Biden Credits Falling Profits for Lower Inflation. Is Corporate Greed Over?
Progressives like Sens. Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders typically blame corporate greed for higher prices. When prices go down, does this mean they should credit corporate benevolence?

It's an article of faith on the political left that any number of problems can be explained by corporate greed, and inflation is no exception. In 2021 and 2022, Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D–Mass.) complained that high grocery prices were the result of "a handful of giant chains" choosing to "force high food prices onto Americans while raking in record profits." When the price of eggs more than doubled during 2022, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I–Vt.) and former Clinton administration Labor Secretary Robert Reich each named "corporate greed" as the singular cause.
Today, grocery price inflation is cooling, but egg prices have fallen dramatically, from a peak of $4.82 per dozen in January 2023 to $2.09 in July.
If corporate greed was to blame for rising prices, then is the opposite—corporate benevolence—to credit when prices fall?
Last week, President Joe Biden came very close to making this point.
On August 9, Biden visited Albuquerque to tout his administration's economic agenda. In remarks from a wind energy production facility, Biden noted falling inflation numbers. "One reason we've seen inflation fall by two-thirds without losing jobs," Biden said, "is we're seeing corporate profits come back down to earth."
The evidence is slim that inflation is the result of corporate greed—as opposed to printing $4.6 trillion during the pandemic, or the avian flu outbreak that devastated the egg-laying hen population in 2022, pushing prices higher as egg inventories declined 29 percent that year. And despite Warren's claims that grocery conglomerates were seeing "record profits," grocers notoriously have some of the lowest profit margins of any industrial sector, typically less than 2 percent.
But it does stand to reason that if one is going to blame greedy corporations for rising prices and profits, then the inverse should hold true as well, and those same fat cats should get credit when prices and profits fall.
Otherwise, it would mean that pinning the blame for rising prices on corporate greed, even as inflation nationwide pushed up prices throughout the economy, was just a smokescreen to criticize the people or industries you already don't like.
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>>When prices go down, does this mean they should credit corporate benevolence?
when prices go down, they take credit.
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If inflation was caused by greedy corporations unfairly raising prices because they're greedy, then some greedy corporation would see an opportunity to make money undercutting the greedy corporations that are charging unfair prices.
Never gotten a coherent response to that.
Yeah, greedy corporations is why things cost so little. If raising prices was a good way to increase profits, they'd be doing it all the time.
Seems like the game is to pretend that inflation is caused by everything except for what really causes inflation.
At the start of the post-COVID inflation it annoyed me that many of the podcasts I listen to that are otherwise economically literate said inflation starts with the raising of prices. With few exceptions they said inflation was a spiral that started with greedy corporations raising prices because they're greedy, then workers demand more wages, corporations to raise prices, then workers demand more wages, always blaming those initial price hikes on greed. Never on the government printing money.
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Conagra Brands, one of the largest consumer packaged goods companies in the U.S., posted a nearly 60% year-over-year profit increase between December 2022 and February 2023.
Cal-Maine Foods, the largest egg producer, up 718%
Kraft-Heinz up 448%
Tyson foods 100%
General Mills 97%
Your point?
That's what the government claims. An actual report from ConAgra, the only one I looked up, showed a revenue increase in 2022 of 5.9%. I'm not going to bother looking for the rest.
Two sets of numbers. Which one to trust?
Well, consider which one faces real, serious liabilities up to and including potentially criminal consequences should they be caught lying.
Government tends to "confuse" gross profit with net profit when it's to their benefit.
And if those larger numbers are indeed gross then what does that tell us about how bad inflation has been over the last year or so?
An idiot shows up with a demonstration of "fun with numbers"!
Fuck off and die, asshole.
I rather deal with corporations than government. We can make corporations change through boycotts or complaints. With government, they don't care. They can do what they did during covid; shut us down because we let them. They didn't have the power to do that, but we still let them. If a corporation tried that, we would fight back. Why do we allow a government that we control to control us? in a word: ignorant to the laws.
Corporations don’t have guns.
In what industry do you see large price variations?
In what subject are you not an imbecile?
Just wait until the lower profits mean lower paychecks and less employees. Then "the greed" will magically reappear.
“If corporate greed was to blame for rising prices, then is … corporate benevolence to credit when prices fall?”
Don’t be silly! How would that support the socialist narrative? A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds. Social democrats do not feel the need to be consistent, either logically or factually. They are experts in using the same facts to support diametrically opposed positions. They are facile in dropping failed narratives and switching to contradicting narratives as needed. They know the Ministry of Truth will back them up at every step, and that no one will ever become aware of the cognitive dissonance entailed in the propaganda.
The rising prices were because they could get away with it temporarily; and the falling prices were out of fear that their greed had been "outed" by the valiant Democrats! No problem, though, because the unfair profits had already been extracted from the poor.
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Or union wages.
Grocery stores have a very small profit margin, Kroger's is usually under 2 %. Of course, Sanders and warren ignore this fact.
One should never take political posturing at face value-it has little, if anything, to do with economic reality.
https://honesteconomics.substack.com/
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He's some discount advice peddler named Tom Cleary.
Went on his site the other day to poke around. Someone was telling him to fuck off and stop spamming their forum, and he was all mad and saying the owners didn't complain so why are you.
I can't be assed, but if anyone else wants to go over and tell him to fuck off, he seems to get pretty upset.
When did prices fall?
Or is this like a government budget? “We only got an 8% increase this year after getting a 13% increase the year before! Draconian budget cut!”
Profits dropped. Everything got so expensive we stopped buying shit, so the stores make less.
“Otherwise, it would mean that pinning the blame for rising prices on corporate greed, even as inflation nationwide pushed up prices throughout the economy, was just a smokescreen to criticize the people or industries you already don't like.”
Or it could mean it was an attempt to deflect attention from record spending, record deficits, and other blatantly inflationary actions by the same people blaming corporate greed.
Why would we need a nice long article about that when so much more relatable and important things happen?
Yes, greedy corporations sent profits soaring so much that the S&P 500 Index lost about 18% in 2022!
Oh no, what about union pension portfolios?
The new Biden bailout of pension funds is in the works.
It's almost like they don't understand economics. If companies raise prices too high, they actually earn less profit, because unit sales fall more. If they set prices too low, they leave profit on the table that consumers would have willingly provided.
Dude, you are the one who does not understand economics, at least the modern woke kind. Things like prices, wages, sales, costs, revenue, and certainly profit are all social constructs that have no real quantitative meaning, and are certainly not related. The purpose of activist government is to determine what the proper, "fair" amount for all those parameters.
"prices, wages, sales, costs, revenue, and certainly profit"
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"Otherwise, it would mean that pinning the blame for rising prices on corporate greed, even as inflation nationwide pushed up prices throughout the economy, was just a smokescreen to criticize the people or industries you already don’t like."
Well the GREEDY leftards can’t very well sell support for criminal “armed-theft” unless they first criticize those ‘icky’ people and ‘icky’ productive industries into being non-human slaves now can they.
Democrats; Still the party of slavery. Still the part of [Na]tional So[zi]alists. Still the party of traitors and treasonous “[WE] mob RULES” those icky people ideology. They don’t belong here anymore than the German-Nazi’s belong here.
Every anti-market socialist fuckwit should be forced to live as they preach, preferably outside the US but at least on certified domestic communes. And no, working a government job paid for with taxes on productive people and enterprises does not count.
Do you seriously believe that Biden and Warren don't have policy experts? Do you seriously believe that this isn't just well-crafted propaganda?
Why don't you spare us the snark and analyze this rationally and objectively? You know, like competent adults? Are you capable of that?
What a terrible fucking article. Not a single fact in it! Big egg companies made record profits during "avian flu." LOOK IT UP
Conagra Brands, one of the largest consumer packaged goods companies in the U.S., posted a nearly 60% year-over-year profit increase between December 2022 and February 2023.
Cal-Maine Foods, the largest egg producer, up 718%
Kraft-Heinz up 448%
Tyson foods 100%
General Mills 97%
You have to be a fucking idiot to not know we are being gouged.
Cite?
It’s almost like demand didn’t go down even though supply did.
I wonder what happens when demand stays constant or increases while supply drops?
Uh, no. You're quoting someone in government, who is clueless. I looked up ConAgra on a business site to verify - "Conagra posted fiscal 2023 third quarter earnings per share (EPS) of $0.71, 58% more than a year ago. Revenue rose 5.9% to $3.09 billion."
It was the increase in stock earnings per share that was 58%, NOT profits. I don't blame you for quoting who you thought was an authority, but they completely misinterpreted the company's report.
I didn't bother with the other companies, I expect the same errors.
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We don't live in the USSR. If you don’t like Conagra’s prices buy from someone else.
However, Conagra’s profit margin in the year ending in May 2023 was 5.57%. They aren’t “gouging” you. If you think they are, you are a “fucking idiot”.
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"And despite Warren's claims that grocery conglomerates were seeing "record profits," grocers notoriously have some of the lowest profit margins of any industrial sector, typically less than 2 percent."
Those claims are not mutually exclusive. Its possible for grocers to have record profits, and be less profitable than other sectors, because their profit margin went from 2% to 3%.
Sorry, Warren is an idiot. She routinely misrepresents things to make her bizarre ideas look like they are superior. Typical socialist, unable to understand how capitalism works.
Warren isn't stupid: she knows how free markets work. She just doesn't care. She wants power and control, and she is going to say whatever it takes to get it.
Inflation isn’t going down, that would be deflation. Inflation seems to be slowing down, but in reality it is flattening out. As prices get higher, it seems the rate of inflation is going down in relation to the higher price.
That's what happens when government creates record inflation by printing piles of money: companies nominally make "record profits".