Trump Floats Tariff Plan That Will Make Everything More Expensive
The "Tariff Man" promises to strike again.

Inflation apparently has not been high enough in the few years since former President Donald Trump left office—so he's proposing new import taxes that will raise prices for American families and businesses.
In an interview last week with Larry Kudlow, the former president floated plans for a new 10 percent tariff on all imports to the United States. Trump described the proposal as putting "a ring around the collar" of the U.S. economy.
"When companies come in and they dump their products in the United States, they should pay, automatically, let's say a 10 percent tax," Trump said on Fox Business. "I do like the 10 percent for everybody."
On Tuesday, The Washington Post reported that the same topic was discussed Monday night at a Trump campaign strategy meeting in Bedminster, New Jersey. According to the Post, the plan being discussed would include a "'universal baseline tariff' on virtually all imports to the United States" and figures to be a major plank in Trump's 2024 presidential campaign.
For starters, kudos to Trump for correctly describing his plan as a tax. Because that's exactly what this would be: a tax hike on American businesses and consumers who purchase products from abroad. Currently, the average U.S. tariff is about 3 percent—though they vary widely depending on what item is being imported and from where.
That's the only detail worth praising, however.
As Trump should have learned after hiking tariffs on steel, aluminum, and loads of goods imported from China during his term in office, import taxes do little more than hike costs for American consumers and businesses. A recent report by the International Trade Commission concluded that Americans "bore nearly the full cost of these tariffs because import prices increased at the same rate as the tariffs." Economists Mary Amiti, Stephen J. Redding, and David Weinstein have calculated that the tariffs directly reduced Americans' income by a cumulative $1.4 billion per month.
Those costs are still adding up, since the Biden administration has largely left Trump's tariffs in place—despite Biden's (accurate) assessment on the campaign trail in 2019 that "any beginning econ student at Iowa or Iowa State could tell you the American people are paying his tariffs." Meanwhile, Congress has not done anything to limit or rescind executive power over trade policy in the wake of Trump's abuse of those powers.
Among people who actually understand economics, Trump's newest proposal has been roundly criticized.
"Protective tariffs are punitive taxes on people's expenditures of their incomes," Don Boudreaux, a senior fellow at the Mercatus Center, a free market think tank housed at George Mason University, tells Reason. "It's an utter mystery why Trump believes that ordinary Americans, whose interests he claims to represent, would be enriched by the government imposing even heavier taxes on their spending choices."
Adam Posen, president of the Peterson Institute for International Economics (PIIE), a trade-focused think tank, told the Post that Trump's proposal was "lunacy" and "horrifying."
Rep. Don Beyer (D–Va.), who has cosponsored a bipartisan bill to require presidents to gain approval from Congress before implementing tariffs for the purposes of national security, called Trump's proposal "idiotic, illegal, and…a disaster for our economy" in a statement released Tuesday.
Beyer said any attempt at implementing universal 10 percent tariffs would "immediately violate numerous trade agreements, including the United States–Mexico–Canada Agreement which Trump himself signed."
Even from a purely political point of view—that is, without the obvious economic and legal ramifications—this seems utterly absurd.
Trump is a Republican running for office against an incumbent Democrat whose policies have contributed to rising inflation—and yet his tariff plan amounts to a promise to raise taxes, and prices, on Americans. Any other Republican would be laughed off the campaign trail for promising to raise taxes by 10 percent.
Trump remains the clear frontrunner to win the Republican nomination.
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Ignoring corporate theft and increased costs for security already makes things more expensive. I never see articles regarding that here.
Estimated 250-600B a year in costs. That does not include the cost of increasing security to prevent the theft.
https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/china-exec-summary-risk-to-corporate-america-2019.pdf
Federal government alone spends 65B on internet security.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/ap_16_it_fy2023.pdf
So while you are worried about the 100B in estimated tariff costs as compared to the costs from rampant theft... you seem to not be having an honest conversation. On top of that there are the other downstream effects like less money on R&D as it is replaced with spending on theft and lawsuits.
But keep ignoring reality. It is complicated once you start going past bumper stickers.
I also hope one day Boehm learns about the cost of supply chain risks, I mean we just lived through it during Covid. Supplier shifts do exist so extending supply chains to more countries also reduces supply disruption (which is in fact a cost as shown on an accounting ledger).
This is also an amusing article right after the article about illegal immigration that doesn't speak to the taxpayer cost, cost to rents due to higher supply, etc.
So Reason doesn't really care about all cost sources to citizens. Just certain ones.
Marching orders must be followed.
Marching orders must be followed, into abject poverty for the USA, that Orange Dick may be sucked BETTER!!!!
https://reason.com/2020/01/22/trump-campaigned-on-saving-factory-jobs-but-u-s-manufacturing-just-went-through-a-year-long-recession/
Clear-cut case below, showing the UTTER FAILURE of protectionism in general, and Trumpist protectionism specifically:
Meanwhile in the real world…
https://reason.com/2019/04/22/trumps-washing-machine-tariffs-cleaned-out-consumers/
Trump’s Washing Machine Tariffs Cleaned Out Consumers
A new report finds the tariffs raised $82 million for the U.S. Treasury but ended up increasing costs for consumers by about $1.2 billion.
PROTECTIONISM DOESN’T WORK!!! DUH!!!
Protect American washing-machine makers from Chinese competition? The FIRST thing that American washing-machine makers do, is jack UP their prices… AND the prices of dryers to boot, too! To SOAK the hell out of all of us consumers!!!
From the above-linked Reason article about washing machines…
“All told, those tariffs raised about $82 million for the U.S. Treasury but ended up increasing costs for consumers by about $1.2 billion during 2018 … (deleted). Although the trade policy did cause some manufacturers to shift production from overseas to the United States in an effort to avoid the new tariffs, the 1,800 jobs created by Trump’s washing machine tariffs cost consumers an estimated $820,000 per job.”
Summary: Nickels and dimes to the USA treasury; boatloads of pain for consumers. USA jobs created? Yes, at GREAT expense! Putting these 1.8 K workers on a super-generous welfare program would have been WAY better for all the rest of us! Plus, you know the WORKERS don’t make super-huge bucks (no $820,000 per job for THEM); the goodies flow to the EXECUTIVES at the top of the washing-machine companies! The same ones who play golf with The Donald, and join him for gang-banging Stormy Daniels! Essentially at our expense!
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Wherein JesseAz has to handle the cognitive dissonance of his own knowledge of economics set against Trump's ignorance and does so by deflecting.
Your use of cognitive dissonance makes no sense in regards to my post shrike. Wish you idiots would learn the definitions of words you've heard before using them.
Still not shrike, you cretin. And I note you don't address the substantive point. I am well aware of the meaning of cognitive dissoance, and it is evident that you are faced with it in this instance. Import-wide tariffs you know to a sign of economic illiteracy yet your Dear Leader has advocated for them. Perhaps the dissonance isn't as pronounced as in clinical cases, but it assuredly is there. And then you deflect.
Wouldn't even a modicum of journalistic integrity require that Reason articles like this carry a notice that Joe Biden and the Democrat National Committee approve this article?
No excuse for not understanding Tariff vs. Tax. Tariffs are meant for Foreign goods to allow American companies to compete with the cost. Trump proposed leveling the field so America companies could return here to set up their businesses and employ American workers - get it?? Import taxes are so out of balance that it allows China, Indonesia, Pakistan, etc. to manufacuter & import products at a lower cost than our own companies. Trump's program would even it out to allow a fairer playing field for our own people !
Semantics aside it certainly would go a long way toward equalizing things. The problem is that what it would equalize will be the standards of living for Americans with those of the countries we are importing from.
I understand the sentiment behind your comment it just has the problem of being economically illiterate. The only way to truly level the playing field would be to lower the wages of American workers and other production cost to those of the countries, like China, that we import from. Pretending that a tariff will accomplish this rather than just being an arbitrary burden placed on the American consumer where only the government benefits is simply wrong.
As far as the tax versus tariff goes it has the same effect whether you place a tariff on foreign goods or grant a tax break to domestic suppliers. It doesn't matter what you call it either path only ends with higher costs for Americans.
I also hope one day Boehm learns about the cost of supply chain risks
For this reason, I do think it'd be better if Trump was talking about crippling the EPA so that it's actually worth bringing more manufacturing back.
Crippling the EPA again and more permanently.
And I think we'd agree that it would be better to have more candidates and bureaucrats besides Trump doing so.
Whatabout what now? How do you feel about a major tax hike and a plan for increased inflation?
The Steelworkers Unions were begging Obama for tariffs. When Trump gave them the very tariffs that they wanted, they protested against them. Figure it out.
The main Reason mantra these days is to dump on Trump.
Marching orders is right.
I also hope one day Boehm learns about the cost of supply chain risks,
As good as the “Trump is simultaneously a moron and a political genius that requires all of the media, silicon valley, and several state’s attorneys’ offices to stop.” narrative is, there’s also a sub-narrative that’s pretty good too:
While Boehm was sitting around pouring over PIIE and NBER reports about a week ago, he heard Trump float a 10% tariff idea on Kudlow’s show (which Boehm had on in the background for no particular reason at all). Intrigued, he phoned up his friends Mary Amiti, Stephen J. Redding, and David Weinstein at the ITC and his old buddy Don Boudreaux at Mercatus. Hearing their thoughts and opinions, he decided that he had to pull together a piece on all of this demonstrating how wrong the idea was.
That, or Boehm is just regurgitating a bunch of sources and quotes that someone else, with connections to the various think tanks, pulled together for him in knee-jerk response to Trump saying something.
I’m going with scenario #2.
I just got through reading/commenting on Joe Lancaster's article where he includes a sentence indicating increasing popularity of EVs among Americans (in the face of rising inventory) with a link that flat out says EV popularity is down and the popularity of ICE bans is down.
It's uninformed, illiterate commentors copy-posting politically-funded-think-tank talking points all the way down.
how's it feel to mouthpiece for the Banana Republicans?
This republic is bananas! B-A-N-A-N-A-S!!!
Still preferable to the current regime that wants to regulate away ICEs, gas stoves, suburban subdivisions, etc
i.e., "whatabout...?"
Or maybe “trade off”?
I miss when conservatives stood for economic liberty.
When Reagan implemented Tariffs? When they supported NAFTA? When both Bush’s implemented tariffs?
When was this mythical time when you thought everyone was ignorant of markets like yourself?
There is a difference between freer trade and naive trade.
I'm sure Eisenhower gave cities/states/citizens fair value when the Interstate system was done.
Both parties suck, but Democrats seem more interested in individual liberty, sadly.
The party of extended lockdowns, mandatory masking, vaccine passports, banning gas stoves, banning ICE vehicles, banning firearms, raising minimum wages, and pushing to arrest parents who are upset with local school boards is clearly interested in individual liberty.
Ahh. Sarc socking as jeff. That idiot says the same ignorant bullshit. See list above by ATM.
The party telling you what car to drive, what stove to use, what can be used to heat your home, demanded medical info to do anything in society, that used banks to attack their political rivals and intel agencies to spy on them --- is more interested in individual liberty?
You see, to Jeffy/Shrike/Laursen, that's just life. To them, personal liberty is being able to have an abortion in the 4th trimester, smoke weed, have a drag queen read to their kids, liberalize sex work, have open borders, and food trucks. If it's not that, it's not "real libertarianism" to them. Can't you see that that's the most important thing in the world?
Trump Floats Tariff Plan That Will Make Everything More Expensive
You do realize, that whether you agree with tariffs or disagree with them, that's what they're supposed to do, right?
Of course. The 10% tax is designed to be a punishment for those who wish to acquire goods from other nations and not the vendor in the U.S. Why do conservatives wish to be told what they can and cannot do by a bunch of a-holes in Washington?
They still have the option, no one is taking that away, it's not a ban.
Is it a ban when taxes reach 99%? 99.99999%? Jesus titty-fucking Christ, WHEN will brainwashed ideological ideological idiots see that PROPERTY = FREEDOM? Can I take away 99% of your drinking water and food, and ye will STILL insist that you STILL have some "freedom" and "options" left? Do you LOVE boot-licking and SLAVERY?
Well no. Many times they are in response yo anti free market actions that already aritificially increase costs and risks domestically. Not all tariffs are protectionist. Dems do prefer theater though.
I'm sure you're fine with Biden giving China tens of billions for things like solar panels that inherently bias the market against domestic producers though.
Conservatives aren't anti-tax, they are anti-China-dependency.
Even further, rather specifically anti-ChiCom-dependency.
10% tax on everything from China? Conservatives: Good!
10% tax on everything from China, 0% tax on anything from Taiwan? Consertatives (and some Libertarians): Better!
10% tax on everything from China, 0% tax on anything from Taiwan or Tibet? Conservatives (and some Libertarians and some Progressives): Even better!
Thanks to the supreme court I now have to pay state sales tax for items I bought out of state. In Illinois it’s 10% and they even tax the postage costs. Did anyone at Reason complain about that?
Has anyone noticed the rapid rise of postage from Europe? Item costs 10 euro, shipping costs 30 euro and up. It's like Europe is charging an export tariff.
DREAMY LIBERTARIAN!
No, that would be Governor McDreamy of Colorado.
That's literally the point of tariffs, to try to encourage more production at home.
You could argue that's a bad idea, but pointing out that something does what it's supposed to do is silly.
The other thing is that a lot of the crap we import from China is very poor quality. It might be cheap, but it doesn't last. Sometimes in the long time, maybe most times, it's better to pay more for a higher quality product that will last longer.
Isn't that a decision for consumers, not the government?
Sure. If they pick up the cost shift for everyone paying for the cost of theft from China. Have no problem them making the choice shrike.
If a mob sets up a store of stolen goods undercutting the business they stole from, do you also ask for no police and to let consumers choose?
You're confusing two things - cheap imports from China with no particular IP implications, and imports from China derived from IP theft. The former category includes clothing, shoes, sports equipment, furniture, etc. And let consumers decide whether they want to go cheap or pay up.
There is no direct mechanism inherent in tariffs to create more domestic production. At best, it creates a vague incentive for more domestic production without addressing other factors that might keep domestic production from increasing.
On the other hand, the one thing tariffs do directly is make goods more expensive.
So does theft. Did you have a point? So do regulations. Did you have a point?
It is a bad idea. It will fail to encourage production at home. Trump has a kindergarten idea of tariffs. Even things produced in the US use supplies, parts, machines etc. from abroad. Prices would skyrocket under this plan. I'm sure he'll upgrade it soon that Mexico will pay the tariff though.
One must incentivize domestic production first with ITCs for new capital equipment. Higher prices are not enough to motivate new capacity investments by domestic producers. Trump’s tariffs disrupted supply chains and taxes both domestic consumers and producers. Essentially Trump executed a defacto expropriation of the means of production. Ergo -Trump is a socialist.
A nonsensical plan from an economic illiterate.
https://honesteconomics.substack.com/
The "Tariff Man" promises to strike again.
Find that hayseed and get him to turn this into a new country song.
Now summertime's here babe
Need somethin' to raise your cost
Ah now summertime's here babe
Need somethin' to raise your cost
You better look out now
'Cause ol' Don's got somethin' for you
I'm the tarriff man
Stop me when I'm passin' by
I'm the tarriff man
Stop me when I'm passin' by
See all my tarriffs are guaranteed to satisfy
Not bad at all. 'Candy Man' I presume.
I was thinking of Rocket Man:
Trump picked my pockets last night pre-flight
Zero hour 9:00 a.m.
And I'm gonna be broke
As a bum by then
I miss liberty so much I miss my life
It's lonely without Nancy Mace
On such a worthless flight
And I think it's gonna be a long, long time
'Til Tariff Man brings me 'round again to find
I'm not the rich man they think I am at home
Oh, no, no, no
I'm not a MAGA man
Tariff Man, burning up my cash up here alone
Not bad at all. ‘Candy Man’ I presume.
I feel pity for you.
I wouldn’t feel pity for him even if here were bathed in white phosphorus.
What is the cost compared to the regulatory and energy costs increases from the Biden administration.
Whatabout what, now? Yeah Biden economic policies are terrible, and Trump just one-upped him.
Here's your Trump apologist angle: you can't take him literally. It was an off the cuff comment. Not even Trump is oblivious to enact this plan.
Once again the Socialist tax or on chief Trump floats a bad idea. Tariffs or import export bans on enemy states, Understandable – on our Allie’s as well- pure Socialism and taxation without representation. When will Trumpers get that Trump is not an American Conservative- rather the American Stalin?
In non retard please.
We have a libertarian translator here. Now we need a retard translator.
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Little ones to GAWD belong,
We are weak, but GAWD is strong!
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My Nannies tell me so!
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Shelters me from bad drugs and weed,
And gives me all that I might need!
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My Nannies tell me so!
DEA, CIA, KGB,
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FBI, TSA, and FDA,
With us, astride us, in every way!
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Well first it is good to hear ideas from candidate Trump and not whining. It would be good to see this come up at tomorrows debate. I think it is about as likely to happen as for Mexico to pay for the wall.
Main topics for Wednesday GOP debate: (in order of time allotted)
Trannie Dancing
Abortion
Gays Kissing
Hunter Biden
CRT
Evil Immigrants
You FORGOT exporting the illegal sub-Martians to Uranus!!!
https://reason.com/2022/09/27/for-florida-gov-ron-desantis-political-stunts-are-more-important-than-substance/ and
https://reason.com/2022/09/21/are-ron-desantis-migrant-flights-legal/
Ass POTUS, DeSatan will be forcing USA taxpayers to trick and ferry billions upon brazilians of sub-Brazilians from Brazil to Botswana, and to deport illegal sub-Martians from Mars to Uranus! Ass long ass the illegal Martians SUFFER-SUFFER-SUFFER, red-meat-hungry socons and troglodytes will be DELIGHTED to spend those extra tax dollars! Butt I for one think that illegal Martians are intelligent beings, too, and hope that they will NOT suffer on Uranus, from too many foul odors, etc.!
DeSatan… SPEAKS to me! Get Thee behind me, DeSatan!
Scienfoology Song… GAWD = Government Almighty’s Wrath Delivers
DeSatan loves me, This I know,
For DeSatan tells me so,
Little ones to GAWD belong,
We are weak, but GAWD is strong!
Yes, DeSatan loves me!
Yes, DeSatan loves me!
Yes, DeSatan loves me!
DeSatan tells me so!
DeSatan loves me, yes indeed,
Makes the illegal sub-humans bleed,
Protects me for geeks and freaks,
I LOVE to pay taxes, till my wallet squeaks!
PUNISH Disney, I’ll PAY for their pains,
Ass long ass DeSatan Blesses our gains!
Yes, DeSatan loves me!
Yes, DeSatan loves me!
Yes, DeSatan loves me!
DeSatan tells me so!
DeSatan expels the low-lifes to Venus,
Moves them ANYWHERE, with His Penis!
His Penis throbs with His Righteousness,
Take no heed, He says, of His Frighteousness!
ALL must be PUNISHED, they say!
So never, EVER be or say gay!
Yes, DeSatan loves me!
Yes, DeSatan loves me!
Yes, DeSatan loves me!
DeSatan tells me so!
Our USA taxes must PAY The Way, He may say,
To EXPORT the illegal Mars aliens, every day!
To Pluto, Jupiter, or Uranus, they must ALL go!
Oh, the places that the low-lifes will go, you must know!
The taxes we shall pay? Through the money, we must BLOW!
Yes, DeSatan loves me!
Yes, DeSatan loves me!
Yes, DeSatan loves me!
DeSatan tells me so!
(If we did NOT do-doo, doo-doo-doo, ALL of this, then that them thar illegal Mars aliens WILL show up on OUR doors, in the formerly pure USA!!! We MUST keep them AWAY, far away, out in the Deep Dark Yonder!)
#MeInTheAss’CauseI’maGullibleLowBrowBlowHardConTard
#BeenTrumpledUnderfootForFarTooLong
Those are talking points for democrats to distract from the fact that every one of their policies has utterly failed.
are you guys getting worried about Trump's viability? No more De Santis hit pieces I notice. Focusing on Trump. This is interesting.
DeSatan is STILL waiting in the wings, and lusting after YOUR soul, so do NOT worry, My Precious Child!
DeSatan tis of Thee,
Sweet Man of tyranny!
From every mountainside,
You can smell Him for free!
DeLand where de eagles glide!
DeLand where de illegals hide!
DeSatan, tis of Thee I sing,
To the liberals, tears You bring!
You make the proggies cry!
Talk with THEM?! Don’t even try!
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For the woke, Holy Hell You raise!
Illegal Martians? Low-life scum, You catch and send,
To Uranus with them! Ignore tax dollars You spend!
We must punish ALL, who to USA might sail,
At ALL costs, DeSatanism MUST prevail!
#MeInTheAss’CauseI’maGullibleLowBrowBlowHardConTard
#BeenTrumpledUnderfootForFarTooLong
"Orange Man Still Bad!"
Orange Man bad?!? He BAD, all right! He SOOO BAD, He be GOOD! He be GREAT! He Make America Great Again!
We KNOW He can Make America Great Again, because, as a bad-ass businessman, He Made Himself and His Family Great Again! He Pussy Grabber in Chief!
See The Atlantic article https://feedreader.com/observe/theatlantic.com/politics%252Farchive%252F2016%252F10%252Fdonald-trump-scandals%252F474726%252F%253Futm_source%253Dfeed/+view
“The Many Scandals of Donald Trump: A Cheat Sheet” or this one…
https://reason.com/2019/09/02/republicans-choose-trumpism-over-property-rights-and-the-rule-of-law/
He pussy-grab His creditors in 6 bankruptcies, His illegal sub-human workers ripped off of pay on His building projects, and His “students” in His fake Get-Rich-like-Me realty schools, and so on. So, He has a GREAT record of ripping others off! So SURELY He can rip off other nations, other ethnic groups, etc., in trade wars and border wars, for the benefit of ALL of us!!!
All Hail to THE Pussy Grabber in Chief!!!
Most of all, HAIL the Chief, for having revoked karma! What comes around, will no longer go around!!! The Donald has figured out that all of the un-Americans are SOOO stupid, that we can pussy-grab them all day, every day, and they will NEVER think of pussy-grabbing us right back!
Orange Man Bad-Ass Pussy-Grabber all right!
We CAN grab all the pussy, all the time, and NONE will be smart enough to EVER grab our pussies right back!
These voters simply cannot or will not recognize the central illusion of politics… You can pussy-grab all of the people some of the time, and you can pussy-grab some of the people all of the time, but you cannot pussy-grab all of the people all of the time! Sooner or later, karma catches up, and the others will pussy-grab you right back!
They’re just picking up their orders from Yegg Central, like some goddamned Bolshevik.
Have they even run a story on any libertarians recently? Seems like they’re kind of snatching the ball and going home after the MC got in there. I get it, it’s a shit show. But it makes the full on attack of actually oppositional Republican candidates that much more blatant. ( As in its time to vote strategically. Wink wink).
I get that consumers pay tariffs. They also pay corporate taxes, fuel taxes on trucks and trains, compliance expenses and every other business expense. Once upon a time our federal government was financed by tariffs. Then we got an income tax, a payroll tax and hundreds of other taxes and fees. A forklift driver in KY will subsidize some asshole in CA who wants buy a shiny new Tesla. Sorry but when it comes to taxes tariffs are nowhere near the top of the list.
Good point. Another tax is no big deal. Let's tack on a carbon tax too.
So Trump isn’t going to cut some other taxes?
Did he mention offsetting the tariffs by cutting other taxes? Maybe he'll cut corporate taxes that way the common people pay more (by increased prices caused by tariffs) and corporations pay less.
It's a safe bet he's not going to cut spending so someone has to pay at some point.
OK, tariffs are bad. And income taxes are bad. So are wealth taxes, sales taxes, investment taxes, production taxes, savings taxes, and all other taxes and fees based on assessed values.
But if you want government to do anything, how do you propose to fund it? User fees might be fairly assessed in some contexts, but seem to end up distorted. Head taxes might be the most fair, but good luck.
And just a reminder that the founders of the US settled on tariffs as a primary means of funding government.
Tariffs, unlike the other taxes, have a direct effect on trade. Consumers end up subsidising less efficient domestic producers, while export-orientated companies lose sales as other countries impose tariffs on US goods, as inevitably would happen .
the founders of the US settled on tariffs as a primary means of funding government.
Because international trade wasn’t efficient, the industrial revolution had not yet occurred, and the principle of comparative advantage had yet to be formulated. So the FFs were operating on the basis of vastly different economic circumstances and a lack of knowledge.
China already has tariffs on US goods. Stop pretending they are a free market actor. They also put enormous costs on US businesses from theft raising domestic prices. They are imposing a cost on Americans from their actions. You just want to reward theives instead of responding. Because you quite frankly aren't that intelligent.
They're not a free market actor. But stop pretending that Trump's plan applies only to China, and that all Chinese goods result from IP theft.
Not all Chinese goods are the product of IP theft. Many are the product of slave labor. Some are both...
Why does everything lead to higher prices for the citizens? On the flip side, billionaires and multimillionaires are doing great. What a great time to be and American consumer!
Funny how few conservatives or other libertarians here can bring themselves to respond to Trump's floated tariff thus: "this is a fucking stupid idea". It's so simple.
Funny how tariffs have existed for hundreds of years but you act like they are new or novel believing if someone stops using them magically everyone will despite all of history.
Kumbaya is not an economic theory dummy.
Read a book on application of game theory in relation to economics.
Tariffs have existed for hundreds of years, yes - nor have I suggested otherwise. But as I said above, things like economic theory - Ricardo et al - and the industrial revolution, which among other things reduced the cost of transporting goods over long distances, mean that tariffs no longer have the status they once held, and nor should they.
You're in a really moronic place atm, because you have displayed just enough economic knowledge that you understand the general argument against tariffs, and an awareness of exceptional cases - China, obvs example - but you cannot bring yourself to criticise a fucking stupid policy of tariffs on all imports, because Trump came up with it, hence exposing the bullshit of your prior plaints and denials concerning your fealty to Trump.
It's also obvious- though he'd indicated it before - that Trump has no fucking idea how international trade works, as he thinks that having a trade deficit means that we're being screwed.
I am a young lad just getting into politics (I will be 18 next Nov and so excited to vote) and I am a huge President Trump fan. I go to all the Trump sites and just gobble up information on the President. I stumble across reason today and OMG, what a treasure trove of information on the President... so many pictures, articles and videos on my President. It seems like every 3rd or 4th article here is about President Trump so I know you must love him as much or more than I do. All I can say is keep it up because I am going to be a regular here.
Why tax Americans when you can just tax the stuff they buy?
The link to the ITC report is a lie. The report actually says that importers ate nearly the entire cost, not American consumers. Do better.
Importers are US businesses. It makes no sense that raising taxes on US businesses somehow hurts China. The report says that the exporters just passed the cost along.
If he tops Big Guy Pedo Pete on making everything more expensive, that will be an impressive feat of economic mismanagement.
The index of current U.S. tariffs on Chinese products is 255 pages long.
Find the PDF here.
https://hts.usitc.gov/
I dunno about anyone else, but I spent 2019-2021 and beyond telling everybody that shutting down the entire economy was a bad idea and very few people gave a shit until 2022 and after when supply chains locked up, we had to mandate that people couldn’t get evicted, and student loans stopped getting paid off.
A 10% tariff on *only* incoming goods sounds like a cakewalk. Especially if it gets whittled away based on things like raw goods, non-competitive products, or even just Chinese crap POTUS doesn’t like. Doubly-especially if, true to form, the 10% tariff is really more of a signal to people to quit buying Chinese shit or as a bargaining chip or ploy to find out which politicians are/may be bargaining in favor of Chinese economic interests.
Or, you know, Trump is a doo doo head with an IQ of 60 who in, Clouseau-esque fashion, continues to befuddle the intelligence state with his idiocy.
Do you suspect that if this 10% tarriff on all foreign manufactured goods sold in the US were implemented that any retaliatory tariffs would be placed on American exporters?
I know for a fact that if Gavin Newsom closes down the ports of California even 100% vs. 100% retaliatory tariffs flying either way won't matter relatively.
In case Reason hasn't noticed Biden already made everything more expensive. But what we learned during COVID their is a huge cost to not making things here. What if China collapses? What if we are at war with China? What if our manufacturing collapse and China becomes the only place left and raised it's pricing to extortion levels?
It's an utter mystery why Trump believes that ordinary Americans, whose interests he claims to represent, would be enriched by the government imposing even heavier taxes on their spending choices.
No it is not an utter mystery and Boudreaux knows it. The self-interest of those whose income derives/d from PRODUCING traded goods are precisely those who voted for a Perot in 1992 - and then were ignored/deplored for 25 years - and then went for Trump in 2016 and still today. The fact that an entire generation has passed tells you that whatever benefits that trade has brought to goods prices is more than offset by volatility/harm to the income that used to result from the production of those goods here. Ordinary Americans had no influence at all over the trade/tariffs regime of a post-GATT now-WTO world. The self-interest of investors owning globalized supply chains drove that and they are the ones who overwhelmingly benefit from it.
There is no utter mystery here AT ALL. That choice of words is purely corruption of an academic discipline for political purposes. How can an economist seriously not understand self-interest? Or understand that consumption alone is not what drives individual decisions? Or that the winners-losers of utilitarian choice is political not economic? Of course he understands all of this.
Because obviously EVERYTHING has to be imported. Heaven-forbid the USA make anything but an over-burdening domestic tax policy.
If consumers continue insisting on foreign goods, US companies don't have a great reason to invest here.