Critics of the Ruling Against Biden's Anti-'Misinformation' Crusade See No Threat to Freedom of Speech
The response to the decision illustrates the alarming erosion of bipartisan support for the First Amendment.
Last week, a federal judge in Louisiana issued a preliminary injunction that bars a long list of federal officials and agencies from encouraging social media platforms to suppress politically disfavored speech. The response to that decision starkly illustrates an alarming erosion of bipartisan support for the evenhanded application of free speech principles.
"Although the censorship alleged in this case almost exclusively targeted conservative speech, the issues raised herein go beyond party lines," U.S. District Judge Terry Doughty noted in his 155-page ruling. "The right to free speech is not a member of any political party and does not hold any political ideology."
That observation had no discernible impact on critics of the decision. Some argued that the contacts at issue in this case, which primarily involved the Biden administration's efforts to stamp out COVID-19 "misinformation," did not amount to government-directed censorship.
"There may be circumstances where the government runs afoul of the First Amendment by effectively forcing private companies to remove protected speech," law professors Leah Litman and Laurence Tribe conceded. But they complained that Doughty's opinion does not "seriously engage with the issue of when that might occur" and instead "seems to maintain that the government cannot even politely ask companies not to publish verifiable misinformation."
That characterization of what the Biden administration did is contradicted by the copious evidence that Doughty reviewed. Those emails and text messages show that federal officials persistently demanded that platforms such as Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube remove content that the government viewed as a threat to public health.
"Are you guys fucking serious?" former Deputy Assistant to the President Rob Flaherty said in an illustrative email to Facebook, expressing frustration with the platform's perceived failure to do what the administration "politely" asked. "I want an answer on what happened here and I want it today."
Those private demands were coupled with public rebukes by President Joe Biden, who accused Facebook et al. of "killing people" by allowing the spread of anti-vaccination messages; Surgeon General Vivek Murthy, who lodged essentially the same charge; and White House representatives, who said the platforms must be "held accountable" for failing to meet their "responsibility." Murthy said accountability might require "legal and regulatory measures," while other officials threatened to punish recalcitrant companies by imposing new privacy regulations, pursuing "a robust anti-trust program," or reducing their protection from civil liability for user-posted content.
Nor were the administration's "requests" limited to "verifiable misinformation." Officials repeatedly pressed platforms not only to enforce their existing moderation rules more aggressively but also to expand the speech they covered to include "borderline content" that might be accurate but was nevertheless deemed "misleading" or unhelpful.
In any case, as Litman and Tribe surely know, even "verifiable misinformation" is protected by the First Amendment, which means the government has no business trying to suppress it. If a Republican administration deployed similar tactics against progressive speech that it portrayed as a threat to public safety or national security, one suspects, they would not be so quick to dismiss constitutional concerns.
At least Litman and Tribe admitted that the First Amendment is potentially relevant when the government targets online speech. The Washington Post, by contrast, worried that Doughty's decision "could upend years of efforts to enhance coordination between the government and social media companies," while The New York Times bizarrely likened the crusade against constitutionally protected speech about COVID-19 to "action against illegal or harmful material" such as child pornography or speech that facilitates "human trafficking and other criminal activity."
The Times had previously warned that "the First Amendment has become, for better or worse, a barrier to virtually any government efforts to stifle a problem that, in the case of a pandemic, threatens public health and, in the case of the integrity of elections, even democracy itself." That problem, according to the Times and other erstwhile defenders of the First Amendment, is too much speech by the wrong sort of people.
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People tend to be stupid.
More at 11:00
Sullum is a retard, more at 11.
This is what he voted for, now he acts surprised and alof to the results.
Sullum's other choice (of any real significance) was to vote for a democracy-devouring demagogue! We have ZERO chance of voting for a candidate that matches ALL of our preferences; Hello?!?!?
Orange-dick-suckers will NEVER stop sucking orange dick!
Der TrumpfenFuhrer ***IS*** responsible for agitating for democracy to be replaced by mobocracy!
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/24/politics/trump-election-warnings-leaving-office/index.html
A list of the times Trump has said he won’t accept the election results or leave office if he loses.
Essential heart and core of the LIE by Trump: “ANY election results not confirming MEEE as Your Emperor, MUST be fraudulent!”
September 13 rally: “The Democrats are trying to rig this election because that’s the only way they’re going to win,” he said.
Trump’s constant re-telling and supporting the Big Lie (any election not electing Trump is “stolen”) set up the environment for this (insurrection riot) to happen. He shares the blame. Boys will be boys? Insurrectionists will be insurrectionists, trumpanzees gone apeshit will be trumpanzees gone apeshit, so let’s forgive and forget? Poor Trump was misunderstood? Does that sound good and right and true?
It really should immediately make us think of Krystallnacht. Hitler and the NAZIs set up for this by constantly blaming Jews for all things bad. Jew-haters will be Jew-haters, so let’s forgive and forget? Poor Hitler was misunderstood? Does that sound good and right and true?
People better start thinking about what the government needs to do to warrant overthrowing them.
How many inalienable rights will the sheeple abdicate to keep our velvet chains of slavery?
These people are LYING TO YOU!
"If you like your democracy, you can keep your democracy."
The Meeting of the Right Rightist Minds will now come to Odor!
Years ago by now, Our Dear Leader announced to us, that He may commit murder in broad daylight, and we shall still support Him! So He Has Commanded, and So Must it be Done!
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jan/24/donald-trump-says-he-could-shoot-somebody-and-still-not-lose-voters
And now, oh ye Faithful of the Republican Church, It Has Become Known Unto us, that it is also in His Power and Privilege Ass Well, to murder the USA Constitution in broad daylight. Thus He Has Spoken, and Thus Must It Be Done! Thou shalt Render Unto Trump, and simply REND the USA Constitution, and wipe thine wise asses with it! Do NOT render unto some moldering old scrap of bathroom tissue! Lest we be called fools, or worse!
https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/03/politics/trump-constitution-truth-social/index.html
Proud Boys, STAND with TRUMP, and stand by! And if ye don’t agree 110%, then we don’t need you polluting our world, because all who disagree with us in ANY way are LEFTISTS!!!
There, I think that’s a wrap! I’ve covered it ALL! You can take the rest of the day off.
(You’re welcome!)
In self defence absolutely!
Trump offers real change that still resonates with people today.
He calls it like he sees it unashamedly. His wealth no doubt supports and enables his cavalier attitude.
We like his disdain for the establishment of liars in politics.
With the exception of great wealth, all of these "good" things you say about Trump? They applied to Hitler ass well!
Oh, I forgot... You're a Hitler-admirer!
Having refuted the holocaust story as told, Hitler is no bogeyman.
If you ever refute what I’ve said or provide irrefutable evidence supporting “the holocaust” that would change. Nobody has.
Who refuted the Holocaust?
Photos, survivor stories, soldiers’ testimony. Nuff said.
As Lao Tzu in The Tao Te Ching observed:
"Those who talk, don't know.
Those who know, don't talk."
That equally goes for the response to whatever nightmare regime you would dare impose on the inalienable rights of freedom-loving people!
One thing I will never silence, however, is this command, request, and battle-cry, one you'll hear often in whatever "Day of the Rope" jerk-off fantasy you attempt to live:
Fuck Off, Nazi!
Insanity is demonstrated by doing the same thing while expecting, hoping for a different result.
I ignore your feeble bleating and laugh while rubbing your face in the fact that you have never refuted anything that I’ve said.
Hahaha
"Sullum’s other choice (of any real significance) was to vote for a democracy-devouring demagogue!"
But enough about Joe Biden.
"Sullum is a retard, more at 11."
Yeah, the TDS-addled shit and his buds OWN Biden; he needs to quit whining about what he asked for.
Sullum is a retard, but he knows why he has those kneepads on.
Democrat malfeasance and abandonment of fundamental American principle being sold as a failure of "bipartisanship."
The democrats know that people are generally stupid, especially with our poor education system, and that they will vote for democrats no matter what because the professors are all leftists. So when people complain, I simply tell the to buy a mirror and yell at the people causing the pain! This is how totalitarianism is started: dumbing down the population!
Governments have absolutely no business in a web site proprietor's refusal to remove content.
Of course but when the FBI is breathing down your neck, you tend to obey.
DEFUND and DISBAND the FBI!!
Correct, but they also should not be telling people what to take down. That’s government censorship of free speech, which should be a hanging matter.
There is no misinformation. There is truth and lies, and those telling the lies are the ones that want to shut you up.
“the alarming erosion of bipartisan support for the First Amendment.”
That is a lie. It is the liberals/Democrats wanting to shut you up, the conservative fighting for free speech.
"... the conservative fighting for free speech.
Like the TrumptatorShit?
https://www.npr.org/2020/05/27/863011399/trump-threatens-to-shut-down-social-media-after-twitter-adds-warning-on-his-twee
Trump Threatens To Shut Down Social Media After Twitter Adds Warning To His Tweets
""There is no misinformation. There is truth and lies,""
There are expressed opinions. They may be true, they may not be.
The core of the problem is people are being shutdown for an opinion. Government wants to deny you a platform for your opinion if it does not meet the government's "standard".
The left are very short-sighted people. The right wingers would gladly use the same tools against them.
Use…the same tools…AGAINST them?
Oh my bleeding virtue!
"That is a lie."
Yes. One of the two major parties has given up on defending a fundamental aspect of liberty, and instead is actively colluding to impair it.
It's as if one of two players in a chess match decided to take a shit on the board and Sullum describes it as ending in a draw.
Because 'freedom of speech" to them is advancing the progressive narrative. This is why they support the speech of the Left and ban the speech of the Right (and for their purposes, libertarians are of the Right).
They see the threat to free speech clearly, Jacob.
It is what the fascists want, and they want to be the ones doing the threatening.
Just go back and read the democratic party platform you voted for.
The term “misinformation” is a lie in itself.
Quit using it, liars.
So then all “misinformation” is actually true? Does that mean that if I say that Kungpowderfinger fucks dead people, it has GOT to be true? Wow! Now I know! Thanks for sharing!
Are you familiar with the idea of weasel words, and why they are used?
I am familiar with the idea of people who call night day, good evil, and lies truth. They are of no real help to ANYONE who treasures the ability of language to actually MEAN something and convey ideas and truths!
And to be clear, IMHO, Government Almighty has NO legitimate role announces what is true and what is false, beyond a few government employee spokespersons explaining government policies and doings. Even there, we need a free press to keep an eye on them, and report THEIR versions of "the truth". I can decide for myself, as I will anyway, despite the meddling of busybodies!
Everything described as "misinformation" is not untrue. Everything that is not "misinformation" is true. That is the problem with wanting to suppress "misinformation", it is the desire o suppress debate over issues.
Agreed! Especially about the suppression of debate!
Here's where some confusion enters in:
In some courts, they make you swear to tell the "truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth".
So when a conservative asserts that "Government Almighty loves us all", the liberal will say that this is "misinformation", because it is basically true, but omitted PART of the "whole truth", which is that Government Almighty loves us all by forcibly being compassionate with OUR money!
And when a liberal asserts that "Government Almighty loves us all", the conservative will say that this is "misinformation", because it is basically true, but omitted PART of the "whole truth", which is that Government Almighty loves us all by forcibly being compassionate with OUR wombs!
What eccentric examples. You are comparing the Left's desire to steal and redistribute resources with the Right's desire to prevent the killing of humans, as if those are moral equivalents. Bizarre.
Here's what is bizarre:
Oklahoma now vying with Idaho for most fanatical!
https://news.yahoo.com/woman-cancerous-pregnancy-told-wait-215500885.html
Woman with Cancerous Pregnancy Was Told to Wait in Parking Lot Until She Was 'Crashing'
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/molar-pregnancy/symptoms-causes/syc-20375175
From there, we see that MOLAR PREGNANCIES ARE NEVER VIABLE!!! Yet fascist assholes like YOU want to endanger women in the Sacred Name of Unique Human DNA, which is present in a womb-slave!
From the listed source…
There are two types of molar pregnancy — complete molar pregnancy and partial molar pregnancy. In a complete molar pregnancy, the placental tissue swells and appears to form fluid-filled cysts. There is no fetus.
In a partial molar pregnancy, the placenta might have both regular and irregular tissue. There may be a fetus, but the fetus can’t survive. The fetus usually is miscarried early in the pregnancy.
It was the CDC and other government agencies who were trying to prevent mass death by getting internet firms to stop promoting junk science.
And how many things that the CDC published were proven false later? Shouldn't they be stopped from promoting junk science?
Almost as dumb as shrike, but much more succinct. Well done.
*golf clap*
“misinformation” is the word people use when they wish to avoid talking about the truth.
1A doesn’t exist to protect speech with which Biden (D) agrees. It protects all speech.
It protects all speech.
Apart from exceptions, of course.
Yes, but those have nothing to do with truth or falsehood unless you are under oath or in a contractual situation.
Fuck off with your exceptions.
Oh, come on! Do you favor "telling the truth" (without being punished for it) by publishing child porn, telling others of your desires for murder for hire, and selling national security secrets?
You really are quite the stupidest poster on this forum. Whether you're stupid because you don't bother to think, or because you're incapable of it, is left as an exercise for the reader.
All conspiracies begin as speech, and often enough continue as speech until execution of the crime itself.
Perjury is speech. Should it be decriminalised?
Defamation is speech. Should it be invariably protected?
Ideas aren’t crimes.
"I would like for you to murder my wife, and I'd be happy to pay you $100,000 to do it for me." (Not serious here, of course!)
As long as I keep that idea inside my head, and do not utter it seriously, I have committed no crime. So yes, pure ideas are not (can not be, should not be) crimes.
As soon as I utter that idea seriously to you, I HAVE committed a crime! Do you think that that should NOT be a crime?
Who was harmed?
If I shoot at you and miss... You'll say that you that have NO complaint, since no one was harmed?
"Some asshole pumped off 12 rounds at me, and missed every time, and then threatened to come around and try again, so... Let bygones be bygones! No harm, no foul!"
Guns aren’t speech.
If guns aren't speech, then neither is murder, which includes murder for hire.
Is he seriously trying to compare paying someone to commit a violent crime with the saying you would like to hire someone to commit a violent crime?
I’m pretty sure that’s the same logic Kamala Harris and other AG’s used to get the owners of Backpage.
Like "misgendering"?
John Denver’s testimony against Tipper Gore’s squawky speech control knitting circle was outstanding.
Time to bring out the fire in a crowded theater trope (which, interestingly, OW Holmes penned to justify….suppression of political speech the government didn’t agree with!
>>Apart from exceptions, of course.
fabricated to protect the government.
Including the speech of those whom you abhor. It protects even hate speech, foul and demeaning speech.
It protects the speech of those you would disagree with.
Amen.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: The democrat Party has been infiltrated and taken over by radical left wing extremists and post modernist neo-Marxists.
It's the only reason why we're witnessing all this trans trash being shoved down children's throats in public school, it's why criminals are no longer being prosecuted, instead released back onto the streets. It's why those who dare to speak out against this communist, Marxist Biden administration end up in jail.
The Bidens have infected America with their own special brand of corruption and sleaze. Joe Biden is totally unfit for anything except the dementia home. The White House has become a toilet of Marxist ideology.
After Biden leaves, the White House will have to be thoroughly cleansed, disinfected and every vestige of of that corrupt and useless administration tossed into a dumpster and burned.
Or burn the building and move the New White House to Iowa.
Why do you hate Iowa?
Might be too closer to Chicago.
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There is no such thing as government "politely asking". There is always the implicit threat of force.
Look, the only way to guarantee Good Democracy is to control what people know and think. Thus Righteous Government must apply the My Lai Massacre strategy, and destroy speech in order to save it.
After a decade and a half or more of this, with Reason seemingly taking the position that it doesn't exist (and even if it does, it isn't a big deal), having them finally swing around and start taking up the free speech argument brings mixed emotions.
While it is great to see Welch spitting fire on CNN panels about free speech, and this takedown of talking head propagandists trying to sell the virtues of a national censorship regime, one kinda wishes there was some form of mea culpa and explanation for all of the water-carrying they did over a very many years.
"I didn't know" is scarcely an excuse when you had plenty of HnR denizens detailing the effects of this censorship program and spewing invective against it on an almost daily basis, right in the comments to their own articles.
I think the phrase you are looking for is "a day late and a dollar short". Even in this article Sullumn still can't tell the truth. There isn't an erosion of bipartisan support. There is the Democratic Party completely abandoning its support. Reason can never criticize the Democratic Party. It can only criticize both parties. It is pathetic.
The free market will let you go to another website instead of this one.
It will also allow us to remain here and say fuck off slaver.
Bofe sides till I die.
"“I didn’t know” is scarcely an excuse when you had plenty of HnR denizens detailing the effects of this censorship program and spewing invective against it on an almost daily basis, right in the comments to their own articles."
You presume they are intellectually honest and interested in dialogue as a means for determining truth.
When what they really are interested in lecturing and avoiding any semblance of truth.
having them finally swing around and start taking up the free speech argument brings mixed emotions.
They played it safe, pure and simple. There's no other explanation. That and the writers at Reason seem to be nominally aligned with center-left establishment Democratic ideals (culturally liberal) etc. As Glenn Greenwald said in his interview with Nick Gillespie, there's a powerful motivator to not alienate yourself with your colleagues and friends (99.9% of journalism is wholly aligned with center-left establishment DNC politics) and you don't want to lose the cocktail party invites.
If Reason represents a "journalistic friend", they turned their back on us because, as Peter Suderman publicly admitted, "they didn't want to look like Republicans" and in the Age of Trump, that was the greatest sin.
They were ‘just following orders’
Not mentioned in this article is the verifiably TRUE content the government wanted social media platforms to suppress. All of the hand-wringing cited above is simply culture-war attacks from the usual suspects - academia, career government officials and the elite press.
Indeed. Further evidence that all the talk of "misinformation" is really misdirection intended to keep people from noticing or sharing the truth.
"Misinformation" isn't falsehoods, its inconvenient truths.
Oh truth that hydrochloroquine and ivermectin are effective treatments for COVID, that masks and social distancing don't protect, and that vaccines are dangerous?
Actually every one of those is a falsehood and to follow the falsehoods leads to illness and death. This was a pandemic that killed over s million Americans and the judge says that the federal government can't to anything to prevent death.
Keep dreaming. Ivermectin was intentionally mistested by the FDA as a treatment, instead of as a prophylactic, which is where it was alleged to work as. You need several days to build it up in your system for it to interfere with transmission of the virus. Those tested already had the virus in significant quantities in their systems when Ivermectin was introduced into patients in the hospital.
No evidence whatsoever that masks helped one bit, and plenty that it interfered with development of kids, who had effectively zero likelihood of dying from the virus. The claims of efficacy were all based on models, all of which wrongly assumed that transmission was primarily by droplets. It wasn’t. That was because droplets are only really expelled when patients are symptomatic - when they tend to self quarantine. In the case of presymptomatic and asymptomatic, the virus is expelled as a mist of virons, which are an order of magnitude smaller than the holes in an N95 mask, and several orders smaller than the holes in most handmade masks, neck gaiters, scarves, etc. making things worse, it turns out that the virus was primarily distributed by touch. And, yes, the vaccines have killed millions already, and continue to do so.
Jen Psaki is Miss Information.
It's why governments based on morals always moves toward authoritarian. It is why the first ten amendments are based on freedom and most of the rest aren't.
It is even worse when the morals involved are Left Hegelian - so not even recognized as morals by their strongest proponents. True believers who refuse to admit they are a religion.
Hey look-at-that. The Tech monopoly wasn't hard at all to spot.
"Those emails and text messages show that federal officials persistently demanded that platforms such as Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube remove content that the government viewed as a threat"
The one controlling MONOPOLY was 'government'.
Sullum and the other establishment cucks at Reason were big cheerleaders for censoring the "misinformation" during the China flu.
"Disinformation" researchers
Oh, and by the way, both words in the above should be in scare quotes.
Yeah the sub head repeated in the article "erosion of bipartisan support" is pretty sketchy. Sullum doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt after like eight years of making an ass of himself. But I'm feeling generous today. It would be accurate to say that because one party, the Democrats, have abandoned free speech while the other party, the Republicans, have not, support for free speech is no longer bipartisan. Under the circumstances that would make sense considering the fact that the lawsuit was was brought by Republican state AGs. Not that Republicans have a perfect track record but they have not abandoned 1A altogether. But I suspect that neither Jacob or his masters can bring themselves to admit that the Democrats are the the real threat to liberty and the Republicans are actually defending it. Hence the awkward and clumsy attempt to blame both sides. I'm cool with the Rs being called the stupid party. Pretty accurate description. But Reason just can't admit that the Ds are the evil party which is an even more accurate description. I'll take stupid over evil at this point.
Yes a very tough subject, but, Biden has sworn to protect the country from ALL threats, both foreign AND domestic.
"Incitement to violence" IS a crime, regardless of "freedom-of-speech" principles.
And so what are we supposed to do, stand by while Putin/Hitler-types and their wannabees destroy the country with lies? Lies that we can SEE for a FACT are being taken as truth AND a reason to overthrow the government by gullible millions?
So cool you know who's lying and who isn't. It's like you're one of those idiot savants. Or just an idiot.
This outrageous decision terminates the First Amendment rights of anyone working in the government. Those who are covered by it should simply ignore it as an act of civil disobedience.
The government doesn't have 1st amendment rights and government employees acting in their official capacity are the government. In their free time they can spout whatever bullshit they want.
Exactly +100000.. So long as employees of the government act as being the code of law. The 1st Amendment SPECIFICALLY 'Congress shall make no law' call them out on not having free-law. It's all about restricting/limiting Gov-Gun usage against the citizens. After all it is "the peoples" law OVER their government.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Charlie thinks free speech applies to the gov, but it applies to those who are addressing the gov.
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COVID came from horseshoe bats. COVID did not come from a lab leak. You have to be put on a ventilator in order to save your life. Ivermectin is horse medicine and isn’t the protocol. If you’re vaccinated, you can’t spread the disease. If you’re vaccinated, you can’t catch the disease. Hydroxychloroquine is fish tank cleaner, it won’t help you. Two weeks to flatten the curve. We’ll be putting the infected in nursing homes for safe keeping. Thousands of restaurants will need to close, probably permanently. Restaurants where politicians and lobbyists meet will remain open. No more church services, sporting events, or family get-togethers, unless politicians are involved. BLM and Antifa gatherings can continue as planned. Birthday parties are super-spreaders, riots are not. It’s okay if your children end up 2 to 3 grades behind their age cohort. Wear a mask or two. It stops transmission. Let me know when I can stop, I have about 40 more unused lies. Everyone involved with this authoritarian Orwellian charade needs to be in prison, up to and including Fauci and his government enablers (Trump & Biden).
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