Alabama Set To Try New, Untested Execution Method
The state has filed a motion to set an execution date for Kenneth Eugene Smith, who survived a previous execution attempt.

Alabama wants to execute a man so badly that they're likely to become the first state in the nation to kill someone by nitrogen hypoxia.
Kenneth Eugene Smith, 58, who was sentenced to death for a 1988 murder-for-hire killing, has already survived one execution attempt from the state. Last November, he won a court case allowing him to demand to be executed specifically by nitrogen hypoxia, a method that has been approved in Alabama since 2018 but has remained untested.
Nonetheless, Alabama Attorney General Steve Marshall still asked the state Supreme Court to set an execution date for Smith last week, with plans to use the method.
While four states in addition to Alabama have approved execution by lethal gas, no one has been executed using this method since 1999. While 20th-century gas chambers typically killed inmates using cyanide gas, death by nitrogen hypoxia is a completely untested method. Under the proposed process, an inmate would be placed in a gas chamber, where they would be forced to breathe pure nitrogen, ultimately causing death by suffocation due to the lack of oxygen.
After long arguing that they should be allowed to kill Smith by lethal injection because the state had not yet developed a nitrogen hypoxia protocol, state officials unveiled a formal nitrogen hypoxia process in conjunction with their motion to set Smith's execution date. Under the process, the inmate will wear a mask, which will force them to breathe pure nitrogen gas "for 15 minutes, or five minutes following a flatline indication on the EKG, whichever is longer," resulting in death by suffocation.
Smith won the right to be executed by this method in a ruling from the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit last November. Smith argued that a lethal injection attempt would expose him to "an intolerable risk of torture, cruelty, or substantial pain," citing the state's previous botched executions.
The same day as the 11th Circuit's ruling, the U.S. Supreme Court lifted a stay of execution for Smith. Alabama officials attempted to kill him by lethal injection that day, but they abandoned their attempt after they tried unsuccessfully for several hours to place IV needles in Smith's arms.
While nitrogen hypoxia has been touted as a more humane method for killing death-row inmates—it's simply unknown how much suffering death by nitrogen hypoxia causes.
"It's not humane," Joel Zivot, an associate professor of anesthesiology and surgery at Emory University, told the Montgomery Advertiser last year. "It's not going to be euphoric. You know, it may be bloodless, but it won't be simple."
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Last November, he won a court case allowing him to demand to be executed specifically by nitrogen hypoxia, a method that has been approved in Alabama since 2018 but has remained untested.
Sounds like Kenneth Eugene Smith will be the first trial.
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If it is unknown how much (if any) suffering is due to nitrogen hypoxia, how can Reason cite Joel Zivot, for the proposition that it is "not humane".
Be honest and fair. Be better than this article.
re: "it's simply unknown how much suffering death by nitrogen hypoxia causes."
That is simply not true. We have very extensive evidence of the amount of suffering felt by those who succumb to nitrogen hypoxia through the history of industrial accidents involving nitrogen-filled rooms. Those who die do so with no evidence that they even knew they were dying. Those who succumb but are rescued report no suffering or injury (other than would be expected from either the fall as they went unconscious or the inherent brain damage from oxygen deprivation - neither of which are relevant here).
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Ill pay you 90$ an hour to test nitrogen hypoxia.
That is simply not true.
Yeah, it’s not that the fact is not known. It’s just not known as to what depths of stupidity Emma will subject herself and others to in order to cling to her magical beliefs.
The above description is correct. The reason is the respiratory drive is caused primarily by the buildup of CO2 in the blood. The hypoxic drive is much weaker and loss of consciousness occurs with generating distress or pain.
Nonetheless, this requires a helluva lot more equipment and preparation that a 9 or 10 mm HP or sintered metal (frangible) projectile inserted at 1000+ fps just below the inion (external occipital protruberance) which method is also painless, in addition to being immediate, and fail-proof.
And that concludes Carey Allison’s demonstration of the painlessness and, at worst, sedate incoherence as the result of blood gas displacement.
Not really. As Toranth points out below, this technique has been used on animals for decades. It takes very little equipment. Potentially as little as a modest-sized tank of liquid nitrogen and a reasonably sealable room.
Your proposed choice takes more (though still not much) equipment but more importantly, requires quite a bit more precision and skill on the part of the executioner.
It's also been widely used to kill animals since at least the 1980s, and has been the subject a a great deal of research. Some of the early research dates back to the 1920s, in fact.
So, yeah, a century or so of science pointing out that nitrogen asphyxiation causes painless deaths in most mammals means it is not "untested".
Rossami:
Confirmed by an accident at NASA, three men died in a Nitrogen-filled chamber, apparently without realizing anything was going wrong.
https://roundupreads.jsc.nasa.gov/roundup/1648
Ill also point out people who succumb or recover from carbon monoxide poisoning have no idea they were any danger until they are already dead, or they have headaches or brain damage after being rescued.
Just make sure their is no rescue and there will be no pain.
Nah, actually if it's gradual, you get a headache before you lose consciousness.
No time for that with nitrogen asphyxiation, of course, because it's not exactly gradual.
Unless, you know, you use a possibly ill fitted mask that might leak air, instead of just having them sit in a booth you flood with N2; Did somebody deliberately look for a way to introduce at least some possibility of screwing up into an otherwise fool proof execution method? It's not like N2 is so expensive they need to economize.
The research I've seen disagrees, though it seems to depend on the exact mix of CO2 and CO1 in the environment.
CO1 preferentially binds to the hemoglobin receptors and prevents oxygen from getting transported by your blood. Pure CO1 will turn you bright red but otherwise will kill you quickly. However, CO1 usually occurs in combination with lots of CO2 and will degrade into CO2 fairly quickly (at the right temperature and conditions). And CO2 poisoning is, well, still not painful according to reports but very panic-inducing. That sense of inability to breath is not actually a reaction to oxygen deficit. That feeling is induced by an inability to get the excess CO2 out of your blood.
This is exactly why nitrogen asphyxiation is preferred - the CO2 can still leave your system and you just run out of oxygen without ever getting any biological clues.
So if this were ranked choice voting, the killer would presumably pick unconditional release, then life in prison, then execution by hypoxia.
If the first two alternatives are ruled out, then why not give him his third choice?
This.
Not this, damn you reason
This is some messed-up stuff:
“Prosecutors said Smith and another man were each paid $1,000 to kill Elizabeth Sennett by her husband Reverend Charles Sennett, who was in deep debt and wanted to collect on insurance. He killed himself a week after his wife’s death, when the murder investigation started to focus on him as a suspect.
“John Forrest Parker, the other man convicted in the killing, was executed in 2010.”
Plus, the jury wanted to spare Kenneth Smith's life 11-1, but the judge imposed the death penalty anyway – an override procedure no longer allowed in Alabama. So those who want to shed tears over that can do so.
https://www.newsweek.com/kenneth-smith-alabama-execution-murder-hire-killing-1760323
And it seems there’s a movie about the case, summarized here:
https://thecinemaholic.com/elizabeth-dorlene-sennett-murder/
Alabama Set To Try New, Untested Execution Method
Forcing him to translate SQRLSY into comprehensible English until his head explodes?
They have to respect the 8th Amendment.
The real-world equivalent of Vogon poetry?
Given their bureaucratic nature, at lease Vogon poetry would be well structured.
Thus Spake Sqrlsy
https://twitter.com/i/status/1694331209009041807
>>has already survived one execution attempt from the state.
Alabama should not be allowed two bites at the apple. also, how about not killing anyone in the name of l'Etat?
That's nothing. I heard of a case in Alabama where they tried to wrongly convict 2 kids of killing a store clerk after stealing a can of tuna.
wait, I shot the clerk?
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She was indeed almost absurdly hot.
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Something my mom gave me when I told her I hated grits and would like to only eat one.
It's pretty small.
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>>Liked her in
everything.
He's given Alabama the perfect way to execute him, i.e. '.... The coroner testified that the 45-year-old woman had been stabbed eight times in the chest and once on each side of the neck. ...' by Smith. He got $1,000 for his pay.
That's 100 bucks a stab! Man, I got into the wrong line of work.
If you're going to kill a prisoner, just put him into general pop and pay some scumbag a carton of cigarettes to shank his ass. If you're going to let people sit on death row for 20 or 30 years and only execute one every few years, just admit you're not enforcing a death penalty anyways and give it up.
But cigarettes are unhealthy!
I can’t think of a crueler punishment than to put a man in a cage with his death scheduled in a few months or years, then to subject him to an endless stream of lawyers with schemes to reset that date again and again but never any realistic plan to get him out of prison alive, until 30 years later someone decides they’d better hurry up and execute him before he dies of natural causes.
We sentence just a few out of many murderers to death, pretty much at random. But we've _accidentally_ arranged a course of punishment so horrendous it may even be worse than what they deserve.
Alabama Set To Try New, Untested Execution Method
Would you feel better if it had been tested and thoroughly vetted?
Nothing says, "Modern, Post-Millennial Woman" like "I want an execution method that's 100% safe and effective, with no downsides."
The thing is nitrogen asphyxiation is Effective, pain-free, with no downsides.
Many people have been killed with nitrogen in industrial accidents. animals have been euthanized with it for decades without any signs of distress.
So this hysterical millennial woman can feel safe knowing that the criminal will die in a pain-free manner
That’s my only problem with nitrogen asphyxiation as an execution method – it’s too clean and bloodless. I’d prefer public guillotining, with death in all its horror and blood spraying onto the onlookers. Make it quite clear that we collectively believe some crimes are terrible enough to punish by killing in cold blood.
OTOH, I’d prefer no executions. Our government is not competent to decide who dies. IOM, many criminals deserve execution, but far fewer are executed, and they seem to be chosen more often for stupidity and being unfortunate enough to draw a poor public defender than for the gravity of their crimes.
The opposition to nitrogen asphyxiation aren't against it because they imagine it is inhumane. They are against it because it is another way to implement the death penalty - and they'd be perfectly willing to let a thousand innocent men rot away in prison in order to concentrate on saving the life of one monster.
Why can't they use something like the pills prescribed to the terminally ill in states that allow suicide? Those seem to make pretty quick work of the dying process.
The euthanasia used for household pets also seems to work pretty well.
The problem with all of this execution stuff is that whatever the process used, it is implemented by non-expert correction people that are just winging the attempt.
Any human, no mater their prior transgressions, deserves better than this. But some states just seem to be in love with brutal execution methods.
How about a widely used, painless, simple suicide method that can be easily administered by novices with no special training and no concerns about dosage... like nitrogen asphyxiation?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inert_gas_asphyxiation
Pills work for someone who wants to participate in the process. Pills are a lot harder to force down the throat of an unwilling victim. Furthermore, the pills are usually an opiod overdose delivered to a patient who has been on opiods for a long time and has a tolerance such that they are unlikely to be regurgitated. It's just not a technique that's going to work for executions.
The method used for household pets is, quite often, nitrogen asphyxiation.
Re: skill level - You have a point but I think we have bigger problems if we ever get to the point where we are executing so many people that it's not non-expert. But it's a small point because all of human history shows that killing people is not actually all that hard.
re: brutal execution methods - Now you're showing your bias. Some people, because of their prior transgressions, deserve a whole lot more than a painless (or even modestly painful) execution. I oppose the death penalty but I don't pretend that it's because the criminals don't deserve it.
I recently had to have a cat put a cat to sleep (otherwise it would have been death from dehydration and starvation--kidney failure) and I didn't even know he was gone. It was instantaneous and I was holding him. I don't know what they used but he felt no pain.
Hey, in the good old days, when people survived an execution attempt, it was considered divine intervention / evidence of innocence.
it means he's a duck.
Good News: You survive an execution attempt and divine intervention spares your life.
Bad News: Untested methods of determining who’s alive and who’s dead means you’re more likely to wind up on the cart full of “dead” bodies.
I think I'll go for a walk.
The other way around.
If the water won't receive you, you're guilty. Only if you drown are you innocent.
That was a different test. And at a different point in history.
People don't get turned into newts nowadays.
Gingrich is pouting right about now.
Only if they don't bring me a shrubbery.
Captain Kidd, at least, didn't get the benefit of the one-try-only principle:
"...Kidd’s rope snapped and he fell to the ground with the noose round his neck, still alive and dazed. The pestering chaplain prayed over him once more and he was hoisted up again, and that was that. His body was taken to be hanged in chains at Tilbury Point."
https://www.historytoday.com/archive/months-past/execution-captain-kidd
It is known that it causes none.
Which is arguably insufficient as punishment.
I don't see why you have to torture someone you're going to execute.
Because most humans have a sense of justice that believes that punishment should reflect the crime. Therefore, someone who caused great suffering to others arguably should at least experience some suffering themselves before death.
You're free to disagree, but that's probably the predominant view among humans, and has been for thousands of years.
You don't have to, it's just satisfying. Reinhard Heydrich, for example, apparently had excruciating pain for several days before the son of a bitch succumbed to abdominal gunshot wounds. Nothing close to what he deserved, though.
Adolf Eichman, by contrast, got the quick neck-snap.
-jcr
It's not so much that I want to torture them, as that I'm not obsessive about it being totally painless.
Seriously, I've been through emergency medical procedures where they close the door and tell you it's OK to scream, and if I can be expected to endure that crap when I was innocent, somebody who casually murdered somebody for pizza money suffering a bit isn't going to peg my outrage meter.
I just wouldn't go out of the way to make sure it hurts, that's all.
They should have a rule: If the suffering from an execution method is not greater than the suffering from one month of being on death row, it should automatically be permitted.
"Alabama Set To Try New, Untested Execution Method"
If you are going to criticize a new execution method for being "untested", I think you ought to explain how you think it should be tested (other than by actually using it to execute someone).
And, in fact, the method has been tested, by hundreds of volunteers over the past few years. It is effective, reliable, and painless.
If I ever want to commit suicide, this will be the way.
In other news, Mississippi, Louisiana, Georgia and South Carolina have all changed their state motto to:
At least we're not Alabama.
Oxygen deprivation is a well understood way of killing someone, particularly aerobic life.
GTFO with this untested bullshit.
He looks so happy in his mugshot. Happiest mugshot ever.
To be fair, maybe he wasn't happy at the murder he committed; maybe he was so high on drugs he couldn't help smiling.
I don't think there's a legal or moral problem with the method being untested if he himself demanded this method.
There might be a moral problem with executions in the first place, but that's a whole other argument.
If it's Alabama, does it involve a cliff, a rope, a body of water, and/or a jet ski?
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So death penalty opponents are invoking the precautionary principle against nitrogen hypoxia as a method of execution, not out of fear that it will not work as claimed but out of fear that it will and therefore remove the “cruel and unusual” punishment argument from their legal objections to the death penalty.
Whatever you think of the death penalty, the tactics of anti-death penalty activists are appallingly cynical and dishonest.
I'd like to see slaughterhouses try out nitrogen hypoxia. No need to stress the cattle out before we eat them.
-jcr
NEW - nitrogen infused beef steaks to rival Kobe beef
Probably pairs well with nitrogen infused beer.
Why don’t they just use what vets use to put animals to sleep? How about something humane like heroin or fentanyl overdose? How about anethesia overdose? The punishment of “the death penalty” should be death; not the pain of dying.
The person who had the pain of being repeatedly stabbed by this monster before they died might not agree with you there.
I have never understood why we just don't give them a heroin overdose. It kills and they go unconscious quickly.
As an anesthesiologist I can tell you that the amount of drugs that some people can tolerate is truly phenomenal.
There are some people who no matter how much heroin or fentanyl you give them them will not die from it.
Nitrogen hypoxia has killed many people in industrial accidents.
Usually it is the rescuers who go in after the first victim who are dragged out by still other rescuers and resuscitated.
These people uniformly report no symptoms at all from breathing pure nitrogen until they go unconscious.
Nitrogen hypoxia has been used to euthanize animals for decades and the animals show no signs of distress.
The only problem I have with Alabama is that they are going to use a mask over the persons face.
Instead of just filling a sealed room up with nitrogen, they’re adding a mask which could conceivably not fit properly and would not kill the person.
Why have low intelligence department of corrections people set a mask over a persons face which might have problems sealing with beards, receding chins etc.?
Seal a closet sized room, close the door and open the nitrogen tank.
Nitrogen is cheap, and having a competent engineer seal the room is child’s play.
So why would they introduced the possibility of error into the execution process?
Why don't they just buy one of those 'suicide pods' that Canada borrowed from the Futurama pilot episode?
"...who survived a previous execution attempt."
Not even Jesus could pull that shit off. I say we let the guy go, he earned it.
All of the techniques currently used for execution are intended to be "bloodless". Why? A bullet or two to the brain is quick, painless and causes instantaneous death. That said, I'm opposed to the death penalty. Knowing that some crimes deserve it, it's fallible human beings that judge it and impose it. Juries quite often get it wrong, as all of the prison releases after DNA testing have shown us.
I’m with you on both points.
If we are going to kill people, do it with a bullet to the head at noon on the courthouse steps.
You have to be really bad at your job if you can't kill a man tied to a chair.
Like, no one had a belt? A necktie? A *shoe*?
but has remained untested.
I mean, its *not* ‘untested’.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inert_gas_asphyxiation
" In the US, at least 80 people died from accidental nitrogen asphyxiation between 1992 and 2002."
Its pretty darn effective. CO2 asphyxiation is a normal form of culling chicken flocks in production. CO poisoning is a real danger in homes with gas appliances today – and not exactly an uncommon suicide method.
This is actually a fairly ‘humane’ way to murder someone. As far as that goes.
There was actually a guy who used to go around helping people kill themselves using this method. You might remember Dr K, Reason.