

          What whiny bitches. You think that Trump. Giuliani, etc didn't look for evidence? Didn't Giuliani say, that the election was stolen but they just can't find evidence? Didn't the GOP hire firms to audit in three places (at least) and they found nothing?

          Even Trump's own amicus brief to the Supreme Court in the Texas case provided no evidence - are we supposed to believe they didn't look for any?

          You lot as in full-blown conspiracy mode. You "know" that the evidence is out there and therefore the failure to find it is due either to a cover-up or the failure to look for it.

          Just fuck off and shoot up a pizza parlour, why don't you?

          1. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

            You seem fixated on defending the legitimacy of the 2020 election.

            1. SRG2   2 years ago

              You seem fixated on defending the legitimacy of the 2020 election.

              Alternatively your fellows are fixated on its illegitimacy. I'm not the one who keeps bringing the election up, like the cracker Catos do.

              Or do you never notice when it's questioned?

              Further, your non-responsive response suggests you have no actual argument against the points I presented. But faith is like that.

              1. Minadin   2 years ago

                " . . . the cracker Catos . . ."

                'scusi?

                1. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

                  "like the cracker Catos do"

                  The Shrike slips out whenever he loses his temper.

                  1. Dillinger   2 years ago

                    I'm not Shrike!

                    1. SRG2   2 years ago

                      And indeed I'm not, as anyone not a halfwit far-right cunt would realise fairly quickly.

                  2. SRG2   2 years ago (edited)

                    I use “cracker” not infrequently – far more than the actual shrike I. I think it was JesseAz who claimed that my use of Trumpsucker indicated that I was shrike even though he’d never used the term. Birds of a feather.

                    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      Sure shrike.

                    2. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

                      Why "cracker"? Are you black? Also, Shrike used Trumpsucker constantly.

                2. SRG2   2 years ago

                  You recall Cato's "Carthago delenda est" - every speech ended like that. The crackers here are like that wrt the 2020 election, though not as eloquently as Cato.

                  1. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

                    Democrats delenda est.

                    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                      Factio Democratica delenda est.

                  2. VULGAR MADMAN   2 years ago

                    Ok, shrike.

              2. Unable2Reason   2 years ago

                That's the beauty of mail-in ballots - no chain of custody. Nobody on earth can prove who was on the other end of the mail-in ballot.

                Also, what about the illegal changes to voting laws made in the middle of the election? Courts Squash Democrats’ ‘Most Secure Election’ Lie: Swing States Didn’t Follow Their Own Laws In 2020

                The 2020 election was full of chaos and irregularities. States across the country changed election policies and procedures last minute. Due to the pandemic, election officials claimed these emergency actions and deviations from election laws were necessary.

                In 2020, the Wisconsin Elections Commission authorized “municipal clerks and local elections officials to establish ballot drop boxes” and said that people acting on behalf of the voter could deliver his or her ballot to these drop boxes.

                Facebook co-founder Mark Zuckerberg gave millions of dollars to election offices to change election procedures and fuel vote-by-mail efforts. The Capital Research Center uncovered that the Center for Technology and Civic Life, the non-profit Zuckerberg funneled his money through, gave Wisconsin election offices at least $6.7 million in 2020.

                Much of this $6.7 million was used to set up drop boxes, which fueled ballot harvesting. Ballot harvesting refers to a person returning ballots that are not their own. For example, you go to a drop box and return your ballot, your husband’s, and your two neighbors’.

                These changes expanding drop boxes and allowing ballot harvesting drew much ire and complaints in 2020. President Trump and many others criticized drop boxes as being less secure than in-person voting...

                The court ruled that the Wisconsin Elections Commission does not have the power to enact and change election laws. This power belongs to the state legislature.

                Under Wisconsin law, drop boxes are illegal. The law requires absentee ballots to be returned by mail, or the voter must personally deliver them to the municipal clerk. This ruling upheld the rule of law in elections: Election laws cannot be suspended before an election. That leads to chaos and distrust in results.

                This is not the first state to have violated its own laws in the 2020 election.

                1. R Mac   2 years ago (edited)

                  And Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia and Arizona. But I’m sure all the most blatant illegal election changes being done by democrats in swing states with significant concentrations of blues urban areas that all went Biden by tiny margins after midnight is just a coincidence.

                  1. DesigNate   2 years ago

                    Texas did to with “drive through polling”.

                    1. R Mac   2 years ago

                      I was about to make a joke about voting by text but I don’t want to go to jail.

                    2. VULGAR MADMAN   2 years ago

                      “Drive through polling “

                      Hell yeah

              3. DesigNate   2 years ago

                Gee, why would anyone worry about the legitimacy of Dear Leaders election? It’s not like he’s openly acknowledged he doesn’t have the constitutional authority to do something and then goes and does it anyways.

          2. Nobartium   2 years ago

            It the job of government to prove it isn't lying. The state has a vested interest in its own continuous existence, after all.

          3. JesseAz   2 years ago

            They refers to states and judges. They declined to investigate even known violations of laws. Sorry shrike. You're on the wrong side

            Jay walking happens daily. States don't cite or investigate. Your inference is jaywalking never happens.

            His team found over 30k people who moved prior to the election using change of address forms submitted to USPS yet voted in their prior districts. Ga declined to investigate. These were violations of Ga law. It doesn't mean they didn't break the law. That is one example.

  4. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    1-In-4 ISIS Brides Returned To Sweden Now Work In Schools; Shocking New Report Reveals
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/1-4-isis-brides-returned-sweden-now-work-schools-shocking-new-report-reveals

    More than a quarter of all ISIS brides returned to Sweden from the Al-Hol camp in Syria are now working with young children in the Swedish education sector, an investigation by the Expressen newspaper has revealed.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      But we have no evidence that America-hating jihadist-sympathizers are trying to get into the country en masse.

  5. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    London police shut down billboards showing children held by Hamas
    “Who are the police protecting here,” the Campaign Against Antisemitism wrote. “Those standing up to terrorists, or those who sympathize with them?”
    https://www.jns.org/london-police-shut-down-billboards-showing-children-held-by-hamas/

    1. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

      “Who are the London police protecting here, those standing up to terrorists, or those who sympathize with them?”

      What an odd question to ask about the city run by Sadiq Khan.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

        Not en masse. What don’t you get?

    2. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

      We often shield children who have been victims of crime from public exposure. Their names get censored in police reports or else they're given aliases.

      This sort of thing might be different, but I find it similar enough that it really should not be an outrage.

      1. R Mac   2 years ago

        There’s a difference between the state exposing child victims and censoring others from doing so. You might find it in poor taste, that doesn’t negate other’s free speech.

      2. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

        As seen on the back of milk cartons, amber alerts, news…

        Some like Jazz Jennings even get reality shows.

        1. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

          Circulating a picture of a missing child people you want people to look for is clearly substantially different from showing a picture of a child who is presently a hostage in a foreign state.

          1. R Mac   2 years ago

            How is it substantially different from the legal perspective of police censoring it? Who gets to decide?

            Do you think it’s impossible that any of the children taken hostage in Israel can’t be trafficked to anywhere else in the world?

            1. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

              So your theory is that Hamas is engaged in a world-wide slave trafficking ring while they're under siege by Israel? People are struggling to get food and medicine into the gaza strip but human cargo is being shipped out?

              Show me evidence that this sort of thing is happening. It seems like Hamas is much more likely to execute these hostages than put them into some illegal human trafficking ring. Is there any evidence that Hamas has ever sold people overseas before? I don't know if I've heard about such a thing.

              1. Dillinger   2 years ago

                >>human cargo is being shipped out?

                sending full trucks in and empty trucks out is counterproductive

              2. R Mac   2 years ago

                My theory is that police shouldn’t censor billboards because they (and you, apparently) don’t agree with the people that put up the billboard.

                My secondary point is you can’t be certain that there is no usefulness to the billboards.

          2. JesseAz   2 years ago

            Tell me how a kid being kissing, generally held by someone, is different than a hostage. And such a difference that it can be censored by the state. To me it is a distinction without a difference.

            1. JesseAz   2 years ago

              Damn. Shrike got into my auto correct. Kid being kidnapped*

    3. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

      They are protecting London, and London people. They should know the animals that are being let in

      1. Nardz   2 years ago

        I think it's really weird that we are putting up pictures of foreigners held hostage in foreign lands, as part of a foreign conflict between two foreign peoples, in the US and England...

        1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

          The palisitinians are bringing their blood feud here.

        2. JesseAz   2 years ago

          Less weird than storming the Capitol building to support the terrorists.

          I'm not one to want to censor information. Even if used to appeal to emotion.

          1. Nardz   2 years ago

            Both are weird, yes.
            People pushing both sides of the foreign conflict between foreign peoples in foreign lands have clearly identified their priorities as being not American or Americans.

            1. JesseAz   2 years ago

              Promoting the truth of foreign terrorist actions isnt getting involved. It is eliciting the truth and harm. The US is involved as Congress debates funding. It isnt weird to discuss foreign atrocities just because they are foreign.

              1. Nardz   2 years ago

                Yes, it's weird to plaster the faces of foreigners up in western nations as a PR campaign to elicit resources for a conflict that has nothing to do with us.

  6. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    https://www.newyorker.com/news/dispatch/the-anguished-fallout-from-a-pro-palestinian-letter-at-harvard

    I asked whether they understood why so many people had been shocked and hurt by the letter’s failure to express any sympathy for the Israeli men, women, and children who had been murdered barely a day before its release. But they stubbornly resisted this line of thinking. “Our statement was not intended to do that,” Nadia said, but, rather, to address the politics of the region and “the root of the violence.” Anyone who was scandalized by the idea of Israel’s culpability struck her as “deeply misinformed.”

    The women had drafted an op-ed describing the fallout of the previous week. In it, they’d described classmates who’d once waved hello in the hallways and were now avoiding eye contact, and others who’d messaged them privately apologizing for the public retractions that they were about to publish on behalf of their groups. The war had pitted Harvard students’ careerism against their idealism, and in many cases the careerism had won.

    “They dropped like flies,” Yasmeen said.

    “ ‘I deeply disagree and deeply regret . . .’ ” Nadia said, imitating the apologies of students who rescinded their support. But the women understood their peers’ instinct toward self-preservation. They wanted the op-ed to show how doxing is designed to “tear movements apart,” Yasmeen said, “so that they look taboo from the outside and everyone is afraid of joining in.”

    In the end, they’d decided against publishing the op-ed or identifying themselves publicly. As of this Wednesday, Accuracy in Media had exposed students further by setting up Web sites under their names; the truck returned to campus, and student protesters surrounded it, trying to block the displayed faces with their own signage. “Everyone we have organized with is scared and doesn’t want another piece that will give more attention to naming and shaming,” Yara said. Yasmeen had a job lined up after graduation, and her boyfriend had warned her not to risk jeopardizing it. For some students, one lesson of the previous week was that their position in an élite institution didn’t offer the protection they imagined it would. Instead, it had made them targets. Still, the women spoke hopefully about the potential of collective action to help bring justice to Palestinians. “If people would band together, it would take the power out,” Yara said. “Because you can’t fire seven hundred Harvard students. It would be a scandal. That’s a privilege we have.”

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Chicks. Go figure.

    2. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

      None of them will ever work in my company, where I am the hiring and firing authority.

      Canary Mission is very helpful to identify anti-semites in academia.

      1. Nardz   2 years ago

        Would anti-American and anti-white ideology have disqualified someone from employment by you previously? Would you have sought out information to discover it?

        1. Commenter_XY   2 years ago (edited)

          Nobody flagged by Canary Mission has ever joined my org unit. Or even made it to the interview stage. I check myself, Nardz.

    3. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

      Beautiful highlight.

      Also: “Our statement was not intended to do that,” Nadia said, but, rather, to address the politics of the region and “the root of the violence.”

      This same crowd will indignantly inform you that "intent doesn't matter" if you microagress against someone in a completely unpredictable manner based on regular social norms, if you say that you hadn't intended to cause offense.

      I might need to go to the hospital for this schadenfreude overdose.

    4. BYODB   2 years ago

      Look, a good number of them probably are unrepentant antisemites that probably don't even realize they are antisemites. Some of them are proud of their antisemitism and are well aware of it. Most of them are probably just useful idiots who are basically children with no opinions of their own.

      The thing that is notable is that they are attending one of the top schools in America and none of their coursework managed to disillusion them about their antisemitism.

      That calls into question how useful a liberal arts education is, writ large, given that none of their classes exposed them to anything that would have caused them to question this world view. That's a Harvard problem, for sure, since this is literally one of the selling points for a liberal arts education. That it failed to expand their worldview or critical thinking skills is an outright indictment of a Harvard education.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

        That’s a Harvard problem, for sure, since this is literally one of the selling points for a liberal arts education. That it failed to expand their worldview or critical thinking skills is an outright indictment of a Harvard education.

        True, but as we've discussed, this is a problem within academia writ large, as a seminary for liberation marxism as a theological construct. It's not just confined to the Ivies.

        1. BYODB   2 years ago

          Yes, and I note as much above. The Ivy league institutions are simply ahead of the curve on this stuff.

          It's probably no coincidence that the PR hack that sank bud light graduated from...Harvard.

          At this point, you'd have to be a damn fool to hire a Harvard graduate. They will sink your business. I think the market is actually figuring that one out now.

      2. Nardz   2 years ago

        They're not so much antisemitic as they are anti-white. Jews are pretending it's just the former when it's really a manifestation of the latter and secular jews getting hoisted by their own petard

        1. BYODB   2 years ago

          Oh, they can be both. Never underestimate both.

          Their overt hostility and desire to see the Jewish population expunged from this earth is a higher magnitude than their general disdain for light skinned individuals from all over the planet.

          1. Nardz   2 years ago (edited)

            It’s reversed based on location. Yes, Muslims and Islamists hate jews more than whites.
            But Muslims and Islamists aren’t the driving force in America (its a bit more 50/50 in Europe)- globalist Marxists are.
            And globalist Marxists hate whitey, that is the traditional normal American non-elite person, above all else. Indeed, this ideology was largely established by Jews. Thus in our case, leftist antisemitism is very much a subset of anti-white hate.
            The reason there’s controversy now is being the Jews who promoted anti white hate are finding out that the monster they created considers Jews white as well.

            1. Nardz   2 years ago

              For decades Jews enjoyed a spot on the intersectional hierarchy, and pushed white hate to maintain that spot.
              But there was never an issue that really tested their position before.
              Now, as other intersectional classes have acquired more power, Jews are finding they're not special anymore- they're just white folk.

              1. Truthfulness   2 years ago (edited)

                Naw, the liberal left are just mad that Jews worked for success in their lives and want them assimilated to their woke culture. It’s a very antisemitic ideology they follow.

  7. sarcasmic   2 years ago

    This is a strange caricature of the immigrants coming here.

    Immigration is like global warming. It can be blamed for just about anything.

    1. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

      That will be a very apt comparison when tens of thousands of degrees cross the border each day.

      1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

        Crime? Blame immigrants. Unemployment? Blame immigrants. Welfare? Blame immigrants.

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago

          This is a retarded bald assertion no matter how many times you use it. Your attempt to hyperbolic the counter arguments in order to dismiss all arguments is noted.

          Typical.

          1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

            There are legitimate concerns about illegal immigration. I'm not disputing that. What I am dismissing is Trump's hyperbolic scapegoating of immigrants, and your latching onto it like a pitbull on another dog's neck.

            1. JesseAz   2 years ago

              This is like the dems claiming Trump called all immigrants animals and not just those in cartels. It is a lie if you pay even 1% of his comments regarding immigration. He has actually advocated for work permits and reforms to the visa systems as well. But youre unhinged hare focuses on small snippets to try to garner an argument.

              And it usnt about Trump. Dozens of times you have claimed the only reason to be against open borders is racism. Despite being given links to factual sources of negative externalities.

              Youre not fooling anyone dummy.

              1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                But youre unhinged hare focuses on small snippets to try to garner an argument.

                Like you bookmarking hundreds of my posts so you can bring them up out of context?

                Dozens of times you have claimed the only reason to be against open borders is racism.

                Only? No. But it is a factor, like it or not.

                Despite being given links to factual sources of negative externalities.

                I know there are negative externalities. I never said there weren't. That's you making stuff up as usual. There are also positives, all of which you deny.

                1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                  Are you still claiming a fully independent reposted word for word citation of you is out of context? Lol. I literally posted both the question and response retard.

                  You really are an idiot aren't you.

        2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

          Hey, talk to the recently converted build-the-wall Democrats who literally offered free healthcare and housing to anyone who appeared on this side of the social construct.

    2. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Except people here have given you actual evidence of costs and negative externalities. You just choose to ignore them because you bought a taco from a food truck once. Again, even Maines social services are bankrupt due to the issue. As someone who was once homeless you think you'd care about the homeless not helped as money gets funneled elsewhere. But no. You have a bumper sticker so you stick to it.

      1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

        One of these days you'll reply with a comment directed at what I said, instead of me as a person. Then i will respond to the content of your post. Until then please fuck off.

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago

          Your comment had no facts involved. Your comment was a strawman. I pointed put the fallacy of your comment as people have shown you evidence of costs that you refuse to acknowledge.

          Your comment was not based on facts, evidence, or argument but a bald assertion. Do you think your comment was meaningful?

          I showed your comment to be a lie because the primary arguments against illegal immigration are factual, not made up.

          You really are an idiot sarc.

          1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

            Trump, like many politicians before him, is using immigrants as a scapegoat. It's obvious to anyone who doesn't reflexively defend everything he says and does, which is why you can't see it.

            1. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

              Back up your assertion. Because it is entirely bald.

              I again have literally given you factual links to costs and negative outcomes. I’ve even given you links to libertarian discussions against open borders. You’ve just chosen to remain ignorant and not read them.

              And again I've criticized trump more than you have Biden. But I don't reflexively attack him where I agree. Youre the one who even attempts to say anything he did that was tangent to libertarianism was by accident which is proof of your retarded bias.

              1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                "I will implement strong ideological screening of all immigrants," said former President Donald Trump at a Derry, New Hampshire, campaign rally yesterday. "If you hate America, if you want to abolish Israel, if you don't like our religion—which a lot of them don't—if you sympathize with the jihadists, then we don't want you in our country and you are not getting in."

                Immigrants bad. Immigrants terrorists. Immigrants scapegoat. Hurr durr.

                1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                  And you go and prove my assertion is correct lol. Small snippets.

              2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                When are you going to admit to the benefits associated with immigration?

                1. Nobartium   2 years ago

                  Why?

                  Exclusion on it's own is sufficient reason to not permit migrants.

                2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

                  You mean like more child molesters in the country?

                3. DesigNate   2 years ago

                  Please point out where anyone here has said there is NO benefit.

                  1. R Mac   2 years ago

                    Bullshit post including the word “tribe” or “team” in 5,4,3…

              3. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                I’ve even given you links to libertarian discussions against open borders.

                I've given you links to studies from Borjas himself (the immigrant-skeptic Harvard economist) that demonstrate that immigrants, even by his own estimation, aren't the economic demons that you make them out to be. But you ignore them.

                1. R Mac   2 years ago

                  Never seen them referred to as “economic demons”. I’m sure you have examples?

                  1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

                    I see that Chemleft is back!

                    Enh, another set of grey boxes to ignore.

                    1. Dillinger   2 years ago

                      angrier and less cogent than ever ... yay?

                  2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                    I never said Jesse did call them "economic demons".
                    But here you are right on cue to nitpick some pedantic point instead of responding to the substance of the comment. Because it's more fun to just accuse me of lying instead of discussing the issue of immigration, isn't it?

                    1. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

                      "pedantic point"

                      You made that point the defining feature of your attack. Not R Mac.

                      "that demonstrate that immigrants, even by his own estimation, aren’t the economic demons that you make them out to be."

                    2. R Mac   2 years ago

                      Using the word “demon” as a descriptor of someone else’s position is pedantic? Yeah, demon is a pretty neutral word.

                      chemjeff radical individualist 29 mins ago
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                      I never said Jesse did call them “economic demons”.

                      Also Lying Jeffy: “aren’t the economic demons that you make them out to be.”

                      Never change Lying Jeffy.

                    3. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                      I never said Jesse did call them “economic demons”.

                      No, Jeffy, but you did. Care to explain it and why?

                    4. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                      Oh now it's three people who want to pile on. Fuck you all, I made my meaning clear. You and your team constantly makes immigrants out to be economic villains - stealing jobs and mooching off welfare and otherwise rarely if ever acknowledging the economic benefits of immigration. You all demand that I acknowledge the costs of immigration, when are you going to acknowledge the benefits of immigration?

                      Or, you can just try to score some cheap point by squabbling about my use of the word 'demon'. Which is a sideshow and a distraction because you cannot address the substance of the argument, only attack me the person.

                    5. R Mac   2 years ago

                      Haha, Lying Jeffy got caught lying now runs away.

                    6. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                      You and your team constantly makes immigrants out to be economic villains...

                      Blah, blah, blah, totally wrong, dipshit. The complaint is about illegal immigration, you know, crossing the border without applying for asylum or immigration. No one here has ever had a problem with legal immigration. It's assholes like yourself, Jeffy, who conflate the two.

                    7. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                      1. I didn't lie 2. You manufacture claims of lies to avoid discussing issues and instead attacking personally. That is your schtick.

                    8. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                      The complaint is about illegal immigration, you know, crossing the border without applying for asylum or immigration.

                      This is complete bullshit. Routinely your tribe denigrates even legal immigrants and legal permanent residents and people claiming asylum via the legal process.

                      Remember all those immigrants shipped to Martha's Vineyard that you all cheered and celebrated? They all LEGALLY APPLIED FOR ASYLUM. How many times did your tribe claim that they were illegal immigrants and they should just be deported?

                      Trump and his friends like Tom Cotton and Stephen Miller tried to reduce LEGAL immigration.

                      this is not 2015, you cannot gaslight us all into thinking that you all really are only concerned about illegal immigration. that was the 'bailey' for your motte and bailey argument to try to reduce ALL immigration.

                      No one here has ever had a problem with legal immigration.

                      "I will implement strong ideological screening of all immigrants," said former President Donald Trump at a Derry, New Hampshire, campaign rally yesterday. "If you hate America, if you want to abolish Israel, if you don't like our religion—which a lot of them don't—if you sympathize with the jihadists, then we don't want you in our country and you are not getting in."

                      Huh. Sounds like this guy has a problem with immigrants who apply legally but who don't meet his ideological tests.

                    9. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

                      "Oh now it’s three people who want to pile on. Fuck you all"

                      You're just like sarcasmic. You decide to play the asshole troll and then get all upset when people start punching back.

                      What a joke.

                    10. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                      How about this guy?

                      "Except people here have given you actual evidence of costs and negative externalities."

                      The "costs and negative externalities" that he is referring to is to *IMMIGRATION*, not just illegal immigration.

                      https://news.gallup.com/poll/508520/americans-value-immigration-concerns.aspx

                      Currently, 73% of Republicans, matching the prior high from 1995, want immigration decreased, while 10% want it increased,

                      Democrats have since become solidly positive (62% now say they make the economy better versus 17% worse), while Republicans have gone in the other direction (14% better and 64% worse).

                      Your team is hostile to ALL immigration.

                    11. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                      Oh look, it's ML the shitposting authoritarian asshole. Fuck off.

                    12. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                      Damn, Jeffy, put down the crack pipe before you post like an idiot.

                    13. R Mac   2 years ago

                      It sure was nice when Lying Jeffy wasn’t here being a total fucking collectivist with his constant “your tribe” accusations.

                      Also, Lying Jeffy, you did clearly lie. Again:

                      chemjeff radical individualist 29 mins ago
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                      I never said Jesse did call them “economic demons”.

                      Also Lying Jeffy: “aren’t the economic demons that you make them out to be.”

                2. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

                  Hi, ChemJeff! The bears in trunks kept just fine in your absence and even had some harmless fun funning away from California like all conscious, self-respecting living things.
                  🙂

                  1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                    Lol.

            2. JesseNM   2 years ago

              sarcasmic, that is not true. Trump is not using immigrants as scapegoats. As my brother has said, Trump, like all American patriots everywhere, is just concerned about the country because he loves this country. He does not want this country destroyed by immigrants who don't share real American values like only voting for Republicans. He wants to keep out the leftists and future Democrats who will never be true American patriots like ourselves, and if you disagree it is because you aren't as patriotic as my brother and I.

              1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

                Poor sarc.

              2. Super Scary   2 years ago

                Someone stole Mike Parsons' schtick? Lame.

              3. JesseAz   2 years ago

                Pour sarc.

  8. JesseAz   2 years ago

    For the second election cycle in a row the Michigan SoS is struck down for illegal election changes. This time based on oversight and petitions of elections.

    https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/michigan-sos-election-challenger-restrictions-struck-down-adding-list

    For some odd reason the only politician who has been charged with "tampering" is Trump who sought to use the courts to challenge. All the government officials making illegal election changes remain free and happy.

  9. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Jewish middle schoolers forced to sign a gag order to not expose antisemitic attacks and statements made to them in school.

    https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1716494430935351388

    1. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

      It's amazing how fast we went from "Jews are an untouchable protected group"; to open violence against Jews, including Jewish children.

      1. Mickey Rat   2 years ago (edited)

        Anti-bullying policy does not apply to demographics higher on the victim totem pole.

      2. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

        Once again we see that Kanye was a trend setter

      3. Nardz   2 years ago

        Jews are reaping the fruits of the ideology leftist Jews pushed, and discovering that they're white.

      4. R Mac   2 years ago

        Secular Jews played a nasty game where they thought they could remain distinct from other “white people” while pushing an oppressor vs, oppressed narrative. Turns out the useful idiots don’t see that distinction.

    2. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

      Yeah, but also, fuck the ADL and I will continue my stance of not trusting them even slightly. Their interest is only about narrative and never about truth.

      You can call out the double standard and ask "What if these were black students?" but I will reassert that the alleged statements are not hate speech.

      But also, gagging other students and telling them they can't talk about this is gross censorship because of course it is. If the previous statements are political and not hate speech, then exploration and condemnation of those statements would also clearly be political.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        The school chose one side to gag.

      2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

        Plus, it's pointless to argue that there's a double standard for black students, anyway. The double standard is the point, meant to be applied towards whomever the target of the left's repressive tolerance is at that particular moment.

        Instead of complaining about the double standard, the only way to fight back against marxism/communism in any of its forms is to attack, harrass, resist, and suppress those who practice it until they exit the arena, ignore and reject its appeals for unity ("surely for all our disagreements, there are things we can agree on" and "the things that unite us are greater and more numerous than those that divide us" are a couple of go-to statements), and aggressively prevent its entryism anywhere that it tries to insinuate itself through the unity-criticism-unity dialectic.

        It's not enough for a society to not be marxist in culture and character; it must be foundationally anti-marxist. The only mollification provided by the left should be their exiting and future lack of presence.

      3. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

        Well, obviously fuck the ADL, but they don't seem to be involved in this story yet.

    3. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

      How is that even possibly legal?

      1. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

        FYTW.

        It seems like the American public school system sees itself as more powerful than the legislature. From eminent domain, to gag orders, and all the way to stealing and sex-changing children.

      2. mamabug   2 years ago

        Kind of obvious at least one parent said 'this isn't legal' and promptly released the gag order to social media.

    4. DesigNate   2 years ago

      Dollars to donuts that little fuckers dad has an “I’m with Her” tshirt.

      1. ElvisIsReal   2 years ago

        You have to say "donuts to dollars" these days.

  10. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperinformation.aspx?paperid=102095
    The novel Coronavirus disease or COVID-19 is a new contagious, dangerous, and deadly viral/immunological systemic disorder with predominantly respiratory features caused by human infection with SARS-CoV-2, which is rapidly spreading from person-to-person all around the world as a pandemic. If the COVID-19 pandemic is not controlled, and then eradicated, it will probably cause the extinction of the human race in the coming years or decades! I

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Trust the science!

      1. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

        The facts have changed!

    2. Zeb   2 years ago

      That was 3 years ago, but it's amazing even at that point that anyone still thought eradication was an option.

      1. Jerryskids   2 years ago

        It's scirp (Scientific Research Publishing) where as long as you pay the fee you can get any sort of paper you want published. They're a joke, with zero credibility, like World Weekly News for science.

        1. Zeb   2 years ago

          I thought the writing seemed particularly terrible, even for an academic paper.

  11. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Torturing a white disabled man for 3 days including cuts, burns, and drinking toilet water will get you less time in jail than knocking over a fence at the Capitol.

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2023/10/ringleader-of-black-chicagoans-who-tortured-disabled-white-boy-after-trumps-election-released-from-prison/

    1. damikesc   2 years ago

      Can you not smell the justice?

  12. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Gaza's health ministry reports that 704 people were killed in attacks last night...

    What numbers do Hamas give us, because we all know those are the ones we publish.

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Look. Just believe the Hamas produced numbers this time.

      1. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

        To be fair, I don't any numbers the US provides either. They've all shown how trustworthy they can be.

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

          Agreed. But Hamas tends to go to comical hyperbole. They’ve had the same dead actors in so many photographs as to be laughable at this point.

          Question US numbers. But know Hamas always lies about them.

    2. Jerry B.   2 years ago

      I notice that the Palestinian “dead” are almost always in perfectly clean white shrouds that completely cover their faces and bodies, but never have a trace of blood seeping through them. If you cut a Palestinian, do they not bleed?

  13. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    Do we have evidence that America-hating jihadist-sympathizers are trying to get into the country en masse?

    Yes we do, idiot. Every pro Palestine demonstration with people chanting about gassing the Jews proves this. We've seen them. Don't tell me this isn't happening - Reason Roundup threads are littered with videos of this very thing happening.

    Would you give nukes to a Muslim country? Would you give France to the Muslims? France has 300 nukes. Give them the country and you give them the weapons.

    Congrats, your open borders policy may kick off a Jewish decimation event that rivals Hitlers.

    1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

      But are those immigrant America hating jihadist sympathizers or home grown America hating jihadist sympathizers?

  14. JesseAz   2 years ago

    DoJ also hid Jim Bidens rile in the Americore scandal that paid Joe 200k.

    https://thefederalist.com/2023/10/24/did-biden-appointed-u-s-attorneys-give-jim-bidens-americore-scandal-the-hunter-biden-treatment/

    1. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

      Dude, the memo line of the check clearly said "totally not a bribe", thus proving Biden innocent.

    2. Dillinger   2 years ago

      check-kiting totes okay because Delaware

  15. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

    "But it is to say that we currently attract an awful lot of Christian, English-speaking, semi-educated immigrants and that at least some folks with sympathies for Hamas are homegrown."

    Usually AWFLs and BLM and the good folks who currently attend Harvard and UPenn.

    If Trump wants to deport them, good on him.

  16. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    A few delinquents (me, Matt Welch) sat in the back, drank Beaujolais, and, um, took in the sights.

    OMG

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Sounds pretty gay.

      1. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

        Sitting with Matt Welch will do that.

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago

          More like Matt Feltch.

      2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

        Beaujolais

        No idea what that is, but it sounds like an eleven on the Hipster scale.

        1. Dillinger   2 years ago

          what the party-set drank in the 70s goes great with cocaine.

    2. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

      Mat Welch, and ENB walk into a bar, David Smith ducked

  17. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago (edited)

    Three-quarters of total immigrants are here legally, and 45 percent are naturalized citizens.

    I have no idea how this could be assessed to any reasonable of accuracy since the immigrants who aren’t here legally are, by definition, undocumented.

    Though it's difficult to get a full sense of what percentage are here illegally

    Oh, wait, so later, you admit that the earlier number is conjured from the aether. Uhm, weird.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Math is racist.

    2. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Models for climate change over predict. Models for illegal immigrants under predict. Both in directions useful to the left.

    3. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

      Three-quarters of total immigrants are here legally, and 45 percent are naturalized citizens. More than half of immigrants are proficient in English.

      Also, over what time period? All immigrants ever? Within the last three years? What scale, Liz?

  18. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Why did fertility decline in France during the 18th century?

    They finally stopped being nose deaf. Ha!

    1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

      Savinien de Cyrano de Bergerac hardest hit.
      🙂
      😉

  19. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Today in Iceland, thousands of women (including the prime minister) are on strike...

    Shirt-wearers and sandwich-eaters hardest hit.

    1. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

      Today in Iceland, thousands of women (including the prime minister) are on strike (called kvennafrí) to protest the purported gender pay gap.

      Too bad there's nobody there who could do something about that.

      "Women and non-binary people have been urged to refuse paid and unpaid work on Tuesday, including household chores,"

      They should go on strike. No cleaning up after themselves until Dad pays them.

      "Iceland has been ranked the best country in the world for gender equality by the World Economic Forum (WEF) for 14 years in a row."

      The overlords say you're on the right track, ladies.

      1. mad.casual   2 years ago (edited)

        The overlords say you’re on the right track, ladies.

        They had to go with the nonsensical “unpaid labor gender pay gap” because “unfair female gender gap” didn’t quite carry the same pro-feminist dog-whistle message.

        1. mamabug   2 years ago

          How is there an unpaid labor gender pay gap when women usually control around 80% of the domestic spending for a family? Sounds like they are getting paid pretty well.

    2. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago (edited)

      In related news, with all the chicks gone, iclandic companies are reporting record productivity, and record employee moral

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        Sandwich making factory went bankrupt.

        1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

          Nah, they repurposed to sausage and beef jerjer plants

  20. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

    that at least some folks with sympathies for Hamas are homegrown.

    This is, of course, an excellent point by Liz. It's a bit severe to start crowing about the illegal immigrants who say positive things about Hamas when our higher institutions are apparently teaching students to always side with Hamas. It seems we have a major problem that isn't being imported.

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Higher education is filled with immigrants teaching. Not sure that is a separate issue.

      1. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

        It's certainly separate from the issue of illegal immigration since there aren't illegal immigrants teaching classes in college.

        Beyond that, it's educators pushing on students an oversimplified anti-white, anti-colonization view of history which created this Hamas sympathy. That's prevalent among the white liberal elite, and it's an unsurprising consequence to see anti-Israel sentiments result from that. There's tons of affluent white liberals who have been pushing the Boycott Israel or Divest from Israel movements for decades already. I don't believe this is predominantly or even significantly coming from foreign-born teachers and professors. You'd need to show me a lot of counter evidence of correlation between the students protesting and the teachers educating them to convince me-this support for Hamas is such an obvious outgrowth of the oppressor/oppressed dynamic embraced by white liberals.

        1. Nardz   2 years ago

          Funny how it's only now a problem...

          1. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

            It's obviously been a problem for a long time. What's happening now is that many of these institutions have a lot of Jewish donors, and those donors are receiving a wake-up call.

            1. Nobartium   2 years ago

              Those same Jewish donors will only stop the flow briefly. Once the conflict dies down, the money resumes.

          2. damikesc   2 years ago

            I'd always say it's never too late to have somebody wake up to reality.

            Progressive Jews are learning that the progs they support HATE them. Saying "We told you so" is counter-productive. Orthodox have been leaning right for a while and now the far less observant ones are realizing that not being very religious at all is of precious little benefit to their "allies"

            1. Nardz   2 years ago

              Progressive jews will go right back to fighting "white supremacy" and those evil right wingers when the current thing blows over.

              1. Truthfulness   2 years ago

                They are gonna have a big decision to make in the near future: either embrace their cultural, ethnoreligious background or become Marxist self-hating Jews and embrace antisemitism.

                I'm optimistic that many Jews will repent of their errors and renounce progressivism.

        2. JesseAz   2 years ago

          Confucius Institutes are here on legal visas but they push Chinese doctrine. If Chinese illegals do the same should we dismiss them as invalid comparisons?

      2. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

        The ccp has a ton of professors for the purpose of stealing ip and designs

    2. Jerry B.   2 years ago

      Cal Berkeley will give the undocumented lessons in teaching.

      https://calteach.berkeley.edu/frequently-asked-questions#:~:text=Are%20Undocumented%20Students%20eligible%20to,teaching%20credentials%20in%20CA%20%2D%20however.

  21. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Rep. J.D. Vance (R–Ohio) calls for aid to Israel and Ukraine to be split up.

    Easier to not even pretend to audit.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Rep. J.D. Vance (R–Ohio) calls for aid to Israel and Ukraine to be split up eliminated would be better.

  22. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    there is no way to talk about "limiting the spread of misinformation" without sounding like a Leninist

    The self-appointed fact checkers are okay with that.

    1. Super Scary   2 years ago

      They were probably blushing when they read that.

  23. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

    "I killed 10 Jews with my bare hands," says one Hamas terrorist to someone on the phone, per one of the recordings.

    Okay, but yes, this guy is obviously lying. His bare hands? C'mon. I'm sure afterwards he had all of the sex with his hot girlfriend who lives in Canada.

    1. Ajsloss   2 years ago

      She's a supermodel.

    2. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

      They were all babies. Can you say one good thing about murdering babies?
      "it's easy?" - tweek

    3. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

      Ewww! Way to ruin morning wood by associating sex with murder!

      1. damikesc   2 years ago

        More like MOURNING wood...amirite?

        Hello?

        Is this thing on?

        1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

          I’ll just put this here
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPiSGzL3uN4

      2. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

        associating sex with murder!

        And also Canada.

        1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

          I've had some pretty killer sex before...

          1. Dillinger   2 years ago

            ^^^

        2. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

          I dunno. Alanis looks doable, albeit that might be dick-in-crazy territory.

  24. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    The general narcissism of the American far left can be very annoying and counterproductive.

    Depends on what you think they're trying to produce.

    1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

      I hope he realizes that Palestinians are mainly persecuted by their self-appointed "leaders" and "brothers" and that Red China's CCP and PLA support these exploiters.

  25. sarcasmic   2 years ago

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12666441/Jenna-Ellis-Trump-election-georgia-powell.html

    Trump co-defendant Jenna Ellis breaks down in TEARS as she pleads guilty in Georgia election case: Crying attorney says she would have refused to back ex-president 'if I knew then what I know now'

    Rut ro.

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

      What do you think is worrying about that statement?

      What i know now implies temporal based information, not concurrent. And she wasn't even hired by Trump.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        That is the way a cultist thinks. Jenna couldn't see things properly until she left the MAGA Cult for a while.

        1. Sevo   2 years ago

          turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
          turd lies. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

        2. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

          That's the way a cultist thinks, Pluggo.
          Jenna couldn’t see things "properly" until she was threatened with phony criminal charges and Democratic party attack dogs tried to ruin her career.

          Imagine reveling in fascism on a purportedly libertarian board.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

            What can we say, Shrike's a fascist, and has shown he is a bigoted, racist, misogynistic, anti-liberty, anti-democracy fascist time and time again here.

          2. Dillinger   2 years ago

            >>That’s the way a cultist thinks, Pluggo.

            this. ass shown.

    2. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

      They're prosecuting lawyers for lawyering, Sarcasmic, and you think that it's okay.

      I'm sure if she would've known that kangaroo courts and invented charges were in the offering for doing her job, she would've run away.
      Enjoy your banana republic.

      1. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

        This reads like something from a Soviet show trial:

        "'I believe in and I value election integrity. And if I knew then what I know now, I would have declined to represent Donald Trump in these post election challenges.'"

        ...and you're celebrating it.

        1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

          Celebrating? No dude. Only in your imagination.

          1. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

            Alright, but I'm saving that post for when I invariably see you celebrating.

        2. sarcasmic   2 years ago

          As I've said before, I find the whole ordeal to be shameful on many levels. We've gone from the losing party drafting impeachment papers before their opponent is sworn in to disputing election results like crybabies to charging the loser with crimes. For people capable of shame it's embarrassing.

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago

            You never said that before. Here is what you said.

            R Mac 5 days ago
            Flag Comment Mute User
            What’s your opinion of DAs overcharging to get lesser plea deals, sarc?

            sarcasmic 5 days ago
            Flag Comment Mute User
            It’s just how the system works. The fact is that most people are guilty. Plea deals streamline the system and avoid costly trials. If someone really is innocent, then they can demand a trial. Granted some lack the resources, but not the people in this particular case.
            So the fact that a lawyer with deep pockets and plenty of resources pled guilty tells me that crimes were indeed committed.

            1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

              I have said that before, on multiple occasions. Thing is, you don't bookmark statements like that, because that would be honest. And as we all know, if you were accidentally honest you'd go into anaphylactic shock.

              1. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

                You are lying. You have not stated so.

                I’m sure you can find your old comment.

                When the plea broke you immediately defended it as you did there.

                Are you delusional or just get off on lying?

                Either you are lying or are so unprincipled you'll go against your beliefs in this political case.

                1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                  You are lying. You have not stated so.

                  You read every single comment on Reason? No? Then how am I lying?

                  I’m sure you can find your old comment.

                  You aren't worth the effort. Let me repeat that.

                  You
                  are
                  not
                  worth
                  the
                  effort.

                  When the plea broke you immediately defended it as you did there.

                  I explained how the system works. Take it up with the system, not me.

                  Are you delusional or just get off on lying?

                  No, that's your job.

                  Either you are lying or are so unprincipled you’ll go against your beliefs in this political case.

                  You can gaslight all day long, but I know what I said.

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                    I'd suggest learning the definition of "gaslighting" before you spout off again.

                    1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      Your comment is an ironically great example of gaslighting.

                    2. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      Still doesn't know what gaslighting means, but sarc sure loves to use it.

                    3. R Mac   2 years ago

                      WHATABOUTISM!

                    4. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                      sarcasmic 4 hours ago
                      Your comment is an ironically great example of gaslighting.

                      With this, sarc, you just proved my point.

            2. sarcasmic   2 years ago (edited)

              Have you ever had a conversation with any defense attorneys off-hours? I have. They’ll tell you that most if not all of their clients are guilty. The job of the attorney is to make sure their client doesn’t get steamrolled and to get the best plea bargain that they can. On very rare occasions they defend someone who is innocent, and that’s when they go to court. That’s just how it is. I don't like it. But that's the system.

              1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                For fucks sake sarc. It is well known that defense attorneys weigh risks. It is one of the primary reasons for over charging. Especially when the plea is 0 jail time and 10k. A criminal attorney will charge more than that just on retainer to get to trial. It is not proof of guilt. It is proof of overcharging. 5 felonies to zero.

                Youre defending a corrupt system yet again despite saying just above you are always against it.

                What the fuck is wrong with you?

                1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                  It was speaking with attorneys that changed my mind on the subject. Maybe you should consider getting more information from different points of view before calling me names.

              2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

                “If they weren’t guilty, they wouldn’t be in court”

          2. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

            So you seem to imply that the Cunt®™ (legally known as Hillary Rodham Clinton) is incapable of shame.

            1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

              Well yeah. Same goes for most politicians, and most of the Trumpistas in the comments.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                Cite?

              2. JesseAz   2 years ago

                Reminder. Don't call sarc a neocon leftist as he pushes their narratives daily but he will call you a trumpista for daring to push back against political attacks and abuse of the state against Trump.

                1. R Mac   2 years ago

                  And he’s too stupid to realize what he’s doing.

                  1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                    LOL like you're one to call someone stupid! You own the pointy hat and will have to google what that means! LMAO!

                    1. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

                      Retard laughs at himself in the mirror thinking it is someone else. Sad.

                      Forget to switch to sqrsly?

                    2. R Mac   2 years ago

                      Pour sarc.

                    3. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                      Pour sarc.

      2. sarcasmic   2 years ago

        Ellis said: 'I'm an attorney who is also a Christian. I take my responsibilities as a lawyer very seriously. I relied on others, including lawyers with many more years of experience, to provide me with true and reliable information. Especially since my role involves speaking to the media and to legislators in various states.

        'What I did not do but should have done, Your Honor, was to make sure that the facts the other lawyers alleged to be true were in fact true.

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

          This letter was required as part of the plea and had to be approved by the courts. You seem to be using state mandated speech for political purposes.

          1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

            Are you saying the falsified "facts" were actually true, or that it wasn't her job to verify them?

            1. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

              How is what Jenna Ellis did different from what Kevin Clinesmith did?

              1. damikesc   2 years ago

                She didn't do it on behalf of the bureaucracy.

            2. JesseAz   2 years ago

              Her letter didn't lay out any facts.

              Keep struggling to defend political prosecutions.

              1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                Are you saying the falsified “facts” were actually true, or that it wasn’t her job to verify them?

                1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                  There were no facts. It was emotive apologies written as demanded by the courts in the plea agreement. What facts were listed?

                  Try harder sarc.

                  1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                    Because she didn't list them in her speech doesn't mean they weren't listed at all. Do you ever get tired of carrying the goalposts?

                    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      For fucks sake. You just admitted there were no facts in the letter as I stated but you still think you're right.

                      Generally any agreements of proffer are documented by he courts. So far in none of the pleas has there been mention of a proffer agreement.

                      Youre cheering on political use of the legal system as the good trained statist you've become.

      3. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Remember. Sarc said she was guilty since she plead down from 15 years to 0 years, 10k fine, and record expungement. He denied the plea was a political act and that was the only care from the prosecutor. That's why she also included a state mandates apology. It was a political prosecution and sarc is the type of person the political prosecution was intended for. To give them a talking point.

        1. JesseNM   2 years ago

          You are so right, brother. Trump did nothing wrong and neither did any of his lawyers or associates or employees. Prosecuting Trump, or any of Trump's lawyers, or anyone associated with Trump, or anyone who ever looked at Trump, for anything whatsoever, is a bogus political charge made up by America-hating Democrats weaponizing the justice system against Real American Patriots such as ourselves.

          1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

            Almost an example of Poe's law. Needs more practice.

            1. JesseNM   2 years ago

              I don't know anything about "Poe's law", and I don't know anything about what Jenna Ellis did either, but I know that she worked for Trump, and so prosecuting Jenna Ellis is political weaponization of the justice system against conservatives. There can be no other explanation!

              1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                Talking to your sock, sarc?

                1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                  The sock only comes out when sarcs arguments are being outright demolished, yet he thinks he is tricking people. It is amazing.

                  1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                    He's a parody of you, but I think he needs practice. Ain't me though. I'd get a headache sinking down to your level.

                    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      Sure. Just always comes put after you get embarrassed, has your same list, and tries to call others the one true libertarian. If not you maybe you want to tell your leftist allies to become better at parody, because they stink. May also want to show the same level of outrage you pretended to have when parodying Mike and Jeff instead of backing your sock up. Lol.

              2. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

                Be careful sarc. Don’t want to out yourself again.

          2. damikesc   2 years ago

            Prosecuting his lawyers for providing legal advice is a horrifying attack on anybody getting legal representation.

  26. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    16 States Strongly Object To JPMorgan Settlement With Epstein Accusers
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/16-states-object-jpmorgan-settlement-epstein-accusers

    In a letter made public Monday in a Manhattan federal court filing, attorneys general of 16 states and Washington DC said that the language from the settlement prevents "any sovereign or government" from pursuing damages arising from Epstein's sex trafficking operation and the late financier's associates, Reuters reports.

  27. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

    But here's the best part: "Iceland has been ranked the best country in the world for gender equality by the World Economic Forum (WEF) for 14 years in a row."

    Well if it comes from the WEF, I'm immediately skeptical. But then, I'm also immediately skeptical about evidence of supposed 'pay gaps,' so it's probably bullshit all the way around.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Chicks. Go figure.

    2. mad.casual   2 years ago

      I’m also immediately skeptical about evidence of supposed ‘pay gaps,’ so it’s probably bullshit all the way around.

      You should be doubly skeptical and more about "pay gaps" around "unpaid labor".

    3. Square = Circle   2 years ago

      I’m also immediately skeptical about evidence of supposed ‘pay gaps,’ so it’s probably bullshit all the way around.

      One needn't be skeptical. There's no disagreement about the data, only about the framing.

      The "pay gap" refers to the fact that if you add up all of the money earned by men and add up all of the money earned by women, "men" as a group earn more than "women" as a group.

      The fact that women choose certain types of work that don't tend to pay as well is to be ignored.

      If you compare a man and a woman in the same job, with the same level of experience, the pay gap narrows to a rounding error.

      1. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

        That's certainly my understanding in the US. I wouldn't know if things are substantially different in Iceland. Perhaps women actually ARE being underpaid in Iceland, for all I know. It's all going to come down to the accuracy and validity of the data.

        1. mad.casual   2 years ago (edited)

          Don’t care. It’s not any government’s job to fix, address, or pay attention to private pay gaps, much less address other countries’ pay gaps.

          Equality before the law is a (post-)Enlightenment concept. Equity by law is an authoritarian/totalitarian socialist one. Paying two different people two different sums for the exact same labor isn't a crime.

      2. Moonrocks   2 years ago

        The “pay gap” refers to the fact that if you add up all of the money earned by men and add up all of the money earned by women, “men” as a group earn more than “women” as a group.

        I wonder if they factored in Mackenzie Bezos' divorce payout.

  28. JesseAz   2 years ago

    This is a strange caricature of the immigrants coming here. Do we have evidence that America-hating jihadist-sympathizers are trying to get into the country en masse?

    I have a week of protests for you Liz. A summer of riots.

  29. sarcasmic   2 years ago

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12662755/Taylor-Swift-Travis-Kelce-NFL-lucky-mascot.html

    EXCLUSIVE: Taylor Swift thinks Travis Kelce's NFL dominance is 'beyond sexy' and loves going to games so she can bond with his friends and family - while Kansas City Chiefs star is telling popstar she's his 'lucky charm'

    Whenever I see pictures of her at a game I think she's only with the guy because his team colors match her lipstick.

    1. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

      So he did not quit yet just so he can watch sports and play video games all day while drinking beer and eating pizza and buffalo wings.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        She'll hate him within a year then write a song about what a shitty dude he turned out to be. But with her money she can do whatever she wants.

        Taylor was worshipped as the Aryan goddess by the Neo-Nazi types until they found out she was a Democrat. They now hate her.

        1. Sevo   2 years ago

          turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
          If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
          turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.

          1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

            Taylor Swift, Aryan Goddess?
            .
            So, this is happening: Some white supremacists have anointed Taylor Swift an "Aryan goddess," claiming that she secretly espouses far-right beliefs and is waiting for Donald Trump's ascension to the presidency to make her true views known.
            .
            For the record, Swift has no affiliation with any white supremacist groups. She has never publicly made any white supremacist remarks, nor has she ever been accused of making them in private. There is no reason to believe she has any interest whatsoever in any of this.
            .
            So where did it come from? Vice's women-centered website, Broadly, did a deep dive into the history of the Swift-neo-Nazi fantasy and its satirical roots; it's worth a read if you're interested. It quotes Andre Anglin, who is behind the Daily Stormer website, lauding Swift's "sculpted Aryan form," as well as the community manager of the Taylor Swift for Fascist Europe Facebook page, who praised Swift's "Nordic blood" and the fact that she's not "having gang-bangs with colored gentlemen" as reasons for her adoration.

            https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2016/05/27/479462825/taylor-swift-aryan-goddess

            1. Nobartium   2 years ago

              Omegalul, NPR.

              1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

                Taylor Swift for Fascist Europe was a real thing.

                Imagine the disappointment when it turned out she is a Democrat.

                1. Nobartium   2 years ago

                  Considering that democrats are the founders of the KKK, they couldn't be that disappointed.

                  1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

                    That was 1870 dude.

                    KKK and Neo-Nazis all moved to the GOP.

                    1. Nobartium   2 years ago (edited)

                      The last KKK member elected to Congress was a Dem.

                      Gaslight with child porn next time, just so I can turn reason to the FBI.

                    2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                      Got links, pedo?

                    3. Sevo   2 years ago

                      turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
                      turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

                    4. Sevo   2 years ago (edited)

                      .

                    5. damikesc   2 years ago

                      Funny how loathing Jews is a heavily Democrat thing, ain't it?

                    6. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      Dems still support segregation for fucks sake. Your false narrative has been refuted hundreds of times at this point dumbass.

            2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

              Yet another example of the media falling for a 4chan prank.

              1. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

                No actual quotes in any of Pluggo's links, just lots of "some users say".

              2. R Mac   2 years ago

                “Broadly, did a deep dive into the history of the Swift-neo-Nazi fantasy and its satirical roots”

                Actually looks like even the media realized it was satire. Apparently pedo doesn’t even read his links when he copy-pastes them.

                1. Sevo   2 years ago

                  "..Apparently pedo doesn’t even read his links when he copy-pastes them..."

                  Seems turd doesn't. But then turd is both a pathological liar with a heaping helping of stupid besides.

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                    Turd never does read his own links.

            3. ElvisIsReal   2 years ago

              "Vice’s women-centered website, Broadly, did a deep dive into the history of the Swift-neo-Nazi fantasy and its satirical roots"

        2. sarcasmic   2 years ago

          First part, duh. Second part, retarded.

        3. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

          “Taylor was worshipped…. by the neo nazi types..”

          Hey, thanks for staying on top of this stuff for us, buttplug. If it wasn’t for you and SRG we would have never known about the nefarious preferences of nazis and crackers. Great work.

          Haha. What a loser.

    2. Square = Circle   2 years ago

      I think she’s only with the guy because his team colors match her lipstick

      Plus, she'll be able to use some sports metaphors in her next break-up song.

  30. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/Sargon_of_Akkad/status/1716780921116824046?t=6a5KX9z5GdZgqRQ4uLVRrA&s=19

    Why it's time to become an obedient sheep and do whatever the powers-that-be tell you, my latest for the Times.

    [Link]

    1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

      Putin be a power-that-be too, right, Nazi Nardz?

      1. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago (edited)

        What the hell, dude. Did you even click on the link?

        1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

          Yes, and Putin and/or Dugin could have written every one of those headlines.

    2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      How far the left has gone, from "question authority" to "obey authority".

      1. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

        They have become the authority.

        1. Truthfulness   2 years ago

          Rage Became the Machine

  31. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago (edited)

    I don’t know if anyone has posted about this before, but a whole lot of thinkers are standing against censorship done in the name of “Misinformation/Disinformation/Malinformation” (MDM *Growl!*)

    The Westminster Declaration
    https://westminsterdeclaration.org/

    It’s very shaky ground to base this opposition to censorship on the United Nations Declaration of Human Rights and so-called “democratic rights,” but at least the opposition is there and maybe Libertarians could set them straight on the proper foundation of the Natural Individual Right to freedom of thought and inquiry.

  32. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    In addition to everything else, Wokeism is an excuse to be incompetent. Kids can't read? Teachers are really supposed to be making them activists, not readers.

    https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1716668142460526970

    Blue state suspends basic skills graduation requirement again, citing harm to students of color https://

    1. BYODB   2 years ago

      Well yeah, you can't expect minorities to do well in school since they are obviously genetically inferior and need white saviors to protect them from themselves.

      - What Progressives Really Think

  33. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago (edited)

    Gay Proud Boy Who Used Wooden Plank To Smash Through Senate Door Pleads Guilty to January 6 Crimes The adult film actor, who goes by ‘Sergeant Miles’ in his films, was accused of shoving and attempting to punch a Capitol Police officer as his friend cheered him on.

    https://www.nysun.com/article/porn-star-turned-proud-boy-who-used-wooden-plank-to-smash-through-senate-door-pleads-guilty-to-january-6-crimes

    But Sargent Miles is pictured in the MAGA section of ‘Advocate’

    https://www.advocate.com/crime/2022/4/14/gay-adult-film-entertainer-sergeant-miles-arrested-role-jan-6-insurrection-capitol

    1. Sevo   2 years ago

      turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
      turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        Sevo, you probably know Sergeant Miles from the Tenderloin. Have you ever mopped his splooge in the bath house?

        1. Sevo   2 years ago (edited)

          turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
          If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental. turd lies; it’s what he does.
          turd is a lying pile of lefty shit

          1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago (edited)

            Sevo, are there MAGA-only bath-houses in the Tenderloin? You know – for the rough-and-rowdy top-men? No Jewy soy-boys allowed?

            1. Sevo   2 years ago

              turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
              turd lies. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

              1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

                Sevo, could you wear a Covid mask with your ball-gag? How did that work?

                1. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

                  turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
                  If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental. turd lies; it’s what he does.
                  turd is a lying pile of lefty shit

                2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago (edited)

                  Turd, the TDS-addled ass clown of the commentariat, lies. It’s all he fucking ever does, is lie. He lies out his mouth and lies out his ass. If he says anything factual or truthful, it’s a fucking accident as Turd lies. Turd. Lies. All. The. Fucking. Time.

                3. Sevo   2 years ago (edited)

                  TDS-addled turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
                  If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
                  turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

  34. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1716599493943075046?t=jD7LeyAPZzA2pvaD0QeasQ&s=19

    Yesterday, a pro-Palestine mob attacked a Christian man in Skokie, Illinois. You didn’t hear about this because it doesn’t fit the narrative.

    [Video]

    1. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

      Always carry, and always carry standard capacity magazines.

      Side note - If he'd pulled a gun and ended the threat, he would've been Rittenhoused in the press.

      1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

        Oh yeah, Illinois. That wasn't happening.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Not just Illinois, but Cook County. Odds are, Kim Foxx would throw the book at him for self-defense.

        2. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

          Illinois has legal concealed carry. Is there something I'm missing?

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

            Kim Foxx, Cook County State's Attorney. She's a Soros-backed piece of shit on par with that asshole from New York or the ousted one from San Francisco.

    2. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

      Animals.

  35. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

    "...that at least some folks with sympathies for Hamas are homegrown."

    Yes, of course, but that is not an argument for letting people with sympathies for Hamas to immigrate to the USA. Maybe, there are good arguments against trying to screen out Hamas supporters from the potential immigrant pool, but the fact there are natural citizens who do support Hamas is not one of them.

  36. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

    Today in Iceland, thousands of women (including the prime minister) are on strike (called kvennafrí) to protest the purported gender pay gap. "... "Iceland has been ranked the best country in the world for gender equality by the World Economic Forum (WEF) for 14 years in a row."

    Women... nothing's ever good enough, amiright?

    1. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

      The so-called "gender pay gap" is almost entirely attributable to the gross statistical choices women as a group tend make in pursuing a career, including what types of jobs to pursue, how much time daily or weekly they are willing to devote to work, and taking time off from career to have and raise children. So what the Icelandic women are striking against is their own and other women's freely made choices which do not prioritize wages. How bizarre.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        They never argue to equalize the job risk gap. Men get injured and die on the job at far greater rates than women.

        1. Ajsloss   2 years ago

          YOU WANT WOMEN TO DIE!

        2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

          All jobs and employees are equal.

      2. Minadin   2 years ago

        It also has to do with the shape of the bell curve distribution for various attributes that correlate with job & financial success for men vs. women.

        Men have more geniuses and also more psychopaths, more workaholics and more idiots in their distribution. Women tend to be . . . more average, on average.

        1. Square = Circle   2 years ago

          Men have more geniuses and also more psychopaths, more workaholics and more idiots in their distribution.

          More CEOs and more homeless drug addicts.

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago

            Leave sarc out of this.

      3. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

        If women en masse made equal pay to men, that would represent a pay gap-- as men would be definitionally underpaid. Unless all those birthing persons magically stopped taking time off... or non-birthing persons also took the exact same time off in some kind of solidarity movement.

        1. BYODB   2 years ago

          Honestly, paternity leave should be more common but it's simply not in the American social construct to give men time off to spend time with their newborns and wife that just got out of the hospital.

          Of course, one can simply save up PTO at most jobs but not everyone can really do that. In fact, most of us can't.

          I'm not necessarily saying that's good, or bad, but it's certainly a thing.

          1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

            Can I take some "non-paternity leave" for successfully preventing pregnancy?

            1. JesseAz   2 years ago

              California mandated abortion leave.

              1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

                I can't... Well, OK, in California I actually might just be able to get one of those, though I'm fairly confident that I don't want any doctor addled enough to try and perform an abortion on a dude anywhere near any portion of my anatomy. Not worth it for some time off. Also, living in California not worth it for some time off.

      4. American Mongrel   2 years ago

        I'd also assume that if you limited the sample to the bottom 95% of wage earners, that the pay gap would be in women's favor.

  37. Ajsloss   2 years ago

    A few days ago, I mentioned that it had been reported for several successive days prior that generators were expected to run out of fuel "within hours". And yet, it seems the generators at 20 hospitals are still running. This is truly the Hannukah of our time.

    1. R Mac   2 years ago

      Any minute now…

    2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      Hamas is like Turd. They lie. They lie when they know they're lying. They lie when we know they're lying. They lie when they know we know they're lying. Hamas lies.

    3. SRG2   2 years ago

      This is truly the Hannukah of our time.

      That's very funny!

      What the pro-Palestinian media doesn't report is that the people bringing fuel in are trying to ensure that none gets to Hamas, who have the habit of seizing it before it gets to vital services (big surprise). And this is not easy.

      1. Sevo   2 years ago

        "...What the pro-Palestinian media doesn’t report is that the people bringing fuel in are trying to ensure that none gets to Hamas, who have the habit of seizing it before it gets to vital services (big surprise)..."

        "Just so" story, no cite.

  38. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

    “…that at least some folks with sympathies for Hamas are homegrown.”

    Yes, of course, but that is not an argument for letting people with sympathies for Hamas to immigrate to the USA. Maybe, there are good arguments against trying to screen out Hamas supporters from the potential immigrant pool, but the fact there are natural citizens who do support Hamas is not one of them.

  39. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/extradeadjcb/status/1716693854118723910?t=ahg8crV7BWKiqijitHjKmg&s=19

    "Whoops our social experiment didn't work like we thought & actually made everything x% worse but it's too late to walk it back now lmao sorry good luck"

    - the managerial class, every 2 weeks

    [Link]

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      For those that are curious, this is what that post was responding to:

      unusual_whales
      @unusual_whales
      States that legalize marijuana for adults see moderate economic gains after the policy change is implement but also experience an increase in social costs including substance use disorders, chronic homelessness and arrests, per the Federal Reserve.
      7:41 AM · Oct 23, 2023

      See Denver for the clearest example of this dynamic in action, where all the promises of the legalize it crowd have fallen short except for the state getting more money from drug sales, the absolute shit-fest of a homeless problem they have being the most notable.

      1. BYODB   2 years ago

        It truly blows my mind that a city that freezes solid for a good part of the year has such a homeless issue. I can't put any stats to it right now but the homeless issue seems much more obvious in Denver than it did in Dallas and for the record the DFW area has half the population of the entire state of Colorado.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          See Chicago. Chicago has a number of tent cities, and it snows every winter.

        2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

          Denver's always had homeless issues to varying degrees, but most of that was local residents who simply made stupid choices.
          Legalizing weed turned the city into a magnet for every drug-huffing freak in the country. Most of the city's current social decline and general dysfunction can be directly traced to that one event, because a lot of people who just want to go about their day without having to wade through the sea of drug addicts either moved to other parts of Colorado, or left the state entirely.

      2. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

        to be fair correlation is not causation.

        The kinds of places that are legalizing marijuana are also enabling homelessness and open air drug markets and such for "social equity"

        1. BYODB   2 years ago

          And that does actually track with Denver as well since they've been trying all kinds of legalization or at least decriminalization scheme's.

          At least some of it is cost of living in Colorado since home prices here are outright insane with a basic starter home in the half a million range or higher.

          Of course, Denver and Colorado more generally are fairly unfriendly to development so that trend will probably continue for at least a while longer. Prices here are actually more expensive than they were in Dallas by around double the price which is insane given the relative population density.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

            Yep, and the idiot leftists in the state house made it worse by convincing its mouth-breathing voter base to get rid of the Gallagher Amendment, causing property taxes to take an absolute rocket ride, which is leading to the current stupidity of Prop HH--which won't actually solve the problem, either.

            And the hilarious part is that even in that deep blue state, none of the legislators seem to want to stick their necks out and propose the removal of TABOR, which has been a bete noir of these people ever since it was passed.

        2. Zeb   2 years ago

          Yeah, I doubt that cannabis legalization has much at all to do with the social problems mentioned. People who wanted to smoke weed by and large already were. Seems like the problem is all the other ill advised social experiments going on. If legalization went along with vigorous enforcement of property and violent crimes, things would look rather different.

        3. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

          Also, there's just a fuck ton more homelessness everywhere. Oddly enough, letting 8 million people across the border illegally might have some impact on housing availability.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago (edited)

            The Denver ComPost had a recent article talking about how the metro area’s about 100K housing units behind what it actually needs to accommodate everyone that’s moved to the area, even after a few recent years of frantic multi-unit housing development that the morons in the state house perpetually failed to incentivize while they were busy jerking themselves off over the latest gun control bill they had passed.

            Over the last 20-odd years, Denver’s been hit two ways–by foreign immigration (the two high schools I attended went from 6.5% to 20% , and 9% to 75% Hispanic, respectively, since the early 90s), and by out-of-state socialist Millennials and late Gen-Xers that viewed Colorado as mecca for a certain kind of idealized bobo lifestyle, similar to what their retard dirtbag allies did with Portland.

      3. ElvisIsReal   2 years ago

        This is because our idiotic states jumped 5 steps from "don't arrest people for just getting high" to "people can get high and sleep wherever they want."

  40. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    NYT rehires Hitler-praising Soliman Hijjy to cover Israel-Hamas war
    https://nypost.com/2023/10/20/hitler-praising-soliman-hijjy-covers-israel-hamas-war-for-nyt/

    A New York Times reporter who came under fire last year for a praising Adolf Hitler in multiple resurfaced Facebook posts was rehired by the Gray Lady to cover the Israel-Palestine war.

    Palestinian filmmaker Soliman Hijjy hailed the Nazi leader as recently as 2018 in a post on Facebook, when he shared a photo of himself captioned that he was “in a state of harmony as Hitler was during the Holocaust,” per a translation from Arabic by pro-Israel media watchdog site HonestReporting....

    1. damikesc   2 years ago

      ....but I was assured that neo-Nazis et al were all Republicans...

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Yeah... but shrike lies.

        1. Sevo   2 years ago

          If turd posted it, it's a lie. Bank it; you'll rarely lose.

    2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

      Huh. Really? I can’t believe that buttplug isn’t on this. He seems so dedicated to covering the loser nazi beat.

      I’m sure he’s just too busy to catch them all. Haha.

  41. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1716519594360230359?t=yRZxgcp7G6nqgxZw_ROMww&s=19

    Jean-Pierre is asked about the rise of anti-Semitism in America and responds by saying “Muslims and those perceived to be Muslim have endured a disproportionate number of hate-fueled attacks."

    [Video]

    1. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

      She did the same thing when a tranny murdered Christian children.

      1. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

        There's a long history in the party of that. Woodrow Wilson did the same whenever the KKK lynched Blacks.

  42. Ajsloss   2 years ago

    dialogue is healing

    If silence is violence, then, yeah, that checks out.

  43. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    WSJ: DOJ Offers Sweetheart Plea Deal To IRS Consultant Who Leaked Tax Return Information Of Trump And Thousands Of Wealthy Americans
    https://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2023/10/department-of-justice-sweetheart-plea-deal-irs-consultant-leaked-tax-return-information.html

    Yet prosecutors in the Justice Department’s public integrity section of the criminal division charged Mr. Littlejohn in September with only a single count of willfully disclosing confidential tax information. ... The plea deal documents filed with the court note that ... “the defendant’s stipulated Sentencing Guidelines range is 8 to 14 months,” with a fine range of “$4,000 to $40,000.” What a steal. ...

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Booze Allen has had contractors guilty of multiple leaks. They are primary donors to democrats and with the DoJ giving them slight slaps on the hand it seems to be coordinated to violate the law. The firm just got a huge contract from the IRS for database overhaul despite this action.

  44. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

    Jenna Ellis, in tears, says she has 'remorse' as she takes plea deal in Georgia election case
    Ellis becomes the fourth defendant to get probation in exchange for testimony

    ABC News

    Donnie poison - everyone around him becomes felon.

    1. Sevo   2 years ago

      turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    2. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

      They are only "felons" because of creative interpretations of law by prosecutors.

      1. Sevo   2 years ago

        Yep. turd lies.

    3. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

      I'm not sure if what she pled to was a felony or a misdemeanor, though. Because she didn't plead to knowing making a false statement (which, in furtherance of a fraud, would be a felony), she simply aided and abetted the false statements and says she did not knowingly engage in the falsehood, I'm leaning toward saying she pled to a misdemeanor.

      Also, for fuck's sake, a lawyer who pursued a legal theory based on information she understood was true at the time is now forced to plead guilty to a crime. Under this insanity, any defense lawyer could be charged with obstructing justice for trying to keep their client out of prison if they believed he was innocent, if they presented any evidence that later ended up refuted.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        The "understood was true at the time" was not the crime. The crime was the illegal scheme to overthrow the election results.

        1. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

          Trying to overthrow election results is not a crime, otherwise, John Podesta would have been prosecuted.

        2. Sevo   2 years ago

          turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
          turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit, a TDS-addled asshole and a pederast besides.

        3. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

          "The crime was the illegal scheme to overthrow the election results."

          So what do you think about Al Gores challenges or the Clinton campaign's Steele Dossier then?

          You're such a fucking Nazi.

          1. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

            We all know that the Pedo lies.

  45. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/pope_head/status/1716642905203388902?t=n7RVy6ovrcPBPONdw0aZfw&s=19

    this is getting more likes then the original post lmao

    [Link]

  46. Sevo   2 years ago

    "...But here's the best part: "Iceland has been ranked the best country in the world for gender equality by the World Economic Forum (WEF) for 14 years in a row."..."

    Obviously doesn't aid in that process known as "thinking".

  47. Sevo   2 years ago

    "there is no way to talk about “limiting the spread of misinformation” without sounding like a Leninist"

    Why, it's almost as if the two are related!!

  48. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

    Today in Iceland, thousands of women (including the prime minister) are on strike (called kvennafrí) to protest the purported gender pay gap.

    I was told sex was just a state of mind, which means these people can identify as men and thus get paid more.

    1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

      World gone crazy for sure. Conservatives are correct again - sex should be restricted to a man, his wife, and the pool boy.

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        Too bad your list includes children.

        1. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

          Buttplug's iffy on the man and woman bit, but he's all in on the poolboy.

          1. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

            Even 4 years ago, Amanda Anisimova was too old for him.

      2. Sevo   2 years ago

        turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
        If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
        turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

  49. Sevo   2 years ago

    "...Check out CNN's reporting on the horrific cascading effects that will come from hospitals in the region running out of fuel—including doctors no longer being able to keep babies in neonatal units alive..."

    Who did those doctors vote for?

    1. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

      We need to figure if the babies are registered to vote yet.

      1. Sevo   2 years ago

        Their parents are and it is their duty to protect them.

    2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      They still haven’t run out of fuel?

      1. Dillinger   2 years ago

        not for the rockets.

    3. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

      How were conditions in Hiroshima on August 7, 1945?

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        That place was a blast! Smokin’ hot!

        1. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

          And so will Gaza unless they surrender unconditionally.

      2. Sevo   2 years ago

        "How were conditions in Hiroshima on August 7, 1945?"

        On 8/5, it was a lot like Gaza: A major military center (terrorist in Gaza'a case), unwilling to end an aggressive war by surrender, and since the allies (Israelis, here) were unwilling to continue losing casualties the war, we got the morning of 8/6.
        And since that didn't turn the only head that mattered, we got 8/9 a short distance away.
        The Japanese assumed the Yamato Spirit was sufficient to win; the equally deluded leadership of Hamas seems to hope a sky-daddy will come and smite the Jews.
        It won't. Steel and tanks win.

  50. nobody 2   2 years ago

    Sadly neither Trump nor Wolfe appear to be aware that Israel is not technically part of America.

    1. Nardz   2 years ago

      Pointing that out is antisemitic

    2. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

      51st State!

      1. Dillinger   2 years ago

        one of the 57 anyway ...

  51. Commenter_XY   2 years ago (edited)

    Deleted

  52. Sevo   2 years ago

    "Greta Thunberg removed from Israeli curriculum over Gaza support"
    [...]
    "Israel has announced that it will remove all references to Greta Thunberg from its school curriculum, after the Swedish climate activist expressed support for Gaza.
    The Israeli education ministry said Ms Thunberg had disqualified herself from “being an educational role model” after she was photographed last week holding up a sign that read “stand with Gaza”..."
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/greta-thunberg-removed-from-israeli-textbooks-over-gaza-support/ar-AA1iHl8N

    The fact that she's a childish hypocrite wasn't enough.

    1. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

      I'm shocked that somehow she's considered a relevant topic that is being taught in schools. Though I really shouldn't be. If they're simply teaching about people who become famous without ever contributing to society, tough, they really should teach kids about Kim Kardashian and PewdiePie.

      1. Sevo   2 years ago (edited)

        I recall an interview with Michael Schermer where he was asked if there was anything science could not explain. “Of course: Paris Hilton.”

      2. BYODB   2 years ago

        I don't really get it either. She has done absolutely nothing newsworthy her entire life. She is literally just some kid, and the news reports on her because...reasons?

        1. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

          she's a manufactured phenom and it was coordinated from the beginning

          1. BYODB   2 years ago

            Yeah, I guess, but it seems to be akin to the Kardashian effect where they are basically famous for being famous.

  53. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/mirandadevine/status/1716774173102481856

    WSJ: The Biden administration quietly allowed sanctions to expire on Iran’s missile program on Oct. 18 even as Tehran’s proxies fire away at Israeli and American targets.

    1. Moonrocks   2 years ago

      It's all those Jews in the Biden regime making sure Israel's interests come first.

  54. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

    Tom Emmer for Speaker?

    Emmer is arguably the most moderate of the nine candidates—he was the only one who voted in favor of legislation to federally recognize same sex marriage last year, he supports aid for Ukraine and he voted alongside Democrats and a handful of Republicans in September for the short-term budget to avert a government shutdown.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2023/10/24/who-is-tom-emmer-heres-what-to-know-about-the-house-speaker-frontrunner-endorsed-by-mccarthy-but-criticized-by-trump-allies/?sh=2be075ee56a0

    Oh shit.

    Not pure enough!

    1. Sevo   2 years ago

      TDS-addled turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        Shut up, Sevo. Emmer is now Speaker Elect!

        His only opposition is the MAGA terror cell in the House. The Trump Cultists are threatening mutiny!

        1. Sevo   2 years ago

          turd, the TDS-addled asshole, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
          If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
          turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

        2. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

          TDS-addled turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
          If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
          turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

  55. Agammamon   2 years ago

    . . . including household chores,

    So . . . these women don't get dinner then?

    Do they not understand how households work? One person works outside the home and brings in cash, the other works inside the home to manage the household? Two different careers, the latter is 'paid' by the income the former brings in plus their own manufacturing efforts inside the home.

    1. mad.casual   2 years ago

      Even within the home and strictly with regard to unpaid labor, we can split the chores up so that both people's hands are dirty when it comes time to do the next clean chore or one of us can do all the dirty chores and one of us can do all the clean ones. The person who gets stuck with all the shitty, injurious, labor intensive chores won't complain as long as the other person shuts the hell up about having to clean up afterwards.

  56. SRG2   2 years ago

    "if you don't like our religion"

    The US does not have a religion.

    1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

      You obviously did not attend Hillsdale College or Bob Jones University where they teach a conservative view of the Constitution.

      1. Sevo   2 years ago

        TDS-addled turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
        turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

      2. SRG2   2 years ago

        I don't think any genuine and rational conservative thinks that the US has a religion. Insane right-wing crackers, that's a different story.

        1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

          “The church is supposed to direct the government. The government is not supposed to direct the church,” Boebert told the crowd, which applauded. “I’m tired of this separation of church and state junk.”
          .
          “It was not in the Constitution, it was in a stinking letter and it means nothing like what they say it does,” she continued.
          .
          The first-term, far-right congresswoman’s comments are disturbing, several political experts said and were likely inspired by recent U.S. Supreme Court rulings.

          https://www.denverpost.com/2022/06/27/lauren-boebert-church-state-colorado/

          1. Sevo   2 years ago

            turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
            If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
            turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

            1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

              #Insane right-wing crackers

              1. Sevo   2 years ago

                turd lies. turd always lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
                turd lies. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

    2. Nobartium   2 years ago

      Only legally, not culturally.

    3. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

      "The US does not have a religion."

      The US has many religions. The American federal government does not establish a religion, like the UK does with the Church of England.

      1. SRG2   2 years ago

        To be clear, Americans have many religions. And yes, the US does not have an established religion, unlike the UK, and would be all the better for it if not for theocratic fruitcakes who wish, and may even pretend, that the US does have (their version of) Christianity as their national religion - established or not.

        And it seems to be the cas that the far right are attempting the covert establishment of religion by increasingly using 1A to carve out special privileges for themselves and the religion they claim to follow.

        1. Zeb   2 years ago

          What do you consider an example of such a carve-out?

        2. Nobartium   2 years ago

          Yeah, how terrible that SCOTUS recognizes that religion animates decisions beyond the walls of a building and that the 1st protects that as well.

          1. Dillinger   2 years ago

            shame 6 of them don't understand government censorship though.

        3. Sevo   2 years ago

          "...And it seems to be the cas that the far right are attempting the covert establishment of religion by increasingly using 1A to carve out special privileges for themselves and the religion they claim to follow..."

          And it seems the obnoxiously arrogant lying piece of shit can't support his claim. Perhaps the obnoxiously arrogant lying piece of shit is lying once more?

        4. DesigNate   2 years ago

          Laws wouldn’t need “carve outs” (that’s a weird way to say recognize religious freedom, guv) if they weren’t blatantly unconstitutional to begin with. Too bad SCOTUS decides to leave shit in place rather than scrapping the whole law.

    4. Moonrocks   2 years ago

      It could be any one of the hundreds of religions Americans practice. Islamic fundamentalists aren't picky about killing infidels, even other Muslims.

  57. Dillinger   2 years ago

    kinda looks like the backside of Boebert in the pic up-top but that chick isn't wearing her Han Solo edition thigh-holster so probably not

  58. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>Do we have evidence that America-hating jihadist-sympathizers are trying to get into the country en masse?

    you want to let one in?

  59. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>difficult to get a full sense of what percentage are here illegally, most agree that today's number is a bit below the 2007 peak of 12.2 million, probably somewhere between 10 and 12 million.

    most agree? lol stop hanging out with Sullum it makes you stupider.

  60. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>Hamas' brutality comes into fuller view:

    oh, good ... so there is a little balance in your head today

  61. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>Gaza's health ministry reports that 704 people were killed in attacks last night

    and since the Gaza Health Ministry always underestimates its dead this number is probably closer to 7004

    1. markm23   2 years ago

      But how many of the dead would jump out of their coffins and run if they think the funeral procession is under attack?

      For those with short memories - there were videos on the internet several years ago when this _did_ happened at a Palestinian "funeral".

  62. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago (edited)

    Tim Scott: Radical left sending ‘sinister’ messages on race

    https://thehill.com/homenews/race-politics/4271377-tim-scott-radical-left-sinister-messages-race/

    TIMMMMMYYYYH!

    #RaceCardBro

    1. Sevo   2 years ago

      The assclown turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
      turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        TIMMMMMYYYYH!

        1. Sevo   2 years ago

          turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
          turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit, a TDS-addled asshole and a pederast besides.

        2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Yeah, you're definitely mentally handicapped.

    2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      You've definitely got a crush on Tim Scott. How cute, Pluggo. I thought your type was usually much younger.

      1. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

        Buttplug's a DNC slave catcher, rounding up errant negros and bringing them back to the party's vote plantation.

  63. sarcasmic   2 years ago

    Don't know if there are any other fans of The Kills here, but I just got an email saying they're going on tour! Woo hoo! Definitely going!

  64. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >> "Women and non-binary people have been urged to refuse paid and unpaid work on Tuesday, including household chores,"

    none of that shit ever gets done right anyway. fetch me a turkey pot pie.

    1. damikesc   2 years ago

      Non-binary people won't do paid OR unpaid work?

      But who will get my coffee at Starbucks?

      1. BYODB   2 years ago

        If they are non-binary, does this include biological men? If so, what exactly are they fucking talking about?

      2. Dillinger   2 years ago

        hopes are high this move will stop you from purchasing starbucks ick

    2. Zeb   2 years ago

      What about all the women who out-earn most men? That's one of the dumbest parts about this whole "wage gap" thing. The fact that total per capita compensation is lower for women than men says nothing about any individual's situation, yet we still get people saying stupid shit like "as a woman I get paid less" ,etc.

      1. BYODB   2 years ago

        There are a ton of things one could say about that, but going forward I think my go-to when people say this will be 'maybe it's not because you're a woman, but rather because you are entirely ignorant of statistics'.

        Ok, no, I'm not rude enough to say that to their face (most of the time) but I'm surely going to be thinking it.

  65. mad.casual   2 years ago

    Speaking of unpaid labor.

    Anna Khachiyan @annakhachiyan · Jun 23, 2020
    Women who say men are trash have clearly never had one torrent something for them

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

      I posted that one yesterday. I'm already in my bunk over this woman's tweets.

  66. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

    This is a strange caricature of the immigrants coming here. Do we have evidence that America-hating jihadist-sympathizers are trying to get into the country en masse?

    That's probably difficult to tell. But for the infinitesimally small number of journalists that have actually gone to the border and dug into exactly WHO is crossing, there are significant numbers of people from sub-Saharan Africa and other places that are coming into South America with the intent of traveling north and entering the US.

    Personally, I don't think the illegal immigration problem is a primary source of Jihadist thinking-- the American University System holds that up fairly well.

    But unfortunately, without having any HANDLE whatsoever on the Southern Border, you simply don't know what you don't know.

    1. BYODB   2 years ago

      We don't know, and by gum we refuse to find out!

      1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

        There is no voter fraud?

        Do you mind if I take a look?

        Yes I DO MIND! *slams door shut*

  67. JesseNM   2 years ago

    True Libertarian Patriots,
    Did you read the latest news from our esteemed media outlet, Conservative Treehouse?

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/10/23/border-jihad-customs-and-border-patrol-issue-warning-for-hamas-palestinian-islamic-jihad-and-hezbollah-arrivals-posing-as-illegal-aliens-during-border-influx/

    Jihadists are POURING over the Southern border intent on creating terrorism inside the US and undermining our great country! That is why True Libertarian Patriots such as ourselves must insist that the government restrict immigration, build the border wall, deport all the illegals, and bomb Mexico to stop this grave threat to the nation.

    1. Dillinger   2 years ago

      ^^^ reads just like the "gay black G.O.Proud" poster used to.

      1. Zeb   2 years ago

        Or the mirror of Open Borders Liberaltarian or whatever that was called.

        1. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

          That was clever parody, this is just anger and rage at Jesse.

          1. Zeb   2 years ago

            Yeah, it is more of a personal attack, which I'm not a fan of. OBL was better executed, but there were a lot of strawmen being attacked there too.

            1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

              I miss Agile Cyborg.

              1. Zeb   2 years ago

                I've been doing my best to fill his shoes on another forum.

      2. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

        It's Buttplug or Sarc. Not sure which.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago (edited)

          I’d wager Sarc. No one else seems to have that level of hatred for Jesse. Pluggo hates us all, as does Jeffy, but Sarc has a special hatred for Jesse.

          1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

            I don't hate JesseAz. Though I do pity his family and coworkers. I didn't say friends because you are them.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              Right. You make a reply to him every chance you get, even when you're not the subject of his comment.

              1. sarcasmic   2 years ago (edited)

                You got that reversed.

                Oh shit! I thought you were being honest! You got me!

                1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                  You brought me up in multiple threads I hadn't even posted in the last few days buddy.

                2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                  Dude, you got JDS something bad.

            2. JesseAz   2 years ago

              Irony. CPS has never been called on me and my wife didn't leave me. Projecting again buddy.

          2. Sevo   2 years ago

            Jesse's called the lying pile of lefty shit on his BS more than most anyone.

        2. JesseNM   2 years ago

          What are you talking about? I am no sarcasmic and I am not Buttplug. I'm Jesse's brother here to show support for him as another True Libertarian who loves Donald Trump, the most libertarian president ever!

      3. Nobartium   2 years ago

        It's Jeffy.

        1. R Mac   2 years ago

          It would match up with his return from hiatus.

        2. Dillinger   2 years ago

          the parody writes better than the not.

        3. JesseNM   2 years ago

          What are you talking about? Are you referring to chemjeff? I am not chemjeff, I am Jesse's brother here to show support for him and our True Libertarian values against the forces of Marxist libtards everywhere!

    2. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Why does the left suck at parody so badly?

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        Because Sarc needs to sober up before attempting parody.

        1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

          Not me. Whoever it is they're not trying very hard.

      2. JesseNM   2 years ago

        It is sad, isn't it? They don't understand how important it is to promote True American values. When they try to mock us, they just come off as mean. When they criticize us, they are criticizing America! How could they be mean to America?

  68. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

    "If you hate America, if you want to abolish Israel, if you don't like our religion...if you sympathize with the jihadists, then we don't want you in our country and you are not getting in."

    Good idea.

    "Do we have evidence that America-hating jihadist-sympathizers are trying to get into the country en masse?"

    Yes, unless you want to quibble about how many is "en masse". One of them is actually a member of Congress.

    "Three-quarters of total immigrants are here legally"

    I suspect that's true only if you count those with bogus "refugee" claims and ignore those who have sneaked in and haven't had contact with immigration authorities. With the border wide open, how do we even know the number of foreigners here? You're pulling the denominator of your "three-quarters" out of your ass.

    "What exactly is "our" religion?"

    Christianity. But you know that.

    "45 percent are naturalized citizens. More than half of immigrants are proficient in English. About one-quarter blah blah blah blah..."

    Again, you falsely equate opposition to massive, out-of-control illegal entry with hostility to immigrants.

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

      “What exactly is “our” religion?”

      If your religion is that of secular humanism, you're going to have a difficult time if "our religion" changes due to a sudden spike in mass-migration from an area that has a different religion. Either you're being enriched or you're not being enriched. You can't have it both ways.

      1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

        “What exactly is “our” religion?”

        "Not killing other people for having a different religion than our personal one."

        That's "our" religion in the USA. We're not always perfect at it, but we've never had the issues England or Ireland had between the Catholics and Protestants, and we've certainly never had the issues the various sects of Islam have with each other and everyone else as well. And I'd by God and No God like to keep it that way.

      2. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

        The all-Muslim Hamtramck City Council on Tuesday banned LGBTQ Pride flags from being flown on all city properties, drawing criticism that the diverse city chose bigotry over inclusivity.

        I'm shocked, shocked I tell you, to learn that a bunch of Muslims would be intolerant to alphabet people! Whodathunkit!

    2. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

      That's pretty much a site wide categorization error, sadly.

    3. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

      One of them is actually a member of Congress.

      Only one?

  69. SRG2   2 years ago

    And now Jenna Ellis pleads guilty

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0WxgSXdEE

    1. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

      And what makes what she did worse than what Kevin Clinesmith did?

      1. SRG2   2 years ago

        Anyone stupid enough to ask the question in all sincerity wouldn't understand any intelligent and informed response. So I'll do you the favour of assuming that you're not sincere.

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

          Are you able to give an intelligent and informed response shrike? Please defend this instance of overcharging and why the prosecutor is going after such egregious crimes she keeps offering pleas with no proffer or no jail times and record expungement post probation.

          1. SRG2   2 years ago

            I'm still not shrike, you lying fuckwit.

            I won't defend overcharging in general, and I think once this is all out of the way perhaps Congress -and state legislatures can have an intelligent discussion on it. I have already suggested some judicial oversight. But it would be wrong to carve out an exception just for this set of defendants - which is really what you want.

            You only now give a shit about overcharging because it's your people's faces getting eaten by leopards, and further, even if she and the other convicts were not initially overcharged, you would still axiomatically deem them innocent because Trump.

            1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

              “We can reform the system once my enemies are in jail”

              1. SRG2   2 years ago

                I assume you're also one of those people who never gave overcharging a thought, nor all the other abuses of the justice system, until Trump and the Jan 6 rioters were affected by i

            2. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

              I won’t defend overcharging in general,

              Only when it suits your politics. Trump, J6, Proud Boys, etc.

              You only now give a shit about overcharging because it’s your people’s faces getting eaten by leopards

              Well this is also as I’ve talked about it for over a decade.

              But good try shrike.

              Guess I was right about you not having an intelligent or informational retort.

              1. SRG2   2 years ago

                More lying from you. I specifically stated in the discussion on Squidney that I was opposed to overcharging. I just have no sympathy for this crop of defendants. Leopards...

                Well this is also as I’ve talked about it for over a decade.

                Then you should have no problem providing a link to one of your posts here proving that.

                And I'm still not shrike, for all your lying about it.

        2. Sevo   2 years ago

          You could do us all a favor and fuck off, taking your entirely un-warranted arrogance with you, asshole.

  70. John Rohan   2 years ago (edited)

    New America’s count indicates that, over the last 22 years, 107 people have been killed by jihadists within the United States.

    That’s a strangely arbitrary number of years to measure by. Why exactly 22? Why not …. 23 years? That wouldn’t change that number of total deaths much would it? lol

    1. Dillinger   2 years ago

      um ... "New" America ... 9/12/01 -->

    2. mad.casual   2 years ago

      And, of course;
      133 Far Right Wing
      107 Jihadist
      17 Ideological Misogyny/Incel Ideology
      12 Black Separatist/Nationalist/Supremacist
      1 Far Left Wing

      Notable: Apparently zero trans people have been ideologically motivated to kill anyone between 9-12-01 and at least 07-18-23.

      Fun Fact: If you take all of the above rolled together it's half the Jan.-Oct. Avg. for Chicago, every year, for a decade. Even if you give FFnC to the fact that someone named Maricio Garcia or shooting up a Synagogue definitively constitutes Far Right Wing extremism, Far Right Wing extremism is less deadly every year, on average, than last *weekend* was in Chicago.

      1. John Rohan   2 years ago

        Trans people aren't officially recorded in any crime statistics. But we do know a transgender mass shooter killed kids at the The Covenant School in Nashville on March 27, 2023.

        1. mad.casual   2 years ago (edited)

          That was my point about Maricio Garcia and shooting up Synagogues. There are no “Incel Ideology” or “Black Separatist” Categories in any FBI UCR report and, even if there were, as we saw in a number of cases, there is no definition clear enough to stipulate whether a Black Islamic Nationalist shooting up a Synagogue is a Jihadist or Black Nationalist; or if a Far Left or Far Right Winger who shoots up an Asian Massage parlor is Right/Left or Misogynist.

          The hate crime categories and totals, especially the ones provided, are like the rules and points on Whose Line Is It Anyway? except much less funny. (In addition to the bullshit cherrypicking with regard to 22 yrs.) They are pretty plainly just making up bullshit and doing it in a slanted and dishonest manner.

  71. Anastasia Beaverhausen   2 years ago

    The irony is that many of the Hispanic immigrants into Texas and Florida, the vast majority being Catholic, have made areas far more Republican. Just look at the near-supermajority of right-wing Catholics on the Supreme Court to see what damage "our" religion is doing to the country.

    1. Sevo   2 years ago

      "...Just look at the near-supermajority of right-wing Catholics on the Supreme Court to see what damage “our” religion is doing to the country..."

      You can get your TDS treated, or you can continue being a TDS-addled shit; your choice.

  72. MatthewSlyfield   2 years ago

    Multiple Israeli victims appear to have been beheaded and burned alive.

    Not in that order they weren't.

  73. The Last American Hero   2 years ago

    We screen immigrants now to weed out Nazis and communists. We have for decades.

    1. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

      You mean, so that only Nazis and communists are allowed in?

  74. AT   2 years ago (edited)

    Friggin' HTML.

  75. AT   2 years ago (edited)

    > Do we have evidence that America-hating jihadist-sympathizers are trying to get into the country en masse?

    Um, actually, yes.

    Literally just found an article at Newsweek, NBC News, and Washington Examiner on point. I’m sure there’s probably some way to post them, but you all know how to use Google.

    > To which ideologies should immigrants subscribe?

    American ideology.

    When you sell your house and move into a new one, do you bring the trash in your garbage cans? No? So stop doing it to America.

    > What exactly is “our” religion?

    It used to de facto be Christianity.

    Now it’s de facto Flaming Homo/Transsexual Grooming Environmental Anti-Racist Racism.

    > But it is to say that we currently attract an awful lot of Christian, English-speaking, semi-educated immigrants and that at least some folks with sympathies for Hamas are homegrown.

    I say we trade them 10:1.

    We’ll take one Christian English-speaking semi-educated immigrant, but we also get to exile ten homegrown Hamas/Leftist/MAGA jerkasses. Start with those who have A) held political office; B) are self-proclaimed “journalists”; and/or C) work for public education at any level/capacity.

  76. Wally   2 years ago

    The competing ideology is that we should welcome people who, for whatever reason, want to burn down this country. Imagine the country as your personal dwelling. Do you invite in a stranger with a gas can and a lit zippo?
    Not even Egypt and Jordan want to welcome Palestinian refugees due to the risk of future violence. Ask Lebanon how that can go.

  77. NOYB2   2 years ago

    This is a strange caricature of the immigrants coming here. Do we have evidence that America-hating jihadist-sympathizers are trying to get into the country en masse?

    Yes. In fact, lots of America-haters come to the US because they like the money and power, and they hope they can hijack it for their purposes.

    To which ideologies should immigrants subscribe?

    The ideology expressed by the Founding Fathers and the US Constitution. In fact, immigrants swear an oath to that effect.

    What exactly is "our" religion?

    Effectively, Christianity. We are tolerant of the different denominations, as well as Judaism.

    I'm glad you asked.

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