Southwest Airlines Falsely Accuses Mom of Trafficking Biracial Daughter
Plus: Backpage trial pushed back, Bidenomics doens't resonate, and more...

A woman is suing Southwest Airlines after flight staff accused her of trafficking her child. Mary MacCarthy was flying with her 10-year-old daughter, "MM," in 2021 when Southwest Airlines staff called the Denver Police Department and reported her as a suspected child trafficker.
MacCarthy is white, and her daughter is biracial. In a lawsuit against Southwest, MacCarthy alleges that she was suspected of trafficking her own daughter "for no reason other than the different color of her daughter's skin from her own."
"There was no basis to believe that Ms. MacCarthy was trafficking her daughter," states the complaint, filed August 3 in the U.S. District Court for the District of Colorado, "and the only basis for the Southwest employee's call was the belief that Ms. MacCarthy's
daughter could not possibly be her daughter because she is a biracial child."
MacCarthy and her daughter wouldn't be the first multiracial family to find themselves facing human trafficking allegations at the airport. We keep hearing about flying families or couples falsely accused of being involved in trafficking because they don't appear to be the same race or ethnicity.
It's happened with interracial couples and with parents of mixed-race or adopted children. Cindy McCain, wife of the late Sen. John McCain, infamously fabricated catching a child trafficker when she reported to police a woman traveling with a child who was "a different ethnicity" from her.
This situation isn't occurring in a vacuum. It comes amid a decadeslong moral panic about sex trafficking generally and child sex trafficking in particular. The panic has taken many forms, including the Department of Homeland Security encouraging War on Terror–style citizen surveillance campaigns ("if you see something, say something") to stop trafficking; states requiring airports to post human trafficking hotline numbers and awareness signs; and government-sponsored programs to train airline and airport staff to spot alleged signs of trafficking.
Most of the "signs" these people are trained to spot are nonsense—impossibly vague or broad. For instance, Airline Ambassadors International trains airline and airport staff (using a training program approved by Homeland Security) to keep an eye on "children, those who accompany them, and young women traveling alone" and people who seem "nervous." Training materials also tend to tell people to go with their gut instincts. Unsurprisingly, this leads to a lot of racial profiling, with ill-informed instincts about what a family "should" look like coming into play.
The wider campaign to "stop sex trafficking" via vigilance on airplanes and at airports is itself based on the faulty idea that human trafficking (a category that includes both labor trafficking and sex trafficking) is mostly done by brazen cabals of international traffickers ushering victims into the U.S. and Americans victims out, or shipping victims around the country. But in the U.S., labor trafficking tends to be concentrated in specific industries and to involve various forms of worker exploitation more than the covert importation of human beings. And in the sex trades, exploitation tends to take place at a much smaller scale, with individuals or small groups—often people the victim knows—perpetuating it. It also tends to take place in the communities people live in or with victims and traffickers traveling by car, not using commercial airlines.
Neither airlines nor the U.S. government have ever released any data to support the idea that these spot-a-trafficker trainings have led to criminals being apprehended or victims being rescued. Meanwhile, we hear stories like MacCarthy's again and again.
Denver cops stopped MacCarthy and MM as they exited the airplane and questioned them in a manner that "made it clear that they were given the racially charged information that Ms. MacCarthy's daughter was possibly being trafficked by her simply because Ms. MacCarthy is White and her daughter is Black," the complaint alleges. "After questioning, during which Ms. MacCarthy's daughter began to break down in tears, Ms. MacCarthy was eventually allowed to leave by the officers, but not before this display of blatant racism by Southwest Airlines caused Ms. MacCarthy and her daughter extreme emotional distress."
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Backpage trial pushed back slightly. Following the death last week of Backpage co-founder James Larkin, the trial start date for the company's other co-founder, Michael Lacey, and other former executives has been moved from August 8 to August 29.
Larkin's family has issued a statement about this death. "His life and legacy embody the spirit of his home, the Sonoran Desert," they say. "Jim fearlessly blazed his own path in life and always stuck to it."
Techdirt's Mike Masnick weighs in on Larkin's death and the misleading popular narratives surrounding Backpage. "Contrary to the public narrative you may have heard, Backpage worked closely with federal law enforcement to actually stop sex trafficking (and not just take it down, but to track down the perpetrators)," he writes. "But they refused to do the same for consensual sex work and that is why the feds eventually came down on them like a ton of bricks, all while telling the media and politicians that it was for sex trafficking. But that was all bullshit."
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Bidenomics doesn't resonate. Bidenomics—the name given to President Joe Biden's expansive economic agenda—isn't proving to be a big hit among the American populace, reports Politico. "Poll numbers show persistent voter skepticism about the state of the economy, and Republicans are working aggressively to take back the term, dubbing it as synonymous with tax hikes and inflation."
The administration is embarking on a big public relations push this week, pegged to the one-year anniversaries of laws like the Inflation Reduction Act, the CHIPS Act, and the PACT Act. But the best PR can't compete with people's own perceptions and experiences, and to many Americans the idea that things are much better now doesn't resonate.
"Democrats acknowledge that slapping Biden's name on the economy is a gamble, given the prospect of it moving in the wrong direction," notes Politico. "For that bet to pay off, the White House and Democrats will have to close the gap that currently exists between the statistics that suggest the economy is strong and the polls that find many Americans don't agree."
See also: "'Bidenomics' Is Nothing New."
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• George Mason University law professor and Volokh Conspiracy blogger Ilya Somin attempts to clear up misconceptions about the latest Trump indictment.
• "Women in Texas with complicated pregnancies are exempted from a state abortion ban under a temporary injunction issued on Friday, with the judge citing a lack of clarity on the ban's medical exemptions," reports Reuters. "Travis County District Court Judge Jessica Mangrum in her ruling sided with women and doctors who sued Texas over the abortion ban."
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A woman is suing Southwest Airlines after flight staff accused her of trafficking her child.
So she doesn't want anyone to intervene if her child is ever trafficked.
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You mean shrike?
If I missed obvious sarcasm, I apologize.
If you're serious, then DHS needs to rummage through your wife's underwear drawer once a week, just to make sure there's no trafficked children in there. You're fine with this, because you want to do your part to prevent child trafficking.
^Tell us people line up to rifle through your wife's undies like boarding an airplane without saying "People line up to rifle through my wife's undies like boarding an airplane."
Not sorry if I missed any sarcasm.
Let's detain all adults traveling with children at all airports cuz they might be child traffickers.
Makes sense. But I just don’t see there being any demand for black kids (so long as we are racially profiling here).
I think I read an article from Atlantic that said there were like 11 or 12 trafficked teens per year nowadays . Most were just prostitutes. Seldom is it ever a young kid and when it is it’s always the non custody parent that is “trafficking”. Stupidest moral panic ever.
Hey parents! No one gives a shit about your precious kids. If you can’t keep them from being trafficked, YOU are the problem. Find something better to do with your self righteousness. And get fucked too.
Bidenomics—the name given to President Joe Biden's expansive economic agenda—isn't proving to be a big hit among the American populace...
But "Dark Brandon" is still a hit, right?
You can even buy the merchandise on his website.
“ Let’s go Brandon, and I agree”!
Joe Biden
"Bidenomics doesn't resonate."
ENB drives another dagger into the heart of her creepy fanboy. 🙂
#DidntMentionRigCount
Poor Pluggo, It's already been a rough couple of weeks.
Republicans are trying to keep abortion off state ballots.
Their ballots, their choice!
At what point are ballots viable?
38-40 weeks if you're a Democrat.
By reputation of consent under duress.
In an NBC interview, presidential hopeful and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis stated unequivocally that "of course [Trump] lost" the 2020 election.
That's what losers do.
https://twitter.com/DefiyantlyFree/status/1688509953084923904?t=4sNZqCTZCM_IzM4Ze87l5A&s=19
Jack Smith wants a secret trial (one that is not televised), with secret discovery, a gag order on the defendant before an Obama appointed judge with a history of radical leftist activism from the bench.
So the way to prove the 2020 election was legitimate is to have secret criminal proceedings prosecuting anyone who dares to challenge that statement and threatening the death penalty.
Seems legit.
If we lived in Stalin’s Russia.
But it's different when we do it.
Secretary Antony Blinken @SecBlinken
The United States strongly condemns Russia’s conviction of opposition leader Aleksey Navalny on politically motivated charges. The Kremlin cannot silence the truth. Navalny should be released.
Yeah, that one dripped with irony. IIRC, Blinken got ratioed over it.
https://twitter.com/Babygravy9/status/1688525256456069121?t=TvY8KVjRXMSEaJwN4biQ3w&s=19
The case of Ricky Vaughn is absolutely key to understanding the intentions of the regime with regard to internet anonymity. This is one of the reasons why self-serving "defences" of anonymity that don't even mention Vaughn give off such a terrible smell.
Ricky Vaughn is the template. If regime can say that a man who made funny memes about political figures is basically a terrorist interfering in the election process, and lock him up for the best part of a decade, you can sure as hell bet the regime can get you too.
From my essay, "An Actual Defence of Anonymity".
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If regime can say that a man who made funny memes about political figures is basically a terrorist interfering in the election process
The "memes" were instances of fraud. And nobody called him a "terrorist". Other than that, spot on.
How was the meme "fraud", you lying fuck.
Reminder for Jeff. The prosecution didn't identify one person who was tricked by a meme. His feed is filled with memes. They did not go after a dem politician for doing the exact same thing.
But jeff says lock him up.
By the way ML.
Are you ever going to finally admit that your claim that **ALL* of the revoked press passes ”belong to “conservative” journalists and journalists who the Whitehouse has labeled “disruptive”” is false?
Why did you lie about Jim Acosta, Lying Jeffy?
I provided statements from journalists and papers (who you then lied about) demonstrating my point.
You're now trying to portray me as lying because I won't track down and post the statements of *ALL* 442. A ridiculous and stupid demand.
The ones I posted adequately prove my point.
By the way, Lying Jeffy.
Are you ever going to finally admit that you deliberately lied about Jim Acosta in your original post on the matter?
Also, stop trying to redirect from my question here. How was the meme “fraud”?
You’re now trying to portray me as lying because I won’t track down and post the statements of *ALL* 442. A ridiculous and stupid demand.
YOU were the one who claimed that **ALL** of them were revoked because they were conservative or “disruptive”. So the burden is on you to prove that claim. Do you even understand that?
You posted three or four examples. How do I know that those three or four examples aren’t just cherry-picked, and the 400+ rest of them are left-wingers, free lancers, or otherwise not targeted at all for any specific reason? Hmm?
I don’t give a fuck about Jim Acosta. You only bring it up to deflect from your own failure to admit your lies.
You are pedantic one, obsessing over the word *all*...
If only 423 of the 442 were conservative, does that really make his statement wrong in any meaningful way?
New here? Get ready to learn why I call him Lying Jeffy.
And he still refuses to answer why he deliberately lied about Acosta in his initial post.
Pedantry is all he's got.
He'll laser focus on a small part of the statement that's hard to prove or requires an immense amount of work, and hammer on that while ignoring evidence that proves the claim.
He was doing it today by implying that unless a conspirator gives a confession then no conspiracy is present. Even if the crime is self-evident.
And even though everyone points the sophistry of it all out to him, he persists. I wonder if it's a form of trolling.
LOL you didn't even bother to prove that there was any conspiracy at all! Just that a set of numbers followed a pattern that YOU CLAIMED was 'proof' of some conspiracy to deceive people. It is just paranoid thinking. There is no 'self-evident crime', there is no crime at all.
while ignoring evidence that proves the claim.
The point is, you *don't actually prove the claim*!
Are you now ready to admit that NOT ALL of the 442 individuals who had their press passes revoked were conservative or 'disruptive'? That your initial claim was wrong?
Even if you want to prove some larger point that Biden is using press passes as a weapon to deny access based on ideology, you have to show something more than 4 or 5 individuals out of the 442 are conservative. That is barely 1% of the total.
You're a lying propagandist for Team Red pushing their narratives
Still nothing about why you lied about Jim Acosta.
It makes his statement wrong as a matter of fact, and me pointing it out means that I am holding him to the same standard that they hold me to routinely.
Truth of the matter is, we have no idea about the 442 individuals. It may be all 442 who were conservative, or it may be 5, or it may be anywhere in between. We have no idea.
ML wants to steal a base and just cherry-pick a few examples and then claim those 5 are representative of the whole, to push a narrative that Biden is using press passes as a weapon to deny access based on ideology. That is deceptive and wrong and I am calling him out on it.
The real question is "When is Jeff going to self-delete?"
>>“memes” were instances of fraud.
no.
Yeah, no.
Here is one of the "memes" in question:
https://tablet-mag-images.b-cdn.net/production/0c743703bdbcda59a16d8491a3868aef9a6876fa-945x958.png?rect=97,0,746,958&w=1250&q=70&auto=format&dpr=1
It was not some garden-variety meme. It was specifically designed to appear to come from the official Hillary campaign and was specifically designed to deceive people about how to vote for Hillary. That is what makes his case different from all of the other memes out there.
So Douglass Mackey is a poor example of a martyr for Team Red.
If anyone is stupid enough to fall for that, they have only themselves to blame.
I know this Nigerian prince who wants to give you a million dollars. Can I get your bank account info?
That is what some smart, educated, decent people say about Trump fans, DeSantis supporters, QAnoners, "stolen election" kooks, Republicans, white nationalists, evangelicals, and other items in the basket of deplorables.
Yes, everyone has only themselves to blame for whatever they end up believing.
Stupid people don't deserve to be the victims of a crime any more than smart people do.
You’re a terrible person, defending a totalitarian regime.
That is 100% a garden variety meme, and the fact that the state was able to find anyone who confessed under oath to being duped by it, says a lot about our education system.
Furthermore fraud “involves the false representation of facts, whether by intentionally withholding important information or providing false statements to another party for the specific purpose of gaining something that may not have been provided without the deception.”
Getting lulz shouldn’t be a crime.
The whole point of that meme is to steal votes from Hillary voters. That is what he planned to get in return. Stolen votes. Voters would "text their votes" to that number, and therefore not show up to vote on Election Day thinking they had already voted. That is the fraud.
But HE didn’t gain anything from them voting from home like American Idol. Ostensibly you could argue the other candidates did gain something, but not him (unless he was affiliated with a campaign). That was my whole point.
Also, how do you even prove that was his intent and not just “Ha ha, I bet some moron will totally do this, it’s going to be soooo funny.”?
You can go read the indictment and the court transcripts. He had a private chat with his buddies where they talked about ways to suppress the vote for Hillary.
But HE didn’t gain anything from them voting from home like American Idol.
He obtained someone else's vote that he knew was a vote for Hillary. It was the digital equivalent of stealing an absentee ballot out of a mailbox. That is what he gained.
If voting by phone was a thing and he gave people the wrong number to call/text, I could understand. If he set up a fake drop box, that would actually be stealing someone’s ballot. I just can’t wrap my head around how you think he “obtained” anything or benefited.
We’ll just have to agree to disagree.
https://www.justice.gov/d9/press-releases/attachments/2021/01/27/2021.01.22_mackey_complaint_for_court_signed_by_agent_0.pdf
see particularly pp. 21-22
The “memes” were instances of fraud.
Fucking idiot.
https://twitter.com/TheRealZBlog/status/1688544029250605056?t=Xk5SbwpkLgDjCDVnufgUkg&s=19
Trump got ~63 million votes in 2016 and ~74 million in 2020, which makes him the only incumbent to get more votes and lose. Not just presidential incumbent, but any incumbent. I did an extensive search for governors, senators and congressman. I found no example of this.
Now, if Trump's total was about the same, then the turnout argument would make some sense, if you ignore the cognitive problems of Biden. Lots of people got excited to vote against Trump. That is clearly not what happened as Trump had a huge jump in his vote total.
I made a simple chart of the turnout after the election and you see the problem for the turnout claim. It raises a new question. Why the once in forever spike in turnout? Until that can be adequately answered, the parsimonious answer is shenanigans.
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Why the once in forever spike in turnout?
Because in 2020, it was easier to vote from home than ever before. Because there was a pandemic and lots of jurisdictions loosened the rules against mail-in voting and absentee voting. That's why.
It's not mysterious and it's not hard to understand.
"Because in 2020, it was easier to vote from home than ever before"
Lazy people would explain an extra one million votes, maybe two, possibly three. An extra five million votes would be pushing it.
But an extra twenty-six million votes? GFY. That's ludicrous.
And it is even more ludicrous when you see votes drop back down in 2022 despite many areas keeping the 2020 changes.
So what is the rational basis for your claim that 5 million extra votes would be believable but 26 million extra votes would be ludicrous?
Lol.
Think hard... and I said one million votes are believable but five is pushing it.
What's magic about the number 5 million? Why not 6 or 7 or 8?
What is the rational basis for your claim?
Haha, you’ve really lost it.
"What is the rational basis for your claim?"
Probability, and I didn't say five, I said one.
So you pulled it out of your ass. Got it.
All the former residents having ballots sent to them because Democrats are against voter role reviews + the midnight vote dumps until Biden won didn't help.
Thanks for explaining why mail in voting is ducking retarded.
Because it means that more people participate?
More people or more ballots?
It means it's harder to know who is actually participating. You really think checking signatures is a foolproof, iron-clad defense against vote fraud?
Especially when the Democrat SOS illegally instructs election workers not to worry about the signatures matching:
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/judge-rules-michigan-sec-state-broke-law-absentee-ballot
Some examples shown in Arizona of signature matching in a public session were so bad that the new AG threatened criminal investigations if anyone posted the pictures of a public meeting to social media.
Still haven’t gotten a response to this. I’m close to a dozen times posting it. Interesting.
No, I don't. I think signature verification is a terrible way to verify a person's identity. Let's do it the way banks and tech companies do it: with PIN numbers, passwords, two-factor authentication, there's a number of different ways to do it that's better than stupid fucking signatures.
So we COULD have an opposition party that says "hey, signature matching sucks, let's come up with a better way to verify a person's identity".
But instead, we have a stupid reactionary opposition party that says "hey, signature matching sucks, so let's just get rid of voting by mail".
As opposed to Turducken Special?
🙂
Over and over again, the crowd that claims that there was "MASSIVE FRAUD" present 'troubling questions' that are very easily and quickly answered without resorting to positing the existence of fraud.
"How could Trump win all those bellwether counties and still lose the election? MUST BE FRAUD!"
No - the significance of those 'bellwether counties' was only demonstrated during normal election years conducted without pandemics or loosened voting rules on mail-in voting. Furthermore Trump positioned himself as a different type of candidate breaking the norms and conventions of previous Republican candidates so the pattern established by these 'bellwether counties' would not be expected to hold anyway even in a typical election year.
"Biden ran a terrible campaign from his basement and got more votes than Obama! How is this possible? MUST BE FRAUD!"
Sure he ran a terrible campaign. But plenty of people didn't affirmatively vote for Biden, they voted AGAINST TRUMP. We can see that by the perpetually poor approval ratings that Biden has suffered even among Democrats. The 2020 election was a referendum on Trump, *as all re-election campaigns are*, and Trump lost that referendum.
And it just goes on and on.
"And it just goes on and on."
It really does, and if you weren't so intellectually dishonest you might admit to yourself that something looks very fishy.
Hey Jeff -
They named a trillion dollar spending bill the “inflation reduction act”. How many different ways do they need to say “fuck you” before you finally question team blue?
You’re either a useful idiot or getting paid for this nonsense.
And, again, the comparisons Women's Suffrage and Race deflect from what would otherwise be regarded as unequivocal election manipulation even if the votes were 100% legitimate.
That is, prior to the 15A, race-based voting is written into The Constitution. The Women's Suffrage movement predates the 19A by decades, if not centuries. Even if you regard the 11M and 11M+ vote jumps as 100% legitimate, the election changes don't represent anything like giving people previously "forbidden" from voting a right, moreover, nobody was talking about said right, or the denial of it in Nov. of 2019.
Politically, the fact that they're trying to pass one off as the other should be an insult to women and minorities (or anyone who votes really) every bit as much as if a bunch of Klansmen had tried to gerrymander a bunch of blacks out of a district a month before the election and tried to pass it off as giving those blacks the right to choose their own representative(s).
It comes amidst a decades-long moral panic about sex trafficking generally and child sex trafficking in particular.
So now this is a "moral manic"? Where the fuck is the Epstein client list, and why the fuck hasn't it seen the light of day yet!?!
Because of 2 names
1 obama
2 clinton
Probably more than just two.
Here’s a few that appeared on an Epstein calendar:
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/08/who-are-the-newly-revealed-jeffrey-epstein-associates.html
The new reports also deepen public understanding of the ties between Epstein and some boldfaced names who he had previously been associated with. And they underscored just how frequently Epstein met with his high-flying pals. The Journal delved into his packed itinerary for just one day — September 8, 2014 — and found that he planned to meet with four extremely wealthy men: Bill Gates, Leon Black, Thomas Pritzker, and Mortimer Zuckerman.
Bill Gates seems to show up a lot. I also took note of the Pritzker there. Thomas Pritzker is a cousin of Illinois Governor JB Pritzker.
Here’s the list from the article:
Ehud Barak, former Israeli prime minister
Bill Gates
Leon Botstein, president of Bard College
William Burns, CIA director
Noam Chomsky
Terje Rød-Larsen, noted ex-diplomat
Joshua Cooper Ramo, a FedEx board member
Ariane de Rothschild, chairwoman of Edmond de Rothschild Group
Kathryn Ruemmler, Goldman Sachs general counsel
Lawrence Summers
Peter Thiel
Leon Black
Jes Staley
There’s a full blurb on each one in the article.
...a woman was jailed for two months for using CBD oil while pregnant.
All that cannabis couldn't be good for the baby!
Maybe she just hadn't gotten around to the abortion yet...?
What’s the logic here? The woman uses CBD oil, therefore she must be a dirty baby-killing liberal?
You really don't have a sense of humor, Laursen, not even a dark sense of humor.
Dark senses of humor are racist...?
Color of jokes are the most important thing.
...Volokh Conspiracy blogger Ilya Somin attempts to clear up misconceptions about the latest Trump indictment.
Booooooorrrring.
I prefer half truths an innuendo.
Leftist loon Ilya Somin provides political lies about Trump indictments is more like it.
In case you guys don't venture into the last thread.
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Why wouldn’t there be? Despite all his faults, at least Biden recognizes the Constitution. Can’t say the same about Trump.
Wow. Missed that.
Anyone mention Biden needing to be slapped down by SCOTUS for demanding citizens inject themselves with experimental off label medications to keep their jobs?
Anyone mention him allocating tax payer money via EO to a specific set of his supporters as a giveaway, without any input from congress, also needing to be slapped down by SCOTUS for that?
Biden shows constantly, like all leftists, that the constitution and democracy are sacred so long as they aren't in his way, at that moment in time. If so, then they can be thrown directly in the bin
“Off label” — how so?
Good point. In the medical world, emergency-use is really a step further than "off label" so I could have been more harsh in my scolding.
Keeping an experimental medicine, under emergency use, while mandating people take it is morally corrupt.
Good catch brother!
Sure thing. Anytime.
"...while mandating people take it is morally corrupt."
Soldiers have been required to get vaccines for DECADES! "Hey you! Do your job, work the job, or get fired!"
Is the boss, in this case, mandating ANYTHING? Is the boss now "morally corrupt"?
Known, tested and trusted vaccines.
Killing people is good ass long ass anti-vaxxers have their way in promoting anti-vaxism ass THE most fashionable of ALL Marks of Tribal Virtue!!!
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/united-states-rates-of-covid-19-deaths-by-vaccination-status?country=~All+ages
Just LOOK at the interactive graph right at the top of this link!!!! COVID deaths among the unvaccinated VASTLY outnumbered, and still outnumber, the deaths among the vaccinated!!! WHY do You Perfectly Lust SOOOO Much for death and suffering, LYING servant and serpent of communicable diseases?!?!
Nobody died from refusing your junk mRNA injection.
It didn't even work as a therapeutic let alone a vaccine, and occasionally had some nasty side effects. Remember how you finally learned what spike proteins are?
Remember when you said that vaccines have cooties?
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/10/centner-academy-vaccine-rules-leila-centner-david-centner
Florida School Run by Idiots Says Vaccinated Students Must Stay Home for 30 Days After Each Shot
This is the same school where a teacher told students not to hug their vaccinated parents for more than five seconds.
(End subtitles and excerpts).
See? We are ALL data-driven by now! My data says the OTHER (evil) tribe believes in vaccines, so MY tribe must BAN and SHUN the BAD tribe (and their cooties) as much as possible!
The unvaccinated are now CLEAN and the vaccinated are UNCLEAN! Civic-minded BAD! Afraid of micro-chips in vaccines GOOD! Black is white, and good is evil!
Insane gibberish.
That refutes nothing I said. Try to stay on topic, nutball.
Marxist Mammary-Necrophilia-Fuhrer, WHY do You keep on Perfectly Saying that everyone who makes You look bad, by being smarter and better-looking than You, should commit suicide? Do You know just WHERE that would leave You?
Conservaturds making friends, gathering votes, and influencing people by... PEDDLING KOOL-AID AND SUICIDE!!! How's it workin' for ya, servant and serpent of the Evil One?
EvilBahnFuhrer, drinking EvilBahnFuhrer Kool-Aid in a spiraling vortex of darkness, cannot or will not see the Light… It’s a VERY sad song! Kinda like this…
He’s a real Kool-Aid Man,
Sitting in his Kool-Aid Land,
Playing with his Kool-Aid Gland,
His Hero is Jimmy Jones,
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Jim-Jones
Loves death and the dying moans,
Then he likes to munch their bones!
He’s truly, completely a necrophiliac,
His brain, squirming toad-like, is REALY,really whack!
Has no thoughts that help the people,
He wants to turn them all to sheeple!
On the sheeple, his Master would feast,
Master? A disaster! Just the nastiest Beast!
Kool-Aid man, please listen,
You don’t know, what you’re missin’,
Kool-Aid man, better thoughts are at hand,
The Beast, to LEAVE, you must COMMAND!
A helpful book is to be found here: M. Scott Peck, Glimpses of the Devil
https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1439167265/reasonmagazinea-20/
Hey EvilBahnFuhrer …
If EVERYONE who makes you look bad, by being smarter and better-looking than you, killed themselves, per your wishes, then there would be NO ONE left!
Who would feed you? Who’s tits would you suck at, to make a living? WHO would change your perpetually-smelly DIAPERS?!!?
You’d better come up with a better plan, Stan!
So what? The military is not the general population. They tend to be young and physically fit. Exactly the people who have more to fear from the vaccine than from covid. The vaccinated and the unvaccinated are not identical populations otherwise. It is not a valid comparison to draw any firm conclusions from.
The SCOTUS case stopped them from forcing everyone who worked for a company with over 100 employees you ignorant retard.
The SCROTUS has ruled that all women in the USA are womb-slaves to be endlessly shackled by, and enslaved to the Rethugglican Church, you ignorant retard!!! Whatever The SCROTUS says has been Blessed by Government Almighty Itself, you ignorant retard, dammit!!!!
Fuck me. That's on-par with Pluggo calling Adam Schiff the most honest guy in Congress.
He is continuing to defend it as well. His defense is two statements. He ignores actual actions. It is quite amazing.
A better question, based on being in the thread for a bit, is, how much did Sarc imbibe prior to commenting this morning? Or, as I dared suggest, and he got pissy at me for, is he nursing one hell of hangover after yesterday?
He did take off most of Saturday to "be productive." So could be a week long hangover.
The little dipsomaniac also took issue with me for calling him out for it. He needs to learn what the hell "white knighting" is before he uses any terminology beyond his comprehension again.
I saw that, had me laughing.
He understands "white lightning", not "white knighting".
Which one was it that said Media Matters was non-partisan?
Shrike.
"Why wouldn’t there be? Despite all his faults, at least Biden recognizes the Constitution. Can’t say the same about Trump."
The Meeting of the Right Rightist Minds will now come to Odor!
Years ago by now, Our Dear Leader announced to us, that He may commit murder in broad daylight, and we shall still support Him! So He Has Commanded, and So Must it be Done!
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jan/24/donald-trump-says-he-could-shoot-somebody-and-still-not-lose-voters
And now, oh ye Faithful of the Republican Church, It Has Become Known Unto us, that it is also in His Power and Privilege Ass Well, to murder the USA Constitution in broad daylight. Thus He Has Spoken, and Thus Must It Be Done! Thou shalt Render Unto Trump, and simply REND the USA Constitution, and wipe thine wise asses with it! Do NOT render unto some moldering old scrap of bathroom tissue! Lest we be called fools, or worse!
https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/03/politics/trump-constitution-truth-social/index.html
Proud Boys, STAND with TRUMP, and stand by! And if ye don’t agree 110%, then we don’t need you polluting our world, because all who disagree with us in ANY way are LEFTISTS!!!
There, I think that’s a wrap! I’ve covered it ALL! You can take the rest of the day off.
(You’re welcome!)
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Not so dreamy now are you Amash. Amash goes against most of the statements from reason and the one true libertarian here.
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I may not like Trump, but I love our Constitution, so I feel compelled to speak out.
The latest indictment, which I encourage everyone to read, attempts to criminalize Trump’s routine misstatements of fact and law in connection with the 2020 election.
But this is precisely the sort of wrong that must be addressed politically under our Constitution, not criminally.
Our system can’t survive if political disputes are removed to the criminal realm. There’s no limiting principle to such an approach.
Remind me again which former presidents have been indicted for going to war without congressional approval, spying on Americans in violation of the Fourth Amendment, abusing emergency declarations to bypass checks and balances, or ignoring legal advisers to pursue a clearly unlawful policy.
We don’t criminalize these actions, egregious as they are, because they are matters of political contention. We’re allowed to disagree about the workings of our constitutional system without fear of criminal reprisal.
Politicians are constantly misguided and just plain mistaken about a lot of things—often remarkably so. It endangers all Americans to begin treating politicians’ false beliefs regarding political or constitutional matters, even when they’re obviously wrong, as criminal offenses.
We impeach people for violating the public trust—for political misconduct or serious incompetence. We reject them. We vote them out. We never again elect them.
We don’t imprison them.
We don’t imprison them.
We imprison Trump because it sends a message to politicians and more importantly, Trump’s supporters.
The left wants an actual insurrection, or the right to completely submit.
Sorry but Amash is wrong here.
https://reason.com/2023/08/05/controlling-your-uncontrollable-addiction-to-tech/?comments=true#comment-10185432
Can the people who are continually claiming "Jack Smith is trying to criminalize Trump's speech!!!!" actually read the indictment and actually respond to the actual claims within the indictment? Please?
The claim was false, there was no widespread fraud as the memo alleged.
This statement is false. Who goes to prison about lying about the lack of "widespread fraud"?
Who determines what the adjective widespread means. Jeff wants to criminalize anyone who thinks different than the government or himself.
Which law determines the legal definition of widespread?
He’s truly awful.
From p. 28 of the third indictment:
Claim (a) is false. DOJ had NOT "identified significant concerns that may have impacted the outcome of the election in multiple States" but Trump wanted the DOJ official (Jeffrey Clark) to send the memo to lie on his behalf.
Claim (b) is also false, because the alternate slate of Trump electors was NOT a valid slate of electors but Trump wanted Clark to send the DOJ memo which would lend legitimacy to the claim that they were valid.
So again Trump might have genuinely believed that there was massive fraud. But he wanted to use an instrument of the government to pressure state legislatures to reconsider their certifications on his behalf. That is a corrupt ACTION that goes beyond "criminalizing speech", does it not?
Huh. So none of the usual culprits squawking about CRIMINALIZING TRUMP’S SPEECH!!!! have anything to say in response to this comment. How very telling.
Here is the memo, in case you are interested.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21087991-jeffrey-clark-draft-letter
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Best thing you've said all day.
Most honest, anyway.
Low bar. Did he ever say why he lied about Acosta?
Did ML ever say why he lied about Biden's revoked press passes?
I didn't. I provided statements from journalists and papers (who you then lied about) demonstrating my point.
You’re now trying to portray me as lying because I won’t track down and post the statements of *ALL* 442. A ridiculous and stupid demand.
The ones I posted adequately prove my point.
By the way, Lying Jeffy.
Are you ever going to finally admit that you deliberately lied about Jim Acosta in your original post on the matter?
What, not going to collectivize Amash as a right-winger for disagreeing about your preferred narrative? It must suck when so many NeverTrumpers and Anti-Trump people are all pointing out the same flaws with these cases as all those MAGA retards.
I think Amash has demonstrated by his actions that he's not some mere Trump-humping reflexive defender.
Women in Texas with complicated pregnancies are exempted from a state abortion ban...
So I guess a man with a complicated pregnancy has to shoot that baby out his bonus hole, like it or not. THE WAR ON MEN CONTINUES UNABATED.
Parents are free to cut off their children's dicks and sterilize them. They are not free to not vaccinate their kids. Even with religious exemptions.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/court-bans-religious-vaccine-exemptions-connecticut-children
Justice Jeffy on the bench.
Would there be room for any other justices on the bench once he's on it?
Lol. Definitely not.
To be fair, if progs have their way, parents will not be free to disapprove of the mutilation of their children's genitals and sterilization.
Parental consent is a red herring for pro-trans activists, they support it unless the parents object.
they are already doing this in the west coast where kids can be held against the parent's will and shoved through the tranny meatgrinder
Already law in Washington. Try and keep up.
Three weeks into its run, Barbie has brought in more than $1 billion.
It's almost like Mattel has a license to print money all the sudden.
Pink tax strikes again for Mattel.
Frequently? Like everyday? Like, how ENB frequently exaggerates when defending her sacred cows? That often? Wow, those guys in Etowah County, Alabama are dicks.
Coyotes and human smuggling. It's not a "moral panic", ENB.
https://www.thecentersquare.com/national/article_c0a62850-3460-11ee-be6e-8b689fee9f5d.html
A coyote, a colloquialism for a human smuggler, is critical to Mexican cartel human smuggling operations. Combined, they cover thousands of miles primarily guiding foreign nationals first through Central America into Mexico, then through Mexico and into the U.S. They also operate along the U.S.-Canada border.
Before foreign nationals ever arrive at the U.S.-Mexico border, many are robbed, kidnapped, raped and abused. Those who aren’t kidnapped, and willingly hire coyotes to help them illegally cross into the U.S., are engaging in organized crime, law enforcement officials have explained to The Center Square. They pay or pledge to pay thousands of dollars per person to be smuggled into the U.S. knowing that smuggling is a crime.
Once in the U.S., illegal foreign nationals become what many describe as indentured servants or modern-day slaves, because they are then trafficked into forced labor conditions. Human smuggling and human trafficking are two different crimes.
As The Center Square previously reported, modern day slaves are forced into horrific labor conditions; cartels control their movements, living arrangements and hold their identification documents. A large portion of them, including children, are forced into the multi-billion-dollar sex trafficking business.
In a 2016 Univision News interview, a coyote explained how he smuggled “people from practically all of the world. Not just Latin Americans. People from Asia, Africa,” into the U.S. Initially, he started smuggling with other coyotes. Within a few years, he started his own smuggling business to prioritize the most important part of the journey: illegal entry to the U.S. without getting caught.
Those being smuggled owe between $7,000 and $10,000 a person, the coyote said at the time. Today, estimates are higher. Chinese nationals who’ve been apprehended have told officials they paid or owed more than $50,000 per person.
ENB unironically posits the following in this very post:
I guess millions of humans smuggled by coyotes across the southern border is not frequent enough to raise any concerns. Not like the abuse of pregnant women in Etowah County, Alabama by drug warriors.
Exactly where did ENB say there are no concerns to be had over coyotes smuggling people into the country?
Doesn’t “worker exploitation” indicate a cause for concern?
She's labeling this all a "moral panic".
Also quick question, is moral panic automatically bad? If you have a moral panic about the goverment using orphans for aids research, wouldn't that be a good thing?
Apparently there's a moral panic over Iranian mullahs throwing gay men off of roofs, and a moral panic over kidnapped Nigerian school girls.
"Moral panic" means that it is largely irrational and is an inherently dismissive term.
panic
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a sudden strong feeling of fear that prevents reasonable thought and action:
I guess millions of humans smuggled by coyotes across the southern border is not frequent enough to raise any concerns.
Too local.
Jeff constantly defends GAC with claims conservatives think all gay people are molesters. They don't. It is a lie jeff uses since he can't formulate a rational defense. But even given that...
LGBT groups giving awards to people convicted of child molestation isnt helping.
https://thepostmillennial.com/charlotte-pride-gives-harvey-milk-award-to-registered-child-sex-offender
To be fair, Harvey Milk was also a child molester.
Was going to say, probably appropriate award given the name sake
Fair. And now California will fine schools 1.5M for not teaching about him.
Jeff constantly defends GAC
I don't defend GAC per se, I believe it should be legal. It is the difference between not wanting to ban heroin, and advocating for heroin use. Idiots like Jesse cannot see the difference.
with claims conservatives think all gay people are molesters.
I have never claimed that I think that all conservatives think all gay people are molesters. I *DO* think that those who oppose "the gay agenda" or "homosexual indoctrination in schools" or whatever the right-wing is calling it nowadays, are demagoging the issue just like they demagogue the issue of illegal immigration: they are happy to push and widely share stories of illegal immigrants committing violent crimes because it helps their cause of stopping immigration, even though those stories tell an incomplete picture. Likewise, they are more than happy to push and widely share stories of a gay person committing a crime against children because it helps their cause of stopping "the gay agenda" even though those stories tell an incomplete picture.
They are happy to smear their opponents with broad-brush generalizations to push their agenda and Jesse is no exception to this. They will say "oh, I don't think ALL gays are child molesters, but let me share with you 10,000 articles on Facebook that show gay people molesting children!!!"
And this is even evidenced by Jesse's next claim:
LGBT groups giving awards to people convicted of child molestation isnt helping.
See, there you go. Jesse doesn't think "gays are child molesters" but he is more than happy to share articles far and wide that shows gays molesting children.
LGBT groups claim any bans involving sex with kids is an "attack" on LGBT people.
If THEY say they are pedos, who am I to dispute?
Cite?
No.
OK, then we can assume you just made it up.
Nobody assumes that.
Mike, on friday you asked for a cite and were provided 4, 3 articles and one video. You proceeded to complain about the video while ignoring the other 3. When you came back the next day you dismissed the court documents responsive to your request as being testimony from a defense lawyer, which was a complete lie.
You have no interest in citations. You actively do everything you can to ignore and dismiss them even when exactly responsive to your request.
So fuck off.
Hey, Jesse.
If you don’t think that gays are child molesters, then why share this story at all? What does it matter when it comes to, say, the issue of gender affirming care being legal or not, or whether issues of gender identity ought to be taught in school?
Sure it is not a good look that this LGBT group gave an award to a person who was convicted of a sex crime against children. But how is this relevant in any way to the issues at hand?
UNLESS, the purpose of sharing this story was to smear the entire LGBT movement as being full of child molesters who shouldn’t be trusted near children. That couldn’t be the real purpose of sharing these stories, could it? Hmm?
“Oh no no no I don’t think gays are child molesters. But let’s just count all the ways that gays are child molesters.”
"If you don’t think that gays are child molesters, then why share this story at all?"
These gays definitely aren't: https://www.gaysagainstgroomers.com/about
But I bet they're on Jeffy's enemies list.
Jeff will never admit that group exists or not all gays approve of transitioning or sexualizing kids.
He is the only one here who constantly says all gays are pedophiles. Nobody else does.
the issue of gender affirming care
Every time someone uses this monstrous euphemism a mirror universe is obliterated.
"Gender affirming care" includes an entire range of types of care that can span psychological counseling all the way to gender reassignment surgery.
You mean brainwashing to genital mutilation.
Gender mutilation and chemical castration aren’t “care” no matter how much you want to fuck kids.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/uks-nhs-raises-age-government-funded-transgender-treatments-seven
Seven. Years. Old.
Eventually there will be tribunals for the people responsible for this madness.
Your naïveté is so cute.
Asia, the world's factory floor and the source of much of the stuff Americans buy, is running into a big problem: Its young people, by and large, don't want to work in factories...
Since when do they give 6-year-olds a voice.
Fiona has the solution!
"Democrats acknowledge that slapping Biden's name on the economy is a gamble, given the prospect of it moving in the wrong direction," notes Politico.
Given the prospect?
To be fair projections are always misreported high and the media runs with it. They just have to hide the constantly downward revisions.
They just have to hide the constantly downward revisions.
Or change the definitions of words.
Such as "Vaccine" for example.
Nobody changed the definition of the word, vaccine.
Sure they did. Vaccines used to reduce transmission and inhibit spread. Since your mRNA injection did neither, you started insisting that vaccines just ameliorated some symptoms (kind of like Tylenol).
Tylenol is definitely a vaccine.
Under the new definition, Jack Daniels is a vaccine.
Don't give sarc more reasons to drink.
Sorry Lying Ass Dee, they already passed “It’s not happening” to “It’s happening but it’s a good thing”
https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-976069264061
They did. There are receipts.
And there are plenty of other examples of words that have completely useless definitions now, because they only mean what the Left wants them to, when they want them to mean that, and not what they used to mean, or will in the near future.
They are basically the Cheshire Cat crossed with Humpty Dumpty.
I particularly like how it used to be "flu shots" but now it's "flu vaccines" because the hit-or-miss concoctions they create to combat the flu now meet the definition.
Arguing that the definition of “vaccine” somehow changed because of the invention of mRNA vaccines is analogous to arguing the definition of “aircraft” changed because of the invention of helicopters.
mRNA vaccines are just another technology for introducing a relatively harmless substance into the body to boost the future immune system response if exposed to a serious pathogen.
Someone should give Dee the link I provided above. She’s got me on mute.
"Experts say changes to CDC’s vaccination definition are normal"
https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-976069264061
AP News a reliable enough source?
The CDC does not control the definition of the word, “vaccine”.
Who cares if the CDC changed the wording on their website. Your own cite argues the insignificance of the change.
Oh wow. Everything from moving goalposts to lying about what the citation says in thirty short words.
Haha, awesome.
This was some great work, good job Mike!
Or “racism”
Recession is another good one, I also like gain of function.
Inside an abusive anti-porn camp for teens.
Anti-self-abuse porn camps.
What a summer that was
Deceptions by "The Science" himself.
https://www.thefp.com/p/anthony-faucis-deceptions
On April 17, 2020, with much of the country still in some form of lockdown and news of overwhelmed hospitals dominating the headlines, Dr. Anthony Fauci, then a member of the President’s Coronavirus Task Force, was asked a question toward the end of a White House press briefing: Was there a possibility that this novel virus came from a lab in Wuhan, China?
This moment set the template for much that would follow from Fauci over the next three years. That is, evasion, deception, and misdirection about his support of high-risk virology research and its connection to the possibility that a lab leak in Wuhan caused a worldwide catastrophe.
We may never learn how the pandemic began, considering that the Wuhan Institute of Virology—an institute funded in part by U.S. taxpayers—deleted data about the virus, and given the secrecy of the Chinese Communist Party. But instead of offering evenhanded leadership that encouraged scientists to present alternative perspectives on this and many other issues that arose during the pandemic, Fauci pushed a biased view. Scientists who raised concerns and questions about our Covid-19 response were regularly demonized, even by a government official directly under Fauci’s charge.
Evidence of Fauci’s purposeful evasiveness can also be seen through the actions of a direct subordinate. Two months after Collins denied funding gain-of-function research, David Morens, a senior advisor to the director of the NIAID—at the time, Fauci—wrote in an email to Bloomberg reporter Jason Gale: “Tony doesn't want his fingerprints on origin stories.” In the email, Morens said he was tasked with speaking to reporters on behalf of Fauci about the origins of the virus. Later, in an interview with National Geographic, published September 2021, Morens, like Fauci, was careful to say all possibilities should be pursued, yet in the next breath said the point may already have been reached that continuing to look into a lab leak was “wasting time and being crazy.”
Fauci had promised the public that the WIV could be trusted. The fact that HHS disagreed—and decided to cut off funding—is a striking refutation of Fauci’s judgment. These new documents show that this is of a piece with a deeply troubling pattern.
For sound economic perspective go to https://honesteconomics.substack.com/
Fuck off and die, troll.
MacCarthy and her daughter wouldn't be the first multiracial family to find themselves facing human trafficking allegations at the airport.
My white brother had this happen twice with his half-Laotian kids. One airport experience was TSA trying to separate him from his son at security. The kid was 12 and not having any of it. Made a scene about being grabbed by TSA,
Good for him!
Whites and Laotians are not protected classes. This whole story sounds sketchy to me. Anybody who spends any time in public places will inevitably see "mixed race" families every day. Nobody cares. The cops can fuck with your white brother, Asians, Italians, Arabs, and thousands of other ethnicities all day long and they probably do. But because this kid is a member of a protected class a grifter lawyer can get involved and file a lawsuit. ENB is not curious about whether or not this woman was targeted because her child don't look white or if airport cops disproportionately target target black people. She just assumes that that is the case.
My little brother is adopted from El Salvador. The rest of us are mixed Latino/Hispanic and European, so rather light skinned, whereas he (my brother) is rather dark.
When he was about 3, my brother was snatched up by a postal employee while my dad was holding the post office door open for him to leave. She grabbed him right from under my dad's arm, held him up and yelled, 'Whose chile is this!?'
"Bidenomics—the name given to President Joe Biden's expansive economic agenda—isn't proving to be a big hit among the American populace, reports Politico."
"New Deal" was already taken.
“Depression “ did poorly with the focus groups.
Maybe "Great Shuffle Forward" will work.
'Raw Deal'?
So this is a "moral panic", ENB?
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/why-americas-woke-left-silent-over-blockbuster-child-sex-trafficking-film
A new American film that reveals the brutal reality of child sex-trafficking has been greeted with muted enthusiasm from the political left, which begs the question: does the silence equal complicity in the unspeakable crime?
According to estimates by the International Labour Organization, there were 24.9 million victims of human trafficking around the world in 2016. Yet for reasons known only to them, the left-leaning media and other institutions appear to be strangely anxious to draw the curtain on the Angel Studios production.
At a time when the question of sexual misconduct inside of the entertainment industry continues to grab headlines, as witnessed by the #MeToo movement, Hollywood’s indifference and even aversion to the subject of pedophilia and child sex-trafficking is strange to say the least. After all, as this cinematic biopsy rightly reveals, there are more people enslaved now, by sex trafficking, than there were when slavery was legal.
So why the silence from the progressive left on the Sound of Freedom, which Netflix, Hulu and Amazon streaming services have avoided like the plague?
In fact, there have even been calls to legitimize pedophilia and pardon those who are guilty of it.
Dr. Stephen Kershnar, a philosophy professor at SUNY Fredonia, is just one of many left-wing academics – are there any other? – who argues on behalf of sexual relationships between children and adults.
“Imagine that an adult male wants to have sex with a 12-year-old girl. Imagine that she’s a willing participant,” Kershnar argued.
“A very standard, very widely held view is that there’s something deeply wrong about this. It’s wrong independent of it being criminalized,” he said. “It’s not obvious to me that it’s in fact wrong. I think this is a mistake. And I think exploring that why it’s a mistake will tell us not only things about adult/child sex and statutory rape and also fundamental principles of morality.”
Not to be outdone in academia’s woke Olympiad, Allyn Walker, an Assistant Professor at Old Dominion University, has coined the term “minor-attracted person” in order to destigmatize the word ‘pedophile.’ Walker does not consider an adult’s physical attraction to a young child, even a toddler, to be a form of mental derangement, but rather a case of individuals not being able to control who they love, which is a very sick way of justifying child rape.
With such utter insanity in the air is it any surprise that California Governor Gavin Newsom signed Senate Bill 145, which lowers the penalties for adults who have sex with same-sex minors?
I think ENB has made it abundantly clear that she is pro child trafficking, pro child murder, and pro child mutilation
I think my favorite part about this film 'controversy' is how one of the strident "journalist" voices criticizing it for being a Q-Anon MAGA conspiracy circle jerk turned out to be a child porn enjoyer. Amazing.
Bidenomics doesn't resonate.
Biden higher GDP than Fatass. Biden better UE than Donnie.
BUT WHAT MATTERS MOST ARE POLLS!
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Speaking of pedophiles....
It's Soros Pedo Bushpig 2 pushing his usual lies and garbage this morning.
Growth of US economy under Trump was worst since Hoover
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GDP growth under Mr Hoover was negative 7.4 per cent. Mr Trump performed better, with the GDP growing 1.6 per cent during his time in office, but that number is extremely low when compared to every other president since Mr Hoover.
https://news.yahoo.com/growth-us-economy-under-trump-214116363.html
Please explain for the commentariart how you managed to get you original handle, "Sarah Palin's Buttplug" banned from Reason, and why you're #2, other than being a turd.
Mr Trump performed better, with the GDP growing 1.6 per cent during his time in office,
1.6% ? You lie for that shitty economy?
I said no word one way or the other about the economy, pedo. Now, will you kindly please explain for the commentariat how you got your original handle banned from Reason, and why you're now #2, other than being a turd.
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
Did anything happen at the end of Trump's term that could cause an economic downturn, some crisis or something, that would also give Biden a lower starting point making return to normalcy look like a big jump?
Hmmm... I wonder...
According to Trumptards the worst thing of all is inflation - which Biden has had to deal with.
You can blame the Fed, massive fiscal spending by Fatass/Congress, or better yet supply chain disruption for that inflation but it is the hangover from Covid that caused inflation.
Please explain for the commentariart how you managed to get you original handle, “Sarah Palin’s Buttplug” banned from Reason, and why you’re #2, other than being a turd.
You can blame the Fed, massive fiscal spending by Fatass/Congress, or better yet supply chain disruption for that inflation but it is the hangover from Covid that caused inflation.
All of the above, plus Biden's crazy spending.
Well, it's a really bad thing anyway. Anyone with savings had over 10% of their wealth destroyed in the past few years.
AND
GDP growth was shitty BEFORE Covid with a 2% handle.
When Fatass lies and calls it "the best economy ever" I call him a goddamn liar.
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
All I have to do is take a drive down Main Street. When Trump was president, all the businesses were open and few of them had 'Help Wanted' signs. Now half of them are closed and all of them have 'Help Wanted' signs.
"We don't need a war on screen time, writes Reason's Jacob Sullum."
We need new charges brought against Trump, writes the TDS-addled shit pile.
Nice little echo-chamber here. Might be too bad if it gets shut down.
It's the last refuge for trolls who have been kicked off of every other forum for being total cunts.
How is glibertarians these days lol.
What echo are you hearing? There are about 10 different topics in the threads.
A small part of me wishes that Section 230 does get repealed, because if it does, the Reason comment forum almost certainly would also get shut down, and then the conservatives who post here would have to go back to Rumble or wherever.
What, Koch doesn't want to bankroll liability anymore?
What a cheapskate.
Yeah, if it's one thing fat boy hates, it's when he gets pushback on his dumb assertions.
I dont get why jeff pretends he isnt for censorship even to the point of locking someone up.
Reason comment forum almost certainly would also get shut down
Please - not until Donnie is sent to prison. I want to rub the Cult's nose in that shit.
(for the record I subscribe to OBL's "Donnie is above the law" theory)
But there is hope.
Yes, but then you are full of shit.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
dreams of shutting down speech
calls himself a libertarian.
good lord
He is even supporting criminalizing memes up above.
Fraud is a violation of the NAP.
Of which you are guilty. You fraudulently present yourself here as a libertarian when you are nothing of the sort.
Has Jeff ever identified as libertarian? I know he's accused people here of not being libertarian, but I don't think he's identified as one himself.
It'd be a weird thing for a Nazi to do.
He does. He even once described himself as a socialist libertarian. Then a globalist libertarian. Basically he thinks it is an word he can freely add on while pushing leftist policies.
I am NOT in favor of repealing Section 230. That would be your tribal allies around you instead.
And just to clarify.
There are plenty of people here who add nothing productive or useful to the conversation and I would not be upset if they went away.
I don't want them imprisoned. I would simply prefer that they take their garbage elsewhere.
And *IF* Reason's comment system were to shut down, I would be a little sad for the little bit of productive conversation around here that would be lost, but I would not be sad at all for all of the trolls (mostly right-wing) who would be evicted.
I spoke too broadly when I said "conservatives". There are a few conservatives here who are thoughtful and promote important discussion. But honestly, I find most of them just repeat bilge and garbage and I wouldn't miss them.
There are plenty of people here who add nothing productive or useful to the conversation and I would not be upset if they went away.
Unfortunately for you, that includes yourself, Jeffy.
You don’t have to come here you know.
I'm sure his rants would be better received at the Daily Kos, HuffPo, or some other ActBlue forum.
the vitriol going back and forth on this board is the exact opposite of an echo chamber.
Are you high?
Detroit woman sues city after being falsely arrested while pregnant due to facial recognition technology
Nice headline. Rather a different lede.
The right to speech. Like him, hate him, this is an offense to the system and to us.
https://nypost.com/2023/08/06/trump-prosecutor-jack-smith-would-rip-up-americans-right-to-free-speech/
Day by day, the Biden administration is robbing your right to speak freely.
This time, Team Biden wants to gag defendants from criticizing government prosecutors.
That’s how courts are run in countries like Pakistan, Russia and North Korea.
Special counsel Jack Smith asked the court Friday for an order to gag Donald Trump from discussing the evidence the government plans to use against him or even criticizing the government’s lawyers.
Prosecutors are required to show the defendant all evidence that will be presented in the trial, but Smith is refusing to do so until Trump is gagged.
Trying to muzzle any defendant goes contrary to what the Bill of Rights and two centuries of American law stand for: putting the rights of the defendant ahead of any other considerations.
In 1986, the Supreme Court ruled in Press-Enterprise Co. v. Superior Court of California that the Constitution guarantees not only that trials are public but also that pre-trial proceedings are open to the public, except in the rare circumstance nondisclosure is needed to protect the defendant.
Attorney General Merrick Garland should have considered Smith’s shameful record before appointing him special counsel to investigate possible wrongdoing by former President Trump.
But then again, Garland likely wanted a hit man.
Trump's lawyers should move for a mistrial.
“Attorney General Merrick Garland should have considered Smith’s shameful record before appointing him”
He did. That’s exactly why he appointed him.
"Prosecutors are required to show the defendant all evidence that will be presented in the trial, but Smith is refusing to do so until Trump is gagged."
The USSA isn't becoming a banana republic, it is one.
Training materials also tend to tell people to go with their gut instincts. Unsurprisingly, this leads to a lot of racial profiling, with ill-informed instincts about what a family "should" look like coming into play.
"Oh, very well. 'If you see something, say something -- but your utterance must accommodate strange-looking and -acting potential families, under penalty of hate-crime law.'"
People should mind their own business. I'd like to see more signs promoting that.
It was an employee, not Southwest policy, and it was two years ago, why bring it up again? Yes, shameful incident, but painting all of Southwest as a racist karen when the fault was that of an individual racist karen is uncalled for.
It's almost like ENB is a disengenuous cunt
For some reason, ENB seems to be on the side of those calling child sex trafficking a "moral panic" right now. Using a story about an employee of SWA from two years ago is indeed a disingenuous stunt.
Propagandists gotta propaganda.
>>is uncalled for.
all attacks on Jim Caviezel are called for no matter how tangential.
Everyone knows child traffickers prefer spirit airlines
Well, it's settled: Ron DeSantis' campaign is officially doomed.
DeSantis: ‘Of course he lost’
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/07/ron-desantis-rejects-trumps-2020-election-claims.html
No way he wins now without validating Trump's election lies.
So I think this might be one reason why Trump is thinking about skipping the first debate. He doesn't want to go on stage with DeSantis who will almost certainly call him out as a loser who lost. DeSantis would humiliate the fuck out of Trump and thin-skinned narcissist Trump cannot handle that. Maybe Fox News could put the two podiums right next to each other so there would be literal physical violence between the two. That would be something to see.
Double-header cage match! Elon vs Zuck, Trump vs DeSantis!
Donnie is most afraid of Chris Christie.
No one is afraid of Chris Christie. Except if you are between him and a donut shop.
Christie/Prtizker 2024: The Race for the Big Donut.
Beeg Boy will rain insults on Donnie because he has no chance at the nomination otherwise.
Da Meatball will play it safe and be polite.
So, let's see...
Pluggo is a pedo, racist, misogynist, and now, bigoted against fat people. Surprised Jeffy doesn't take issue with that.
Christie got humiliated by Trump and half the GOP primary slate last time around.
If DeSantis wins the primary all the talking heads will immediately fawn over him and declare that he can do no wrong. At least that’s what happened when Trump won the primary, and that “We have always been at war with Eurasia” moment is why I haven’t listened to a talking head since.
Yup. They will declare "the moment of Trump has passed", and then all the chatter now that we see about "OMG they are criminalizing Trump's speech!!!" will suddenly start to investigate the ACTIONS that Jack Smith is investigating. "You know, that conspiracy stuff is rather troubling..."
If they’re cultist as y’all have been claiming for years, they’re not going to abandon Trump.
If they do, then I guess that proves they weren’t cultist and there was maybe something more behind their support of him.
Yeah. Trump was never attacked. By anyone. Especially not the neocons you love.
Haven't you seen the early vote polling? DeSantis is indeed imploding as a candidate.
It's his teams fault, IMHO.
He should have been out there doing interviews and podcasts with substantial reach, like Rogan, Lex Fridman, Bill Maher, Jimmy Dore, Russell Brand and Peterson, but instead they kept him all bottled up and have been running a campaign from a quarter century ago.
Trump's got Truth Social so he doesn't need to do it, but DeSantis definitely needs to get himself out there.
Claiming we need to go into third world countries to fight antisemitism wasn’t helpful.
That's going to cause minor cogdiss for those who support DeSantis but still think as an article of faith that Trump didn't lose
How does it affect the TDS-afflicted, obnoxiously arrogant asshole?
Mitch McConnell Mercilessly Heckled During Speech With Chants of ‘Retire!’
https://news.yahoo.com/mitch-mcconnell-mercilessly-heckled-during-012919216.html
Can we just get rid of the gerontocracy? Between McConnell, Feinstein, Grassley, Biden, Pelosi, all of the ancient decrepit people there, it's time really to just get rid of them all.
Agree!
(And you are going to be so intentionally misquoted by the usual suspects on your wanting to “get rid of” them.)
Do you have a citation? You guys keep stating this despite links being provided. So please provide an example. Jeff failed on Saturday with this lie.
Wtf are you talking about?
"Mitch McConnell Mercilessly Heckled During Speech With Chants of ‘Retire!’"
Good
"Can we just get rid of the gerontocracy? Between McConnell, Feinstein, Grassley, Biden, Pelosi, all of the ancient decrepit people there, it’s time really to just get rid of them all."
I'm in complete agreement.
No no, we’re going to misquote him.
Hey look, something we can all agree on.
Mike Pence does not rule out being witness for Trump's prosecution
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/ex-vice-president-pence-does-not-rule-out-being-witness-trumps-prosecution-2023-08-06/
Well well, that would be something.
Sorry Mike, the Democrats still aren't going to vote for you, even if you let them do you dry.
Well since it's not up to him (he could be subpoenaed) I guess it's smart of him not to rule it out.
Republicans Compare Donald Trump to Jailed Putin Critic
https://www.newsweek.com/republicans-compare-donald-trump-jailed-putin-critic-1817733
Because of course - a man fighting against an actual despot on behalf of democracy, is the same as a man fighting against the democratic process to retain power for himself.
Okay, Trump defenders, answer me this:
If Trump is such a brilliant deal-maker, why does he ALWAYS seemingly wind up the victim? Why does it seem like he has been continually outmaneuvered by his opponents?
In all that time between Election Day and Jan. 6, why didn't he stop to think for one moment "hey, maybe I should think twice about doing some of this stuff, because if I fail my opponents will surely use it against me."? How come he never displayed any sense of the good judgment that a brilliant dealmaker is expected to have when crafting a strategy for accomplishing a task?
And if you say, well it doesn't matter, the government was going to throw the book at him no matter what he did or didn't do - fine, even if that is true, why did Trump have to make it SO EASY for them to do so? After all, Trump was BRAGGING ON TAPE about the classified documents that HE KNEW that he wasn't supposed to have. Trump literally pressured DOJ officials to send out a memo full of lies with no other purpose than to try to retain power for himself. Those are just dumb, clumsy moves.
Regardless of what happens with all of these indictments, this entire saga simply demonstrates that Trump's mental abilities and his decision making faculties cannot be trusted. He is not a brilliant deal maker. He is a whiny self-absorbed narcissist who thinks the rules don't apply to him.
Have wingnuts compared Donnie to Jesus and Sleepy Joe to Pontious Pilate yet?
turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
I'm sure it's coming.
"Have wingnuts compared Donnie to Jesus"
No, but...
Barack Obama Depicted As Jesus: 'The Truth'
and
NPR compares Obama to Jesus
also,
Obama As Jesus Sculpture
It's almost like you clowns forgot the entirety of 2008-2016.
Forgot? NPR, et.al. were worshiping at the feet of Barry the whole time as if here were some sort of progressive/marxist messiah.
On the other hand, if Trump is the modem King Cyrus then Biden is Queen Tomrys of the Scythians. Which means Biden’s big advantage, according to Civ 6, is horse archers, which are pretty useless in the 21st Century.
>>is White and her daughter is Black (in the lawsuit not the article)
using the two colors to describe people is retarded enough w/o capitalizing them for presumed legitimacy.
>>in China, where urban youth unemployment hit 21% in June
you can choose to not work in China?
And risk your social credit score by interacting with people?
Talk to the wrong person at work and lose access to tiktok.
Oh terrific. Another European war might be brewing.
Polish Border Guard asks for 1,000 more soldiers on Belarus frontier
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/polish-border-guard-asks-1000-more-soldiers-belarus-frontier-2023-08-07/
Biden started it.
According to the Trump Cult if a war begins while a Democrat is president then it counts as Democratic Neo-Con war point.
I discovered yesterday that Obama started seven wars (according to Mothers Lament) including the Iraq War.
turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
Ah, look. Another little Trump Cultist has crawled out from under the toilet basin.
MUST
DEFEND
TRUMP
ALL
DAY
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying. turd always lies.
turd lies. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
Oh look, it's Mr. #DefendBidenAtAllCosts even though he claims he’s “not a Democrat”.
And schiff. And media matters. And soros.
Are you trying to say that Trump secretly started this conflict?
My god, the man lives in your head 24/7. Seek help.
It isn't another war, it's another front of the same war. Poland is worried about Russian and Belarussian border infringement.
I don't exactly blame the Poles. It's just a matter of time until some dumb idiot sends a missile their way. Oh, wait, that's already been done by Ukraine.
Chtst.
>>Bidenomics doens't resonate
also doesn't resonate. I'd complain about a misspelling in the banner but Mike thinks I hate you guys or something so I'll just leave it hanging
Nice. Glad to hear I am getting you to think twice before making snarky little remarks against the website that is providing you a free-of-charge political discussion forum to hang out in every day.
I literally thank them repeatedly for the forum
If you aren’t crawled all the way inside their butthole, Mike thinks you hate them.
Never mind that people that complain are trying to get the staff to get back to some kind of libertarian thought instead of just giving up and moving somewhere else.
instead of just giving up and moving somewhere else ^^
Yeah, I’ve been wondering the same thing. Why does Diane/Paul keep living in a place (Seattle, I believe) where she/he hates everything from the local newspaper to the local government?
I apologize in advance that I will probably, at some point, forget that you said this. I don’t keep notes or database on people here.
So you’ll blame him for something he doesn’t do because you forgot he doesn’t do it? That’s pretty fucked up Dee.
Caw caw!
Media's creepy sexualized language when talking about Trump prosecutor, Jack Smith.
They just love his squat ebony body, and bushy red beard
Oh, it’s a 13-minute video!
Oh no!
Mike somehow fails to mention Paul linked to a 40 second clip six and a half minutes in.
So American zoomers and millennials aren't the only ones who are lazy fucks.
...“The problem is acute in China, where urban youth unemployment hit 21% in June even though factories had labor shortages.”...
Food being a requirement, you have to afford to be un-employed. Gonna guess some government policies make this possible.
Since it is urban unemployment, I wonder how many of them are middle class children unable to find work in a white collar field and whose family is unwilling to have their precious next generation go down the factory worker path.
>>attempts to clear up misconceptions about the latest Trump indictment
10 it's nonsense, again
20 goto 10
BASIC, really?!
At least do Python:
while True:
it’s not all nonsense # although a lot of it is.
In an NBC interview, presidential hopeful and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis stated unequivocally that “of course [Trump] lost” the 2020 election.
this is the new religious mantra that every public person has to reiterate for the masses before continuing.
Just like the religious mantra of "the earth orbits around the sun". You're right.
science. religion was the sun revolves around the earth.
Science isn't exactly Jeffy's strong suit.
nor logical fallacies lol
So, here's the updated Team Red playbook on the matter of school curriculum.
The old playbook was to have arguments and discussions about what should and should not be in a curriculum designed to prepare students to be critical thinkers and productive citizens in the modern world. Math and science education? Arts and music? Foreign languages? Etc., etc.
And frankly, Team Red has been largely successful, in that most schools now prioritize STEM education over all other types of education (to the detriment of a liberal arts education).
But that's not good enough for Team Red, which demands total compliance to their worldview. They want not just more kids going into STEM fields, they demand that they have a cultural curriculum that hasn't progressed beyond the 1950's. But not many people beyond Team Red are in favor of that.
So, since Team Red is incapable of self-reflection, their new strategy is: Declare the parts of the curriculum that they don't like to be child abuse.
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2023/08/a_backtoschool_warning.html
Parents’ first line of defense should be to protect their children. The toxic agenda in government schools is tantamount to child abuse.
This is consistent with their broad strategy in other areas: transgenderism, critical race theory, etc. It is to use kids as props and to weaponize the most serious and emotional accusations against kids to get their way. It is to completely demagogue the issue to death and trick people into voting for their agenda, thinking that what they are doing is voting against 'child abuse'.
So remember: if it's not Team Red approved, then it's literal child abuse.
get rid of public schools. Problem solved.
You'd make a good bureaucrat, you say a lot to maybe get to a simple point.
The public school system is designed to produce compliant workers, not critical thinkers.
Government schools are child abuse.
Quite the piece of evidence we were discussing a couple days ago that he’s a public school employee, isn’t it, given how vested he is in defending their supposed prerogatives and privileges. And note how upset he gets when the Republicans work that system to their own advantage, while being dead fucking silent on the fact that the Democrats have been doing all that for about 50 years prior to that.
Wingnuts are having a great time dumping all over the US Womens Team.
And they are puzzled why suburban women hate the right.
Suburban women, like blacks, aren't a caricature that vote in a "that person looks like me and does things that I am familiar with! I vote them!!" caveman fashion.
I work with lots of suburban women and the USWNT is not a hit with them. Either cringe or disgust from a lot of them, only the AWFLs are fans.
Bullshit.
What exactly in his post are you calling bullshit on?
You know who does not give two shits about women sports?
Women.
Of course, a lot of women care about women’s sports.
Some even care enough about women’s sports to play women’s sports.
Cite?
But not enough to make it profitable on its own merits, apparently.
Suburban women dont hate the right. They tend to be married women and married women vote majority conservative.
It is single young women who compose the vast majority of the left and they congregate in the cities.
Suburban women didn't even watch the women's world cup.
“This situation isn’t occurring in a vacuum.”
It’s not at all clear to me what the basis for this lawsuit against the airline operator is. If the guidelines airline personnel were following were mostly nonsense imposed on them by the Department of Homeland Insecurity, whose fault is that? Of course they can’t sue the feds, so maybe this is a question of deep pockets? Not impressed by the outrage here.
Same logic for people who want to sue social media companies for complying with regulations imposed by government?
Are you implying the government is using private companies to censor?
"... the statistics that suggest the economy is strong and the polls that find many Americans don't agree."
This is a good place to remind participants of a very entertaining but factually correct little book that is still in print: "How to Lie with Statistics."
You are making it sound like the feds are obsessed with consensual sex work. They aren't. If they were, Hunter Biden would be rotting in prison.
They came down on Larkin because he had made a career out of picking fights with politicians and other powerful people.
And Hunter Biden is free because he is family of powerful people.
It's all about power and people, not principles and policies.
The biggest canard this century is "trafficking", yeah it happens but it is relatively rare and prostitution across state lines is not "human trafficking".
Gee "Bidenomics" means a bad thing not a good thing?
Whoda thunk it.
I blame the movie Taken. It was a good action flick, but it spread the ridiculous idea that there are networks of sex traffickers looking to kidnap everyone's children.
The Constitution protects the "right to travel". The Civil Rights Act of 1964 prohibits race- or ethnicity-based impediments to interstate travel. Airlines have no right to demand proof of relationship of any passenger accompanied on domestic travel by a minor.
International travel requires a passport which establishes relationships in most cases. If this is deemed insufficient to prevent busybody intrusions, Congress should pass a law governing the topic.