A Year Post-Dobbs, Major Shifts in Abortion Access and Politics
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A year ago Saturday, the U.S. Supreme Court issued its decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization, overturning Roe v. Wade and Planned Parenthood v. Casey and upending the legal scheme America relied on to govern reproductive rights for nearly 50 years. The Dobbs ruling has had a profound impact on abortion laws and access over the past year, with effects also reaching women's health care and U.S. politics more broadly.
"For women and their families, abortion access is now largely a function of financial and geographic circumstances," notes NBC News. As states rushed to pass new abortion bans post-Dobbs, or put old but unenforced ones into effect, women in many states lost access to abortion entirely or after just a few weeks of pregnancy:
Abortion is outlawed — with few exceptions — in 13 states, with care also unavailable in Wisconsin, where there are no official abortion providers. Seven states restrict abortions based on the number of weeks a woman has been pregnant, with some bans coming as early as six weeks — before many women know they are pregnant. More than 28 million women of reproductive age live in states where abortion is banned, unavailable or restricted, with 2 million more in the two states where abortion is available but restrictions are pending….
Bans and restrictions mean many women who do seek abortions have to travel long distances. Before Dobbs, less than 15% of reproductive-age women lived more than one hour's drive from the nearest abortion facility, according to a study from researchers affiliated with Boston University, which compared population distribution with the locations of abortion clinics nationwide. By September — just three months after the Dobbs decision — that figure had more than doubled, to 33%.
According to the Society of Family Planning, these restrictions led to more than 80,000 people encountering "disruptions in accessing abortion care" between July 2022 and March 2023 and, as a result, "there were 25,640 cumulative fewer abortions" during this period.
The Associated Press has a good interactive map showing the extent of abortion restrictions in different states.
It shows that abortion is severely restricted at all stages of pregnancy in Alabama, Arkansas, Idaho, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, West Virginia, and Wisconsin. In Georgia, it's largely banned after fetal cardiac activity can be detected (around six weeks) and, in Nebraska, at around 12 weeks. Restrictions after 15–22 weeks of pregnancy are now in effect in Arizona, Florida, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Ohio, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Utah. In the remaining states, restrictions only kick in at 24 weeks of pregnancy or later.
These restrictions have not just curtailed access to abortion for people with unwanted pregnancies. They've also made things difficult for women with pregnancy complications or nonviable pregnancies, and for the doctors who treat them. (The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists rounds up some doctors' stories here.)
In some cases, pregnant women with risky but not-yet-life-threatening issues have been forced to wait until their conditions worsen before they can terminate pregnancies under abortion-ban exemptions meant to save mothers' lives. In other cases, women carrying fetuses with little to no chance of surviving outside the women were reportedly forced to carry these doomed pregnancies to term, or travel hours out of state to obtain an abortion.
Such was the case for a young Alabama woman whose membranes ruptured early in her pregnancy. "No healthcare provider was going to be able to do anything in Alabama and waiting for something to happen is really dangerous for the mother," Northwestern Medicine's Melissa Simon told MedPage Today. "So [the woman and her mother] came to Chicago to get an abortion procedure because there was no chance that this pregnancy was going to survive and that this baby was going to survive. There was a high chance that the mother would develop an infection or could die in that scenario."
The Biden administration is currently investigating two hospitals that declined to perform an abortion on a Missouri woman whose health and life were threatened by pregnancy.
That investigation comes as part of a standoff between the federal government and some state governments over what is required by the federal Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA). "The EMTALA statute requires that Medicare hospitals provide all patients an appropriate medical screening, examination, stabilizing treatment, and transfer, if necessary, irrespective of any state laws or mandates that apply to specific procedures," the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said. "Stabilizing treatment could include medical and/or surgical interventions, including abortion. If a state law prohibits abortion and does not include an exception for the health or life of the pregnant person — or draws the exception more narrowly than EMTALA's emergency medical condition definition — that state law is preempted."
We've also seen a major legal dispute playing out over abortion pills.
A federal court in Texas held in April that the Food and Drug Administration erred in approving the abortion-inducing drug mifepristone back in 2000 and ordered mifepristone access to be suspended. Meanwhile, a federal court in Washington said U.S. authorities can't do anything to restrict access to mifepristone.
The situation came to a head later that month at the Supreme Court, which granted the government's request for a stay as the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit considers the case on its merits. The 5th Circuit heard arguments in the case in May and has not yet issued a decision.
Battles over abortion access and legality have reverberated throughout the U.S. political landscape.
Following the Dobbs decision, a number of polls have shown Americans increasingly identify as "pro-choice" or say they disfavor total abortion bans. Voters concerned about abortion rights may have played a big role in the 2022 election and are viewed as a major challenge to Republicans in elections to come, too. "Democrats credit abortion with helping them keep control of the Senate and protecting against steep losses in the House in last year's midterm elections. And they plan to make it a major campaign issue in 2024," notes The Washington Post.
Votes specifically related to abortion haven't always gone the way pro-lifers wanted, even in red states like Kansas. Some more extreme anti-abortion legislation has been failing in red-state legislatures, too.
Before Dobbs, Republican politicians were always free to cater to their most anti-abortion constituents with little worry that it would affect their bottom line, since those with less extreme views were hardly likely to vote against them over policies that couldn't actually be put into practice. But the overturning of Roe has made abortion extremism a liability for some Republicans.
"The divide between GOP moderates and the most ardent antiabortion lawmakers over how far to pursue restrictions continues to fester," notes the Post. "When Roe was in place, the politics were simpler for Republicans. They could just say they wanted it gone and press Democrats on whether they would support any limits," points out NPR. Now Republicans are being pressed for more specifics, and liable to anger parts of their base no matter which way they go.
Post-Dobbs, many Americans "are reporting more liberal views on abortion than major pollsters have seen in years," notes FiveThirtyEight after analyzing a range of polls. "Even conservatives, although the changes are slight, are increasingly supportive of abortion rights. There are other signs that longstanding views are shifting: For instance, Americans are more open to the idea of unrestricted third-trimester abortion than they were even a year ago. And although it's hard to predict what will shape upcoming elections, there are indications that abortion has the potential to be a major motivator for some Americans when they go to vote in 2024."
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The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 8th Circuit ruled against a judge who jailed two children during their parents' custody dispute. The case involved America's Got Talent child stars Kadan and Brooklyn Rockett, whose parents were going through a divorce. In 2019, the kids refused to go home with their mom after one custody hearing, so Taney County Judge Eric Eighmy threw Kadan and Brooklyn in jail cells for an hour and threatened to put them in foster care.
"He took them there himself," noted the 8th Circuit in a Thursday decision. "They were ordered to remove their shoes, socks, jackets, and jewelry before entering separate cells."
A few months later, when the kids refused to go with a court officer to their mother's home, "police took the children to a juvenile detention center, where they were strip-searched and put in separate solitary-confinement cells for two days," The Washington Examiner reported in March. "All of this was done despite the fact that Eighmy didn't have jurisdiction."
The father, Bart Rockett, sued Eighmy, who argued the suit was invalid because he had judicial immunity. But a U.S. district court ruled that judicial immunity did not shield Eighmy in this case.
Eighmy appealed to the 8th Circuit, which issued a ruling yesterday. "At this early stage, the only question before us is whether judicial immunity shields these acts," it states. "The district court said no. We affirm in part and reverse in part."
The appeals court found Eighmy was immune for issuing an order to pick the children up the second time. But "Judge Eighmy's decision to personally escort the kids to jail took what would otherwise be a judicial act too far," the appeals court concluded. "Judges have the authority to order an officer or a bailiff to escort an unruly litigant to jail. They can also pull the parties into a conference room to discuss what just happened in court.…Judge Eighmy crossed the line, however, when he personally escorted the kids to jail, stood there while they removed their clothes and belongings, and personally came back an hour later to release them."
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Email from Sony CEO Jim Ryan contradicts the company's public narrative about Microsoft and Call of Duty. The government is trying to prevent Microsoft from acquiring Activision Blizzard, the company behind the popular game Call of Duty. Among the government's concerns is a fear that Microsoft would make Call of Duty exclusive to or more easily accessible on its Xbox gaming console, harming other gaming console companies like Sony, which owns PlayStation. And Sony has helped publicly push this narrative.
But as Axios reports, "Sony PlayStation boss Jim Ryan privately didn't think Microsoft was trying to take Call of Duty exclusive when it bid for Activision Blizzard," according to what a Microsoft lawyer told the court yesterday:
The private email to former Sony Computer Entertainment Europe president Chris Deering was quoted during Microsoft's opening statement as part of hearings over the Federal Trade Commission's attempt to secure a preliminary injunction against the deal and ultimately block it.
Why it matters: Ryan and the PlayStation team have been the chief antagonists against Microsoft's $69 billion bid for Call of Duty publisher Activision Blizzard, citing concerns over Microsoft pulling COD from PlayStation.
Details: "It is not an exclusivity play at all," Ryan wrote to Deering after the deal was announced. "They're thinking bigger than that."
Ryan's email went on to state that he was "pretty sure we will continue to see [Call of Duty] on PlayStation for many years to come. We'll be okay. We'll be more than okay."
Even if the Federal Trade Commission "persuades the court that Microsoft can't be trusted to keep Call of Duty on competing platforms, the regulator still has to prove that that would be unfairly harmful to competitors on consoles and cloud," notes Axios. "Microsoft has argued that, even without CoD, PlayStation would still have the majority of the market."
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"Restrictions after 15–22 weeks of pregnancy are now in effect in Arizona, Florida, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Ohio, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Utah."
Of course, 95% of abortions are performed within the first 15 weeks of pregnancy, and the ones after that are generally due to fatal fetal deformity or risk to the mother.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/ss/ss7009a1.htm#T10_down
As a true libritarian ENB knows the federal goverment should force states to mandate all abortion all the time. Fuck that stupid federalism
It's SCOTUS'S job to ensure the US Constitution and the US Constitution says ... "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."
If you're going to pretend a pregnancy is a person; you're violating the US Constitution by forcing a Woman to reproduce for that said person. (i.e. Involuntary Servitude)
not to mention, "The right of the people to be secure in their persons"
Explain how Richard Hutchinson isn't a person. He was born after only 21 weeks gestation.
Look at the face of the people you want killed.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2021/06/23/premature-baby-survive-birthday-record/
Is Sarah McLachlin playing in the background? Because I don't want to cry.
OMG! Aborted at 21-weeks!!!!!
Maybe you should realize the legislation you're supporting would've FORCED Richard Hutchinson to not be born at 21 weeks. Quick shove him back in there; can't have a pre-due ejection occurring. Better lock-up the parents for murder.
Congratulations on having the most retarded take on abortion I've seen in quite some time.
Biology is slavery, guys
Well, sort of. No one is paying me to live.
Not yet. See the DNC platform for 2028 (assuming you are the right class and color).
"No one is paying me to live."
How would you prove that?
I wouldn't. Because I was making a joke.
Cite?
No. Another lame and incorrect statement.
Biology isn't FORCING Women to reproduce. Gov-Guns are.
no - just plain wrong here
If it's wrong; Get rid of the Gov-Guns in the equation.
Ending an innocent life to avoid responsibility.
Anti-abortion activists: interfering in a decision about a life they are never going to take any responsibility for.
Mike Laursen: Bitching and moaning about decisions for a life he will never take any responsibility for.
Seriously, think about this. Mike is glibly arguing that we shouldn't care about a murder if we aren't willing "take any responsibility" for the person to be murdered. This is an absurd and cynical conclusion to make- that violation of rights doesn't matter unless you have a personal stake in it.
But even set that aside, Mike obviously doesn't believe this. This same logic would imply that Mike ought to shut up. He has zero stake in this decision either. And of course he is happily parachuting into comments to mock and condemn decisions that don't effect him. He isn't willing to support the homeless migrants coming into the country, but he sure is pissy when people object to it. He isn't going to house and take responsibility for a drug addict, but he sure will complain about drug laws.
Of course, despite being a bunch of shallow bullshit, this line of argumentation is flatly evil. It suggests that someone's life is only valuable if someone is willing to spend money for it.
This is an absurd and cynical conclusion to make
It is also just a flat out lie. There are many people willing and waiting to adopt babies to the point that they travel overseas to find an infant. Families also step up in many occasions. My dad adopted his grandson at the age of 66. He is turning 80 this year and his son won't graduate from high school for 3 years.
Cuntservaturds: TOTALLY willing to be compassionate with the wombs of OTHER PEOPLE!!!
I am totally compassionate. If choosing to engage in the act of procreation is so horrifying and anathema to personal freedoms of the billions of loose tarts here, I am a fan of preemptive abortion for them and their nazi leftist sympathizers.
Save them the pain of anxiety and enslavemant of being a parent, put a .45 slug into their swamp slime brains. No more worries ever. The ultimate compassion!
Will Sowell, authoritarian hypocrite extraordinaire, has never heard that those who live by the bullet, die by the bullet!
(A hypocrite because it advocates death for imperfect people, never acknowledging that it, too, is an imperfect "thing", whatever it is.)
My, oh my.
Well, Mike IS a complete piece of shit. And an inveterate liar.
Yes, because all true libertarians believe we are all responsible for the well-being of everyone else.
THIS is why true libertarians believe in being compassionate with the wombs of OTHER PEOPLE!!! Because true libertarians believe THEY know what is best for OTHER people! True libertarians believe that it is THEIR responsibility to be Karens, Nosenheimers, and Buttinskies!
It is 100% a "Karens" take......... +1000000.
"Yes, because all true libertarians believe we are all responsible for the well-being of everyone else."
With Gov-Guns.... It is so much a lefty premise It's amazing how many generally Limited Government folk fall for it. The movement was founded by the Catholic Church (Democrats #1 religious affiliation). Republicans wrote Roe v Wade. Hypocrisy runs so deep on this issue its not even funny.
Gee, you are void of even 1 cell clump of operational cognitive power. You clearly are a Biden with a pseudonym.
Catholics majority democrats.? You are so challenged I pity you
Pre-viable; It has no inherent right to life. Therefore it requires the *enslavement* of another to maintain whatever life you want to pretend is there. The USA wasn't founded on enslaving people to save another. Especially on such a personal level.
All Pro-Lifers are preaching the same retarded premise. That Gov-Guns must be used for organ donation to save life. I think you *ALL* should be Gov-Gun FORCED into a organ donation program until you can learn to stop pimping people's body parts out at your religious consensus.
So don't 'End' it just set it free. If it has "inherent" life it doesn't need someone else's body.
Addressed the stupidity of this argument already. Children can't support themselves either. So should we be able to abort them? God, come up with a good fucking argument not catchphrases. Government guns dehr, enslavement, dehr set them free, dehr. Fuck you're a broken record and incapable of making anything but catchphrase arguments.
I can always tell when no-one can make a counter-point.
...because they always resort to personal attacks and nothing else.
No, everyone is just tired of you repeating a bunch of hackneyed catch phrases.
A gestating baby is more than a mass of tissue. It’s a helpless person. Killing it is murder.
Case closed.
Yeah; My imaginary unicorns are more than imaginary unicorns too and by golly Gov-Guns should be sure EVERYONE honors my imaginations. /s
Legislated religion 101.
I’m agnostic, so try again.
And P.S.; Yes children can support their own right to life because it's 'inherent'. That's the very definition and difference between a right and an *entitlement* to someone else's property/body. Gov-Guns do not grant 'inherent' rights. They preserve/defend them against those who want to aggressively take them away. Yet in the Pro-Life movement the Gov-Guns are used to FORCE the Woman to reproduce. They are on the wrong side of that equation.
99.9% of women make that choice when they decide to fuck without birth control. We all know what sex is for.
Uh, no. Sex can be for pleasurable exercise and/or reproduction. Dare I say, both floor wax and dessert topping. 🙂
It's pleasurable solely to convince you to do it.
Yeah; And making smokers die of lung cancer is totes cool.. Surely not some tyrannical authoritarian BS. They deserve it!!! /s
Nobody is supporting raping women.
Joe and Hunter Biden could not be reached for comment.
Where is this gov-gun forced reproduction occurring? Surely you can provide evidence.
Don't play stupid. Pro-Choice is exactly what it means in this case.
Anti-Choice is all about banning all but one option.
Actually biology is. Sexual reproduction evolved approximately 1.05 billion years ago. Don't want to get pregnant (or risk pregnancy) don't have sex. If you do, and still don't want to get pregnant, you can greatly reduce the chances (use multiple forms of birth control and it basically takes the chances to statistically zero). If you get pregnant then it's because of biology. So yes biology is forcing you to get pregnant since it's a biological function, just like fucking breathing is. Are laws against strangulating people also slavery dipshit?
Also define what a person is and explain how that is different from a fetus? I'm betting you can't. Because scientifically there is no difference. Development? No, even a 99 yo woman is still biologically developing, and adapting every single second of their life. Rates and types of development change as you agr but the process never ceases until you expire. Ability to care for yourself? Kids can't care for themselves, neither can many people with a variety of disabilities, are they also not people? Kick a five year old out of the house and how long do you think they'll live? Days if they're lucky. Hours is probably more realistic. Why is this morally and legally reprehensible but deciding to kill a fetus is considered freedom? Because you have to care for both in order for them to survive, which is a burden and not unique to humans. In fact, the more sentient a species is the longer the burden. The less sentient, the shorter the period of rearing. Since humans are fairly advanced cognitively, we have a much longer period of rearing, in which our young require our care.
So is cancer.. But your stupidity propaganda will pretend cutting out cancer is some sac-religious amoral procedure that needs banned. Gov-Guns is the tool your choosing to use to STOP medical procedure. Gov-Guns are the tool being used to FORCE reproduction.
Actually cancer has the same DNA as the host. So it's not a separate being. Fuck, don't even get that right. Besides a fetus is the combination of genetic material of two individuals. Fuck you're an idiot.
That would be 100% false if the cancer organ was donated.
As-if even if it wasn't false your Gov-Gun worshiping in other people's PERSONAL life without a single legitimate cause would be any less despicable, tyrannical and authoritarian.
“That would be 100% false if the cancer organ was donated.”
FFS, you’re really reaching with that outlier of an argument.
As-if pretending babies appear instantly after fertilizing isn't not only a stretch but a down right loaded lie.
No one ever said they did. But they’re a person long before halfway through gestation. Plenty of babies are successfully delivered by twenty weeks, given sufficient king development.
They completely and undeniably infer it constantly by saying ending Pre-viable pregnancy is “murdering babies”. Are dead corpses in the grave people too? Do we need to start “saving” dead corpses?
The fact is you can support fetal ejection and not support “murdering” anything because dead corpses, eggs or whatever cannot be “murdered” if they don’t have any inherent right to life.
Pro-Life is so stupid the ‘fetal ejection’ is what they want to eliminate and care less about making any “murdering” of whatever illegal. Their touted concern doesn’t match their legislation at all. That’s because they know their case sits on a pile of BS about religious unicorn fairy-tale creatures that they insist are there but cannot actually put their imagination into existence / *reality*.
"you’re violating the US Constitution by forcing a Woman to reproduce for that said person. (i.e. Involuntary Servitude)"
Based on this logic, if I am expected to pay my restaurant tab, it is "involuntary servitude".
lol... No; you having to work at a restaurant for 9-months against your will is Involuntary servitude. Nice try... /s Really; one of the worst ones I've ever heard.
Perhaps you want to rephrase that. Because it sure seems like you are saying that it is only involuntary servitude if it requires 9 months of labor.
What about 8 months of labor?
What if I rack up a $20,000 bill at a restaurant and it will take me 1 month of labor to pay off the bill. Is that involuntary servitude?
Could it be argued that consensual sex creates a biological contract with the 3rd party so created? The law certainly seems to recognize that something along those line already exists. A contributor of sperm certainly has no right to force the termination of a pregnancy and an unavoidable financial obligation to said 3rd party.
But that interferes with the dream of life without responsibility. At least for preferred people.
In the land where a landscaping business that plants seed in your yard at your request gets sued to mow and water that lawn just because they planted it at your request.
Hey; MORE, MORE, MORE Gov-Guns against people is always the best solution…. Right, right? /s
Well set aside the law- let's just talk about the morality in the first place.
But notice that TLL has disappeared as he usually does when we start talking about these particulars. He is quick to declare "slavery!!!" but when you push on that logic, he is gone until the next time.
Also a Mike laursen maneuver.
Morality? My stance is simple. To deny that life begins once the zygote is properly implanted and cell division is self-sustaining is unscientific. Terminating a viable pregnancy at 4 weeks and terminating a viable pregnancy at 40 weeks has the exact same result, the only difference being the maturity of the organism. Adult humans are morally responsible for their own actions and it is morally wrong to knowingly terminate a human life.
Legality? My stance is simple. Freedom means that people are allowed to make what others may consider morally repugnant choices. And criminal punishment for an abortion on the part of the mother or the doctor can never satisfy justice. How can society demand retribution when society has lost nothing in an exchange.
I would lobby for public policy that discourages abortion for all viable pregnancies, but does not classify it as a crime. I would also lobby for any physical assault that leads to the death of a child in utero should to be prosecuted as manslaughter or murder. I feel this strikes the right balance under a social contract that recognizes natural rights and the sanctity of human life.
What I won’t do is absolve any of the parties involved of their moral turpitude. Pregnancy is a consequence of sex. And a highly preventable consequence at this point.
What about he Science!!!! /s
You all sound JUST LIKE leftards.
The science isn't on your side idiot.
MORE, MORE, MORE Gov-Guns because of "The Science"...
100% a leftard excuse for a tyrannical state.
What about if you just STOP trying to force women to reproduce and support at-will (CHOICE) to fetal ejection.
One of the dumbest things I hear is the "killing" propaganda. Making killing a fetus illegal doesn't stop fetal ejection. The association is a complete BS misconception. It's all Gov-Guns and propaganda loaded.
Fetal ejection you think that's cuts? Fuck you're an idiot. No one is forcing them to reproduce they chose to when they had sex. Because on of the possible outcomes to sex is pregnancy.
If they choose (Pro-Choice) there’s NO NEED for Gov-Guns.
And anyone who pretends otherwise is far more stupid.
You wouldn’t be making such a stupid claim if you’d at least resort to the pursuit of ‘justice’ but since pre-viable pregnancies have no *inherent* right to life; you have no standing that way either.
You have no standing to claim "murder" or "killing" when someone else's kid is in a coma for months on end and decides to finally pull the plug. You have no standing to claim "murder" or "killing" because someone wouldn't donate their body organs. All these are overwhelmingly PERSONAL LIFE decisions. Yet out of nowhere in today's Power-Mad society; all the sudden the freedom standard changes and you want to support Gov-Gun dictation of life-support not just by machine but by someone else's very own body as if that were less sacred than a machine.
Unless the woman was raped, it is entirely voluntary.
If it's so voluntary; what the need for Gov-Guns?
Because it’s taking a life. A clear violation of the NAP. You can dance all around it, but that fetus is alive from the moment of conception. Yes, it could die, but so can any living thing. When you voluntarily end another life though, you've performed an aggressive act against that life.
So if I decide I don't want to donate my organs I'm "murdering" and being aggressive to someone else who needs them? If I remove someone from my house by force that's "murder" if they freeze to death? Is my body less sacred than my house?
Seriously; take a look at the premise you're stuck on. If it has no 'inherent' right to life it certainly has no 'inherent' right to my body.
The pregnancy == chattel slavery is alive and well, praise the Matriarchy. Being forced into an action by emotional & ignorant mob rule is clearly much better than being forced by government lackeys.
Reproduction does not occur at the moment of birth. I mean, duh. If abortion is on the table, then reproduction has already taken place, which is why "reproductive rights" is a misnomer, unless we're talking about access to fertility treatments or forcing people to conceive children.
95% of abortions are performed within the first 15 weeks of pregnancy, and the ones after that are generally due to fatal fetal deformity or risk to the mother
Which is why bans make no sense, really, and the screams of "bAbY kIlLeRs!!1!" are disingenuous.
On the contrary, if true, then a 15-week ban with such exceptions affects almost no one except particularly depraved people, and the shrieks about "forced birth" are disingenuous. Such a policy is more in line with European abortion restrictions, and don't progressives want to emulate Europe?
For instance, Americans are more open to the idea of unrestricted third-trimester abortion than they were even a year ago.
More Americans? Is it 12? 18? 47?
These types of weaselly statements always trigger my bullshit filter. What does "More open" mean? Does it mean, "I'm pretty against it" instead of "adamantly against it"? Is it that people who already were for 3rd trimester abortions under some situations have doubled down and said "all situations"?
There’s a link right there in the same paragraph to the FiveThirtyEight article, which has little graphs and everything.
The graph explicitly says democrats are more open to second and third trimester abortions.
EMB selectively omits this little nugget.
In the 2020s, only Democrats are people. Republicans are sub-human, aka MAGA. And independents and others are suspect.
I guess so. Wasn't it considerate of her, though, to provide a link so one could read about the survey results in more depth.
Over-turning Roe v Wade did absolutely nothing to change second and third trimester abortion policy. So even going there is dodging the subject at hand.
That Dobbs has led Democrats to adopt more favorable views of late-term abortion seems to indicate that they have no idea what Roe actually said, and why proposals to enshrine its abortion protections in federal statutes always go further than Roe ever did. Gone are the days of the "safe, legal and rare" mantra. Now it's "safe, legal, destigmatized, and taxpayer-subsidized."
That Dobbs has led Republicans to adopt more favorable views of FORCED reproduction ……………………… I’m sure you can fill in the rest.
I figure the Democratic push-back is well justified being the whole Dobbs (throwing out individual rights) was initiated by Pro-Life Republicans which ironically doesn’t even represent the majority of Republican citizens views. Poll after poll showed more Republicans supported Roe v Wade than not.
NOT that individual right should be at the whim of [WE] mob rules. But it does show the idea that the individual right to one's own F'En body is well acknowledged on both sides and it's only Power-Mad religious freaks (Pro-Life) trying to tear down that right.
Babies have rights too. One of them is the right to stay alive.
What baby?
BS Propaganda doesn't make babies just wild Power-Mad imaginations.
Another fitting ideology of leftards (ref; Climate Change).
Just as their BS propaganda hasn't developed the massive dust bowl.
For sound economic perspective go to https://honesteconomics.substack.com/
No
"The Supreme Court sided with the Biden administration in a case involving immigrants being deported for obstruction of justice."
Two down, 8,000,000 (since Biden took office) to go?
You must have missed enbs roundup 2 days ago
Illegal immigration is down
The economy is great
Now if we could just kill more babies, the U.S. under Biden would be perfect.
Because every act of sex = a baby… /s
The stupidity about the whole sales-pitch is so imaginary and retarded.
"Don't kill my unicorn!!!" --- Um... RU mentally ill?
No, but it's impossible to get pregnant without sex or at least the products of sex.
It's impossible to cause lethal car accidents if no one drives a car too. Surely; that's the premise the USA should go on. /s
Sex exists for sexual reproduction. That's its primary function and natural end, not an unfortunate byproduct. Your sex organs belong to your reproductive system. Driving, on the other hand, isn't nature's way of killing people in car crashes.
WHO’S reproductive system??? Funny how everyone knows WHO’S it is yet they insist on using Gov-Guns to control it from outside of ” WHO’S it is”.
And on to your point; Perhaps anyone not having sex and reproduction should be charged with "murdering babies" and "killing".. Perhaps any dead pregnancy should be charged as well...
Yeah; that just how stupid the Pro-Life movement has gotten.
Keep them damn foreigners out!
Mike Laursen: interfering in a decision about lives he is never going to take any responsibility for.
Another battle of wits in which White Mike demonstrates he remains defenseless.
Mike Laursen : spews yet another liberal victimhood narrative.
Even by your standards, this is lazy and stupid.
How so?
That Nicolette Glazer is a bitch to read. I can't do complicated subjects in Gen-Z text type speak. Spell shit out. Use sentence structure. Use punctuation. Avoid emojis'. Communicate professionally - you're a lawyer.
H8 spch. Lol.
"abortion access is now largely a function of financial and geographic circumstances" - Access to obtain, keep, bear and practice with arms is also a function of financial and geographic circumstances, and that's a constitution-protected right.
Well said.... Too many have thrown away the Constitution (the very definition of the USA) for [WE] mob RULES democracy and have thrown away the USA in the process.
Is there any significant human activity that is not a function of financial and geographic circumstances?
Arguably no.
Access to obtain, keep, bear and practice with arms is also a function of financial and geographic circumstances, and that’s a constitution-protected right.
Yes. Because they clearly defined it.
Trigger warning for Nick Gillespie.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/06/22/hunter-biden-and-the-corruption-of-the-liberal-media/
Imagine if Donald Trump Jnr illegally bought a firearm while off his head on crack and then had his girlfriend throw the firearm into a dumpster. And imagine if that girlfriend was the one-time wife of his own brother, Eric. In this alternative universe, Trump Jnr is also ‘wilfully failing’ to pay income tax. And now the cherry on the cake of these borderline Oedipean transgressions by a son of great wealth and privilege – where lowly black rappers like Kodak Black get banged up for illegal possession of a gun, rich, white, Teflon Trump Jnr does not. Not a day in jail for Donald the younger.
And yet all of the above is true of Hunter Biden, and the liberal media seems entirely cool with it. The Woke Industrial Complex is sitting it out. Following a five-year federal investigation of his behaviour, Hunter has reportedly come to a cushy plea agreement with prosecutors. He is set to plead guilty to two misdemeanour tax crimes and to illegally possessing a gun (that’s the one his then lover, the widow of his late brother Beau, threw in the trash behind a grocery store in Wilmington, Delaware). And in return, he’ll likely stay out of jail. Kodak Black must be fuming. He got three years for the same gun offence. It fell to Black’s attorney, Bradford Cohen, to call out the double standards. ‘Two tiers of justice?’, he asked on Instagram this week, to little avail – the NYT, BLM and other modern-day race obsessives who even think a white dude sporting dreadlocks is a horrendous act of ‘white privilege’ seem to be mostly fine with Hunter’s lucky deal.
No, it’s the media response to the Hunter affair, the extraordinary lack of media heat, that stands out. We live under a hyper-moralistic media complex. There are very few sordid affairs involving supposedly bad white men that are not gleefully turned into morality tales by the media’s priestly elites. From #MeToo to Trump’s throwaway ‘pussy’ comment to the debauchery of ‘Wall Street bros’, the modern media love nothing more than a parable about the wicked ways of the pale, male and stale of our species. Even what rich white men eat can become the subject of haughty media derision. People magazine made Trump’s penchant for McDonald’s grub into a symbol of America under his rule – ‘cheap’ and ‘too salty’.
And yet when it comes to Hunter – the crack, the ill-begotten gun, the sweet plea deal, the prostitutes, the sex videos, the business dealings – the media suddenly lose interest in moralising on whiteness and maleness and privilege. In fact, the opposite instinct kicks in – they seek to drain judgement of any sort from the Hunter scandals. Some of the coverage of the plea agreement sounds like it could have been written by White House staffers. The Hunter mess is so ‘painful’ for President Biden, says the New York Times; it’s a ‘gaping wound in his heart’. Get a room. It is ‘unhinged’ to claim that Hunter has received special treatment, says the New Yorker, a magazine that once wondered if ‘white people’ are perhaps hosts of a ‘pathogen’ of privilege and racism. Maybe Hunter is immune to that pathogen. Lucky him.
The woke media normally unleash the dogs of moralism against misbehaving white men of privilege. In Hunter’s case they call the dogs off. ‘The media must not take the bait’ on the right’s Hunter-bashing, decrees Salon. I’m not making the case for pursuing a finger-wagging crusade against Hunter. In fact, in a different era, I could easily see myself feeling sorry for him. The president’s troubled, grief-stricken son whose junky past is forever being splashed across the papers – it can’t be nice.
Here is a news flash for you.
There is a double standard in law enforcement. But it is not red vs. blue. It is the powerful vs. the powerless.
Trump Jr.'s sins aren't with cocaine, they are financial in nature.
https://www.propublica.org/article/ivanka-donald-trump-jr-close-to-being-charged-felony-fraud
And guess what - then the case mysteriously went away.
And this was in 2012, well before Trump Sr. was declaring he was going to run for president.
Brendan O'Neill is smart enough to use Google and to understand this. But he would rather provoke tribal outrage instead of inform you of what is really going on. And that is why you are content to promote him - because of the dopamine rush that he gives you.
https://twitter.com/Huff4Congress/status/1672221103798861826?t=rvYHO8AvnpH1BeWoeoFmzg&s=19
Author friends: imagine you’re writing a novel or screenplay and you write a character who does everything Hunter Biden is confirmed to have done.
You wouldn’t.
It’s too unbelievable. It strains credibility too far.
Let’s go.
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Oh yes, so if one does it, Jeffy, then the other is OK to do it? However, your position does not square with the current treatment Trump is getting when compared to Biden or his kid.
Never said it was okay. Only that Brendan O'Neill entire screed of "imagine if Trump Jr. did all the things Hunter Biden did!!!" is thoroughly dishonest. BOTH of them are guilty of, at a minimum, engaging in questionable behavior that would warrant a law enforcement investigation. And BOTH of them are escaping the full measure of justice for their actions because of their fame and power and family name.
You pulled a "boaf sidez" there, Jeffy. Your disingeniousness lacks any bounds that the eye can see.
"And this was in 2012, well before Trump Sr. was declaring he was going to run for president."
I think Trump was a New York City Democrat back then.
Are you really helping your narrative?
You mean, "my narrative" of:
There is a double standard in law enforcement. But it is not red vs. blue. It is the powerful vs. the powerless.
Yes, I do think it helps "my narrative".
The govt does favors for red and blue if they're on the establishment bandwagon. As Trump was in 2012 and wasn't since 2015.
He turned in his card with the whole Obama birtherism claim well before 2012. I don't think he was a Dem since late 90s or early aughts.
He turned in his card with the whole Obama birtherism claim well before 2012. I don’t think he was a Dem since late 90s or early aughts.
This is true, although Ivanka, at the time, was still very much a Democrat-in-good-standing, which she remained all the way up until she joined dad's administration and all her former friends in the media suddenly decided that she's always been a Nazi.
Powerful? All powerful jeff? Because it doesn’t seem like. Seems like connected to the left leaning deep state. Trump, gen Flynn, multiple conservative politicians, etc.
But please go on with your diatribe.
As Jack Prosobiac has stated it is no longer two tiered but 3 tiered. The 3rd tier being against political enemies. But you love that tier.
Your example is a literal example of said third tier of justice. A far left political AG going after political enemies.
Whoosh!
The point is about differential treatment by the media, not the government (though the collusion between these "two entities" does make it difficult to distinguish)
Besides being a pathological liar, Jeffy’s also quite dim.
But he did spend last night at a Holiday Inn.
But Jeffy wasn't smart enough to spend that night at a Holiday Inn Express.
The second I saw the spiked link, I knew Jeff would be triggered to respond. Brendan O’Neil makes him sooooo angry.
If the feds won't, the locals will.
https://www.thecentersquare.com/national/article_1d279390-1123-11ee-9d81-73e4b5c27d63.html
Following through on a pledge he made during his first border security summit in Arizona and ahead of his next border trip to Texas on Monday, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis on Thursday announced the creation of a new national coalition of sheriffs committed to working together to combat crime stemming from the border crisis.
More than 90 sheriffs from 24 states are part of the coalition. Notably absent from the list are Texas border sheriffs who’ve been combating border-related crime for years.
Participants in the coalition include sheriffs from Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Iowa, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia, South Dakota, and Wisconsin.
“The consequences of the federal government’s abdication are being felt across the nation. Cartels and gang members are bringing record levels of fentanyl and other drugs into our communities as our officers work around the clock to battle these criminal institutions. As Sheriffs, we are thankful that Florida has recognized the crisis at our border and we are partnering with the Sunshine State to bring law and order back to our streets.
“It is unfortunate that the federal government has effectively abandoned border states … We can no longer sit by and watch our nation become overrun by gang activity and drug-related violence.”
Hmm, organizing the counties for the next secession?
Housing gets cheaper, but rates are up.
https://www.thecentersquare.com/national/article_1d1cd380-1117-11ee-9eff-ef858d45d35c.html
The median existing-home price for all housing types declined 3.1% in May from the same month in the prior year – the biggest drop in more than a decade.
The national median existing-home price was $396,100 in May, down 3.1% from $408,600 in May 2022, the National Association of Realtors said.
Existing-home sales increased 0.2% from April, but year-over-year sales dropped 20.4%.
Housing inventory remains tight for existing homes, but new construction is a different story.
"Available inventory strongly impacts home sales, too," Yun said. "Newly constructed homes are selling at a pace reminiscent of pre-pandemic times because of abundant inventory in that sector. However, existing-home sales activity is down sizably due to the current supply being roughly half the level of 2019."
BUT ZONING!
"That means that all transgender Floridians who qualify for Medicaid should now be able to seek coverage of their gender-affirming care."
Serious question: Is there such a thing as "race-affirming care"? For example, why should so-called Asian double eyelid surgery be considered elective cosmetic surgery if the person's deeply-felt body image requires it?
Don't forget trans-titty affirming care with paid for breast augmentation.
No need for the trans aspect. It's "buxom-affirming care".
Upper chest mound-like fatty tissue-affirming care.
When people decide to turn to guns for this, people like ENB will be stunned.
Conservative opposition to transgenderism claims to be based on truly caring about their well-being and not wanting them to permanently mutilate themselves. So, you’re saying conservatives care so deeply about the well-being of transgender people that they are going to turn to using guns to fight the transgender people. Got it.
The opposition also includes asking the taxpayers to pay for it.
Strangely, it doesn't become as urgent an amount of 'care' when the gender confused want to go back.
https://www.themainewire.com/2023/06/maine-house-democrats-block-bill-to-fund-detransition-healthcare-for-transgender-people/
Disingenuous cunt.
Notice that Mike is executing the Liarson Maneuver here.
He doesn't want to talk about how incorrect transgenderism is, or the double standards at play in what the government will pay for. He wants us to argue about whether his uncharitable strawman of "what conservatives actually think" is correct or not.
Mike thinks his trolling is subtle and clever. It is not.
'X thinks his trolling is subtle and clever.' This applies broadly to many left-leaning/progressive sorts, and too many center and right-leaning types. Call it a societal problem. It also extends beyond trolling to all discussion, thinking, and argument. Just saying, fuckwit isn't alone, but he (?) is still an obvious & pathetic dunce.
They care about children dramatically more than they care about mentally ill adults.
Note: Nobody gives the first iota of a shit about drag shows for adults or drag time story hour for adults. Bring kids in and, well, it's on.
You just switched from a debate about "gender-affirming" care to complaining about drag shows. You do realize that a man who dresses in drag is a person who has not had surgery to mulilate himself.
The guns will come out when someone loses custody of their children, because they refused to let one of thier children have surgery or drugs.
And that might make some sense, someone losing it in a custodial fight concerning their own child. That’s quite different than a right-wing hothead shooting people over an abstraction that isn’t actually affecting his family.
You're the only one who read damiksec's comment as saying anything about "a right-wing hothead shooting people over an abstraction." It's not "abstractions" that concern people here. You're an idiot.
Ignoring you.
And as Jeff happily defends it, he wants taxpayers to fund elective surgeries.
The one true libertarian.
Don't forget all the state-funded and administered programs to promote transgender virtue and encourage susceptible kids to enroll against their parents wishes.
Protecting women's rights and women's sports.
https://www.thecentersquare.com/national/article_adaa42c2-1129-11ee-b70b-772ff02927f4.html
Athletes and congressional members continued their fight this week to protect women's sports from encroachment by biological males identifying as transgender, and from the Biden administration’s work to rewrite Title IX.
In a Thursday morning press conference outside the nation's Capital, U.S. Reps. Nancy Mace, R-S.C., Ralph Norman, R-S.C., Mary Miller, R-Ill., and Burgess Owens, R-Utah, joined a group that included collegiate swimmers Riley Gaines and Paula Scanlan, and Payton McNabb, the high school volleyball player from North Carolina injured in competition by a transgender female’s [ed-man's] spike that hit her in the head.
McNabb, a recent graduate of Hiwassee Dam High in Murphy, was struck in the head by a volleyball on Sept. 1. She said she was always aware of the possibility of injury, but the ball hit by a biological male “was different.” She was rendered unconscious. Today, she still has partial paralysis on her right side, and says she deals with cognitive issues and headaches.
“This was 100% avoidable if female athletes had not been exploited,” she said. “If the adults in the room don’t start standing up and putting an end to the threat to females, there won’t be women’s sports.”
Gaines appeared before a congressional committee on Wednesday to testify. She was clear to say she does not have a problem with transgender people, or even Lia Thomas, the swimmer who is biologically male and was not only allowed to compete against women but also to undress in a locker room Gaines said an NCAA representative told her was changed from "women's" to "unisex."
“My problem is with the NCAA,” Gaines answered a question from Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah. “My problem is the Biden administration pushing a rewrite of Title IX. That is my problem. That’s why I’m here.”
For Scanlan, she was Thomas’ teammate. This after Thomas had competed for three years at Penn on the men’s team. Scanlan says the university advised her and her teammates not to speak out about the situation, advising they would regret it.
“It’s important to shed light on administrators, universities, and athletic governing bodies that are working against women, just erasing us,” Scanlan said.
Plus the biological science, as Gaines' T-shirt read, XX does not equal XY – the sex determination chromosomes of women and men, respectively.
Sex-segregated teams are a type of sex-based affirmative action for women.
For almost any sport, if one is to field two teams of athletes, about 99% of the spots on those teams would go to men. But, instead, when one of those teams is restricted to be women-only, the more capable (in general) male athletes are dumped in favor of less capable (in general) female athletes. And like with race-based affirmative action, this type of quota system harms the marginal male athlete who is competitive, but not elite enough to earn a top spot, and instead has his spot taken away in favor of a woman of lesser athletic ability who is chosen solely because she has a vagina.
And this is true regardless of any transgender athlete controversy.
So if this is what you support, then you should state clearly that this is what you favor.
Oh FFS, Jeffy, how retarded are you? How much of a science-denier are you to deny biological reality?
"Deny biological reality"? You mean, like when I wrote this?
For almost any sport, if one is to field two teams of athletes, about 99% of the spots on those teams would go to men.
Do you have a substantive comment in response?
And yet, Jeffy, "Sex-segregated teams are a type of sex-based affirmative action for women." Followed by "And like with race-based affirmative action, this type of quota system harms the marginal male athlete who is competitive, but not elite enough to earn a top spot, and instead has his spot taken away in favor of a woman of lesser athletic ability who is chosen solely because she has a vagina."
So it's some sort of "affirmative action" to separate the teams by sex due to sex-related differences in strength and muscle mass? And the separation between the sexes harms men who don't have as much athletic ability or training? Utterly full of crappola there, Jeffy.
It is AA to segregate teams by sex FIRST, and THEN choose athletes according to athletic ability.
Just like it was AA for Biden to declare that he was going to choose a Black woman justice FIRST, and THEN choose among all the Black women judges whom he would nominate.
Your sophist arguments are getting worse and worse. You have turned on the post modernist garden hose and just gulp it all down don't you.
Jeffy is about as bad as Tony in this regard. It's all postmodernist turdles all the way down.
Plus a non-so-subtle hatred for women.
Jeffy is a fucking idiot presenting yet another false dichotomy.
if one is to field two teams of athletes, about 99% of the spots on those teams would go to men
First, most premier teams are not segregated by sex. jeffy has been told this many times and yet continues in his gaslighting. Women have been fielded as kickers on premier college football teams and many compete in high school boys sports where there are not enough girls to field a team.
Second, there is no limit on the number of teams that can be fielded. Colleges also have intermural teams, club teams and casual teams. It is virtually guaranteed that transwomen who don't make the premier team can still compete in sport.
If they can still compete, why insist on competing against XX women except to take advantage of their anatomy? They have set collegiate records in swimming and track, while I can't find a single reference to a transwoman competing in women's gymnastics. Perhaps the balance beam routine is a little too brutal on the junk?
Holy shit, I think Jeff may have just set a new personal best for completely fucking retarded takes. And that was a high bar.
Got it. Around here, I have taken the phrase "that's a completely fucking retarded take" to mean "that's a very good point that I cannot rebut logically so that means the only way I can respond is through mockery".
Jeffy, as I said previously, I've seen stupid before, and then there's you. You manage to make pretzel logic seem linear. You manage to make Sqrlsy seem sane in his arguments here, and that really takes some work. Even Mike Laursen can't compete with your double-speak.
This makes the whole "bears in trunks" look good. It's really amazing how you think separating weight classes isn't affirmative action yet separating sexes (which are different in weight, size, and muscle mass) is affirmative action. Please, explain to the crowd here how that is possible when both weight classes and sex separation are done for the exact same types of reasons.
You are being mocked for continuing to argue in bad faith. And that mockery is even more well deserved when you start whining about being mocked instead of demonstrating a better argument. Your back-up bitch Sarc does the same thing.
I called you out for your false dichotomy an hour ago before this post and you ignore it because you can't refute it. There are always more than 2 teams. Transwomen are competing against only women because they win when their opponents are only women despite the fact that they can compete in a diversity of ways in the same sport. But competing fairly will not get them notoriety and attention.
Saying "well they can just play on the intramural team" misses the entire point of the controversy. The reason why these athletes want to play on the most competitive teams is because the stakes are much higher at that level of competition. Athletes get scholarships, NIL rights, etc. Nobody gets a scholarship or NIL rights for playing on an intramural team.
Ever heard of academic scholarships, dip? Some of us here went to college on those.
And some go to college on athletic scholarships.
Nobody gets a scholarship or NIL rights for playing on an intramural team.
Yes. That would be a corollary to my argument.
So I didn't miss what you seem to think is the point of the controversy at all. That transwomen want scholarships and endorsements that would otherwise go to women because they can't compete with men. You seem to be arguing that that is fair against everybody else arguing that it is inherently unfair.
But you present a false dichotomy. Transwomen can, and do, get scholarships and endorsements without competing with women and there are other avenues for them to play competitive sports.
The intention of the legislation being passed is not to exclude them from anything other than women's teams, for which they should not qualify as they are not women.
https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1672259071460663298?t=MnQmn2B7x-0J4R0lVBTGKQ&s=19
Stacie Marie Laughton is the first trans state representative in the US
Laughton was just arrested for distributing images of child sex abuse
The pattern is becoming more apparent.
Kiddie diddling and mass shootings is the trannie mantra.
But hey, they are not mentally ill.
Jo Acker is a perfect example of one of these crazy transgender mass murderers, and right in your home state!
https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/community/boise/article266196671.html
Oh, wait ... this just in ... Jo Acker was a transgender security guard who tried to stop a mass shooter. Huh ... that doesn't fit the narrative at all...
Mike Liarson strikes again.
Police investigations into the matter detail the minute-by-minute events on the afternoon of Oct. 25, and how a chance encounter with 26-year-old security guard Jo Acker, a transgender woman, prompted a man to open fire on her.
Chance encounter; Mikey.
Tranny did nothing proactive to stop the shooting. You imagined the entire event.
The tranny status of the security guard is completely irrelevant to the story, yet the Statesman included it, and you fantasized about a nonexistent hero tranny.
You got me. I mistated Jo Acker's active involvement in trying to stop the shooter, since the shooter killed Acker before he had a chance to do his job, which was being the mall's security guard. You know, a job where one protects people.
Now, I assume you will concede that I am correct that the mass shooter, who by all accounts was not transgender, shot a transgender security guard. The transgender security guard was the good guy in this scenario and the non-transgender person was the crazy bad guy.
Your whole fucking purpose for the post in the first place was to be a disingenuous cunt, and it turns out you were even more disingenuous than you thought.
Selfless heroics (selflessness of any kind, really) isn’t a trending pattern of behavior in the trans population. Comorbidity of autogynephilia and/or gender dysphoria with pedophilia is, however, something to look into. We already know of their comorbidity with autism spectrum disorder.
Progressives go back and forth between considering “gender-affirming care” a spiritual journey toward finally realizing one’s inner, authentically gendered self, and also talking about it as a treatment for mental illness—a radical cure for a radically disordered self-concept, to alter a person’s objective reality to match their subjective feelings, addressing delusion by trying to force bodily and social realities to correspond with it, as if there were no other therapies available, conceivable, or desirable. What's being pushed is gender alchemy: half-medical, half-mystical, ideologically driven psychiatric malpractice.
Surprising absolutely nobody.
Long history of crimes and mental outbursts. But a hero none-the-less.
Brave and courageous.
It is indubitably brave and courageous... To be compassionate with the wombs of OTHER PEOPLE!
Liberals... Compassionate with the money of other people!
Cuntservaturds and other people with Magic Underwear... Compassionate with the wombs of other people!
And very concerned about the welfare of that baby, right up to the moment of its birth, at which point they stop giving a shit about its fate.
It cannot be AA if the teams are not from the same pool.
AA is bad because we are all in the same pool. It's the promotion of a subset out of all subsets. Sex segregated sports begin from the premise that not all sets are equal.
Well of course, if you start with the premise that the teams must be segregated in the first place, then it's not AA to segregate the teams. That is called circular logic.
There's nothing circular about it.
Humans are not, nor have they ever been equal
That's not what circular logic is.
Lmao, keep going Lying Jeffy, you’re nearing bears in trunks territory!
The bear is in the trunk, leaves to maul someone and then returns to the trunk, unbeknownst to the driver.
The circle is complete.
Dude, no. I think Jeff topped bears in trunks with this one. Arguing that sex segregation of sports is affirmative action that harms inferior male players. That's epically retarded.
He just basically admitted that these trans athletes only want to compete as females because they can't compete as males because of lack of talent.
Some might, sure. When the stakes are that high, I can't really fault them for trying.
And if the stakes are that high, Jeffy, do you really think they'll make it in the typical professional league against men who've competed as men in the college and lower men's leagues if they lack the talent to be in the men's leagues in college or other lower leagues?
Your argument is rubbish.
Lots of college athletes never go pro. Lots of college athletes use the opportunity of monetizing their athletic ability to get a free college education and to launch a career that is outside competitive sports. Furthermore, while in college, athletes can now monetize their NIL rights sometimes for very big bucks.
Most athletic scholarships aren't worth much, Jeffy, and your premise is removing scholarships from women who should have them as per Title IX and giving them to men who should try for an academic scholarship instead.
Most athletic scholarships aren’t worth much
Easy for you to say, but the scholarships sure mean a lot to the people receiving them.
As to Title IX, that is an entirely different discussion. I question whether it ought to exist at all.
Sex-segregated teams are a type of sex-based affirmative action for women.
Incorrect. I'm going to let you take a minute to figure out why.
Why don't you present your argument against my position.
Your position was meaningless and full of post modernist shifts of baseline truths. Your typical sea lion rant where you force others to argue basic facts in order to push your argument.
so you couldnt figure it out eh?
your analogy is way off base.
sex-based affirmative action for women in sports would entail allowing them to play on the men's teams even though they cant perform at that level. That's what affirmative action is. Granting individuals people positions and rewards they wouldnt otherwise qualify for, but giving it to them anyway due to inherent characteristics such as sex skin color.
No female will ever play on an NFL team outside of gimmickry. Ever. It would require sex-based affirmative action to make that happen.
Hope this helps.
Once again, if you start with the premise that teams must be segregated by sex, then yes of course you're right. I'm saying, don't start with that assumption. Instead, start with the assumption that there will simply be two teams of athletes regardless of sex, and then populate those teams with the best athletes for that sport. If you count the men and women on those teams, 99+% of them will be men. That would be how you would form two teams in a solely meritocratic way.
Now, suppose someone comes in and says "wait, one of those teams must now be only female". The result of this is that a lot of male athletes lose their positions on the team in favor of less qualified female athletes simply because they have vaginas. That is sex-based affirmative action.
If the goal were to have two teams with the best athletes, there wouldn't be hardly any women on the teams. But that is not the goal apparently. The goal is to have one team with the best athletes, and one team for women. Harsh but mostly true.
But like any affirmative action scheme, it harms that marginal person, in this case the marginal male athlete who is not competitive enough to be at the very top, but still of high caliber.
And let's be real here, for athletics at the collegiate level and now sometimes at the highschool level, there are real stakes involved. There is real money on the line, there are life-changing opportunities involved. This isn't just an academic exercise or just about character building via team sport. So it is not terribly surprising that some male athletes can see through the injustice of this scheme and find ways around it.
So you support dudes pretending to be chicks if there’s money involved?
Jeffy just outed himself as a misogynist today.
Scratch a proggirs, you will find that they almost always are the true racist, homophobes, misogynists etc they accuse everyone else of being.
I thought progressives care about equity.
Sex-segregated teams are equitable. Males and females are radically different categories of athletes, and having males intrude in female competitive sports is inequitable. There’s a reason why we don't see women pumped full of androgens competing physically with men. They can't, but men on estrogen still dominate.
The only way this would 'help' is if sophistJeff were capable of examining his opinions, positions, and considering information that may run counter to them. He(?) would also need to allow that he may hold views based on falsehoods, and is thus incorrect -wrong although he presents him(?)self as an arbiter of truth. He (?) has not demonstrated this level of intellectual maturity thus far.
examining his opinions, positions, and considering information that may run counter to them.
I do that.
He(?) would also need to allow that he may hold views based on falsehoods
It's true, I might. If you point them out then maybe I can correct those falsehoods. But I'm not just going to take your word for it, you'll have to present convincing proof.
he presents him(?)self as an arbiter of truth
I have never presented myself as "an arbiter of truth". That is entirely in your own head.
And thanks for implicitly asking about my preferred pronouns. They are indeed he/him.
Good to know, but are you even aware of the preferred pronouns of the bear in your trunk? Hmmm?
Lol.
"For almost any sport, if one is to field two teams of athletes, about 99% of the spots on those teams would go to men."
While I am glad that you finally have acknowledged this fact, it is pretty wild that you now consider it an argument in your favor. Let's remember that previously, you were arguing that there was some middle ground or construction of sports that would allow women to compete alongside men. This is progress.
"And like with race-based affirmative action, this type of quota system harms the marginal male athlete who is competitive,"
This is an acknowledged factor of many sports.
For example, wrestling has baked in affirmative action for smaller people. It is a simple fact that if there weren't weight classes, wrestling would be dominated by people at the highest weight classes. But because wrestling teams must field multiple weight classes, it means that many heavy-weight wrestlers who are good-but-not-elite will be cut from the team to make space for smaller competitors.
"So if this is what you support, then you should state clearly that this is what you favor."
I don't think that this follows at all. But are you willing to support the opposite- that sports in the US should be relegated solely by raw ability, even if that means only 1% of female athletes will be afforded the ability to compete?
Weight classes for wrestling is not "affirmative action", it is choosing categories of fair competition based on a measure of athletic ability. Segregating sports by sex is a type of affirmative action because it is separating competitors regardless of athletic ability by their sex.
Then, if weight classes are not "affirmative action", then sex separation due to size, strength, and muscle mass is also not "affirmative action". You can't have it both ways, Jeffy.
But it's not "sex separation due to size, strength and muscle mass". It is just plain "sex separation". The best female athlete must play on the women's team even if that athlete would be good enough to qualify for the men's team, and a mid-level male athlete cannot play on the women's team even if that athlete would be good enough to qualify for the women's team. That is what makes it affirmative action by sex.
Oh, bullshit, Jeffy. The main reason for the sex separation is the sexual dimorphism we as humans (and most other placental mammals*) have. That dimorphism means women (aka females) have less weight, less size, and less muscle mass than men (aka males), even if they are the same height. They get given separate rankings due to their size/mass/weight differences, no different than separate weight classes within the male and female subdivisions. Affirmative action, my ass.
*This is due to the fact that one sex, female, carries the young to term, gives live birth instead of eggs (montremes, birds, most reptiles, amphibians) or smaller live births (marsupials), and nurses them with milk until weening.
Fine – then let’s try this. Eliminate sex segregation entirely, and classify athletes solely on athletic ability. Use whatever objective metrics you wish to assess this, but not biological sex. If, in the end, the result is exactly the same, then why not do that? Furthermore, if we do that, there is no controversy about where trans athletes go – because they are not being judged by their biological sex, but instead by their athletic ability. So they get to compete against whomever offers the fairest competition, regardless of sex. What do you say?
I predict you will reject this and then try to bring in some other reason for sex-segregated sports, like "sex-based team building" or something.
Why? Because you are in a cult that must put transgender bullshit above everyone else?
OK, let’s play your game here and remove sex segregation completely. This means that the Lia Thomases of sports still get moved into the higher weight classes due to size/weight/muscle mass and will have to complete with similarly sized biological males. It would still remove him (yes, him) from competing against Riley Gaines as she does not have his size/weight/muscle mass, and she would be competing in a different weight class altogether. The outcome is still the same.
OK, let’s play your game here and remove sex segregation completely. This means that the Lia Thomases of sports still get moved into the higher weight classes due to size/weight/muscle mass and will have to complete with similarly sized biological males.
That's right. That is the outcome you want, right? Isn't that the fairest competition here?
The point is, though, that Lia Thomas still gets to compete, and there is no controversy over "which team", because the sex segregation of teams is gone. Athletes are judged by athletic ability instead. Isn't that the ultimate goal here?
Thomas would still compete as a male on an intramural squad as he is not talented enough to play with the other men. He should not be allowed to take away a spot or a scholarship from a woman.
How much of a misogynist are you, Jeffy?
How about this: don't assign scholarships based on sex, but assign scholarships based on a variety of criteria which most heavily emphasizes athletic ability. Sound good to you?
Title IX doesn't work that way, idiot. If we based them on athletic ability only, no women would qualify. The whole point of that part of Title IX was to give women some scholarships. Now, you, Misogynist Jeffy, want to take away some of those scholarships and hand them to men pretending to be women.
If, in the end, the result is exactly the same, then why not do that?
There never will be a result that shows humans are in fact equally capable.
Hence why segregation in sports works. We compare like to like.
Except that’s not true, at all.
What's not true?
“The best female athlete must play on the women’s team even if that athlete would be good enough to qualify for the men’s team…”
As far as I know, there is no rule or law that forbids women from competing on men’s teams.
"As far as I know, there is no rule or law that forbids women from competing on men’s teams."
By and large true as far as I know. In the real world, see what happens of you try to allow women to compete in high school or college make wrestling!
SHITLOADS of rules prevent vice versa! So ChemJeff is correct... All of this crap is "reverse discrimination" in favor of women! WHY can we not just get Government Almighty to BUTT OUT of all sports, totally?
"Weight classes for wrestling is not “affirmative action”, it is choosing categories of fair competition based on a measure of athletic ability."
The presence of a Y chromosome is a larger determinant of "athletic ability" than weight. A man and woman of the same weight will have vastly different athletic performance, and you can predict with 80%+ likelihood that the man will beat the woman. You are twisting in circles to consider two biological attributes (weight and sex) as fundamentally different measures of athletic performance. They are not.
If we were talking about RACE, you might have a point. Race is not a good predictor of athletic ability (largely because Race is not even really a defined attribute).
Christ. These are sports. Games. Purposely designed to allow for fair competition and enjoyment of the participants and the spectators. WTF are you even going on about?
There are real stakes involved though. Real money and real life-changing opportunities associated with collegiate sports and, in turn, some highschool sports.
Um, there's no real money with high school sports. There are scholarships that can be attained to enter college, but your whole premise violates Title IX as women are supposed to get about half of them (which is why colleges do not either field men's teams in some sports or limit the number of men's athletic scholarships, but that's a different debate).
LOL where do you think the NCAA D1 athletes come from? They come from highschools with premier athletic programs. These things cost money.
The point is, this controversy over sports is not just some academic exercise. It is a real issue that goes beyond just "fairness for women" or "trans rights". There are large amounts of dollars involved.
So you think scholarships should be taken from talented biological women to be given to mediocre biological males? How misogynistic are you, Jeffy? It really sounds like you hate women for some reason.
Incel jeff. Guaranteed.
He admitted he’s fat, and he clearly wants to groom children. Definitely lacks a healthy sex life.
I like that one, “inceljeff retarded misogynist”.
Sharron Davies explains, in detail, why your argument falls flat.
Skimming through the transcript (thanks for the tip btw), this doesn't address my argument, it is instead a softball interview by Brendan O'Neill with this supposed victim of unfair competition with trans athletes. So spare me this raw emotional appeal and let me know when either Brendan or you get to a real intellectual argument on the matter.
“This was 100% avoidable if female athletes had not been exploited,” she said. “If the adults in the room don’t start standing up and putting an end to the threat to females, there won’t be women’s sports.”
Fascist MAGA bigot just has to accept a new definition for "woman".
It’s a promethean transformation man, just accept it. We accepted that black people are human, why can’t we accept that Dylan Mulvaney is 100% woman? He acts like one. If it walks like a bitch, and it quacks like a bitch, it's a bitch. It’s literally the same thing, man.
'Gillespie really seemed to think his 'promethean transformation' line was clever. There is no comparison between say, giving fire to humans and any of the silly and generally made-up bullshit as he so clearly wants to believe. Courtesy is one matter, as has been said, but use of government force to bring about this transformation is neither Promethean nor libertarian.
Did we even listen to the same podcast?
He is clearly referencing the idea of an individual undergoing a titanic act of will to remake him/herself into a completely new person.
God save the queen!
(I think I may have figured out what Biden was talking about.)
Rewarding the loyal but incompetent and stupid.
https://summit.news/2023/06/23/biden-admin-rewards-school-lockdown-champion-with-homeland-security-role/
The Biden administration has appointed the person who pushed hardest for schools to remain closed during the pandemic to a new position within the Department of Homeland Security.
As Fox News reports, Randi Weingarten, the controversial head of the American Federation of Teachers union, will be one of the new members of a Homeland Security Academic Partnership Council.
Weingarten recently attempted to rewrite history, claiming that she spent every waking day during the pandemic trying to open schools, despite the fact that her union aggressively pushed for lockdowns at the local level, and lobbied to keep them in place.
Weingarten is apparently being rewarded for falling into line with the administration and championing the policy that has done untold damage to a generation of young people.
Is that the propaganda outfit that teaches "big brother good"?
Homeland Security Academic Partnership Council
Terrifying. I look forward to Reason criticizing the creation of this council.
For compulsively compassionate equity activists, incompetence and stupidity are virtues.
As Fox News reports, Randi Weingarten, the controversial head of the American Federation of Teachers union, will be one of the new members of a Homeland Security Academic Partnership Council.
It's a perfect place for her, when you think about it.
How to kill a brand.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/twitterverse-roasts-bud-light-over-new-ad-mocking-its-own-customers
Like an imbecile in an old slapstick show who goes from banging his head to stepping on a rake, Bud Light on Thursday broke two months of post-Dylan Mulvaney silence on Twitter...with an ad mocking its core customers.
The latest display of self-destructive marketing comes on the heels of the brand posting the worst weekly sales drop since Harvard-educated Bud Light marketing VP Alissa Heinerscheid thought it would be a great idea to use clownish, male-to-female trans TikTok star Dylan Mulvaney as a brand ambassador for what's long been seen as a manly beer for hard-working, blue-collar people. In the week ending June 10, sales were off 26.8% off the previous year's pace.
The brand dared to return to Twitter on Thursday with the promised summer advertising...and was instantly on the receiving end of a social media flamethrower. Users roasted the company for its Dylan Mulvaney move and the new campaign too.
In just a one-minute ad, Bud Light drinkers are shown being too stupid to put on shoes before walking across hot pavement, too dumb to put on shoes before carrying a full keg across rocks, trying to slam shut an obviously overfilled refrigerator, sun-burning the outline of a cell phone on their stomach, ineptly trying to balance on a paddle board, walking through a closed screen door and dropping a tray of snacks, clumsily flipping out of a hammock and failing to tap a keg and getting sprayed with foam.
The phenomenon is robust enough to provide a steady stream of material for a Twitter account called "White Men Are Stupid In Commercials" (@StupidWhiteAds), which naturally jumped on the Bud Light ad:
See, I don't understand this. Companies all the time use different advertising strategies to appeal to different demographics. Do the hardcore Bud Light drinkers think that every advertisement for Bud Light must appeal only and exclusively *to them*? That the company can't create an advertisement that appeals to other demographics at all?
They can do whatever they want and then face the consequences. A smart advertising campaign won't alienate any of their customers. Failing that, you probably shouldn't annoy your largest customer base.
I just think it's arrogant to expect that *every* advertising campaign for a product must be directed towards one's self.
Jeffy, I've met stupid in my time, and you, you're a special kind of stupid. Very wordy to say not much at all, and you obviously have the reading comprehension of a sea slug. Here's what Zeb said so succinctly and clearly:
A smart advertising campaign won’t alienate any of their customers. Failing that, you probably shouldn’t annoy your largest customer base.
AB went ahead and did exactly that with their biggest brand, Bud Light. They alienated their core customers and pissed off their largest customer base. They continue to do so in their current campaign. They basically violated rule number one of advertising.
They alienated their core customers and pissed off their largest customer base.
But why? That is what I truly don't understand. That advertising campaign was not directed at them and was not intended for them. It was only for a small niche audience, which is probably why it consisted of just a few TikTok videos and not the professional glitzy ads like the one with horses running on the beach, or something.
If a cereal company has a marketing campaign directed towards children, I am not offended because the ad isn't targeted towards me. I understand that the ad is not intended for me, it's intended for kids (and their parents).
So I don't understand why a very-low-budget ad campaign which was directed towards LGBTQ folks pissed off a bunch of non-LGBTQ folks when they weren't even the intended audience for it.
Because we are sick and tired of EVERYTHING having to revolve around trannies (let's be honest...T is the only letter that is an issue, specifically men pretending to be women). Fuck trannies.
If you do not get that, nothing will ever enlighten you.
This goes well with your previous comment about going to guns to fight trannies. What happened to the pretense that conservatives care about transgender people and want to stop them from mutilating themselves? Now it is “fuck trannies”.
Disingenuous cunt.
OT: What is an ingenuous cunt?
A virgin?
Continue forcing your bullshit down others throats and stuff will turn ugly.
FAFO
All I ask is that conservatives who don’t really give a shit about transgender people stop wrapping themselves in the pretense that they do.
Your mask is clearly off.
And, by the way, I haven’t forced anything on anyone.
Whatever, White Knight.
They do care about little kids being brainwashed and worse. I’ve seen very few fucks given over mentally ill adults fucking themselves up.
I don’t care about who’s sockpuppeting or fifty centing, but are you and Jeff the same person?
So in your case, it's just simple bigotry then. Got it.
No. Demanding the English language change because a few mentally ill people demand it is asinine. Fuck that.
The English language has encompassed the idea, for a very long time now, that both the word "man" and "woman" refer not just to biological sex, but also social conventions.
That is why the question you asked me, "what does 'feel like a woman' mean?", was a trap question. You very well know there is not one single correct answer. Anyone who tries to give a single concrete answer can be criticized for not giving any of the other equally valid answers to that question.
Oh, for fuck's sake, inceljeff, the terms "man" and "woman" have been used to refer to each sex as well as "man" to refer to humanity as a whole.
It was the last straw. Corporate America and the gov have been shoving trannie bullshit onto everyone 24/7. AB thought they'd jump on the trendy woke bandwagon at a time when blue collar America is fucking done.
Timing matters.
LyingJeffy also ignores the statement from the executive who made this decision. That's what pissed me off, not the Dylvany thing but her stated reasoning, which was pure hubris and elitism. I'm tired of upper class white women who think they need to lecture blue collar folks on how to be better humans. Take your wine drinking, soccer mom, bored stepford wife self and jump off a cliff and do the world a favor bitch.
Don't forget the first CEO message in response to the controversy. He threw gas onto the fire too. Like when Gillette started pushing man shaming ads out.
I don't shave, because I'm a man, but if I did I would never buy from Gillette. Ever. There has to be another razor manufacturer. Same with a lot of companies I want to limit my contact with.
This is how fucking stupid and ideological it has become. It's pure dogma, and those who keep repeating the dogmatic buzzwords can't even grasp how horribly offensive they are being. To them, the middle aged white male isn't even a human, they completely lack empathy.
Yeah, I don't need to give money to some private company so I can be treated with contempt. That's what the government's for.
Harry's makes a good razor at about a tenth of the cost of a Gillette. So does Dollar Shaving Club.
I use Bic myself. They work as well as Gillette, and are a lot cheaper.
Try reading this and then watch the short video.
This is her.
A middle aged, upper income highly educated white woman with three children, all born from surrogates, explains how her worldview, everyone needs their safe space to find their best identity, shapes her brand representation.
And what she said about the previous marketing.
Fratty, out of touch humor
The marketing style that built the loyal base of customers.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/04/09/now-this-makes-sense-marketing-vp-alissa-heinerscheid-explains-why-she-made-bud-light-the-brand-for-woke-transvestites/
I love that you quote Conservative Treehouse, a right-wing website that has about as much credibility as breitbart.com or dumpsterfire.com.
From the video, she claims that the brand was in decline and that she was brought in to reverse that decline, and she decided to do that by trying to appeal to a broader audience. I honestly don't find that video to be objectionable at all.
Well, if the brand wasn't in decline before, it sure as hell is now.
You can get the same video where she insults her customer base on a liberal site too if you want. The result is the same. The appeal to a broader base wasn’t the issue either, it was the insult to the current base, a large buying and consuming base.
A decade from now or so, this will be seen as worse than New Coke for tone deafness.
Sorry he couldn't find a huffpo article praising dark Brandon yo use.
That’s a nice ad hominem there.
And by the way, this “I just don’t understand” schtick is silly. It is a culture war.
But just for reference- are you equally perplexed by the people who say we should boycott Harry Potter? Shouldn’t those people leave off from JK Rowling? After all why should all these trans activists expect that she market SOLELY to their point of view?
JK Rowling was not trying to market Harry Potter books to TERFs by objecting to transgendered people.
It's utterly stunning how you manage to completely and totally miss the point of the comment, Jeffy. Like I said previously, your reading comprehension rivals that of a sea slug.
The two cases are completely not comparable, and Overt is just engaging in his usual schtick of trying to generate a gotcha moment for his dossier. I'm not going to fall for it.
Right, Jeffy. You still missed Overt's point.
Any two things are comparable, Lying Jeffy.
It doesn't matter what JK Rowling was "marketing". People were upset about a communication that JK Rowling made. Isn't it arrogant for those people to believe that JK Rowling ought to only make communications they agree with?
Jesus fucking Christ, Jeff.
It wasn’t the ad or the association. (At least for most people). It was the head of marketing mocking the people who drink that swill on video. She didn’t just want to appeal to a new group of people with shitty taste in beer, she wanted to distance the brand from its core customers.
You know this. Stop derailing threads. You’re a bitch.
Always remember, Jeff is only here to fuck up the actual conversations.
To confess, I kind of baited him with the articles I linked today. He bought it, hook, line, and sinker to show off what a dweeb he really is.
right – as if you don’t typically post several articles daily from right-wing sources
But, these were special and right up your ignorant alley. And how are some "right-wing sources"? The Center Square was started by libertarians in Illinois and routinely criticizes both R and D, but D has a much more target-rich environment right now. Spiked Online is distinctly libertarian and has libertarians like Brendan O'Neill who has been a Reason contributor in the no-so-distant past. The New York Post can lean right, but they have a very long history (far longer than the NYT), and I tend to choose the interesting and libertarian-oriented articles. The Illinois Policy Institute is libertarian and criticizes those in charge of Illinois (who happen to be Team D right now). Zerohedge trends libertarian, but I only choose articles which are interesting and trend more libertarian.
As you are libertine and not libertarian (not unlike Shrike), it triggers you.
I'm glad you asked about The Center Square.
It is run by the Franklin News Foundation.
Here is the Mission Statement for that foundation:
https://www.franklinnews.org/mission-statement/
I see this a lot at partisan right-wing sites. First the claim that "big media" is "woke" and "biased to the left", and then their claim to stand as an alternative to this, to be "fact-based" and "news you can trust". It is really just a way to smuggle in their right-wing bias under a facade of "fact-based news". And people like you fall for it, evidently.
If you take a look at the op-ed section of Center Square, I count all but one of those are opinions that favor the Right. Does that sound like a balanced, fact-based approach to things?
Spiked Online is distinctly libertarian and has libertarians like Brendan O’Neill who has been a Reason contributor in the no-so-distant past.
Also worth noting that in the context of British politics, O'Neill and his brand of libertarianism are considered center-left, and that he has been known to describe himself as a "libertarian Marxist."
Jeffy, you do realize that progressives/Woke are antithetical to libertarianism by their very authoritarian and totalitarian nature? If you don't, then obviously, you were not, are not, and never will be libertarian. You are a progressive libertine masquerading as a libertarian here in the comment sections.
Your understanding of 'libertarian' and my understanding of 'libertarian' are clearly very different.
My understanding of 'libertarian' is, generally speaking, socially tolerant and fiscally conservative. It also sticks up for the rights of every individual, even the ones who are most hated. That means sticking up for the rights of Nazis, transgendered, bigots, foreigners, criminals, all people. IMO you can't really call yourself a libertarian in good faith if you aren't willing to commit yourself to defending the rights of every single person.
Your understanding of libertarianism is apparently some weird mixture of social conservatism and paranoia, whose main purpose is to "stop the Left", I guess.
And I think there are some ideas presented by progressives that are worthy of consideration by libertarians. For example, issues of criminal justice reform, and issues of racism generally. I appreciate that they are at least considering the issues. I don't favor most of their proposed solutions but I am glad that they are thinking about it. All Team Red wants to do is ignore the issues.
Jeff, your brand of libertarianism is taking the leftist policy and using post modernist reasoning and bullshit to shoe horn it into libertarian thought. You see this in how inconsistent your attempts at principled argument is. You will use both sides of an argument depending on subject to reach the leftist result you already believe in.
See your use of NAP requiring harm but then ignore the harm of sterilization for GAC.
Here’s Lying Jeffy claiming that calling out msm as leftist makes you right wing.
And he’s to stupid to realize that says a lot more about him than it does The Center Square.
But, his(?) 'thought experiments' are really something that fire up the neurons, make one question what one has learned and heard... /sarc
My thought experiments make a 10x more worthwhile contribution to this forum than any of Jesse's rantings or Tulpa's trolling or any of the right-wing circlejerking that goes on here. Even including bears in trunks.
Dude, you topped "bears in trunks" today. So, please tell us how weight classes and sex separation are different affirmative-action-wise when both use weight, size, and muscle mass to define the classes?
Lol.
Please provide an example jeff. I can link to all of your bullshit.
Bears in trunks is legion.
Hahahahahahahahahaha
What "actual conversations"?
Seems to me, if I and a few others weren't here to actually generate a discussion, the "actual conversations" would just be right-wing circle-jerking. Look at what happened today: InsaneTrollLogic posts twelve articles in a row all straight from right-wing sites. It wouldn't be so bad if at least some of the articles were ones that generated thought. But no, they were mostly along the lines of "look at the latest Biden/Left Wing outrage of the day!" It is typical low-quality partisan outrage porn that what passes for most "journalism" nowadays.
If that is the type of thing that you want, then there are plenty of places that will provide a right-wing echo chamber for you. Most of them will happily ban the heretics from their midst so you are free to shout LET'S GO BRANDON as many times as you like in an endless circle jerk.
Why won’t people play my sea lion games asks jeff as he mutes everyone who breaks apart his arguments.
Most of those sites aren’t right wing, no matter how much you wish they were.
This whole conversation today is a prime example of why people call you a leftist.
It seems to me that a lot of trans activism is aimed at "freaking out the squares" so to speak. Even if that isn't the intent, that's how a lot of people perceive it. And people don't like having their buttons pushed like that. It seems like it's been constantly in-your-face for several years now. People get tired of that shit.
I'm all for people being whatever kind of freaks they want to be. Just don't expect everyone to like it or understand it.
"I just think it’s arrogant to expect that *every* advertising campaign for a product must be directed towards one’s self."
This is of course a strawman. No one has said that *every* advertising campaign for a product must be directed towards one's self.
People tend to like products that reflect their values. The vast majority of Americans- and especially Bud Light drinkers- do not think "Celebrating Transgenderism" is a defining value. If your product notifies you front and center that its priorities have shifted to celebrating stuff that matters very little to you, then there is nothing "arrogant" about deciding that you don't want that product any more.
Well, I just come with a default assumption, perhaps too cynical, that all advertising is fake and all corporations are value-free and soulless.
Explained by the ESG adoption that harms profits and resources. But then again all virtue signaling is soulless. As shown by you and Mike.
Odds Lying Jeffy thinks ESG is libertarian?
It's probably pretty good odds inceljeff thinks ESG is libertarian.
“I just think it’s arrogant to expect that *every* advertising campaign for a product must be directed towards one’s self.” Odd that this argument doesn't crop up when the 'representation in marketing/media/entertainment' emotive horseshit spins up. Or when the glowing reviews of X popular culture product including breathless quotes from population groups thrilled to see themselves 'represented' are cascading throughout news media.
But the two situations are generally not the same.
In the case of Bud Light, you have an advertising campaign that is directed specifically towards one demographic, which evidently got everyone else upset even though they weren't the ones targeted by the campaign.
In these other cases, you have advertising campaigns, or movies, or TV shows, or other mass media products, that are typically directed AT EVERYONE as the target audience. So if your target audience is everyone, then it would be more understandable to make it such that everyone feels represented in the product and can therefore better relate to it.
I just think it’s arrogant to expect that *every* advertising campaign for a product must be directed towards one’s self.
*eyebrows raised*
Something something movies and tv need to look more like their audiences something.
Within reason, sure. The marketing dept. should be competent enough to see where the line must be drawn.
Its called learning to read a room. 10 years ago they could have had RuPaul in an ad and no one would care for the most part. But between the woke scolds and the recent trans activism in schools; people aren't in the mood for it.
Ten years ago, RuPaul was pretty entertaining & a lot less cunty about culture war bullshit for the most part.
An audience cannot find a move by a company offensive and decide to not spend their money there? You've never expressed any issues when progs did it.
If the ad campaign kills their business...which it has been doing for months...it is not a good ad campaign.
“See, I don’t understand this.”
And you’ll do everything you need to not to.
We know buddy. We know.
On the plus side, sales of other brands from the same company are up.
Modelo isn't distributed by AnBev in the US.
Interesting. I did drink a Negra Modelo recently while in Mexico. I prefer that style over a lager.
But doesn't InBev still own the brewery in Mexico and profit from the sales even if they don't own the trademark or move it around?
It's all light(beer)-hearted fun until someone brings a hate-speech lawsuit.
Is it safe to store light bears in trunks? Asking for a friend.
Beers are OK to store in your trunk, but never try storing a bear. Bears hate that.
The problem isn't so much that the new ad is calling Bud Light drinkers stupid, though, as it's the fact that whoever is in marketing now thinks Bud Light drinkers are so lowbrow and juvenile in nature that 60 of slapstick is the sort of comedy that will appeal to them and win them back.
Bud Light has always been shit, but historically, it's commercials were pretty funny or clever. Often stupid, yes, but the gags went beyond slapstick.
Bud bowl, Budweiser frogs, real men of genius, Spuds Mackenzie. Yeah they had some pretty iconic ads. And can we forget the Clydesdales ad after 9/11?
And Wassup!! and the funnier What are you doing? with the frattys.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PQogX88yjg
Yep
Real Men of Genius was one of my favorite ad campaigns. I fucking hate their beer, but they’ve had some great advertising.
When I watched that ad, I figured they were trying to be a little too clever.
I think the marketing team was trying to acknowledge their gaffe. "Ever been in that situation where you do something totally stupid and feel completely embarrassed? Yeah....good times...amiright?"
The problem is that they failed to deliver that message very well. I can't figure out if they were trying to say "Hey, you've done stupid things before, too!" or if they just didn't make the connection that having clumsy idiots drink Bud Light would be seen as a commentary on Bud Light Drinkers, instead of a commentary on bud light.
This goes to show why AnBev is getting hammered in the stock market. Investors are pretty sure that the Mulvaney thing wasn't just a one time ordeal- but a symptom of a deeper problem with their marketing and brand- they don't know what they are, who their audience is, and how to deliver a message to them. This newest commercial is evidence that investors on wall street are right: this company is being run very badly.
I mean, it's not like beer advertising is a black art. The basics were covered at the Hey Beer Dan blog.
https://twitter.com/budweiserusa/status/1646958880654516226
I thought the ad above, which they came out with directly after the Mulvaney thing, was supposed to be the one mocking their own customers. I mean, it was so blatantly over the top that I can only assume they thought their customers were dumb enough to forget the whole thing because they saw some horses and farmers.
Clearly the WEF and other elites have decided to kill the Budweiser brand. The question is why?
Proxy murder of all rednecks.
This is going to be a case study for PR people for sure, if it isn't already. I can't recall a fuck up this bad since JC Penny.
This is such an epic fail that I have to assume that this 'Harvard graduate' was let in because of affirmative action or was a legacy. Even if a half way intelligent far left moron had been in the post and assumed their customer base were a bunch of inbred southern hicks and college frat boys it would have been less damaging to the brand. As is, it landed with none of their broad base customers AND as a bonus it also managed to alienate the 'new' customers she thought she was trying to reach.
I hope she ends up in an unemployment line, but I wager she ends up working for some trans-activist group given that nobody that sells actual products will want to touch her with a ten foot pole.
Yet another case of injecting politics into advertising being a poison pill.
Funny thing is one of the most successful comedians for the country, rural population made his entire career are you might be a redneck... Another one was 'here's your sign'. Foxworthy isn't funny to us because he's making fun of others but because too often the joke relates to us. Engval is the same. As is Larry the Cable Guy and Ron White. If not us, someone we care for. We can laugh at them because they aren't talking down to us, but are seen as one of us, making fun of themselves. And we can relate. AB crossed that line, not by making Dylvany a spokesperson but because of their reasoning for it.
Where's Biden, Pritzker, et.al. over this book ban?
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/zelensky-signs-bill-banning-russian-books
In the country's latest blow to free speech, freedom of expression, and ethnic diversity, President Vladimir Zelensky announced Thursday he's signed into effect a new law banning Russian books and publications in Ukraine.
The law blocks any new Russian and Belarusian publications from being imported into the country. "I believe this law is the right decision," Zelensky wrote of the measure.
Yep, definitely defending the tradition of liberalism here.
Just in Ukraine schools, right? I heard that is what "bans" are now.
now THAT's a book ban
The NEA is jealous.
Commentariat pool on when reasonmag staff mention it? I vote never. I will say I am pretty damned biased after the deliberate omissions in coverage on 6 Jan, apologia about covid overreaction, continuing coverage of orangemanbad vs any of the issues biden faces, the insistence that (choose one) elective medical procedures should be paid for with taxpayers $. I could go on, but, suspect the gist is clear.
You must allow the imports from those who are invading your country, killing, raping and torturing your citizens!
What a stupid criticism.
Remind me how banning Tolstoy helps win the war? That's like banning Remarque to get back at those dastardly Nazis.
It doesn't really, other than denying a very small amount of money going back to Russia (taxes) Didn't say it did though.
Its just stupid to criticize a country for banning imports from the nation that is invading them.
Except a lot of Ukrainian citizens are Russian speakers who consider themselves ethnically Russian.
That doesn't change the fact, that's its a stupid criticism. Nations at war, liberal or otherwise, ban imports from their enemies.
It still will piss off an further alienate a significant minority of Ukrainian citizens. If their aim is to retain the Russian speaking parts of the country, then they need to avoid making them feel even less welcome and respected.
They'll need to win the war, first - not a given. Then they can work on reconciliation.
A fact the pro-Ukrainian faction have refused to acknowledge since the beginning of this war.
Ukraine is 100% safe and effective!
There is also a new story out with the FBI assisting Ukraine in not only censoring, but going after Journalists who don't fully support Ukraine.
Speaking of Ukraine and Russia…
Prigozhin – the Wagner Group head and the capo di tutti capo of all the Putin bots here – has said that the Ukraine war is based on lies
And apparently the Russian military is now attacking the Wagner Group. But he says this is not a coup.
Something is going on. Really interesting except to the usual idiots and bots here.
We know you're not interesting, jfree, yet you still insist on existing.
The Prigozhin thing is wild. Won't know anything for a few hours, but you Ukraine bots are fortunate for the distraction from the predictably disastrous counter offensive.
Prigozhin over-stepped, and managed to step in some very serious shit. Putin has deemed it treason. Prigozhin is toast.
Russia is dug in. Dislodging them will take a lot of artillery and time. In the meantime, eastern Ukraine will become a complete wasteland.
What really concerns me is that I don't see a face-saving exit ramp.
Well if I'm a Ukraine bot then at least I need to repeat what Ukraine is saying about what's happening.
Before Feb 24, 2022, it was widely accepted that the Russian army was the 2nd strongest in the world.
Last week, it was widely accepted that the Russian army is the 2nd strongest in Ukraine.
Now, it is widely accepted that the Russian army is the 2nd strongest in Russia.
FBI making work for itself.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fbi-make-work-entrapment-schemes-creating-criminals-order-arrest-them
We’re not dealing with a government that exists to serve its people, protect their liberties and ensure their happiness.
Rather, we are the unfortunate victims of the diabolical machinations of a make-works program carried out on an epic scale whose only purpose is to keep the powers-that-be permanently (and profitably) employed.
Case in point: the FBI.
The government’s henchmen have become the embodiment of how power, once acquired, can be so easily corrupted and abused. Indeed, far from being tough on crime, FBI agents are also among the nation’s most notorious lawbreakers.
Whether the FBI is planting undercover agents in churches, synagogues and mosques; issuing fake emergency letters to gain access to Americans’ phone records; using intimidation tactics to silence Americans who are critical of the government, or persuading impressionable individuals to plot acts of terror and then entrapping them, the overall impression of the nation’s secret police force is that of a well-dressed thug, flexing its muscles and doing the boss’ dirty work.
Clearly, this is not a government agency that appears to understand, let alone respect, the limits of the Constitution.
The demand for hate crimes and rightwing violence severely outpaces supply, so we have to have the government intervene.
We can't lose trust in institutions!!! All Trump's fault!!! - Sarc.
Former FBI agent Steve Friend has pointed out that the heads of the different field offices get bigger bonuses for having more domestic terrorism cases open.
Of course, the most amusing part of this is that the FBI has always been this way and only now are some people figuring it out.
So a judge can be a complete prick but only if he gets someone else to do the dirty work?
RFKDS, or how heresy is worse than apostasy.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-tucker-calls-out-media-hysteria-typhoon-over-rfk-jr
There's never been a candidate for president the media hated more than Robert F Kennedy Jr. You thought that title belonged to Donald Trump, of course it must. But go check the coverage: Trump got a gentle scalp massage by comparison. When he announced when Trump rolled out his presidential campaign in 2015 the New York Times waited until the 17th paragraph of the story to attack him. But as well-known as he is, the paper said at the time Trump is also widely disliked then they cited a poll to back it up. That was the attack on Trump.
Eight years later the Times attacked Bobby Kennedy in the very first sentence of the story: quote
“Robert F Kennedy Jr” the paper declared “announced a presidential campaign on Wednesday built on relitigating covid-19 shutdowns and shaking Americans faith in science?”
Shaking Americans faith in science - imagine if you're an ordinary New York Times subscriber reading that over coffee in your pre-war rent-controlled duplex on Columbus Avenue. You'd think Bobby Kennedy just declared war on the enlightenment: ”my fellow Americans I have come to shake your faith in science. Join me as I drag our nation back to the medieval period.”
At the offices of national public radio in Washington a full-blown Category 5 hysteria typhoon broke out. NPR devoted an entire segment to savaging Kennedy not just as a candidate but as a human being. NPR described him as someone who - for his own perverse reasons - has made “debunked and false and misleading claims that undermine trust in vaccines and who in his spare time provides moral support to crazed extremists Who rally under the banner of what they call Liberty or freedom.”
As Kennedy spoke on the Rogan show, a reporter for vice.com called Anna Merlin was watching. Merlin was so enraged by what she saw that she dashed off an article attacking Joe Rogan's employer for allowing the conversation to take place. “Spotify has stopped even sort of trying to stem Joe Rogan's vaccine misinformation” read the headline. The piece never even described much of what Bobby Kennedy had actually said. Merlin dismissed the entire interview, was “a detailed survey of Kennedy's most dangerously incorrect views a far too extensive list to outline in full.” In other words “we here at vice don't have time to describe all of Bobby Kennedy's lies but trust us they’re lies.”
The Gatekeepers are transparently ridiculous. Everyone can see that. People have started to notice.
We saw it here for a week where they took a break from Trump, Hawley and DeSantis to rail against RFK Jr. in every second article.
It was so blatant that someone from Koch HQ had sent out marching orders on the latest threat to establishment power.
The problem is that there shouldn't be 'faith' in science. Faith is not part of science. Maybe trust, with healthy skepticism (skepticism is a must for good science) but not faith. This is the problem with those who practice scientism. It's not a fucking religion (or shouldn't be).
But the related problem is that most people don't get that, or really have any idea of what science means (or should mean). And the Democrats like it that way, since "science" sounds appealing in supporting their new world religion.
So where is the "science" in opposition to abortion?
QUESTIONS THAT THE FANATICS WON’T EVER ANSWER: What do YOU think that the punishment should be for deliberately killing a fertilized human egg cell? Ditto the punishments for likewise killing a fertilized egg of an ape... A monkey... A rat... An insect... If your Righteous Punishments From on High are DIFFERENT in these cases, then WHY? WHERE do the differences come from? And what gives YOU (or the 51% of the voters) the right to punish the rest of us?
Never, ever, have I gotten any serious answers, when I pose these questions, about what the PUNISHMENTS should be! (Could it be that the fanatics don’t want us to focus on THEIR obsession, which is their smug and self-righteous “punishment boners”?). Also, the unwillingness to answer questions is strongly indicative of authoritarianism. At the root here is the unmistakable attitude of “Because I said so, peons! Do NOT question your Rulers!”
So when advanced space aliens come here, you're ready to blast them to smithereens, obliterate them at will... Because they have no human DNA? Are not now, will never be, human? Or at the very least, you're not willing to codify punishment for any alien-murderers?
Murdering a space alien should be placed in the law books as a crime, pro-actively. And also to make a point to the troglodytes, about this "sacred human DNA" crap! WHERE does the sacredness come from, for cryin' out loud to Government Almighty? (Sensible people often believe that it comes from consciousness or sentience, which animals apparently have to varying degrees, but is beyond our ability to precisely measure or quantify.)
From http://www.churchofsqrls.com/Jesus_Validated/#_Toc117957740 ...
I liked it better when we just laughed people off as kooks. Now everything's an existential crisis, everyone loses their shit, and blasphemers must be silenced by any means necessary.
That tends to happen when you build an entire ethos out of a deck of cards. Any threating wind might blow it over, so you have to keep watch over the entire bullshit construction if you want it to appear solid.
It also tends to happen when people realize fear is the best way to get attention and votes.
How bad do you have to be to get kicked out of a sex club?
https://nypost.com/2023/06/22/hunter-biden-kicked-out-of-sex-club-for-grabbing-womens-asses/
Hunter Biden got kicked out of a private sex club for “grabbing women’s asses” and acting “like a spoiled child,” the founder exclusively told The Post.
The president’s troubled son is “a really bad guy — not a good person. He’s just not,” said Damon Lawner, who founded the notorious SNCTM club, where membership ran as high as $75,000 a year. And Hunter’s $10,000 payment led to Lawner receiving an IRS subpoena.
On their first and only visit, Hunter acted so rude to upscale female members — “grabbing women’s asses” and other behavior that went against the club’s rules — that Lawner asked him to leave and banned him from future events.
I would think sex clubs would actually have some pretty strong standards of conduct. Otherwise it ends up being a bunch of creepy dudes wondering where all the women went.
Isn't that what a sex club is, except that they pay the women to be there?
I have no direct experience. Maybe some are like that and the women are basically whores. But I know in a lot of swinger scenes, there are a lot of expectations about behavior. Nobody wants a lot of drama and bullshit. And single men aren't too welcome.
Have direct experience, can confirm. Sex clubs are places where sex can happen in public. (Well, sort of public.) It an environment. But the women are typically there because they want to be, so if someone is acting in a manner that will piss them off and make them less likely to come back, they're gonna get tossed.
That's pretty much what I thought.
I always thought a sex club was just a fashionable way of saying whorehouse.
Pull back that curtain, and it's all old, rich, progressive white men virtue signalling.
https://nypost.com/2023/06/22/hollywood-doesnt-have-a-diversity-problem-it-has-a-woke-virtue-signaling-problem/
Several years ago, I had what I thought was a brilliant idea for a movie.
It was the story of the race to be the first person to run a mile in under four minutes, a literal milestone that for a long time was thought impossible.
But when I pitched it excitedly over dinner to one of the world’s most talented and famous scriptwriters, he shook his head.
“It’s a brilliant story,” he admitted. “But nobody in Hollywood will make it.”
“Why on earth not?” I queried.
“Because the main characters are all white,” he replied.
Specifically, any contending movie for the 2024 Academy Awards must meet two of four new criteria which include featuring a lead or significant supporting character from an “underrepresented racial or ethnic group,” having a main storyline that focuses on an underrepresented group, or at least 30% of the cast comes from two or more underrepresented groups (women, ethnic minorities, LGBTQ or the disabled).
Jaws star Richard Dreyfuss said the new rules “make me vomit” and seethed: “No one should be telling me as an artist that I have to give in to the latest, most current idea of what morality is.”
He added: “What are we risking? Are we really risking hurting people’s feelings? You can’t legislate that. And you have to let life be life and I’m sorry, I don’t think there is a minority or majority in the country that has to be catered to like that.”
The problem with these Oscars diversity rules is that once again, meritocracy is being sacrificed at the altar of exhaustingly self-harming wokery.
"• The submersible vessel that disappeared while traveling to the Titanic ruins "imploded near the site of the shipwreck and killed everyone on board," the A.P. reports."
They also report that the Navy knew about this in real-time due to acoustic monitoring, and notified the Coast Guard almost immediately, to narrow their search area. So why did we find out on Thursday when they knew on Sunday?
Why did we find out two weeks after being mandated that masks didn't stop the virus?
Dit… dit… dit… signal sent.
What, you sent out the batshit signal again, Laursen?
Oh, fuck off. The whole mask thing was a disgusting fiasco. We were lied to over and over again and forced to do something absurd, unhealthy and uncomfortable. People acting like normal people have always acted are not the virtue signalers.
When you reach the point that Zeb is cussing you out…
Damn
Remember around 1970 the US knew almost immediately that Russian sub in the Pacific sank to the bottom. Soviets didn't know what happened or where until years later. We even sent the Glomar Explorer (CIA) to attempt to retrieve it. We have the bottom of all the oceans bugged and we are listening.
Shit Clancy wrote about this shit in his first two books. It's really not that big a secret. That was in 1984 and 1986 respectively. Also, he said he got almost all of his research from open sources such as Popular Mechanics and Popular Science.
Feel-good child butchery.
https://nypost.com/2023/06/22/gender-affirming-surgery-puts-a-feel-good-phrase-on-child-butchery/
A decision by a Federal judge in Arkansas isn’t always a matter of great importance. But this week one was. The judge in question struck down Arkansas’ ban on “gender-affirming care” for minors.
Arkansas was the first state to pass such a ban, although 18 states have passed similar laws, including Alabama, Florida, Oklahoma and Texas. All have been criticized by the White House. President Biden has called such bans “outrageous” and “immoral.”
White House Spokesperson Karine Jean-Pierre added: “These are our kids. They belong to all of us.”
Which is an interesting formulation. Until the day before yesterday, it was believed that children belong to their parents. Who knew that American parents are in a joint custody arrangement with the White House?
But what all this points to is not a normal political disagreement. It gets to the root of one of the most wicked things going on in our day. Something that future generations will look back on with amazement and horror. I guarantee that within even just a few years people will say of this era “What were they thinking?”
Because let’s remind ourselves what this “gender-affirming care” actually consists of. It consists of telling confused and often deeply unhappy children that their problems can all be sorted out if they decide that they were born in the wrong body and that this is fixable.
How is it fixable? First by easy little things like “puberty blockers” and “hormonal treatment.”
Do people realize what these things — also designed to sound simple and innocuous — actually are? They are drugs whose long-term effects we have almost no studies on.
They pretend you can come off these drugs and go straight back to normal. But since everyone is meant to “affirm” most kids stick on the drugs.
And I can tell you from people I have spoken to who’ve gone through this that there are plenty of consequences. Many of the young men end up with breast tissue. They have also been chemically castrated. Many were simply gay.
Chemically castrating gay men used to be seen as a torture from the intolerant past. Today it is seen as progressive and tolerant.
If you are a girl being given “gender-affirming surgery” you will start by being given a “medically necessary” double-mastectomy.
Any woman who has actually had to go through that surgery for serious health reasons will know it is not the fun little procedure the trans lobby call “top surgery.” But it is positively breezy compared to the equally cutesy-named “bottom surgery.”
I’m sorry for what follows, but people have to know this.
For a girl “bottom surgery” will consist of flaying a young girl’s leg or arm to the veins, leaving her with an ugly, unhealable wound on her body while attempting to make something approximating a penis out of it. This skin graft will often not take. When it does the result will neither resemble nor operate like a penis.
That’s just the girls. For the boys “gender-affirming bottom surgery” actually means their penis will be cut in half, flayed and partially inverted into their body. This attempt at creating a vagina will cause complications for life. The wound will keep trying to heal up. Urination will almost never be straightforward. Infections will be commonplace, as will painful internal hair growth.
The judges should not be smacking down the states. They should be prosecuting the doctors, pharmaceutical and insurance companies who are creating such lifelong misery for America’s youth for their cynically self-enriching ends.
White House Spokesperson Karine Jean-Pierre added: “These are our kids. They belong to all of us.”
Oh it's so horrible, isn't it? Sure sounds like the sinister Biden administration wants to seize control of the nation's children and raise them as their own. We must stop them!
Except this use of "our children" by politicians is not unique to Team Blue.
https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-politics-and-policy/alabama-governor-signs-bill-criminalizing-transgender-health-care-mino-rcna23674
Republican Kay Ivey, after signing a ban on transgender health care:
"We should especially protect our children from these radical, life-altering drugs and surgeries when they are at such a vulnerable stage in life," she said in a statement.
Wow, sounds sinister! Sounds like she wants to seize control of the nation's youth!
Or another one, from Florida:
https://apnews.com/article/desantis-florida-lgbtq-education-health-c68a7e5fe5cf22ab8cca324b00644119
Republican Randy Fine, state senator:
“God does not make mistakes with our children,” Fine said.
Our children! Let me reach for my fainting couch!
So we could either treat the collective phrase "our kids" or "our children" as used by politicians FROM BOTH TEAMS, as some sinister plot to seize all parental rights away from parents; or we could treat the collective phrase "our kids" or "our children" as just a turn of phrase with no sinister intent; or we could do, like you did, dishonestly imply that when one team does it, that it's some sinister plot, but conveniently ignore when the other team does it.
Nice try at using it both ways, Jeffy, but ultimately, you fail. There's "our kids", as collectively, you kids and my kids together, and then there's what KJP said "They belong to all of us." In other words, everyone, not the parents.
Also, you seem to support the chemical castration of gay men.
Or, there's "they belong to all of us", meaning, these parents over here and those parents over there, together.
But we know, when one team uses collectivist language it is sinister, but when the other team uses collectivist language it is understandable and excusable.
So, again, you support the chemical castration of gay men to make them "female"? That's what they do in Iran, Jeffy.
So you concede the point and now try to change the subject. I'll take that as a W.
I never conceded my point, and you still have yet to answer my question.
I don't need anyone who supports sharing pornographic, sexually explicit material with little children pulling this 'our kids' bullshit.
If you think saying 'Leave the Kids Alone' is targeting some particular demographic, that demographic fucking deserves it, and more.
Just when I thought you couldn’t get any dumber or more mendacious
I dont' see where Ivey is saying the Government should have priority over the parents. Something you and other Democrats continue to push.
You aren't actually that stupid, are you? The objectionable part was obviously "They belong to all of us". People use "our" and "we" like that all the time and everyone understands that it doesn't mean that parent's aren't in charge of their own children.
I don’t call him Lying Jeffy for nothing.
Jeff is only here to fuck up the real conversations.
No, Jeffy is delusional and actually believes he's the true Scotsman (he shares this trait with the ever put up on, bullied Sarc). Liarson on the other hand does it on purpose. Jeffy is a liar, but he actually believes he is making a cognent point rather than the inanity we all know his posts to be.
Much agreed on the "one true Scotsman". Here's Jeffy up above (responding to me):
chemjeff radical individualist 6 mins ago
Your understanding of ‘libertarian’ and my understanding of ‘libertarian’ are clearly very different.
My understanding of ‘libertarian’ is, generally speaking, socially tolerant and fiscally conservative. It also sticks up for the rights of every individual, even the ones who are most hated. That means sticking up for the rights of Nazis, transgendered, bigots, foreigners, criminals, all people. IMO you can’t really call yourself a libertarian in good faith if you aren’t willing to commit yourself to defending the rights of every single person.
Your understanding of libertarianism is apparently some weird mixture of social conservatism and paranoia, whose main purpose is to “stop the Left”, I guess.
And
chemjeff radical individualist 5 mins ago
And I think there are some ideas presented by progressives that are worthy of consideration by libertarians. For example, issues of criminal justice reform, and issues of racism generally. I appreciate that they are at least considering the issues. I don’t favor most of their proposed solutions but I am glad that they are thinking about it. All Team Red wants to do is ignore the issues.
These two comments put together demonstrate (at least for me) that Jeffy does think he's the "one true libertarian" here, and all of us are just on Team Red.
Oh. The. Horror.
So you all get to define what you think libertarianism is, but I don't, lest I be chastised as the "one true Scotsman". Got it.
OK, inceljeff retarded misogynist, we get it, you're the one true libertarian here. Go compete with Sarc for the title.
“My understanding of ‘libertarian’ is, generally speaking, socially tolerant and fiscally conservative.”
I used this definition in my early 20’s. Then I grew up and understood the NAP.
R Mac Who Talks and Snorts Smack grew up and understood the NAP, to mean that WE THE RIGHTEOUS PEOPLE must take over the private property rights of web site owners, and, Marxist-style, TELL THEM WHAT TO DO WITH THEIR PROPERTY so that we can pussy-grab the "libs"!!!!
(Section 230 opposes self-righteous, smug right-wing power pigs, so S-230 must GO!!!!)
I'm not sure I buy it. That might be the part he's playing, but the takes look simply too on the nose mendacious to not be intentional derailing.
I’ll second that.
in true libertopia, parents can do this to their kids and we just have to live with it
In a world where there is a strong-handed gov that prevents kids from smoking and having sex and prevents parents from 'abusing' them, banning this shit is CLEARLY acceptable, if not required.
I'm somewhat surprised that nothing newsworthy happened in connection with Hunter Biden this week. I thought I heard a rumor or something, but surely anything true would have been posted in a Roundup at some point this week.
Guess not.
Well, there's at least one Republican willing to stand up to Trump.
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/06/23/hurd-wont-support-trump-00103367
“I’m not going to support Donald Trump,” former Rep. Will Hurd (R-Texas) told CNN’s Kaitlan Collins Thursday night, straying from other candidates who’ve said they’ll support whoever becomes the Republican nominee.
Of course he'll probably get the Lynn Cheney treatment and be drummed out of the party even though his voting and policy record are down-the-line conservative. Because Team Red has become a cult of personality and not a party of ideas anymore.
The Lynn Cheney treatment
Example 1,123,572 why the left can't meme.
What's particularly retarded about that meme attempt is that Trump was against the Iraq war and railed against it the whole time, and attacked her Dad publicly for torture.
...and then they go to selling "secrets to Russia". Poor British Shrike.
The left can't meme because their beliefs aren't even grounded in reality.
Trump might - might - have been against the Iraq War but the Republicans were not. You can't even get your criticism right.
Senatoer Biden voted for the Iraq war, did he not? So did Hillary, no?
Yeah, that was lame as fuck, gov’na shrike.
Nah. Much of the right has no sensayuma when the meme is against them - they're too snowflakey about this - so they pretend that only the right can meme. To my observation, the right generally judges a meme not by content but by object.
So I suppose Hurd is going to go third parry?
No, I think we know what he'll do - loyally vote for Biden or whoever Biden's replacement turns out to be.
Good.
He was an establishment lickspittle and most definitely wasn't a down the line conservative, contrary to assertions.
The Bushites and neocons need to all be flushed.
The Bushites and neocons need to all be flushed.
Preferably down a toilet and into the waste water treatment plant.
“I’m not going to support Donald Trump,” former Rep. Will Hurd (R-Texas) told CNN’s Kaitlan Collins
WHO?!!
Yeah, some former representative no one has ever heard of is the person I go to for political advise. Right after my cousin's roommates brother. And how bad do you have to be to be a former Republican representative from Texas? Really?
Sounds about right there, Laursen. Best thing you've said all day.
He's not elected now. So he exiled himself.
If you cannot support ?baby? freedom.
UR supporting Gov-Gun FORCED reproduction.
Did a government agent hold a woman at gun point while she had unprotected sex?
No, a vast majority of abortions those women willingly and engage in the act that causes reproduction.
He still doesn’t know how pregnancy works.
Ya; Surely those who think their unicorn-babies magically appears the very second ejaculation occurs are the "Professionals" of the reproduction trigger. /s
What's funny is you people don't even seem to realize just how stupid your brainwashed heads have gotten with this Catholic propaganda.
Try biology. Nothing Catholic about it. You're the one denying biology.
In fairy-tale land creatures; An egg is a chicken!!! lol...
Please call the humane society; I just scrambled up a bunch of living chickens for breakfast. :).....
It's so stupid it's funny.
Condoms do fail.
If you ever got laid then maybe you would know that.
Condoms do fail.
Enough about you and your mom...
And they should be punished for their harlotry!
The inability to murder a baby is a punishment?
Not being able to do an early termination of a pregnancy while the "baby" is still a ball of cells because some man wants to make sure the woman suffers for having unprotected sex is absolutely punishment. Misogynist punishment.
Now do getting drunk and losing a big bet in a Las Vegas casino. Do you wish for a "didn't mean to do that!" waiting period?
Well in that case... Surely; Las Vegas casinos should have every right to shove things up your *ss for 9-months against your will. Violation of Personal privacy. HUH.. You lost the bet; you pay the price. Frankly; I don't give a sh*t you think I have no say in YOUR issue - I'm a GOD!!! /s
Yep; that is exactly the BS you're spouting.
So make the murdering of babies illegal......
Oh that's right; It already is.
You just want to use Gov-Guns to FORCE reproduction to save your imaginary unicorn.
What is the difference between a fetus and a baby then, idiot?
One has an inherent right to life and one doesn't.
It's not that hard at all if you stop playing the propaganda (lies) in your head ignorantly.
Unless you're so Gov-Gun happy to dictate society into FORCED organ donation to save life you have less than a 0% standing when it comes to pimping out Women's body to save any life you want to imagine is there. As an excuse you'll try to say well it's her fault. In the same sense you think Gov-Guns should demand organ donation to save any life in the victims of a car crash.
Take the BS propaganda out of the equation and most people REASONABLY would object to it because people's body parts aren't to be pimped out by the State-Governments in any place but the most draconian and tyrannical governments the world has ever seen.
Or the flat out truth of it all simplified.
There is no right of the people to be secure in their persons when Gov-Guns are out pimping (making demands) of one's own body parts at their legislative demands. Using something so personal as one's own body to fulfill a goalpost is as bad as slavery if not worse.
Every person in order to be secure in their persons should be able to eject from themselves whatever they choose. That doesn't have to be "murdering" anything (i.e. Fetal Ejection). But propaganda (LIES) have made that false equivalency.
So why stop at FORCED reproduction. Gov-Guns are needed to stop unprotected sex!!! /s Why this tyrannical authoritarian premise sounds so familiar.
Is sex usually consensual? Is the government mandating you to have sex? What is the biological outcome of having sex? Biology is not force or slavery. Anyone who tried to equate the two has already admitted they have no valid argument. Sexual reproduction is over a billions of years old. Kind of think if it were slavery, evolution would have found a different method. Don't want to have kids, use contraception. Elect to get a vasectomy or tubal ligation. Abstain. The first two aren't perfect but pretty fucking close and unless you are chosen to carry the second coming of the Messiah, the latter is 100 percent effective. Worry about the extremely small chance of getting pregnant with the first two, use multiple methods (condom, pill and vasectomy and tubal ligation, pretty sure the chances of getting pregnant then are so vanishingly small that it isn't even worth discussing, hell using a condom and pill pretty much takes it to zero).
Just because something is an inconvenience (biology is a bitch this way) doesn't excuse you killing another human being. And don't start with the stupidity of the whole landlord eviction argument, because that is stupid too. If you expose someone who is incapable of caring for themselves, regardless of age, you can and will be charged with murder if they expire. The same as removing an immature fetus from the womb. So, this is another failed analogy.
Additionally, this would imply that parenthood in itself is slavery and any law that requires you to care for your offspring is government enforced reproduction. Which would logically mean you also support infanticide and filicide. Because, if the act of protecting the fetus is slavery, the act of requiring you to care for the infant and child, who is incapable of caring for themselves is also slavery, and any law that protects their lives by requiring adults to care for them must therefore be considered government enforced reproduction (BTW, in biology the idea of reproduction also includes the survival of the offspring and any traits, learned or inherited that enhances the chance of survival of your offspring).
How about rape?
Or rather, how about go fuck yourself and leave medical matters to people and their doctors.
Fucking "libertarian".
Or rather, how about go fuck yourself and leave medical matters to people and their doctors.
Now do Covid, you disingenuous prick.
Murder isn't a medical decision no matter how much they scream it is. If I decide my three year old is to much of a burden can I get my doctor to euthanize them? Why not that's my medical decision.
I think in Canada you can.
Murder is already illegal. You can't "murder" something that has no 'inherent' right to life to begin with. BS propaganda 101.
FORCED public behavior versus FORCED personal organ behavior?
Not quite the same level; but you're 100% correct it's 100% hypocritical on both party-sides.
Define rape, asshole.
Forcing a body to do something its person doesn't agree to do....
Ya know; Like what Pro-Life is doing to Women and using Gov-Guns to do it.
“Is the government mandating” ………… As a matter of fact that is EXACTLY what Pro-Life insists ‘government’ do. Mandatory reproduction by Gov-Gun threats.
Otherwise; The Pro-Life mob would support ?baby? freedom. (i.e. Fetal Ejection). Nope; they’re enslave the ?baby? in/and the ?mother? and free nothing crowd because their outsider (none of their F’En business) religious “unicorn” imagination cannot resist their Power-Mad trip.
Do you support laws against murder? And the fetal ejection trope is so sophomoric. Try harder. Is the fetus alive, yes or no? Is it a unique human being, yes or no? Do we protect living humans from aggression of others, yes or no? Don't try and weasel out of it. Answer those questions. No retreating to your repetitive and puerile talking points. Answer the basic questions.
1) Murdering imaginary BS in your your head? YES; murder them all you want - they're F'En imaginations.
2) Is the fetus alive? No; not in the general sense of 'inherently' NO.
3) Is it unique? No; It's a PART of a a person.
4) Do we protect living humans? When it has an 'inherent' life to protect.
#4 is exactly the same BS the left touts endlessly to support their Nazi-Empire; in case you missed that. Universal Healthcare, Banning and Mandating health, blah, blah, blah.... It's 100% a Nazi-Leftard cause start to finish.
You haven't countered anyone's points just keep repeating the same fucking talking points. It's almost like you can't make a good argument so rely on empty talking points.
Yell at it really hard; but it's still just the way it is.
A federal judge said Florida's edict against Medicaid covering gender transition care was discriminatory and politically motivated
now do boob jobs
Hell, just do detransitioners, to start.
Exactly. To transition, it's easy. There's even a code for insurers to pay for it. To detransition? Not at all easy. Insurance won't cover it, there's no specific codes for it, and Medicaid/Medicare won't pay for it either.
That's the major tell the gives away that this is just a new and very profitable elective procedure that they've managed to get covered.
https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1672247639113449475?t=dt8x10Ko2kXSx2BFcq8eqw&s=19
Lindsey Graham and Dick Blumenthal senate resolution basically says any event in Ukraine which allegedly results in “dispersal of radioactive contaminants” should be cause for invoking Article 5 of the NATO Treaty and officially going to war against Russia (and Belarus)
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these fucking ghouls want to eat the world. it's horrific to watch
That resolution is some high school girl level emotive stupidity. It falls into the 'look what you made me do' line of thought that little children use as an excuse.
A la: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZSoJDUD_bU
Somebody buy Lindsey and Dick a couple of helmets and pointy sticks and send them to the front.
I don't see why you would bother with the helmets.
Communism is when ugly deformed freaks make it illegal to be normal, then rob and/or kill successful people out of petty resentment and cruelty. The ideology is all just window dressing.
is that martyrmade?
A martyr-maid is the secret police woman they send out to chalk the tires of the people to be pulled over for petty infractions and then detained indefinitely.
Auron McIntyre
Or maybe mystery grove publishing.
Not sure
Huh?
DeSantis has the worst campaign team in American history.
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1672197146177679366?t=QXaoeb9V9hIgoPvjd6nZUA&s=19
Show me evidence, any evidence, besides polls that Trump is dominating this race.
You can't because he isn't.
This is a simple, easy, timely meme. You can swap out numerous figures and it still works.
Let's see how DeSantis supporters are taking it...
https://twitter.com/AngryRisbell72/status/1672095474017247233?t=eFWDuRszh4YYwHWGwVMvlA&s=19
This is absolutely disgusting. This is MAGA folks, this is Team Trump.
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(The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists rounds up some doctors’ stories here.)
“On this edition of America’s Funniest Medical Anecdotes – abortion bloopers!"
And almost every single one I've read is doctors not actually following the law but what the feel the law says (and actually doesn't say in the least). Membranes bursting prematurely is a serious medical condition which is not abortion since the fetus cant survive in those situations. Either the doctor who refused is an idiot or being deliberately stupid to make a point. I hope it's the former because as a healthcare worker the latter is just pure evil. Risking a patient's life to make a political point is just pure abandonment of your ethics as a healthcare worker.
If Hippocrates could figure that out something to the tune of 2000 years ago, you'd think it would be common knowledge by now. Especially in a profession that actually 'swears an oath' not to do this shit specifically.
The nurse who works the day shift opposite of me (on my days off) is terrible about re-ordering meds. It's much harder to fill prescriptions on the weekend (especially for Narcotics which often requires a doctor script and doctors aren't great at doing this on the weekends). I just spent half an hour of my shift making sure to go through my medcart to make sure she won't be short this weekend. Not for her, but because being short a med might inconvenience her, but harms the patients and that's unacceptable in my book.
Also, I have never met anyone who is pro-life who would consider this to be an abortion. My Aunt and Uncle are diehard Mormons. Almost fundamentalists in their beliefs. Absolute have no tolerance for abortion, not even for rape and incest. Their kids are basically the same. When my cousin's membranes burst at 12 weeks, not a single one in that family considered it an abortion, or tried talking her out of the D and C, hell my Aunt and Uncle babysat her kids so her and her husband wouldn't have to and called the Bishop to request him to come in and pray with them at the hospital before she went back for the D&C. Saying anyone could be unclear about the difference is so unbelievable that Occam's razor requires you to conclude they are deliberately misconstruing it or denying care to make a point. Which is a total abandonment of their paths as doctors.
Membranes bursting prematurely is a serious medical condition which is not abortion since the fetus cant survive in those situations.
Part of the problem with these "health/life exception" laws is that the penalty for an abortion is so severe for the doctor, that the doctor has to be *absolutely certain* that the "abortion" that he is about to perform really would save the life and/or health of the woman otherwise he faces possible financial ruin, professional ruin, and imprisonment.
So it is understandable that, given the stakes, if the doctor is even a little bit unsure if he can prove that the "abortion" would satisfy the requirements of the law, many doctors will look out for Number One first and foremost.
Don’t you date accuse Lying Jeffy of repeating leftist narratives without evidence.
It's not a fucking abortion it's a D&C. That has never been a fucking abortion. Only activists try to mistakingly conflate the two. Shit. A first year med student or for that sake a first year nursing student knows the difference. Anyone saying otherwise, with medical knowledge is fucking lying through their teeth. And no jury would ever convict. It's a false charge brought by activists pretending to be doctors. Or the dumbest doctors ever.
Also, find me a single fucking pro-lifer that has ever labeled a D&C for a non-viable fetus and abortion. You can't because it never fucking happens dipshit. In thirty years of nursing, including seven years in L&D I've never once met a single nurse or doctor who doesn't understand the difference. Nor a single patient. This is all a falsehood meant to play the heart strings as opposed to actual medicine. Either that or the precaution principle played to it's most absurd.
https://thefederalist.com/2023/06/23/whistleblower-transcripts-show-deep-state-election-rigging-for-biden-was-way-bigger-than-a-laptop/
Whistleblower Transcripts Show Deep-State Election Rigging For Biden Was Way Bigger Than A Laptop
“The EMTALA statute requires that Medicare hospitals provide all patients an appropriate medical screening, examination, stabilizing treatment, and transfer, if necessary, irrespective of any state laws or mandates that apply to specific procedures.” This statute, together with Medicare itself, is unconstitutional to start with. Roe v. Wade was unconstitutional “legislation from the bench” to start with. It might be tempting to oversimplify this complex issue by starting from where we were before Roe v. Wade was overturned, but actually we should start with the long string of Congressional, Judicial and Executive branch overstepping Constitutional limitations on their power from the beginning in order to properly analyze the current mess and how to undo it!
Can someone do her a favor and tell Nicholette Glazer that the hat she is wearing makes her look goddamed stupid. Thanks.
Judge Eighmy crossed the line, however, when he personally escorted the kids to jail, stood there while they removed their clothes and belongings, and personally came back an hour later to release them.
You can order other adults to watch some kids undress, you just can't do it yourself.
Sleep in this am?
Had shit to do.
The submersible vessel that disappeared while traveling to the Titanic ruins "imploded near the site of the shipwreck and killed everyone on board..."
The ultimate Titanic experience.
There is some irony that the sinking of the Titanic ended the life of several of the richest people and in trying to view the wreckage several more rich men died.
you are a ghoul
And one of them related to someone who was on the original Titanic.
Given the current era, are we sure they’re dead? I mean, I don’t want to start any right-wing internet conspiracies or anything but imploding a sub 4km deep would make D. B. Cooper look like chump.
I don't know. Did any of the crew have any reason to want to disappear?
Irony would be a supposed moderate posting something typically intolerant being sought out by family members of the deceased and repeatedly slapped about the face with a replica of the RMS Titanic. Irony is that 'moderates' like you are the first to jump in with the ugliest interpretations of events, always finding joy in disfavored group members' suffering and death.
And boosted Celine Dion's career.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/nations-first-elected-transgender-state-rep-arrested-on-child-porn-charges-police
Whoops....
I heard this never happens.
I, too, am shocked at this completely unpredictable event that surely is the first such instance in all of history,
Much more random than stealing luggage.
I believe a large segment of the American public took access to abortion as a given and it was Dobbs that showed how fragile that access really was. I also think that the decision brought to light how gray is the area between abortion and women's medical care. Abortion opponents have sought to paint the procedure as simply casting off an unwanted pregnancy. People are being educated about the many problems in a pregnancy that require abortion or abortion like care. People are also learning that safe medical abortions can quickly terminate a pregnancy eliminating the need for more complicated procedures.
Roe v. Wade was a weak decision and people knew that. As someone who favors abortion being legal, I wish more had been done to reach some kind of compromise in the intervening decades rather than leaving it all up to the courts.
But the fact is that the vast majority of abortions are people casting off unwanted pregnancies. I think that should be their choice, but that's what it is. There are medically necessary abortions that are actually needed to save the mother's life. I think that most states banning abortions have left room for that, and if they haven't I hope it gets fixed, and I think it will. I don't think very many people at all object to terminating a pregnancy if the woman is likely to be killed or permanently damaged ot the fetus is not viable.
The throw outline is that Roe v Wade was wrong or weak, but that opinion is rarely supported. The fact is that Roe pretty much summed up the way most people feel. At the earliest stage the abortion decision is left to the woman and her doctor, as the pregnancy continues the state begins to have an interest and can regulate. It is also worth noting that Roe was a 7 to 2 decision while Dobbs only 6 to 3, suggesting that Roe was stronger. Where was Roe week?
As for late term abortion we know that some states are not addressing the realities of the problem that can occur in a pregnancy. We have cases and testimony where doctors' decisions are being delayed due to the current laws. As I noted there is a wide gray area that doctors are being asked to navigate with no support from lawmakers.
I would also add that Justice Blackmun had experience with medical law and had worked as an internal council for the Mayo Clinic. Justice Alito has no significant experience in medical law.
This is an appeal to authority fallacy, lackwit. And one that is expected from you. Can we take it that you are arguing that any time a judge is not an expert on a topic, they must recuse themselves from any case that involves the topic? O simply that their legal opinion, researched or no, especially if it doesn't fir w/ your worldview, can be discounted?
Medical law doesn't trump the Constitution dipshit. Alito's area of responsibility is first the Constitution. Was the 14A the correct ruling, as Roe was decided under the 14A and so called equal protection. It clearly wasn't, even Ginsberg admitted as much.
The court's job isn't to align the law with how people feel. Roe was weak in it's legal reasoning. That's been pretty broadly understood. The constitution is not explicit about anything that would suggest abortion must be legal. I was happy to see it stand, but I can't claim that striking it down was legally incorrect.
I do agree it is bad if people can't get actual life saving procedures and I hope that gets fixed if it's a real problem. But I have my doubts about how constrained doctors and hospitals really are. I suspect many times it is a stunt to make a point. Hospitals have large legal departments to figure this stuff out. No individual doctor is really being asked to make these judgements.
Again, I am seeing the same argument, Roe was weak and everybody knows that. Well seven justices did not think it weak in 1973.
Justices in the late 1960s and early 1970s were judicial activists in the true sense of the word, affirmatively creating all sorts of policy from the bench that had no basis in the text or history of the Constitution. Other examples include Miranda and the bussing cases. The backlash against liberal judicial lawmaking is what gave rise (at least in part) to Ronald Reagan, the pro-life movement, Antonin Scalia and the originalist school of thought, to name but a few.
Explain how the 14A covers a procedure only women can have? How is that a violation of equal protection. Can biological males get an abortion? No. Was abortion banned based on race? No. So, utilizing the 14A was pure bullshit. Even Ginsberg, a staunch defender of abortion, admitted that using the 14A was incorrect.
Maybe the 9A could have been a decent argument. But the courts utilized the 10A, deciding it was not a federal issue but a state issue. The defenders of Roe argued it under the 14A and didn't bring up the 9A. Using the 14A was squaring the circle. And they knew it at the time. Many judicial analysts even stated as much at the time it was decided. Oh and BTW how many justices agreed on Scott? Or Ferguson? Are you staying those decisions were strong decisions too?
Just FYI Plessy v Ferguson was a 7-1 decision. And Dredd Scott was 7-2. By counting a strength of a case based on number of judges siding for the winner, these two cases were as strong as Roe. Guess Mod must consider them strong cases too.
I have often seen the Dredd Scott decision pulled out like you have done. It is worth noting that the Taney court at the time of the decision consisted of five justices from southern states and all were or were at some time in their life slave holders. These justices had conflicts of interest. Two of the northern state justices dissented and the other two Nelson and Grier wrote concurring opinions and did not join Justice Taney's majority opinion.
The 1973 Roe decision was made by seven men none of who would have the conflict of interest the five justices on Dredd Scott had.
The Dobbs ruling has had a profound impact on abortion laws and access over the past year, with effects also reaching women's health care and U.S. politics more broadly.
Why are we still like, fighting this culture war?
Democracy?
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Almost an election year?
A federal judge said Florida's edict against Medicaid covering gender transition care was discriminatory and politically motivated. "U.S. District Judge Robert Hinkle declared the rules are unconstitutional and violate federal law," notes Axios. "That means that all transgender Floridians who qualify for Medicaid should now be able to seek coverage of their gender-affirming care."
So, to be clear, under a now non-discriminatory policy that's totally not politically-motivated, men *can* get breast implants covered by medicare and women, even with insurance, cannot?
The ability of trans women to guilt trip cis-women into marginalizing themselves as women is impressive. Truly, nobody can cunt punt a woman like a trans woman, that's for sure.
Yeah, I noted that as well and it's frankly bizarre.
I mean, is a woman feeling ugly without big tits any different than a man feeling ugly for not having tits?
theyrethesamepicture.jpeg
Can't they just identify as a woman with small tits? Women with no boobs are every bit as womanly as women with noticeable boobs. The tits are relatively cheap. The expensive step is getting the dick removed.
While I agree the lopitoffome is the greater expense, they can't go without the the fake tits because they don't want to be a normal woman, they want to be some weird barbie doll fantasy.
Look at Bruce Jenner, who was young in the 70s to get his age, then Catelyn Jenner, who is trying to dress like a trampy 25 year old. It's not just "woman", it's a specific stereotype of woman.
Whether Call of Duty is available on more than one gaming platform....who the fuck cares. When our government concerns itself with this picayune granularity under the guise of "antitrust," my god what the fuck are we doing. Blow it all up.
Whether Call of Duty is available on more than one gaming platform….who the fuck cares.
And why is Call of Duty a bigger deal than Mario or Zelda?
Whether Call of Duty is available on more than one gaming platform….
If I can’t get called a “dirty nigger cunt” by an 11 year-old kid after he headshots me on my $600 Playstation 5, whatever shall I do? To the fainting couch!
Someone mentioned Call of Duty in relation to the Bud Light thing. I looked it up and they pulled someone's branded content because he pointed out that people don't care about who you are or who you fuck, just leave the children out of it.
This seems to be the line. You can't cause offense by saying "I want to tell my kids about sexual things myself, rather than leaving it to others." Meanwhile, I'm thinking about multiplayer games and constantly being called a fag while someone teabags your corpse...
I'm guessing CoD players aren't particularly sheltered nor are they sensitive to these topics.
'For women and their families, abortion access is now largely a function of financial and geographic circumstances.' A procedure that is almost always elective, and for a subset of the entire population, is in in some case making people treat it like other medical procedures? This is clearly misogyny and chattel slavery... /sarc I'm going to go out on a limb here, but 'their families?' This smacks of typical bullshit reporter-speak. How many, where, how often. The assertion is not evidence of fact.
In many states it's always been that way. Idaho is the 13th largest state by landmass, but only had five medical facilities that offered abortions before the state virtually banned them (like three of them were in Boise alone). It wasn't the law that limited them but the demand. Others tried opening but failed because there wasn't the demand for them. So, if you were more than an hour away, it took some doing to get an abortion even before this decision. There is only five in Montana, the fourth largest state. Three in Alaska (down from 13 in the 1980s and again not because of laws did they close).
The Supreme Court rules in favor of Coinbase and against its clients
The U.S. Supreme Court on Friday backed cryptocurrency exchange Coinbase Global Inc’s (COIN.O) bid to halt customer lawsuits while it pursues appeals aimed at moving the disputes out of courts and into private arbitration, which businesses often prefer over litigation.
The justices, in a 5-4 decision, overturned a lower court’s ruling involving a user who sued after a scammer stole money from his account. The lower court had let a proposed class action lawsuit proceed while Coinbase pressed its appeal contending that the claims belong in arbitration.
I suppose this belongs in Volokh. Odd too that the 4 dissenting were the three liberals plus Clarence Thomas.