Ban Teenagers From Social Media, Vivek Ramaswamy Says, Because Fentanyl
The Republican presidential candidate ignores the lethal impact of the drug policies he avidly supports.

During Wednesday night's Republican presidential debate, Vivek Ramaswamy described a meeting with the parents of Sebastian Kidd, an Iowa teenager who died in July 2021 after consuming fentanyl disguised as Percocet that he "bought…on Snapchat." As is often the case with Ramaswamy's comments, his take on Sebastian's death was a mixture of sense and nonsense.
The sense was Ramaswamy's recognition that substance abuse cannot be explained in purely pharmacological terms. The nonsense was his reflexive endorsement of the war on drugs, which is responsible for the circumstances that led to Sebastian's death.
"It is our job to make sure that never happens," Ramaswamy said. "But it's also our job to make sure that 17-year-olds don't turn to Percocet via Snapchat. We have to bring back mental health care in this country, not with pumping pharmaceuticals, but [with] faith-based approaches that restore purpose and meaning in the next generation of Americans."
Although Sebastian was "great on the outside," his father, Deric Kidd, told the CBS affiliate in Des Moines, he "went through a lot throughout his life, a lot of loss [and] a lot of pain….You saw the smiles and the laughter, and it was a joy to be around him. But I think he was trying to internalize a lot of things that he went through."
When it comes to troubled teenagers (or adults), Ramaswamy is right to emphasize the importance of "purpose and meaning," the absence of which contributes to unhealthy relationships with drugs. Contrary to his implication, religion is just one source of purpose and meaning, which also can be found through secular pursuits and interpersonal connections. But even a well-adjusted teenager who wanted to try Percocet simply out of curiosity could have met the same fate as Sebastian.
Instead of Percocet, a combination of acetaminophen and oxycodone in doses ranging from 2.5 to 10 milligrams, Sebastian got an unknown amount of fentanyl, a much more potent opioid. Before going to bed one night, according to his parents, he swallowed half a tablet, which proved to be a lethal dose.
The hazard that killed Sebastian is a familiar feature of the black market created by drug prohibition: Consumers do not know what they are getting. Unlike prescription analgesics or a bottle of liquor, illegal drugs are highly variable and unpredictable. In recent years, that danger has been compounded by the proliferation of illicit fentanyl, which nowadays shows up not only in powder sold as heroin but also in stimulants such as cocaine and methamphetamine. It is also pressed into tablets that resemble pain pills.
This development was driven by the economic incentives that prohibition creates. As a synthetic drug that does not require cultivation of opium poppies, fentanyl can be produced much more cheaply and discreetly than heroin. And because it is much more potent, it is easier to smuggle, allowing traffickers to pack many doses in small packages that are hard to detect.
Thanks to the spread of fentanyl, which made potency even harder to predict, illegal drugs are a bigger crap shoot than ever before, as reflected in record numbers of drug-related deaths. The government made that situation worse by restricting the supply of prescription opioids, which left bona fide pain patients to suffer needlessly while driving nonmedical users toward much more dangerous substitutes.
Unsurprisingly, Ramaswamy did not mention any of this, because it would implicate policies he supports in tragedies like Sebastian Kidd's death. When Univision's Ilia Calderon, one of the debate moderators, asked how he would "stop fentanyl brought into the country, mostly by U.S. citizens through ports of entry," Ramaswamy said the answer was to double down on a strategy that has failed for a century.
"We do have to seal that southern border," he said. "Building the wall is not enough. They're building cartel-financed tunnels underneath that wall. Semitrucks can drive through them. We have to use our own military to seal the Swiss cheese of a southern border."
The adaptiveness that Ramaswamy describes has always doomed efforts to "stop the flow" of illegal drugs, and it always will. Prohibition sows the seeds of its own failure by enabling traffickers to earn a hefty "risk premium," a powerful incentive that drives them to find ways around any roadblocks (literal or figurative) that drug warriors manage to create. Since the government cannot even keep drugs out of prisons, "seal[ing] that southern border"—a 2,000-mile stretch that can be crossed in myriad ways—may be a bit harder than Ramaswamy suggests.
As Calderon noted, "90 percent of fentanyl is seized at official border crossings, and 57 percent of the smugglers are U.S. citizens." Even if the government could create an impregnable barrier elsewhere, it could not monitor traffic through ports of entry intensively enough to make a serious dent in the fentanyl supply without imposing huge economic costs by disrupting trade and travel. And even if it accomplished that impossible feat, traffickers have alternatives, including water routes, the 5,500-mile border with Canada, and the mail, through which commercially viable quantities of fentanyl can be shipped in small packages, only a tiny fraction of which can be intercepted.
"US government agencies have made considerable efforts to interdict fentanyl and its precursors from entering the US market, but the combination of its small size and high value makes this difficult," Roger Bate notes in a 2018 American Enterprise Institute report. "Mexican gangs and Chinese criminal enterprises find it easy to hide the products through a variety of transit methods."
Even if the U.S. government "managed to stop 100 percent of direct sales to the US, enterprising dealers will simply sell into nations such as the UK, repackage the product, and then resell it into the US," Bate writes. "Intercepting all packages from the UK and other EU nations to the US will not be possible." Furthermore, "whether or not drugs are available to the general public via the mail, drug dealers have domestic production and overland and sea routes and other courier services that deliver the product to the US."
Ramaswamy did not address any of these daunting challenges. But in addition to embracing the ever-appealing fantasy of stopping drug use through border control, he proposed a retail-level intervention. "If you're 16 years old or under," he said, "you should not be using an addictive social media product" like Snapchat.
Never mind that the age restriction Ramaswamy imagines would not have affected Sebastian Kidd, whose death he cited to justify the policy. And never mind that highly motivated teenagers would find ways to evade social-media age limits. Since any technology that facilitates communication can be used to arrange drug purchases, Ramaswamy's proposal is a pitifully inadequate solution to the problem he is describing.
"Why did [Sebastian] die?" Ramaswamy asked. "Because [the pill] was laced with fentanyl. That is closer to bio-terrorism, not a drug overdose. That is poisoning."
Ramaswamy wants us to know he is outraged by the dishonest practices of illegal drug dealers. But like nearly every politician of both major parties, he gives no thought to the policies that invite such potentially lethal fraud, because he is too busy promoting them.
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I seem to recall a time long, long ago when a thing called a "parent" determined what a child did or did not do.
But then, there were a lot of drugs in the sixties too.
There are also things called teenagers who generally aren't constantly supervised by their parents and who have a tendency to act out and in opposition to authority.
Unsurprisingly, Ramaswamy did not mention any of this
Did the Swamp-rat mention that he made his millions peddling worthless drugs?
>>But even a well-adjusted teenager who wanted to try Percocet simply out of curiosity could have met the same fate as Sebastian.
coulda been crushed by falling meteorites too.
Banning kids from the internet won't solve anything, but it would be fun. Let us just do it for the lolz.
Disappointing to see. Ramaswamy has been an enigma. He's been accused of just being a grifter who "just says what people want to hear" but I've seen him face down actual tough interviews and speak in a way that suggests deep familiarity with libertarian principles that are simply too inside baseball to fake. He has said the kinds of things that a libertarian should agree with, even if they don't necessarily have the appeal of normies.
All this said and yet, Ramaswamy will just throw in crap about sending the military to fight the cartels and ban TikTok. I can understand using China as a boogieman to get boomercon normies to pivot away from the current proxy war with Russia in Ukraine, but that's all it should be.
The other thing that drives me nuts is Ramaswamy is far too deferential to Trump. He doesn't have to like Trump or hate Trump, but if he's going to be a real candidate, he needs to serve his own ends and not defend Trump. There are legitimate points of criticism against Trump.
This cycle is a massive blackpill experience. The current administration has screwed this economy with inflation and reckless debt spending, and is bent on censorship, gun control, tax hikes and regulation. Meanwhile, the entire GOP candidate field is a mess for one reason or another (ranging from criminal charges to being an unrepentant regime change/warhawk). RFK says a few good things every now and again but his actual policies some iffy. And the few libertarian candidates I've seen so far spark no enthusiasm.
"There are legitimate points of criticism against Trump."
Yeah man, but talking about them here will turn you into some sort of leper!
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Plenty of posters here have criticized him and not had any problems. Maybe it's you.
Watching Vivek's transformation into a late night cable host in realtime.
Newsmax on line 1?
Maybe someone should go arrest the source of the problem (the person who laced and sold fraudulent goods). Just a thought.
End the drug war now. The WHOLE drug war.
Somebody should tell old Vivek about a newfangled technology called 'drones'.
I didn't read this article....but I agree. Social media has had so many negatives affects that I can hardly come up with a list of positive affects. I think the platforms should be FORCED to allow parent to accept or deny access. Don't get me wrong I think most would allow it, but then if the kids used it for nefarious purposes it would put more opportunities to prosecute the parents for the crimes of their children who used social media to get the job done.
Hey Goldilicks GorillaShit...
While legalizing ILLEGAL drugs will help dish out the Darwin Awards... By adding easier access to shit that one can overdose on, in addition to booze and coffee and water and high-speed car chases and scuba-diving and parachuting and food and salt and hyperventilating and Tide-pod challenges and huffing gasoline and glue, and butt-tons of OTHER shit that we can get our panties bunched up and hyperventilate about... You forgot fucking porn stars and fighting with other men over fucking Spermy Daniels! AND that Der TrumpfenFuhrer can SHOW US THE WAY to do it and screw it!
Probably not; but I can't remember the last case of a beer or smoke laced with fentanyl so that makes a far better point than trying to stop drug seeking, naivety, and stupidity. All requirements of learning instead of dictating.
Whack that strawman! Whack him good! Do you actually do anything else?
There are two big arguments for drug legalization. The ethical argument is that adults have a right to choose what chemicals they want to introduce into their bodies, whether it's to treat some medical problem or just because they like getting high. A more pragmatic argument is that drugs produced and sold legally will be much safer. Drugs cooked up in an industrial lab by trained technicians who take things like consistent dosing and avoiding contamination seriously are going to be a lot less risky than drugs cooked up in someone's garage by a guy who got his chemistry degree from the University of My Cellmate.
As for drug-seeking behavior, stupidity, etc, legalization won't fix that. But prohibition sure as hell hasn't fixed it either and I see no reason to believe it's ever going to.
Yeah, odd how you never hear about a guy chugging a beer only to be rushed to the hospital when it turned out to be Everclear. Almost as if clear labeling and consistent quality standards make things safer...