Google Isn't Intentionally Biased Against Republicans, Says Court
Plus: The real message behind DeSantis' abortion anecdote, midwives sue over Alabama regulations, and more…

Federal court dismisses RNC lawsuit over Google spam filters. A federal court has dismissed the Republican National Committee (RNC) lawsuit accusing Google of being biased against Republicans and reflecting this by marking RNC emails as spam. There are legitimate reasons why Gmail filters may have considered the emails spam and insufficient evidence to suggest the company acted out of deliberate bias or in bad faith.
The suit was filed in 2022, with the RNC accusing Google of intentionally or negligently "discriminating" against Republicans and attempting "to secretly suppress the political speech and income of one major political party." Google alleged that it did no such thing, and any increase in RNC emails being marked as spam was likely the result of things like users marking them as spam, emails being sent too frequently, or issues with the RNC's domain authentication.
In a ruling last week, U.S. District Judge Daniel Calabretta said it was a "close case" but the RNC hadn't "sufficiently pled that Google acted in bad faith."
The RNC "argues that the only reasonable inference for why its emails were labelled as spam is Google's alleged political animus toward the RNC," but "this is pure speculation, lacking facts from which the Court could infer animus or an absence of good faith," wrote Calabretta.
The judge also pointed out that designating certain emails as spam is the kind of content moderation protected by Section 230.
Section 230 "affords interactive computer service providers immunity from liability for decisions related to blocking and screening of offensive material, or for providing others with the technical means to do so," he explained, noting that "Congress itself has recognized the harm spam can cause in enacting the Controlling the Assault of Non–Solicited Pornography and Marketing ('CAN–SPAM') Act of 2003."
The RNC argued that its emails couldn't conceivably be considered spam since they were only sent to people who had subscribed at some point to their email lists. But "the fact that the RNC sent emails to individuals who requested them at some point in time does not undermine this conclusion," wrote Calabretta. He continued:
just because a user interacts with a company at one point in time does not mean that the user 'solicits' each and every email sent by the entity. Most individuals who use email are likely familiar with having engaged with an entity one time (such as by purchasing a particular product) only to have that entity send numerous other emails, many or all of which are no longer relevant or wanted. While a user may be generally able to opt out of those emails, an email provider such as Google may reasonably segregate those sorts of mass mailings (even though they were originally requested by the user in the legal sense) in order to ensure that 'wanted electronic mail messages' will not be 'lost, overlooked, or discarded amidst the larger volume of unwanted messages.'
It is clear from the Complaint that the RNC sends out a significant number of emails to individuals on its list. While it may be that some, perhaps many, users specifically wanted each and every one of those emails, Google could reasonably consider these mass mailings to be objectionable, just as it can for other email senders … Application of section 230 in this case, then, turns on whether the RNC has sufficiently pled that Google did not act in "good faith" when filtering the RNC's emails. While it is a relatively close case, the Court concludes Plaintiff has not sufficiently pled facts to establish that Google has acted without good faith. …
In this case, the RNC's allegation that Google acted in 'bad faith' does not rise above the speculative level. …
In short, the only fact alleged by the RNC to support its conclusory allegation that 'Google's interception and diversion of the RNC's emails, and the harm it is causing to the RNC, is intentional, deliberate, and in bad faith,' is the North Carolina State University study that expressly states there is no reason to believe Google was acting in bad faith, and the remainder of the allegations in the Complaint are inconsistent with such a conclusion. In light of the multiple reasonable explanations for why the RNC's emails were filtered as set forth in the Complaint, the Court does not find the RNC's allegation that Google was knowingly and purposefully harming the RNC because of political animus to be a 'reasonable inference.'
The aforementioned study did find that Gmail marked many more right-leaning candidate emails than left-leaning candidate emails as spam in new accounts created by researchers. But "the study itself does not attribute any motive to Google," noted Calabretta. It also found that all three email services (Gmail, Outlook, and Yahoo) tested seemed to have a political bias in their spam filters—albeit smaller and going the other direction for Outlook and Yahoo—and that the Gmail spam filter "responded significantly more rapidly to user interactions compared to Outlook and Yahoo."
You can read Calabretta's full ruling here.
It follows a finding from the Federal Election Commission (FEC) earlier this year that there was "no reason to believe" that Google parent company Alphabet used Gmail spam filters to try and thwart Republicans or benefit Democrats.
Mike Masnick at Techdirt points out that Section 230 isn't the only reason the RNC's claims failed:
The case could just end there. The claims are barred by 230, end of story. But, instead, the court decides to run through the actual claims anyway and explain why they still fail, even without Section 230.
Even if Google were not entitled to section 230 immunity, each of Plaintiff's claims would still be subject to dismissal because they are either not a claim upon which relief can be granted, or because Plaintiff has failed to establish it is entitled to relief.
Again, we've pointed this out repeatedly: even in the absence of Section 230, most claims that lose on 230 grounds would still lose, just that it would take longer and be more expensive.
FREE MINDS
Penny Hopper's story highlights danger of abortion bans. At the first Republican presidential debate, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis told a story about a woman named Penny who "survived multiple abortion attempts." DeSantis told this story as part of a convoluted answer to why he supported abortion bans. But far from being a warning about the horrors of the legal abortion industry, Hopper's tale is actually a cautionary tale about what people will resort to when abortion is banned.
"Penny is real and her last name is Hopper. But DeSantis failed to note key details from her remarkable story," The Miami Herald pointed out.
The person who tried to end Penny's life in the womb was not a doctor or even an illegal abortion provider — it was her father. And his effort to abort his daughter with a coat hanger took place almost two decades before the Supreme Court's seismic Roe v. Wade decision, which established a woman's right to an abortion.
While DeSantis' version of Penny's story honors life and a woman who survived a traumatic beginning, it also reflects the perils of a world where abortion is all but outlawed and women can be forced into dangerous, desperate alternatives.
More here.
FREE MARKETS
Midwives fight against overregulation in Alabama. A group of Alabama midwives and doctors are challenging state regulations that "have imposed a de facto ban on freestanding birth centers throughout Alabama, preventing three such birth centers from providing much-needed pregnancy care to their patients," as the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) puts it. The regulations in question come from the Alabama Department of Public Health (ADPH), which says that freestanding birth centers—many of which rely on midwives to deliver babies—must have a hospital license. "At the same time, ADPH has made it impossible for any such birth center to even attempt to obtain such a license, creating a dilemma that is both unlawful and unjustified," the ACLU says.
In a new lawsuit, a group of doctors and midwives allege that the ADPH lacks authority to promulgate such a regulation since birth centers are not hospitals, and that even if it does have the authority to require the license it does not have the authority to entirely ban midwife-led birth centers, which it has effectively done by not providing a path to licensure.
"The state of Alabama is making it difficult if not impossible for birth centers to survive," said ACLU of Alabama Executive Director JaTaune Bosby. "Obstacles and barriers erected by state lawmakers and agencies prevent individuals, like our clients, from helping their patients. More birthing centers are needed here. Midwives and doulas are needed here. Their services provide hope and will save countless lives."
QUICK HITS
• "A Texas National Guard member shot and wounded a man along the Rio Grande in the El Paso area Saturday evening, firing across the border into Mexican territory," reports The Washington Post. "The soldier was deployed as part of Operation Lone Star, the border security mobilization directed by Gov. Greg Abbott (R) that has lined the Rio Grande with U.S. troops, concertina wire and other impediments in an effort to reduce illegal crossings."
• Jury selection begins today for the trial of Michael Lacey and other former Backpage executives. A group of 41 "journalists, editors, artists, and public servants"—many of whom worked for Lacey and the now-deceased James Larkin— have signed a public letter of support for Lacey, asserting that he "is the target of a vindictive prosecution, resulting from his 40-plus years as a muckraking journalist" and calling "for this travesty to end" lest "a dangerous precedent … be set, whereby the U.S. government can prosecute people for third-party speech simply because the authorities find that speech objectionable."
• The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) has in its possession "nearly 5,400 emails, electronic records and documents that potentially show President [Joe] Biden using a pseudonym during his vice presidency," reports the New York Post.
• Fallout continues for the Kansas cops who raided a small-town newspaper. "The raid of the Marion County Record is now international news, thanks in large part to the flagrant First Amendment violations," notes Techdirt, which rounds up the latest updates (including Marion County Attorney Joel Ensey withdrawing the warrants used to justify the raid).
• Talking about sex online shouldn't be illegal.
• Are both the left and the right getting Oliver Anthony wrong?
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The irony of that being published in the Detroit Free Press.
The Freep hasn't exactly ever been known as a conservative paper. Looks like they've gone more left over time.
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My mom wouldn't read the Detroit News. Said it was a Republican paper.
I used to read both back when I used to read newspapers.
We'd get both on Sunday where we were over there, and I'd get them on Sunday at college. We also used to get three papers here as well (Tribune, Sun-Times, Herald-News).
Because they don't count gangland shootings in Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, LA etc.
But they do count them in the tally of "mass-shooting victims."
But with unspecified race data on the shooter?
White shooter in Florida kills 3 black victims, national news.
Black shooter in Georgia goes door-to-door killing 4 white victims..."local news". Literally.
This was last month, the shooter was later killed in firefight with police after manhunt. Note one word about race, motive, etc. even during the manhunt! We were told what color the car he was driving was, the color of his shirt and pants. His skin tone was not mentioned, nor that of his victims. Which is fine, I suppose, as the skin color of the shooter and his victims is generally immaterial to the heinousness of his crimes. Just pointing out the coverage discrepancies, which is seen pretty much anytime the shooting doesn't fit the narrative.
https://www.11alive.com/article/news/local/henry-county-mass-shooting-what-we-know/85-3a70f50d-8cba-47fb-8962-7f31415fceb8
Authorities identified the suspect as Longmore. He is 40 years old and is between 5-feet-10 and 5-feet-11 inches tall.
He was last seen wearing a dark shirt with red tones and long gray pants. Police said he escaped in a black 2017 GMC Acadia with the Georgia license plate number DHF756 -- police said the car does not belong to Longmore.
At this time, authorities have not released a motive for the shooting and it's still unclear how the suspect and victims are related.
At a memorial for victims, the police chief said the mother of the suspect was also a victim, because “she lost her son”.
I can see that, and maybe the mother did her best, and yet her son still grew up to be a killer.
But I’ve no doubt that if someone in Florida were to make a similar comment about the swastika-rifle shooter they would be ruthlessly excoriated.
"Note one word about race, motive, etc. even during the manhunt! We were told what color the car he was driving was, the color of his shirt and pants. His skin tone was not mentioned, nor that of his victims. Which is fine, I suppose, as the skin color of the shooter and his victims is generally immaterial to the heinousness of his crimes."
When he was a suspect at large, I'd think his physical description would be pretty important.
In a ruling last week, U.S. District Judge Daniel Calabretta said it was a "close case" but the RNC hadn't "sufficiently pled that Google acted in bad faith."
Judge Daniel clicked on "I'm Feeling Lucky" and was satisfied with that result.
The person who tried to end Penny's life in the womb was not a doctor or even an illegal abortion provider — it was her father.
Unforced error, as there are people who have survived the medical procedure. And, I suppose, countless others who have lives because the procedure wasn't available.
Last week ENB said she didn't exist and allegedly survived. Now she his a model for abortion access. ENB is and always will be a feckless cunt.
ENB has her agenda, and that agenda includes sex workers and abortion access, even if said agenda winds up being non-libertarian.
And how exactly are abortion rights non- libertarian? Liberty over one's body should be a concern of every libertarian.
Do you really need someone to lay out the obvious argument here, or are you just being disingenuous?
Which rights for which body? There are two involved.
I believe that the right of an individual to control her own body is superior to the rights of another to exist. But there is definitely legitimate disagreement among libertarians on the topic.
I believe that the right of an individual to control her own body is superior to the rights of another to exist.
Even if she, and an accomplice, forced that person to exist --and forced that person to be in the spot she wants that person out of?
If you forcibly detain and imprison someone, why should it be legal for you to end that imprisonment by killing your victim?
Zeb, let's take an application of your assertion here, and get away from an abortion.
Can a mother with a 1 month old baby choose not to feed/care for it? The parents are still utilizing their own bodies to help care/maintain the life of a baby. So your assertion here would basically outlaw parental neglect. Are you comfortable with that?
I think the difference of something (or someone) living in your body is sufficiently significant to make the two cases very different. This is something where compromise is necessary and I'm not going to get into a big debate on abortion now as there are no new arguments and we're not going to change anyone's mind here. As such, I'm fine with a 16 week time limit or something like that.
It is not a dichotomy. A fetus is both a human and a parasite. Insisting it is only one or the other is what is not rational. Viability seems to be the only standard reasonable to determine rights before birth.
That being said, for a large number of people, "family" is more important than anything else in their life. The biggest mistake that the pro-choice crowd makes is in celebrating abortion as a freedom and equating pregnancy to slavery. It offends the sensibilities of those who might otherwise be sympathetic to the plight of unwanted pregnancy.
How are they fundamentally different? In both cases the parents still expend energy in order to take care of another who through their actions they chose to take responsibility for.
The only relative difference is the comfort of the mother. But having had many sleepless nights, newborns are also uncomfortable to have.
I'm not big on choosing a comfort over an individual, which is what the baby is pre or post birth. Especially when it is predicates on a choice individuals made (not arguing for the extreme rape cases as it is silly)
Can a mother with a 1 month old baby choose not to feed/care for it?
Yes. This happens all the time, by giving up custody so someone else takes over the care. Which is not possible for a fetus.
But the state required them to expend energy in order to take the child to proper authorities. The parents couldn’t just put then on the porch and say good luck.
You seem to be intentionally misunderstanding the question. The government requires the adult to care for the child until it is taken to a center or safe haven zone.
As for your "it is not possible with a 'fetus'", yes it is after 20 weeks.
I'm not misunderstanding the question. I'm pointing out the difference between a baby that anyone can care for and a fetus that only 1 person can care for.
My argument is not that abortion should be legal, just that the burden the state puts on the mother is a libertarian concern different from the care of a child. The requirement of not leaving a baby on the porch vs. keeping the baby alive in your abdomen is not apples and apples.
Would be interesting, and possibly informative, to know, in that story that happened years ago, why adoption wasn’t considered.
Here’s a non-paywalled version of the story, by the way:
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article278586634.html
Notably, at the end it mentions that Penny doesn’t want to be interviewed or used as a “political football”.
[Disclaimer: Man, don’t even know what to say. I’m all in favor of not using civilians as political footballs.]
ENB (and prob 95% of all women) would die a lonely old spinster if sex work and abortion on demand were 100% legal. No man would put up with the nagging and lack of sandwiches if he could pay for sex (and always got what he wanted) and could abort any consequence. So much cheaper and peaceful when you don't have to buy the cow.
Be fair. Sex work while pregnant has physical challenges and a limited, if dedicated, customer base.
Always good to call someone a cunt when discussing an issue that involves women’s rights.
It’s always good to call you a cunt, because, well…you’re a cunt.
My daughter has the right to continue living from conception. All humans do.
That’s a religious view. We do not have rights based on religion in this country.
It's the official scientific viewpoint you retarded fuck. Every biology textbook on the planet says that a new human life begins at syngamy.
This seems to be the actual quote from ENB that you are referring to:
“Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis expressed pride about signing a six-week ban into law in Florida, but evaded the question of whether he would urge a national six-week ban. Instead, he launched into a bizarre and apocryphal story about a woman who allegedly survived ‘multiple abortion attempts.’"
Saying that the woman “didn’t exist” is a stronger claim than saying her story is “apocryphal”.
[Disclaimer: Offered in the Spirit of keeping claims of what this or that person said accurate in a forum where people tend to misquote and mischaracterize what others have said.]
It's hard for me to buy ENB's claim that this is a brutal tragedy when Penny survived, had a live, and is still living in Florida 68 years later. To me it seems more miraculous that a viable baby didn't die and survived being left in a frying pan and has gone on to lead some kind of life-I would say healthy, productive, but I know nothing about the woman.
But this where the failed communication is happening. ENB and pro-choice advocates' sympathies are all with the mother who had a coat-hanger shoved into her uterus, while people who are pro-life are sympathetic entirely for the baby.
I am sympathetic to the mothers (or would-be mothers) as well. Forcing someone against her will to carry an unwanted child to term is no light matter. But in the end my distaste for ending what I consider a life is greater.
To stick to the story as presented, the baby’s survival was against the father’s will, but not necessarily against the mother’s.
Here’s a link to the story. There was no “frying pan”:
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article278586634.html
“When the baby arrived shortly after 3 a.m., the nurse wrapped her in a towel and placed her in a pan, Penny Hopper said one video. In the other, Hopper said her mother told her the baby was placed in a basket.”
[Disclaimer: Offered in the spirit of sticking to truth.]
Good ole animus. Leftist judge doesn't like a new law or voting district... animus. Only works against the right.
Obvious 100% consistent bias against the right... no proof of animus! Always works for the left.
I too am shocked that a Biden judge would rule in favor of team d. It doesn't matter to him that Google flat out said they alter search results to favor team d
Maybe he wants White Mike level proof of Democrat perfidy, which necessarily involves a notary and the signatures of twelve witnesses.
What about a 6 month media campaign, two impeachments, and a congressional hearing written and produced by Hollywood?
Doesn't count because Lynn Cheney and Mitt Romney mean it was "bipartisan".
That wasn't the case that was brought, however. It was about spam filters. People on the right really need to do a much better job at researching and presenting these cases, they're getting their butts kicked when it come to lawfare.
If a company outright states that they alter search results with bias and animus, that should be fairly strong evidence that they apply the same bias and animus to their spam filters.
Spam filters are a very different mechanism with different algorithms.
https://twitter.com/dark_garbaggio/status/1696298006314639865?t=yNoSptlgPGePKA1M4tPE0A&s=19
Isn’t it crazy that the shooter educated in Wuhan ended up killing a staff member at UNC chapel hill where there is a high security biolab that Dr. Francis Boyle claimed created Covid-19 in an interview on infowars in February of 2020? What a wild coincidence.
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Cmon man. We know he is the foreign Chinese face of white supremacy.
https://twitter.com/LangmanVince/status/1696315423136891080?t=EJ1QRR0-wBgjL6FOL6uvfw&s=19
"Mostly White Asian Male"
This is why Fox News is dead to me
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It seems, anytime, anywhere, that the perpetrator is inconvenient to the narrative, the adjective "white" gets added. Remember George Zimmerman, a "white hispanic"?
Wasn't Zimmerman genetically as black as Obama?
You're assuming Obama is human.
Lizards come in all colors
I thought all high-achieving Asians are now white, or maybe super-white.
This is a lie of course. Someone altered the heading. It never said "Mostly white asian male."
This. I don't understand why anyone would bother to change it frankly.
I think that's a meme. I've seen it with a CNN logo too.
It's a meme, someone took the meme literally and got offended. It's just so on-the-nose that it doesn't obviously trigger alarm bells for some.
The U.S. is pumping oil faster than ever. Republicans don’t care.
GOP presidential candidates are blaming pump prices on President Joe Biden’s clean energy policies, even though the U.S. is churning out record amounts of oil.
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And Sen. Tim Scott (R.-S.C.) railed last month on the Biden administration, which he asserted “has shut down energy production in America.”
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/08/28/republicans-gas-prices-oil-production-00111626
Tim Scott - a faggot and a liar.
Youre the worst spokesman ever.
https://fee.org/articles/3-things-biden-has-done-that-increased-gas-prices/
Not even npr tries your fucking narrative.
https://www.npr.org/2022/04/16/1093195479/biden-federal-oil-leases-royalties
That is not what the faggot said, you idiot.
Biden “has shut down energy production in America.”
Which he hasn't but as he said just a few weeks ago it was because courts wouldn't let him dumbass.
He has definitely retarded energy production.
Which he hasn’t
So you admit the faggot is lying. I consider that a small step toward rationality for you.
Go back and read what Jesse actually said, dork.
He doesn't even read his own stuff, why would he read Jesse's?
My, such homophobia.
I bet your socks are embarrassed.
Psychopathic liars don’t get embarrassed.
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
How much was shut down? The statement was not a lie. There is no indication that it referred to ALL production. If some energy production was shut down in America, then "energy production was shut down in America". This is how politicians speak. Every politician indulges in it. You've heard Democrats do the same thing.
You were banned for posting links to child pornography.
turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
I at least applaud you for being so obvious with your bigotry, racism, and homophobia. It’s always nice when people allow their true colors to shine through.
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
You just can’t help yourself, asshole bigot?
The person who tried to end Penny’s life in the womb was not a doctor or even an illegal abortion provider — it was her father.
“I can’t operate on this fetus, she’s my daughter.”
Underrated riddle: THE MOM IS THE DOCTOR!
The doctor was a broad? Now I've heard everything.
Oh, sure, when a woman wants to abort, ENB's all "Anywhere, anytime." When a man wants to abort, she's all "I'm going to need to see a medical license."
In a ruling last week, U.S. District Judge Daniel Calabretta said it was a "close case" but the RNC hadn't "sufficiently pled that Google acted in bad faith."
You mean the gay judge Joe Biden appointed because he was a gay judge? Who'd have thought he might rule against the GOP?
Amazing isn't it?
A Texas National Guard member shot and wounded a man along the Rio Grande in the El Paso area Saturday evening, firing across the border into Mexican territory...
He thought Trump's wall would be there for a backstop.
In Col. Charles Askins autobiography Unrepentant Sinner, he tells the tale of, during prohibition, waiting until Mexican whiskey smugglers reached the center of the Rio Grande carrying their whiskey on mules before they just gunned them down - no warning, just lead. Nobody cared and who's to say which side of the border they were really on at the time. Shooting across the border has certainly happened hundreds of times over the years. Just sayin'.
It will be easier when Climate Change! dries up all the rivers. But the giant sand worms will kinda suck.
It'll still be within six degrees of Kevin Bacon.
RIP Fred Ward.
Tremors was fucking awesome.
So was Time Rider and Remo Williams. Ward was terrific in anything he did but Tremors was the most fun.
^^
"You must run very fast"
So, the National Guard member who fired across the border was acting to save migrants from being attacked by armed men.
"According to one of the CBP officials, who was briefed on what happened, the Texas Guard member opened fire after three men on the Mexican side of the border started attacking a group of migrants with a knife as the migrants attempted to cross the river.
“One of the bandits was trying to stab the migrants, and that’s when the National Guard fired,” said the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the incident. The official said details are hazy.
While it is extremely unusual for U.S. personnel to fire a weapon into Mexico, the soldier’s use of force would probably be justified if the lives of the migrants were in immediate danger, the official said."
You mean ENB didn’t mention the part of the story that doesn’t fit the narrative? Well I’m shocked, SHOCKED!
Needs more TechDirt
Headline should read, "Texas National Guardsman protects migrants from knife-wielding robber".
Is he going to let these migrants live in his home? How can anyone object to killing migrants if you do not let them live in your home? You are not pro-life, just pro-migration. /sarc
Ha
He only shot because the whips weren't long enough to reach across the river.
'golf clap'
https://twitter.com/EmeraldRobinson/status/1696288098064191757?t=_PO8HFKTk88Cqen_t3lY_Q&s=19
Democrats are busy indicting GOP lawyers for the crime of offering legal advice to Trump — but you think you’re going to vote in a free election in 15 months?
They'll be even freer and fairer than the last one. So free and fair that you don't even have to go to the bother of filling out your ballot and they'll still count it for you.
Like the best kind of freedom, the best kind of voting is when government assumes your rights, in order to do the things you would do if you were more aligned with the 5 year plan.
Voting will be done by AI which knows how you will vote and will vote for you.
...the U.S. government can prosecute people for third-party speech simply because the authorities find that speech objectionable.
Hey, it's easier than stopping riots or solving property crimes.
I’m old enough to remember when Google “accidentally” listed Nazism as an ideology of the Republican Party of California. Because who hasn’t accidentally labeled people Nazis? Common mistake.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/vbq38d/google-is-listing-nazism-as-the-first-ideology-of-the-california-republican-party
I mean the employees openly brag about their bias and how it feeds algorithms.
IT WAS JUST A JOKE!
The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) has in its possession "nearly 5,400 emails, electronic records and documents that potentially show President [Joe] Biden using a pseudonym during his vice presidency..."
Carlos Danger.
Pete o'file
This guy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTaKDnSIb4c
NSFM (Not Safe for Mike)
Pierre Delecto
Dr Rick Ords
Ron Mexico
Obama's Jester.
U. K. Rainesman
Pizza Sniffer
G. Earl Snifter?
Just pointing out the irony once more that we only have these emails because the stuff is in the National Archive.
[Disclaimer: Not excusing anything Biden did. Just criticizing the MAGA belief that Trump has some kind of right to keep his records out of the archives.]
Just criticizing the MAGA belief that Trump has some kind of right to keep his records out of the archives.
Why are you criticizing things that don't exist?
Fallout continues for the Kansas cops who raided a small-town newspaper.
Actual consequences? Where's my fainting couch.
I just find it funny reason pays more attention to a local nobody newspaper getting raided than it does the feds raiding Project Veritas over a diary.
And still pursuing criminal charges against O'Keefe.
You know, to fortify an election and all.
I'd ask Reason this: If a party was looking to steal an election --- what would they do differently than what the Dems are doing now?
Local story.
Select an appealing candidate?
I keep forgetting about that one. At this point there are so many outrages that should be major scandals but aren't that I can't even keep them all in my mind at once.
Have to keep that narrative going - all cops are bad!
Talking about sex online shouldn't be illegal.
Unless you're getting off on it, of course.
Mike Masnick at Techdirt...
Anyone want to start a Mike Masnick counter for ENB?
2 for today
he's so dreamy.
What about Polis?
He's Governor McDreamy. Masnick is Techie McSteamy.
And now for something completely different.
Elizabeth Nolan Brown (or Zuck or Congress or the EFF... take your pick): You sit here, dear.
Internet Users: All right.
Elizabeth Nolan Brown: (to Waitress) Morning!
Mike Masnick: Morning!
Elizabeth Nolan Brown: Well, what've you got?
Mike Masnick: Well, there's egg and bacon; egg sausage and bacon; egg and Section 230; egg bacon and Section 230; egg bacon sausage and Section 230; Section 230 bacon sausage and Section 230; Section 230 egg Section 230 Section 230 bacon and Section 230; Section 230 sausage Section 230 Section 230 bacon Section 230 tomato and Section 230;
Google: (starting to chant) Section 230 Section 230 Section 230 Section 230...
Mike Masnick: ...Section 230 Section 230 Section 230 egg and Section 230; Section 230 Section 230 Section 230 Section 230 Section 230 Section 230 baked beans Section 230 Section 230 Section 230...
Google: (singing) Section 230! Lovely Section 230! Lovely Section 230!
Mike Masnick: ...or Lobster Thermidor au Crevettes with a mornay sauce served in a Provencale manner with shallots and aubergines garnished with truffle pate, brandy and with a fried egg on top and Section 230.
Internet Users: Have you got anything without Section 230?
Mike Masnick: Well, there's Section 230 egg sausage and Section 230, that's not got much Section 230 in it.
Internet Users: I don't want ANY Section 230!
Elizabeth Nolan Brown: Why can't she have egg bacon Section 230 and sausage?
Internet Users: THAT'S got Section 230 in it!
Elizabeth Nolan Brown: Hasn't got as much Section 230 in it as Section 230 egg sausage and Section 230, has it?
Google: Section 230 Section 230 Section 230 Section 230 (crescendo through next few lines)
Internet Users: Could you do the egg bacon Section 230 and sausage without the Section 230 then?
Mike Masnick: Urgghh!
Internet Users: What do you mean 'Urgghh'? I don't like Section 230!
Google: Lovely Section 230! Wonderful Section 230!
Mike Masnick: Shut up!
Google: Lovely Section 230! Wonderful Section 230!
Mike Masnick: Shut up! (Google stop) Bloody Google! You can't have egg bacon Section 230 and sausage without the Section 230.
Internet Users: (shrieks) I don't like Section 230!
Elizabeth Nolan Brown: Sshh, dear, don't cause a fuss. I'll have your Section 230. I love it. I'm having Section 230 Section 230 Section 230 Section 230 Section 230 Section 230 Section 230 beaked beans Section 230 Section 230 Section 230 and Section 230!
Google: (singing) Section 230 Section 230 Section 230 Section 230. Lovely Section 230! Wonderful Section 230!
Mike Masnick: Shut up!! Baked beans are off.
Elizabeth Nolan Brown: Well could I have her Section 230 instead of the baked beans then?
Mike Masnick: You mean Section 230 Section 230 Section 230 Section 230 Section 230 Section 230... (but it is too late and the Google drown her words)
Google: (singing elaborately) Section 230, Section 230, Section 230, Section 230. Lovely Section 230! Wonderful seeection 230! Lovely Section 230! Wonderful Section 230. Se-e-e-e-e-e-ction 230! Se-e-e-e-e-e-ction 230! Se-e-e-e-e-e-ction 230! Se-e-e-e-e-e-ction 230! Lovely Section 230! (Lovely Section 230!) Lovely Section 230! (Lovely Section 230!) Lovely seeection 230! Section 230, Section 230, Section 230, seeection 230!
Well done.
oh ya. lolz.
Beautiful. 🙂
Nice
SQRLSY socking as mad now?
Section 230 is GOOD! Thought control and speech control are BAD!
(Simplified for simpletons, it is.)
If you say Section 230 three times SQRLSY is unleashed
BLOODY GOOGLE!
Are both the left and the right getting Oliver Anthony wrong?
The left and right supporters of their respective rich men in DC probably are.
That depends on who you're talking to. Establishment partisans from either side aren't understanding it. Populists on either side probably get it. Conservatives fully understand it even if they disagree with him on the republican party being the vehicle for rectifying those problems.
I swear these idiots don't understand that most conservatives hate elected Republicans for being RINOs, but absolutely despise democrats for being actively opposed to everything they want
Anthony himself said he disapproves of _everyone_ that was on the Republican debate stage, from old school to populists.
Testing this link.
People seem to want school choice.
https://www.thecentersquare.com/national/article_0402b69c-438c-11ee-a9dc-b313c955e679.html
According to The Center Square Voters' Voice Poll, conducted by Noble Predictive Insights, a slight majority, 51%, of voters say they support some kind of school choice measures. Of those, 34% of voters say tax dollars should follow students regardless of the situation, and 17% said they support targeted school choice programs for low-income Americans.
“When you look at the party breakdowns, you see a split,” said Mike Noble, CEO and founder of Noble Predictive Polling. “Democrats say the dollars should stay in the schools right now. Republicans are on the opposite end of that spectrum and say tax dollars should follow a student regardless of the situation and let the parents decide what’s best.”
Hey, what people want has nothing to do with Democracy!
Don’t send your kids to public school:
A 12yo boy named Jaiden was kicked out of class in the
@HarrisonSD2
school district for having a Gadsden Flag patch on his backpack.
The school says it “originated with slavery and the slave trade” which is not even remotely close to being true. (Hilarious video)
https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1696512277799706937
The kid smirking knowing the school admin is going to get a history lesson is great.
That's priceless. We used to run into the same thing back in the 1980s and 1990s with school officials. They were, even then, education grads with no knowledge of history or reality.
When I was 11 I told my parents I hated school because I was smarter than my teachers. It's more true now
I told a teacher that, it didn't go well. It also didn't help I made her show her ass in front of the principle when she sent me there.
Did she have a nice ass?
She was a morbidly obese black woman. But I hear beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Lizzo agrees.
think she's more in the "you will worship my fat ass" club
Go on.
In a world where men can get pregnant, history is whatever the regime says it is.
Yup. Even more than Science!, history is a narrative constructed by the rulers.
But now I have another point to ponder. Is it a man's right to choose?
It shows how deep the infection has gone that this happened in Colorado Springs, which had been one of the few red areas of the state left. It's been going purple ever since Denver shitlibs started buying homes there after the metro area became too expensive.
Also, this should disabuse libertarians of the notion that charter schools are any better than regular public schools. Most of them are still taught by the same pinko teachers and run by the same pinko administrators.
This is...crazy.
What is really sad is that the school in question is one of the Hillsdale Classical Academies that the Left has been targeting for the past year or so.
One of the top Charter schools in the nation (Basis, located in Arizona) just decided to unionize this year. Watching my kid's school very carefully to see what that entails. Warning signs.
Not even the reporters are safe.
https://cwbchicago.com/2023/08/tv-news-crew-robbed-reporting-armed-robbery-sprees-chicago.html
The armed robbery problem has become so bad in Chicago that armed robbers this morning robbed a TV news crew doing a story about an armed robbery in West Town.
That unbelievable development came as at least 30 people were robbed or carjacked during sprees between Sunday afternoon and Monday morning.
A reporter and photojournalist were preparing to do a live shot about the latest robbery spree when a holdup crew rolled up to them in the 1200 block of North Milwaukee shortly before 5 a.m.
Without identifying the victims as a news crew, a Chicago police spokesperson confirmed that a 28-year-old man and a 42-year-old man were outside in the 1200 block of North Milwaukee when a black SUV and a gray sedan pulled up around 4:53 a.m. Three men got out of the vehicles wearing ski masks and displaying guns.
They are the second Chicago TV news unit to be robbed this month.
Someone needs to bring back the “Escape from___” franchise, only instead of fiction, just use real footage.
"Escape From Chicago" is currently playing.
Build the Wall
"The rampant violence and crime is getting really bad in your city, huh?"
Yes...
"You feel frightened for your life just going out or even stopping at traffic lights don't you?"
Yes...
"Would you like us to bring in troops and impose martial law for just a little bit, to make things safe again?"
Yes...
Not a dime of federal funding to these cities!
This.
Doesn't just seem "believable", it seems predictable.
Especially after the first one "this month".
Beautiful.
Are both the left and the right getting Oliver Anthony wrong?
But how? The dog whistling was deafening.
The song is very explicit in the message. The only way to get it wrong is to be a trash reporter or someone that concider them elite
^ This guy gets it!
A fraction of what border areas deal with, but it's overwhelming Chicago, a sanctuary city.
https://www.chicagocontrarian.com/blog/native-chicagoans-pushed-to-the-back-of-line
The benevolence of Chicago’s former-Mayor Lori Lightfoot and current Mayor Brandon Johnson trying to earn political points by openly stating sanctuary status for illegal immigrants is now being felt.
Since September 2022, Chicago has been ineffectively dealing with busloads of migrants who were welcomed with open arms by progressive lawmakers and community activists. At the moment, Chicago is struggling to manage the arrival of nearly 12,000 illegals of which over 5,000 seek shelter, according to WTTW. These calculations of the total numbers of illegals entering Chicago are only estimates. Realistically, the numbers currently in Chicago are higher or lower depending where you glean information.
The fact Chicago wrestles with illegals overwhelming the city, progressives, community organizers, and immigrants rights groups have expressed displeasure with Texas Governor Greg Abbott and accuse him of using human beings as pawns. Yet Abbott is not the architect of open borders. Instead, Abbott is merely trying to spread the wealth of his misfortune to those mayors who feigned compassion.
Now that Chicago has become a main migrant destination, what has Chicago’s official leadership done to provide services for the wave of arrivals?
Those fortunate enough to be placed in temporary shelters are located in areas of the city already dealing with economic distress and hardship. Meanwhile, as Chicago pays an inordinate amount of attention to illegals, its poorest and most in need of housing are now being relegated to the back of the line because of the “humanitarian crisis.”
Meanwhile, preferential treatment for the illegal migrants has become so extensive, it is causing rifts in communities across the city. Owing to soaring temperatures, Chicago has taken steps provide cooling buses for illegals sheltered at the Gage Park Fieldhouse. Though the Chicago Park District lists approximately 30 cooling stations around the city, you are not likely to find cooling buses in your neighborhood.
A lack of permanent shelters, affordable housing, underperforming schools, and overall employment will all come to a head as Chicago continues to overspend and underdeliver. Unless Johnson and company — mainly the rowdy band of Democratic Socialists and union organizers surrounding him — can pull a rabbit out of their hats, their policy proposals will only bring hopelessness.
They just want to add them to the "dependant class".
And to (D) voter rolls (but not allowed to vote; the party will take care of that).
Keep sending illegal aliens to Chicago; by the busload - every day. After all, they claim to be a sanctuary city. Give them the opportunity to live out their values.
Wow. A whole 12k. Gosh. I just can't even imagine... having so few.
Things will get a lot uglier come winter.
Someone please help me understand the rules of "intersectionality" and "speaking from a position of privilege."
Under what conditions is it permissible for a 20-year-old white male social media influencer to attack the character of a black Ivy League professor and essentially tell him to sit down and shut up?
Cornel West, the Green Party candidate, owes close to $500,000 in unpaid taxes and child support. This is the guy that people on the far left are saying should take votes from Biden? Seriously? Don’t be fooled. He’s not a serious candidate. BIDEN 2024.
It can't be as simple as "It's permissible when the white kid supports the Dem establishment and the black professor rebels against it ever so slightly"? Can it?!
#NeedClarification
Dems can be as racist as they want to be as long as it furthers their agenda. Note Pluggo and his racism whenever a black man leaves the Democrat plantation.
“intersectionality” = bullshit.
There.
Speaking of the racist, misogynist pedophile...
Everything you say = bullshit.
Now turn yourself in for your crimes against children.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
These are not intended as logically consistent positions, but as propaganda tools.
Marxism is race and class blind... as long as you support the Marxist cause.
Black lesbian Harvard law grad is “silenced” for saying that transgender athletes have no place in women’s sports”
A black lesbian Harvard law graduate was censored for “violating community rules” after stating that trans women do not belong in female spaces.
Monica Harris wrote a blog post. The post was quickly removed, and while she wanted to explain the “impact of transgender inclusion on the rights of women and lesbians,” her article was labeled as “hateful content.” In her post, Harris, a Harward law graduate, spoke about how former NCAA swimmer Riley Gaines felt she was “emotionally blackmailed and gaslit into silence.” Gaines referred to Lia Thomas, a trans swimmer, and Gaines commented on what it felt like competing with a trans athlete, “Being in that space with a male, it’s like a bad car wreck.”
The entertainment lawyer said she was “shocked” by the removal of her post since, “as a gay woman of color,” she had a particular interest in the matter. She turned to Fox News, where she spoke up about the censorship. “I’ve never been accused of advocating for a hateful position. What happened to me was shocking and ironic,” Harris wrote for Fox. She added, “I’m a published author and a TEDx speaker. Much of my writing focuses on bringing people together around our shared values and interests. I’ve never been accused of advocating hateful positions.”
Harris explained, “This incident is laced with many ironies,” but she will not be silenced. Instead, she shared, “Protecting our sacred right to free speech isn’t easy or painless; it demands our constant vigilance and selflessness.” Writing on Fox News, the lawyer said that she was “silenced” for her beliefs “that inclusion of biological men in women’s sports, prisons, and other historically protected spaces potentially undermines the rights and safety of biological women and lesbians. Yet the act of deplatforming my article was, itself, proof of the marginalization I lamented in my article.”
Harris concluded that “for certain,” this is not a way to live in a “free society.” She also shared her worries, like, “Will I be branded a TERF if I continue to advocate for the rights of women and lesbians?” She also asked if her next article would be the one that gets her banned.
In a now-deleted blog post, Harris wrote, “Testosterone’s effect on every cell in the male body is profound and explains why elite females cannot effectively compete against elite males.” She added how many choose to “ignore this biological reality.” She added, “They insist that excluding transgender athletes from women’s sports is discriminatory because it favors people who were born female over people who identify as female.”
The lawyer wondered, “Women’s sports, which once gave girls the confidence to compete in activities they would have otherwise been excluded from, are now setting them up for failure. Efforts to promote inclusion aren’t moving women forward; they’re pushing us backward.” Women are expected to “embrace your competitive disadvantage in the name of equality.”
"The judge also pointed out that designating certain emails as spam is the kind of content moderation protected by Section 230."
Wowzers, that thing sure gets around, huh?
There’d be no internet without it.
That puts the exclamation point on many complaints about it being an anti-speech tool.
So, Germany is seeking to ban the AfD party. Seem to remember another German government that was fond of banning parties they disagreed with.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/08/13/afd-party-ban-germany-far-right-extremists/
The Establishment is panicking.
I wonder, do they think that by banning a party they don't like, the supporters will magically disappear?
Whatever the politics of the AfD, nearly 1/4 of Germans support it more than the other parties. In fact, given that half of Germans don't vote at all, it's a good bet that the majority of Germans hate their politicians and government.
Instead of banning parties, these politicians need to think about what they have been doing wrong.
As an aside, I notice that Koch is not allowing certain links on his comment section right now. I’ve seen issues with Zerohedge and Just the News at different times. Anyone else having issues, and from which sites?
Edit: I think I know what happened - let me test it first.
I've had trouble with links to Rumble.
Has the RNC ever considered that their emails are in fact SPAM? I am not fond of being hit-up for money, regardless of it being in emails, snail mail, phone calls, check-out lines, or from the homeless person in the street median. I give plenty of money but rarely to those confronting and annoying me for it. I prefer to pick myself.
Issue is that the DNC, by Google's admission, does not have the same issue.
Lying Jeffy knows that.
Yes but DNC emails are wholesome and supply 99% of your daily nutritional needs.
“The aforementioned study did find that Gmail marked many more right-leaning candidate emails than left-leaning candidate emails as spam in new accounts created by researchers.”
These means the DNC has the same issue but to a lesser degree.
They send emails to people who sign up to receive them shit weasel.
As the judge noted, many people will interact with a site once and then find they have a new friend sending them spam daily. I have certainly had that experience. If you signed up, and want the emails, go to your spam folder, find the emails and set them to pass through. Simple as that. The fact is that many people are happy to have DNC, RNC, and so many more money requests filter and sent to the spam file.
“I give plenty of money….”
Dit…..dit…..dit…..
Signal sent.
Also, likely bullshit.
[Test - I think the multiple emails of Biden's choked the system.]
A little more on those 5,400 emails.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/revealed-national-archive-has-5400-biden-pseudonym-documents-time-veep
The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) revealed it’s in possession of some 5,400 records that contain email pseudonyms that President Joe Biden used during his tenure as vice president.
The jarring number was revealed in a letter from the Archives to the Southeastern Legal Foundation (SLF), which last year filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request for any documents that referenced three pseudonymous email accounts: robinware456 @ gmail.com, JRBWare @ gmail.com and Robert.L.Peters @ pci.gov.
“We have performed a search of our collection for Vice Presidential records related to your [June 9, 2022] request and have identified approximately 5,138 email messages, 25 electronic files and 200 pages of potentially responsive records that must be processed in order to respond to your request,” said the letter from NARA.
“SLF requested these now highly sought after emails from NARA on June 9, 2022, through a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request,” said the group in a statement. “Unfortunately, after identifying nearly 5,400 potentially responsive records, NARA has dragged its feet and still has not produced a single email. SLF now turns to the court, asking it to order NARA to produce Biden’s emails.”
While mystery swirls around the several thousand documents, we do know that one of the emails details plans for a phone call with Ukraine’s former president, Petro Poroshenko. An aide to Biden, John Flynn, copied Hunter at his email address at Rosemont Seneca Partners – while Hunter was serving on the board of Ukrainian energy giant, Burisma, which was deemed to be corrupt by the Obama-Biden State Department.
Contrast this with NARA going after Trump for which they already had copies. Weaponized against one guy and protecting compromising information for another. I do wonder what the difference is and what that says of their sympathies/loyalties
“for which they already had copies”
Cite?
Cite?
Only Mike is dumb enough to think records printed off a computer delete the digital copies.
I've always imagined that NARA is staffed by dowdy librarians with their tied up in tight buns and reading glasses perched on the end of their noses. I see them toiling tirelessly preserving our nation's precious documents so that future historians can quote the brilliant prose of our great leaders. With photos and footnotes. Turns out they're a bunch of lefty whackjobs.
It not just a miracle that Penny Hopper survived but also that her mother survived. Many women did not survive these procedures. The fact is you cannot stop abortions, you can only make them illegal and unsafe. Life doesn't offer easy choices and saving the Penny Hoppers may cost many other their lives.
No one should be busting down doors to arrest women who have received abortions. But no one should be advocating for them either. And the fucking government has zero business subsidizing them. Your argument that more deaths will be the result if safe abortions aren't "provided" is absurd. Why is the unborn child never a factor in this equation?
Ideology?
It isn't a question of the unborn never being considered but when and under what circumstances. The fact is that when the unborn child is a mere clump of cells most people have no problem with terminating the pregnancy with hormonal birth control. It is only later when the question of terminating a pregnancy comes up. Again most people accept early abortions and much of the discussion centers on a 15 week limit. But there will always be question about the health of the mother and fetus after 15 weeks and these are really medical decisions and not legal ones.
Non of your points are contentious and yet are commonly used as strawmen. The problem with your historical argument in favor of abortion is that they are ultimately not rational, dismissing any consideration of the unborn baby's rights. At what point does the fetus become a person and gain rights? Once it passes through the birth canal? Yet abortion up to birth is commonly agreed to be too far. There is no objective way to parse that threshold and pro-abortionists' screaming instead of rational discourse on this topic is indicative of dishonesty. There is no way that abortion is ever a good thing, even if done to save the mother's life, which I agree with. At best it is tragic.
The fetus becomes a person with some element of legal rights when they are viable. Meaning that they can leave the womb toute suite and head into a superpreemie ICU and still survive.
That requires:
a) someone who will pay the 200k or so for the preemie ICU care since the fetus can't pay even with rights.
b)who will do so without buying the fetus as adoption/parental chattel property as that violates the 13th amendment.
c) a doctor/medical expert who can assess the medical viability of the fetus and the costs/risks (to many parties) of delivering the fetus from the womb to the ICU and both perform the operation and communicate to
d)the woman who can now give (and even be forced to give) informed consent.
When a prolifer ever submits the detailed plan and funding for the first two items, then they may become credible enough to interfere in the third and the fourth.
Until then STFU and fuck off. You got no rights at all in any of that.
A 1 month old can not survive on their own merits. Your rationalization is just stupid.
A four week old fetus is not viable. A 22 or so week old fetus is viable.
Even at 22 weeks, it is deceitful to claim that someone else has legal rights which they can’t exercise. But which you will claim to exercise on their behalf. Personhood people are just the smarmiest turds
Woosh. We all know you're a moron. No need to convince us further.
A four week old fetus is not viable. A 22 or so week old fetus is viable.
He didn't say four weeks from conception, but very clearly meant a born human who is one month old.
Personhood people are just the smarmiest turds
People who respect life sure do suck, don't they? You're level of self-awareness is indistinguishable from zero.
Prolifers don't respect life.
I await your plan for paying to prevent an abortion.
Your rationalization is just stupid.
His rationalization is evil and demonstrably false. In the vast majority of cases, pregnancy in first world nations involves little danger to the mother. Why would a woman ever choose to prematurely have a child surgically removed rather than simply bring it to term? Which would be immaterial, because doctors are proscribed from inducing labor early or performing a surgical birth for mere convenience. They would be liable for any issues.
I am thoroughly convinced that the differentiation isn't pro-abortion vs. pro-lifers, as this asshats bias clearly shows, but whether or not a person believes that a human life has intrinsic value. Ignoring biological reality and human nature in order to make the clinical case for abortion as a positive in society is flat out evil. And claiming my right as a father and husband, how about you go fuck yourself you annoying little prick.
I await your plan to actually save that life rather than just make a self righteous speech
And you are no father if it takes roughly six months for you to find out that a woman you knocked up is pregnant.
My argument is simple that abortion is a medical procedure and should be treated as such. Before viability, defined as an ability to live outside the uterus, the decision is the woman and her doctor. After viability the state may intervene but must recognize that there may be medically appropriate reasons to terminate the pregnancy.
For those who oppose abortion, I suggest focusing on reducing the need for abortions. Make sure that everyone who can cause or have a pregnancy has access to birth control. Make sure early more acceptable abortions are available. Support research to reduce medical problem that may require abortion later in a pregnancy. Finally consider how to better finically help pregnant woman so no pregnancy is ended for financial reasons.
Also, quite reasonable take.
Every individual has their own DNA from conception. They have one chance at life, just like you and me. Your thinking is what gave the world genocide and slavery. "They aren't people!"
Something he most definitely didn’t say or imply.
Quite reasonable take.
Why is the unborn child never a factor in this equation?
Because a woman does not lose her bodily autonomy just because she is pregnant.
She has bodily autonomy. Outside of rape (a common exception for pro-lifers) she used her bodily autonomy to participate in consensual sex which resulted in the creation of human life. Regret for one's decisions is not justification for the murder of another person. I swear that most pro-abortion arguments are the dumbest and lack even a sense of internal logic
It is all just really weak rationalizations. Thats all pro aborts have for the most part. Their arguments break down so quickly when you apply similar situations to their arguments.
There are no similar situations. Pregnancy is utterly unique.
Similar situations in nature? What is the point of your non sequitur, which is also arguably false?
A woman does not lose her bodily autonomy just because she is pregnant.
What about the baby's bodily autonomy, yada yada, ad nauseam.
What about it?
“to participate in consensual sex”
That’s an assumption. She was having sex with a guy who was willing to do amateur coat hanger abortions.
Nor does she gain special legal status just because she is pregnant.
Let's say two people go to Las Vegas, get really drunk, and act irresponsibly--for fun. The next morning they wake up with consequences, that will impose months if not years of physical, emotional, and financial challenge.
You claim the pregnant woman gets to declare "bodily autonomy" and undergo a simple procedure to negate her consequences. If so, why can't a man who tapped out his savings and credit to gamble, lost everything, and now faces life-changing struggle, including what he has to do with his "person", do the same?
Gosnell showed legal is not exactly safe, either.
No, but Gosnell took advantage of environment. Again, woman who has few or no safe options were left with the likes of Gosnell.
That's why agencies like planned parenthood fight against state inspectors being able to even look at sanitary conditions of a medical facility.
Portraying Planned Parenthood as some force for good in society is so fucking ignorant and evil. Grade school level crap.
"Google Isn't Intentionally Biased Against Republicans, Says Court"
Democrats, progressives, BLM, women, LGTBQXYZ activists, and CRT scholars tell me intention does not matter. If any outcome does not reflect the fair ideal I desire, that is legal evidence for profound discrimination, and grounds for government intervention.
And the fact that after 2016 Google said the would push progressives and punish all others
Federal court dismisses RNC lawsuit over Google spam filters.
Good. You can take my spam filter from my cold dead hands.
The person who tried to end Penny's life in the womb was not ... an illegal abortion provider — it was her father...
it also reflects the perils of a world where abortion is all but outlawed and women can be forced into dangerous, desperate alternatives.
So, was abortion outlawed *except* in the case of being performed by the father, was it outlawed and he actually was an illegal abortion provider, or(/and) is Julie K. Brown (and ENB) a dumb, manipulative shitbag?
"Federal court dismisses RNC lawsuit over Google spam filters."
9th?
>>A federal court has dismissed the Republican National Committee (RNC) lawsuit accusing Google of being biased against Republicans and reflecting this by marking RNC emails as spam.
fantastic. because it was ludicrous speed.
now, how many emails has the government collected where Brandon was using a fake government email address, why were the addresses necessary, and what should become?
>>5400 emails
holy cow I hadn't even scrolled down to it yet. muchas gracias.
"accidentally deleted"
they won't last the week.
Biden's incriminating emails are pining for the fjords.
>>was not a doctor or even an illegal abortion provider — it was her father.
if pops wasn't a doctor wouldn't he be an illegal abortion provider?
The baby survived so he is technically only an attempted-illegal-abortion-provider.
it is the best kind of correct.
Way to (probably intentionally) not get the intended meaning from context. She obviously meant someone who was experienced in the procedure, perhaps doing it in a back alley office for a few.
words mean things and yes I parsed it for giggles because it was sitting on a tee
I can respect honest smart assery.
>>Are both the left and the right getting Oliver Anthony wrong?
if they don't realize they're the target he's over, yes. yes they are.
The best part is they say his gritty down-to-Earth populism rebuts Trump's polished and staged populism as evidenced by Anthony's first hand criticism of everyone on stage at the GOP debates.
hadn't clicked the link. can't believe not one person in all Milwaukee was sufficiently self-aware to stop them from playing the song at the debate
The RNC argued that its emails couldn’t conceivably be considered spam since they were only sent to people who had subscribed at some point to their email lists.
What utter crap. The R’s are the most dishonest frauds around if you are unfortunate enough to ever have your email, phone, etc on any of their lists. They will never unsubscribe you even if you tell them to do so and click their ‘click here to unsubscribe’ shit. That also includes their candidates. Total scammers.
I was active in R in 2008 – registered, donated to R and RP, was a precinct captain and a delegate to lower level conventions, etc. Left (meaning left the party and unsubscribed to everything) R during the TARP shit and RP soon after. That didn’t matter one whit. They kept sending shit and selling my info to other groups/candidates. After a couple years of that I just flagged as spam everything that went through my filters. And soon enough started flagging it all as spam to ISP and hosts and such. Like google for one. They are still spamming – every fucking week now that election season is here – 15 years later.
I would believe that they are simply clueless re how many of their own party members/supporters they have alienated over the last couple decades. But it’s clearly not cluelessness that is driving this lawsuit. It is yet more fraud and posturing.
Fuck you R’s – and all who support them. You keep giving me reasons to become hostile to everything you do. I would take this lawsuit opportunity to donate to the D’s but I’m sure they’re just as bad so I will instead donate to some other anti-R.
Ah, one of those disgusting, vile McCain supporters. That explains a lot.
That may well be, but it does not explain why R mails get sent to spam and D mails do not.
And believe me, there are plenty of people who feel just as strongly about Democrats as you do about Republicans.
one of those disgusting, vile McCain supporters.
RP is Ron Paul. You'd know that if you were even half a wit. And yes he too sold my info on to other ideological allies who have since spammed me.
why R mails get sent to spam and D mails do not.
A. I don't give a shit about your defense of R.
B. I can easily imagine that D's DO unsubscribe someone from a list when that person wants that done.
And believe me, there are plenty of people...
I don't believe you. And while those numbers may have been similar pre-2016, Trump hugely increased the number of R's who left R donor/contact lists. It's why R parties are broke in many states. And why they probably send more money pleas that get flagged as spam.
Obviously very confused regarding RP's views. Or perhaps simply an ignoramus.
RP is Ron Paul. You’d know that if you were even half a wit. And yes he too sold my info on to other ideological allies who have since spammed me.
You do realize that has been a non-partisan practice for decades, now, right?
B. I can easily imagine that D’s DO unsubscribe someone from a list when that person wants that done.
Why, simply because they aren't Republican? There's no real evidence of this other than your own supposition.
You’d know that if you were even half a wit.
A sure sign of a troll is how desperate they are to prove they are smarter than somebody. I have noticed a marked increase in the number of vague references followed by calling the responder stupid for not understanding. JFree is a serial offender.
Hahaha. Yeah my insult is completely out of the blue written as a direct response to someone calling me a disgusting vile McCain supporter.
Fuck you too. Now on mute.
You are disgusting and vile.
And if you supported Republicans in 2008, you are a McCain supporter.
What's the problem?
You are a moron. And now grayed out.
Ah, the Mike Laursen solution to losing an argument.
You are irrelevant.
I'm glad to hear it. That way, I can correct your blithering idiocy without having to deal with your responses.
Let's be clear here: your statement that you were a Republican in 2008, after the abuses of the Bush presidency and during the McCain candidacy tells us all we need to know about you. The fact that you supported Ron Paul's quixotic candidacy only marks out out as even more of a fool.
Hit a nerve?
You do realize that has been a non-partisan practice for decades, now, right?
You do realize you're just making an assertion without evidence for the purpose of confirming a glaringly obvious bias. You contribute to the D's and find out whether they unsubscribe you when that's what you want to do. Or hell head over to Mother Jones comment section and ask people there what happens when you unsubscribe from some D list.
There is a philosophical difference between the parties re data privacy and property ownership and rights of redress. They may both benefit from the lack of any legal structure (eg legislation like ADPPA or GDPR or fucking ANYTHING since the 1970's) but that doesn't mean they treat it the same.
Please show us on the diagram where the bad politician touched you.
Yes indeed! Democrats believe you have no privacy vis-a-vis the government and that the government can take your property at will. They just use "privacy" arguments for regulatory capture and to punish political opponents.
Republicans generally disagree with all these policies.
And R is Republican. McCain was the Republican candidate in 2008.
I'm not "defending R". I'm simply pointing out facts: Google clearly discriminated politically against Republicans and suppressed their mail. They likely did the same thing against Ron Paul and any libertarian.
But you don't care about facts. You've turned into a stark raving lunatic leftist.
Want some brie with that whine?
>> Left ... R during the TARP shit
not a fan of abandoning free-market principles to save the free-market system?
What's rather amusing about the current neocon tantrum towards the GOP is that TARP was the catalyst that finally kicked off the process of extricating them from the party's power base. Their voters had been frustrated with the party for a while, but bailing out a bunch of banks that committed blatant securities fraud was the final straw for a lot of people. It didn't help that they saw McCain implode his presidential campaign in real time when he vainly "suspended" it to go back to DC and grandstand after the bubble popped, while Obama could sit back and act like he was above it all while still voting for the fucking thing.
>>the final straw for a lot of people
c'est moi.
We stared into the abyss. Saw the two-eyed monster of lower house prices and lower stock prices staring back at us. We blinked in dread knowing that that monster can crush us weaklings. We do have something and we got plenty to lose.
What kinda surprised me is - the decade of total silence re what might happen if we ever approach that abyss again.
So I guess it's no surprise that when we approached that abyss again - in Mar2020 - we blinked again. But much faster this time and even more money thrown at the monster.
I was active in R in 2008
So a Bush, Cheney, McCain and Romney supporter. I always thought you were kind of evil.
Tell us more about fraud in regards to covid chicken little.
Bombing brown-skinned folks kinda was your thing, eh?
Everything Is So Terrible And Unfair, J.
Poor baby. Lol.
Google has separate bulk categories for this, separate from spam. In addition, Democrat party mailings don't end up in there.
"Disparate impact" is apparently only a thing for racial discrimination, but not for political discrimination.
Google has separate bulk categories for this, separate from spam.
I think that's true only if you set up your folders accordingly.
In addition, Democrat party mailings don’t end up in there.
A lie.
How so?
As google stated, there was a problem with the RNC domain authentication.
The RNC emails came from RNC.com, whereas the DNC emails came from DNC.com
As you can see, the problem is obvious.
Oh well of course it was problem then. Stop being part of Practically Hitler party.
I doubt it is obvious. I’ve moved on from those emails (it is easy to spoof domains) but I still get text messages and robocalls. And they switch up phone numbers in order to deliberately bypass filters. IOW – they know they are sending unwanted spam. So of course they are going to get reported as doing that.
Have you ever even donated to the R’s or R candidates?
Because Democratic Party emails do end up in spam folders. Not all of them by any means, but at least a few do, so saying that they don't is a lie.
Here's a link to the paper referred to in the judgment:
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2203.16743.pdf
My statement was correct but imprecise; you simply chose to interpret it incorrectly in a way that then let you falsely accuse me of lying.
But thank you for providing the paper that demonstrates beyond any reasonable doubt that Google engages in political discrimination. The judgement is politically motivated garbage, and so are your attempts to excuse the inexcusable:
But thank you for providing the paper that demonstrates beyond any reasonable doubt that Google engages in political discrimination
Lying again. If you don't want to be accused of lying, don't lie.
I quoted the results from the paper you supplied. In controlled experiments, it found consistent biases against Republican E-mails by Google. To me, this proves beyond a reasonable doubt that Google is biased against Republicans.
If it doesn't to you, well, you are either gullible or... lying.
By default, Google has smart folders for "Important", "Inbox", "All Mail", and "Spam". If you don't do anything else, mailing lists should end up in Inbox and personally addressed mail in Important.
If you like, you can tell Google to categorize less important mail into "Social", "Updates", "Forums", and "Promotions".
You don't even know how GMail folders work, but you tell people with no hesitation that they are "lying". That's how you think isn't it?
In fact, I'm simply restating what the lawsuit says. And the court didn't think the allegation was a "lie", it simply says that it was unproven.
See above. The paper SRG2 links to actually shows that Google engaged in politically motivated discrimination. There is no other reasonable explanation for it.
Both the judge and SRG2 engage in verbal acrobatics and obfuscation in order to deny the undeniable.
The only thing you might argue is that Google did engage in deliberate political discrimination but that they have a first amendment right to do so.
The judge appeared to have literally argued that-- see my comment below.
There is no other reasonable explanation for it.
And yet one has already been provided on this very page.
"issues with the RNC's domain authentication."
This is not a reasonable explanation, it's not an explanation at all. All major E-mail providers use domain authentication, so if there was anything wrong external to Google, there would have been problems with these E-mails with other providers as well. But the problems were specific to Google.
In fact, “issues with the RNC’s domain authentication” is weasel words. Companies and governments use that kind of vague language to mislead you without lying.
The fact that they don’t blame the RNC means that the problem was almost certainly at Google. And, in fact, their statement is truthful even if someone at Google deliberately sabotaged RNC domain authentication on their own systems for the express purpose of sending RNC mails to spam.
"“Disparate impact” is apparently only a thing for racial discrimination, but not for political discrimination."
just to be clear.... are you admitting that there is actual racism behind the numbers when the race baiters talk about disparate impact, or are you claiming the courts should force companies to provide "equal outcomes" even when there is no intentional discrimination actually happening?
"... since they were only sent to people who had subscribed at some point to their email lists."
I'd argue that they're all spam because almost nobody uses their own email address to subscribe with. It also goes both ways, I find lots of email in my spam folder from both Andy Kim of NJ and John James of MI. As someone who lives in neither state and couldn't give a rat's ass about either of them I know I didn't sign up but then I don't have any digits at the end of my name in my email address.
"only to have that entity send numerous other emails, many or all of which are no longer relevant or wanted"
I don't know if this was also considered in the decisions, but my own experience of receiving emails from third parties I never interacted with directly who received my addie from someone I DID interact with could also result in my classifying them as spam.
Pedo Pete?
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Is the ruling as discombobulated as the article?
>>U.S. District Judge Daniel Calabretta said it was a "close case"
not necessarily discombobulated, but patronizing for certain.
Hell, I didn't even catch that.
So yeah, something here is very discombobulated.
1. You failed to prove your case and provide sufficient evidence that you were targeted.
2. Even had you presented overwhelming evidence, the case would have been thrown out anyway because Google literally has a right to engage in politically targeted discrimination under section 230 immunity.
3. Man... you almost proved it, RNC, but you couldn't quite take it over the line... better luck next time.
I really dislike voting for judges but Brandon appointing them might be worse
Kind of an odd argument, since Section 230 was really intended to do the opposite.
you are a little off. it is more like
1. you failed to prove it was done intentionally and with malice
2. section 230 allows for spam filters like this.
3. you might have shown you were impacted more, but you failed to make the case that it was wrong or intentional
it really could be as simple as the RNC using language and styles that are more likely to trip spam filters. "no time to lose," "act now," "here is your chance," or whatever other spammy sounding titles they might use.
I'm making no statement as to the right-ness or the wrong-ness of the ruling, I'm merely pointing out the ziggy-zaggy justifications for the ruling.
I stand by what I said based on how this article characterized it.
The RNC "argues that the only reasonable inference for why its emails were labelled as spam is Google's alleged political animus toward the RNC," but "this is pure speculation, lacking facts from which the Court could infer animus or an absence of good faith," wrote Calabretta.
1. They failed to make their case
The judge also pointed out that designating certain emails as spam is the kind of content moderation protected by Section 230. [...]
Section 230 "affords interactive computer service providers immunity from liability for decisions related to blocking and screening of offensive material, or for providing others with the technical means to do so,"
2. They can screen and moderate however they want with impunity, because Section 230.
In a ruling last week, U.S. District Judge Daniel Calabretta said it was a "close case"
3. Almost there, Republicans, but your time was three tenths over.
i see point two is where you are having the real problem, because you are inserting emotions not actually carried by the judgement..... the judgement does not say "however they want" or "with impunity."
actual way it reads
1. you failed to prove they were intentionally discriminating
2. spam filters are a legitimate right they have under section 230.
3. just because you got impacted more does not mean you have a case.
you, instead, chose to insert more than what was actually said for point 2, and that is what is throwing your whole understanding of the situation off the tracks.
Why does that matter? It doesn't matter for any other kinds of discrimination or biases: you are measured on outcomes and statistics, not intention and malice.
it matters because that was the claim the RNC made. that they deliberately set the rules to flag their emails because of their bias.
and am i to understand that a supposed conservative is pushing the notion that equal outcomes must be forced on companies? so things like affirmative action, participation trophies, and wealth redistribution are good now?
No, the RNC (whether their case had merit or not) was arguing that Google shouldn't be discriminating. Whereas the assertion was that Google was applying "affirmative action, participation trophies, and wealth redistribution". Whether or not they were correct-- is a secondary subject.
Republicans wanted their emails to be treated on merit, not shoved to the side so that the underprivileged DNC emails could get shoved to the front of the line.
And they failed.
Remarkable parallels to failure t show election fraud.
" Whereas the assertion was that Google was applying “affirmative action, participation trophies, and wealth redistribution”"
you are not real good at grasping the point...... i never asserted google was doing those things. i was pointing out that the rationale for doing those stupid things is the same as NOYB2's rationale for having a problem with the judgement.... "unequal outcomes," regardless of intentions, design, or any actual discrimination.
I "don't have a problem with the outcome". As far as I'm concerned, the courts decision is ridiculous, but it is also irrelevant. Even if the court had decided differently, it wouldn't change anything. Google has been fully captured by a progressive elite and fully serves its interests.
The only way to deal with Google and the Democratic party is through politics, not the legal process.
"I “don’t have a problem with the outcome”. As far as I’m concerned, the courts decision is ridiculous, "
you can STFU, now.
RTFA:
nice attempt, but they didn't prove that either. (plus... i was originally responding to another commenter who did frame the question as one of the RNC being targeted or not.... so maybe you should not insert yourself into a conversation if you can't be bothered to read the context of THAT CONVERSATION.)
now answer the question.... are you, as a conservative, really pushing the idea that the courts should force "equal outcomes," even when there is no actual discrimination? the question becomes even more relevant if you are abandoning the claim that it was deliberate... and are instead deciding to dig in on some fuzzy idea of unintended "discrimination."
First of all, I’m not a conservative.
Second, it is a fact that Google is effectively just a propaganda arm for the Democratic party. Of course, they deliberately suppressed RNC E-mails, just like all the other things they do in support of the Democratic party.
This court case is just a curiosity. Even if the court ruled against Google, it wouldn’t make any difference, so I don't care either way.
At the root of the problem is the objectively literally fascist nature of the Democratic party. The only solution to that is political, not legal: voters need to come to their senses and vote against Democrat policies in large numbers. Otherwise, it will just keep getting worse.
"First of all, I’m not a conservative.
Second, it is a fact that Google is effectively just a propaganda arm for the Democratic party. Of course, they deliberately suppressed RNC E-mails, just like all the other things they do in support of the Democratic party."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA, SNORT, HAHAHAHAHAHA....
absolutely precious that you would start by claiming not to be stumping for one side.... pause to try and deflect from the fact that you already accepted it was not "deliberate" with your BS "negligence" garbage...... and then immediately jump into a tribalism fueled rage against the opposition....
"This court case is just a curiosity. Even if the court ruled against Google, it wouldn’t make any difference, so I don’t care either way. "
so, you refuse to answer the question..... presumably because you know how the answer reveals your complete hypocrisy..... you know your attempts to demonize the democrats requires doing the exact same shit you supposedly hate them for doing. you know that you are trying to change the rules to make something discrimination when it isn't actually discrimination.... just like they do when they push for more affirmative action and things like that.
"At the root of the problem is the objectively literally fascist nature of the Democratic party."
so you acknowledge that nothing you have said at any point on this thread has had anything to do with the reason you chose to vomit your words upon us.
"The only solution to that is political, not legal: voters need to come to their senses and vote against Democrat policies in large numbers. Otherwise, it will just keep getting worse."
and, finally, you admit that a rational evaluation of this case was never your interest at all. you want to convince people to implement your preferred version of fascism, where nobody would ever dare classify emails supporting your side's divine vision as spam.
I am against the Democrats: I think they have become fascists. Being against Democrats doesn't make me a Republican or a conservative.
Other than the word "discrimination", there is no relationship between "racial discrimination against individuals" and "viewpoint discrimination by Google".
Calling fascists out for the fascist shit they are doing doesn't require me being a fascist.
That is correct. I have limited myself to correcting the bullshit that you and others have written about this case. You have misinterpreted my corrections of your bullshit as me taking a position on the case.
Not at all. I am perfectly happy with private companies operating in a free market engaging in any and all discrimination they want, racial, viewpoint, etc.
But Google is not a private company operating in a free market, they are controlled by parts of the government and in bed with the Democrats: a fascist arrangement like Thyssen and the Nazi party.
"I am against the Democrats: I think they have become fascists. Being against Democrats doesn’t make me a Republican or a conservative."
oh, the "i'm just fighting the war but i'm not actually a soldier" defense....... the point is that you are using the exact same flawed logic they are. you are reaching for outrage where there isn't anything to actually be outraged about, and you are advocating using the power of the state to force "equal outcome."
"Calling fascists out for the fascist shit they are doing doesn’t require me being a fascist."
does not require it, but that is the path you have chosen. you want to use the power of the state to force equal outcome where there is no rational justification to do so.
"That is correct. I have limited myself to correcting the bullshit that you and others have written about this case."
do you even realize you just admitted you are completely full of shit and nothing you say has any rational basis? you have limited yourself to spewing BS and refuse to consider anything rational.
"Not at all. I am perfectly happy with private companies operating in a free market engaging in any and all discrimination they want, racial, viewpoint, etc."
except you are pissed off that this is what the ruling actually upheld..... minus the actual existence of any discrimination.....
"But Google is not a private company operating in a free market, they are controlled by parts of the government and in bed with the Democrats: "
you have officially talked yourself in a circle now. first we were talking about the RNC being targeted.... without proof of that, you tried to dig in on "unintentional" discrimination..... and now you want to go even nuttier than the original claim that was not proven about them being targeted...... the deliberate targeting that could not be proven is now somehow being directed by the government in a way that wasn't even part of the RNC claim.....
The Democrats are fascist because their policy is to subjugate private companies to their political objectives, just like the Nazis did.
You’re saying that I’m “doing exactly the same thing”. I don’t see how posting on a libertarian site complaining about the fascist arrangement between Democrats and Google makes me a fascist too. Feel free to present a coherent argument.
For now, I’m just going to assume that you are what you appear to be: a gullible, ignorant nutcase.
"You’re saying that I’m “doing exactly the same thing”. I don’t see how posting on a libertarian site complaining about the fascist arrangement between Democrats and Google makes me a fascist too. Feel free to present a coherent argument."
as i have explained.... multiple fucking times.... you are arguing to use the power of the state to force "equal outcomes," through unequal actions, specifically to benefit your preferred group. you are basically arguing for reparations, but just changing a couple of the nouns.
but i guess you are too fucking stupid to understand that.... as you openly admit you are rejecting rational arguments, claim you have no problem with the judgement right before describing your problem with the judgement, and flip flop between attempts to move the goal posts to "unintended discrimination," and the absolutely unfounded claim that there is some vast conspiracy beyond anything claimed by anyone in this story anywhere. (of course, with no evidence.)
"For now, I’m just going to assume that you are what you appear to be: a gullible, ignorant nutcase."
you might want to look in a mirror. you are the one grasping at claims your masters didn't even make.
Yes, and as I have told you multiple fucking times: you are hallucinating and lying.
I simply observed that Google is guilty of censorship and bias against Republicans. That has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
Nowhere have I argued that any particular remedies should be applied to Google.
So, the key takeaway is, that had we not had an abortion ban, Penny would have been successfully killed, instead of walking around among us today, because the killing would have been done by a competent?
The key takeaway is that Ron DeSantis wouldn't be lying about her not existing by telling the story about her if we hadn't had an abortion ban because she'd be dead.
Key points distilled for further effect (NSFW): Ron DeSantis lying, abortion ban.
they explained this very poorly, but the concern is the woman who had a coat hanger shoved in her and other dangerous acts because there was no safe option for an abortion.
the truth is that this makes a terrible example for either side of the argument to use. that was the point that they were trying to make, but they couldn't turn off the bias enough to fully express it.
pro-lifers have to contend with the demonstration that an abortion ban caused women to be exposed to great risks. (the thing they are so keen to point out.)
pro-choicers have to contend with the living person walking around. (the point they tried as hard as possible to ignore.)
but that is the abortion debate...... it is not as simple as either side wants to pretend. either way, you are supporting death.
Look, personally I don't care whether women hire Dr. Mengele to scrape out their fetuses.
But opposing abortions is not "supporting death", just like prohibiting drugs is not "supporting death". In both cases, it is the personal choice of the woman and the drug addict that causes death, not the law.
There are lots of arbitrary laws that exist and that we all need to comply with or face grave consequences. As long as I have to comply with arbitrary tax laws, women and doctors have to comply with arbitrary abortion laws or face the consequences.
“As long as I have to comply with arbitrary tax laws, women and doctors have to comply with arbitrary abortion laws or face the consequences.”
i know you were hungry to find something else to disagree with me because i made you look like a complete idiot, but really?!?!?! you're making the argument that we should have bad laws because there are other bad laws? that is the best you can come up with? you think we should force morality through legislation and abolish any concept of body autonomy because you have to pay taxes? i guess this is what you get with people who are motivated by anger and not principle.
I'm sure the progressive activist judge in California is as unbiased as he could possibly be.
Probably a Pelosi relative too!
Wrong approach RNC. It was the Biden Administration.
Get the Google files then you'd have a case.
Then again; what exactly has been done about the Twitter files?
"The aforementioned study did find that Gmail marked many more right-leaning candidate emails than left-leaning candidate emails as spam in new accounts created by researchers."
The the reasoning behind "disparate impact" only applies when it can be used against the right.
That's Joe Biden. appointee U.S. District Judge Daniel Calabretta ruled the fact that Google is censoring RNC emails but not DNC emails is NOT a sign that Google is intentionally biased against Republicans.
And that would be because U.S. District Judge Daniel Calabretta is intentionally biased against Republicans, so sees Google's behavior as "normal".
But hey, good job pushing your dishonest left wing BS desires