Bombing Mexican Cartels Won't Stop Fentanyl
A Republican-sponsored resolution would authorize the president to "use all necessary and appropriate force" against foreigners involved in fentanyl trafficking.

Americans continue to overdose on illicit fentanyl despite increased seizures of the drug coming north from Mexico. Several prominent Republicans are suggesting that the U.S. respond with wartime tools such as airstrikes and troop deployments. But combining the war on drugs with the war on terror is a surefire recipe for costly engagement abroad and little progress in reducing fentanyl-related harm at home.
During his presidency, The New York Times reported last year, Donald Trump expressed interest in using missiles to attack Mexican drug cartels and destroy their labs. Reps. Mike Waltz (R–Fla.) and Dan Crenshaw (R–Texas) helped revive that idea in January, when they introduced a joint resolution that would authorize the president to "use all necessary and appropriate force" against "foreign nations, foreign organizations, or foreign persons" involved in fentanyl production or trafficking.
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R–S.C.) argues that the military should "go after these organizations wherever they exist." Several GOP presidential hopefuls, including former United Nations Ambassador Nikki Haley and entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy, have echoed that sentiment.
There is little reason to believe these strikes would be as precise or effective as proponents claim. "Even a campaign of air strikes against cartels could easily escalate," says Benjamin H. Friedman, policy director at Defense Priorities. "Cartels could retaliate," he notes, and "strikes are bound to fail to affect fentanyl shipments, let alone meaningfully damage cartels."
Mexico hawks like Waltz say the U.S. has "done this before," citing Plan Colombia, a Clinton-era counternarcotics and counterterrorism initiative. But "claiming that Plan Colombia was a success is just plain false," says Javier Osorio, a professor of political science at the University of Arizona whose research focuses on criminal violence in Latin America.
When the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) "demobilized after the peace agreement in 2016," Osorio says, coca cultivation "skyrocketed." He notes that "it's even higher than before the U.S. started conducting aerial eradications" of coca fields. A similar counternarcotics program in Mexico, the Mérida Initiative, has been "a total disaster," Osorio says: It has not stopped drug trafficking, and years after the initiative began, Mexico's top law enforcement official was still "in bed" with the Sinaloa cartel.
The war on drugs has helped turn Latin America into the most violent region in the world, leading to increased black market activity and corruption. "If airstrikes miraculously kill off a cartel, another will fill the gap," Friedman says, "likely with considerable violence between criminals as the market shifts." According to Osorio, "There's always going to be someone willing to kill and die for supplying drugs when there's such a huge market."
Beyond direct military action, some Republicans say the U.S. should designate Mexican cartels as foreign terrorist organizations (FTOs). It is unlawful for someone in the U.S. to knowingly provide "material support or resources" to an FTO, and financial institutions must freeze the assets of known FTOs and their agents.
The impact of an FTO designation goes beyond terrorist combatants. A migrant who pays ransom to a cartel, for example, could be barred from claiming asylum in the United States. The White House so far has rejected the FTO option, saying the Treasury Department already sanctions participants in Mexico's drug trade.
The immigration implications of U.S. military action in Mexico could be significant, given that the two countries currently have migrant intake agreements. David J. Bier, associate director of immigration studies at the Cato Institute, thinks "the Mexican government would refuse any collaboration with the United States on immigration" if "the U.S. government conducted military strikes on Mexican soil."
Diplomatic relations between the two countries are already suffering. Osorio warns that there is "increasing exasperation and increasing anti-American sentiment from the broader population" in response to the war rhetoric, especially given the history of U.S. military involvement in Latin America. Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador is strongly opposed to U.S. military action against cartels, calling it "irresponsible" and "an offense to the people of Mexico."
Waltz told Politico "the worst thing we can do is continue to do nothing." But drug prohibition is the root of the problem that Waltz is trying to solve: deaths caused by the unpredictable composition of black market opioids. Literalizing the war on drugs can only make that problem worse.
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" A migrant who pays ransom to a cartel, for example, could be barred from claiming asylum"
And a migrant who claims to be in fear of the cartel would have to be admitted and given permanent residency.
Attacking Mexico would be an act of war against a friendly country. There are currently 40 million Mexicans in the United States; they would all need to be rounded up and interned. Given that the entire federal prison system only has 160,000 inmates, we are talking about an increase of a factor of 250 in the size of our prison population. At the current funding levels of the Bureau of Prisons, the cost of incarceration alone would be over two trillion dollars. And that doesn't include the cost of the massive gestapo that would be required to round everyone up.
The way to put the cartels out of business is to get Americans to stop using drugs. Mexico's drug use problem is tiny by comparison. It has hundreds of overdose deaths a year compared to tens of thousands in the US. Maybe we should ask Mexico how they do it?
Gee. An open-ended AUMF against an ill-defined enemy. What could go wrong.
"What could go wrong."
Afghanistan would look like a cake-walk.
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Indeed. The US has invaded Mexico five times, three in the 1840s and two in the 1910s. One in the 1840s had little opposition (the one that conquered California). One in the 1840s sputtered and only didn't get massacred because of the incompetent Mexican leadership, but it got Zachary Taylor elected President. The third in the 1840s was one of the most brilliant military expeditions in US history, led by Winfield Scott, whom I argue is second only to George Washington in terms of his military brilliance. Outnumbered by about 3 to 1 he still defeated the Mexicans and occupied Mexico City. And he forbade any abuse, looting, or profiteering, treating the defeated Mexicans well, because he knew that the US would lose any guerrilla war and he needed to convince the Mexicans that the US would leave after a peace agreement was reached. (And we did.) An invasion of Mexico would be to the US what Napoleon's invasion of Spain was to him. The US Army has never fought well on mountainous terrain -- which is all of northern and central Mexico -- with the singular exception of Scott's campaign and we have no Winfield Scotts around to lead us today.
If we elect an idiot who wants war with Mexico we will deserve our fate.
Some politicians just aren't content unless they're sending the troops out to kill people in a forever war. Remember that you can't be a hero unless you're responsible for lots of dead bodies.
Absolutely hilarious coming from the chickenhawk faggot agitating for a boots on the ground total war against Russia in Ukraine.
Hey drunky, remind me again, what did you think of the only president in your lifetime who didn't start any new international conflicts?
The one who suckered us into the way of a germ war attack and pretended it didn't happen? That one? The Orange Christian National Socialist?
You seemed pretty fond of the last one. Remember how you rabidly supported all of Bush and Obama's middle east meddling including Syria and Libya? Cheer up, lardass! Your neocon clergy are back in charge!
Herbert Hoover offered Germany the Moratorium on Brains, then when they bent over to pick that up, his pet League slipped them the Natcotics Limitation Cartel in summer of 1931. Germany produced more poppy narcotics than everyone else combined. So Farben supported Hitler and Japan replaced the East India Company. Did that end well?
Yeah? And then what happened?
You make history come alive, hank. Very randomly, but alive nonetheless.
Using military tactics on Mexican territory is a very, very bad idea for all the reasons cited.
A migrant who pays ransom to a cartel, for example, could be barred from claiming asylum in the United States.
That seems like a good thing. If they have paid a fee to a coyote they should be sent back. That would cut off the incentive for the coyotes to bring them to the border. Most important is to make this very publicly known S of the border.
I would in no way be in favor or putting a military relative of mind at risk in any action in Mexico (or elsewhere) the objective of which is solely or primarily to prevent Darwinicide in the United States.
And we tell the illegal paid the cartel how?
There are not going to be credit card receipts or cancelled checks, you know.
Same way we know that the 13 year old girl coming across with her 20-something "parents" is really their child and not a sex trafficking victim: "Bro, trust me"
Instead of demanding a federal solution, red states should simply encourage the cartels to flood blue states with as much of the stuff as possible. That should help self-correct a lot of the bullshit that's come out of those places in the last 20 years or so when people start dropping dead of overdoses.
Seems like an unbelievably idiotic idea. Bombing does not tend to stop effectiveness of a military. I cannot fathom why it would be any moreso with a cartel.
We have other ways to deal with the illegal problem. Missiles are a non-starter.
Congratulations on possibly the single most retarded take ever posted at Reason.com
Ackshully, once Hirohito realized the yanks would eventually bake and flatten his palace in Tokyo, surrender ended the hostilities. Some designated survivor outside the District of Columbia will doubtless call off exportation of meddlesome prohibitionism once large areas of that hideout are baked and flattened. Survivors will write books about how they never supported Trump or Biden just like Germans who didn't hang themselves claimed to have been against National Socialist fanaticism all along. I voted libertarian.
Yeah? And then what happened?
So random.
Right now, Mexico sees this as a Yankee problem, and there is no incentive for Mexico to do much besides standing back and watching with amusement as thousands of white boys OD on fentanyl.
Make it hurt Mexico's wallet. Encourage the Kleptocratic class to conclude that they will lose dinero if they don't get tough with the cartels.
The Mexican Federal Government controls maybe 60% of Mexico - the rest divided amongst the various cartels.
Drone strike manufacturing and distribution and the cartels will struggle. Their cost will rise. Taking money making opportunity away is the best way to deal with fentanyl.
And it will keep our military industrial complex happy.
Legalizing it and allowing for its safe manufacture and importation from legitimate pharmaceutical facilities would accomplish that a lot better than drone strikes on clandestine production and distribution. But since it doesn't satisfy the "And it will keep our military industrial complex happy" part we can't do that.
The government should get directly involved in the distribution of fentanyl.
That should slow the flow of drugs to a crawl.
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they did it with baby formula, and almost did it with eggs.
Hunter sees opportunity here.
Shocking to find Fiona peo-American overdoses, almost as shocking as her pro-criminal illegal immigration stance. Never address the problems and issues, just keep assuming this theoretical reality is the real world you ignorant twat.
Some people are reading too many old Tom Clancy novels.
Rut ro. Reason trashing Republicans again? Won't be long before the usual suspects start bleating "Leftists! Democrats!" like the tribal sheep they are because they can't imagine any other reason to be critical of their tribe's policies.
If anybody knows tribal....
As usual, drunky's prognostication powers are nearly as strong as his reasoning abilities.
Not all. Republican Representative Brian Mast, who lost both legs while serving in the Army in Afghanistan is on the Congressional Cannabis Caucus. With enough land mines and toe-poppers, the rest of the Republicans in congress could suddenly realize there are better things than paying thugs to bully girls, kick in doors, shoot dogs, teenagers latinos and blacks and whine because the other looters got to bungle the Communivirus ourbreak. Till then, there's State LPs.
Bombing Mexican Cartels Won't Stop Fentanyl
Probably not. But at least we'll have bombed Mexico, so it wouldn't be a total loss.
Mexico looks like it's already been bombed. Bombing might actually help them get their act together.
The drug gangs looting Mexico (and Panama, Ecuador, Peru, Bolivia, Colombia...) and wrecking their economies hide behind acronyms like DEA, GAFISUD, FATF, IRS-CID, FinCEN and the like. Like the Klan and Spooner's Secret bands of Robbers and Murderers, they bask in anomymity and immunity after causing hordes of desperate regugees to flee northward. Yet 150M voters were driven by mutual hatred to waste their votes to spite a dominant faction of The Kleptocracy, keeping the continent poor and hopeless. Another 82M were eligible to have voted LP if not for the anarco-communist infiltrators.
I was in Mexico City last summer. Prosperous city larger than New York City. Huge night life. Much cleaner. Way fewer rats. Lower homicide rate than most US cities. My wife and I might just retire there.
How does she know?
"Americans continue to overdose on illicit fentanyl..."
Apparently, "My body. My choice" doesn't apply across the board.
"Choice" means "abortion."
A while ago I was having a conversation with some lady about school choice, and she was all for it because she thought I was talking about school nurses performing abortions on demand. Once she figured out I really mean parents having a say in where their children go to school she freaked out and ended the conversation in a huff.
The reason you can always tell drunky's stories are pure fabulism is that he's always in a conversation with someone as retarded as he is, and there are vanishingly few of them out there.
Apparently the author of this article is not up on the latest news that animal tranquilizer is being and has been combined with street drugs for at least a year now.
More and more O.D.. are now being attributed to Xylezine.
I'm not sure why Republicans want to stop fentanyl. Seems like it would be a great deterrent. Given that they've often wanted to use the death penalty in the drug war, fentanyl saves the court costs!
Republicans like Coolidge, Reagan and the Bush hillbillies ban harmless drugs like mescaline, marijuana and LSD precisely to favor entrenched gangs already fixed up with corrupt politicians like themselves. No lie is too farfetched for them to cover up the verifiable fact that looter prohibitionism wrecks fractional-reserve banking systems--ESPECIALLY if the money is backed by precious metals, less elastic than inflatable legal tender paper.
idk we use our military to protect illegal pay-for-play schemes and bioweapon labs why not bomb some familias del crimen?
First of all, fentanyl is not entirely responsible for all the O.D.s as it has become increasingly clear that the animal tranquilizer, Xylezine is being added to street drugs to increase potency, which is now threatening to overtake fent as the cause of O.D.
There is no evidence that a bombing campaign in Mexico will achieve anything but bad relations between the two nations and even possibly endanger Americans living and vacationing there. This is not to discount the fact that some of the cartels now have access to sophisticated military equipment thanks to Zelensky and his buddies.
When the first U.S. Border patrol or D.E.A. chopper gets shot down by a SAM, the screaming out of Washington will be loud . Something such as this were to happen things could escalate totally out of control just as it is in Ukraine.
Wrong.
The US can target the cartels surgically with zero risk to American lives. We do it all the time in the middle east.
Yeah, our success in the middle east should definitely be a model for our own continent as well.
and the "success' in the Middle East makes it both moral and legal? Get a life.
bombing-mexican-cartels-wont-stop-fentanyl
no – but it might kill some decapitating scumbags
Note: this is just a very glib hot take on seeing the headline
(IOW - dont take too seriously)
Sinaloa poppy fields cropped up in the news in March 1945, when Opium War 4 was nearly over. In 1909 all drugs were legal, including relatively safe and non-addictive hemp, peyote, cocaine and mushrooms. There were no politically-connected crime cartels either. Streets in Mexico were only littered with dead in 1846-48. That was when These States took advantage of Britain's attack on China's prohibitionist fanaticism to lay claim to New Mexico, Arizona and California, gold fields and all. (https://bit.ly/3JGp8J1)
Yes drone strikes would severely deter fentanyl manufacturing and distribution. The author is a 13yr old girl writing a research paper.
Mexico cannot defend it's airspace.
Trump threatened to attack cartels directly if Mexico didn't close it's borders to central americans heading for the US. It worked. Now I think we should attack the cartels over fentanyl as it is killing a lot Americans .
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Like it or not, the cartels are a US problem (though not as much as they are to Mexico). Not just because of human and drug smuggling, but kidnapping and gangwarfare as well. So considering that, why not cooperate with the Mexican government to take out the cartels?
Send in military forces and crush them. It wouldn't be a flawless or comprehensive solution, but a part of one.
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Hope there’ll be some kind of warning before a missile barrage. My wife and I like to go over to Reynosa or Rio Bravo for lunch now and then.
Also note that if you bomb a border town, the best survival bet for any ordinary civilian trying not to get killed would be to head northward. And in this case their refugee story would not be fake.
There was a huge problem with enslaved and cruelly mistreated draft animals in These States in 1890. City streets sloshed with tons of droppings and dead animals were a problem. Then entrepreneurs offered cheap, legal automobiles and by 1920 there were more cars than horsecarts. Streets were cleaner, safer, transportation quicker and more reliable. Forbearance of politicians from declaring a war on cars, labeling auto plants cartels, bombing them and shooting motorists on sight is not something we'd expect from today's looter Kleptocracy.
Any use of militery-like force IN MEXICO would be a blatant act of WAR. No telling which nations might decide there is a score to settle, or a weakness in DC that needs exloited, or money to be made, and take direct or indirect adverse actions. Not good. Never mind the moral bankruptcy of such a move. Who know, China, who produce much of the offending Fent, could decide "why bother with Taiwan, let's just go get America".
There IS a solution that has been proven quite successful: CLOSE THE DAMN BORDER. Yes, even to freight. Impse rigourous inspection protocls, Every stash of fent and other drugs foundbeing smuggled WILL result in the transport method being used to smuggle be seized.
Further, in cnsideration of the high death tolls caused by fent and other such substances being smuggled, make illegal importation of some relatively small base quantity of any such drug an act of treason, which is defined as making war on a state or the Utited States. Just as our dropping missiles on some remote cartel base would be an act of war, their making.sending fent etc into our country is an act of war. Use sateite/drone racking, wait till they get a couple ,iles this side of the boundary, go git 'em. The standard penalty for treason is death. I'd prefer by firing squad byt any effective method will do. About the time the fifth execution gets broadcast on natinal TeeVee, the Fent Pipeline would close.
The real problem however is that, at least the current administration (pardon my wild exaggeration here....) utterly lack the stones to ACT against this onslaught, which is precisely WHY we have it with which to deal.
Of course, given satisfactory proof, government officials enabling the present traficking would also be liable to those same firing squads upon conviction.
It may not stop fentanyl, but it would be fun to watch! However, this is merely performance art because it authorizes the president to use force. If the person currently keeping the president's chair warm wanted to fo it, he would use another illegal executive order.