A Georgia Woman Died After Falling Out of a Moving Patrol Car. Now, Her Family Is Suing the Cops Responsible.
Brianna Grier was having a mental health crisis. She needed an ambulance. She got two cops instead.

Brianna Grier was arrested last July in Hancock County, Georgia, after suffering from a mental health episode. However, police forgot to close the back door of their patrol car, and Grier fell out, sustaining injuries that eventually led to her death six days later.
This week, Grier's family has filed a $100 million lawsuit against the officers who arrested Grier, claiming that their actions constituted excessive force that violated her constitutional rights.
According to the lawsuit, Grier, who had been diagnosed with schizophrenia, had been visiting her parents and her twin 3-year-old daughters when she called 911, saying that she was having an anxiety attack and needed to take her medications. Two officers, Lieutenant Marlin Primus and Deputy Timothy Legette, arrived shortly and arrested Grier. According to the complaint, Primus "claimed he could smell alcohol on Brianna Grier, stating he was charging Grier with 'public drunk,'" though Legette "later admitted to Georgia Bureau of Investigation (GBI) officials that he did not smell alcohol"on her.
According to the complaint, Grier herself insisted that she wasn't drunk, and when Grier's body fluids were later tested, no alcohol was found in her system.
The complaint states that Primus and Legette handcuffed Grier—who, in body camera footage of the incident, can be heard threatening to harm herself if arrested. The pair then forced Grier into the back of Legette's patrol car, where she may have hit her head. According to the complaint, Primus did "not protect Grier's head while hoisting and heaving Grier into the vehicle" and "Grier can be heard audibly exclaiming until her head has crossed the threshold of Deputy Legettes's patrol car driver's side back doorframe. Once Grier's head crosses the car doorframe ceiling, Grier is suddenly silent."
A few minutes later, the two officers drove off, leaving the back passenger-side door to the patrol car open. A few minutes later, Grier, who had not been buckled into the car, fell out of the patrol car.
In body camera footage of the incident, the two officers can been seen approaching an unconscious Grier, laying facedown on the side of the road. "Sit up, sit up, sit up," says Primus, moving Grier into a sitting position, adding "she jumped to the car." While the pair's statements are sometimes difficult to hear in released body camera footage, the complaint states that Legette added, "We're gonna need an ambulance."
However, neither officer attempted to administer first aid. As the pair waited for an ambulance, Primus stated that Grier "just bailed out. I might not have had that door shut. That I don't know. That I don't know," after which he motioned for Legette to turn off his body camera.
Grier was eventually airlifted to an Atlanta hospital. The complaint states that Grier had "multiple skull fractures upon arrival to the hospital" and was "declared brain dead," succumbing to her injuries six days later. Last November, the Hancock County District Attorney announced that he would not be seeking criminal charges against the officers.
"A State Actor cannot arrest and handcuff an individual, place them in a dangerous circumstance, and then claim no fault if the person is harmed by precisely the danger created by the State Actors," the complaint states. "As a proximate result of the callous and or reckless actions and omissions described above, Grier was injured, endured physical pain and mental suffering, and was killed."
Grier's case shows just how easily 911 calls seeking medical health for a mentally ill individual can end in tragedy. Grier's aggressive arrest by police and their negligence in failing to buckle her into the car and insure the patrol car door, according to the complaint, directly caused her unnecessary death.
But Brianna Grier didn't need to be arrested, she needed an ambulance—something her parents say had been summoned during their daughter's previous mental health episode—but instead, she got two cops.
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According to the complaint, Primus “claimed he could smell alcohol on Brianna Grier, stating he was charging Grier with ‘public drunk,’” though Legette “later admitted to Georgia Bureau of Investigation (GBI) officials that he did not smell alcohol”on her. Immediate termination. Kidnapping charges, constitutional violations, civil rights violations, lifetime ban from LEO careers.
Not closing the door is manslaughter at least. Not buckling in somebody who you have restrained and can't protect themselves is another liability charge. Moving an injured person for non-immediately life threatening reason is reckless endangerment. And intentionally turning off the police cam during an emergency should also be a felony.
Hancock County District Attorney announced that he would not be seeking criminal charges against the officers.
There should be some kind of charge for failure to do his job for this guy, too.
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What if there was a bear in the police car's trunk, and it snuck out and opened the door?
If they would have put on a drag show or groomed her, they would have been free speeching.
This bear in the trunk thing keeps coming up. Got a link to where it began? It's some sort of meme I missed out on.
Chemjeff compared going out during Covid like driving around town with a bear in your trunk.
My search abilities are shit or I’d get you a link.
Well, not precisely. The idea was to illustrate the concept of negligence. So a person may be carrying a virus, but not yet know it; or, the person might know that he/she is sick, but just not care. If that person goes out in public and transmits that virus *unintentionally*, what is the liability, if any, of the transmitter? That virus represents a piece of property that was formerly on your possession that was transmitted to another person and presumably caused that person harm.
And by the way, the person to whom I responded in that discussion rather liked the analogy and considered it seriously in his response.
LOL @ defending this shit.
It was a serious argument made with a somewhat silly example.
You have already stated that you don't even believe in the concept of negligence from a libertarian perspective, is that correct?
“Serious argument”
LOL
It was bearly coherent.
Flashing your dick at kids? LIBERTARIAN
Going outside during a pandemic? NOT libertarian.
Clarification duly noted.
I see you are having a hard time distinguishing between what should be regarded as unacceptable behavior, and what should be regarded as CRIMINAL behavior.
Overt has made this case way better than I, but the idea that not protecting someone from nature in any way violates the NAP is so ridiculous it basically turns the concept on its head.
Your argument was fallacious from the get go AND it conflated being unvaccinated with knowingly spreading a highly communicable (albeit statistically undeadly) disease. Which, based on the year and a half of Covid scare posting you had already done wasn’t shocking, but trying to couch all of it as some kind of principled libertarian stance is just, forgive me, bullshit.
It was the most bizarre and awkward attempt at an analogy that I have ever seen.
Ask and recieve.
https://reason.com/podcast/2021/10/25/freedom-responsibility-and-coronavirus-policy/#comment-9176512
Won't show me the comments there, but I trust you guys when it comes to that fucktard troll.
Thanks.
Also, that's a pretty creative bit of stupidity right there. I like coming up with off the wall analogies, but, wow. That's quite a non sequitur.
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I forgot to edit it for ?comments=true. Works now.
https://reason.com/podcast/2021/10/25/freedom-responsibility-and-coronavirus-policy/?comments=true#comment-9176512
Was before they changed their tools.
Hah, it's even stupider than it sounds at first.
Thanks for that.
I bet if the woman had been white she wouldn't have been treated that way.
You realize at least one of the officers in this case is black/African American, right? Are you really sure you want to claim the issue is/was racism?
The majority of actions taken by the officers were wrong if not specifically illegal, but I'm really curious about what exactly was requested by the 911 caller, why the 911 operator rolled a patrol car instead of an ambulance, and why the officers felt they needed to *invent* an excuse to place the woman under arrest.
They might have felt their safety was at risk, and putting her "under arrest" was required to be able to place her in handcuffs.
I think this all went from unfortunate to fatal when they knocked her out putting her in the patrol car. When she was unconscious they decided to just head to the station (or hospital), and the crowning failure was the one-two punch of not securing her in the back seat and *forgetting* to close the door.
Skin color is always the most important thing.
It is now.
I was trying to be a bit sarcastic. The cop looked black, and the now-deceased suspect looked white. (I thought she *was*).
The usual suspects will have to work overtime to keep their centrality-of-race theory intact with all these incidents with black cops or white suspects.
Who am I kidding, they can just ignore the issue.
Sooo... ticket them for failure to buckle her up?
They neglected to close the car door ?
1: Just how stupid were these two mouth breathers ?
2: I've driven lots of cars and 100% of them would start beeping if you shifted into "drive" with any of the doors open. ????
3: How about we split the difference. If the D.A. doesn't want to take this case to trial, there's not a lot that can be done.
But can we at least show Tweedle Dumb and Tweedle Dumber the door.
Is there no such a thing as too stupid to be a cop in Georgia ?
1: Just how stupid were these two mouth breathers ?
Probably not stupid at all.
2: I’ve driven lots of cars and 100% of them would start beeping if you shifted into “drive” with any of the doors open. ????
Think about what you just wrote and ask yourself if 'they forgot to close the door'.
There are so many weasel words and obfuscations in this article that it might as well have been written by the family's lawyer.
I doubt it is color, my guess is officers just get tired of dealing with all the crazy people and get very callous. Not that it is right, they signed up for the job, but it explains a lot of police actions.
Perhaps it's time for all police (paramilitary?) forces remove the phrase "To serve and protect" from their vehicles and from wherever else they use it. It doesn't seem at all clear they are serving and protecting anyone in particular. In fact, it does seem that all too often they are the ones being served and protected, by their PBA's, their FOP, and qualified immunity. It may be true sometimes that it's a matter of "a few bad apples". It's also apparently true that there are an awful lot of contaminated barrels that are incapable of identifying and ejecting those few before some civilians are needlessly killed.
Put away the rotten apples and perhaps the other apples can be sound ones.
But they seem themselves as a 'brotherhood" and the good guys won't fink on the bad ones. We also see that with Doctors and Lawyers, it is not exclusive to cops.
No, it's not exclusive to cops.
But they take it to a different level.
When I was teaching (roughly a lifetime ago) I learned of a colleague who had a very
They don't specify who it is they're serving and protecting, though...
But doesn't asset-forfeiture looting make it all worthwhile? Reagan and Biden went to a lot of trouble to fasten asset forfeiture and mandatory minimums onto the 1986-7 Prohibitionist Laws. Remember that Crash & recession?
When you call the cops for help and first thing they do is look for a reason to arrest you rather than to help you, that's a bad cop.
It’s what they are trained to do.
Next time someone goes nuts, call an ambulance.
But it's the same number for both...
The very first thing cops do when you ask them for help is run you for warrants so they can arrest you. Failure to do so is one of the few things that can get a police officer fired.
This is horrible. But $100 million (if that's what they're suing for; the lawsuit itself doesn't seem to specify a dollar amount) is excessive. Hancock County had a population of 8735 in the 2020 census and one of the lowest per-capita incomes in the country; this figure is approximately the income of everyone in the county combined.
The lawsuit has 22 counts. I'm no lawyer, but it seems like they're throwing everything out there to see what sticks. I feel like a good lawyer would know what would stick beforehand. It alleges harm to Marvin Grier, but he is not a plaintiff, so why do that? It alleges harm to Mary Grier, who is, as far as I can see, only a plaintiff as administrator of the estate and not in her own right. Again, why do that? Did they forget to list them as plaintiffs? Did they remove them as plaintiffs for some reason and forget to edit the lawsuit to reflect that? Five of the counts include respondeat superior liability, but then count 19 is just for the respondeat superior. What, was the lawsuit not long enough already that you have to repeat yourself?
And finally, all of these appear in the complaint, some multiple times. I'd argue that they're all unnecessary.
(That last one reminds me of a student writing a report with a minimum word count.)
And no, it's not like they were careful to use "plaintiff" on charges involving only one plaintiff and "plaintiffs" on charges involving both. The missing period on the second one is in the original, multiple times, which tells me that they copy-pasted some of this unnecessary boilerplate, but then, what, got bored and decided to mix it up?
Pretty obvious that brevity is not a part of their toolset. On the other hand the defendants council will have to read every word and translate for their clients. Billable hours here we come!
Using alternative theories is quite permissible under modern rules, or so I understand - they'd rather invoke multiple theories than use only a few and find later they missed some key theory of liability.
I would expect that for the amount lawyers charge, they would *know* all the theories of liability, or at least know how to look them up before filing the case.
Paragraph 192 is simply repeating Footnote 5, which is over a page in length. Paragraph 163 and Paragraph 208 quote from Footnote 2. (They both incorrectly say they're quoting Footnote 1.) Paragraph 193 cites Footnote 4. Why put something in a footnote if you're just going to put it in the main text anyway?
The complaint states "Lieutenant PRIMUS is Sheriff Tomlyn PRIMUS’ older brother." several times (what's the point of incorporating everything by reference if you're just going to repeat unimportant stuff multiple times anyway?) It's mostly there for the dubious implication that being the sheriff's brother gives him special insight into the longstanding practices of the sheriff's office. Are they capitalizing PRIMUS because they are defendants, even though there's more than one with that name (making the capitalized part ambiguous)? But they also capitalize BROWN, who is not a defendant. And they don't capitalize Grier. (Except that one paragraph where they randomly capitalize it one time out of three mentions in that paragraph, of course, just because they can.)
Is that true? Turning it off is one thing, but does simply not bringing a camera at a point where there's not yet any controversy rise to the level of spoliation?
Another Justice Joseph P. Bradley is here to let killers go unmolested by alleging of a drafting error in the indictment? This is gonna be sooome kinda test of stare decisis!
Proving, once again, that there exists no situation so fucked up that it cannot be made worse by the presence of agents of the state.
O/T: Huh. I did not know that the "No Labels" crowd was still around.
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/26/members-of-a-no-labels-allied-caucus-erupt-at-no-labels-00098913
But apparently they are fighting with Democrats in Congress.
Another Emma Camp "according to the lawsuit" special.
More hanky-panky from the FBI.
https://news.yahoo.com/even-fbi-agents-couldnt-figure-202400083.html
They tried to figure out who was in charge of Q-Anon. But, they couldn't do it.
They opened an investigation into Q-Anon in 2018 on a rather flimsy basis. And then they didn't get very far.
Looks like this time, incompetence won out over malice.
The bear in the trunk is in charge.
The only people I know who talk about or know anything about Q-Anon are left wing retards.
Poor poor MyPillow Guy. He's now $5 million poorer.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/05/26/my-pillow-mike-lindell-investigation-00097903
Very funny. It seems likely that Mike "great pillow, Mike!" Lindell genuinely believed that the 2020 election was stolen but, unable to find any evidence to prove it, embarked on a propaganda exercise that blew up in his face.
In a tragic turn of events, a Georgia woman died after she fell out of a moving patrol car. In response, her family is pursuing legal action against the police officers involved, arguing they bear responsibility for the woman's untimely death.
While specific details surrounding the case are currently limited, it is known that the woman was in police custody at the time of the incident. Her fall from the moving vehicle ultimately led to her death. The family's lawsuit likely alleges negligence, misconduct, or other forms of inappropriate action on the part of the police officers.
Police accountability and proper conduct have become pivotal issues across the nation in recent years. The circumstances of this case add to the ongoing conversation about the responsibilities of law enforcement to ensure the safety of those in their custody.
The family's lawsuit represents their effort to seek justice and perhaps contribute to systemic changes within the law enforcement community. Legal proceedings like these often shine a light on existing practices and may highlight areas where improvements are needed.
As this case proceeds, it will be crucial for all details to be thoroughly examined. The investigation should seek to establish a clear understanding of what transpired leading up to the tragic event, and whether there were indeed breaches of duty or misconduct on the part of the officers involved.
The community, along with the rest of the nation, will be following this case closely, waiting to see how the justice system responds to such serious allegations. The outcome could have a significant impact not only on the grieving family but also on future law enforcement practices.
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So, exactly what sort of first aid do you recommend for treating multiple skull fractures? Should the cops have attempted a trepanation with field-expedient materials?
Go into the trunk, get the 1st aid kit. Use the training you were given to immobilize the victim, put on a C-Collar around her neck from the kit to keep from making it worse, check for obvious bleeds, cone off the area so nobody runs her over, etc. Maybe ANYTHING but yell at her to sit up and then yank her around by the arms/shoulders with her head & neck lolling all over the place.
Absolutely nothing you listed is a treatment of any kind for what killed Brianna Grier -- cerebral edema subsequent to severe blunt force trauma to the head (as found both by the GBI medical examiner and by the independent autopsy commissioned by the family).
So, there are two kinds of people who think it worthwhile to complain that the cops didn't provide utterly futile first aid, rather than keeping the focus on matters in which the police actually contributed to Brianna Grier's death.
The first kind are the ignorant loudmouths whose opinions should always be ignored because they have no correlation with reality.
The second kind are the informed but utterly callous who care nothing for Brianna Grier except that her corpse makes a dandy platform for denouncing the police.
Which of those two groups are you in, dear?
Nobody is expecting them to treat victim for cerebral edema; that is professional care done my medical staff at a facility. First aid is just that, the first possible aid you can render a person at the scene. Something they should be trained in. You asked what first aid they could have provided, and I mentioned some: stabilizing the victim's head & neck and making sure she isn't moved until professionals (or at least someone more trained than themselves) get on scene.
You act like if you can't skip to the end and solve the whole thing, then nothing done in-between is worthwhile nor responsible behavior. That is wrong. They teach first aid to 1st responders exactly for this reason. There are many advantageous things that can / should happen between incident and final care.
Also, I don't believe in your two solution paradigm , you'll have to find someone else to strawman an argument to.
This case is sorta like the one in which a Colorado woman was in the back of a police cruiser which was left on train tracks while the officers attended to something else, and the vehicle was hit by a train.
No, nothing like that horrifying incident. Those cops need to be in prison for that.
Are you sure that wasn't a Snidely Whiplash cartoon? Surely no reeeeal cops would handcuff a gal to the railroad tracks. Then again, qualified immunity would make it a win-win for them, right?
"Metal health episode" is the new "I Can't Breathe" and "I might be pregnant" crap the career criminals are using to try and get out of responsibility for their actions.
...after calling 911 on themselves.
"You have reached Kleptocracy Room 911, where do you need deadly aggression protected by qualified immunity?"
"Mmmm mmm mmmmm mm mmm!"
"Medical emergency? Goons with guns will be there in a jiffy, sayonara, sucker!"
Open doors don't "make you fall out." The car would have been dinging at the officers the whole time. There is more to this story, and it's not that the officers are responsible.
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