We Still Don't Know the Full Extent of the Government's Warrantless Electronic Spying Program
The reauthorization of Section 702 is one of the most important issues facing Congress in the second half of this year.

Fifteen years after Section 702 was first authorized by Congress as a tool for foreign surveillance, there's never been an accounting of how many Americans have had their electronic communications scooped up.
Even attempting to calculate such a figure "would not be feasible," Sharon Bradford Franklin, chair of the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board, an independent executive branch agency responsible for advocating on behalf of Americans' rights in national security matters, told a House committee during an April hearing.
Franklin said the extent of that so-called incidental collection matters, "because the greater the number of Americans who are directly affected, the greater the need for Congress to ensure the safeguards throughout the 702 program are sufficient." In fact, she told the committee, the very notion of "incidental" collection is a bit of a misnomer. It is illegal for intelligence agencies to use Section 702 to deliberately spy on Americans' communications, but any message sent to someone in another country is fair game.
"Thus, incidental collection is a feature of Section 702 and not a bug," Franklin concluded.
The future of this incidental-but-intentional snooping on Americans' emails, texts, and phone calls is one of the most important questions facing Congress in the second half of this year. Authorization for Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) expires in December. While it will almost certainly be renewed in some form, the process offers a rare opportunity for Congress to change the program's rules to better protect Americans' civil liberties—and there might be bipartisan support for doing so.
When Section 702 was approved in 2008, it removed older provisions of the FISA law that required the government to obtain a warrant from the special FISA court before wiretapping communications between Americans and foreigners. Agencies must obtain permission from the FISA court before conducting any surveillance, but the court effectively rubber-stamps all requests and does not review specific targets.
As a result, "vast quantities of our communications are still searched and amassed in government databases simply because we are in touch with people abroad," explains the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU). There are at least two National Security Agency (NSA) programs—PRISM and Upstream—that rely on Section 702 surveillance. And, again, so many data are vacuumed up that the government's official position is that it's impossible to meaningfully quantify it, as Franklin testified in April.
Sarah Taitz, a national security fellow at the ACLU, says all that supposedly incidental collection of Americans' data is a "bait-and-switch" because "the FBI routinely exploit this rich source of our information by searching those databases to find and examine the communications of individual Americans for use in domestic investigations."
We do know how often that happens, thanks to an annual report published by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI). In 2021, for example, the FBI used its FISA powers to run more than 3.3 million queries through the Section 702 database.
The FBI reported a dramatic drop in the number of warrantless Section 702 searches in 2022. The ODNI's most recent transparency report shows that the FBI made 204,090 queries of the Section 702 database last year. The sharp decline is attributed to several policy changes implemented by the FBI during the second half of 2021 and into early 2022, including new rules limiting when investigators can access the Section 702 databases.
Even after that significant decline, however, the overall use of Section 702 for warrantless domestic spying seems to be on the rise. In 2013—the first year the government released this transparency report, in response to the outrage generated by Edward Snowden's leaks about the NSA's spy programs—there were only 89,138 targets for Section 702 collections. The most recent report shows that there were 246,073 targets in 2022.
More foreign targets of Section 702 spying likely means more "incidental" collection of Americans' communications and larger databases. The FBI's declining use of those databases is a welcome development—one that suggests reforms aimed at tightening how this information is used can be implemented without jeopardizing national security. But it is also something of a red herring, given that the extent of what's being vacuumed up by Section 702 remains unknown.
"Given the rate at which the number of Section 702 targets is growing, it's likely that the government today collects over a billion communications under Section 702 each year," writes Taitz.
There's also evidence that the FBI improperly used Section 702 databases to spy on Americans involved in the George Floyd protests, the January 6 riot, and in less high-profile situations. A Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court report unsealed in May showed that the FBI improperly used its warrantless search powers more than 278,000 times during 2021—before the FBI's internal policies were changed.
All these numbers are somewhat head spinning. Tens of thousands of foreign targets, leading to hundreds of thousands or even millions of warrantless searches every year through the potentially billions of intercepted communications. Whether any particular target or search might be justified, the aggregate numbers point to an inescapable conclusion: that the federal government is operating a massive domestic spying regime with little oversight and no meaningful concern for Americans' constitutional rights.
And unlike in 2018—when then-President Donald Trump grouched about FISA and the "deep state" but then signed the bill reauthorizing all this anyway—there might actually be a serious attempt at reform. On Tuesday, a group of six Republican lawmakers led by Rep. Matt Gaetz (R–Fla.) and including Rep. Thomas Massie (R–Ky.) introduced a resolution calling for Congress to allow FISA to expire at the end of the year.
"The blatant misuse of warrantless surveillance powers targeting Americans' communications should not be accepted or reauthorized," said Gaetz in a statement. "We must uphold national security without sacrificing the constitutional rights of our fellow Americans." In an interview with Fox News on Tuesday, Gaetz said he hoped to work with "civil libertarian-minded progressives" on the issue.
Meanwhile, in the Senate, some Democrats have expressed opposition to a speedy reauthorization of FISA and Section 702. Sen. Dick Durbin (D–Ill.), chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said in June that he would "only support the reauthorization of Section 702 if there are significant—significant—reforms. And that means, first and foremost, addressing the warrantless surveillance of Americans in violation of the Fourth Amendment."
Whether politicians as different as Gaetz, Massie, and Durbin can patch together a coalition that agrees on how to reform (or abolish) Section 702 remains to be seen. It's probably right to be skeptical.
Still, 15 years after Congress first authorized the warrantless spying program and a decade after Snowden revealed the ways in which Americans were being targeted by it, it's encouraging to see that reauthorization will not be rubber-stamped. At the very least, Congress ought to demand to know the full extent of Section 702 snooping—and their constituents ought to demand changes.
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How will this affect trannies?
/jeff
And will they still have access to small children for grooming purposes?
Greatly, they can find you said a bad word about "trannies" (even though you were talking about vehicles transmissions) in kindergarten and have you spied on and locked away for life so they can feel "safe"!
JFC, as usual with you tards:
6+ People (R): End FISA when it expires. Full stop. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200. Here's 17 reasons in a written resolution as to why it should expire.
1 Person (D): Verbally, I can say that I won't agree to renew without reforms... and I mean serious reforms!
Reason: BOAF SIDEZ!
What's the problem, Reason/Boehm? Afraid to admit that MTG or Gosar is in the right on this issue?
Boy oh boy were you triggered. What should the author have said differently to not elicit such a strong emotional reaction?
Boy oh boy were you triggered. What should mad.casual have said differently to not elicit such a strong emotional reaction?
He shouldn't have pointed out the disparity for supporting freedom since sarc believes the left supports freedoms more than the right. Said multiple times including yesterday. And we know sarc is the one true libertarian who does deep dive analysis, therefore we know mad.casual is wrong.
It's kinda like how you melted down in a malding boomer pile of Marxist bootlicking goo for 18 hours straight yesterday, except that mad.casual understands what the terms "strawman" "non-sequitur" and "ad hominem" mean.
Gotta agree with Sarc on this one. Everything you're stating to show bias appears to be sourced from this article.
In a discussion about the article?
Mike's socks are nearly as stupid as drunky.
Yeah, I didn't explain my point well.
You never do. It's largely because you're of sub-average intelligence and also a liar and leftist piece of shit.
Hi Tulpa.
Hi SQRSLY. Is this another one of your socks, or are you just obsessively white knighting like you do for the pedophile who got banned for posting dark web links to hardcore child pornography?
Thanks Pete. I'll accept that constructive criticism.
I hope anyone who cares got my point despite my poor language skills.
Luckily for you nobody cares what you say or think.
You got me there, LOL
With razor thin majorities in Congress a certain amount of bipartisanship is probably necessary. This is even more true when there are those on "boaf sides" who are likely to oppose meaningful reform. But, hey, you keep right on refusing to take "yes" for an answer.
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On my darker days I sympathize with skynet.
One tiny bit of comfort I take is that even with advancing AI, I'm not sure it's possible to meaningfully analyze the sheer volume of data they hoover up. Best I can tell, the NSA (and the intelligence community more broadly) believe the best way to find a needle in a hay stack is to pile up more hay. I say "tiny bit" because I'm not convinced either that most of the innocent info will be ignored or that sheer volume might not just let a genuine needle get through.
“the George Floyd Protests and the J6 Riot”
GFY
The J6 ‘Riot‘ suddenly became ‘demonstrations’ when Ray Epps is discussed
>>there's never been an accounting of how many Americans have had their electronic communications scooped up.
next sentence shoulda been "one is too many."
The actual answer is probably 100%.
oh ya no doubt.
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While there might be some justification for screening communications between Americans and foreigners, there is NO possible justification for subsequently searching domestic communications by those same Americans without obtaining a search warrant. If they find something suspicious in communications with foreigners there should be no problem convincing a legitimate magistrate of probable cause to issue such a search warrant. If the magistrate is rubber-stamping wiretaps and search warrants in such cases, then the problem does not lie with the law but, rather, with Congressional oversight. Nothing new here, but official abuse and overreach should be (but probably won't be) addressed by Congress!
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1. Find something annoying
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Example
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Article title
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Just read that climate change is causing cities to sink. Chicago as an example. Maybe. No evidence yet but it could happen.
PLEASE. Can't I even trust the weather people? ( Not climate people, weather. We mostly understand weather. At least kind of close.)
It is the perfect cause for any effect. I'm waiting for the article, "Climate change is making kids trans".
They won’t publish that article. That would cast trannies in a negative light.
Whether politicians as different as Gaetz, Massie, and Durbin can patch together a coalition that agrees on how to reform (or abolish) Section 702 remains to be seen. It's probably right to be skeptical.
In our attempt to *checks Peter Suderman quotes* not look like a Republican, are we reluctantly voting for the Democrat who wants to make some tweaks around the edges, but not before a serious, and I do mean serious leaflet campaign, or the dirty working class, knuckle draggers who want to abolish it altogether?
Man, articles like this really take you back to when Reason pretended to care about rogue federal spy agencies.
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Flagged for the umpteenth time Am I missing something? The exact same comment from the exact same user with the exact same link. Is anyone watching the store?
No.
I hope they don’t take the flag too seriously. Why the confirmation when I mute a user, because I can just unmute them again. When you hit flag – no confirmation just done.
I have fat finger flagged hundreds of comments. The stupid flag is right where I scroll the screen.
Yeah, guess I'll either mute it or just tell it to fuck off every time I see it. Which is every damn article.
It’s not just § 702 that is a problem. We saw from reports by the DOJ IG and two Special Counsels that the four FISA warrants on Carter Page were fraudulently acquired. Elements of the FBI knew, almost as a certainty, that he was not a Russian agent, and Steele and his Dossiers were highly unreliable, and had mostly been put together over drinks at a Georgetown bar. An FBI lawyer got a hand slap for perjuring himself, by revising an email that said that Page was CIA asset, to that he wasn’t. Then each of the four FISA warrant applications was certified by either the AG or DAG AND the FBI DIR or DD. That certification requirement was imposed for just that reason, so that the FISC had a complete record and file before it when issuing FISA warrants, and not the cherry-picked record with relevant information mysteriously missing. When asked about the certifications that they had made, their response was uniformly that they were too busy to check carefully, and had to rely on their underlings. What was the point then of the certifications in the first place, when the top officials could just play dumb (as they did there)? What were the ramifications of this bureaucratic malfeasance? Clinesmith got his law license back in short order, and former DD McCabe apparently got his pension back (despite being the one certifying official who almost had to know that the FISA warrant applications were fraudulent).
Dude, do you even culture war? You can't present corruption in such long narratives, or the two party manufactured division won't make sense.
Not sure your point there. Yes, there was a culture war waged by esp the FBI against Trump. Several of those involved appear to have been Republicans. It was the “deep state” against the barbarians at the gates. To name names, it was the FBI’s Counterintelligence Division, and the DOJ’s Counterintelligence and Export branch of their National Security Division - the organizations who apparently procure the bulk of the FISA warrants on US Persons. And who were also abusing 702 queries up through maybe June of 2016 (when they lost the ability to use “about” database queries). They continue to hound Trump to this day, with the branch chief of the Counterintelligence and Export Branch, Jeffry Bratt, behind the MAL raid, and now, additionally, as Deputy Special Counsel, the person who signed the Trump indictment.
My point is that these are the organizations you would expect to use FISA most frequently, given their mandates, and did so politically against Trump, among others.
The FISA courts have been abused starting from first day they were formed.
Just so long as the FBI is reformed and not abolished I'm pretty sure we can fix this. Probably just need some process guardrails on FISA courts. I can't see how secret courts of unaccountable bureaucrats can go wrong, unless we just need some more bureaucratic oversight, of course that's always reasonable.
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when then-President Donald Trump grouched about FISA and the “deep state” but then signed the bill reauthorizing all this anyway
I had two issues with Trump and didn't vote for him but sat out 2016 and voted Jo Jorgensen in 2020. One was under his administration Congress was allowed to spend to much and the other was he signed every domestic spying bill put in front or him (to his own detriment)
in the Senate, some Democrats have expressed opposition to a speedy reauthorization of FISA and Section 702. Sen. Dick Durbin (D–Ill.), chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said in June that he would “only support the reauthorization of Section 702 if there are significant—significant—reforms.
Off course, the Democrats have used FISA as a bludgeon against the Republicans but see things don’t look good with Biden and don’t want the next Republican administration have the same tools to misuse against them the way they misused FISA against the Republicans.