Progressive-Backed Candidate Wins Seat on Wisconsin's Supreme Court
Abortion and gerrymandering are likely to be on the court's docket in the near future, and Janet Protasiewicz ran unabashedly to the left on both issues. Is this the best way to decide contentious topics?

On Tuesday, the biggest political story in the country was clear: former President Donald Trump's indictment on 34 counts of business fraud. But on the same day, Wisconsites elected Milwaukee County Judge Janet Protasiewicz as the newest justice on the state Supreme Court. Protasiewicz, a liberal, defeated conservative Dan Kelly, a former state Supreme Court justice, by 11 points. The results could have major ramifications for policy in the state going forward, but it's worth wondering whether that's a good thing.
The Wisconsin Supreme Court has seven justices who serve 10-year terms, elected by statewide vote on a nonpartisan ticket. Conservative justices currently outnumber liberals on the court 4–3 and have held a majority in some form for 15 years. But when conservative Justice Patience Roggensack announced in December 2021 that she would not seek reelection, both progressives and conservatives poured money into the race to replace her. Total spending on the race topped $45 million ahead of election day. CBS News called the race "the most expensive election of its kind ever."
The race also garnered a lot of attention. CNN said it was "the most consequential election of the year." The New York Times podcast The Daily posited that the race "could reshape Wisconsin, and the country." Ben Wikler, chair of Wisconsin's Democratic Party, said it was "the most important election that nobody's ever heard of."
The level of attention stems from a pair of issues the state's judiciary could soon rule on.
Wisconsin has some of the most gerrymandered electoral maps in the country, stemming from its 2011 redistricting. Despite Gov. Tony Evers, a Democrat, winning election in both 2018 and 2022, Republicans dominate both houses of the state Legislature. Princeton University's independent Gerrymandering Project gives the state an F, citing a "significant Republican advantage." The Legislature drafted the maps currently in use, and the state Supreme Court ratified them last year.
But a new majority could change that. University of Wisconsin-Madison law professor and redistricting expert Rob Yablon told Wisconsin Public Radio that if the court shifted in a more progressive direction, litigants "would almost certainly try to bring a case." Given the justices' 10-year terms, Protasiewicz would have control over not only the current maps but also the maps drawn after 2030.
The court is also likely to weigh in on abortion. The 2022 U.S. Supreme Court decision Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization functionally overturned the national right to an abortion, giving way to a patchwork of state laws. Most states either explicitly allowed the practice or else enacted "trigger laws," by which an abortion ban would automatically go into effect if Roe v. Wade (1973) were ever overturned.
Wisconsin exists in a gray area between those two scenarios. An 1849 state law forbids the practice, deeming it "manslaughter in the first degree." But as the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel wrote last year, "Some legal experts believe subsequent abortion statutes repealed the original 1849 law." Lester Pines, an attorney representing Planned Parenthood in litigation on the law, told the paper, "I don't know if (the state abortion ban) is enforceable or not."
Amid all that legal uncertainty, Wisconsin clinics stopped performing elective abortions after the Dobbs decision. Short of an outright repeal, a judicial ruling is likely the only thing that could bring clarity to the issue.
On each of these subjects, Protasiewicz was outspoken. She told a candidate forum in January, "Let's be clear here: The maps are rigged." And she made abortion a centerpiece of her campaign, saying in ads, "I believe in a woman's freedom to make her own decision on abortion." She cast her opponent as an "extreme partisan" who would uphold the 1849 ban while not saying definitively how she would vote if it came before her.
Notably, this is not even the first time that abortion has factored into a recent Wisconsin election. Last year's race for state attorney general could be seen as a proxy vote on abortion access, as incumbent Josh Kaul ran for reelection promising not to investigate or prosecute violations of the 1849 law, while his Republican opponents pledged to uphold the law as written. (Kaul ultimately won by 1.4 points.)
But Tuesday's election demonstrates the wrong way to fight over politically contentious topics. Legislatures make laws while the judiciary interprets laws. The ideal forum for hashing out differences over legislation is in the actual legislature, not in running judicial candidates who are most likely to rule on those laws in the way you prefer.
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Perhaps white woman will understand one day that the bill of rights and not sexually mutilating kids and pushing tribal "equity" is more important than abortion. Until then expect emotional nutjobs to run the country. But this does push the idea of national divorce by contiguous counties along nicely. Most of WI can join adjacent free states and leave the Milwaukee and Madison as city states...
> not sexually mutilating kids
what are you talking about and why are you thinking about children's genitals all day???
That seems to be the party platform for the cultural marxists these days. When a party advocates genocide it seems sane non degenerate folks would mention this.
Coming from the guy who got his account banned for posting dark web links to hardcore child pornography, this is pretty funny shreek. Also, he's talking about the deranged lunatics like you who want to cut the dicks off of 5 year old little boys and reattach them to 5 year old little girls because they don't conform to gender stereotypes.
They way to not think of them is to have them removed.
Thus begins the Kritarchy of Wisconsin.
"Is this the best way to decide contentious topics?"
As opposed to torches and pitchforks?
On each of these subjects, Protasiewicz was outspoken. She told a candidate forum in January, "Let's be clear here: The maps are rigged." And she made abortion a centerpiece of her campaign, saying in ads, "I believe in a woman's freedom to make her own decision on abortion."
So she will recuse from any case about these issues because of clear and open bias?
You're running to be a judge, not a legislator. Your personal beliefs and preferences shouldn't matter. As a judge, you're supposed to decide cases based on the law.
Of course, "liberal" judges do this all the time (i.e., decide cases based on their personal preferences). The U.S. Constitution says absolutely nothing about "the right to have an abortion," yet in Roe v. Wade seven Supreme Court justices somehow found such a right. What integrity!
Let me guess, Soros pumped a lot if money in.
WACISSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh hey, that reminds me. Clump of cells turned one year old recently.
babies rock.
Hopefully they won't have issues as they get older. That's awfully young.
the parents of course will be responsible for 100% of their lifelong medical care should they need it, as per glibertarian reasoning
Because the parents are libertarians and also don't live in a shit hole country with socialized health care? Want to take another crack at that one, shreek? You actually went back, re-read what you wrote, edited it, and this is STILL the best you could shit out?
This was inevitable after the Bork hearings. Once Supreme Court justice nominations became political, it was only a matter of time before that trickled down to the state level as well.
As someone said in the Links thread, this is basically just a confirmation that judges are considered superlegislators now. So what happens when someone decides the judge's decision doesn't have any standing because they don't actually represent a politician's own constituents?
This is also why a national divorce is inevitable, it's just a question of when. You can't have a United States when 45% of the country has a fundamentally different vision of how the nation should be than another 45%, and the remaining 10% are too small to influence anything other than the side they inevitably pick.
A national divorce doesn't work. As XKCD pointed out, "There are more Trump voters in California than Texas, more Biden voters in Texas than New York, more Trump voters in New York than Ohio, more Biden voters in Ohio than Massachusetts, more Trump voters in Massachusetts than Mississippi, and more Biden voters in Mississippi than Vermont."
And you can't have one country that's just all the major cities and another that's just the suburbs and rural areas.
Well done. And thanks for the reminder of xkcd
election of judges rings wrong with me.
Me too. Of course you get ideological appointments with appointed judges too. But my perception at least is that when there are judicial elections ideology more important and there are stronger incentives for a candidate to follow the perceived will of the voters, which is not how the legal system should work.
we do it in Texas too it creeps me out.
What's wrong with a democratic interpretation of the law?
lol exactly.
Well, for one thing, it means that the rest of the elections get nullified because there's no restraint by the judicial branch. Your state legislature passes an antiabortion law? Too bad, you lost the state supreme court races, so it's getting struck down for no good reason.
There's no great solution here. Constitutional rights mean nothing if the majority can simply pretend they don't exist, but any body with the power to interpret a constitution and strike down laws that violate it also has the power to strike down legitimate laws.
You like it better when the Chief Executive appoints a "wise Latina" or "keep[s] his campaign promise to nominate a Black woman" (source)?
not knowing who made the most campaign contributions directly to the judge is worse imho
Again, the election of politically-aligned, activist Judge in Milwaukee in the background of show trials, waning free-speech, and widespread political corruption and oppression really creeps me out too.
nice dig.
Would you prefer civil service, as with ALJs?
maybe. Soros would figure a way to line up Soros volunteers lol.
No!
Women want body autonomy instead of some Statist asshole telling them what to do with their vaginas?
Women want body autonomy
As long as they’re masked and vaccinated, I don’t care what they do.
Women, sure. Girls who wear jeans, workboots, or flannel however, need to have their breasts cut off and be started on hormone blockers pronto, before they develop into women with bodily autonomy.
are you for ending the selective service act? And hell..the govt has zero right to tax my income...I want control over my labor..we could go on and on...
Nobody tell shreek the biologist that a uterus and a vagina are not the same thing.
This is what happens when you've never had sexual intercourse except with prepubescent little boys, I guess.
Look at that picture and tell me she’s not crazy.
drunk with power and pinot grigio
wine swigging chubby white woman are a threat to liberty...time for Reason to point that out...very very dangeous folks. Many hope they have a kid they can convince to be sexual mutilated so they can be on tik tok and the cool mom in their wine chugging circles.
Rome all over again.
"Let's be clear here: The maps are rigged."
Having prejudged the subject matter she ought to recuse if it comes up to her.
Actually it turns out the maps are rugged, granted the story got buried when the msm found out the dems are way worse at gerrymandering than the gop
The "conservative" state supreme court originally approved the maps made by the Democratic governor. Those were struck down by SCOTUS as being impermissibly race-based, so the state supreme court then went with the maps made by the Republican state legislature.
Meanwhile, here's what her opponent had to say in his concession speech:
"I wish that in a circumstance like this, I would be able to concede to a worthy opponent. But I do not have a worthy opponent to which I can concede. This was the most deeply deceitful, dishonorable, despicable campaign I have ever seen run for the courts. It was truly beneath contempt...
My opponent is a serial liar. She's disregarded judicial ethics. She's demeaned the judiciary with her behavior. And this is the future that we have to look forward to in Wisconsin.
I have been committed to the rule of law my entire career. I understand this to be the most fundamental, basic promise of civilization. And in its heart it lives in the judiciary and if not there, nowhere at all.
We had this laid out plainly before us, we have the rule of law or the rule of Janet. And the people of Wisconsin have chosen the rule of Janet."
https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1643442166214033409
^The equivalent of swearing a blue streak in WI.
If the quotes in the article are true, it seems to me that she's conflicted herself out from actually deciding either of those "controversial issues". A motion to recuse based on "Let's be clear here: The maps are rigged." seems like it should be a slam-dunk.
She will recuse herself on such issues exactly like Justice Kagan did with the Obamacare cases. No way in hell.
There is no requirement for that in any court, anywhere. It used to be left to "judicial ethics." You should be proud! This is what psychotic left wing pieces of shit like you have been advocating for half a century.
The Wisconsin Code of Judicial Ethics says:
Having seen her campaign ads, it's pretty clear that she'd violate this if she ruled on the antiabortion law without recusing herself. And nobody from either side thinks she's going to recuse herself.
Of course, the state supreme court has the ultimate say in whether a judge has violated this code, and the liberals have the majority now, so it's assumed that any attempt to enforce this expected violation would result in a 3-3 tie (assuming the person in question recuses) and thus result in no action taken.
Our country is rotting. Our government is rotting. Our legal system is rotting.
I wish you weren't telling the truth here.
Q: What's the biggest difference between the U.S. and any Third World country?
A: The rule of law.
The people of Wisconsin have just voted to become a Third World country.
(But hey, at least they'll be able to have all the abortions they want!)
I for one support abortion for all progressives, regardless of age or concent
Judges having to run for election is one of the most awful things to occur in politics in this country. I still can't believe anywhere still does it.
We had an election for a county judge. Our state (Oklahoma) justices are appointed but we get to vote for retention. If a justice is bad enough to not be retained, they probably deserve to lose.
That's how we do the state district court and all the way up to Supreme Court judges in MO, also. Appointed by the executive branch, confirmed by the legislative branch, retained by the people.
Most people vote either to retain everybody or nobody, and the judges are almost always retained, but at least there are no campaign commercials.
One nice thing about voting in 2020 was being able to look up the judges bios while I was voting. It can be hard remembering who is who.
Because it would be better if they were benevolent dictators for life, appointed by the administrative state cathedral? Fuck off you stupid cunt.
If the donkey party had to run on something other than abortion and the elephant party had to run on something other than tranny bathrooms, very few would vote for either of them.
Let's see:
- Party A wants unrestricted abortions and biological males in girls' / women's bathrooms.
- Party B doesn't.
Must be a tough choice for you!
Kinda funny how the elephant party didn't give a single flying fuck about tranny bathrooms until the donkey party's policies resulted in girls getting raped in their school bathrooms by trannies. But yep totally the same. BOAF SIDEZ!!!!! amirite?
Milwaukee was ruled by actual socialists for years. If anything it is a miracle the rest of WI ever gets an opportunity to win anything.
Just like Illinois, Michigan and Minnesota, Wisconsin is going to waste away. It cannot be stopped. Anyone with the means to do so should leave.
The words of the statute mean only what the Judges say they mean. Welcome to the world of ad-hoc decisions.
"Given the justices' 10-year terms, Protasiewicz would have control over not only the current maps but also the maps drawn after 2030." Surely some of the other seats will come up for election before then. You can't count on a 4-3 Democratic split lasting until 2030.
don't worry, those elections will be 'fortified'
Plus apparently you can still contest the 2030 maps *after* 2033 to wait for a better court if necessary.
"The ideal forum for hashing out differences over legislation is in the actual legislature, not in running judicial candidates who are most likely to rule on those laws in the way you prefer."
Okay that seems reasonable.
"Wisconsin has some of the most gerrymandered electoral maps in the country, stemming from its 2011 redistricting. Despite Gov. Tony Evers, a Democrat, winning election in both 2018 and 2022, Republicans dominate both houses of the state Legislature. Princeton University's independent Gerrymandering Project gives the state an F, citing a "significant Republican advantage." The Legislature drafted the maps currently in use..."
Ummm... I am sensing a disconnect here. The Legislature, which should decide these contentious issues...drafted the "most gerrymandered electoral maps in the country." Why should the average Wisconsin resident be subject to the whims of a legislature that does not adequately reflect Wisconsin? A GOP legislature makes a map ensuring GOP majority in the legislature. Does that majority not also control the legislative agenda? Who sits at the head of committees? Decide what bills get put to a vote or get voted out of committees? Why rely on that flawed process?
After all, it was the previous make up of the WI SUP CT which upheld the most gerrymandered electoral map in the US with a slight conservative majority. They weren't acting partisan in doing so? Give me a fkn break.
It's OK, they also give Illinois an F.
Funny how this Chicago fuckstain conveniently ignores that.
If by "Chicago" you mean "Dog Dick Georgia" since this is one of shreek's socks, and that's where he actually lives.
It's all just so unfair, isn't it shreek? Just because Democrats are all cloistered into high density section 8 apartment buildings in the shit hole downtown areas of crumbling urban cities doesn't mean they shouldn't get a say in other districts throughout the state!
Did you know that the Wisconsin supreme court originally approved the Democratic governor's maps? Those were struck down by SCOTUS. It was only then that they approved the maps from the Republican state legislature. Yeah, the court is too partisan, but there was one conservative who was willing to flip, and I don't know how much you can blame the court for picking the Republican proposal *after* the other one was struck down by a different court.
wine swigging chubby white woman are a threat to liberty...time for Reason to point that out...very very dangeous folks. Many hope they have a kid they can convince to be sexual mutilated so they can be on tik tok and the cool mom in their wine chugging circles.
When liberals think of “love,” they think of one deviant man rolling around in a bed, looking longingly at his “husband’s” anus, and engaging in adequate foreplay to get his diseased ramrod hard enough to drive it into his lower intestine, thrusting in and out until a torrent of greasy, thick, HIV infused man juice goes flying into the inner sanctum of the other “man’s” colon, gasping at the disgustingness of it all. Yuck.
The same people who think "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" allows for gun bans also think that vague references to due process and equal protection creates a "right" of a woman to kill her baby and a "right" of a gay man to insert his erect member into another man's anus, shoot a powerful load of HIV infected splooge inside, and get "married." They're sick sick people.
Wisconsin lawyer here. What's really frustrating is that the abortion case is not (or at least should not) be about a "right" to abortion. Rather, it's a really dry question, interesting only to super legal nerds, about in what circumstances later legislation repeals earlier statutes. A judge could believe abortion is a fundamental right and rule that the 1849 ban was not repealed, and a judge could believe abortion is pure murder and rule that the 1849 ban was repealed.
It's also an interesting case because it has this bizarre setup of the state's Democratic Attorney General suing the county District Attorneys in the two most Democratic counties seeking to stop them from enforcing the ban. Leaving aside the eye-rolling instance of consensually being sued... what the hell is the state's top law enforcement officer doing suing to stop other officials from enforcing laws?
It's a close call. The statutes together don't make a lot of sense; the newer law has lesser penalties despite being narrower in scope. However, it's clear that the newer law was only passed because Roe made enforcing the first one impossible. And certainly the legislature knows how to repeal laws if they want to do so, or to replace old text with new text. They left the old one on the books intentionally for exactly this circumstance of Roe being overturned.
For that reason, I would rule that it's still in force. (But I'd ban any prosecutions for violations of the old law done while Roe was in effect. If the judicial branch says you have a constitutional right to do something, you should generally be able to rely on that, even if they change their minds later.)
Good luck with your commie cunt Wisconsin.
To answer the question from your subhead, no. THE PROBLEM is state legislatures having the ability to choose their own voters (or choose who votes for the other legislators). We should not need the Courts to determine whether congressional maps are fair or not. But when a legislature is able to gerrymander power to itself, so that it can then gerrymander national power into the hands of its chosen politicians, that's why we need court backstops. I actually would prefer the state legislatures to decide the congressional maps, as dictated by the Constitution, but only if their power was checked elsewhere.
What do we think of a system that allows people to chose the people that pick them. Imagine you got to pick the person writing your evaluation at work. State legislators don’t draw maps they approve maps draw by consulting firm. I just think the consulting firms should be neutral and the criteria for maps transparent to public
People like Roe as it was. The country and Republicans would be better off just to pass Roe into law. It will happen eventually anyway.
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