China's Industrial Policy Is Failing. Will American Politicians Take Notice?
Panic over China's rapid economic growth has fueled all manner of big-government proposals. They're looking even more foolish now.

Amid a summer surge in youth unemployment, China's government made headlines last week by announcing that it would simply no longer publish official data on how many young workers can't find jobs.
But not all of the country's economic woes can be so easily hidden.
China's economic model—which has leaned strongly into industrial policy and top-down investments directed from Beijing—"is broken" and has left the country "drowning in debt and running out of things to build," Lingling Wei and Stella Yifan Xie explain in a must-read feature published in Sunday's Wall Street Journal. The red flags include well-known factors such as China's demographic issues (a direct consequence of another government-led attempt at engineering society: the one-child policy) and less obvious failings caused by malinvestments. One example of the latter is "a high-speed rail station in Danzhou, a city in China's southern province of Hainan, [which] cost $5.5 million to build but was never put into use because passenger demand was so low." Another: "Guizhou, one of the poorest provinces in the country with GDP per capita of less than $7,200 last year," has 11 airports, more than China's four biggest cities.
As in the U.S., bridges to nowhere and useless high-speed rail projects are a sign of infrastructure policies driven by politics rather than economics. In China, the national and local governments have borrowed heavily to fund construction projects to goose economic growth. It's an approach that some in Beijing now privately admit "has reached its limits," the Journal reports.
With the old model reaching its end, it would make sense for China to pursue another phase of liberalization, evolving toward a freer economy with a focus on consumer spending and service industries. But that clashes with President Xi Jinping's vision. Instead, the government is scaling up another round of industrial policy focused on semiconductors, artificial intelligence, and direct government spending on cultural items such as sporting events.
"The leadership also worries that empowering individuals to make more decisions over how they spend their money could undermine state authority, without generating the kind of growth Beijing desires," the Journal reports.
That line does a pretty great job of summing up what's at stake in China. There's no doubt that governmental stimulus spending can drive economic growth higher over the short term, but the bill eventually comes due in the form of higher debt and wasted resources. Sustainable, long-term economic growth doesn't come from officials issuing edicts. It comes from the individuals' power to pursue their own needs and desires in the marketplace—even if some of those desires aren't aligned with what the government wants.
This is a difficult lesson for politicians everywhere to accept. Whether China's leaders can learn it quickly might determine the future course of the world's second biggest economy.
There's a lesson for America in China's economic wobbles. Panic over China's rapid economic growth has fueled all manner of big-government proposals in recent years. That includes calls for amping up industrial policy and infrastructure spending, most obviously, but that's not all. The specter of China shows up in debates over whether the federal government should regulate online speech, should subsidize American drug manufacturing, should control how Americans invest.
This is a bipartisan phenomenon. Former President Donald Trump was obsessed with using tariffs to curb China's growth, an approach that did far more to impose economic costs on Americans. President Joe Biden keeps on talking about China "eating our lunch" when pitching plans to expand government spending. It's a line that Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has recently parrotted too.
More attention should be paid to the weaknesses in China's economic model, which are becoming more difficult to ignore on both sides of the Pacific. China's leaders have bet heavily on the misguided notion that government-directed investment is the key to greater economic growth. American officials should be in no rush to follow Xi down a path that requires curtailing liberty to chase a little temporary stimulus.
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“more attention should be paid to the weakness of China’s economic model”.
Now do Agenda 2030.
Also, have you seen any footage of the flooding there? They have plenty to build.
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"China's Industrial Policy Is Failing. Will American Politicians Take Notice?"
Not until the checks start bouncing.
Looks like a fucking success to us - time to double down.
China is in default on about a trillion dollars held by usa bond holders. Guess the big guy ain't one of them.
The big guy will be using US taxpayer money to bail China out, hey it didn’t work with student loans but this is a foriegn country, it might work for that! Anyway the big guy owes China. He can always just print another trillion for China. It is not like the Treasury's printing presses haven't been running steadily since the big guy took over.
I think you're missing the context of the default.
Not at all.
I agree. He will help China. He has already sent Blinken and Yellen over to bend over to them and the Commerce Sec'y is going over there to bend over.
He is using Chinese money to pay bills now. He can't use money he can't even borrow from China to bail China out.
China's ace in the hole is, and has always been, their near infinite slave labor. So long as the US and EU depend upon cheap shit made by cheaper people, they'll get away with it.
Pretty sure the only people treated as actual slaves in China are the Uyghurs. They're Muslims by the way. Not sure why conservatives are in such an uproar about Muslims being treated badly.
For the rest it's a choice between subsistence farming or going to the city. They choose factory work. Why? Because it's better than the alternative. Not a heck of a lot different than conditions in this country a century and a half ago when people moved from farms to cities.
They’re Muslims by the way. Not sure why conservatives are in such an uproar about Muslims being treated badly.
Jesus H Christ.
Edit posted twice
They’re Muslims by the way. Not sure why conservatives are in such an uproar about Muslims being treated badly.
Letting your own bigotry fly, Sarc?
I know, its not like the Bush administration worked with Chinese officials to torture them or nothing...oh wait nevermind.
And sarc pines for the olden days of neocons. So the comment was appropriate.
Renditions happened under Obama too despite media ignoring it.
More like channeling your dehumanizing buddies Nardz and Sevo.
I'm sure you have citations.
You’re done pussy. Back to your back alley garbage can, like an alcoholic Oscar the Grouch.
Beverage name?
Pretty sure you remain fucking ignorant on every topic. See their strip mining camps in Africa.
"Not sure why conservatives are in such an uproar about Muslims being treated badly."
Speaking for every conservative everywhere, it's OK to be Muslim. Paraphrasing on a simple conservative statement that sent the left wing into apoplexy, and still does.
It's revealing that when confronted by evidence his bigotry is false sarc lashes out anyway. It's Hatred Uber Alles for dear sarc.
You are mistaken. In the eyes of the CCP, the ENTIRE population of China is slave labor. It is EXTREMELY different from conditions in the US, even at the worst.
Near infinite slave labor
China is the fastest aging population in the world and its workforce age population is likely to shrink by 50-75 million every decade from here on. And it may have overcounted.
The cheap labor game is already over. Vietnam, Indonesia, India and soon Africa own that. Those companies who invested a ton of money in the China supply chain are going to lose it all cuz they can't get anything out. But that is also gonna end the globalization idea too.
Wi Ni DaPu is unlikely to get a 4th Mandate from Heaven.
Let’s hope the ChiComs fall soon, and hard.
This Chinese immigrant friend of mine has a difficult time finding a date. They all say they see too many red flags. He can't help it if he likes his homeland.
Try reading the comment you wrote. If someone form China thinks they see too many RED flags, they are not suggesting they like China. The Chinese flag is the red flag they see too much of.
Though, to be fair, China can at least successfully build the high-speed rail projects, unlike Commiefornia.
They've also got the population density to make them useful.
Somewhat interestingly, China's population density is similar to that of most of Europe. To paraphrase Douglas Adams, "China is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is." Now, to be fair, most of that population is concentrated in the eastern half of the country, but the same is true of the United States. However even when looking at density of urban centers, not a single city in China even cracks top 81. Don't get me wrong, there's a LOT of people in Beijing but Kolkata or New York City it is not.
Though, to be fair, China can at least successfully build the high-speed rail projects, unlike Commiefornia.
Nah. The Chicoms are absolute masters of graft that would put Commiefornians to shame. Those ghost cities they build? They're garbage. You couldn't live in them even if you wanted to. The point is to do the bare minimum required labor to pick up the maximum amount of centrally allocated funds, and each guy in the stack gets to take his cut. It's a shell game all the way down.
Interesting
The US had the population density to make them useful in the Northeast but we refused to upgrade the technology past 1969.
You think Amtrak would get more riders if it was faster?
Hm. There's a thought.
Because the near government railroad didn't want to upset the unions or government subsidies.
Nothing in there a quick war to conquer Taiwan won't fix.
(with a little semi-passive help from 'the big guy')
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/clue-china-preparing-war-230138303.html
The clue China is preparing for war
Why haven't we read more about this? China is stupid yes, but actually BEYOND stupid! Plant trees to restore the environment (cut pollution, cut erosion and flooding), and now they are cutting them back down so that they can grow more grain, to be self-sufficient, so as to make war! READ this article! WOW!!!!
(And now China has bad floods... DUH!!! Double-duh!!!!)
"Guizhou, one of the poorest provinces in the country with GDP per capita of less than $7,200 last year,"
We call our retard state "Mississippi".
Mississippi is in terrible shape but it is still better off than that, although not better of than parts of Mexico.
You think American politicians give a fuck beyond thier own enrichment?
As long they keep making bank and dumb fucks that believe the party religions keep voting for them it will keep going until total collapse.
Obviously China's economy is on a collision course with reality. it has been for some time. The only ones who want to emulate China's policies in the US are authoritarians and economic illiterates. Sorry for the redundancy.
https://honesteconomics.substack.com/
One example of the latter is "a high-speed rail station in Danzhou, a city in China's southern province of Hainan, [which] cost $5.5 million to build
Is that a typo? We can't install a park bench for $5.5 million.
Yeah, self flushing toilets cost several million and then they demolish them when:
a: they don't work
b: Homeless people started using them as housing.
Other than location, what's the difference between a train station and a park bench?
China's government made headlines last week by announcing that it would simply no longer publish official data on how many young workers can't find jobs.
Just watch the size of their military.
But but but BRICS is going to end US leadership in the world!
Sure, a bunch of commie governments that lie about their numbers or stop reporting them when things get ugly. Kind of hard to avoid a massive misallocation of resources when you have no reliable data to see the misallocation.
The US is going to end US leadership in the world, making BRICS a perfectly reasonable alternative.
Just had this debate with a friend today. He’s betting on China and India going busto, and/or Russia and China getting their hands caught in the cookie jar before the thing can work.
But I think you shouldn’t discount our ability to fuck everything up just yet. The only upside to our western suicide pact for the third world is the “climate justice” money we’re dangling out there. And I imagine it will only hasten our demise if we actually start paying out at the promised rates.
Sure, a bunch of commie governments that lie about their numbers or stop reporting them when things get ugly.
Like how we don't get accurate migration statistics, or how new job stats are always revised downwards.
i was wondering, recently, about what the unemployment rate of illegal migrants was. It's an interesting figure, don't you think? So, i looked it up, and guess what? The government doesn't collect that data. That's kind of curious.
I'm not sure what "US leadership" means or why anyone would care whether the US leads anything in the world or not. It sounds more like a slogan to me than anything real. I certainly don't want the US to bankrupt itself trying to maintain some fictional image of itself as leading the world. The only thing American exceptionalism ever achieved for us is dead sons and daughters while fighting in worthless places like Afghanistan and Iraq. Meanwhile making the world safe for democracy doesn't seem to have made the world any more safe for democracy, although it has no doubt lined the pockets of quite a few military industrial complexians and politicians.
A power vacuum has consequences. As vacuums tend to be filled. If it isn’t us, it will be China. And that isn’t a good thing.
Why not? "Power vacuum" sounds just as fictional as "leadership" does. Power over what? Power to do what? How do you know if you have the power or if there's a power "vacuum?" Not buying it.
Brazil, India, and South Africa aren't commie
Brazil just turned commie, with Biden’s help.
Socialism is still strong with India. And South Africa are practically race marxists. The least commie one is arguably Russia.
Another: "Guizhou, one of the poorest provinces in the country with GDP per capita of less than $7,200 last year," has 11 airports, more than China's four biggest cities.
So, uh, the 5th biggest city has 12 airports?
This is a bipartisan phenomenon. Former President Donald Trump was obsessed with using tariffs to curb China's growth... President Joe Biden keeps on talking about China ... when pitching plans to expand government spending (which) DeSantis has recently parrotted too.
Pretty much my thought reading the title / opening question.
None of these guys are remotely libertarian, and both parties need to come up with candidates who better understand the purpose and structure of our government: to protect the rights of the people, among these are life, liberty, property and freedom to contract.
If the tariffs didn't exist China would act completely clean as a free market. Literally sao by nobody who understands economics.
The tariffs are small compared to the amount of corporate theft from China. Corporate theft increases consumer costs more than the tariffs do. Both from price increases and increased security costs.
But you guys always ignore those costs. Doesn't fit the ole bumper sticker.
They’re willfully blind to it.
I was definitely a believer that Pepsi and blue jeans would change China for best. If it were ever true, it’s definitely not now under Xi’s clique. And any free market Uber ales arguments run headlong into National (and international) security ones at this point.
Tariffs are supposedly about protecting domestic workers, but at the cost of domestic consumers.
I did not say, not intend to imply, anything about the PCR's culture of slavery, theft of intellectual property and outright lies other than to condemn it as a model of how the US ought to be run.
i think its fake news because china generate trillion billion dollar income every year
""a high-speed rail station in Danzhou, a city in China's southern province of Hainan "
Is Beijing channelling California? Why would an island the size of Vancouver needed high speed rail in the first place?
Good article, I hope it gets more attention. China's shift to more authoritarian control offers a real opportunity for its competitors including the US. I hope that instead of more belligerence we see politician be more strategic. Opening up to people fleeing China. Allowing them to bring in capital and an entrepreneurial spirit. Build better trade relations with China competitors in the Pacific. Forcing China into better trade relations to maintain competitiveness.
Your democrat master have done everything they can to enrich the ChiComs. If the ChiCom regime survives it will be because your fellow travelers amd their collaborators supported it.
When I confront an absurdity posing as an example to seal an argument, I stop reading and fact check. Here is the absurdity, given as an example of why China is so badly managed":Another: "Guizhou, one of the poorest provinces in the country with GDP per capita of less than $7,200 last year," has 11 airports, more than China's four biggest cities.
Guizhou is an entire province, with 38 million people. 11 airports (no indication is given of the size...many cities in the US with 5000 have airports), not a city. A large city might have 1 or 2 airports....a province must provide for its 38 million airports to service the transportation needs. That is one airport, over an entire province, for every 3.5 million people. How is that overbuilding? Guizhou has about 70,000 sq miles of area. That is 20% larger than Michigan, which has 15 airports for 25% the population of the Chinese province. North Dakota with 2% the population of
Guizhou has 8 airports. I stop reading because if you lie to me or try to fool me, I stop listening. The argument that China''s economic dilemmas (overdevelopment, a population that may decline if govt policies to increase birth rate fail) are caused by incompetent management has spruing a leak and sunk. The main reason for hina's slowing economic growth is the universal truth that when economies mature, or corporations grow large, early growth slows. At 3.2% growth last quarter, China is still far ahead of the US and the West. It has had a brilliant history of success and there are no valid reasons to think that suddenly it has become incompetent.
Youth unemployment (16-24) has risen to 21%, mostly due to the economic constrictions of the pandemic....just as happened in the US: "The unemployment rate for younger workers increased by 10 percentage points from March 2020 to March 2021 reflecting 19.3 percent."
And here is youth unemployment in the EU: Spain, 27%, Greece, 23%, Sweden 22%, Romania and Italy, 21%, and the least unemployed, Finland with 15%.
China's growth slowed to 3.2% In the Eu, in the same period. growth was 0.3%
So the claim of bad management is just another way to degrade China, the huge success story of the last 50 years now seeing slower growth due to earlier success.
The "economic miracle" of industrial espionage. Go suck your master's cock.
The fact is that statist economies work -- for a while. See the UK, Israel, and Mexico for the first few decades after WW2 for examples. The UK ended with the Winter of Discontent. Israel ended with an Ill advised settlement enterprise and an even more Ill advised invasion of Lebanon, along with near hyperinflation. Mexico ended with real hyperinflation and an earthquake. China will end soon too.
The partisan hacks here don't want to admit that neither Trump nor Biden is anywhere nearly as much of a statist as these countries, although Trump would like to be.
You’re a deranged idiot. Trump isn’t the statist, Biden is. How can you be so obtuse?
Aw, did your widdle fee-fees get hurt because somebody said something truthful about your main squeeze?
And you’re a sock of which resident faggot leftist?
If we don't dig these holes, how are we ever going to attract the investment to fill them up?
Easy fix. Printer goes brrrr...
A lot of straw in the man this article has working. The main complaints people here have about the Chinese are not how well they're doing. Rather it's that they steal foreign intellectual property and use their command economy to make foreign businesses more authoritarian.
I had an insight into China's workings about 25 years ago. When I was working for a large Wall Street firm, I was asked to deliver a series of tutorials on capital markets to a senior official from the Chinese Ministry of Finance. Discussions often veered off the main subject and he found that - unlike the investment bankers he was seeing - I'd answer questions honestly and directly. He asked me what I thought of the Three Gorges Dam project. I said I thought it would be a disaster. He asked me why, and I said, first, according to WB research I'd read, no major dam project in the 20thC was economically successful and second, the environmental adverse impact is likely to be far greater than assumed, on general principles. He said, no-one has ever told me that before. I said, and do you think I'm wrong? and he said, no.
From which I concluded that - as one might expect, of course - at a senior level of government, Chinese officials are told what it's assumed they want to hear, and that they may have private doubts but no-one will express them out loud. And this was during a relatively liberal period. Under Xi it will be far worse.
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