After 50 Years, the DEA Is Still Losing the War on Drugs
For five decades, the agency has destroyed countless lives while targeting Americans for personal choices and peaceful transactions.

"COCAINE UNIQUELY FITS THE FAST-PACED AMERICAN LIFESTYLE," reads a caption for an exhibit at the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) Museum in Arlington, Virginia. "The Federal Bureau of Narcotics considered cocaine a nearly defeated drug," it continues. "However, cocaine use rebounded, reaching its highest use level ever at the end of the 20th century." It's an oddly candid observation to find in a place you'd expect to celebrate the federal agency whose mission is to "enforce the controlled substances laws and regulations of the United States."
The DEA is celebrating its 50th anniversary this year, marking half a century of abject mission failure. During five decades as a bottomless money pit that has destroyed countless lives while targeting Americans for personal choices and peaceful transactions, the agency's annual budget has ballooned from $75 million to $3.2 billion. The DEA currently operates 90 foreign offices in 67 countries. It has seized billions of dollars in drugs, cash, vehicles, and real property. Since 1986, it has arrested more than 1 million people for manufacturing, distributing, or possessing illegal drugs. Yet in 2021, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) counted more than 107,600 drug-related deaths—an all-time high. The DEA's own data show a steady, gradual decline in price and rise in purity for most street drugs since the 1980s. The DEA's 2020 National Drug Threat Assessment notes that methamphetamine "purity and potency remain high while prices remain relatively low," and cocaine availability remains steady.
While there are some reasons to believe Americans may finally have tired of the DEA's oversized role in their lives, the agency remains a powerful force. To understand what went wrong—and why it will keep going wrong—you have to go back to the agency's origins.
'Public Enemy Number One'
On April 4, 1972, President Richard Nixon's drug war landed in Humboldt County, California. The DEA, which was established the following year, was still only a glimmer in Nixon's eye at this point. But its playbook was being written here, outside the backwoods cabin of 24-year-old Dirk Dickenson.
As a Huey helicopter touched down near the cabin, plainclothes law enforcement officers brandishing pistols and long guns leaped out. The chopper was accompanied by five police cars. There were 19 law enforcement agents in total, including the county dogcatcher. Two television cameramen and a newspaper photographer were in tow as well, lured by a deputy sheriff's promise of the biggest drug bust in county history. They were expecting to find a huge PCP lab guarded by gun-toting, long-haired freaks.
The officers were the tip of the spear in a new campaign. A year earlier, Nixon had declared drug abuse "America's public enemy number one" and vowed to "wage a new, all-out offensive" against it.
Dickenson and his girlfriend both initially wandered outside to gawk and wave at the helicopter landing on their property. Dickenson, like many other California hippies, had drifted into rugged Humboldt County to escape the bummers of city life. When they caught sight of the guns, Dickenson and his girlfriend realized this wasn't a friendly house call and rushed back inside.
Several things then happened very quickly, all under the deafening sound of the helicopter's rotors. The officers started breaking down the front door of the cabin. Dickenson ran out the back and bolted for the treeline. Several officers gave chase, but one of them stumbled and fell. Lloyd Clifton, a former Berkeley police officer and an agent of the federal government's 4-year-old Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs (BNDD), assumed his bumbling comrade had been shot. Clifton stopped, leveled his .38 revolver at the fleeing, unarmed hippie, and shot Dickenson in the back while TV cameras rolled.
Dickenson died from massive internal bleeding while waiting to be evacuated to the hospital. Police found personal-use amounts of marijuana, hashish, peyote buttons, and LSD in Dickenson's cabin, but no giant drug lab. A judge later dismissed charges of second-degree murder and involuntary manslaughter against Clifton, the first federal drug agent to be charged with homicide.
The BNDD was the precursor to the DEA, created as part of a plan to consolidate federal drug enforcement—then split among several agencies and departments—under one umbrella agency and massively increase its funding. At its founding in 1968, the BNDD had 615 agents and a $14 million budget. Its early efforts were focused on three sources of drugs consumed by Americans: marijuana pouring in from Mexico, heroin smuggled from France, and domestically manufactured LSD. The lead agent in the Dickenson raid had previously arrested Owsley Stanley, the Grateful Dead's soundman and one of the biggest acid cooks in the country.
In 1973, the DEA was formally created by a reorganizational plan that Congress approved, absorbing the BNDD and several other federal agencies. Its beginnings were not auspicious. The agency's leadership was hamstrung by backbiting and accusations of corruption, and its on-the-ground operations were dogged by incompetence.
A 1973 New York Times investigation found a string of botched drug raids by BNDD task forces, soon to be the backbone of the DEA, across the country. "Such incidents have resulted in at least four deaths, including one policeman slain when a terror stricken innocent woman shot through her bedroom door as it burst open," the Times reported. "In California one innocent father was shot through the head as he sat in a living room cradling his infant son."
A Rolling Stone editor, Joe Eszterhas, spent two years investigating federal drug enforcement, including the Dickenson raid, and concluded these narcotics agents weren't police officers, whom he had some respect for. They were "deputized gangsters," he wrote in his book Nark!
That was the public perception as well. The DEA's first director, John R. Bartels Jr., complained the American people did not know what the agency really did and regarded its agents "as corrupt Nazis who don't know how to open the door except with the heel of their right foot." (Dirk Dickenson was unavailable for comment.)
But instead of being shelved as an unpopular mistake, those early joint task forces became the blueprint for how domestic drug enforcement is still carried out today. Congress passed new laws, and courts hacked away at the Fourth Amendment to accommodate the drug war and shield officers from liability, allowing the raids to continue unimpeded and largely out of public view.
The DEA Museum does not mention any of the botched raids that figured prominently in the agency's early history, although it does display a .38 revolver like the one that killed Dickenson. The gun looks old-timey and quaint next to the displays of submachine guns and shotguns that DEA agents would soon be armed with.
Doubling Down on a Failed Strategy
Federal marijuana enforcement in the 1970s was a failure by every objective measure. It did not put a dent in the U.S. marijuana supply, despite several busts of massive grow operations. In 1979, for example, a DEA/FBI task force busted Miami's "Black Tuna Gang," which smuggled more than 500 tons of pot into the country over a 16-month period. Yet "by the 1980s," an official DEA history notes without further reflection, "more than 60 percent of American teenagers had experimented with marijuana and 40 percent became regular users. Supply also continued to increase."
The Reagan administration's solution was to double down. In April 1981, presidential adviser (and future attorney general) Edwin Meese announcedto a room of 250 prosecutors that the administration would mount "a more massive and extensive" campaign against drug trafficking than ever before attempted.
In 1985, another helicopter landed in Humboldt County, this time outside the home of Judy Rolicheck and her family. The air power was part of the Campaign Against Marijuana Planting, a task force of federal, state, and local law enforcement officers that used helicopters—and even U-2 spy planes—to surveil Northern California for outdoor marijuana grows. After the helicopter landed, around 25 task force members held the Rolichecks at gunpoint for two and a half hours and shot their dog. There was a marijuana grow about 600 yards away, out of sight of the house, but the Rolichecks had nothing to do with it. The agents left, and the family was never charged with a crime.
A lawsuit filed that year by the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws (NORML) on behalf of numerous Humboldt County residents, including Rolicheck, alleged they were being harassed by the low-flying helicopters and that the agents were ransacking their houses and seizing property without warrants. The U.S. Supreme Court would later rule, in a 1989 case involving marijuana, that police could use aircraft to perform warrantless searches of backyards.
This was the beefed-up war on drugs. The DEA was in an arms race against sophisticated cartels and smuggling operations inundating the country with cocaine and marijuana, and the reality on the streets was far messier than the pastel-draped heroics of Miami Vice.
Legendary Miami Herald crime reporter Edna Buchanan described an incident in which a DEA informant who made money on the side by robbing drug dealers ripped off two undercover DEA agents by mistake. The agents responded by initiating a running gun battle down a South Miami street. The informant escaped but turned himself in the next day after reading a newspaper article that explained who his robbery victims were. Since he was a good informant, the feds accepted a heartfelt apology and the return of the stolen cash in lieu of prosecuting him.
During the 1980s, the DEA's powers continued to expand while oversight of its widespread domestic and foreign operations was minimal. In a 1986 cover story for Reason, Dale Gieringer investigated the slimy underworld of the DEA and its confidential informant program, warning that "the DEA has become a law unto itself, an agency out of control." Gieringer described illegal extraditions, abusive searches and seizures, and suspects who were beaten by foreign law enforcement officers at the order of DEA agents.
"Under the aegis of President Ronald Reagan and Attorney General Edwin Meese, the DEA has pursued increasingly aggressive and unscrupulous tactics of entrapment, seizure, surveillance, and paramilitary violence," Gieringer wrote. "Thanks to public antidrug hysteria, a compliant Congress, an uncritical press, and a court system increasingly dominated by Reaganite judges, the DEA has enjoyed virtual carte blanche to trample on individuals' rights."
The Comprehensive Crime Control Act of 1984 strengthened the DEA's influence by expanding civil asset forfeiture, which allows police to seize property allegedly related to criminal activity. The law allowed the federal government to share up to 80 percent of forfeiture revenue with state and local police, creating a strong financial incentive for departments to work with federal task forces and redirect resources to drug enforcement.
In places like Humboldt County, entrepreneurial innovation once again triumphed. The DEA's official history brags that the marijuana eradication campaigns of the 1980s and early '90s "put so much pressure on growers that many abandoned their outdoor cultivation on public and private land for the safety of indoor cultivation." But it adds that "indoor cultivated marijuana created new concerns for law enforcement; it was of such high quality and potency that American marijuana became the most sought-after cannabis in the world."
Tough on Crime
In a televised 1989 speech, President George H.W. Bush announced yet another escalation of the war on drugs while waving a plastic baggie of crack purchased from a dealer whom DEA agents had lured to "a park just across the street from the White House." The dealer got almost a decade in prison, and Bush got his prop. Describing illegal drug use as "the gravest domestic threat facing our nation," he said "we won't have safe neighborhoods unless we are tough on drug criminals—much tougher than we are now."
Tapped to deliver the Democratic Party's response, then-Sen. Joe Biden (D–Del.) complained that Bush was not tough enough. "The president said he wants to wage a war on drugs," Biden said. "But if that's true, what we need is another D-Day, not another Vietnam; not another limited war fought on the cheap and destined for stalemate and human tragedy."
Democrats and Republicans ensured the drug war was not cheap, but the human tragedies continued. During the next two decades, tough-on-crime bills pushed by Biden and like-minded legislators bore their rotten fruit. The total incarcerated population in the United States skyrocketed from roughly 500,000 in 1980 to more than 2.3 million at its peak in 2008.
Drug crimes were not the primary driver of mass incarceration; violent offenses were. But in the federal prison system, about half of all inmates were serving sentences for drug offenses, and they still account for roughly the same share.
Mandatory minimum sentencing laws led to draconian penalties, especially for crack cocaine offenses. Thousands of crack cocaine offenders received federal prison sentences substantially longer than what they would have received for an equivalent cocaine powder violation.
In 1998, for example, Jason Hernandez, then 21, was sentenced to life in federal prison plus 320 years for conspiracy to distribute crack cocaine. President Barack Obama commuted his sentence in 2013. "The person who supplied me [with cocaine] ended up getting 12 years," Hernandez told me in 2016. "I got life because I converted it to crack cocaine. I deserved to go to jail. I deserved to go to jail for a long time, but I didn't deserve to die in there."
The war on drugs also consistently produced racially disparate results. In fiscal year 2020, the U.S. Sentencing Commission reports, 77 percent of federal defendants sentenced for crack trafficking were black, while 16 percent were Hispanic and 6 percent were white. In 2019, The Washington Post reported that none of the 179 defendants arrested in DEA "reverse-sting" cases during the previous decade in the Southern District of New York were white.
Meanwhile, the DEA's response to the "opioid crisis" offered a stunning example of drug enforcement's perverse effects. The DEA, working with local and state police, started monitoring doctors and cracking down on those suspected of running "pill mills." The threat of prosecution, combined with restrictions imposed or encouraged by regulators, legislators, and the CDC, drove opioid prescriptions down. But those efforts had the opposite effect on opioid-related deaths, which not only continued to rise but rose at an accelerated rate.
When local pain clinics were shut down or scared away and anxious doctors began eschewing opioid prescriptions, not only addicts but people with legitimate chronic pain issues were left to suffer—or turn to black market alternatives that were much more dangerous because their composition was highly variable and unpredictable. The DEA Museum obliquely acknowledges the unintended but predictable consequences: "Following a crackdown on overprescribing, users turned to heroin. Overdose deaths increased rapidly."
The hazards of black market drugs were magnified by the rise of illicit fentanyl as a heroin booster and substitute, which made potency even harder to predict. Heroin-related deaths quintupled between 2010 and 2016. That number has fallen since then. But for the category of opioids that includes fentanyl and its analogs, deaths rose more than twentyfold between 2013 and 2021. As Reason's Jacob Sullum argued, the DEA's enforcement efforts were not only futile; they were "remarkably effective at making drug use deadlier."
An exhibit just outside the DEA Museum is called "Faces of Fentanyl." Displayed on the walls are thousands of pictures of people who died from fentanyl poisoning, all contributed by family members. The oldest person on the wall is 70. The youngest is 17 months old. The display is sobering but also infuriating given the policy failures that led to its creation.
Stories That Never Add Up
In addition to making drug use deadlier, the DEA makes air travel perilous by robbing passengers who dare to carry large amounts of cash. Stacy Jones became one of those victims when a Transportation Security Administration (TSA) screener stopped her at the Wilmington, Delaware, airport in May 2020.
Jones was not very worried at first. She and her husband were returning to their home in Tampa after a casino trip. They had $43,000 in cash in a carry-on bag, which the TSA screener found alarming.
Even after the screener called over a sheriff's deputy, who started to ask about the source of the cash, Jones remained confident that everything would be sorted out. She knew the law, or she thought she did. She knew it was perfectly legal to fly domestically with large amounts of cash. "We're gamblers," Jones says. "We've hit jackpots, and we've traveled with money. So we've never, ever thought that this could happen. Never."
They had a solid explanation: They said they had flown to North Carolina for a casino reopening. They had dinner with friends, who were interested in buying a Maserati that Jones' husband owned. The friends paid for the car in cash. Because of a sudden death in the family, Jones and her husband never made it to the casino. They booked a last-minute flight home. Jones put the money from the car sale, along with cash she had for gambling, in the carry-on bag and headed for the airport.
It was when the deputy called in two DEA agents that Jones got concerned. "When the DEA walked in, it felt serious at that point," she says.
In the interrogation room with the two DEA agents, the pressure on Jones ratcheted up. They made Jones and her husband go over the story again—casino, car purchase, vacation cut short. They brought in drug-sniffing dogs. A DEA agent followed Jones into the bathroom and stood outside the stall. She felt like a criminal, even though she knew she wasn't."
I was shaking, crying, panicking, worried about my job, worried about the money, worried if they were going to take us to jail," Jones says. "The humiliation of that—it's a helpless feeling."
The DEA agents decided the couple's story did not add up. They announced that they were seizing the cash based on suspicion it was drug money. After taking all of the cash the couple had, except for $500 in a bank envelope, they released Jones and her husband to catch their flight home without a receipt or any other paperwork.
Thanks to the laws passed in the 1980s, DEA agents did not need to charge Jones with a crime to seize her money. They simply needed probable cause to believe the money was connected to illegal activity, a judgment that in practice may amount to nothing more than a hunch.
"They just tell you your story doesn't add up," Jones says. "And then they take your money and make you fight for it."
After the couple got home, Jones started researching what had happened to them. She had never heard of civil asset forfeiture before. She quickly discovered she was not alone.
A 2016 USA Today investigation found the DEA, working with local police departments, had seized more than $209 million from at least 5,200 travelers at 15 major airports during the previous decade. The newspaper reported the DEA regularly snoops on travel records and maintains a network of confidential informants in the travel industry.
That was just a partial survey. According to a 2017 report from the Justice Department's Office of the Inspector General, the DEA had seized more than $4 billion in cash from people suspected of drug activity during the previous decade. More than three-quarters of that sum—$3.2 billion—was seized from people who, like Jones and her husband, were never charged with a crime.
Although Jones was not prosecuted, she was suspended from her job at Delta Air Lines during the ordeal. After a few months, she was forced to resign until she could clear her name.
When an owner tries to recover property seized by the DEA, the government is supposed to prove a criminal nexus by "a preponderance of the evidence," meaning it is more likely than not that the property is connected to illegal activity. Federal law allows an "innocent owner" defense, which requires a claimant to prove by a preponderance of the evidence that he either did not know about any illegal activity or did all he reasonably could to stop it.
Since this is a civil process, however, property owners are not entitled to an attorney. They bear the cost of challenging a forfeiture action and proving their innocence. When Jones called a local attorney the day after the seizure in Delaware, he told her it would cost too much and advised her to just let the money go.
Fortunately for Jones, her research showed that many victims of the DEA's airport seizures were fighting back with help from the Institute for Justice, a libertarian public interest law firm that combats forfeiture abuse. In July 2020, Jones joined a class action lawsuit the Institute for Justice had filed against the TSA and the DEA. The lawsuit contends the DEA has a policy or practice of presumptively seizing cash in amounts of $5,000 or more from travelers at airports, "regardless of whether there is probable cause for the seizure." That practice, the complaint says, violates the Fourth Amendment's prohibition of unreasonable searches and seizures.
On November 13, 2020, the U.S. government agreed to return the money the DEA had taken from Jones and her husband. Although Jones was rehired by Delta, the couple never received an apology from the DEA. But why would they? The DEA is only doing what presidential administrations have ordered it to do, and what courts have emboldened it to do for 50 years: fight a pointless, wasteful war that sacrifices the rights of innocent Americans.
Foreign Affairs
While all of this has been going on domestically, the DEA's foreign operations have drawn more scrutiny, for understandable reasons. The history of those efforts is littered with headline-grabbing scandals.
In 1985, drug traffickers abducted and murdered DEA Special Agent Enrique Camarena in Mexico. It was a pivotal moment in DEA history, impelling the agency to focus on transnational cartels. Since then, the DEA's foreign operations have generated some of its greatest successes: the killing of Colombian drug lord Pablo Escobar in 1993 with the assistance of DEA technology and manpower, the dismantling of the Cali Cartel, and the interdiction of vast quantities of cocaine and other drugs.
But the massive amount of money flowing through the drug trade makes these foreign posts prone to bribery and corruption. During the last decade, DEA offices in Mexico, Honduras, Colombia, and Haiti have all been plagued by accusations of serious misconduct.
A 2015 report from the Justice Department's inspector general revealed that at least 10 DEA agents stationed in Colombia had sex parties with prostitutes hired by cartels. Two years later, another inspector general report concluded the DEA had lied to the public, Congress, and the Justice Department about a 2012 incident in which DEA advisers ordered a Honduran law enforcement helicopter to open fire on a water taxi full of civilians, killing four people, including two women and a 14-year-old boy. Although the DEA insisted someone on the boat had fired on them first, video evidence strongly suggested otherwise.
More recently, a veteran DEA agent, José Irizarry, was sentenced to 12 years in federal prison for conspiring to launder a Colombian cartel's money. But before he went to prison in 2022, Irizarry decided to take everyone else down with him. In a series of interviews with the Associated Press (A.P.), he accused dozens of his colleagues of skimming millions of dollars to fund extravagant lifestyles and debauchery across three continents.
"We had free access to do whatever we wanted," Irizarry told the A.P. "We would generate money pick-ups in places we wanted to go. And once we got there, it was about drinking and girls."
Irizarry repeated the harshest criticisms of the international war on drugs, but this time from the perspective of someone on the inside. "You can't win an unwinnable war," he said. "DEA knows this, and the agents know this….There's so much dope leaving Colombia. And there's so much money. We know we're not making a difference."
In March, the DEA released a review of its foreign operations, initiated in the wake of the Irizarry scandal. While the report makes several recommendations for improving oversight of the agency's foreign posts, the fundamental problem with the DEA's mission to disrupt international drug trafficking can't be fixed: Everyone knows what the score is.
"The drug war is a game," Irizarry observed. "It was a very fun game that we were playing."
The DEA Belongs in a Museum
The DEA Museum takes up a couple of large rooms on the first floor of the agency's headquarters. It's a muted, occasionally amusing collection. Among the exhibits are several issues of High Times, a Homer Simpson bong, a copy of Allen Ginsberg's Howl and Other Poems, a "life mask" of Pablo Escobar donated by the Colombian National Police, and the Versace-branded, diamond-studded guns of the notorious cartel boss Joaquín "El Chapo" Guzmán.
To its credit, the DEA Museum is professional and, if not critical, at least somewhat realistic about the game of whack-a-mole the agency has been playing for the last 50 years. The museum does not ignore marijuana legalization, and it alludes to the disastrous impact of the DEA's crackdown on prescription opioids. But there's always the weight of hanging questions and things left unsaid. Visiting the museum is an exercise in ironic distance; it's a place that public opinion is leaving behind.
In May, Minnesota became the 23rd state to legalize recreational marijuana. A 2022 Pew Survey found that 88 percent of U.S. adults say marijuana should be legal for either medical or recreational use. According to Gallup, two-thirds of Americans favor the latter policy.
In 2020, Oregon became the first state to decriminalize simple possession of all drugs. Another Oregon ballot initiative approved that year authorized the use of psilocybin at state-licensed "service centers." Last year Colorado voters went further by eliminating criminal penalties for noncommercial production, possession, and distribution of five naturally occurring psychedelics. Several cities have taken more modest steps in the same direction.
The DEA continues to dump sand in the gears of legalization where it can. But as the gulf between public opinion and federal drug policy widens, the agency's duties seem increasingly farcical. Five decades should be long enough to admit we've made a terrible mistake and relegate the DEA to a museum.
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There’s a lot of money to be made by the judicial and law enforcement industrial complex by continuing the drug war. Though drug-using family members of connected politicians don’t need to be biden their time until they’re caught and punished seeing as they are exempt from such unpleasantries.
What about the coke found at the Whitehouse library?
I didn’t even know that Zelensky recently visited Biden.
Zelly had a meeting with Hunter.
A crack down is coming.
Only if those that know the truth pipe up.
One must follow the truth, like a bright white line.
The war on drugs is a scam, designed to maintain the high prices of the drugs, thereby assuring American drug lords make a huge fortune. Only the poor and street level pushers are thrown in jail and those are usually the ones who don't pay bribes to cops, judges and politicians, thereby underselling the drug dealers who do pay the bribes. You don't see cops raiding high class neighborhoods, movie and music studios, or wall street where they are all geeked up on crack cocaine. Franklin Roosevelt's father and John Jacob Astor made their fortunes by selling opium to China. The US drug lords are most likely upper crust "respectable" families.
From the Libertarian Party Platform.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9478Uqe7co&feature=youtu.be
We call for the repeal of all laws establishing criminal or civil penalties for the use of drugs and of "anti-crime" measures restricting individual rights to be secure in our persons, homes, and property; limiting our rights to keep and bear arms; or vote.
Truly A Libertarian Paradise.
Singapore seems to be doing pretty good with their war on drugs. Perhaps the war on drugs is not about stopping drug use, but more about creating more unelected, Un accountable goverment comnisars to push toralitarianism
Perhaps the war on drugs is not about stopping drug use, but more about creating more unelected, Un accountable goverment comnisars to push toralitarianism
Or there's this explanation from John Erlichman: "The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."
Is that why Nixon expanded welfare? Because he hated blacks?
When you quote retards you look retarded
I mean- it's a direct quote.
Are you that fucking stupid?
Besides that, who is saying welfare is for black people? You ever been to small town America? Shit ton of people on welfare and a hell of a lot of them aren't black.
This sounds like some racist prejudice from you more than anything.
When you quote retards you look retarded
A simultaneously glib and ignorant remark.
Do you even know who Ehrlichman was?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ehrlichman
Some additional context regarding SRG's "direct quote"
From his link:
"Multiple family members of Ehrlichman (who died in 1999) challenge the veracity of the quote:
The 1994 alleged 'quote' we saw repeated in social media for the first time today does not square with what we know of our father...We do not subscribe to the alleged racist point of view that this writer now implies 22 years following the so-called interview of John and 16 years following our father's death, when dad can no longer respond."
So it's a direct quote... a disputed one that was produced 22 years after the interview took place.
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Indeed the quote is disputed. But that doesn't mean it's not true, it's consistent with the actors involved - Nixon, Atwater, etc, and with the actions taken when you consider who was on the receiving end of WoD.
Thank you, Mr. Rather.
The quote's not true.. The "journalist" made it up years later.
That is the allegation.
The quote itself is an allegation (not the response), mainly because it was never printed and was many years after the death of the person in question. However, that quote does not fit with anything known of the person publicly throughout their career, so on its face is false.
The response is in fact just that. Specifically, unless there are multiple people that this was said to as witnesses at this point it is obviously a fraudulent statement designed to destroy reputations.
If you weren’t so dishonest you would have noted it was disputed when you first posted it, shrike.
TBH I couldn't be bothered to post a link. So laziness rather than dishonesty. But as I said, "But that doesn’t mean it’s not true, it’s consistent with the actors involved – Nixon, Atwater, etc, and with the actions taken when you consider who was on the receiving end of WoD."
What evidence is there of actions taken early in the WoD that are inconsistent with the Ehrlichman quote?
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Lol. The rev cuck starts the thread condemning the government parasites that pursue the drug war, and SRG and raspy rush in to make it about race. Even using a disputed quote to virtue signal.
Too funny. And pathetic.
"I opted for convenience."
The CIA was heavily involved in the distribution of LSD. Hell, they probably hired some one to produce it.
I also have no doubt what so ever that Erlichman made that statement.
The entire Nixon regime was mentally unstable.
Halderman, Erlichman, Mitchell and Dean
It follows a pattern if you dig what I mean.....
Singapore "works" only because the population of the tiny place is self-selected.
So not diversity is their strength?
And it operates in ways that would be regarded as highly unconstitutional here.
Actually, SG is extremely diverse. Operates on English law. And frankly has people that agree with most of the laws that are given because they understand that SG is more of a melting pot than the USA and has different problems. One of this problems is cultural interaction, another is having ZERO RESOURCES, including WATER and POWER as well as no agricultural base.
Stop stomping on a country that is one of the wealthiest in the world, one of the most peaceful and has very low drug issues (if any) and has ZERO resources and is making themselves a world known force of commerce.
They also have a CONSTITUTION and they actually hold their citizens rights higher than any authority in the USA holds US citizen rights. Citizens there give up things we would never give up, in order to have what they get in return.
the agency's annual budget has ballooned from $75 million to $3.2 billion
Sounds to me like the War On Drugs is going almost as swimmingly as the War On Poverty.
The war on climate change
Victoria Nuland did win her war against anorexia.
TL:DR. The problem is intractable, and details like the presence or absence of DEA (i.e. whether its functions are carried out by other agencies) are minuscule. The problem is that drug control is by now axiomatic, as accepted as the law of gravity. It's simply assumed that there's a phenomenon called "substance abuse" which deserves countermeasures against individuals' desires, and that individuals are incompetent to decide on the great majority of medical treatments to get for themselves. The only questions are what counts as a drug, which drugs individuals are competent to decide on taking, and what constitutes a phenomenon called "addiction" that results in "abuse".
It seems the only progress we can make in this area is by getting wider acceptance of certain drugs as OK (or, especially, good), which will probably be accompanied by some fraction of them becoming mandatory, or at least funded by mandatory plans. Which means we have to get more people "abusing" particular drugs until the "abuse" is so widespread as to no longer be considered "abuse". But any drug whose popularity slips enough is in danger of having its use recategorized as "abuse" and banned.
The only method I foresee of attacking this state of affairs would be a blunt instrument indeed: radical skepticism, to the point of distrusting all health-related expertise. This would destroy the medical profession, as people would doubt that doctors could ever give them good advice. But it would still be easier for radical skepticism to spread than would radical libertarianism.
Oh, so your response is that if we can not stop it, then make it legal.
The issue is that in the USA the entire justice system is not designed for justice at all, it is a mega-industry. Trillions of dollars go into it every year. From police to prosecutors, attorneys to courts, and from probation departments to even PRIVATE prisons operating outside the jurisdictions of the state! It is MONEY ONLY.
No one wants to stop drugs, that ends tens of thousands of attorney's income, it stops prosecutors from being needed. It ends the supply chain fro all jails and prisons right down to phone service and cantina service. No this is about $$$$$ not about public safety.
I'm surprised any of the regulars even looked at the article being that the author has been critical of both Trump and DeSantis which makes her a hardcore leftist as far as those cement-heads are concerned.
The War on Drugs is the guaranteed assurance of our Orwellian future. Even if we finally defeat Eastasia, the government will always have the War on Drugs as an excuse to control people's lives. Since drug use is as old as the human race, the Forever War is assured.
"Since drug use is as old as the human race, the Forever War is assured."
Nope. Humans have existed for about 300,000 years. Alcohol consumption began only 10k years ago. Poppies/opium use began 7k years ago. Cannabis consumption started only 5k years ago. So it wasn't until agriculture and civilization that humans began abusing substances. So for 96% of human history, homo sapiens were drug free.
I disagree. 300,000 years ago, folks were hunter-gatherers. Without the FDA, how did they determine what effect a particular plant would have on them? By random tasting, of course. If a plant tasted good and didn't make one ill or kill them, such information about "good to eat" plants was shared with others. Also true of "bad" plants.
It follows logically, that, if one found a plant, say coca, or opium poppies, or marijuana, nightshade, gypsum weed, an untold number of mushrooms, and an untold number of other plants (the list is REALLY LONG) which can make one feel "good," such information would likewise be shared.
I think my argument is sound.
Actually, that's "Jimson Weed."
"such information would likewise be shared"
Before writing and civilization, the sharing of information would be highly localized and the movement of substances from their points of origin, such as cannabis from central Asia, would be extremely slow. It is not until agriculture and civilization, which represents only a fraction of human history, that widespread use of addictive substances would take root.
The problem is that, as far as I can tell, there isn't a SINGLE place in the world, excepting perhaps the arctics, where things which we term "drugs" don't grow naturally. And, every time the human race expanded its range, it was greeted by all kinds of new plants which needed to be, well, tested.]
It is true that agriculture certainly increased the use of plant-based drugs. It is also true that agriculture, even small-scale, was responsible for the increase in the abundance of all kinds of foodstuffs.
However, the hunter-gatherers who first crossed the Bering Strait land bridge soon discovered, besides the predecessor of corn, some other really cool stuff, including peyote, tobacco, coca, magic mushrooms, Morning Glory seeds, Salvia Divinorum, and Ayahuasca.
And, anything which makes one "feel good" has trade value. Why would an enterprising Native American trade his stash of 'shrooms for some maize (even if the "elders" frowned upon it.)
So, born was the drug trade.
Yeah, I was there and remember that. Plus there are so many reliable historical records for prehistory.
There are many reliable records from prehistory. What do you think archaeology is all about, Skippy?
"In 2020, Oregon became the first state to decriminalize simple possession of all drugs."
Meet me in Portland for a tour of downtown. We'll smell the aroma of burning Fentanyl outside City Hall. We'll see homeless (sorry..."unhoused") shooting heroin on Morrison Avenue in broad daylight. We'll sidestep human excrement on our journey through Old Town. We'll observe drug-induced psychosis in people shouting at shadows and throwing rocks at passing cars on Burnside. It truly is a libertine paradise!
Decriminalizing simple possession of all drugs doesn't necessarily mean letting people do whatever the hell they want wherever the hell they want.
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The consumption and possession of alcohol, by those over 21 y/o, is perfectly legal most places one finds oneself.
It is "decriminalized,"
That doesn't mean that being "drunk and disorderly" won't land one in the pokey. Likewise while driving, etc., etc.
Alcohol is not "decriminalized." It's legalized. There's a huge difference.
"'Alcohol is not “decriminalized.” It’s legalized. There’s a huge difference."'
Really??????
It does in Oregon, which Reason touts as a success in decriminalization.
I agree that possession of drugs should be decriminalized--on one's own private property. Once those drugs (or intoxicated people) leave their private property, that's where the issues begin. As long as there are commons, there will be tragedy of the commons, in this case, unfettered use of drugs.
“drunk and disorderly” used to be a thing. If it isn't anymore, especially disorderly, that's where the problem lies. I wholeheartedly agree that there is such a thing as the tragedy of the commons, but rules can be, and usually are put in place for the use of public spaces. No shitting on the sidewalk could be one such rule. No pumping Drano into your veins on a park bench could be another.
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Great comment, and I completely agree. Unfortunately, Portland's people and politicians think the rules you've proposed are racist.
"I wholeheartedly agree that there is such a thing as the tragedy of the commons, but rules can be, and usually are put in place for the use of public spaces."
Absolutely.
Even during prohibition, the possession and consumption of alcohol was not illegal -- it was the manufacturing, transportation, and sale, which were illegal. Lot of drugs don't need to be "manufactured," or even transported beyond one's backyard.
Portland is a shining example of a liberal run city.
As in the Shining Path...
After five decades of a war on drugs, it’s obvious the government and its DEA are losing. Last year nearly one hundred & ten thousand people died from over doses, mostly from fentanyl but the latest crop to show up in the past year is from the presence of an animal tranquilizer, Xylazine which is even more powerful than fent. Anyone using street drugs is now playing Russian roulette. The DEA needs to be de funded and disbanded.
and it will NEVER change.
one hundred & ten thousand people died from over doses...really? you counted?
You do not know that as being a fact or even close to true which I seriously doubt is. Stop spewing govt shit out your pie hole. Tell me the process of making crack cocaine and include how you get fentanyl to join up with the crack in your chemistry experiment as has been alleged over and over.Those who never used drugs and those that use too much always seem to be the experts but they are not.
The problem is we are between a rock and a hard place. "Hard" drugs like meth, cocaine, heroin, fentanyl cause real damage to people, families and communities. If you legalize it all, do whatever you want with your own body, the costs of drug addiction will still be on the public at large. The same violent people making and selling drugs today (Mexican cartels, Chinese OC, etc) will be the same violent people making drugs tomorrow, unless you intend on massive domestic production of these drugs (Meth by Pfizer?). What is the solution?
Oh grow up. You sound like a sixties govt film for 6th graders. Profiting from drug sales are the police and the court system. The drug "cartels" you hear about are nothing but distractions from the govt you love being the profiteers. I like your little "hard" drug in quotes. Lets us all know you are mister serious trained by govt filmstrips.
Come back when you real info for us.
Read the Constitution. There's not one word in it giving the federal government the power to dictate what we ingest, inject, or inhale into our own bodies. The DEA is unconstitutional and should be abolished, along with all federal drug laws.
Further, the same lack of constitutionality applies to the FDA. They should be reduced to being no more than an advisory organisation.
I'm 66, live in Canada and have a nice stash of high quality, professionally tested LSD, Psilocybin, MDMA, DMT and Ketamine. Plus a big bag of $75 per ounce, fully legal, store bought, Pineapple Express. I keep them in my lovely home where I live a healthy life and partake responsibly. Fuck the Drug War and the sick fucks who still support it!
Watch Reefer Madness, a government public service announcement movie and you will understand why the government is losing: Reefer Madness
Reefer Madness is a 1936 American propaganda film about drugs, revolving around the melodramatic events that ensue when high school students are lured by pushers to try marijuana – upon trying it, they become addicted, eventually leading them to become involved in various crimes such as a hit and run accident, manslaughter, murder, conspiracy to murder and attempted rape.
Even in 1936 no one believed the governments silly propaganda. All lies, and once you lie, forget it.
Reefer Madness was not a government public service announcement movie.
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Law enforcement never wins wars against crime. It never has, & it never will. The most law enforcement can do is control the levels of it.
Why doesn’t some write an article entitled, “America has lost the war on robberies?” And if they did, would anyone support having law enforcement stop trying to stop robberies?
So, those that talk about losing the war on drugs aren’t being honest. Efforts to enforce our drug laws keep the distribution & use of drugs at a certain level. Increase the law enforcement efforts & the level will lower. Reduce the law enforcement efforts & the level will rise.
Just say no!
Law enforcement never wins wars against crime. It never has, & it never will. The most law enforcement can do is control the levels of it.
Why doesn't some write an article entitled, "America has lost the war on robberies?" And if they did, would anyone support having law enforcement stop trying to stop robberies?
So, those that talk about winning the war on drugs aren't being honest. Efforts to enforce our drug laws keep the distribution & use of drugs at a certain level. Increase the law enforcement efforts & the level will lower. Reduce the law enforcement efforts & the level will rise.
The best way to reduce drug distribution & use in America is to secure our southern border.
If you do not like drug use then stop doing it. If you love your cash leave it at home when you travel. If you want police to stop drugs on the street then tell them to make their drug busts when a dealer has a fresh supply to sell, don't wait for most of it to be sold before the arrest. Police then only have to seize cash, cars, houses etc. The drugs are spread out throughout the city and the cash goes to the police who spend it wisely! (and become de facto drug dealers, crime does pay)
I notice yet again no mention of alcohol which is usually the trigger that causes heroin death but it is legal and taxable. Govt gets about $6 billion a year in booze tax. It is the most dangerous drug there is. Other drugs can cause feeling good or bullet holes.
America does not win wars anymore and I predict it never will again.
With far more deaths from drugs than guns. why does government fixate on guns as the problem? Ok I have my jab in on the wrong direction (intentional) from guns. To address the drug problem. Why does the government try to regulate the legal use of drugs?
Because it is easier to do and gives the appearance that they are doing something. It is far easier to go after grandma than a known drug dealer. After all, she can’t run very fast anyway. So what is the answer?
Remove the customer!. They can’t survive without people buying the product. To solve this we must provide the customer with free drugs.
providing hospitals that an addict can check into and get what they want. So what is the catch? they sign an agreement that says they can leave only when they are clean and free of drugs.
Where do we get the drugs to supply the addicts? From the drugs seized at the borders and other sites, they are acquired. They are cleaned up to remove harmful substances (other than the drugs themselves) and given to the patients as needed. They would be required to go to evaluation sessions to be asked if they want to get clean. if not then they are returned and fed and clothed and a bed provided and kept safe from themselves and others. Until they die.
What benefit does this provide other than removing the user? Court costs to start. removing these people removes much of the theft they use to buy drugs. it frees up the cops that can use their time to fight other crimes like politicians.
Murders that are committed in robberies are another benefit that saves lives. In 2021 we had 107 plus thousand drug-related deaths. These is government facts. With this many we are talking billions of dollars.
with hospitalization of these addicts, part of that money could go to the hospitals to support the program. The problem that must be addressed is the one that always occurs. opportunity to make money. creating another deep pocket from the government isn’t the answer. The program must be well-regulated.
Regulators that are elected not appointed is one or part of the solution. Penalties for the abuse of the funds for the addicted must be set and the managers will know what they are if convicted.
As with any government programs they are usually poorly run and wasteful. To prevent this having a citizens court that I suggested many times that will investigate and indite any involved, appointed or elected could be removed while investigations are ongoing.
The goal will be to remove the profits from the cartels. Removing the ability to purchase a politician. An area that a people’s court would also be useful.
This program would not only provide a life-saving service. offering the user a way to get clean. Also a path for parents or siblings wanting to save a loved one the chance by covering treatments with insurance or other funding.
Again the chance for abuse and use of a program to line their pockets from the deep pockets of insurance or a government that must be under constant view. and accountability.
The addict now has a choice to risk jail time by committing a crime or checking into a clinic to get treatment and other care that street life provides. removing another customer makes the dealer push to replace them. exposing them to law enforcement that is used to deal with the user’s small crimes along with the deaths caused by desperate addicts that must have their fix.
With the right organization, it could work. What we don’t want is a for-profit organization to run it. I would have an organization like the salvation army run the program. Opinions? I would like others’ views and criticisms. ——— I, Grampa
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