E.V. Summer Road Trips: Are We There Yet?
Not unless you want to get stranded in the heat trying to find a charging station.

Since entering office, President Joe Biden's administration has prioritized green energy, including electric vehicles (E.V.s), as a means of combating climate change, apportioning tens of billions of dollars to incentivize E.V. purchases and the development of E.V. infrastructure.
This summer, Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm undertook a road trip across four Southern states, driving an E.V. to promote the administration's efforts. But despite its intent, the trip showed many of the issues with the concept of an E.V. summer road trip.
According to J.D. Power's 2023 Electric Vehicle Consideration Study, 61 percent of shoppers are now "overall likely" to consider buying an electric vehicle, a modest increase over previous years. But among those who would not consider an E.V., 49 percent cited a lack of charging station availability as their primary reason. While "most EV owners will say charging is one of the greatest benefits of ownership, because 85% of it is done at home," said Stewart Stropp, J.D. Power's executive director of E.V. intelligence, "it's the exceptional use case—like a vacation road trip—that's holding shoppers back."
According to a separate J.D. Power study in August, "owner satisfaction with charging is declining, even as the number of charging stations grows." Specifically, it found that "crowded charger locations extend wait times, and frequent downtime can make it hard to find a working location to begin with."
Even when chargers are available, the experience has challenges. While many E.V.s currently on the market have battery ranges roughly equivalent to how far a car can go on a tank of gas, the experience of fueling up still differs. Motorists accustomed to filling up a tank in five minutes may experience some growing pains when even the fastest public chargers can take as much as an hour or longer to charge an E.V. to 80 percent. (Like smartphones, most E.V. batteries are recommended to stay between 20 percent and 80 percent).
All of these issues were present on Granholm's trip: According to NPR's Camila Domonoske, who accompanied Granholm, the convoy struggled in places to find enough functioning chargers. In a suburb of Augusta, Georgia, the secretary's team found a station with four chargers, of which one was broken and the others were occupied. So a staffer "tried parking a nonelectric vehicle by one of those working chargers to reserve a spot" for Granholm, a maneuver which "boxed out" a family with a baby. (And yes, there were nonelectric vehicles along for Granholm's electric car promotional tour.)
Granholm's team experienced that level of difficulty even though "the secretary's trip had been painstakingly mapped out ahead of time to allow for charging," such as picking hotels with chargers and mapping the fastest chargers for midday stops.
And range and charging time aren't even the only issues for an electric summer road trip. According to Automotive News, analytics company Recurrent found that E.V.s experience "significant declines in range" at higher temperatures. In temperatures over 90 degrees, the company found an average of 5 percent reduction in range, but at 100 degrees, some vehicles registered as much as a 31 percent drop. That means even more time spent sitting around in the scorching heat waiting to be able to keep driving.
Notably, the southern U.S. experienced a record heat wave this summer, with temperatures over 100 degrees stretching from California to Florida that lasted for weeks in some places.
Clearly, E.V. technology has made impressive leaps and bounds since Nissan introduced its Leaf, with a 100-mile range, for the 2010 model year. But it's not quite there yet for the summer road tripper. And federal policy should recognize that fact by not using taxpayer money to incentivize the purchase of technology that doesn't yet meet consumers' needs.
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Since entering office, President Joe Biden's administration has prioritized green energy,
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Do you think Joe is an engineer?
Not sure, but we do know that Ketanji Brown Jackson is not a biologist.
>>“green energy”
Popeye cartoons explain everything.
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Green refers to the color of the money going to his buddies
And the Big Guy's 10%.
"And federal policy should recognize that fact by not using taxpayer money to incentivize the purchase of technology that doesn't yet meet consumers' needs."
But once it does, baby, incentivize away!
I had the same thought, "WTF, are we cheerleading for corporate welfare now?!?"
It's Reason. Transportation central planning is even more libertarian than smoking weed and having ass sex with a Mexican behind a food truck in Reason-world.
So it is a bad idea to ban ICE cars.
Well, they mean well, but possibly. If the science supports it.
If Cubans can keep cars working for sixty years, so can we.
Need the givermint to build more charging stations. And while they're at it, mandate that they charge to 100% in under 5 minutes.
Problem solved!
Not addressed is where the country is going to get the electrical energy, in a grid that barely keeps up with current demand, to power all these EVs.
There isn't the open space to put in enough solar panels and windmills to produce what will be needed, which will only be provided when the sun is shining, and the wind is blowing.
And most people will be charging their cars at night.
California addresses it, nagging us with kids on TV to tell us to use less power between 3 and 7 PM, to "keep California golden." Even though that's when people get home, and 3-4 PM is the hottest hour of the day.
And while they're at it, send some of that sweet corporate welfare to Chargepoint, my stock value is in the crapper. I was SURE these Marxists were going to make that one pop. Turns out, I suck at stock picking.
Even with plenty of reliable chargers, battery powered EVs will suck for road trips which will require hours of waiting around for something that takes minutes in a liquid fueled ICE car.
I pick the gas stations I use based on how fast their pumps deliver fuel. I'm not about to wait around for 2 hours (or even 30 minutes) every few hundred miles on a long trip. Or more frequently if you need heat or AC.
I haven't figured out why they don't just mandate wind turbines on top of the electric car. As you drive forward, the turbine would spin and charge the car. You could essentially drive forever.
DO I HAVE TO THINK OF EVERYTHING, PEOPLE?!!
Or just put bigger wheels on the back.
Congress needs to repeal the laws of thermodynamics right now!
LMAO..... You've got to be the best 'environmental' scientist around :)... Humorously; With the amount of 'science expert' they show that wouldn't even be joking.
I will be the first person with a youtube channel called "EV Overpass Fails."
Just mandate better low-friction ball bearings on the wheels, and mandate a sail on top of the car, and mandate no engine at all. Problem solved.
Don't forget carbon fiber wheels to lower rolling resistance and weight! Plus pedals for everyone, because sometimes the wind doesn't blow. Maybe a convenient spot to tie up a horse somewhere on the exterior bodywork.
E.V. Summer Road Trips: Are We There Yet?
Even if they charged, miles per second, on par with refueling ICEs or even instantaneously, you’re still dragging around 40-50% more mass than pure ICE vehicles for the longest of trips (and, typically, using the least torque-efficient engines when hauling and towing is the most likely).
Also, with regard to:
According to J.D. Power’s 2023 Electric Vehicle Consideration Study, 61 percent of shoppers are now “overall likely” to consider buying an electric vehicle, a modest increase over previous years.
This would conflict with your source, which you blatantly lied (intentionally or not) about and said the opposite of what they concluded, two weeks ago.
twothree weeks ago.ICEs or even instantaneously, you’re still dragging around 40-50% more mass than pure ICE vehicles for the longest of trips
What they need to do is figure out some way to fill all those battery cells with some kind of energy that drops in weight as they deplete the energy stored within them.
Technically, batteries do weigh less when discharged, (but not by a lot).
While many E.V.s currently on the market have battery ranges roughly equivalent to how far a car can go on a tank of gas, the experience of fueling up still differs.
Considering that, of the 20 cars listed in your link, only 2 met or exceeded the EPA's median range for ICEs (in 2021), the difference between expectations and experience is probably on lying dumbasses like you.
My Infiniti Q50 went 540 miles on its last tank, with the A/C on, and still had two gallons left when we filled up.
and still had two gallons left when we filled up.
That's the kind of shit my wife (now ex) used to pull.
*gets in car she mostly drives, starts driving down the road. Notices gas tanked pegged below 'E'*
Me: When was the last time you put gas in this?
Her: I dunno! *continues scrolling on phone*
Every wife does this.
Concur.
I drove it for the long distance trip, and my wife filled it up after. Sorry you guys don’t have the perfect wife, like I do.
Did you get “her” from Thailand?
"Girls" swim team.
Nope. She’s Cis-female all the way. Thank God.
Yes, adopt their terminology.
Fresno, Ca.
Fun fact: full size Teslas now weigh more than some models of the hated Ford F-150.
Yeah, but chicks think you care about the environment, AND that you're rich.
Define "chick".
Young and stirs up something I haven't felt in a long time - but even if she wouldn't laugh in my face, she'd want to talk afterwards - but lacks life experience, her education was probably a bad joke, and what she'd want to talk about puts me right to sleep.
True for anything but a Tesla.
Tesla health and safety employee at headquarters, looking at screen: Hmm, VIN # JFK48127D7CV03481209DJF
*delete*
Wow:
“Tesla reserves the right to deactivate Supercharging capability on any vehicle we believe would be unsafe. If a vehicle is found to have been modified to enable Supercharging and/or fast-charging through third parties, Tesla may take legal action and seek compensation.”
Not just, “You run your own risks of picking through our trash.” but literally, “We will sue you for supporting a product we refuse to support.”
You won't own anything and you'll be happy.
Let's propose covering every roadway in the US with overhead wires and attach trolley poles to every EV. Problem solv-ed.
Look, we laid a transatlantic cable across the OCEAN in 1850. 1850! What's so hard about putting a really long extension cable on every car? No need for that kind of infrastructure.
https://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/2017/01/get-horse-americas-skepticism-toward-first-automobiles/
Yeah, but was the government dictating that you put down your own horse and buy one of these horseless carriages?
Even at that, for 90% of horses, the Model T would be a trade up by virtually every metric. Whereas, as indicated above, the best 10% of EVs are median, at best, compared to ICEs on a number of metrics.
And when the technology gets to the point that it's the case with EV's, we can do what our great-grandparents did 100 years ago, and allow market forces to work, without government mandates.
Right. Not to excuse the mandating one way or the other but the analogy is, by several dimensions, backwards. We are, rather more literally, being mandated to put down our horseless carriages and adopt more carbon-neutral horses where possible and, iteratively where possible, put down our horses, supposedly, in favor of more carbon-neutral modes of transportation.
Can't we just raise the gas taxes to 10 bucks a gallon, and build more trains? Then everyone will take the train because it is cheaper!
'While "most EV owners will say charging is one of the greatest benefits of ownership, because 85% of it is done at home," said Stewart Stropp, J.D. Power's executive director of E.V. intelligence, "it's the exceptional use case—like a vacation road trip—that's holding shoppers back."'
Do people who rent of otherwise not have a handy plug at a reliable parking spot hold shoppers back? How about living in areas with frequent power restrictions or outages? And anyone who can only afford one car but needs it to perform more than just in-town commuting?
The US EV 'system' is designed to maximize the amount of subsidies per EV owner. Whatever JD Power says about barriers is silly.
First - gotta get a job at a company that benefits from wrangling max subsidies itself - most likely for managers/execs not plebes. And that targets that type of employee.
Second - gotta buy a house in a suburb where a lot of people from those companies work - so the town itself can get political pressure/connections to build out 'errand' type charging stations (shopping centers, churches, etc)
Third - now you can get the direct subsidies for buying the EV car. But mainly if you are high enough income to buy a car for that limited purpose.
This isn't a free market system. And obviously its not a simple infrastructure buildout for vehicles. It's a lifestyle subsidy with strong social networks. Perfect for - bundling political donations and making sure the critter keeps the subsidies going.
E.V. Summer Road Trips: Are We There Yet?
Hahaha. No. Charging stations /EV
South Korea – 0.47
Chile – 0.34
Mexico – 0.30
Indonesia – 0.25
Netherlands – 0.22
South Africa – 0.19
China – 0.17
…..
World Average – 0.12
……
US (#27) – 0.06
.....
India - 0.04
Our EV infrastructure is for commuters to their company parking lot. That’s likely all it will be for the next decade or two.
That said – EV’s aren’t a ‘solution’ to anything. And how did Mexico build out their infrastructure so much faster than their fleet of EV cars apart from corruption?
Every single one of those selfish EV owners should be taking the bus.
That would certainly be cheaper for taxpayers.
In Mexico, you can just put the plug in your EV and clamp the wires onto a handy powerline with jumper cables on the other end of the cord. It's totally OK... Just have a look at the wiring in any shantytown for tips on DIY charging stations.
here's an idea: Red Barchetta.
Why the rush?
nobody told Brandon it's a Farewell to Kings
Sounds fly by night to me.
No, that's the "immigrents".
Why, why, Zed?
Zed's dead, baby. Zed's dead.
Says the gimp.
We've got to stop talking about EV range. The issue is charging times and availability. I'd drive an EV with a range of 200 miles if it could be charged as readily and quickly as my hybrid can be refilled.
Right now, the sweet spot is plugin hybrids, not EVs.
It's not just range its also a lot of other factors.
An EV the size of a Ford Explorer costs more *JUST* in electricity per mile than gasoline. The cost of the costy-to-drive EV is also more. The horsepower is far less on EV too (torque is better though).
It's no secret the EV market is centered around 4-wheeled rice burners that make gasoline rice-burners in comparison look big. There just isn't as much POWER in an EV.
Plug-in hybrid: best option if you have only one car. But if it's a two car family it might be more effective to have one pure EV and one pure ICE rather than two hybrids, considering how much of the cost is in the drive train.
Goody for you. If I had to find a filling station every 200 miles, I would sell the car and buy one with decent range.
This is a retarded Mott-and-Bailey/Bait-and-switch/3-card-Monty.
Rather than a gas station on every corner or even just one in every town, you’re mandate-wishing for a charging station on every corner… and hotel parking lot… and restaurant parking lot… and municipal parking lot… and bank parking lot… and every garage… and all additional the infrastructure and generation to support it all…
If the ideal, unrestrained by economics and physics, is infinite range with zero charging or refueling, you're distinctly moving away from both (again, unrestrained by economics and physics).
In the long run, in any kind of emergency the range of EV's will become effectively ZERO - because you won't be able to find a charging station that is getting enough power from the grid to operate.
When a politician who pushes wind and solar power instead of nuclear or fossil-fueled plants, or who opposes massive increases in the power distribution grid, wants to put you in an EV, he wants to somehow profit from selling you and EV that you won't actually be able to run. Or to make sure that the only political rallies you can attend are the one that he arranges a bus to bring you to.
"Not there yet." Or ever, maybe. To be fair EVs have not been designed for "summer road trips!" I think EVs are great for urban commuting and shorter trips when you will be coming back home to recharge overnight. Although EVs may not be "carbon neutral" they almost certainly avoid putting air pollutants into high population density regions during temperature inversions which is probably a very good thing. The electric power generation system may include gas- and coal-burning stations, but they are almost certainly better controlled than thousands of individual internal combustion engines on the road. When everyone can afford to own both an EV for local city use, and an ICE for "summer road trips" then a near-ideal situation will exist. Until then, politicians doing stupid photo ops that illustrate the exact opposite of what they intend is just - stupid ...
If you don't drive an EV for the equivalent miles you would an ICE, you'll never pay off the CO2 deficit created by the manufacturing process required. The environment would better off if just own/drive the ICE version.
Caught a clip of Joe Rogan pointing out how charging stations are perfect places for criminals to hang out. Lots of stranded rich people to rob, or worse.
Oh man, I'd never even considered that angle.
“it’s the exceptional use case—like a vacation road trip—that’s holding shoppers back.”
No, it’s charge times, with a little of the vacation road trip issue mixed-in.
There’s this Freudian concept called the “Pain Pleasure Principle” that has been adopted and modified by UI/UX Designers, Marketers, Sales Weasels, etc. Anyway the idea is that people make choices to either increase pleasure or to decrease pain. All the early adopters of EV did it for ideological reasons i.e. it increased their pleasure by being “good.” All of the rest of the (sane) world will have to be won over by a decrease in their pain.
Heat during summer road trips? How about cold during winter getaways? Like the couple who tested a Tesla from Orlando to Wichita and ended up having to recharge 6 times in one day. “The battery would drain faster than it would charge.”
Okay we need a remake of Canonball run with all but burt Reynolds charecter in an ev.
All the cannonball run records were broken during the pandemic. Empty highways. Look it up.
https://www.expressandstar.com/news/motors/features/2020/06/30/how-the-coronavirus-pandemic-caused-cannonball-run-records-to-tumble/
Former record holder Ed Bolian now runs a YouTube channel called VinWiki, and is widely considered the go-to voice for Cannonball Runs. He recently exclaimed: “Consider that it took six years and dozens of extremely well-prepared attempts for anyone to beat [his record of] 28 hours and 50 minutes, in the span of five weeks it was just beaten seven times.”
The secret, besides less traffic? No time wasted refueling/recharging:
As it stands, the “official” record – or as official as this wholly unofficial competition can be – is held by Fred Ashmore with a time of 25 hours and 55 minutes. That’s an average of 108mph. His story is particularly fascinating because he completed the run in a rented Ford Mustang GT, all alone. He ripped out the interior and fitted large fuel tanks that meant he could complete the trip on one stop. A friend had an industrial fuel pump on a pickup truck and met him at the side of the road.
I wonder what his rental charges were....
Woulda been cheaper to buy one.
Here's the thing missing from all the bitching about what you can't do with 'green tech' - as far as the people who push it are concerned, you don't *need* to do those things. And thus shouldn't. For the good of the planet.
That there is no way to take a long road trip is *good* in this paradigm - you don't need to do so. Stay in your apartment and watch YT videos about the place you want to go.
Heck, you don't even *need* a car - you can take the light rail to the places the government has decided you need to go to. What more than you need except to eat the bugs, live in the pod, and own nothing. Because you'll be 'happy'.
That's a conspiracy theory. You won't be living in a pod, you'll only be sleeping there.
Yeah, I don’t think our betters’ future plans for us include summer road trips.
I’m not eating crickets until they are humanely raised. Each cricket should have at least one cubic meter to hop around in, and one thimbleful of fresh water, changed daily, by a cricket attendant paid a living wage.
But most crickets are packed in so tight, they turn into cannibals:
https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/big-cricket-2
According to Bachhuber, crickets have only a few basic requirements for feeling safe and at home: an ambient temperature that hovers between eighty and ninety degrees Fahrenheit, ninety per cent humidity, and some cardboard or egg cartons to climb on. Overcrowding can cause stress—the sign to watch out for, Bachhuber said, is cannibalism—which is why he houses no more than four thousand insects in each four-foot-square trough.
Did anyone point out that Jennifer Granholm's EV was part of a convoy that included gas powered vehicles?
OT: New Mexico Attorney General says he won't defend the state from lawsuits regarding the Governor's Executive Order.
https://apnews.com/article/new-mexico-governor-guns-albuquerque-lujan-grisham-3b23b6656f6555950c1a65b62d98a5d0
Insurrectionist!
Or the next governor.
If he puts her in prison I'll vote for him.
At least with an EV you always have a free hand to scratch your vagina.
She has personal assistants for that.
Recurrent found that E.V.s experience "significant declines in range" at higher temperatures. In temperatures over 90 degrees, the company found an average of 5 percent reduction in range, but at 100 degrees, some vehicles registered as much as a 31 percent drop.
This should work well in New Mexico and Arizona.
The Tesla proprietary (until now) charging network has the charging problem licked (as long as you don't mind sitting in your car watching Netflix for 20 minutes).
I just did a road trip through northern Minnesota and the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, then St. Louis, Louisville, Wheeling and NYC. Never a problem charging.
But Jennifer Granholm insists on driving an Ford, which until now hasn't been able to take advantage of the Tesla chargers. Ford is a UAW shop. Musk's factories are non-union, which is why the Biden administration has tried its best to pretend Tesla doesn't exist (and why we have charging horror stories like this).
All of the horror stories involve cars that use the old Level 2 chargers (got 6 hours?) or the Biden IRA-mandated and soon to be obsolete CCS chargers which, as Granholm learned, are vastly inferior and frequently out of order. (Biden refused to include Tesla chargers as part of the IRA - again, they hate Musk and his aversion to unions.)
EV's are not doomed. But everyone who owns one is eventually going to be charging it either at home or through Musk's charger network.
This.
Is Musk building power plants (NOT dependent on sun and wind) and beefing up the power lines from the power plants to his charging stations? Unless he's doing that, in a few years on a hot summer day, it won't be just one charger out of four broken, it will often be _all_ of them down because when everyone turned their air conditioners on, the power company had to black out half the state.
I have nothing against EV only the gov-gun “armed-theft” and gun-poking monopoly threatening (banning) used to FORCE the product onto the people.
Just because people don’t want to buy your crap and your BS sales pitches doesn’t mean it’s right to pull out ‘guns’ (gov-guns) and force a sale.
Wonder what it will take for my old condo complex to convert our parking to handle EV chargers. Raise everyone's rent? Raise owner's monthly fee, which will raise rent? Just charge a huge one-time fee to owner, which will raise rent?
Any way, my rent will go through the roof to pay for charging stations I don't plan to use because I'm going to keep my ICE until it absolutely falls apart.
Some localities already mandate it. Others have it in the building code.
Crooked Salesmen packing 'guns'.
My neighbor installed a quick charger in his garage. It only cost as much as my gas powered vehicle. Luxury to not have to wait a few days for the 110 to do the job.
A typical home (or gas station) power entrance does not carry enough power for a fast charger. You need an upgrade to a power entrance like a factory or a Walmart superstore, at least. That's costly, but often it can't be done in a residential neighborhood without running higher voltage and current power lines to somewhere miles away. That will cost a lot more.
Pro-Tip: Many states (check your local statutes!) have no law against a normal car parking in an EV charging station spot. As these are increasingly taking up prime real estate in parking lots - feel free to remember, depending on your state, it's not like a handicapped spot. If you're struggling for a convenient place to park, and one of these stations are open - just go ahead and park there.
EV drivers are used to waiting at this point.
It pays to be a dick
/at
Frankly, I consider the positioning of the charging stations to be the actual dick move. Stick them in the absolute furthest places of the lots/garages. They're environmentalists. They won't mind walking. Walking is good for mother gaia's cholesterol or whatever.
Half the time they're just sitting there in their cars anyway. Why throw away storefront parking for jerks who just sit in their car ("watching Netflix" as one person put it), when people who are actually going into the store could have that spot instead?
If you're going to virtue signal with your EV, why not add a little real sacrifice to it.
+100000000…. Though it will be of no surprise when the ‘virtue signalers’ turn to ‘guns’ (gov-guns) to change that as they already have over and over and over again. The gun-power enforcement over those ‘icky’ people making them feel superior/significant is really the very foundation of their whole existence. For it is far easier to use governments 'guns' to feel significant than it is to actually have to *EARN* it.
This is actually how it is at our HyVee that installed them. A long walk from employee parking.
In defense of the decision, it's generally cheaper to dig up the least amount of your parking lot by running those high-voltage lines to the parking spots closest to the building.
But yeah, from the perspective of the rest of us customers, it's a cheap-dick move.
Electric cars are good for a short commute to work, or zipping around town to pick up the groceries. Especially in the uber-liberal CA towns that have better parking spots reserved for EVs. But for a road trip you definitely want internal combustion.
The only thing this stunt proved is that non-Telsa EVs have a charging problem. A private company has solved the charging issue by investing early and often in charging infrastructure. The Administration continues to ignore Tesla, the American global leader in EV because they are non-union.
I take road trips in my Tesla all the time. No need for pre-planning or sending out advance teams to save charging spots. Just punch in your destination and the car routes you efficiently, including charging.
Unless traffic changes on you. Friend of mine recently drove from Seattle to SoCal in her Tesla, and after the freeway she was on got closed due to forest fire concerns and she got re-routed, she had some serious concerns about being able to charge on her new route.
And even barring natural disaster, a Tesla still can't recharge as fast as I can put 500 miles worth of gasoline in my car.
I love the "I love sitting in my Tesla watching Netflix more than I love being at home watching Netflix or at my destination watching Netflix." crowd. Like the people with obnoxious amounts of piercings, they just advertise up front how much they love having others manage their pod-lives and their kids' pod-lives for them.
Even the amount of time it takes you and I to pump 500 mi. worth isn't based on any physical limits or risk analyses. It's based on the fact that 10 gal./min. is a nice, round number and pod people and their managers like nice, round numbers.
“The Administration continues to ignore Tesla”…..
WTF??? Do you think ‘the administration’ (gov-gun armed-theft and dictation) needs to decide and buy your groceries for you too?
If you were in any sense of the word patriotic you'd be insisting 'the administration' did STEAL and SPEND from any private company.
And there-in lies the very roots of this divided and angry nation. 'The Administration' destroying Individual Liberty (the USA) all over the place and playing Gods/Nannies to purchase what people never agreed to buy and STEALING from them to do it.
'Guns' don't make sh*t and the only tool in government toolbox is gun-force.
I did not read the comments, because I am sure they are angry and uninformed dribble. The governments attempts to push EVs on America are ridiculous, but it doesn't mean EVs aren't the future of transportation. As an EV enthusiast and libertarian, I will say there is a lot of room for improvement, which will only come with market demand, which means more EVs being sold.
My family took a trip from St. Louis to Detroit this summer with no problems. EV drivers must inform themselves first, and range is not as important as charging speed of the car and the charger itself. The one hiccup I had was at a charger that was only 70kw, so charging did take an hour, but at most stops it took less. We just planned our meals around charging stops.
The big roadblocks right now are access to chargers and batter recycling, but there are already improvements on their way. In fact, Tesla recently open sourced their superior charging platform, which means North America will probably move towards it, while Europe is stuck with the inferior government mandated CCS. Innovation takes time.
> Innovation takes time.
But we don't have time. Mother Gaia is already dead and Global Boiling killed 25 billion people on the planet during the 2023 apocalypse we used to just call "summer." We have to get people into EV's whether it makes any practical sense or not.
In the meantime, let's shut down all the fossil fuel plants, or make them effectively incapable of efficient operation. That'll help.
Remember: the cart comes BEFORE the horse.
Care to share the cost of your vehicle and cost of your 'fueling'? Or is fan-clubbing about what is possible dismisses any costs involved?
You do realize electricity isn't generated at the plug right?
I think taxpayer money should not be used to incentivize the purchase of technology. Full stop. This idea that once consumer's needs are met, federal money should be thrown at big companies is a hilarious take here at Reason. Outside the conclusion, the content of this article is pretty silly as well. The south doesn't have the infrastructure or inclination to support EV publicly accessible charges for long trips! Wow, what reporting. Totally surprising. I lived in TN for 15 years of my life and think the south should spend more money on education, if anything.
I live on the east coast and use my EV car to travel from DC to Philadelphia and NYC regularly. I'm pretty sure there are chargers at every plaza on the NJ and PA turnpike. In 40+ "road trips" I've quite literally never had an issue finding a charger.
If you mind eating a meal while your car charges or if you research and find no chargers on any future trips, don't buy an EV for road trips. Whether the federal government is subsidizing the purchase seems pretty irrelevant to me in the context of this article.