By Trying To 'Move On,' DeSantis Admits His Fight With Disney Was a Political Stunt All Along
It was never a principled fight against special privileges granted to a private company.

The fact that Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is now trying to back away from his fight with the Walt Disney Company should confirm at least one thing about the whole ugly mess.
It was never a principled fight against special privileges granted to a private company. It was a political stunt meant to raise DeSantis' profile on the national stage.
That mission having been accomplished—and with the prospects of a legal battle against Disney looming—DeSantis told CNBC on Monday that he has "moved on" from the issue. He also encouraged Disney to "drop the lawsuit" that it filed in April against his administration.
In that lawsuit, Disney claimed that DeSantis led a "targeted campaign of government retaliation" after the company's then-CEO, Bob Chapek, had spoken out against DeSantis' decision to sign a bill limiting the discussion of gender and sexuality in grade school classrooms. (The ban was later expanded to include nearly all public school classrooms in the state.) DeSantis responded to that criticism by launching a crusade against Disney's special self-governing district, the Reedy Creek Improvement District, culminating in the passage of a state law that gave the governor the authority to appoint a new board to run the zone.
DeSantis and his allies have framed that maneuver as a strike against corporate special interests, but Disney's lawsuit makes a compelling case that the governor specifically targeted Disney to punish the company for Chapek's comments. The complaint draws from numerous public statements and from remarks made within DeSantis' recently published book to argue that DeSantis sought to punish Disney for constitutionally protected speech.
It makes a lot of sense for DeSantis to try to walk away from this fight, in no small part because getting his butt kicked in federal court over a fairly fundamental constitutional issue wouldn't be a good look for a guy who is hoping to become president. Even if he doesn't lose, the lawsuit will be an ongoing source of bad news for DeSantis and will give reporters the opportunity to ask questions he'd rather not have to deal with—like the newly uncovered ethical issues surrounding one of the people DeSantis appointed to the Reedy Creek board. Ending the fight would also save taxpayers from having to foot the legal bills for DeSantis' defense, which is nice.
Still, getting out of this mess is probably not as simple as asking Disney to drop the lawsuit and move on. Does DeSantis intend to ask the state Legislature to undo the governor's control over the Reedy Creek board? If not, then why should Disney back down?
Short of that, it would be useful for reporters to ask DeSantis whether he would take similar actions against other businesses whose executives criticize his policies. Disney obviously has the power to fight back, but others might not be able to do so. Is DeSantis willing to admit he was wrong to retaliate against Disney? The answer would be instructive for voters weighing his candidacy for higher office.
Ultimately, though, DeSantis' attempt to "move on" from the fight with Disney reveals how unserious the whole thing was. If this were a principled stand against corporatism, as DeSantis has claimed, it would be worth seeing the fight through to the finish. That was never the case, however, and it looks like DeSantis simply wants to end this political stunt before it blows up in his face.
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I wonder why the MAGAts don't just go to The Federalist and American Greatness, where they'd feel more comfortable.
Oh, don't worry. They're very comfortable here at Reason, where the magazine's curious experiment with non-moderation continues to set new records of fail.
I actually appreciate the lack of moderation. I can mute the most insane and/or hateful like Rev, Sevo, and the Squirrel On Meth, but read others.
Sure people like BCD, Brett, Dr. Ed, Nige, Mike, and Jeff live on the fringes, but being exposed to them has made me understand some of the more inexplicable beliefs of partisans.
Replying to 2 of your socks with one of the 18 socks that was outed yesterday is pretty retarded even for your shreek. The jig is up you kiddie diddling faggot.
I don't need socks. I don't need empty validation of my beliefs. I'm not afraid to put my beliefs out there and defend them myself.
The whole sock thing seems bizarre and pointless to me, but if you're obsessed witb them, have at it.
Either way, you’re a malignant Marxist idiot who bottoms for George Soros and his unholy progeny, who also may or may not be the sock of a un unrepentant pedophile.
Apparently you don't read my actual words. I'm an unabashed capitalist.
LOL. The clown show here is humorous. One of those "socks" the keen detectives here figured out was someone else is actually an old acct I got locked out of due to marking Reason emails as spam. But they figured it all out, they did!
Yeah, making a new account that makes a slight change to the user name and then pretending you have "outed" a sock account doesn't even make sense.
Humblebragthreatpromisewish – n. When you assert that supposedly losing a 1A battle would look bad for a GOP Presidential Candidate hoping that no one will notice that the DNC candidate you reluctantly voted for has, and had, lost several. Synonyms: projection, journalism.
And is presently prosecuting his chief political rival over speech, cannot forget that little nugget of principled libertarianism from Boehm.
And they are pursuing a "crime" with zero limiting principle.
Why would they not prosecute ANYBODY who questioned the 2020 election? We would ALL be part of the "conspiracy", no?
No one is being prosecuted for questioning the 2020 election, MAGAt.
Other than the former president of the United States and hundreds of people who were in the vicinity of a riot 2 years ago, shreek.
Hell, Stacey Abrams did the same thing and nobody charged her.
...though a Republican DA in GA might need to look into doing so now.
Trump isn't being prosecuted for speech, MAGAt.
Yeah, he is shreek, you faggot pedophile. All your socks got outed yesterday. Go fuck off and die.
Yep. More Boehm bullshit.
What exactly is your argument? That this isn't newsworthy? That its newsworthy but Reason's take is wrong?
A question which really needn't have been asked...
Why are you corpse-fucking this thread with more of your socks after your utter and total humiliation yesterday, shreek?
https://twitter.com/Oilfield_Rando/status/1691446350993625088?t=alLEWgsFuOO7O9xuC1Bd0A&s=19
Don’t worry about all these norms being destroyed by democrat zealots.
Republicans are going to preserve our norms by doing absolutely nothing about it.
Please to tell: what are "our" norms? Which "us" are you declaring for?
Hey, Jeffy, Shirke, or is it n00bdragon? It's hard to tell with so many socks there.
I've come to the conclusion that the people who accuse others of running socks are themselves running socks.
Dude, there have been a lot of socks outed today in the Roundup thread. It looks like a sock farm instead of just one puppet master.
Start here and educate yourself: https://reason.com/2023/08/15/trump-and-18-others-charged-with-election-related-crimes-in-georgia/?comments=true#comment-10198745
I made a list of them here, however, I need to add Tony: https://reason.com/2023/08/15/trump-and-18-others-charged-with-election-related-crimes-in-georgia/?comments=true#comment-10198934
Your first link takes me to a sea of grey, so I’ll assume it’s ML. You know the story about Mother’s Lament accusing me of running socks for years only to discover muting the supposed socks did not mute me. He’s terrible at judging who is a sock. Spent most of a year trying to convince people that me and Squirrely are the same person.
Your second link brings up a list that, from what I can tell, are different people. Either that or someone is a great actor. Because they are all consistently different in what they say and how they say it.
I believe that not only are the people who accuse others of running socks themselves running socks, but more importantly it’s how they cope with multiple people saying the same thing. They accuse others of running socks to change the subject and make the conversation about them, not whatever the conversation was about. That’s ML and JesseAz in a nutshell. Turn the topic to the person, not whatever the topic was.
Don’t be like them. Rise above their childish, boorish, idiotic pettiness, and behave like the intelligent man you are.
You might want to try unmuting people for just a bit.
https://reason.com/2023/08/15/trump-and-18-others-charged-with-election-related-crimes-in-georgia/?comments=true#comment-10198745
Spiritus Mundi 2 hours ago
Have you tried mike, sarc, buttplug, or kirkland?
Brandybuck 2 hours ago
They don’t seem to work, but Brandybuck does.
Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2 2 hours ago
Woah! What the fuck is going on here. I’ve snagged the pedo’s nick.
chemjeff radical individualist 1 hour ago
Seriously, what the fuck? Is everyone just one guy?
I couldn’t snag Sqrlsy or sarcasmic’s so it’s not a glitch.
Tony 40 mins ago
Tony works.
I’m starting to think that this is a couple of different sockfarms, rather than one master socker.
That's Tulpa or someone else being a sock and accusing others of what they are doing.
If you mute someone and more than one name disappears, you've proved that person is running socks. Or unmute and see multiple names appear. Same thing. Happens now and then, and the puppet master is usually the accuser.
Even if someone is running multiple handles, as long as they're not being a dick who cares?
“The List” is mostly Tulpas. Dozens. Ever see me say “Hi Tulpa!” to someone? That’s because it’s Tulpa with a new account. Can’t imagine how many throwaway email accounts he has created. I immediately mute it. That’s the sock guy. And he's a dick.
Regulars don’t do that shit.
Check this out. I can’t mute myself. You can’t mute yourself. But I can mute this guy.
https://reason.com/video/2023/06/14/should-trump-go-to-prison/?comments=true#comment-10110125
That's what impersonating someone looks like. I've been accused of doing it. Never have. Though it's happened to me more than I know about. Much of the hatred directed at me is because of conversations where, if you mute 'sarcasmic,' it doesn't mute me.
I get how difficult it is for you to realize almost everyone who puts up with your bullshit is really just jeff. It'll be okay buddy.
Says the guy with numerous socks. You fool nobody, or maybe you do, but you are, at a minimum, 5 of the other people who post here.
So, if you muted me then you could see the socks!
Explains why certain people say to never mute me… Mute Squirrely, but don’t mute sarc. Why? Because then you’d see he’s being socked! We'd get caught!
Goes to show just how shit Reason's comment board is designed and operated.
Also shows the dearth of honesty among those who insist I’m the sock master. They know who they are.
You're hardly a master, sarcasmic. You only operate a couple of socks and you out them within minutes because you're a drunken retard who can't keep them straight. Also not one single person you've accused of being Tulpa is actually Tulpla, whereas all of shreek's socks that were outed yesterday are 100% confirmed. Maybe go back to Glibertarians and have them explain to you how that works.
Hi Tulpa.
test
And you failed, Sarc.
I'm starting to think my comments about your intelligence were overly optimistic.
You do it! Copy and past my name into your account and make a comment.
In addition, it's not Mother's Lament nor JesseAz figuring out the sock farm(s). It's not me either.
Crawl back into you poss soaked garbage can pussy. Keep hiding from me, just like you have for six months now.
That's quite literally the exact opposite of what happened, sarcasmic. Muting your sock muted you. Everyone in the thread saw it. And then you lied about it and continue to lie about it to this day because you are a pathetic lying piece of shit. Also if you weren't brain dead you'd just operate socks on different email accounts and IPs so that trick wouldn't work. Sorry to break it to you that your buddy shreek the pedophile is actually the only person here who can stand your drunken faggot ass and all of the rest of your "friends" turned out to be a gaggle of his sockpuppets.
Considering you still think I'm Tulpa after 10+ years of running the same shtick and you're sitting here literally trying to defend dozens of proven and verified sockpuppet accounts, maybe sit this one out you drunken pedophile.
It was pretty easy to do since you cross-posted your Sqrsly copypasta on your main handle about a dozen time sin the span of less than a week while drunk-posting you colossally retarded faggot.
So, I came in here today and found out that someone apparently was impersonating me yesterday. I don't really understand how, but their username always seems to resolve to a wikipedia link to John Adams (?). Those posts are not me and I'm frankly extremely disturbed that someone would bother trying to impersonate me on a website like this.
Poor shreek...
Get used to it.
Well, if nothing else, it's made me resolve myself to work extra hard to make sure that all my posts are written in an inimitably unique style all my own, one that evokes thoughtfulness and most especially kindness towards other posters. That way, if someone ever does use my handle spit vitriol, others may stop and question whether what they see is real.
It's also made me realize that many of the things I've seen other people "write" may not actually be what they wrote, so I will doubly try to always make sure I evaluate each post in its own frame rather than making assumptions based on the history of the person who wrote it. If nothing else, it's never too late for someone to start being right. No one is so stupid that they can never provide insight. I wouldn't want to hold anyone's past posts (real or fake) against them and deny them that opportunity.
The vast majority of the regulars are not socks, though a sock-master may impersonate them from time to time. Happened to me for months or longer. This is mostly a distraction from work for me. Yet for a long time after I quit posting in the early afternoon, someone using my handle would post all night. Weekends too.
That same person impersonates others as well. Their goal is to convince everyone that the people they impersonate are the sockmasters in order to cancel them. And it's working for the most part.
Noob, do what I did. I muted the fake account with my name and half of the false accounts went away. I muted the fake account with your name and the other half went grey.
It's InsaneTroll that made them, I think.
I noticed the John Adams thing, too.
The comment section on this site has turned into a fairly decent dumpster fire. There are still a few interesting points and comments that get made on the substance of things here and there. But it's now mostly name calling, disingenuous labeling, constant claims of socks, attacks lacking any nuance, and defensiveness of the highest order.
It's becoming really unfortunate.
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DeSantis is so awful that if he gets the nomination, I expect Koch-funded libertarians to vote strategically and reluctantly for Biden.
(Or Harris. Or Newsom. Or Michelle Obama...)
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DeSantis is so far out of normal parameters it makes me shudder.
Yea, he's totes threatening to the swamp.
Just look at how virile this response is...
https://twitter.com/DeSantisWarRoom/status/1691525952998715392?t=XqCT9x-C6tMFD_77vmrvlg&s=19
DeSantis reacts to Trump's indictment in Georgia in response to questions from New Hampshire media:
"So, I haven't had a chance to read it all. But I will tell you, Atlanta has huge problems with crime right now. And there has been an approach to crime which has been less than exacting. I think there have been criminals that have been let out that shouldn't have been let out. And so they're now doing an inordinate amount of resources to try to shoehorn this contest over the 2020 election into a RICO statute, which was really designed to be able to go after organized crime, not necessarily to go after political activity. And so, I think it's an example of this criminalization of politics. I don't think that this is something that's good for the country. But I think a lot of Republican voters are looking at some of the things that have happened, whether it's the Department of Justice, whether it is some of the things that have happened locally, and I think the question is, okay, 'what are we going to do about it?' And I've already said, as president, we are going to end the weaponization of federal agencies like the DOJ and FBI. We'll have a new director. We will have new leadership in the DOJ. We're going to make sure that there's a single standard of justice in this country. Now, in terms of some of these local DAs: in Florida, we've actually suspended two — one in Tampa and one in Orlando — over the last year for failure to follow their duties and responsibilities. And as President, we will lean in against some of these local prosecutors if they are not following the law or if they are abandoning their duty to enforce the law evenly. So I think that — I don't know how it's going to affect anything politically. For me, at the end of the day, it's about 'let's get this country in a good direction.' We need to have confidence in our justice system again, but before we get there, we need major, major accountability."
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Ultimately, though, DeSantis' attempt to "move on" from the fight with Disney reveals how unserious the whole thing was. If this were a principled stand against corporatism, as DeSantis has claimed, it would be worth seeing the fight through to the finish.
So unless DeSantis is laser focused on Disney, he must not really care about Disney; not like the MSM would claim he was obsessed with Disney if he did as Eric suggests.
Also, how could anyone criticize DeSantis ending a grotesque form of corporate welfare in the form of Disney being a government onto itself? Disney should be subject to the law just like any other business.
Disney was subject to the law. It followed all the rules which existed. All the CEO did was disagree with DeFascist's rolling back the clock in Florida a couple hundred years.
PS: There's something like 1300 other special interest districts in the state. DeFascist went after *one*.
And the Florida state government changed the law.
So?
Lol, no, there were several others as well. Disney was the only one to try that Mickey Mouse bullshit with the board, and they keep getting smacked around in court on top of that.
Combine this with the L farm they're harvesting in their media releases tanking, their cast members shitting on the IPs and classic movies, their declining park attendance, their dyke DIE commissar departing, and Disney plus bleeding subscribers, it's pretty clear OrangesMan is offering them a chance to save face.
Exactly my thoughts SMP0328: Disney sought to pressure the governor and state legislature, and was successful in gaining their attention. As a result, the governor took notice that a previous Florida government had granted Disney special privileges and exemptions of a dubious nature, that Disney's competitors (Universal, for example) do not have.
Desantis yanked those special privileges, and Disney has only themselves to blame.
Or maybe my fellow libertarians think it is okay for government to grant special rights to a special interest? We might argue for less regulations for everyone, like Disney had. But we should at least demand equal treatment.
Equal treatment would mean the other 1400+ special districts would also be changed. Any mildly intelligent libertarian would look atvthis sort of government retaliation against free speech and oppose it. Only cultural conservatives think this is OK because it's retaliation against the things they hate (speaking out against a bad law that denies reality).
> Equal treatment would mean the other 1400+ special districts would also be changed.
No because the other districts were already being handled according the general state law, and had boards that represented citizens (whether directly elected or via political appointment). Technically, the law that dissolved Reedy Creek dissolved the 5 special districts that were created before Florida's current special district law was put into place. Then, the special districts were recreated in accordance with the law that every other specio district has to follow. The action was to give equal treatment to the very few special districts that were operating outside the current framework.
> Any mildly intelligent libertarian would look atvthis sort of government retaliation against free speech and oppose it.
So, this is the main issue and quandary. Dissolving Reedy Creek was no doubt a good thing. Governments should not pick winners and losers and give special privileges to one company over another (I would be perfectly happy if every large property owner was given the same privileges that Reddy Creek was given, but of course that isn't the case). The problem is that the dissolution for for an awful reason. It would have been bad enough if it had merely happened in the aftermath of the Parental Rights in Education bill controversy, but DeSantis said the quiet part out loud and said it was too punish speech.
The right thing happened for the wrong reason, but I don't know how to move forward from here. Reversing the dissolution locks in Disney's government granted unfair advantage. Just letting it pass normalizes politicians using legislation to punish opposition political speech.
“No because the other districts were already being handled according the general state law”
What are you talking about? The start date was chosen specifically to target Disney. The structures for special districts vary widely depending on when they were formed, they aren’t all the same except for the five specific ones impacted by DeSantis’ retaliation.
“The action was to give equal treatment to the very few special districts that were operating outside the current framework.”
No, it was clear retaliation. Since there is no common structure that runs through the other 1400+ special districts, there is nothing inherent to special districts that was being targeted. The fact that every other special district impacted by the law was allowed to reform, but Reedy Creek wasn’t, shows what the goal was for DeSantis.
“Dissolving Reedy Creek was no doubt a good thing.”
Why? The governmental efficiency under Disney was phenomenal with no cost to the Orange County taxpayers. My brother-in-law (who just moved to Pennsylvania after his company eliminated all offices in Florida) heard from his old neighbor. His taxes went up $3k because Florida and Orange County are now responsible for services. And that’s after sticking Disney with the loans they took out for infrastructure services.
“I would be perfectly happy if every large property owner was given the same privileges that Reddy Creek was given”
Really? You’d like fire, police, sewer, water, etc. run by individuals and small companies? I think they’d probably shortchange services.
“DeSantis said the quiet part out loud and said it was too punish speech.”
Yes, this is the point. Government and politicians that punish speech like this cannot be trusted to protect the rights of those they dislike. Which is, of course, one of the primary expectations of leaders in a democracy. DeSantis fails the first test.
“The right thing happened for the wrong reason”
Targeted retaliation is the right thing? Only of you think that opposing authoritarianism (which is what the Disney CEO was doing) is a bad thing.
“Reversing the dissolution locks in Disney’s government granted unfair advantage.”
You’ll have to explain how it is an advatiage. And please be specific. People who claim Reedy Creek is some sort of competitive advatage don’t understand the obligations of the special district.
“Reversing the dissolution locks in Disney’s government granted unfair advantage”
Again, you’ll have to explain, specifically, what advantages Disney received. This is one of those “conservatives say it, so we are all supposed to just agree” falsehoods. If they got advantages, I’m sure you can tell us what they were.
Nelson, you requested someone to "explain, specifically, what advantages Disney received."
Disney has been exempted from government oversight on ride safety owing to their special status. Disney's competitors (Universal, SeaWorld, LegoLand, and others in the state) have no such advantage, and that advantage is potentially a large one in terms of time required to certify a new ride, cost of additional compliance and paperwork documentation. Here is a link explaining the issues: https://thatparkplace.com/disney-world-now-likely-to-face-ride-inspections-and-state-compliance/
OK. Every time they build a new ride, they can get it up and running slightly faster than their competitors. I agree that is a slight advantage. Since they aren't indemnified if a ride harms or kills someone there probably isn't much difference in safety.
Next?
"Equal treatment would mean the other 1400+ special districts would also be changed."
Magnificent circular reasoning here.
It was never a principled fight against special privileges granted to a private company. It was a political stunt meant to raise DeSantis' profile on the national stage.
That was pretty obvious from the get-go.
You guys got him this time! This is it! He's done for.
A recent headline indicated Gov. DeSantis is polling lower than former Gov. Christie in New Hampshire (or a similar state).
I hope this inclines slack-jawed, pudding-fingered clingers to send more money to the DeSantis campaign.
You also hoped Barrett replacing Ginsburg would create a 7 - 6 liberal majority on the Supreme Court "during the first half of 2021."
Then mid-2021 passed. Then mid-2022. Then mid-2023. And all Biden has done is replaced an old liberal justice with a younger one. Still 9 in total.
Meanwhile Roe got overturned.
Also race-based college admissions got nuked.
By a Supreme Court you told us would have a 7 - 6 liberal majority.
Honestly, Art, how ridiculous do you feel? To have a prediction fail that spectacularly - will namedropping Harvard Law 1,000,000 more times be enough to restore your credibility?
Honestly, Art, how ridiculous do you feel?
The only things the Reverend feels are the rhythmic pounding of his lemon party compatriots and vertigo from the cheap hobo wine they gave him.
He misses being head boy for the fellatio team his uncle coached.
He also feels a pounding in his rectal region, as the other hobos bottom him.
I feel like a guy on the winning side of the American culture war, the stronger side at the modern American marketplace of ideas, and the right side of history.
Like a guy who enjoys watching the mainstream shove even more progress down the whimpering, obsequious throats of right-wingers, faux libertarians, half-educated bigots, and disaffected culture war roadkill.
So carry on, clinger . . . but only so far as your betters permit. You get to whine about it all you like, but you will continue to toe that line. And knowing culture war roadkill like you will continue to comply with my preferences makes me feel great.
How about you? Have you enjoyed the most recent five or six decades of liberal-libertarian dominance in the culture war? I know I have. Especially when misfits like you are whimpering about all of this damned progress, reason, science, modernity, education, and inclusiveness.
This reads like the screed of a waffling nincompoop transposing chicken scratch. Clearly, even you aren't persuaded by your own baloney laden vomit.
Disaffected, irrelevant, bigoted, slack-jawed, autistic, faux libertarian right-wingers are among my favorite culture war casualties.
Fortunately for better Americans, bitter clingers are no problem that replacement is not already solving.
Rinse and repeat--unsurprisingly, imagination eludes an ordinary boor like you, Reverend. But then, why would anyone expect more from someone who has so enthusiastically committed himself to the middle?
You’re losing. You’re just too stupid and delusional to understand that.
Apparently Boehm thinks that anyone who wants to move on from an issue is admitting fault. So when both sides of a lawsuit decide to move on by settling, does that mean they’re both at fault?
When one side wants to move on and the other doesn't, the side that wants to "move on" is usually the losing side. Duh.
Feel free to list all the Ws Disney has been racking up, you dumb bitch.
Engaging in name-calling is an admission that the person you are calling names has the better argument.
No, engaging in name-calling is appropriate when the poster can't back up their bullshit claims.
The biggest W will be discovery in their lawsuit. I figure about half of the legislature will end up implicated in a clear case of government retaliation for protected speech.
Hell, just getting a hard number on the number of districts permenantly impacted by the legislation (one) with the ones that were impacted, but allowed to reapply (five, I believe) and the ones that weren't impacted at all (1400+) will be informative to those who aren't all-in on the culture war.
The biggest W will be discovery in their lawsuit. I figure about half of the legislature will end up implicated in a clear case of government retaliation for protected speech.
You sure about that, fuckhead? Because Iger admitting in a conference call that Disney and Reedy Creek were the same entity--which is a big fucking no-no in how those districts are run--opens the door in the other direction, too.
"You sure about that, fuckhead?"
Yes, I'm absolutely sure. The amount of coordination necessary for such a targeted, retaliatory law to get passed is legion. The texts and emails that will come out will be humiliating. Or they would be, if cultural conservatives could be embarrassed about being self-righteous authoritarians. Which they haven't been for years.
"Because Iger admitting in a conference call that Disney and Reedy Creek were the same entity"
And you think that a technicality justifies government retaliation? You're disturbingly comfortable with authoritarianism. As are most cultural conservatives.
Yes, I’m absolutely sure. The amount of coordination necessary for such a targeted, retaliatory law to get passed is legion
Uh, it's a special tax district under the jurisdiction of the state of Florida. Those can get removed at any time, and it was baked in decades before this even happened.
And you think that a technicality justifies government retaliation? You’re disturbingly comfortable with authoritarianism. As are most cultural conservatives.
LOL, pure deflection. Maybe Iger, and you, should avoid opening their big mouths for a while.
"Uh, it’s a special tax district under the jurisdiction of the state of Florida"
And? You think that's a defense against a charge of government retaliation against free speech? Passing a law targeting someone who spoke out against a government policy is literally only possible if you are the government. A law that only impacts one out of over 1400 special tax districts isn't an accident.
"Maybe Iger, and you, should avoid opening their big mouths for a while."
So people shouldn't speak or the government will punish them? And that's a good thing in your book?
It means the district exists at the whim of the state, you simple Simon motherfucker. It can be removed at any time, for any reason. Ask the other four districts who had theirs removed concurrently and followed the rules.
I'll also note here that both you and the Pixie Dusters on here have failed throughout this entire exchange to list any actual Ws Disney has had since they decided to pick a fight with a governor that was re-elected by nearly 20 points.
Claiming victory at halftime is usually a good way to lose.
Speaking from experience? And you still can't list any Ws, because the reality is that your boys have been getting their asses kicked on every front for months now.
Also, thanks for conceding that Disney has been getting its ass handed to it the last few months.
Apparently you don't understand "won the battle, lost the war". Fox looked like it was going to prevail against Dominion ... until they got crushed.
Disney isn't going to settle, just like Dominion. It will end in a similar manner.
Fox looked like it was going to prevail against Dominion … until they got crushed.
LOL, now you're having to make up shit just to make yourself feel better about Disney's chances. In no universe did it ever look like Fox would "prevail" to anyone with half a brain. You're drawing an analogy from something that never even happened.
Lurker here: God you and this other person are a waste of life. You spent 3 hours arguing that "Disney is totally a loser!" on an internet board where literally nothing matters. Please stop being a deadbeat and do something productive.
Sorry, Scotter. When I get a chance to wind BCD up, I have a hard time resisting. I'll be better.
Oh gosh, you mean people can argue about things on an internet board? How the fuck is that your concern, doofy?
Reason brings down its wrath upon DeSantis for banning the teaching of gender identity fantasies to gullible children when these fantasies are used to encourage child mutilation, but nothing about the attempts to ban math in high schools because it's "racist".
Apparently, destroying the lives of children is OK, but producing competent scientists and engineers is not.
What hierarchy of values can justify these actions?
Get back to us when you are grounded in reality.
That has never happened and you're gullible as fuck for believing a word of it.
Ground yourself, Jeffy, or is it Nelson, or is it Foo_dd?
Please, beat yourself to death with a hammer.
Film it, so we can all laugh.
The “wrath” of Reason? Really?
The closest Reason ever gets to “wrath” is when Gillespie goes on a snarky rant.
On a wrath scale of 1 to 10 with 10 being God on Sodom and Gomorrah, Reason's full wrath would require very sensitive instruments to detect it. It's why I used the word, kinda like describing a mouse fart as a biological weapon.
Don't be sure sure it isn't:
https://www.cdc.gov/hantavirus/index.html
"DeSantis for banning the teaching of gender identity fantasies to gullible children when these fantasies are used to encourage child mutilation"
That doesn't even bear a passing resemblance to what he did.
"but nothing about the attempts to ban math in high schools because it’s “racist”."
Weird. I've never seen any politician or party put any legislation forward that is even remotely like this. It's almost like you're taking fringe statements by unserious radical fringe players and pretending it's a mainstrem position.
But you would never do anything so dishonest, right?
DeSantis' decision to sign a bill limiting the discussion of gender and sexuality in grade school classrooms.
What? When did he do this? I've never heard such a thing. Was it around the same time he signed the "Don't Say Gay" bill which made it illegal to talk to gay people? (Or talk about gay people, or something, I was never too sure about what exactly it said.)
It said that if you're gay, you can't talk to yourself.
https://twitter.com/AJiazhang/status/1691538392637382656?t=KCs9hZP1QEL7_YzLhaj7-A&s=19
Almost no one seems to realize what time it is. People out here talking about the GOP primaries like it’s 1996 or something. “He’s electable” “he has good policy”… bro they’re going to try and arrest the a guy who got 76 million votes.
Like anyone talking about policy, tax rates, or electability when someone with 76 million million votes in 2020 is under 20 investigations is just NGMI.
Last "honest" election was in 2016.
And it wasn't honest, they just underestimated Trump's performance and didn't get enough vote rigging in place in time
I can still remember the tears and coping that night. And the way “uneducated whites” instantly became a drinking game.
^this ..(i fear)^
"...they’re going to try and arrest the a guy who got 76 million votes."
and lost by 8 million votes to a guy who hid in a basement and showed signs of impending senility. Trump then screwed up the runoff elections in Georgia by demanding that the Republicans insist that the election was stolen. He then backed 6 major candidates in 2022, 5 of whom lost in massacres including one who literally lost to a brain-damaged opponent. He couldn't have done a worse job it the Democrats had hired him to do it.
DeSantis committed political suicide, Vivek Ramaswamy talks fast in the hopes that no one will notice that he's just another statist, Tim "My grandfather picked cotton and now, I'm a senator" Scott has nothing but a great backstory, Chris Christie just passed DeSantis in a poll but for him, it's a bridge too far. Nikki Haley's time has passed without a single new idea to her name.
The Republican party has two types of politicians, one who can't admit that he lost an election, and the rest who are afraid to say that he lost the election for fear of losing his supporters.
Aside from sheer cowardice, the only thing that Republican candidates have in common is that they will never talk about liberty, free trade or individual rights. No matter who gets the nomination, they will lose to a brain damaged Obama puppet ( Biden or Harris or Susan Rice? Why not? She seemed to be running the country already)
Free trade is a myth. Has never existed.
If a country is willing to eliminate ALL tariffs, we should reciprocate. But only when that happens.
Franklin Roosevelt negotiated dozens of reciprocal trade agreements that pretty much did just that. They helped temper the horrors of the Great Depression. Eisenhower was the first free trade advocate the Republicans had ever nominated for President. Trump returned the Republican Party to it's protectionist corporate welfare roots.
Eisenhower was the first free trade advocate the Republicans had ever nominated for President.
Dumb. Just all-the-way-around dumb.
“FDR negotiated dozens of reciprocal free trade agreements” is, syntactically akin to “FDR beat chess” and the statement belies the fundamentally stunted mentality that supports it.
You are the retarded, self-defeating, sub-one dimensional Leon Czolgosz to Pres. McKinley’s “Open Door” policy and T. Roosevelt’s Hay–Herrán Treaty .
"Free trade is a myth. Has never existed."
You sound as stupid as communists do when they say it's never really been tried. Anyone who thinks that the only valid version of something is the most extreme and pure version isn't making a serious argument.
Free trade consists of words that mean things.
Any tariffs are, ipso facto, NOT free trade.
It's ALL "managed" trade.
Like I said. There isn't a single thong in life that is absolute. If you insist that it doesn't count unless it is completely pure, it is the definition of an unrealistic standard.
It's like saying only people with perfect SAT scores qualify for college. It's irrational.
We have free trade. It isn't perfect or pure, but nothing is.
"and lost by 8 million votes to a guy who hid in a basement and showed signs of impending senility. Trump then screwed up the runoff elections in Georgia by demanding that the Republicans insist that the election was stolen. He then backed 6 major candidates in 2022, 5 of whom lost in massacres including one who literally lost to a brain-damaged opponent. He couldn’t have done a worse job it the Democrats had hired him to do it."
You're literally repeating the regime media narrative, so you'll forgive us for ignoring your thoughts as the worthless garbage they are.
Facts are worthless garbage? You seem rather triggered.
No way. A politician did something political? WTF!!!?
What’s the alternative to "moving on" Mr. Reason writer? Life isn’t about a single event that happened years ago. Is it?
"The Fact that DeSantis hasn’t Moved On from his fight with Disney proves it was political all along" was the other story you might have also written.
https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1691291790643539968?t=OQPBGWGK6w2RLLYLDFIxKQ&s=19
Understand where we are: they inked a secret deal with Joe Biden’s bagman son to keep him out of prison for money laundering, bribery, tax evasion, and influence peddling, and they’re criminally charging Trump for tweeting at people to turn on the TV.
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One case was in Delaware the other was in Georgia. Reason can't be expected to cover every little local story that pops up on wingnut.com. Meanwhile an old lady had her local daily raided by the local cops. But it was an egregious attack on 1A. We're not talking about some guy on the internet posting parody ending up in a federal penitentiary. Meh. This was a real fucking newspaper and some people had a rough day. Nobody wants to hear your conspiracy theories about bagmen and Twitter posts by some has been politician. Floridaman is the real threat to liberty.
I dunno. I think that Hunter Biden breaks out into a cold sweat every time he sees a bus go by. Some in the press must be ready to say that Biden, like God, sacrificed his son to save humanity from sin, or Trump, those being much the same to the press.
It would be funny if he weren't the second choice. Seriously, what the hell is up in Republican land when meatball Ron and the orange traitor are the leading candidates?
No shame at all and certainly no principles beyond "make libs mad."
Seriously, you're one to talk about shame, Shrike?
Seriously, what the hell is up in Republican land when meatball Ron and the orange traitor are the leading candidates?
Agreed, but meanwhile the Democrats are running whom?
I’m predicting at some point Gavin Newsom and his hair will enter the race, and win.
God, I hope not. He's such a douchebag.
Gavin Newsom?
Yup, I bet turnout amongst, say, black females will be great if Kamala gets superceded by him. No chance of THAT being weaponized.
Dude, your guy is Biden. Not sure I would be doing a lot of mocking of the other team based on that alone.
Most people's "guy" isn't Biden. Most Dems would rather anyone not from the Baby Boom were running. But as long as Trump and DeSantis are the two strongest GOP candidates, we're likely to have a second Biden term.
It's the definition of the lesser of two evils.
Sununu or Baker would wipe the floor with any Dem other than Polis or Beshear, but today's culture-war-obsessed GOP would never accept that.
Sununu or Baker?
If they got 30% of the vote, it'd be a damned miracle.
Which is why we're probably going to end up with a second Biden term. Republicans are apparently incapable of nominating an electable candidate for President, if the two leading candidates are any indication.
Love how "electable" Republicans are "Democrasts, sorta" every time.
Yet, if either of them got the nomination, you'd be calling them Nazis.
Neither Baker nor Sununu are anywhere close to being Democrats. What policies do you think they support that are Democratic?
And I don't call anyone Nazis. It's one of the things that disgust me in politics. If you have to compare your opponent to a Nazi, you're admitting you don't have any valid points.
People would like him better if simply said he made a mistake
Both DeSantis and Trump are incapable of admitting error.
Or accepting a plea deal.
How tragic!
First, this has been true of both parties since at least W.
Second, not really, because your statement assumes apologies are simply utterances. Joe Biden has, throughout his career, said progressively more and more insane things in his "moderate" stance on guns. Punctuating the progressive insanity with more "I'm sorry, I didn't mean what I just said." wouldn't change the overall progressive insanity.
Shocking revelation from Reason: A politician does something for political purposes.
This has long past the point of absurdity. Nobody in their right mind was saying Ron DeSantis wasn't targeting Disney for political purposes. The question is whether he was justified in doing so. The defense of DeSantis was that he was because what he was taking away from Disney wasn't some universal right, but an undue extension of privilege.
You can argue against that claim. I don't know how much luck you'd have. But, at least don't argue against a strawman.
"Nobody in their right mind was saying Ron DeSantis wasn’t targeting Disney for political purposes"
Actually, many, many, many people (both here and among GOP politicians) have repeatedly said exactly that. But today's GOP isn't in their right mind. Until they give up the culture war in favor of fiscal conservatism and good governance, we will see this movie over and over.
"The question is whether he was justified in doing so."
No. Government retaliation against protected speech is never justified.
"The defense of DeSantis was that he was because what he was taking away from Disney wasn’t some universal right, but an undue extension of privilege."
If he was doing something principled, there were over 1400 other districts he somehow managed to miss. Or he was using government to punish dissent. One makes more sense.
"You can argue against that claim. I don’t know how much luck you’d have."
A lot. Most people see a law that only hits one comoany while sparing 1400+ others and say, "Wow. That's clearly retaliation.".
Desantis is such a loser. He is completely dislikable and doesn’t even believe in free speech. He wants the heavy hand of government involved in everything
Tell me more of your beliefs.
BTW, have not seen him wanting to choose what kind of oven you can use...
I've said it before, I'll say it again. The problem with DeSantis is that he's an unremarkable and completely normal political critter pretending to be a nut job, and the Republican base can smell the fakery. They want an actual bona fide wackadoodle crazy person, not this poser.
Yup. If HRC, Joe Biden, AOC, and John Fetterman are what fully-lucid, adults-in-the-room leadership look like, I'm out.
HRC is a fairly typical mobster, but I don't think she's insane per se. I think the left has a lot of the same kind of base instinct that the right has, where they want crazy and that's why she does so poorly with them. Biden is a puppet. AOC and Fetterman are actually "give them a prescription for something" nuts and a full embodiment of the problem.
You are correct, it's not just a right wing problem. It's an issue with the bases of both major parties.
HRC is a fairly typical mobster, but I don’t think she’s insane per se.
I'm pretty sure if you asked her what the goal of her campaign was, and then picked 5 things that are widely agreed, even among her advocates, to have cost her the election and asked her to admit to them being mistakes on her part, you'd *still* get something like 80% denial and deflection.
And, to be clear, I mean denial and deflection because she sincerely believes she won. Not denial and deflection (or at least not entirely) because the DNC effectively, illegally, and at this point relatively unquestionably used the FBI and DOJ to attempt an unequivocal soft coup attempt against a duly-elected US President.
Eric is still on the anti-DeSantis talking points. He must not have noticed Vivek Ramaswamy moving up in the polls. Quick, Eric, go back to the DNC and collect your set of anti-Vivek talking points or you'll cease being useful to Biden.
What's there to "admit"? Disney engaged in politics and tried to push radical leftist ideology on Floridians. Of course this fight was political, and unapologetically so! Companies that engage in political partisanship shouldn't be getting special privileges.
Republicans have ALWAYS favored corporate welfare since the party was founded in 1854. Remember that the law creating the Reedy Creek Improvement District was signed by a Republican Governor. DeSantis and Trump are basically fascists wanting to dictate to businesses. The MAGA crowd who shout "freedom!" are hypocrites.
You're still missing the point. It isn't about "corporate welfare", something both parties engage in. It is about whether companies that receive special government favors should then be able to turn around and engage in politics. And, of course, they shouldn't, as a matter of principle.
Companies receive special government favors because they spend a lot of money lobbying for them. In Disney's case, they also have some political clout as they bring in a shit load of tax revenue to the State of Florida and employ a shit load of people. Somewhere in Desantis' elite law school educated brain...'destroying my State's largest employer could hurt my state and the people in it' should have fucking registered. But he is clearly an idiot. So it didn't.
Oh no, you mean a global media megacorps might move its declining attendance park to another location? Let me know when it actually happens, dork.
Yes, and while libertarians don't approve of it, that's generally considered OK.
What's not OK is when the same companies then go on and push the radical sexual agenda of one of the two parties and demonize the other party.
Disney's woes are entirely related to its corporate policies, not anything DeSantis did.
"Disney’s woes are entirely related to its corporate policies, not anything DeSantis did."
Yup, those laws got passed without any input or effort from DeSantis. It wasn't retaliation, it was magic.
"Disney engaged in politics and tried to push radical leftist ideology on Floridians."
Yes, speaking out against a bad law is "pushing" something.
Well, whether you agree or disagree with the law is irrelevant. Disney should not have intervened; and once they did, they should have lost their special privileges and handouts, as they did.
"Disney should not have intervened"
Why not?
Because that is not the self-declared purpose of Disney corporation.
If left wing political meddling were the declared purpose of Disney corporation, they wouldn't have gotten tax breaks in the first place!
"Because that is not the self-declared purpose of Disney corporation."
The self-declared purpose of the Dusney corporation is whatever they say it is. Literally.
Their purpose is decidedly NOT what you say it is.
"If left wing political meddling were the declared purpose of Disney corporation, they wouldn’t have gotten tax breaks in the first place!"
How would their political positioning have any impact on the structure they have been operating under for decades? Unless, of course, the Governor got angry that they opposed his bill and chose to retaliate.
But that's OK with you because Disney said things you don't like, right?
Because Reedy Creek and Disney are not supposed to be the same entity, you simple simon moron.
Yes, I noticed how DeSantis carefully examined every one of the 1400+ special tax districts and applied the same standard to all of them.
I can believe you think it was a principled action. Actually, no I can't. No one with a functioning brain could be that delusional.
Maybe Iger shouldn't be claiming in a conference call that they ARE the same thing, them, you moron.
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lol Reason shilling for the big D once again.. or does this count as attacking the bad man?
That is one way to reframe the argument. He's giving Disney one last chance to drop the stupidity before getting BTFO legally with the whole admitting to things they shouldn't have debacle.
"He’s giving Disney one last chance to drop the stupidity"
Yes, the multibillion dollar international corporation that was retaliated against for speaking against a bad law is the one that is being stupid.
I imagine the Disney lawyers are licking their chops over discovery. This will be more humiliating for Florida politicians than the Dominion lawsuit was for Fox. And that's saying a lot.
What part of giving parents control over their children's education was "bad", exactly?
"What part of giving parents control over their children’s education was “bad”, exactly?"
That isn't what Don't Say Gay did. If it was about parental choice, there wouldn't have been a ban on educational topics. There would have only been an opt-out provision for snowflake parents.
Removing the option for good parents, who aren't afraid of their kids learning things proves it was the culture war, not principles, that drive the law.
Or do you think that the only parents who deserve "control" are reactionary throwbacks to a bygone era?
And here, Nelson admits he wants kids learning how to go about getting their genitals mutilated in service to a LARP.
"That isn’t what Don’t Say Gay did."
You know what it did not do?
Reference homosexuality. At all.
So, your first sentence is a lie. Pretty quick there.
"If it was about parental choice, there wouldn’t have been a ban on educational topics. There would have only been an opt-out provision for snowflake parents."
Oh dear, states have never stopped education on certain topics before. Oversight means letting them do whatever they want.
Teachers are, by and large, morons. They don't even know their subjects all that well. They sure as hell do not need to be discussing gender or their sex lives with eight year olds.
"Removing the option for good parents, who aren’t afraid of their kids learning things proves it was the culture war, not principles, that drive the law."
Know who SHOULD be teaching kids about sex? Their fucking PARENTS. Why is it so hard for them to talk to their kids about it?
"Or do you think that the only parents who deserve “control” are reactionary throwbacks to a bygone era?"
You can call them the majority, so they do get the call. Sorry. You can discuss how you desire to to slide your cock between the butt cheeks of toddlers to kids in the privacy of your home now. But, that might be illegal. C'est la vie.
"You know what it did not do?"
Yes. It didn't do anything about genital mutilation.
"Reference homosexuality. At all."
You can't possibly be stupid enough to think that banning discussions of "sexual orientation or gender identity " doesn't reference homosexuality. Or can you?
"Oh dear, states have never stopped education on certain topics before. Oversight means letting them do whatever they want."
So authoritarian laws aren't bad if they support your biases? Ot surprising from a cultural conservative.
"Know who SHOULD be teaching kids about sex?"
Teaching about gay and trangender people isn't teaching about sexual activity. Acknowledging that some men love (and marry) other men isn't talking about sex. Saying "some kids have two dads" isn't about sex. You can't be so stupid you don't understand the difference. Or can you?
"They sure as hell do not need to be discussing gender or their sex lives with eight year olds."
Again, teachers aren't talking to eight-year-olds about anyone's sex lives. But apparently you ARE so stupid you can't understand the difference.
"You can call them the majority, so they do get the call."
Oh, are we in favor of pure democracy now?
They aren't even a sizable minority, let alone a majority. Republicans aren't even a majority of people and even the GOP isn't majority-transphobe. You and your fellow hatemongers aren't even a majority of a minority.
But please, keep pushing policies from the lunatic fringe like book bans and abortion bans. The sooner the GOP jettisons you losers, the sooner they can get back to being a good thing for America.
I imagine the Disney lawyers are licking their chops over discovery.
They have enough problems trying to keep the rest of the company from going into a death spiral right now. DeSantis pushing their shit in in court, in a state that's now solidly red after he booted the reindeer game players like Brenda Snipes out the door, would just be the icing on the cake.
Careful, your delusions are showing.
Disney knows they have been handed a prime opportunity to expose the anti-democratic, anti-factual, anti-liberty character of Florida Republicans.
I'll need a super-sized bag of popcorn for the news updates about the discovery materials about Florida politicians.
LOL, sure doofy. Let me know when you have the real stuff and not a bunch of wishcasting pulled out of your ass.
If it hurts the left, it's automatically good.
"If it hurts the left, it’s automatically good."
What admirable principles you have. You're a paragon of rectitude.
Thanks for conceding that.
Wonder what kind of "discovery" will come out of this one?
"Disney Sued by Film Financier TSG Over “Chilling Example” of Hollywood Accounting"
I have no idea. I don't know anything about that case.
You sure are shooting your mouth off about a lot of other shit you have no clue or are in denial about. No wonder your go-to cope hit is "discovery!" and nothing else.
It makes a lot of sense for DeSantis to try to walk away from this fight, in no small part because getting his butt kicked in federal court over a fairly fundamental constitutional issue wouldn't be a good look for a guy who is hoping to become president.
100% pure weapons-grade copium. Hilarious.
Disney: $1.1*B* loss last quarter. $700M loss this quarter. Laying off 7,000 employees. Relatively newly purchased franchises in ashes. With the loss of cricket in India and the said franchises being unmarketable will likely wind up shuttering Disney+. Original CEO at the beginning of the decline appoints successor, who utterly flushes the company down the toilet. New CEO is removed in favor of previous CEO who, himself rather overtly admits defeat and rescinding of SJW advocacy but is unable to stop the hemorrhaging they themselves inflicted. It looks like, after over 100 yrs., there's a very real chance that the Magic Kingdom in the shining city on the hill will wind up as just another a theme park that the owners managed so poorly that they had to turn it back over to the state... because, overtly, they had and developed from the upper levels, if not the top, down an internally policy of sexually grooming children to the point that they advocated for it politically.
Florida: $22*B* surplus. Estimated 1.5-2% population growth year-over-year even with COVID. Re-elected the same prosperous leader to a second term more emphatically than the first time. Still regulating public schools per their own Constitution and mandates. Public schools that, despite being an illegal immigration hub and regulating public schools as they see fit, haven't seen the same spike in chronic absence the way states like NY, AZ, OR, and NM have.
Boehm: Oh! Oh I see! Running away, eh?!
I mean this with all sincerity, Eric, you retarded pedophillic dickbag, if you like your "victory", you can keep your "victory".
+1
Yeah, don’t expect Disney taint-licking dickwads like Nelson and Anastasia to actually understand that the “multibillion dollar company” has a lot bigger problems than OrangesMan.
Hell, why call it Disney anymore? The current occupants have pissed all over Walt's legacy and he'd have fired every single one of these assholes. Call it what it really is, "Blackrock Subsidiary #1".
"Disney taint-licking dickwads like Nelson"
I don't care about Disney except as a stockholder. It has been very good for me over the years and I am not the kind of idiot that thinks that a passing hate-fest by the lunatic fringe will last. I'll probably wait until just before the deadline for discovery and buy more. After they wipe the floor with DeSantis and his merry band of self-righteous authoritarians they'll have more power in Florida than ever before.
If you're going to shoot the king, don't miss. DeSantis and his cronies didn't even wing Disney.
As a liberty-loving American, I hate what DeSantis and the Florida legislature did. Anyone who values good governance and decency does.
I don’t care about Disney except as a stockholder.
Then you probably shouldn't be talking shit, seeing how your company is bleeding money from every orifice right now.
I am not the kind of idiot that thinks that a passing hate-fest by the lunatic fringe will last.
That "lunatic fringe" is probably 25-40 percent of Disney's potential audience, including long-time fans of established franchises, IPs, and Disney's older films that The Rat has gone out of their way to antagonize and alienate.
17% of the American public refusing the clot shot resulted in your precious vax mandates being shut down. Not even a global media megacorp is going to be safe from 25-40% of their audience telling them to go fuck themselves.
If you’re going to shoot the king, don’t miss. DeSantis and his cronies didn’t even wing Disney.
I can see how you'd think that if you ignored everything mad posted above.
After they wipe the floor with DeSantis and his merry band of self-righteous authoritarians they’ll have more power in Florida than ever before.
LOL, this is nothing more than copium inhalation. Modern Disney being destroyed would be the greatest thing to happen to this country since the Rosenbergs were executed.
As a liberty-loving American, I hate what DeSantis and the Florida legislature did. Anyone who values good governance and decency does.
If it hurts your side, it's automatically good.
"Then you probably shouldn’t be talking shit, seeing how your company is bleeding money from every orifice right now."
Only idiots sell when a stock drops. I've made a shit-ton on Disney since I bought it in the 80s, when my parents were teaching me about the stock market. At this point my cost basis is so low I'll have to balance out with losses if I sell or I'll get killed on ta es, even with the long-term capital gains rate.
"That “lunatic fringe” is probably 25-40 percent of Disney’s potential audience"
At this point, Americans probably don't comprise 25-40% of Disney's potential audience. Nobody in India, Asia, or Europe care about the conservative culture wars. Your cohort probably comprises less than 25% and most of them don't care enough to boycott.
"that The Rat has gone out of their way to antagonize and alienate"
Well, your cohort punished Cracker Barrel for offering plant-based meat, so I guess you can feel victimized by almost anything.
"I can see how you’d think that if you ignored everything mad posted above."
You mean his halftime victory dance? I prefer to wait for the game to end before declaring a winner.
"Modern Disney being destroyed would be the greatest thing to happen to this country since the Rosenbergs were executed."
Don't worry. That doesn't sound unhinged at all.
"If it hurts your side, it’s automatically good."
And what, pray tell, is "my side"? The one that thinks people should be left alone by government to live their lives? Yeah, those libertarians are so awful, right? They can't even hate people for having different beliefs than them. Truly awful.
"Only idiots sell when a stock drops. "
I'm not talking about the stocks, you moron. Learn to read.
"At this point, Americans probably don’t comprise 25-40% of Disney’s potential audience. Nobody in India, Asia, or Europe care about the conservative culture wars."
Oh? Is that why Disney de-emphasizes its wokel yokel bullshit on overseas releases? Or why they've been getting jackhammered at the box office lately? Or why their park attendance has dropped? Or their merchandise on anything but the old shit sits on the shelves? Or why Iger's on a firing spree?
"Well, your cohort punished Cracker Barrel for offering plant-based meat,"
Gosh, you mean a business has to cater to its customer base? Apparently you're a capitalist only if you personally approve of the product being sold.
"You mean his halftime victory dance? I prefer to wait for the game to end before declaring a winner."
Lol, sure, that's why you were flexing about "discovery."
"Don’t worry. That doesn’t sound unhinged at all."
Taking joy in watching a rad-left corporation self-immolate isn't unhinged in the least.
"And what, pray tell, is “my side”? The one that thinks people should be left alone by government to live their lives? Yeah"
Thanks for confirming that you think pedophilia should be socially acceptable.
DeSantis should absolutely NOT relent, that is a mistake! Disney's stock is down a stunning 56% from its peak. When a sworn enemy is down and wounded this badly, finish him off Mortal Kombat style.
This is the rare case that 2 wrongs made a right. The special privileges Disney got were an abomination. DeSantis using government power against a company was also.
End both, call it offsetting penalties and move on.