David Sosa Says Mistakenly Arresting Him Twice Based on His Name Violated His Rights. Other David Sosas Agree.
The 11th Circuit rejected Sosa's constitutional claims, and he is asking the Supreme Court to intervene.

Florida resident David Sosa was arrested twice because Martin County sheriff's deputies twice mistook him for a wanted man who had the same name but otherwise bore little resemblance to him. That unlucky experience, according to a January 20 ruling by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit, did not violate Sosa's constitutional rights. Sosa is asking the Supreme Court to overturn that decision, and he is not alone: He is joined by four other David Sosas who signed onto an Institute for Justice (I.J.) brief that underlines their common peril.
"As David Sosas," the I.J. brief explains, "they're interested in this case because the ruling below puts them at risk of a lawless three-day detention whenever they're in Florida, Georgia, or Alabama"—the three states that comprise the 11th Circuit. "If something like this could happen to one of the David Sosas in Florida," says David Sosa, a 51-year-old resident of Mecklenburg, North Carolina, "it could happen to a David Sosa anywhere, which is why I'm supporting this important case."
During a routine traffic stop in Martin County, Florida, nine years ago, David Sosa—the one who brought the lawsuit that the 11th Circuit rejected—was arrested based on a 22-year-old Harris County, Texas, warrant for a man with the same name who was accused of selling crack cocaine. "Although Sosa protested during the traffic stop that the wanted man's date of birth, height, weight, social security number, and tattoo information did not match his own identifiers," the appeals court noted, "deputies arrested, detained, and fingerprinted Sosa." They detained the demonstrably innocent man for three hours before releasing him.
Four years later, in April 2018, the same law enforcement agency, the Martin County Sheriff's Department, made the same mistake again. "Another deputy sheriff checked Sosa's driver's license during a traffic stop and found the same Texas warrant," the 11th Circuit explained. "Again, Sosa objected that the identifiers listed on the warrant did not describe him. Sosa also told the deputies about the misidentification in 2014." Deputies arrested Sosa anyway and "brought him to the Martin County jail, where, despite Sosa's continued insistence to deputies and jailers that he was not the wanted man, his detention lasted three days over a weekend." He was finally released after a fingerprint comparison confirmed what all the other information about the suspect indicated: He was a different David Sosa.
Despite this comedy-cum-tragedy of easily detected and corrected errors, a three-judge 11th Circuit panel concluded in 2021 that even Sosa's second arrest (the more egregious of the two incidents) was reasonable under the Fourth Amendment. "When a valid warrant underlies an arrest, but law-enforcement officers mistakenly arrest the wrong person because of a misidentification, a 'reasonable mistake' standard governs the constitutionality of the arrest," it said. Applying that standard to the deputy who arrested Sosa the second time around, the judges concluded that the differences Sosa noted between himself and the suspected drug dealer "were not material, viewed in the totality of the circumstances."
The panel nevertheless thought Sosa had stated a valid 14th Amendment claim: that the sheriff's deputies violated his "substantive due-process right to be free from continued detention after it should have been known that [he] was entitled to release." The en banc 11th Circuit opinion issued in January rejected that conclusion, saying it was foreclosed by Baker v. McCollan, a 1979 case in which the Supreme Court held that "a detention due to mistaken identity 'gives rise to no claim under the United States Constitution' when it lasts only 'three days' and is 'pursuant to a warrant conforming…to the requirements of the Fourth Amendment.'"
Where does that leave David Sosa? He was wrongly arrested twice and has no assurance that the same thing won't happen again. After the first arrest, the 11th Circuit panel noted in its 2021 decision, "no one created a file or otherwise documented that Sosa was not the wanted Sosa. Nor did the Sheriff's Department have any system to prevent Sosa's future mistaken arrest on the wanted Sosa's warrant."
Worse, Sosa's experience suggests that all the other innocent Americans named David Sosa have cause to worry that they could be victims of the same confusion. The David Sosa wanted in Texas, I.J. notes, is "not the David Sosa who chairs the philosophy department at the University of Texas. Nor is it the New York-based songwriter David Sosa. It's also not the David Sosa who's a cardiologist in Albuquerque, the one who works at the USDA, the law student at University of Miami, or the David Sosa who owns a construction company in Winston-Salem." All told, I.J. identified "at least 924" David Sosas in the United States, and "only one of them is suspected of selling crack cocaine in Harris County, Texas, back in the 1990s."
According to the 11th Circuit, none of those other David Sosas would have a constitutional claim if he were arrested and detained based on nothing more than his name. I.J. argues that the appeals court "ignored the Petitioner's Fourth Amendment rights based on a misstatement of law in one of this Court's decisions that has been abrogated but never expressly overruled." In Baker, it says, the Supreme Court "concluded erroneously that the Fourth Amendment has nothing to say about an ongoing seizure so long as police relied initially on a facially valid arrest warrant." That conclusion, the brief says, "is contrary to this Court's current jurisprudence and is no longer good law."
The constitutional provision that the 11th Circuit did address, the 14th Amendment's Due Process Clause, "should have also protected Sosa's right to be free from arbitrary detainment, but the court below flouted centuries of precedent establishing that fundamental right," I.J. adds. "It should have been obvious to both the arresting officers and the court below that police cannot jail an innocent person for three days before they verify his identity."
The problem highlighted by this case is not limited to David Sosas, of course. In 2020, for example, New Orleans Harbor Police arrested Sara Saucier as she disembarked from a honeymoon cruise to Cozumel. They claimed she was wanted in East Baton Rouge Parish for failing to return a leased vehicle in 2017.
"At first," Saucier told the CBS affiliate in Baton Rouge, "I thought they would realize they made the mistake and they'd let me go as soon as they did realize it, so I was hopeful at first." Instead, "she spent the day and night in Orleans Parish Prison" and was transported the next day to East Baton Rouge Parish Jail, where the sheriff's office says it finally realized it had the wrong Sara Saucier. The wanted woman was notably shorter and had a different birth date.
Jennifer Heath Box, a Texas tourist who was arrested in December after a cruise out of Port Everglades, Florida, was even less lucky. The ABC affiliate in Miami reports that she "spent three nights inside the Broward County Jail, including Christmas Day," because Deputy Peter Peraza confused her with a Jennifer Heath who was facing felony child endangerment charges in Houston. The suspect would have been 26, and the charges involved a 1-year-old and a 3-year-old. "I'm 49 years old—huge age difference," Heath Box told the TV station. "I don't have children under the age of 5."
When a deputy at the jail ran her driver's license, Heath Box said, her record was clean, but that did not deter Peraza, who was sure he had the right woman. "The whole time I was like, 'this is not happening,'" she said. "The strip search, the humiliation, the shackles, the prison uniform, being issued blankets."
I.J. is urging the Supreme Court to reject the notion that reckless errors like these do not implicate constitutional rights. "The Constitution demands more from officers who conduct warrant checks than the Respondents did in this case," it says. "It should have been immediately obvious that they had the wrong David Sosa before they arrested him. There's no excuse for taking three days to figure it out."
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"demonstrably innocent" is not for Police to determine.
Actually, it is. Police must have probable cause. When, by their own evidence and research, their cause is no longer probable, they lose all right to detain you. So for example, getting back a report from the drivers license check that you have the wrong person, any further detention is illegal.
I'm not confident that SCOTUS will defend us peons and actually hold the crooked and/or lazy and incompetent cops accountable but it is still illegal.
I think you missed the joke there. Poe's law.
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As long as the judicial system, law enforcement, and others are not held accountable for their errant actions, it will will continue to be a common occurrence, enlarging the group of citizens dissatisfied with our government.
When I was registering for university classes, I found out that there were three other people with the same first and last name, but different middle names.
Yeah, as usual, there’s some shitty linguistic shenanigans at play.
Namely, it’s not clear whether the contested action is the 3 hour arrest or the 3 day arrest or just false arrest in general. Further, the reporting makes it seem like, somehow, the wrong David Sosa knew the right David Sosa’s birthday, height, weight, SSN, and tattoo information at the time of the initial arrest.
It’s entirely possible and rather conforming to *r*easonable [drink] libertarian standards that police be allowed to detain someone suspected (even wrongly) of a crime for 3 hours or that false arrest be made ultra-mega-uber-double-plus ungood illegal.
Unfortunately, given Reason’s long-running habit of abject shittiness in this regard (victims shot in the back while fleeing getting shot in the front while running towards, people riding in a vehicle getting slammed against the back of a vehicle as it stopped, etc., etc., etc.), I can’t be bothered to look up the actual course of events and am just going to assume it all to be lies and something much more plausible, like one or more David Sosas work for Charles Koch, to be the case.
The source of the article is the Institute for Justice.
Are they a bunch of liars?
Ummm... to point out an obvious error, the story is not so much that the wrong David Sosa knew the right David Sosa’s birthday, height, weight, SSN, and tattoo information at the time of the initial arrest; it is that the POLICE knew that information and still arrested him. Having the last name Smith, I have had similar experiences including finding out I was on the No Fly list because of something another Smith with my first name did. This is a real issue.
30 David Sosas agree.
This is a real issue.
If it really is that real, what's your solution? We can't arrest or prosecute anyone named Smith? People with common names get released preferentially? We create a complex algorithm for people who can't tell the difference between two David Sosa's to execute without additional training?
No. If you told me you knew David Sosa's name before today, I'd be almost certain it was between complete coincidence and utter fabrication, not to mention completely missing if not contributing to the point. You don't know who David Sosa is either. More to the critical point, several states already forbid their police officers from holding anyone more than 24 or 48 hours without charging anyone and the question of "Exactly how long is OK?" is not new.
But you dumb fucks don't want to talk about that. You want toe the water or take "just the tip" and tacitly prop up the defund-the-police narratives.
It's like Emma Camp's retarded "Can you believe WI tried a 10 yr. old as an adult for murder?" article. Yeah, Emma, I can because that's how their system works. It's not the best system but the fucked up systems like CA and New York and Chicago where they let people they know are guilty off without charge and dump money into the Unions to pay for SROs to learn how not to body slam 110 lb. HS girls and let 220 lb. HS males whale on 130 lb. teachers aren't any better.
How about some basic due diligence?
If a few characteristics among the height, age, eye color, race, etc. of your detainee obviously don’t match the details on the warrant, then you let them go, or at the very least you take the time to check their fingerprints now. Fingerprint checks are all done on computers these days — takes about five minutes.
All of these things: comparing physical descriptors, taking fingerprints, checking identities, they are all things that the police already know how to do. No one needs extra training, they just need to make sure they do them promptly when people are arrested.
I would hope we could all agree that detaining an innocent person is a very bad thing, and that the police should make avoiding it a priority. Sadly, experience has taught me that some people will defend any injustice if fixing it would require that the police put in any amount of additional effort.
How about some basic due diligence?
Are you saying this because you know lawyers who actually do due diligence never make mistakes or because you did your due diligence to know that they didn't do theirs. Or did you just rely on Reason's nonsense about how wrong Sosa, somehow, knew right Sosa's bona fides immediately upon arrest?
I would hope we could all agree that detaining an innocent person is a very bad thing, and that the police should make avoiding it a priority.
Holy shit! Did you shift from "arresting" to "detaining" on purpose or did you just fuck up your own due diligence? Are you really going to say that police being unable to detain *anyone* for even 3 hours without charging them is a good thing? Again, even by you retards' own precepts it's not a clearly better answer or solution. If you cut it down to 24 hrs., the pressure for police or the DA to find or invent false or inflated charges to hold them on only goes up.
I'd say you guys are mental midgets, but these are your own arguments against policing and the justice system and, by and large, midgets aren't midgets because they cut themselves off at the knees.
Three days. They locked him up over the weekend because they couldn’t be bothered to check his fingerprints promptly.
You can play all the stupid vocabulary games you like, but you cannot wish away that central fact. And I’m not saying 24 hours. I am saying that when the police bring someone in on a warrant, the first thing they should do when they get back to the station is to confirm his or her identity. It’s not a large ask, and whether they have the right person matters quite a bit.
As a final note on the usage of vocabulary: “due diligence” and “detain” meant exactly what they said. Your attempt to turn your inability to read context clues into a gotcha makes you appear to be exactly what you are: a midwit attempting desperately to assert an intellectual superiority that he cannot earn through merit.
You are mediocre. You will always be mediocre.
You are mediocre. You will always be mediocre.
I’m the midwit? Here’s a hint, dumbass: if the police are rolling your fingers for prints (per your request), you aren’t a detainee or detained, even if it only takes 5 min.
You don’t care about Sosa or the law or anything else. You just want it to be your boot that gets licked. And, to wit, you can fuck off with the rest of the slavers. You’re as fucking retarded and clueless about the law and liberty as any of other Teen Reason contributors around here.
How the hell is holding police responsible for egregious mistakes "defunding"? When the state entrusts people with guns and the power to forcibly throw people in a cage, I don't think it's unreasonable to hold them to high standards. If you're actually making these arguments in good faith and not because it's Shit on Reason (spoiler: that's every day), I can only assume you love the taste of cop boots.
I'll leave aside the question of why the hell I should care about some guy selling crack twenty years ago.
How the hell is holding police responsible for egregious mistakes “defunding”?
First, this is the same magazine that when the Trump administration used tear gas to disperse crowds and had federal agents removing and detaining people for several hours for no-shit rioting and arson was acting like democracy had fallen.
Second it's not defunding, it's like the defunding narrative (tacitly, as in they don't come out and say it like when they supported #defund explicitly as mentioned above), where a far more systemic issue is trivialized because the narrator is an activist, moronic child, or both.
2-3 days without charge is the standard whether we like it or not and the focus on a name mix up is, rather apparently, not an obvious reason to change it. As I've pointed out elsewhere, Chicago has something like 500 cases of people being held for longer than 3 days without being charged every year without any case of mistaken identity, which is phenomenally more than the story covers here but is something less than 1% of the arrests in Chicago, which have an average time-to-release of 10 hours. All of which is to say nothing about Chicago's <35% murder clearance rate.
I oppose the 3 day waiting period for firearms purchase in IL but opposing the 3 day waiting period because some FFL confused one Dave Sosa for another Dave Sosa is not a very sensible and/or durable reason to do something about the waiting period. Do away with both 3 day periods because they are illegal infringements. Expect that people will still be held or have their guns denied to them regardless of name or time limit set.
The issue is much deeper and more difficult to address seriously than finding two news-bytes every couple years CNN-style. If I/we can't even hold Reason to standards below their own parody, how are any of the rest of the actual libertarian issues going to get fixed? Maybe that's the point.
Can they tell a man in his 50's from a 22 year old? Can they tell height and weight differences? You can bootlick all you want, but there's no excuse for this other than just sheer incompetence. The only other possibility is that the officers just wanted to arrest someone to make themselves look good and this guy was there.
It's either incompetence or pure evil intent. So which is it?
there’s no excuse for this other than just sheer incompetence.
You and Smith1 seem to think the issue is with excuses. When the issue is about blind emoting about vague desires for some unrealized notion of perfection. Do you really think someone, cop or otherwise, is going to be held criminally liable for confusing David M. Sosa for David N. Sosa? Per your own, apparently stupefying, precepts they're going to get, at best, time off for more training.
Further, if Reason can't get clear about who knew what and when, perpetuating the cycle of blind, factless emoting at the internet, much less address the issue about "How long can the police hold someone under (un)reasonable suspicion?" which is much older than any of us or even the LP itself, why the fuck should I care about any number of Sosa's grievances?
Why would anyone, even fans of Reason, bother to wade in to that thicket of tall weeds growing out of utter bullshit except to signal to their friends how oppressed they are by having waded into the tall weeds and gotten covered in bullshit?
Do you really think someone, cop or otherwise, is going to be held criminally liable for confusing David M. Sosa for David N. Sosa?
Will be, or should be? Because that's literally their one and only job. Making sure you are at least reasonably sure you've got the right guy is the most basic element of detective work. Simply sharing a common name with a suspect is perhaps reason for further investigation, but by itself it's not anywhere near probable cause for an arrest.
Will be, or should be?
False dichotomy. The other side of the false dichotomy that I'm getting smeared against me and, if you look at it all together make more of a truth quadraplex (or more):
Q: Will or should the Federal Government control policing down to The County level for mistaking David Sosa for David Sosa?
A: Fuck no. Between places like Oakland, where intervention, at best, didn't make a meaningful difference and places like CA, IL, and NY where the state is knowingly releasing people they *know* to be guilty as part of a national collaborative effort, I'm completely unconvinced that the idea that we need to seriously overturn policing nationwide because Martin County can't differentiate between two Sosas is in any way a meaningful argument. It's rather literally forcing (rather than getting stuck with) 'corner cases make for bad law'.
No one is attempting to smear you with anything. My question was pure cynicism that "of course no cop will actually face consequences for their sloppy abrogation of an innocent man's rights", not an inquest into your motives. Should the cops be held responsible? Absolutely. Police who cannot even be bothered to attempt to distinguish between people with similar names do not need to be police. This isn't a corner case. This isn't some difficult situation where a reasonable person simply made a mistake in the heat of the moment. Incompetence cannot be the standard for people who are entrusted to have power and authority over others.
No one is attempting to smear you with anything.
I didn't necessarily mean you.
This isn’t a corner case.
So there are hundreds of David Sosas getting arrested multiple times for the crimes of other David Sosas every day/week/month/year? Because the article only covers 3 loosely-related cases of mistaken identity in 3 yrs. nationwide divided between county police and . Seems like Chicago PD alone accidentally shoots or wrongly arrests more people without any mistaken identity at all in a day, if not most certainly a week.
Incompetence cannot be the standard for people who are entrusted to have power and authority over others.
So we escalate the issue to the totally-competent Feds? We assume Reason, who can't even lay out the story coherently is competent? That everyone who works wholly off of Reason's narrative is competent? Or do we allow Martin County to vote out the old sheriff as they see fit?
JFC, you people act like grown four year olds throwing a "I want my justice and I want it now!" tantrums. When anyone who isn't an adult throwing a tantrum begins to ask completely reasonable questions like "OK, when was the last time you saw your justice?" or "Would you accept someone else's idea of justice that looks kinda like yours?" you just shout "This isn't *my* justice! I want *my* justice!"
It shouldn't be necessary for the federal government to micro-manage county or city police. But when cities, counties and states fail to do their job of holding people accountable, what are you gonna do? Shrug and ignore the injustice? Federalism is a valuable means to an end, but it's not an end in itself.
When a person who is a 6'5", white, male, aged 26 years old and with a left BK amputation and peg leg is arrested and held for more than 3 hours (let's be generous) on a warrant that describes a 5'6" black female, aged 62 years old with a missing left ear - somebody needs to pay. The "pay" may be financial but it does not need to be. It can be in form of a lost job, a demotion, a letter of reprimand in their file, or lacking any of those, public identification and humiliation.
On the other hand I suppose that we should be cautious in what we ask for. With the current state of law enforcement and the judiciary in this country now, we don't want to establish too much in the way of incentive for the system to decide it's better (or cheaper) to go ahead and convict and incarcerate the 6'5" male than to hold him after 3 or 4 days and let him go.
Just how far do you trust the system these days?
When a person who is a 6’5″, white, male, aged 26 years old and with a left BK amputation and peg leg is arrested and held for more than 3 hours (let’s be generous) on a warrant that describes a 5’6″ black female, aged 62 years old with a missing left ear – somebody needs to pay. The “pay” may be financial but it does not need to be. It can be in form of a lost job, a demotion, a letter of reprimand in their file, or lacking any of those, public identification and humiliation.
I don’t disagree. My point is, if Reason were even remotely interested in making an objective and honest argument, we’d know the age, height, weight, etc. distinctions between the two David Sosas (as well as the details about when things became known and exactly what was being prosecuted) rather than just speculating there’s a 20 yr. age and 50 lb. weight difference when that may not be the case or relevant to the case at all. If it’s wrong for prosecutors to wrongly convict people on wild speculation, it should be wrong for everyone. That's how this whole holding people to standards thing works. Again, half or more of the problem with over-policing, lockdowns, etc., etc., etc. is the media advancing an abjectly biased, and I don’t mean against police, and utterly bullshit hyperbolic narratives.
It’s been pointed out before: before the “Summer of Love”, Trump was making headway on police reform *within the GOP* with the FIRST STEP Act, after the BLM-Antifa Spring and Summer of Love, nobody will touch police reform who isn’t a leftists deliberately setting violent felons free to pander to those special interests. The #ACAB/#defundThePolice and #BLM/Antifa combo set actual serious/honest/durable, and equitable, police reform back a decade, if not more. If one were more conspiratorial, one might conceptualize that The Left recognized that reform (and how detrimental it could be to their political power) and fomented what happened to counteract the prevailing social/political winds.
22 year old warrant for something that shouldn't be a crime.
Not only that, how would you even prosecute a case like that after 22 years?
Yeah, with made up BS like most other cases. But still
That's a matter for the prosecutor in Texas to decide, the Florida pigs are just there to determine if they need to extradite you on the warrant. Which should have taken a few minutes to ascertain, not 3 days.
Here's five words no police officer in the history of history has ever said: "I'm sorry, I was wrong."
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She was a Trump supporter, so in Pussy’s mind she isn’t human.
Was/is he a drag queen? That’s all that matters.
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Was/is he a member of a group containing (polluted by) any illegal sub-humans, trannies, accused “groomers”, abortionists, gays, heathens, infidels, vaxxers, mask-wearers, atheists, Jews, witches, or, the very WORST of them all, being one of those accused of STEALING THE ERECTIONS OF OUR DEAR LEADER!!!!
That’s all that matters.
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How do you feel about that Mormon cop from Idaho who's fucking your ex-wife now, sarcasmic? You reckon he's one of them thar cunt-sore-va-turds?
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Nobody read that, sarcasmic.
So is SQRLSY what happens when Sarc stops taking his meds?
It's what happens when he gets drunk-rage and starts 'tard seething and wants to post things that he thinks are too beyond the pale for his "serious" main account. Yes, the poor drunken slob actually thinks his sarcasmic handle has some form of respectability he might lose. He uses his KillAllRednecks sock for the same purpose, although I think he finally retired that one.
Sarc has been hiding from me since February. After he threatened to kick my ass, then sobered up and realized what a horrible mistake he made.
Just a gray box to me.
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I'd bet the ranch if he underwent a sex change operation but kept the same name, they'd arrest him a third time and charge him with impersonating David Sosa with intent to defraud.
You'd lose that ranch when they made her(!) police chief.
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If arresting someone based solely on a first-name/last-name match is Constitutional, why stop there? Why not just match on the first name? Or just the initials?
I bet “John Roberts” would be sympathetic to the plaintiffs’ cause.
I bet “John Roberts” would be sympathetic to the plaintiffs’ cause.
LOL. John Roberts? The one justice immune to criminal prosecution in the case of "Who shot J.R.?"
Presumably Sotomayor would be more motivated to avoid being implicated in crimes associate with her initials.
Not just names, skin color.
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Ass I understand, and IQ of -25 or greater makes you a shoe-in for LEO status!
Oh, and PS, there was a case of a LEO applicant rejected for having an IQ that was TOO HIGH! I am too lazy to find a cite for ye, sorry…
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Good job, sarcasmic. Usually you're too drunk and lazy to type 3 words into Google and find a cite for your mostly made up stories.
You know, even if you hadn’t outed this sock dozens of times by cross-posting your retarded copypasta on your sarcasmic handle by mistake, your obsession with your vaunted 130 Cosmo online IQ test score would be what we call a “tell”, drunky. It’s amazing how shitty you handle hopping faggots are at doing something as simple as just keeping your personal bugaboos out of your other personas. You’re like a stage actor playing Oedipus who suddenly breaks character in the middle of the scene and shouts at the audience that he’s not a motherfucker.
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Nobody read that, sarcasmic.
Nobody read that, Satan.
He’s the one non spammer I mute.
And an IQ of over 75 disqualifies you to be LEO.
Cops arrest a guy over a 20+ year old drug warrant, but the FBI and SS couldn't really care less about a bag of cocaine in the White House.
Is there a starker illustration of the farce of the drug war? That drugs are apparently no big deal used by the top leaders of our government (or their family), but super-serious when used by others
That drugs are apparently no big deal used by the top leaders of our government (or their family), but super-serious when used by others
Well, yeah. There’s always been a two-tired legal system. One for those with wealth and connections, and another for the rest of us.
That’s not why you went to jail on multiple felony counts, drunky. You went to jail because you were guilty, just like you lost your kids because you were guilty of sexually abusing them. If you had ever once in your entire life actually taken accountability for your shitty behavior you probably wouldn’t be a reviled piece of shit living bottle to bottle in a section 8 apartment pissing away your pathetic excuse for a life sucking off the taxpayer tit while spending 16 hours a day, 7 days a week posting ActBlue talking points on a poorly trafficked formerly libertarian progressive pop culture blog.
It's also rather hilarious seeing you seethe about a two tiered justice system after the 7 years you've spent defending a two tiered justice system.
I'm honestly going to be so fucking happy when you finally die of cirrhosis that I might actually fucking orgasm.
Yes, I hear that Pete Cums-into-the-Baaa-Baaa Gay Sheep, Dead Sheep, Rotted Sheep, Etc., has been without sex with dead people... Death THRILLS it... For many years! And has shed many bitter tears! That it is looking forward to ass much death ass it can find! That's why it got kicked out of MANY jobs at MANY morgues, for being caught fucking the corpses!
Poor, poor, pitiful Pete Cums-into-the-Baaa-Baaa Gay Sheep, Dead Sheep, Rotted Sheep, Etc.!!!
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha, really hit the nerve there eh, drunky? I'm glad you told me. If you didn't wear your 'tard rage on your sleeve it would be a lot more difficult to goad you into spaz-posting replies from the wrong account again.
He might not make it that far. A miserable, cowardly pussy like SARCLSY might end up offing himself.
"There’s always been a two-tired legal system. One for those with wealth and connections, and another for the rest of us."
Yup-yup-yo and a bottle of rum! (Well, actually, a bottle of cum, for Pete Cums-into-the-Baaa-Baaa Gay Sheep, Dead Sheep, Rotted Sheep, Etc.).
OJ Simpson proved that a LONG time ago!
How much justice do you want? How much money and fame do you have? Just like OJ Simpson with his 11-month trial! Peons like me don’t get that! I get a 2-day trial at best!
Keep in mind that OJ Simpson got an 11-month criminal trial! And a 4-month civil trial!
I love when I've got sarcasmic drunk-seething so hard he obsessively humps my leg and replies to himself.
Is there a starker illustration of the farce of the drug war?
I've been gone for about a week and a half. Would I be crazy to presume that Reason's coverage follows suit to a 'T' and we've got more articles on David Sosa's drug use than we do Hunter Biden's or that the coverage between the two is treated effectively equivalently despite the gross disparity in the breadth and depth of power abuse (including media manipulation) or no?
Like the only reasonable libertarian position is that the Martin County PD needs to be taken over by the Feds because Ofc. Blow, Joe confused D. Sosa age 24 with D. Sosa age 42 but the SS telling the HAZMAT crew to ut-shay the ell-hay up-ay about the asally-nay administered-ay opical-tay nesthentic-ay after every last one of them spent more than a full year shutting down every last story about the laptop is just how the country should be run.
People forget how much cocaine has been through the WH in the past 50 years... I lived in DC I can tell you it is a bit more than you think. And WTF cares anymore the Biden family is trash as much as the Kennedy or Giuliani families. Divorce, mistresses, secret kids, and drugs are just the start. Nobody in DC knows or has "family values" so the second those words are spoken you should know they are lying to people.
Obviously the solution is to mandate government-issued names for newborns (and immigrants).
Your ID will be a unique bar code tattoo on your forehead, to eliminate ANY possible confusion! What could go wrong?
Sounds like the vaccine passports you spent 3 years defending, sarcasmic.
Thank god I had my name legally changed from David Sosa to Charles Manson.
I had a high-school friend who tried to change their name legally to Charles Manson. The official response was hell no.
The Government-ing will continue until morale improves.
If the 3 cases of mistaken identity that Reason and the IJ found in the last 3 yrs. keeps up, we'll reach pandemic-level nationwide lock downs sometime in the next 300 million years! Assuming we had some method of bringing individual remote County PDs to heel under some over-arching policy or regime that is...
"These aren't the David Sosas you're looking for"
-Obi Wan
Excellent.
In the opposite outcome... I know a guy who had the same first name, last name, middle initial, date of birth, and county/state of birth as someone with a murder warrant for arrest. He got pulled over by a cop one time and after several questions and a very long traffic stop confirming his identity the cop told him what was going on and he was free to go.
We're approaching 400 million people in the US. Duplicate first/last names abound. Cops need to do more than match a name.
Cops need to do more than match a name.
Again, you tards, this isn't a new issue. Cops don't always get a name. They get "6'4" black male, late 40s, blue shirt, white jogging pants, tattooed forearm, driving a gold, 4-door Hyundai". If they find a 6'3" black male, early 40s, turquoise shirt, cream jogging pants, elbow tat, driving a 2-door Honda, they can (depending on the state and/or the crime) hold him for up to 3 days without a name *and* without charging him. This has been true since Andy Griffith started locking up Otis. The fact that we went through lockdowns, the fall of Hong Kong, Britney Griner, the non-arrest and conviction of Hunter Biden, the non-arrest of Anthony Fauci, the multiple indictments of Trump, etc., etc., etc. and people are *suddenly* freaked out that police can effectively hold somebody for up to 72 or even 96 hours without charging them is more notable for how stupid people are rather than how well or poor the law is constructed and enforced.
Jesus Fucking Christ were you people not around when Trump had Federal Officers removing people from the scene at the Federal Courthouse? Were you not here for AOC's retarded "I got arrested for free speech!" stunt? Was nobody around for the arrest of Kyle Rittenhouse or Daniel Perry's arrest? How is any of this in any way mission critical, libertopian cine que non, news to anyone?
Seems to me the plural ought to be “Davids Sosa”, because we sometimes say (for example) “Davids Sosa and Koch” but never “David and Charles Kochs”.
This situation applies to me as well, for many years. Someone with a name similar to mine got a speeding ticket in 1984, in Chicagoland. I lived in Arizona in 1984. They paid the fine but didn't pay the $75 court costs. Now whenever my name is run through the system all hell breaks loose. I've spoken to them several times, they know it's not me, but I have to pay them if I want it to go away. This is standard fare for American government, the most expensive government in the world.
Is it time to allow citizens to sue police when this happens? I think so.
Letting police be sued without privatizing it is pointless; it just becomes a vehicle for arbitrary taxpayer handouts to various crooks without changing anybody's behavior.
If you want responsive, legally accountable police, the only way to do it is to private police.
What are the chances that David Sosa from Texas sold drugs to Gerald Goines? Harris county….. I think it’s worth looking into. Also, someone with my same name had a judgment debtors warrant for failing to appear at a debtors examination. After being repeatedly harassed by debt collection lawyers, I went to the court that issued the warrant and got a court sealed, judge signed order that I was the wrong person. I carried with me for 20 years.
She continued: "I also have a box. Does the other Jennifer Heath have a box? Case closed!"
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