New Net Neutrality Rules Could Threaten Popular Services
FCC Chair Jessica Rosenworcel has initiated a new rulemaking that would enact what are largely the same net neutrality rules tried back in 2016.

Net neutrality regulations have been dead for years. They should stay that way.
Unfortunately, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) has moved to reopen and relitigate the issue.
Net neutrality boosters believe we need strict laws to keep internet service providers (ISPs) from prioritizing, slowing down, or blocking specific types of content, such as an application or a website. Such rules were enacted in 2016, under the Obama administration. They were removed after Donald Trump's FCC chair, Ajit Pai, brokered a 2017 agreement with the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) to address potential harms caused by ISPs while simultaneously repealing strict net neutrality laws.
This was a good outcome. The FCC would serve as the expert on broadband, and the FTC would bring cases when consumers were harmed. Consumers got protection, and the FCC was prevented from adding another layer of bureaucracy (and from grabbing regulatory powers that Congress never granted it).
But now FCC Chair Jessica Rosenworcel has initiated a new rulemaking. It would enact what are largely the same net neutrality rules tried back in 2016.
A lot has happened since then. Since we last had this debate, Mark Zuckerberg went in front of Congress for the first time, the Cambridge Analytica story broke, we had the COVID shutdowns and the switch to online life, there was a riot at the Capitol, the Parler app was booted by its infrastructure providers, and we learned about the government's involvement in taking down lab-leak posts.
The law has changed and markets have changed, and yet the arguments for and against net neutrality have largely remained the same. Then as now, the strongest argument against the rules is that it puts services that people love under FCC scrutiny.
These new rules could, for example, put T-Mobile's Binge On package on the chopping block. This deal exempts YouTube, Netflix, Hulu, HBO, Sling, ESPN, SHOWTIME, Starz, and other content from counting toward the data cap on all T-Mobile phone plans. The FCC never liked this plan and might go after it again.
Cox Communications' "Elite Gamer" service could also be cut. This service is advertised to gamers who want quick reaction times from the Internet. Since 2019 Cox has offered this package for $15 a month, but it could face FCC scrutiny under these rules because it provides prioritized service.
Fortunately, net neutrality rules are not likely to survive legal scrutiny this time around, thanks to a 2021 Supreme Court decision.
In West Virginia v. EPA, the Court relied on the so-called major questions doctrine to make it more difficult for agencies to expand their power. Unless Congress has granted it explicit, clear-cut authority, the Court said, an agency cannot regulate a major economic or political issue.
This probably applies to net neutrality. Two Obama-era solicitor generals didn't equivocate in a recent legal brief on the issue, saying such FCC rules "will not survive a Supreme Court encounter with the major questions doctrine."
Just as the commission is facing a tougher court, it will also face a tougher court of public opinion. Net neutrality was meant to stop ISPs from limiting content. But several years after repeal, it feels like it's everyone other than ISPs that actually limited content.
While the companies were well within their rights to deny service, there was a dramatic cascade by infrastructure providers and platforms in the days just after the Capitol riot. When it came out that some organizing for January 6 had taken place on Parler, Google dropped the social network from the Google Play Store, contending that its lack of "moderation policies and enforcement" posed a "public safety threat." Then Apple dropped it too, and then Amazon Web Services and DigitalOcean cut ties with Parler as well, effectively taking the app off the web.
Just last year, Cloudflare, which provides various services to help websites perform better, dumped protection of Kiwifarms. (The online forum was blamed for a wave of harassment against trans activists, though this version of events has been disputed.) The site was immediately opened to cyberattacks, and like Parler, Kiwifarms also went offline.
It turns out half the Internet has a single point of failure, and it's called Cloudflare.
And although there is justified concern about the power of platforms, the real threat of censorship still comes from the government. In Missouri v. Biden, handed down on July 4, a federal judge basically blocked key officials in the surgeon general's office, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and the Federal Bureau of Investigation from contacting tech companies. Turns out that federal law enforcement has been using encrypted and self-deleting apps to communicate about "misinformation" and content removal.
When net neutrality was introduced, people feared that ISPs would become a major source of censorship. That hasn't happened. Why revive the rules now?
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The site was immediately opened to cyberattacks, and like Parler, Kiwifarms also went offline.
KF's main issue wasn't necessarily DDOS protection, even though Cloudflare provided that. Cloudflare technically owned the domain, as well, and it was KF's Tier 1 gateway. That's ultimately what knocked the site offline and forced it to go to various Tier 1s in Europe, getting knocked off of those thanks to Elliot Fong-Jones using his tech contacts from his Google days, and Sinseer coordinating a mass reporting effort to get it knocked off for violating provider terms. KF has its own proprietary DDOS protection.
It was on Tor for quite a while, but apparently found another Tier 1 provider for now because it's back on clearnet as of a few days ago.
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Ahhh. Thanks for the clarification here. I thought it was just that CloudFlare was providing their DDOS protection service, in addition to other services, for Kiwifarms.
I should have clarified further that Josh Moon, who runs KF, reported that one of the first things he did after Cloudflare blocked the site was getting control of the clearnet domain from Cloudflare; I guess that's how Cloudflare was able to actually block access to the site. Once that was acquired, it kicked off the Tier 1 whack-a-mole between KF, Fong-Jones, and Sinseer (who runs the DropKiwiFarms Twitter account) that's happened over the last year.
“ When net neutrality was introduced, people feared that ISPs would become a major source of censorship. That hasn't happened. Why revive the rules now?”
Because censorship of ANY speech in a public forum that isn’t breaking a law violates the constitution.
We should be welcoming the protection of our rights.
The first amendment only applies to the government.
"Congress shall make no law"
The inalienable right to free speech applies to every citizen, like every right does. Inalienable means that it can’t be sold, given or taken away.
We take our rights with us everywhere we go.
Of course the government can’t make laws that allow anyone to violate our rights.
There are Civil Rights laws which give individuals recourse against certain private entities who are found to be violating rights which the Constitution requires the Government to protect.
I don't know that anyone has tried to claim online censorship as a civil rights violation yet, but most of the legal energy around the issue is currently still working on getting some action around the government's involvement in directing so much of the political censorship which was exposed in the twitter files.
The policy they're looking to revive doesn't really protect anyone's rights from any threat that actually exists.
The regulations would apply only to ISP operations (and if it's just reinstating the 2014 "Open Internet Order" not even all of those), which aren't doing any significant amount of censoring in the 6 years since the same regulation was repealed, don't have monoply-level market shares, and are facing increasing competition from new tech like Starlink and fiber optic providers.
Meanwhile, companies like Coudflare, AWS, Apple, Google/Alphabet, and Facebook/Meta which do actually control a huge chunk of online speech and the vast majority of online advertising are exempt from "Neutrality" rules despite having been exposed to have been active in ongoing censorship (both self-motivated and Government directed) for years if not decades.
This policy would protect the public in much the same way as enacting a new drunk driving law which applied only to offenders between 9 and 13 years of age. Sure the targeted crime is serious, but it's focusing exclusively on a group that isn't part of the problem while ignoring those who are.
If these regulators actually found the principle at stake to be important, they'd be trying to apply it equally to all operations which make up the operating environment for online speech instead of just focusing on the portion of the system in which violations are both exceedingly rare and have always been addressed by other pre-existing laws when they have occurred. There's a reason why this particular policy is almost exclusively popular with the party which currently benefits from the ongoing censorship of the internet by the "platform" and other non-ISP operations, and it isn't because it'll actually make a dent in any of that censorship.
“ they’d be trying to apply it equally to all operations which make up the operating environment for online speech instead of just focusing on the portion of the system in which violations are both exceedingly rare and have always been addressed by other pre-existing laws ”
Right. We need to get behind free speech rights and oppose censorship. But something needs to be applied somewhere first to be applied equally elsewhere.
The internet is the town square today. Anyone who invites the public to speak is bound by their inalienable right not to censor them.
We can’t accept when anyone, government or private companies does so. All efforts should be made to expose and bring to justice all actions and actors who violate our rights.
"Right. We need to get behind free speech rights and oppose censorship. But something needs to be applied somewhere first to be applied equally elsewhere."
Why couldn't this rule be applied to facebook and youtube at the same time it's applied to Comcast and AT&T? Other than the dynamics of which companies are more closely tied to and providing funding for particular politicians/parties, I can see no reason why these regulations couldn't be constructed to apply universally from the beginning.
If it actually does have to start with some version of partial application, why start with imposing redundant and cumbersome (the set of rules they're looking to apply to ISPs were designed to manage government-enforced monopolies, and allow for the FCC to micromanage and dictate virtually every aspect of how the subject company operations are run including who they do or don't provide service to, what level of service is made available, and what they're allowed to charge for service) regulation on the sectors where violations are rare and have always been resolved through other existing laws in the past? Why not start with the sectors of the total "user experience" where abuses occur daily, if not hourly, and frequently leave the aggrieved parties with no meaningful recourse?
Try posting some of your holocaust-denial nonsense on YouTube and see whether it's your ISP or the platform that shuts you down, then ask yourself if you still feel protected in any way by a set of rules that's written to intentionally only apply to the latter while exempting the former.
"The internet is the town square today. Anyone who invites the public to speak is bound by their inalienable right not to censor them."
Newspapers invite the submission of letters to the editor. Are they under some obligation to publish absolutely everything that's submitted to them through that channel? If they don't (regardless of whether it's an issue of "can't" or "won't") publish every letter, then isn't that equivalent to censoring the ones that don't get amplified for anyone who cares to read them? Online publishing is different from physical publishing in terms of physical constraints, but server space and network bandwidth are still finite at some point.
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Yeah, well, we lost the whole election "irregularities" thing years a go, didn't we?
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Someone needs to explain to "antifa" what fascism actually is. Almost every self-proclaimed "antifascist" I know is also a "blue no matter who" voter who thinks that the word "fascist" refers to whatever impedes the "progress" of leftist authoritarian policy expansion. None can/will answer the question "if every increment of 'progress' necessarily includes an expansion of the size/scope of government, then doesn't that imply that the ultimate goal is a totalitarian system?", although at least one has described their ideal government as a "benevolent dictatorship" while acknowledging that nothing of the sort could ever really exist (but that doesn't mean it's not worth trying).
They don't even understand their own intellectual history; Lenin literally called for a "dictatorship of the proletariat," and Marcuse explicitly said that all movements from the Right needed to be intolerated because the threat of "fascism" was a "clear and present danger" that required full suppression of anyone who wasn't part of the leftist in-group (the whole deal with the Chinese Cultural Revolution and their neomarxist imitators in SDS and Weatherman was going on at the same time he wrote this, and it's not a surprise that their prescriptions were the same). Ibram Kendi's call for "anti-racist discrimination" is in the same vein, and it's not a surprise that the fuckhead "journalist" who got shot in Philly was pimping Karl Popper in his Twitter feed.
the point of net neutrality is to enable the regime to control what you say on the internet. Full stop.
As with most ideological policies, the actual objective is the literal opposite of the proclaimed intention.
I remember when I was pointing this shit out YEARS ago and it felt like no one was listening. In so many of these so-called "complex" systems, one can often find that single point of failure, or even just a couple of points of failure, and squeeze them. And if you think the Biden administration isn't on the phone to cloudflare on an hourly basis, you've got another thing coming.
And in fact, the Biden administration has been burning the midnight oil to wrangle these "cloud providers" into federal control.
There's an interview with their CEO out there somewhere, where he talks about DoD officials basically identifying the technology as a weapons asset.
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Turns out that federal law enforcement has been using encrypted and self-deleting apps to communicate about "misinformation" and content removal.
Yeah, 'turned out'... Who knew? Big surprise that one. I mean, no one really knew how deep the censorship was going.
“Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”
― Ernest Benn
This seems like it could use a bit of an update in the modern climate. I don't think they're still bothering with the "looking for trouble" step anymore, just re-defining "trouble" to mean whatever is currently an impediment to the current objectives of those holding power.
As long as they look like they’re doing something, that’s what counts. Fixing things that aren’t broken. Remember that power is an end, not a means. The whole point of having it is to wield it. Objectives? That is the objective.
With progressives the goal is an administrative state. They don’t much care what the rules are, as long as they're made by what they believe to be a dispassionate expert. Power is the objective.
I get a strong sense that destruction of private wealth is either a secondary or corollary objective for at least the leadership of the "progressive" movement. They couch it in talk about "eliminating inequality" or "fostering equity", but at the end of the day they know their methods very likely won't create overall prosperity, or maybe fundamentally can't lead to such an outcome and that the only remaining way to get everyone to an "equitable" situation is to impose as uniform a level of poverty as possible; although just as in Animal Farm, the leaders of the "revolutions" tend to go on to declare their own positions to be "more equal" than the rest.
In a comparison between the "serf" class and the aristocracy from Czarist Russia or Imperial China and the difference between the general public and High level Party Officials in the USSR and PRC, I'd bet the mortgage that the differential in living standard didn't really change all that much and that the only real difference is in which families found themselves in the privileged class vs the working class when the revolutions re-made those societies.
If the current FCC (or anyone else on the left, for that matter) really considers "Net Neutrality" to be such an all-important principle to protect individual users, why has every version of it focused exclusively on ISPs, or in the case of the 2016 "Open Internet Order", a subset of ISPs while exempting platforms?
They pretend to care by screeching endlessly about the need to protect users from hypothetical "abuses" by the companies that "own the wires" if one of those companies were to achieve something approaching monopoly power (something that's becoming increasingly difficult if not impossible because of the multitude of different kinds of physical infrastructure now used for that purpose) even going so far as to insist on the need to control all of them as if they already were monopolies, but make no attempt to touch the software platforms who achieved monopolistic market shares a decade ago. When the battle was raging over the issue of whether a cable ISP with a 7% market share might suppress a competitor's online advertising or some manner of "politically disfavored" content that the management found objectionable in 2016-2017, Facebook and Google collectively controlled 96% of all online ad distribution and along with twitter were quite active in preventing the online expression of any number of ideas which their managers and employees deemed to be offensive or inappropriate.
If the FCC truly wanted to protect users, they'd be looking to enact this kind policy governing every aspect of the internet use experience, or not at all.
Would it be verging into "tinfoil hat" territory to think that one of the major real motivations behind this newest round of hypocrisy by the Biden Admin is to try to bring force Elon's compliance with making Starlink available for on-demand use in aggressive military operations by Ukranian forces?
“Would it be verging into “tinfoil hat” territory to think that one of the major real motivations behind this newest round of hypocrisy by the Biden Admin is to try to bring force Elon’s compliance with making Starlink available for on-demand use in aggressive military operations by Ukranian forces?”
In a word: Nope. The Feds have a fairly long history of attempting to control or limit the media response in times of war or “military interventions,” and even, sometimes, during natural disasters. I have even seen such “suppression” at the local level on an occasion or two. Being given total access to media, for whatever purpose, would be a gift from heaven.
Yeah, well, if the federal government goes after these people, I don't have a problem with that. Live by institutionalized corruption, die by institutionalized corruption.
What's corrupt about a consumer service company choosing to offer a promotion which makes it possibly a bit less costly for many consumers to use that privately provided data service to access the content that they're likely to be wanting to view with that particular service/device?
Are the promotional offers which enable customers to get device upgrades for "free" (there's some conditions regarding duration of service maintained that come with the 100% subsidization of the new device purchases, but the contracts are clear about the terms which aren't particularly complicated) also some kind of "corruption"?
Nothing, as far as I know. Why do you ask? What does that have to do with anything I wrote? Is your native language not English?
Why would the idea of live/die by "institutionalized corruption" have any bearing on T-Mobile having a promotion shut down which allows consumers to stream content from virtually every major TV-streaming service essentially for free?
Do you think that the wireless carrier with the third largest subscriber base (out of four major competitors) in the US is somehow singularly benefiting from "institutional corruption"? Did they somehow cheat their way to second-to-last place?
I think all cellphone carriers, as well as the largest online services are benefiting from institutionalized corruption. These companies don't operate in anything remotely like a competitive, free market. They have used the government to create massive barriers to entry. Therefore, I don't have a problem if the government stomps on them. It's like Stalin executing high communist functionaries, or Louis XIV executing courtiers he didn't like.
They don't need the government to create barriers to entry in a business where even the smallest operators have to own (either by purchase or by construction) and maintain hundreds of $Millions worth of physical infrastructure.
Getting FCC licensing to operate in that space is trivial in comparison to laying thousands of miles of fiberoptic cable and/or erecting tens of thousands of relay towers in thousands of different cities across every state in the country just to become fifth place in a hypercompetitive market where the biggest operators can leverage their size and corporate synergies without having to even ask for any help from the government and the lower-cost segment is overcrowded with companies who rent and re-sell second-tier access to the infrastructure of the major operators.
Do you also think that FAA rules are the major barrier to entry for those looking to compete with the existing international airline operators (as opposed to the need to obtain $Billions worth of aircraft and assemble a workforce of tens of thousands of pilots, flight attendants, mechanics, gate agents, and logistics/office operations staff as well as access to routes in/out of already crowded major airports)?
Or maybe, like other countries, our internet providers could invest profits back into their service, building more bandwidth?
Do you think that they don't do that currently?
Why do we still have an FCC? Wasn't their original mandate to manage the public airwaves (a limited resource) in the public interest and now that there's an unlimited amount of bandwidth there's no need for these sons of whores to even exist?
For actual "broadcast" signals using analog carrier wave tech the bands that commercial radio recievers are made to tune into, the total bandwidth really isn't much more than it was 100 years ago.
"Digital Radio" which requires specialized receiver tech (I think most car units might now include that tech, but a lot of "pocket" or "headset" receivers don't) increases the amount of information which can be sent over that bandwidth, but would likely become a mess without some kind of organization coordinating frequency use within local areas; State/Local authorities could do that on the interior, of states, but in metro areas which span state lines (St Louis, Kansas City, Chicago, Portland, NYC, Philadelphia, to name several) there would need to be some kind of coordination. Since electromagnetic waves propagate across lines on maps without regard for the differentiation, that part of what the FCC does is arguably well within "interstate commerce".
That said, the modern FCC could easily reduce the scope of their activity by probably at least 50% (maybe 75-80%) without really allowing significant harm to be done, and the last 6 years of history would seem to have proven that the world can go on operating just fine without "Net Neutrality", or at least without the twisted version of authoritarian policy that the left tries to impose under that name whenever they gain control of that agency's managing board.
>>Why revive the rules now?
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Did they really just say the Jan 6 planning was done on Parlor…I thought it was common knowledge it was almost exclusively planned out on Twitter? Was there an update that I missed?
It wasn't Twitter, it was mostly planned on Facebook. But yeah, Parler simply got taken down because of precisely who was mostly using it, for its intended purpose.
When Parler was shut down, it was done based on the claim that the planning had happened on that platform; that claim was widely accepted within the tech world at the time, and might still be accepted as true now (the upper levels of tech operate in an extraordinarily narrow ideological/news silo, once something is reported on "motherboard", it's often accepted as indisputable). I know people who run with those circles who won't be convinced that Joe Rogan ever said anything about his Covid experience other than that Ivermectin (and the veterinary version at that) alone cured him almost instantly, because that's how vox misreported it; you could play them the actual recordings of Rogan saying that he asked his doctor to "throw the kitchen sink at it" and was put on 6 or 7 different treatments including human-dosed ivermectin and his symptoms cleared up in about 3 days and they'd tell you it was a fabrication.
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