Failing to Reform Social Security Means Mandatory Cuts
Social Security will become insolvent in the early 2030s if Congress does nothing.

When President Joe Biden sparred with Republicans during his State of the Union address in February, he vowed to veto any attempt at cutting Social Security benefits. Yet the budget proposal he unveiled in March lacked a plan to avert the mandatory Social Security benefit cuts that are quickly approaching.
Social Security will become insolvent in the early 2030s without policy changes, but no one in Washington wants to make those changes. Do nothing, and benefits will need to be cut by about 20 percent across the board within a decade or so, according to estimates by the Social Security Administration's trustees.
If your ship is taking on water, you can try bailing it out, which in this case means changing the program's parameters to better balance revenue and spending. Or you can board the lifeboats, which in this case means finding an alternative way to help Americans plan for retirement before the current system sinks. Biden's budget doesn't give Americans a bucket or an oar.
The president's $6.8 trillion proposal includes billions of dollars in new spending and higher taxes on wealthy Americans and corporations. While one of those proposed tax increases would go toward shoring up the finances of Medicare, which is also rushing toward insolvency, the budget plan does not even gesture at mitigating the Social Security crisis.
Biden has even retreated from a campaign promise to lift the existing cap on income subject to the payroll tax that funds Social Security. That's good, but the absence of an alternative proposal means we are one presidential administration closer to a crisis that becomes harder to avoid each year.
Here is one idea: Just scrap Social Security entirely. That would relieve younger workers from funding benefits for older, generally wealthier Americans and allow them to invest as they see fit. A 2016 Tax Foundation study found that, for all except the lowest-earning workers, private retirement accounts were more lucrative than Social Security benefits. A worker who earns average pay and saves only 10 percent of his salary in a standard tax-advantaged account will end up with annual retirement income three times more than what Social Security offers.
Before elected officials rule out privatization, they should consider that when the program started, there were roughly 16 workers for every beneficiary. That ratio is now less than 3 to 1. The math will get worse as the country ages and household sizes decline. (For more on that, see "Storks Don't Take Orders From the State.")
Keeping Social Security solvent is less important than ensuring that Americans can enjoy a stable retirement.
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What will Bills Gates and Warren Buffet do without that monthly check? In all seriousness , let's remove all the people that don't need any help. In a perfect world S.S. would have never been created. But, here we are.
Our government’s actuaries tell us that Social Security will crater after 2030, and that payments will be reduced by some calculated percentage to make income match outgo within the system. And we seem to refuse to believe them. And our politicians studiously ignore them. I wonder why.
Could it be that the government and its many functionaries have squandered their credibility with the American public by repeatedly lying to them and being caught in their lies, and most of us (including me) don’t believe a damn thing they say anymore?
Could it be that the American electorate is so stupid that they will turn on and dispossess from office any politician whose actions result in them, personally, getting a smaller check next month?
Could it be that all American politicians are aware that if they attempt to change SS in any way, politicians of the opposite party will pillory them as wanting to starve grandma, or force her to live in the street eating catfood, and the American public is so stupid they will believe the ranting and dispossess them from their office (and paycheck)?
Could it be that American politicians and American voters know that at some point, at some time, benefits will have to be cut, but don’t think it will be soon, and think après mois, lé deluge sounds like a good policy to follow for now.
Could it be that all three possible reasons above are true?
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Trump has an easy and quick way to fix Social Security that will keep it solvent for the next century that won't require any cuts to benefits or raise anybody's payment. He's not going to tell you what it is because then somebody else (like Ron DeSantis) will just steal his plan, but trust m, he does have a plan.
If you eliminate Social Security, what do you propose for the people currently collecting or about to collect SS? They won't always have that huge retirement account to fall back on. As someone who gets 2/3 of my monthly income from Social Security, what am I supposed to do?
Visit their local welfare office....
Any plan that ended SS would likely include grandfathering (hah!) people already on the program, and tapering off the amount of people eligible for it.
Why did you plan retirement on government handouts?
Why did he plan on Government Almighty taxing the shit out of him (supposedly for his retirement needs), so that he had very little money left to save, after that? What was LarryB supposed to do, shoot the taxman instead of paying him?
Also note that, sad to say, LarryB invested heavily in Der TrumpfenFuhrer's real estate business, butt then Der TrumpfenFuhrer went bankrupt (6 times!), and so then LarryB was left holding the shitty end of The Trumptatorshit!
Did any of us voluntarily contribute to social security throughout our working lives?
No, we did not; we were forced to do this. And now you blithely suggest that we just move on and forget about it?
If the answer is to eliminate it, fine; but arbitrarily cutting off those who did pay into the system for 40 years it not going to fly.
Just because SS exists doesn't mean you should not plan for your own needs. That is bad planning. You've given over security to government.
What were we supposed to do, shoot the taxman instead of paying him?
Hello, is there anyone IN there? MONEY IS FINITE AND WHEN THE GOVERNMENT TAKES IT FROM YOU, YOU NO LONGER HAVE IT LEFT ANY MORE, TO SAVE IT!!!
Now try to THINK about that, please! Instead of being totally stupid!
All I want is the money I was forced to forfeit.
Sunk cost fallacy. As it becomes more distributive and left pushes for means testing the less you will see. Would be better most likely to end future payments than ask for it back.
If the biggest single lie about SS that's ever been sold to the public were true (that you "get back what you paid in"), then that wouldn't be an issue; those who are still owed benefits would be fully funded based on their past contributions and younger workers could transition to a plan with better returns on their investment.
The reality is that it's a huge problem with no good solutions, and that reality comes from the fact that the whole program is literally structured like any other Ponzi scheme ("progressives" hate this claim, but usually end up in word-salad mode when they try to explain why it isn't the case), where the people getting money out are being paid with funds coming mostly from what's being paid in by others at that time. The "SS Trust Fund" contains $Trillions still, but on the scale of what the program has grown into, that's not actually a very large amount of money and without ongoing "contributions" it would probably be depleted in 4-6 years at the most. The two distinctions between SS and a Madoff-style Ponzi Scheme are that SS is ultimately backstopped by the US Government, and that the operators of it can't just vanish in the middle of the night with some bundle of cash when the obligations hit some critical point.
"Before elected officials rule out privatization, they should consider that when the program started, there were roughly 16 workers for every beneficiary. That ratio is now less than 3 to 1. The math will get worse as the country ages and household sizes decline. (For more on that, see "Storks Don't Take Orders From the State.")
Keeping Social Security solvent is less important than ensuring that Americans can enjoy a stable retirement."
That would mean of incurring the wrath of a highly motivated interest group for the indifference of the majority of the populace. Letting the cuts happen automatically is the less risky path politically.
The Democrats have found themselves in another win-win situation. As the cliff approaches they will have increasing leverage to pass a more extreme tax/UBI agenda if they are in power, or a very large cudgel to batter Republicans with if they happen to be in power when the cuts occur.
USA. The home of Social'ist Security.....
Wonder what the revolutionary war was fought for...
...must of been so we could repeat a Venezuelan crash II?
Teacher’s Union take Culture War offensive in the most melodramatic fashion:
https://reason.com/2023/05/09/failing-to-reform-social-security-means-mandatory-cuts/?comments=true#comments
“The Pennsylvania State Education Association, a teachers’ union, is taking an aggressive step toward intensifying the culture-war battle over gender ideology in the state’s public schools. In late April, the Norristown Area School District held a press conference at which PSEA and district officials celebrated the implementation of the union’s “I’m HERE” badges among staff.
Along with displaying the pride flag, the badges include a QR code that will take students and staff to the website of the LGBTQ caucus of the National Education Association. The website includes a “resource toolkit” with links to other sites that provide not only purportedly supportive information to LGBTQ kids but sexual content as well. Among the vivid examples is a link to the Teen Health Source website, which includes how-to advice for sex acts. For anal sex, it tells kids to “make sure that the person being penetrated is relaxed” and to “use lots of lube!” When engaging in bondage, it prudently advises teens, “Make sure that the ties don’t cut off blood to any part of the body.”
But beyond bondage advice and guides on how to “organize like a sex worker,” NASD superintendent Christopher Dormer and the PSEA officials at the announcement repeatedly claimed that the badges were markers of safety for certain students. Alan Malachowski, president of the PSEA Mideastern region, put the issue in harsh, if not hyperbolic, terms. “This isn’t just about supporting teenagers, this is about life and death,” he said after noting Trevor Project statistics, since debunked, about suicidality rates among “transgender and non-binary” youth. And a disclaimer on the “I’m HERE” website says, “If you are not a safe person or do not support LGBTQ+ youth or issues, please do not wear or display the ‘I’m Here’ badge.”
In effect, PSEA officials and the superintendent are giving staff a choice between wearing the badge, thereby branding themselves “safe,” and not wearing it, likely making themselves appear as a bigot or even dangerous.”
Damn teacher's union! If it wasn't for the teacher's union indoctrinating teenagers into having sex, it would have never crossed their minds to even think about sex.
Did you know that if no one ever talks to teenagers about sex, that they will never have sex? It's true!
Among the vivid examples is a link to the Teen Health Source website, which includes how-to advice for sex acts. For anal sex, it tells kids to “make sure that the person being penetrated is relaxed” and to “use lots of lube!”
The millions upon millions of freely available porn videos didn't convince sweet innocent Johnny to become gay. It was that damn PSEA website which told him to "use lots of lube!" that finally convinced him, "hey, yeah, I'm totally gay, let's have some anal sex!"
Teachers should stay out of it.
Far better for kids to learn about sex from the Internet.
No, far better that they learn about it from their parents. You remember, the one's legally responsible for them?
Yes, there are some bad parents out there. We don't make things better by replacing the bad parents with bad teachers.
Okay then! In just about every state, sex ed classes are optional. Parents can choose to opt their kids out of taking them.
For those parents who choose NOT to opt their kids out of the sex ed classes, they have chosen to let the teachers do the instructing.
So if your position is that public schools should not teach sex ed at all, even if parents want them to, then that means kids will learn about sex from their parents (maybe), or from their peers, the Internet, and social media (much more likely), particularly from those parents who aren't interested in teaching their kids about it anyway.
Why is it opt out and not opt in? Why do many districts hide the educational material from parents to make the decision?
Are you even aware that children have parents?
You mean those people that always get in his way?
I imagine if you made a Venn diagram of people who think sex ed causes sex, and those who think everyone will use drugs if they're not illegal, that there will be a lot of overlap.
Chemjeff thinks he is being cute.
In the real world, adults understand that culture has an impact on the development of children and their default behaviors. That culture includes the speech of authority figures, including the agents of the state put in charge of them for a majority of their waking hours.
But this is chemjeff who mere months ago was insisting that Parents should have the benefit of the doubt in deciding what is appropriate for their kids. But I guess if it runs counter to what Expert Teachers (and chemjeff) thinks, they ought to be mocked.
Jeff is being boring using strawman and appeal to ridicule. Problem is he is always ridiculed.
Oh give me a break. You and I both know that this entire story is a dishonest motte-and-bailey attack by Team Red against their tribal enemy.
Team Red is NOT saying, "ya know, I'm totally in favor of teacher's unions and I totally support public schools and public education, but when the PSEA put up that website telling teenagers to 'use lube for anal sex!', that was the last straw!"
Instead, Team Red is saying, "We hate the teacher's unions, we are opposed to them no matter what because they are affiliated with our tribal enemy, so let's see what dishonest hit piece we can drum up against them for today's news cycle - hey I know, let's accuse them of 'sexualizing children' because that's worked so well for the past 2+ years!"
But this is chemjeff who mere months ago was insisting that Parents should have the benefit of the doubt in deciding what is appropriate for their kids.
Yes, parents should have the benefit of the doubt in deciding what is appropriate FOR THEIR OWN KIDS. Individual parents should NOT be dictating to everyone what they think is appropriate for EVERYBODY'S kids. In just about every state, sex ed classes are optional, and parents can choose to opt their kids out of those classes. I support the ability of parents to do that. I do NOT support the ability of a small minority of vocal parents to take away sex ed classes for ALL the students. See the difference?
But I guess if it runs counter to what Expert Teachers (and chemjeff) thinks, they ought to be mocked.
Wait wait, when did 'benefit of the doubt' mean 'freedom from mockery'? If I think you are making a dumb decision, I totally reserve the right to mock you. I don't think men with guns should show up at your door and FORCE you to change your decision.
So according to Jeff parents should have no say in how public school boards determine education standards. Government, but not ones influenced by parents, or teachers should decide. Not a statist though.
How much evidence does one even need to realize teachers are not experts? They are not arbiters of culture.
So you think democracy should not apply to the regulation of government run schools, which the public is compelled to pay for?
Not when it goes against democrats views. He raged against Florida school boards.
I think the same governance concepts that we apply to democratic institutions should also apply to public schools.
So, in Congress, we the people don't vote on individual bills directly. We vote for Senators and Representatives, who are then supposed to vote on our behalf, taking into consideration not just our opinion but also wise counsel and deliberative debate on the best course of action. (At least in theory, according to Federalist Papers and Schoolhouse Rock videos)
So with public schools, we the people should not be voting on individual curriculum items. Instead we should vote for school board members who then decide what is best for their schools taking into consideration not just what the constituents want but also educational outcomes for the kids.
So no I don't favor mob rule, neither in Congress nor for public education. Do you?
Then why do you rage about changes being made by elected officials in Florida?
If the school boards are operating completely contrary to the parents and other voters input, then they should be thrown out on their ears and replaced by board members who will.
Rule by an elite establishment who only theoretically represents their constituents interests is not a proper governing regime.
Also, the union has little proper input here.
so Mickey Rat comes out in favor of mob rule in education
here comes prayer in schools and teaching creationism in science class
How do you think school board elections work jeff?
Going full retard today?
Why not, curricula should ultimately be local.
At some point, if every whim of the mob is inserted into the curriculum, then the entire exercise ceases to be "education" in any meaningful sense and instead becomes "mob indoctrination".
The solution is obvious, make education self-selecting, ie, only those who want it will get it.
So, Jeff just thinks the whims of the intersectional woke are all that count
Personally. I favor a market model for education, but since it seems we must have government run schools, I do favor them being governed by and for the people.
You are mouthing slogans that you do not know or do not care what they mean.
So in your ideal of government-run schools, how do you prevent the teaching of Creationism in science class, if that is what the local public wants and demands? Or do you prevent it?
The question suggests how results oriented you are. The exercise of power is to you is how to get the things you like and prevent the things you do not, rather than where authority and procedure to decide those things shpuld derive from.
If one is to construct an educational system, it should have a mission to *educate*. I suppose that makes me "results oriented" in this context, yes. Teaching kids nonsense because "that's what the mob demands" is not education, it is mob rule.
So I take it that your government-run schools would freely allow teaching Creationism in science class if that is what the mob wanted, because that's the will of the mob.
The problem with your “mission to educate” rather glosses over the who decides what that looks like part, which is the core of what we are discussing. You apparently want the decision to come from on high. I would rather adhere to the principles of representative government and open debate, if there must be government run schools. I certainly do not think unions should be making those decisions.
The problem with your “mission to educate” rather glosses over the who decides what that looks like part, which is the core of what we are discussing.
But the word "education" does have *some* meaning, does it not? I agree that reasonable people can disagree over the finer details. But it does have some broad scope of a meaning.
Consider two extreme examples: Suppose a local population decided that they wanted their "school" to be a labor camp. Or, suppose that they decided that they wanted their "school" to be just day care where kids did nothing but watch TV all day. Would you agree that neither one could reasonably be considered to be "education" by any modern standard?
All that is still avoiding the question of who is justly authorized to decide policy by getting into the weeds of what good policy is.
If your problem is the people might decide wrong, then that is an area against government run schools. Since getting rid of government run schools is not an option, we have to make do with how we think governments should decide things.
And that is not a credentialed aristocracy.
Jeff only wants hard Science! taught, like 12 years to save the planet, and boys and girls can change gender via feelings
"Instead, Team Red is saying, “We hate the teacher’s unions, we are opposed to them no matter what because they are affiliated with our tribal enemy, so let’s see what dishonest hit piece we can drum up against them for today’s news cycle"
You need to embrace the liberating power of "why not both".
Yes, Teachers Unions are a blight on the education system and ought to be eliminated as a government supported institution. Also, Teachers Unions are pushing objectionable speech on kids and they should be roundly condemned for that practice.
But let's be clear: Are you saying that a teacher should be allowed to direct children to sites describing bondage, over the objection of parents?
"Individual parents should NOT be dictating to everyone what they think is appropriate for EVERYBODY’S kids."
Well as soon as there is a system of education where parents are able to make decisions on behalf of their children and only their children, I'm right with you. Until then, Parents' only choice is to engage in collective compromise. And the best way for parents to do that is to limit the speech of Agents of the State to non-controversial subjects, and handling controversial subjects themselves.
"I do NOT support the ability of a small minority of vocal parents to take away sex ed classes for ALL the students."
Then what is your problem? A majority of parents do not want their kids taught queer ideology, 70% - 30%.
https://www.saveservices.org/2022/06/63-of-americans-oppose-expanding-definition-of-sex-to-include-gender-identity/
And while I haven't seen the polling, I'd hazard to guess that a vast majority of parents do not want their children instructed on safe bondage techniques.
"Wait wait, when did ‘benefit of the doubt’ mean ‘freedom from mockery’?"
Ok, I will modify my statement: According to chemjeff, not wanting agents of the state teaching your children safe bondage is functionally the same as demanding that all media, including private speech, be sex-free.
Ya know, maybe it's just me and my scientific training, but I value truth and honesty more than I value ideology and narrative. So if the only way a team can 'win' is by lying and deceiving people, then it's not really a 'win' in my book. So if the only way you can defeat the teachers' union is by making them out to be a bunch of child molesters or groomers then you're doing it wrong.
And the best way for parents to do that is to limit the speech of Agents of the State to non-controversial subjects, and handling controversial subjects themselves.
The problem with this approach is that it undercuts the entire educational mission. What is the purpose of having public schools in the first place? In my view, it is to create well-rounded critical thinkers who will become productive citizens. And you can't do that without teaching some controversial topics. Why do I want public schools to have this type of mission, instead of simply "teach them basic facts only"? Because we live in a democratic system where citizens vote, and I don't want citizens being easily swayed by demagogues promising bullshit in exchange for their votes. One way to *try* to stop this from happening is with a more educated citizenry who can see through the obvious lies and not sell their votes so cheaply.
And besides, who decides what is 'controversial'? The majority? Each individual parent? Because if math can be considered racist (and therefore controversial), then literally any subject can be considered 'controversial' at least to someone in existence today.
But let’s be clear: Are you saying that a teacher should be allowed to direct children to sites describing bondage, over the objection of parents?
I will say this *in general* of teachers: I don't think their every decision in the classroom should be micro-managed. They are professionals and their professional judgment should be respected. If their behavior or decisions demonstrates unprofessional conduct, then that is what should be disciplined.
So if a teacher were to assign readings about bondage because it was academically relevant, then I would support that. If a teacher were to assign readings about bondage that weren't academically relevant, then I wouldn't support that.
"I value truth and honesty more than I value ideology and narrative."
This is another example of arguing in bad faith. You invented the position of your opponents. In reality, your opponents are trying to stop teachers from pushing objectionable (by your admission) sexual content on their kids. But you implied that they want to eliminate private speech, including Baywatch. This is not truth. It is not honesty.
You are free to make these fallacious arguments. And you are correct that some of your opponents and even the people you are trying to mock have often engaged in similar fallacies.
The problem, of course, is that- having acted deplorably- you want to claim some sort of moral highground, and act like a victim. And that isn't going to fly, Chemjeff. You were petty and you got called out on it, and no one is going to read YOUR posts that started this thread and conclude any differently.
"What is the purpose of having public schools in the first place? In my view, it is to create well-rounded critical thinkers who will become productive citizens"
None of this standard is actionable. Many, if not most, Americans agree with this platitude. That includes people who believe "well-rounded" and "productive" to exclude knowing the intricacies of safe bondage or gender queer ideology. You also seem to think that learning "critical thinking" skills cannot be taught unless you are exposed to extremely controversial subjects. This is not true.
Is a well-rounded person someone who knows how to give rimjobs to classmates in a teacher led orgy? Is it a person who knows Physics, chemistry and biology? Is it someone who "knows" that capitalism is evil and the cause of poverty? Is a productive person someone who digs ditches for a government paycheck? An entrepreneur? A lobbyist for Big Pharma? An activist for Climate Terrorists for Peace?
But we have been round and around on this, and it is always the same thing. You wail that some "vocal minority" of parents are pushing education on the majority. When I point out this is a majority position, you say majorities shouldn't get to define things. Your argument comes down to "kids should be taught what [chemjeff|teacher] thinks will make them well rounded and productive."
You have not demonstrated why you, or a teacher should win the day here, versus the actual guardian of children.
"I will say this *in general* of teachers"
No. Let's be specific. Should *these* teachers be allowed to push kids to *this* objectionable content over the objections of parents?
"So if a teacher were to assign readings about bondage because it was academically relevant, then I would support that."
Again, you are dodging. Who defines "academically relevant?"
The officials at this school district pushed content on kids that, you agree, is inappropriate. So if your argument is that teachers and the school district get to decide these things, then you are being an authoritarian who cedes control to Experts, even when the outcome is objectionable.
If you believe there needs to be a mechanism for overriding these Experts, in order to bring them in line with parents' expectations, then you need to allow critics to bring their case against these people, including in the court of public opinion.
This is another example of arguing in bad faith.
Oh please. Get over yourself. I WAS MOCKING THEM. You are right that mockery is not the same as an Oxford-caliber debate. I think you might be a tad upset that there was an element of truth to my mockery. No, they do not literally want to ban Baywatch, just like they do not literally want to bring back the 1950's. Anyone with an IQ above room temperature would understand this.
You are the only one acting in bad faith here, by taking a comment OBVIOUSLY not meant to be taken absolutely literally, and construing it that way for the sole purpose of accusing me of acting in bad faith.
None of this standard is actionable. Many, if not most, Americans agree with this platitude.
Well, it seems as though the few who don't are here in the comment section.
That includes people who believe “well-rounded” and “productive” to exclude knowing the intricacies of safe bondage or gender queer ideology. You also seem to think that learning “critical thinking” skills cannot be taught unless you are exposed to extremely controversial subjects. This is not true.
How can you have a broad understanding of the world unless you are exposed to perspectives different from your own? Even perspectives that are so different from your own that you might regard them as outrageous, insulting, shocking, preposterous, even dangerous? How can you truly understand the world unless you are forced to confront your own biases and preconceptions, which *must necessarily* involve examining controversial issues?
I would claim that there is no such thing as a *genuine* liberal education that is free of controversy.
“kids should be taught what [chemjeff|teacher] thinks will make them well rounded and productive.”
Not me, but teachers generally, yes. Here's why:
If you want to fix your plumbing, I would suggest that you consult an expert in plumbing, called a plumber.
If you want to resolve a legal issue, I would suggest that you consult an expert in legal issues, called a lawyer.
If you want to educate your kids, I would suggest that you consult an expert in education, called a teacher.
Now, if you want, you MAY do all of these things on your own, and that's totally okay. You are perfectly free to fix your own plumbing, or represent yourself in court, or teach your own kids. You should have every right to do that. But as far as a macro-level recommendation for what people generally ought to do when it comes to plumbing, or the law, or education, I'm not going to recommend that they consult *you*, or me. Or even themselves. Because I have no idea how good of a plumber or lawyer or teacher that you are, or how good of a plumber or lawyer or teacher that they are. But I do know that there are experts out there who are far more likely to have the expertise that most of us lack in those fields to do a far better job than each of us could do individually. It is called "division of labor" and it is a wonderful capitalist invention.
So, without knowing any specifics about any individual person, I am going to recommend that a person consult a plumber to fix plumbing, consult a lawyer to resolve legal issues, and consult a teacher to educate kids. I don't think this should be controversial.
And when it comes to public education, I think the role of the general public should be to hire the management of the school in the form of a school board. But it should NOT be to micromanage specific elements of the curriculum. Just like, a lawyer's client should not be standing over his/her shoulder micromanaging every word in every legal brief, and a plumber's client should not be standing over his/her shoulder micromanaging every wrench and every part being used. It's insulting to the professional and if that is the position that the client is going to take, the client should just fire the professional and do the job him/herself.
No. Let’s be specific. Should *these* teachers be allowed to push kids to *this* objectionable content over the objections of parents?
It depends on the context.
You are one of the biggest purveyors of post modernism here....
If only we could live in a world that had a popular culture that was totally sex-free. That way kids will grow up healthy and happy and totally normal (read: HETEROSEXUAL) regarding sex. No hot bikini models advertising cars or beer. No TV shows like Baywatch. No sex scenes in movies, not even disguised ones. Not even KISSING! Because everyone knows where kissing leads. (It leads to SEX!) Maybe at the most, vigorous hand-holding. But that's about it when it comes to public displays of affection.
So we need to elect more Republicans, who will pass more laws that will CONTROL THE ADULTS, in order to create the utopian fake-1950's society that they want to see, in order to "protect the kids". Plus, there will be fewer gays, because instead of being told to "celebrate" their sick and disgusting lifestyle, sexuality-confused teenagers will be told to just "get over it" and just find the right heterosexual partner and it will all work itself out in the end. Win-win!
Is it really the business of agents of the state to provide instruction on how to properly engage in sexual fetishes?
lol as if you'd be totally fine with it if they just removed the bondage stuff
I agree that the bondage part goes a little too far.
But, they also know that your team will object to ANYTHING they write on the topic no matter what.
They went too far by even Jeff's standards but you're far right wing if you complain. Leftist institutions must not be criticized.
So here Chemjeff admits that he is only objecting because he doesn't like the people who are objecting.
Their objections are correct here, but because he doesn't like other behaviors of those deplorables, we shouldn't listen to them.
For chemjeff it is principals, not principles.
No, what I am saying is that I can understand why they put the 'bondage' stuff in there even if it is crossing a line - because it honestly doesn't matter what they put on that topic, Team Red is going to object to it no matter what.
Wait what?
“they put the ‘bondage’ stuff in there…because Team Red is going to object to it no matter what.”
No this is wrong. They put this bondage stuff in here because they know that when Team Red objects, people like you will defend it even though you have admitted it is inappropriate.
There will always be a disagreement over the exact line of what is appropriate and inappropriate. A rational person should look at THIS situation and say, “You know what, these people are wrong. They should be condemned and held accountable for exposing kids to inappropriate sexual content.” It should not matter who is objecting. Either the act is right or it is wrong.
But you instead attacked the objectors. You imputed positions they did not take. You are the reason why these groups feel free to use the power of the state to push content that we both agree is inappropriate. Because YOU will not hold them accountable for it, and will in fact run interference on their behalf to ensure NO ONE holds them accountable for it.
all I am saying is, I understand why they would put something that even they might consider 'edgy', because there is no point in self-censoring if they are going to be condemned no matter what they write.
it's the same reason why some people felt free to let their racist freak flags fly after they were accused of being racists no matter what they wrote even after they self-censored.
"If only we could live in a world that had a popular culture that was totally sex-free"
Note that the actual issue is that agents of the state are legitimizing and instructing children on controversial sexual activities such as bondage. If you object to that, why you must want the elimination of beer commercials.
And Chemjeff will tell you he debates in good faith.
No, Overt, this is you acting in bad faith. In my comment above, I am very clearly going beyond the text of the original article and mocking more broadly of the right-wing desire to pass laws to 'protect children' which instead have as their real aim a desire to CONTROL ADULTS in order to create their fake-utopian 1950's society that they want. This isn't about bondage. This is about revealing how Team Red is just like Team Blue in that they are USING kids as props. They don't want you taking care of kids the way YOU want to take care of them. They want you taking care of kids the way THEY want you to take care of them.
Talks about others arguing in bad faith, admits to arguing through attempted mockery. Lol.
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Just ignore Jesse. His comments are a waste of electrons. His whole purpose here is to troll and shill for Team Red.
This works so well for Mike and sarc as well. Just stay in a bubble of ignorance since your arguments are so weak you can’t make an intelligent defense of your beliefs. Lol.
The biggest leftist here sees everyone as team red. So nobody cares which epitaph you use to describe others.
There is mounting evidence that such care is, and has been at its roots , e.g. Dr. John Money, ideological driven quackery.
So whatever it is that you want to do, if I don't like it, then all that I need to do to justify outlawing it, is to call it "ideological driven quackery"?
In the Dark Ages of Europe (and even into and onto Euro-American days and soil), they declared being suspected and accused of being a WITCH to be "ideological driven quackery"!
It is quackery because it does demonstrable physical and mental damage to the people it purportedly is supposed to treat. The theory behind it was created by men trying to justify their own sexual peculiarities. Money was the origin of the pernicious idea of gender solely being a social construct. It is medical charlatanism.
One can VERY validly say the same things about Scientology and other cults, and CERTAINLY about the excessive taking of drugs (to include booze and coughin'-coffin nails). Even gambling and buying hookers'-asses, ass well. How well has OUTLAWING things about the behaviors of others, here, been working for us? Why add yet more?
Because the snake oil salesman is selling poison, not medicine.
"mocking more broadly of the right-wing desire"
Oh bullshit. The fact of the matter is that parents are angry that agents of the state are directing children to objectionable (even by your standards) content. Good faith arguments would mean arguing the merits of THAT situation.
But you are not doing that. You are saying that the real problem is the motivations of these hypothetical people. We shouldn't listen to them because they are deplorables. You are also attributing to them positions that are not on record- saying that objecting to the instruction of their children by agents of the state is the same as objecting to Baywatch.
Finally you are just making a terrible argument in general. Namely you are asserting that the presence of sexual content in society has the same effect on children's sexual activity as authority figures tolerating and normalizing sexual activity. This is, to put it mildly, an odd statement. It would be the same as saying, "Kids experience racism all the time in society, so what do you care if teachers direct them to White Supremicist sites."
"We shouldn’t listen to them because they are deplorables." SOME people say and-or believe things like that, when "deplorable" means right-wing.
OTHER people say that with respect to "deplorable" means illegal sub-humans, trannies, accused “groomers”, gays, heathens, infidels, vaxxers, mask-wearers, atheists, dirty hippies, Jews, blacks, abortionists, witches, or, the very WORST of them all, being one of those accused of STEALING THE ERECTIONS OF OUR DEAR LEADER, right, right-wing wrong-nuts? ANY methods are OK, so long as they are used against the CORRECT enemies, am I right?
Oh bullshit.
Not bullshit. That's what I was doing in the comment that you directly quoted above.
parents are angry that agents of the state are directing children to objectionable (even by your standards) content.
I doubt that even 0.01% of parents ever stopped to look at the PSEA website. This entire story is right-wing media ginning up outrage over their tribal enemy. That's it. And to think because some PSEA website says "use lube before anal sex!" that it means their precious little innocent teenagers will suddenly turn into anal sex fiends is also ludicrous.
I absolutely mock the people who think that they can turn back the clock to some hypothetical fake 1950's-type of utopia where no one ever talked about sex and no one ever had sex until marriage. That isn't reality, heck it wasn't even reality in the 1950's, and passing laws to try to make this fake utopia a reality isn't going to make it so, it will just create confused and ignorant teenagers who will wind up doing some very risky and stupid things.
We shouldn’t listen to them because they are deplorables.
No - we shouldn't listen to them because they are STUPID. I don't care if it's some ivory tower Ph.D. advocating for 1950's sexual puritanism or if it's some Iowa farmer advocating for it. It's stupid either way.
saying that objecting to the instruction of their children by agents of the state is the same as objecting to Baywatch.
I'm actually not saying that, but that is what happens when you construct a strawman.
Namely you are asserting that the presence of sexual content in society has the same effect on children’s sexual activity as authority figures tolerating and normalizing sexual activity.
Actually, no. I think the effect of sexual content in society on teenagers' sexual activity is WAY LARGER than what any teacher or authority figure could possibly deliver. That's what makes this invented outrage all so hilarious. Forget the bikini-clad women advertising beer, forget the millions of porn videos, forget the sex scenes in even PG-13 movies, no, what's really leading to the moral depravity of today's youth is the PSEA WEBSITE TELLING KIDS TO USE LUBE BEFORE ANAL SEX!!!!!! OMG THE OUTRAGE!
"I doubt that even 0.01% of parents ever stopped to look at the PSEA website."
Again, your argument goes back to attacking the objectors. Sure, they may be correct. This *is* bad content. But the real villain here is the people who noticed it and objected to it.
This has been the objection all along. "Sure teachers are on record admitting to hiding facts from parents, pushing communist theories, and pushing queer ideology on them. But the real crime was publicizing their own words."
There is outrage on this because this behavior is outrageous. You can try and argue that it isn't as prevalent as people think. You can try and argue that it is actually GOOD behavior that we should allow. But attacking the objectors is bad faith arguing and that is what you are doing.
"No – we shouldn’t listen to them because they are STUPID. "
Yes, this is ad hominem. And your admitting to it means you are knowingly engaging in fallacious reasoning. I rest my case that you are arguing in bad faith.
"I think the effect of sexual content in society on teenagers’ sexual activity is WAY LARGER than what any teacher or authority figure could possibly deliver. "
This is patently untrue. We know that teachers have the ability to make children sexually active because over 100 a year are arrested for sex-crimes with children in their charge. These kids spend hours each day with these adults, and if this doesn't have a big impact in the life and development of these kids, then we should probably discard tons of Teacher Union statements about how important kids are for their development.
Yes the problem is huge. And the first step in countering many of the cultural influences parents don't want is to stop the little things. But for some reason, people like you run interference whenever specific instances come up. "Who cares if this behavior is inappropriate! The horse is out of the barn, so let's just keep quiet, mkay!"
Again, your argument goes back to attacking the objectors.
If by the "objectors" you mean "the right-wing media which gins up a controversy in order to generate likes and clicks and retweets" then yes, I'm blaming them.
The one thing that both you and I agree that is over the line - putting something on the PSEA website about bondage - is such a nothingburger that it is completely stupid that we're wasting so much time on it. No, they probably shouldn't have put a line on their website saying "if you do bondage, don't tie the ropes so tight". But among the list of outrages, that one ranks pretty close to the bottom of my list.
For once I would like to see you acknowledge that the people "exposing" the teachers here don't have the best of intentions. They are pushing narratives full of lies and half-truths about teachers who are "groomers" or child molesters or worse, sliming and smearing an entire profession because of politics and ideology and service to a narrative. How many of those teachers they are sliming are actually Republicans? How many of those teachers they are defaming are really just apolitical professionals who don't give a shit about culture war nonsense and just want to do their damn jobs without right-wing wackos showing up at school board meetings accusing them of being Marxist pedophiles?
Yes, this is ad hominem. And your admitting to it means you are knowingly engaging in fallacious reasoning. I rest my case that you are arguing in bad faith.
Fine - their sexual puritanical ideas are STUPID. Better now?
This is patently untrue.
You have got to be kidding me. Are you seriously arguing that on matters of sex, teenagers listen to teachers more than they listen to their peers or social media or popular culture? Give me a break.
"If by the “objectors” you mean “the right-wing media which gins up a controversy in order to generate likes and clicks and retweets” then yes, I’m blaming them."
Again. Then you are arguing in bad faith. Regardless of the motives or the beliefs of the people reporting facts to you, the facts are what they are. You are telling us these facts are less relevant or should be discarded because you don't like the motives or beliefs of the people reporting them. That is ad hominem. You have been here long enough to know it is fallacious reasoning. Therefore you are arguing in bad faith.
I'm glad you admit to it, because it allows me to point to this whenever you play the victim, trying to claim the moral highground in discussions.
"is such a nothingburger that it is completely stupid that we’re wasting so much time on it."
You have not shown why, other than your emoting. The PSEA represents 187,000 teachers. That probably means around 3 Million kids are subject to their instruction. I think it is far more than a "nothingburger" that up to 3 Million kids are being subject to this content. I think at least the parents of those kids should have the opportunity to opine on the subject.
"They are pushing narratives full of lies and half-truths about teachers who are “groomers” or child molesters or worse,"
You are insisting this, but other than your emoting, you have provided exactly ZERO evidence of any lies. Your biggest objection has been that the term "groomer" is unnecessarily provocative. I disagree. We have discussed this many times, and until you can provide some logic other than "nuh, uh!" I'm not budging from my stance. Grooming has long been known as a tactic, often used by molesters, but not solely so. There is plenty of literature out there discussing people being "groomed" into cults, or communities groomed to enable bad activities. This behavior fits that definition.
"Are you seriously arguing that on matters of sex, teenagers listen to teachers more than they listen to their peers or social media or popular culture?"
Yes, and perhaps because you are not a parent, you don't understand this. Parents and teachers do have a massive effect on kids. Children in religious households are HALF as likely to engage in under-14 sex. Children who have parents that permit drinking are more likely to be binge drinkers. Colleges with more permissive attitudes towards drinking have (shocker) higher rates of alcohol-related injuries.
There is no silver bullet, but it is ludicrous to suggest that authority figures have NO or LITTLE impact in how culture develops. Peers are an important factor. Media is an important factor. But since Authority figures help set the message of how peers and the individual view media, their messages are absolutely important to the process.
And even if you could somehow prove that teachers have ZERO effect on kids' development (which is a pretty shitty insult to teachers on your behalf), that doesn't change the fact that it is a call for parents, not the teachers to make.
Look at leftist Reason defending social security and dissing on Republicans. They should hire some actual libertarians.
Are we reading the same article? They don’t appear to be defending or attacking Social Security; simply noting that something needs to be done. If that something is to retain Social Security as it is then substantial changes will be required to maintain solvency. Alternatively they raise the possibility of a private solution. Don’t see any advocacy for either here. Pretty sure you, as so many readers do, read the headline, decided what the article was going to be based on your personal bias on the subject, and maintained your myopic viewpoint regardless of the actual substance of the article.
I was mocking the people who are conspicuously absent from these comments who will no doubt be calling everyone at Reason anti-Republican leftists in the next set. They know who they are.
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which in this case means finding an alternative way to help Americans plan for retirement before the current system sinks.
Why do i need daddy governments help?
You (personally) probably don’t. Most people probably don’t. But with several generations growing up being told that “the government will take care of you when you get old,” a whole bunch of people will probably need some “guidance.” Requiring a “personal retirement account” is one way to help with that.
So because government created a notion of dependency we are forever required to teach dependency? That is a losing mentality absent of any change.
The estimated hit will be 60-70% of payouts of SS. Not elimination. So those who planned badly will recieve less of a hand out.
SS is already redistribution as it biases to higher payout to paying for poorer earners. It would be like calling for higher welfare payments because it is too little.
Hell if they let me opt out today they can ignore the max I've paid in already for 10 years.
"So because government created a notion of dependency we are forever required to teach dependency?"
Not at all. "Un-teaching" dependency will take some time, and some "encouragement." It starts with parenting and schooling. It's not going to happen overnight. In the meantime, a "personal retirement account" is considerably less of a financial burden on the individual than payroll taxes for SS, and offers considerably more income for retirees.
Lower dependency payments would be a teaching opportunity no? When is this perfect time to reduce dependency already promised? No matter where you put the line you will get complaints. Youre rationalizing the status quo because some may be harmed. That is how government persists.
"Youre rationalizing the status quo because some may be harmed."
I am rationalizing nothing. SS sucks, and always has. But, believe it or not, a large part of the population does not want to see older Americans just left hung-out to dry, even if they are partially responsible for the clothes line on which they are hung .
In other words, there will always be a "life-line" for poor people. Better to have it funded it from their own pockets (through a mandatory savings account), than from my pocket or your pocket. Ideal? Nope. But "Ideal" doesn't exist in the real world.
Unfortunately, the regime is actively and selectively ignorant of realities. Social Security cuts will automatically occur unless they take actions. There is an unwillingness to even entertain the notion of that there should be a conversation. They are so far away fro ever addressing the issues with Social Security that it is laughable.
They also actively and selectively ignorant of the realities related to other budgets. There can't even be a freeze at current expenditures without claims of slashing the budget. Even if you add in the amount of inflation into the mix, the level of increases are such that they claim draconian budget cuts.
The regime needs to be radically thwarted to eliminate the malfeasance gross negligence of our elected officials and non-elected bureaucrats. Both sides of the uni-party need to be electorally tossed out to the curb in mass as we simply can't afford to leave either side in power anymore.
When citizens choose not to vote because they don't want to support the joke of the regime, my question is how is this helping to further the goal of correcting the problem?
To me voting for any third party increases the vote count overall and increases the vote count against the uni-party regime. This makes it more difficult for the uni-party to spin the narrative of garnering a majority of the vote.
If the percentages continue to go down the theory is that more people will find the courage to opt out and vote third party instead of being fearful of the opposite side of the uni-party.
This needs to occur at all levels, not just national elections. More change will occur at the local level, but is not likely of receiving much media attention. As a result the same needs to occur at the local level to increase awareness.
We can't afford to argue over finding the perfect method. We are in a situation where multiple methods need to be taken to achieve the goal of making the regime accountable to the citizenry in a responsible fashion.
Get in line, behind identity and green politics. "Fixing" social security will have to be a real and present crisis before any politician is going to address it, primarily by blaming their opponents. To do so prematurely will just mean getting thrown out of office.
In the real world, Social Security is not going to be eliminated by anyone any time soon. This is a good example of a dynamic at play in politics that people often perceive as disfunction.
Saving Social Security will be relatively simple. What will happen is that congress will vote to push the age of eligibility higher and higher. People on SS will remain on it, but future generations will see their retirement several years later. Don’t believe me? Go talk to any financial planner, or even any congress critter who has been in office more than a few years. Wealth management companies have had this baked in for over a decade. Even my automated Fidelity retirement planning service has features that allow you to model the impact of the age of eligibility being moved out.
But you would not know this reading sites like Reason. Because right now, knowing that it can be saved in a simple manner, Social Security is more useful as a policy wedge than as a “win” for some policy makers who fix it. Reason has a bias against Social Security (don’t get me wrong, so do I). Reason doesn’t care about SAVING social security, they want it gone. And so they will not endorse a simple fix that results in perpetuating the program.
The same thing was on display yesterday when Britschgi was shilling for The Parking Reform Network. There are thousands of things that could make housing more affordable at the federal level. But orgs like PRN don’t really care about affordable housing. What they care about is eliminating cars and remaking our domiciles into “sustainable” urban shitho- er, utopias where all but the elite walk or ride public transit. And so this convoluted anti-parking “fix” gets pushed, even if it makes our zoning even more convoluted by preempting state and local laws.
Don’t get me wrong. I want Social Security gone. If we must have a social safety net for the old, I would endorse a small (<5%) tax for a means tested welfare program, and the remaining balance of our FiCA going to tax-shelter, private accounts. Of course I'd want no compulsion at all, but there you go.
This article thus isn't helpful. No one is going to realistically look at the elimination of Social Security. But because libertarians would rather see it insolvent than perpetuated in its larger form, Boehm only presents limited, politically-untenable options: eliminate it, increase taxes, or let it go insolvent.
I wouldn't care, but this does create problems. Boehm claims to want fiscal responsibility, but his lack of tenable fiscally responsible options just makes this article a bunch of noise. Eventually congress will be forced to move the age of eligibility. The sooner they do that, the easier that will be. The longer they wait, the more people will be impacted. Unfortunately lobbying in the US is dominated by medical, pharma, climate, technology, and all sorts of stuff that doesn't include the AARP. AARP only gets a microphone when they can be used as part of someone else's agenda, just as Reason's message only gets amplified on "affordable housing" when it perpetuates climate change activism.
I largely agree. I will also add that SS will also be "fixed" by increasing the SS cap on taxable income.
It won't be eliminated, no. It won't be means-tested either, because that would finally reveal the lie that it isn't a welfare program.
This is a place where libertarians could stand out - propose some reasonable, sane, practical ideas to solve problems that NEITHER major party is willing to touch. It wasn't that long ago that Team Red was proposing "SS privatization" (as weak as it was). As a starting point Team Libertarian could simply dust off that plan and say "hey, let's start here as a fix".
It could be a decent strategy overall for a third party - stand out from the crowd by proposing ideas that neither party wants to touch.
Raising the cap on pay in also raises the cap on payout. How do you know so little in how the systems you support work.
Raising the retirement age is easy to talk about and hard to do. The people often suggesting the idea work jobs that allow people to continue to work. Look at the average age of the Congress and you can see that the work is not physically demanding.
What do you tell a worker who does physical labor or is on their feet for the eight-hour workday. It may not be an easy thing for them to just work a few more years.
What about employers? Do they want to take on older workers or keep them on payroll. There are plenty of job for old workers, but there are also plenty of employers looking to unload older staff. The tradeoff is not equal and higher paying employers are looking to hire and promote the young, while lower paying employer will hire the older person.
"Do nothing, and benefits will need to be cut by about 20 percent across the board within a decade or so . . . "
But Biden will not be the one, so promises made, promises kept.
How exactly is it “good” to lift the cap on SS taxes? “Libertarians” for more Wealth Transfer!
The cap is there because the benefit is also capped. You are supposed to get back in measure to what you put in. Fvckin commie Reasonistas
I would suggest that raising the cap is a better alternative than to means test SS. In both cases wealthier individual will pay and not get back as much. Raising the cap is simpler and just means moving the point to stop payments into SS.
On the other hand, means testing means more paperwork. First you must decide what the limit is to collect SS and what counts towards your eligibility. It is a wealth tax in reverse where you must determine your wealth to decide if it is low enough to qualify. When is that determined once, when you apply or annually. If you are above the limit one year but you stock portfolio goes down, can you reapply? All this is more government red tape and more SS staff that have to be funded.
While it is not without problem raising the cap is far less complicated and so a better solution.
Kick the can. Seriously. SS does not contribute to the deficit so government would only fuck it up worse.
“Reform” is another word for cut.
The implication of the title of this piece is to cut it now, or cut it later. It’s unstated that cuts now would be less than cuts later, but that appears to be the idea. Sprinkle in the additional idea that social security recipients are rich fat-cat geezers siphoning off the young, so that the piece can conclude that the best solution would be cuts of 100%. So, are cuts bad or not?
If the recipients of social security are primarily the exceedingly rich, how painful could cuts of 20% be? Why should any individual want to reduce their individual benefits now rather than later? For the benefit of the collective? What kind of marxist is this Boehm guy?
Another option is to make SS participation voluntary. (Pay the premiums & get the benefits.)
If people were free to choose, how many would participate in this "popular" program?
It is a good idea in theory, but the problem is, a lot of people will opt out, because they want a bigger paycheck in the short term, then not save any of the money, then when they are too old to work be totally broke and begging the government for money to live on.
So government needs to protect people? That isn't a statist view?
Is the government protecting people or itself? Chemjeff right that letting people opt out will create problems in the future. Better to keep mandatory payment but give people more flexibility in the handling of the funds. Have accounts be directed to the individual with 10% for a disability insurance, a fixed portion that invests but preserves capital, and then a portion than the individual can invest for greater return.
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There will be nothing done till the last minute because in a partisan environment we have that is the only way things happen. The fact is for the Progressives SS is a matter of faith. For Republican the demographic shift to the MAGA right means their base see SS as a paid for benefit.
Want to solve the problem you have to go to the middle and compromise. Is that likely, no.
What is the compromise between cuts and no cuts?
There is plenty of opportunity for compromise, there is a shortage of people willing to work at compromise.
Failing to Reform Social Security Means Mandatory Cuts
Why?
If you want to see how popular pension reforms are, see: Europe.
Failing to reform means cuts but no talking about them
Reforming means cuts AND talking about them
Golly. I wonder why Americans tend to prefer the former
First of all, politicians who are not going to “change the parameters” of social security to improve its fiscal standing are not going to “scrap” social security, so don’t be silly. Secondly, people who are counting on social security for income in the early 2030s have ten years to plan an alternative. Third, even if the politicians fail to do anything meaningful about putting social security on a sound footing, they will simply spend more money they don’t have to keep it running (or bankrupt America trying, unless there’s a crisis before then that throws this entire discussion out the window.) My opinion is, do nothing and let it crash.
Blah blah blah.
Do you want to be the guy who cut social security from 100% to 90% or do you want to be the guy who raised it from 80% to 85%?
We can fix social security with declining birth rates.
Do I have to think of everything, people?
That's almost a modest proposal if you could fix the food problem at the same time
"Failing to Reform Social Security Means Mandatory Cuts"
That way no one Rep., Senator or President has to take the blame for cutting Social Security and everyone is enabled to point a finger at others. Politics as usual.
Bingo. There's a conflict of interest when those put in charge of ensuring Justice becomes a 'business'. Who ensures Justice of the Government Business? The same entity? Thus there is no enforceable justice.
The article is BS. SS will not be insolvent in 2030's. It will be unable to payout what is currently promised, but what is currently promised is largely arbitrary, so not correct to say insolvent.
What will be exposed is that SS has always been a Ponzi scheme. And when a large segment of retirees realizes they will likely get negative rates of return on their 40 plus years "investment" (and younger people understand that they will someday be in the same boat), then rational discussion may be possible.
The easiest way of generating money for Social Security is to add the Senators and Congressmen back into Social Security. They have their own private pension system now. Let them get as much money as the rest of the people for retirement.
I live on Social Security. This is due to large medical bills that had to be paid when my husband died. Cut the Congress salary, it should be an honor not a means of getting rich to serve the government.
Everyone (including the author) is missing the bigger picture. They will never cut benefits, will just print the funding gap. Sure, they may trim around the edges, but they will end up just printing more money to pay seniors. A SS bailout, the easiest way to kick the can. Just like they do periodically with the banks. A bailout for the many state pension plans (and maybe insurance companies) is coming as they are invested in commercial real estate. Since they bailed out banks repeatedly, how can they not morally bailout pension funds and SS?
Inflation will keep rearing it’s ugly head for many, many years to come. This is where fiat currencies go to die. Printing is the easiest way. Either that or it's pitchforks, rocks and torches in the streets.
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