U.S. State Department Funds a Disinformation Index That Warns Advertisers To Avoid Reason
Reason is listed among the "ten riskiest online news outlets" by a government-funded disinfo tracker.

The Global Disinformation Index (GDI) is a British organization that evaluates news outlets' susceptibility to disinformation. The ultimate aim is to persuade online advertisers to blacklist dangerous publications and websites.
One such publication, according to GDI's extremely dubious criteria, is Reason.
GDI's recent report on disinformation notes that the organization exists to help "advertisers and the ad tech industry in assessing the reputational and brand risk when advertising with online media outlets and to help them avoid financially supporting disinformation online."
The U.S. government evidently values this work; in fact, the State Department subsidizes it. The National Endowment for Democracy—a nonprofit that has received $330 million in taxpayer dollars from the State Department—contributed hundreds of thousands of dollars to GDI's budget, according to an investigation by The Washington Examiner's Gabe Kaminsky.
Should the State Department spend public money to help an organization pressure advertisers to punish U.S. media companies? The answer, quite obviously, is no: The First Amendment prohibits the U.S. government from censoring private companies for good reason, and government actors should not seek to evade the First Amendment's protections in order to censor indirectly or exert pressure inappropriately.
The Washington Examiner, which was included on GDI's list of risky media outlets, confirmed that it has lost out on revenue due to advertisers heeding GDI's federally subsidized concerns. (An internal GDI memo singles out Amazon for purchasing ad space on an Examiner article that allegedly included right-wing misinformation.)
But GDI evidently considers Reason even more threatening than The Washington Examiner. Reason is listed among GDI's 10 allegedly absolute "riskiest online news outlets," alongside the New York Post, Real Clear Politics, The Daily Wire, The Blaze, One America News Network, The Federalist, Newsmax, The American Spectator, and The American Conservative.

Reason's rating was due to three factors, according to GDI: "no information regarding authorship attribution, pre-publication fact-checking or post-publication corrections processes, or policies to prevent disinformation in its comments section."
It is not clear precisely what GDI means—the organization did not respond to requests for comment, and it has not made its full scoring analysis available to the public. But contrary to what GDI suggests, the authorship of Reason articles is clearly communicated to readers. Reason writers link to their sources, and promptly make (and note) corrections whenever appropriate. It's true that Reason does not specifically police disinformation in the comments section; that is perhaps an area where Reason's philosophy—free minds and free markets—clashes with GDI's.
When evaluated by a misinformation-tracking organization that uses transparent and objective metrics, Reason fares much better. NewsGuard—an evaluator co-founded by Gordon Crovitz, former publisher of The Wall Street Journal—gives Reason a perfect score of 100/100 and does not steer advertisers away. NewsGuard gives The Examiner a score of 92.5/100; in a recent op-ed for that publication, Crovitz explained how NewsGuard's processes differ from the opaque blacklisting system preferred by GDI:
Unlike the ratings of news sites done by the entities cited in the Washington Examiner series (the nonprofit GDI and the multibillion-dollar ad tech companies IAS and DoubleVerify), NewsGuard ratings are done with full transparency and disclosure, using only apolitical criteria. Everything is done by humans, including the ratings by our analysts of all the news and information sites that account for 95% of engagement in the United States and the other countries where we operate.
Each site gets a score from 0-100 based on nine basic criteria of journalistic practice. Unlike others, we don't rely on artificial intelligence—only human intelligence can be held accountable to be accurate and apolitical.
Publishers can also make changes to address our questions. More than one-quarter of the sites we've rated, including many conservative sites, have improved their scores by making additional disclosures or otherwise improving their practices after engaging with our analysts.
As NewsGuard's evaluation makes clear, Reason is not an unsafe website, and if GDI is pretending otherwise, then this government-funded hall monitor is the one spreading disinformation.
It is also worth noting that GDI ranked the 10 so-called "lowest-risk" online news outlets, which include: NPR, The Associated Press, The New York Times, ProPublica, Insider, USA Today, The Washington Post, BuzzFeed News, The Wall Street Journal, and HuffPost. Many of these publications frequently produce admirable journalism. But they are not immune to disinformation—HuffPost, for instance, repeatedly suggested that the New York Post's infamous Hunter Biden laptop story was Russian misdirection. Notably, NewsGuard gives HuffPost a score of 87.5/100.
If a self-described disinformation-tracking organization wants to loudly proclaim, in partisan fashion, that advertisers should only use mainstream and liberal news sites, it has that right. But advertisers should take note of its obvious bias, total lack of transparency in detailing media outlets' scores, and other methodological issues. And the State Department certainly has no business helping to fund it.
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Probably just the libertarian* comments section.
* This excludes the sea lion, the schizophrenic simp, the pedophile, the drunk and the racial collectivist.
"the racial collectivist"
Would that be the same racial collectivist who defends CRT and warns about "fascism" while sharing essays like this begging "Dark Brandon" to save us?
He's like totally the most libertarian person here.
The fat racial collectivist that demanded people wear face diapers to ostensibly protect him from the mild flu after he had over two years to flatten his curves.
The US Disinformation bureau was actually founded during WW1 by the anti war president Wilson under advisement from his newly appointed counsel to WW1 and controversial Supreme Court appointment Louis Brandeis.
In their entire 2022 report the words truth and lie were never even mentioned.
Reason was also the only “risky” source to have their comments section mentioned. Nice, hahaha
That's because both Wilson and Brandeis were dead by 2022.
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Wilson was so anti-war that he dragged us into one.
Wilson was a puppet.
Samuel “Landman wrote that once the British had agreed to help the Zionists, this information was communicated to the press, which he reported rapidly began to favor the U.S. joining the war on the side of Britain.[xxi]
Landman claimed that Zionists had fulfilled their side of the contract and that it was “Jewish help that brought U.S.A. into the war on the side of the Allies,” thus causing the defeat of Germany.[xxii] He went on to state that this had “rankled” in Germany ever since and “contributed in no small measure to the prominence which anti-Semitism occupies in the Nazi programme.”
British Colonial Secretary Lord Cavendish also wrote about this agreement and its result in a 1923 memorandum to the British Cabinet, stating: “The object [of the Balfour Declaration] was to enlist the sympathies on the Allied side of influential Jews and Jewish organizations all over the world… [and] it is arguable that the negotiations with the Zionists…did in fact have considerable effect in advancing the date at which the United States government intervened in the war.”[xxiii]
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British Prime Minister Lloyd George with Leopold Amery, Jan. 1, 1918. (Amery was a secret and fervent Zionist.)
Former British Prime Minister Lloyd George similarly referred to the deal, telling a British commission in 1935: “Zionist leaders gave us a definite promise that, if the Allies committed themselves to giving facilities for the establishment of a national home for the Jews in Palestine, they would do their best to rally Jewish sentiment and support throughout the world to the Allied cause. They kept their word.”[xxiv]”
Which says fuck all about how Wilson was supposedly a puppet.
By the way, The House Un-American Activities Committee was created at this time, and they actually accused American Jews of being pro-Kaiser because German Jews were so loyal to the Kaiser.
Why would American and British Jews want to instigate a war against their own people halfway around the world if the Jews are so cliquish and tight and conspiratorial?
Riddle me that! And Fuck Off, Nazi!
Oh, and why would German Jews want to make themselves cannon fodder to American Jews and British Jews if, again, they were all part of the same world-aspiring conspiracy?
Riddle harder! And Fuck Off, Nazi!
It shows that Wilson was part of the Zionist plan to steal Palestine by sacrificing American lives in a war he campaigned on staying out of.
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So you take Wilson’s Presidential Campaign at it’s word when it said: “He Kept Us Out Of War,” when in fact, Wilson brought the U.S. into that meat-grinder known at the time as “The Great War” ?
I bet you also think it was “The War To End All Wars” too, right?
I bet you also love that Wilson was in fact a Racist, Anti-Semitic, Xenophobic, Segregationist and Eugenicist, right?
Well, that’s all par for the course for someone so deluded he thinks the Holocaust was a lie!
How the Hell are you going to outlaw lying when you yourself obviously don’t know what the truth is and you willfully propagate untruths yourself?
Fuck Off, Nazi!
Which makes it all the more unlikely that Wilson would willingly put his established political career in jeopardy by appointing the Zionist Jew Louis Brandeis on the Supreme Court, and to negotiate the Balfour Declaration bringing the US into WW1, the way he did.
Was he being blackmailed?
Mary Peck with whom Wilson had been having an affair, writing love letters and sending her money was offered great sums of money for her evidence by people who wanted leverage over Wilson at the time.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2018/09/16/the-secret-letters-to-another-woman-that-a-president-never-wanted-public/
So where is the evidence of blackmailing Wilson? And when will you answer my questions above about why supposedly conspiratorial Jews on different sides of WWI would want to instigate a war in which they might fight and kill each other?
Fuck Off, Nazi!
I never claimed that he was blackmailed, did I fuckwit?
You said that he was a racist antisemite, yet he stuck his neck out to appoint a controversial Zionist Jew to the Supreme Court and negotiate the Balfour Declaration deal that sacrificed American lives so Jews could steal Palestine.
He was clearly vulnerable to blackmail at the time.
Why? For Israel for the “chosen people” of course.
You asked the question about blackmail, and you certainly think Wilson was open to blackmail, and that this blackmail woild benefit Jews, fuckwit!
And Wilson's policies certainly weren't pro-Jewish in his support for Eugenics and his love of watching The Anti-Semitic Ku Klux Klan on his private movie screening of The Birth of a Nation, no matter what his sentiments towards Brandeis and other Jews.
And Wilson's propaganda against Germans was admired so much by Joseph Goebbels that Goebbels later used the techniques against Jews. Again, hardly pro-Jewish.
Fuck Off, Nazi!
Most of that is absolutely true AND none of it refutes anything that I said.
Golly, it's hard to imagine why anyone would think to suggest avoiding Reason...
Your need to not be offended will be ridiculed here, as it should have been from the start in every setting.
Good link. Pravda in English ($25 a pop) used to refer to communism first as socialism, then as a mixed economy. Collecting "definitions" of fascism validates the conclusion that it is "a heavily mixed economy that elects christian looters." (all looters rob at gunpoint). The alternative heavily-mixed economies (pay no attention to libertarians) elect fewer christians and more communist, freethinker, moslem and whatnot looters. That's as blurry as it gets distinguishing among altruists who die for the initiation of force. No thanks.
(all looters rob at gunpoint)
So Government. Got it.
I find it somewhat ironic that the majority of the commentariat on a libertarian magazine's website are hostile towards anyone and anything remotely libertarian, while claiming to be libertarian.
It's no wonder the authors distance themselves from the comments.
Nobody cares.
True. This place is the used diaper of online commentary
Largely due to leftist like you.
So stop commenting here if you want to make it better.
Which is a shame. If you go back about ten years it was full of witty, insightful conversation.
TDS is a terrible disease there, Mike.
You weren't here 10 years ago. You started posting when you thought you could start gaslighting for the left while proclaiming to be a libertarian.
In spite of commenters like you.
actual libertarian articles on this site are rare. And just because an article is about prostitutes and open borders and abortion does not necessarily make it libertarian when the end goals of those are not libertarian
The fact that many libertarians disagree with conservatives on social issues does not make them leftists, no matter how many times the New Right commentariat shouts it.
What are your libertarian thoughts on the $100B plus of military aid Biden (D) has sent to Ukraine?
The simple principled answer would be to avoid foreign entanglements. As in somebody else's problem.
My personal thoughts are evolving. Do you know who Andrew Heaton is? He's the tall dorky guy in a lot of the Reason videos. He's got a podcast called "The Political Orphanage" and there's been at least three recent episodes on the subject with guests who all have different points of view. I highly recommend it if you're not afraid to leave your echo chamber.
At this point I'm of the belief that the conflict is a proxy war between NATO and Russia using Ukrainians as cannon fodder, and that continuing it will only result in the destruction of a country and a culture. However Ukraine will not back down, and neither will Russia. So I don't have an answer as to how I think it should end. It's a big fucking mess.
Not sure if that's the answer you were looking for, being that you're convinced I'm a hardcore leftist, but there it is.
So stay the course until something happens? That would include continuing to use US taxpayer money and US money printing to fund a regime considered by western media as the most corrupt a few weeks before the SMO in a place that does not directly threaten the US increasing the risk of blowback.
If Heaton is an American journalist, I’m not interested in layperson pontifications. I get my news about this from Ukrainians and Russians. I have also spoken with my Romanian friends living there, with a Russian friend in Russia and with a Ukrainian acquaintance who grew up in Crimea still living in Europe.
I agree with you on, “It is a big fucking mess.”
So stay the course until something happens?
That is not what I said.
If Heaton is an American journalist, I’m not interested in layperson pontifications.
Neither am I. Like I said, if you avoid challenges to your beliefs and prefer to limit your information intake to things you already agree with, then by all means avoid that podcast.
If you might be interested in a podcast where the well educated host has civil interviews with contrasting viewpoints without it turning into a shouting match, then I suggest you check it out.
You didn’t see how it will end and offered no suggestions how you might want to see it go differently. Is that not “stay the course until something changes”?
Listening to a layperson American journalist would be a timewaster for me. I think one of the shortcomings if Reason is the editors largely write about things they have not experienced. JD’s article about his homeschooled son getting accepted into engineering school was great because he lived that and was able to personally articulate that journey of homeschool to university.
My beliefs are listen to the folks actually involved, those with personal experience, who are personally affected and ask questions. Call me stubborn but I’m not changing that. Pontificators are not interesting to me. Round tables of pontificators less so. I’ll get my eastern Europe info directly from eastern Europe.
You didn’t see how it will end and offered no suggestions how you might want to see it go differently. Is that not “stay the course until something changes”?
No. It's I don't know.
Pontificators are not interesting to me. Round tables of pontificators less so.
That's not what his show is about. But it looks like that's what you've decided that it is without listening to it, and I can't change your mind. Even though his latest episode was an interview with a guy from the area who has a podcast on Soviet history, who has lost friends and family in the war, you've decided it's roundtable pontification.
Whatever dude.
This is actually kind of funny. You're asking me to pontificate, refuse to accept "I don't know" as an answer, while saying you're not interested in pontification. Make up your mind.
The do nothing option is stay the course.
If you like the format and content, you should continue consuming it. I’ll continue to get info from folks still there, both strangers and those with whom I have relationships.
I think back to when I traveled from Constanta, Romania to Balchik to see the palace and arboretum. The Bulgarian immigration control detained us for a bit. That was more exciting than a podcast.
Again, I didn't say "Do nothing." I said "I don't know."
Why are you so anxious to put words into my mouth?
“I don’t know” offers no changes. No changes accepts, by default, staying the course. You don’t need to have an opinion or offer changes. But voting “present” or “unsure” means more of the same. More of the same means tens of billions more in military aid to a corrupt regime. You may not be implicitly supporting it, but you’re not opposing it. Keep dancing sarc.
What I would like to see would be an intact Ukraine with Russia pushed out (without Putin starting a nuclear war to save face). I don’t know if that is an achievable goal, and if so how to get there. So my answer is “I don’t know.” Anything else that you read into that is just voices in your head.
I'm not offering changes because I don't know. Any answer to "What would you do differently in Ukraine" would be pointless pontificating. You just said you're not interested in that. So why do you insist upon me giving you specifics? This is turning into one of those runarounds where I question your intellectual honesty.
You’re now just dancing. Do you oppose the US govt providing additional military funding and materiel to Ukraine? Any answer other than “Yes” means that it would continue.
As I said, I'd like to see Ukraine push the Russians out. If US military funding could achieve that goal then I'd reluctantly support it. However I'm not convinced that that will happen, or if it even the goal of those providing the funding. So that makes me lean against continued funding. Being that I don't know, I have to say that I don't know. Why is that so difficult to understand?
Sarc, if it is an i dont know why do you openly attack those against the war while defending it prior? Don't gaslight now because you were called a hypocrite.
I thought to myself, “How could JesseAz turn this conversation into a personal attack? Maybe he’s actually adding to the conversation about funding violence in Ukraine, and not posting something with the word ‘you’ in every sentence.”
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As always the comment follows the familiar format of accusing me of saying or doing something I never said nor did (otherwise known as gaslighting), expecting me to defend it, and then accusing me of gaslighting. I'm starting to think he's not very bright.
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Post the list!
I did look at it once and the amount of Tulpa socks (A handle made from two names, often has a pun or historical reference, and talks the same exact shit. I say to it “Hi Tulpa” before muting it. A new one shows up every week.) was crazy. Pages and pages of them.
Alberto Balsalm for example. It will be gone by the end of the week, and replaced by a new one.
You watched a podcast so it seemed like you would have figured out whether throwing more money after $100B and playing proxy war in the backyard of the world’s largest nuclear power is something to support or not.
I got through customs after they figured out that they didn’t let me on the continent where they could point the finger at another. Queen Mary’s palace and the cacti arboretum makes for a nice day trip. The adjacent beach was topless so there is that if you want to see Black Sea boobies.
You watched a podcast so it seemed like you would have figured out whether throwing more money after $100B and playing proxy war in the backyard of the world’s largest nuclear power is something to support or not.
Dude. Are you functionally retarded? What part of "I don't know" and "my thoughts are evolving" leads you to believe I've figured it out?
What are your thoughts on the subject of funding the war?
The SMO has only been going on for a year where that isn’t long to get an idea of what is occurring, whether $100B was well spent and other related issues.
I oppose all financial and military involvement in eastern Europe as well as any other foreign country. Non-interventionism is a libertarian principle as is the NAP, which gets ignored when the nation gets a warboner and plays Karen. It is expensive and usually lately leads to disaster. For reference, see Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan. None of those nations could nuke every major metro area in the west; Russia can.
Calling you a hypocrite is valid. I can post your pro Ukraine comments if you like. No new information exists or changed. So what is your excuse to dropping support now? You attacked those against US funding prior as well. Yet now you demand nuance and acceptance of your position. Odd don't you think?
Its parents didn't name it Chumpy for nothing.
That took the wit of Fetterman to create. Well done sir. You are a supra genius.
To be clear he's not a libertarian. He's libertarianish, but not a die-hard deontological dufus.
You’re not allowed to have evolving thoughts!!!
Apparently. I'm also not allowed to identify a problem without having a solution. That's been made abundantly clear by several of the commentariat.
No. It is your actions. You attack the anti war here because you think they are conservatives. You've defended the war prior but only now change when it is pointed out youre a hypocrite.
Maybe I helped sarc change his mind about supporting Ukraine.
I'd have to have my mind made up for you to change it. That's what "I don't know" means you retard.
You already have. You want Ukraine to win.
When you open attack those who give you correct information and only evolve when the evidence is insurmountable... yes youre a llying fuck. When those attacks are also calling everyone who was always on the libertarian side far right conservatives, youre a lying leftist fuck.
Both of you continued to call those against social media censorship conspiracy theorists just a month ago.
Ukraine is a gotcha game for the US taxpayer. There is no winning move with many losing ones (blowback, nuclear exchange being two).
You are free to go there now and volunteer. Should you, please leave my flag off your kit.
Ahhh yes. The ultimate ad hominem. "You're wrong because you're not willing to do this, that or the other thing!" Right on par with "Love it or leave it!" Derp.
I didn’t make an either/or statement. I suggested Mike is free to go there. You’re in strawman and wishful thinking territory. Had I made a statement about words not matching actions, that isn’t ad hominem.
Had I made a statement about words not matching actions, that isn’t ad hominem.
What is the purpose of such a statement if not to say their argument is wrong because they're a hypocrite? That's the definition of one of the most fashionable fallacies around here, the tu quoqoe.
"I have this thought about this subject."
"Oh yeah? Well what about when you said or did that other thing? Huh? That means what you said about this thing is wrong!"
Passes for logical argument in these comments.
More wishful thinking. If someone claims to support Ukraine, including transferring US money there and providing materiel, but does not do so individually I have not used that as a reason for not supporting Ukraine.
Revisit your understanding of tu quoque. If I burned someone’s steak and you called me out on it saying that was wrong, me telling you that you also did it (as a reason to make your claim invalid) is tu quoque.
You've openly supported the US funding the Ukraine conflict you lying neocon.
It was fun parsing that out.
I just get annoyed how him and Mike attack those holding true to libertarian principles as conservative then demands nobody ever call him a neocon or leftist as his position evolves to get closer to the positions he declared conservative prior.
People don’t change but they can become a better version of themselves. Maybe sarc’s position will evolve to become non-interventionist.
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Bidenomics:
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No, your leftism, and constant water carrying for authoritarian leftist democrats is what makes you a leftist.
You’re not a libertarian Sarc, accept it.
Hmmm… Let’s take these one at a time, in reverse order:
abortion
I think you’re right. Sure, the “mothers” (ha!) want “freedom” to abort their baby up until the moment of birth. But what about the baby’s rights & freedoms?!
open borders
Again, I think you’re right. I found this essay pretty convincing:
Libertarianism in One Country
prostitutes
You lost me here. I’d say that consenting adults ought to be free to engage in any sexual activity they want, with or without an accompanying financial exchange. I guess I don’t see how “the end goal” of such an approach would not be libertarian.
We feel the exact same way about the writers.
So, then why not value your personal time and not spend it here?
That's why you'll always be White Knight to me.
Heard he was pretty awesome.
Are you still pretending it wasn't you?
Wow. Such dishonesty.
Maybe it was Tulpa hijacking Mike’s account again.
Because the comments are where libertarianism happens.
I swear I’ve seen you comment on the blog posts many times, as if you’ve spent time reading them.
...the majority of the commentariat on a libertarian magazine’s website are hostile towards anyone and anything remotely libertarian, while claiming to be libertarian."
True. Most anyone with libertarian ideas or capable of arguing in good faith left the commentariate long time ago. Now all that remains are a bunch of Republicans that are only capable of Ad Hominem and constantly white knight for each other (or their socks). Not sure why Reason even has comments at this point.
Hi Tulpa.
You're Tulpa....and a pedo. You should just change your name to to PedoTulpa.
I’m not sure that fair. Sarc may be a worthless, drunken, pathological liar, and a leftist rageaholic, but I’m not seeing where he’s a pedophile like Shrike, or a groomer like Jeffy. Did I miss something?
That's rich coming from you, considering your side advocates for that very type of thing. See Yoel Roth for an example.
Sarc. This is called projection on your part. Your only care for principles is who is saying something. You have literally disagreed with shrike in a comment and then called others disagreeing with him liars in the same thread. You stated those libertarians against masking and vaccine mandates were trump supporting conspiracy cultists while you defended the shit. Going as far as to call forced covid camps just quarantine camps. You've supported the J6 nonsense, defended censorship, defended the russia hoax, etc etc.
Youre not a libertarian. Youre an anti trump neocon.
And you're just a Trump Republican that makes up shit about other people because you are incapable of arguing in good faith.... but mostly you're just an annoying asshole that hears what he wants to.
I can post all the shit from him Mike sock. I don't even support trump. I am anti lies pushing leftist narratives.
The funny thing is watching you and sarc act as hypocrites. I am very open with my anti left anti cultural marxism biases. You as Mike and sarc are not. You openly declare yourselves to be bias free despite constantly attacking anyone who disagrees with you as a cultist. Even when you've been proven wrong time and time again.
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The squirrel wants to burro something in an ass?
Up to and including his nuts?
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Sure Sqrlsy isn't an ass spelunker who eats penguin shit?
He cosplays as Richard Gere’s squirrebil.
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By the way. which racial collectivist? Misek? Biobehavioral_View? Nemo Aequalis? WinnieSC? Nardz? Goldie? ChemJeff? The no-name Psychopath fucker who follows me around? There's just so many of them...
ChemJeff, radical collectivist.
I see. He long lost the claim to his handle when his response to CRT wasn't to end compulsory schooling and Separation of School and State. Those are the only real Radical Individualist solutions for education.
Misek is just a neo Nazi.
And Nazism (whether Old School or Neo) is Racial Collectivism, as The 25 Point Program and Mein Kampf reveals.
Sue or shut up.
There is also the third option of telling you to:
Fuck Off, Ku Klux Krud!
To be fair these clowns did describe Blasey-Ford as "credible."
Stink like that gonna linger.
To be fair, the comments *are* a festering swamp, and have been ever since the Trump era began. Probably the best thing to do would be to shut them down entirely, since they are at best value-subtracting, and at worst do an active disservice to the publication's goals.
As I argued to Matt back in 2016, Reason and the free exchange of ideas receive no value whatsoever from the comments today (all the posters of any merit have left, tired of rolling in the mud with idiots).
On the one hand, the GDI is creating an Orwellian nightmare. On the other hand, I continue to be right about the comments. Just remove them entirely.
Jacob Sullum, Elizabeth Nolan Brown, and Steve Greenhut certainly posted more than their fair share of disinformation.
Sullum? Please cite an example of Sullum giving misinformation.
Trump had nuclear secrets at Mar-a-Lago.
https://reason.com/2022/09/07/trumps-document-trove-reportedly-included-information-about-a-foreign-nations-nuclear-capabilities/
His 20 or so trump impeachment stories. His j6 stories.
But that report is based on a WaPo report, and the GDI says they are top-notch. LOL
Annnnnd he ran away.
Buzzfeed?! Are you fucking kidding me?! BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!! What a fucking joke!
The other thing I find really hilarious is some of the things in the info-graphic that they ding the NY Post, Reason, RealClearPolitics, and Daily Wire on - things like "bias, sensational language, click bait, manipulating readers emotional responses, etc." - could also be said of their ten lowest risk sites.
And Huffpost. HuffPost is at least as big of a joke as BuzzFeed News, but people seem to give it a pass.
They're all a joke, but some are more of a joke than others. I'm a little surprised to see the Wall Street Journal on there, but then again I haven't read that many articles of theirs since most of them are behind a pay wall now. Or maybe they included them as the token "conservative" (in this case meaning not quite as left leaning as the others) news site so that they can still try and claim objectivity, even though everyone knows that's bullshit.
Kind of like how proggies spent years spouging over John McCain and wishing "more RethugliKKKans were like him" until 2008 when he ran for president against Chocolate Jesus. At which point he became Hitler re-incarnated.
Thanks to Rupert Murdoch, the news section of the WSJ contains almost as much woke pro Democrat anti Trump/GOP propaganda as the NYT, WaPo and LA Times.
Like most WSJ subscribers, I prefer their largely pro freedom and largely pro business editorial section (although I usually disagree with the WSJ EB's neocons).
Thanks to Rupert Murdoch, the news section of the WSJ contains almost as much woke pro Democrat anti Trump/GOP propaganda as the NYT, WaPo and LA Times.
Which probably explains why they're still on the "good" list. Sure, they might still let a few pro freedom and/ or pro business editorials slip in, but as long as the news section is still supporting the narrative it's OK. Plus like said earlier, they can still claim that the WSJ is "right wing" enough to claim objectivity if anyone calls them on their bullshit.
In fairness, I do consider BuzzFeed just as credible as NYT or WaPo.
No decent birdcage would stand to be lined by any of those rags. Directly in the toilet.
Well ... with the amount of disinformation on this site, are they really wrong ? Really ?
They are not wrong about the amount of disinformation in the comments section.
Agreed. You and Jeff do a hell of a job filling comments with it.
Reason is listed among the "ten riskiest online news outlets"
Well, damn! I never realized Reason was considered a news site by anyone.
I thought is was just a gateway to frustrated writers called "commenters".
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+1
lolword
I’m Reason’s defense, I don’t think they ever claimed to be anything but a news analysis magazine that claims to do so through the lens of libertarian principles. Even though they do so through a leftist lens.
It is not clear precisely what GDI means—the organization did not respond to requests for comment, and it has not made its full scoring analysis available to the public.
"WHAT?! And *assist* the disinformation providers?!"
They're Brits, who the fuck cares what they think really. They are and always will be "perfidious Albion". There's a reason why almost everyone the world over hates their asses and our ancestors had the good sense to put some musket balls through their rotten teeth. It was even a piece of shit British spy who gave us the eponymous bullshit "Steele Dossier". With friends like those guys, you'll never need an enemy.
The US government is giving them money to suppress opposition news sources. it's a big fucking deal.
^This is the real story here.^
Between this and the collusion between the government and big tech to censor viewpoints they don't like revealed by the Twitter Files and the Facebook Files, I'm starting to get the distinct impression that our so-called "betters" really do hate anyone who dares disagree with them and wouldn't think twice about putting anyone who can't be re-educated up against a wall or a nice "warm shower," if you know what I mean.
As Reason has repeatedly told us the past few years, this is perfectly fine because the advertisers are all private companies.
Build your own State Department!
I know you're joking, but that's not a bad idea. And I mean that in a "that tree of liberty is looking like it needs a little fertilizer" kind of way.
What do you think orgs like Davos, The Atlantic Council, Open Societies global foundation are?
Fertilizer?
“or policies to prevent disinformation in its comments section.”
GDI added, “And we don’t even know what the hell that SQRLSY guy is saying most of the time.”
Here is Mike to pretend that in fact he is totally with us in being troubled about this whole thing. He even makes fun of SQRLSY.
For the record, Mike is constantly defending SQRLSY. Mike has also numerous times argued that the government hasn't been caught trying to influence markets. And he has argued alongside Chemjeff in insisting that companies who "freely choose" to censor at the request of government are at worst victims of government coercion, if not just exercising their own free speech.
But no, he is now pretending that all that never happened. He is no longer parroting those lines, because it is clear that his denials have always been wrong. Instead he is beginning a new line of gas lighting.
Fifty cents is fifty cents.
Liarson isn't worth that much.
And he keeps showing up like a bad penny.
Dude.... Mike's comment was obviously an offhand joke. Remind me to never invite you to a party. Total buzzkill.
The guy who will spend every day posting some thread variant of "These icky people are mean to reason! RHEEEE! Let's fight! I'm such a victim of mean girls!" wants to lecture me about being a buzzkill. That is rich.
Tu quoque is a discussion technique that intends to discredit the opponent's argument by attacking the opponent's own personal behavior and actions as being inconsistent with their argument, therefore accusing hypocrisy. This specious reasoning is a special type of ad hominem attack.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque
My quoque? My quoque?
YOUR QUOQUE!
I pronounce that QUO-KAY.
Which is the proper pronunciation.
You literally have no self-awareness.
Says the angry, abusive drunk.
For reals? Overt tried to diss me for making a joke about SQRLSY. (A joke SQRLSY himself would take zero offense at.)
You never joke. Everything you say is dead serious. That's why you're a liar. These things you call jokes are in reality your true beliefs, and those comments where you pretend to be serious are all lies, back-peddling from what you really believe.
LOL, SQRLSY himself has been posting comments on this page, and the supposedly offended party hasn’t even bothered to comment on my stupid joke.
I couldn't give a fuck. I muted him a while ago. Comments are easier to read without his inane clutter.
I concur.
Same.
Stupid jokes are NOT allowed... Poor little Trumpistas might take offense! (I would get them a warm ba-ba, to soothe their Poor Little Baby Feelings, but I'm too broke, having had to pay too many taxes to Florida Governor De-Satan-Tis, so that it can forcibly ferry illegal sub-humans from Brazil to Buttfuckistanistanistanistan, just to score points with the troglodytes. Or was it from Mars to Uranus? I'm having trouble keeping track here... I hope that it's comfortable there in Uranus for the illegal sub-humans, and not TOO terribly smelly, 'cause illegal sub-humans are humans too, IMHO.)
Speaking of Uranus....
How far is your head still stuck up it?
Oh wait, do you read my posts now, or am I muted? I can never tell any more.
But let's be clear. I didn't diss you. I was analyzing this form of gas-lighting that you do when you suddenly find yourself on the wrong side of an argument. You use humor to imply that you were always on the right side of an argument.
It's like that time you quipped that you would "never look to Rolling Stone for anything other than articles about boomer-era musicians", mere days after trafficking their ivermectin hoax.
https://reason.com/2021/09/09/california-is-set-to-outlaw-unannounced-condom-removal/?comments=true#comment-9091773
This is merely another example of such perfidy- the game that you play to look like a reasonable commenter, instead of the partisan hack that you are. You make jokes about the issue, when mere months before you were arguing on the other side of the issue.
As recently as December, you were arguing that Taibbi's Twitter File posts proved that "there was no government coercion mentioned in Taibbi’s account". And now you have no acknowledgement that you were wrong- you just start these little jokes to try and deflect.
I don't joke about you Mike, just call out your lying and gaslighting.
He claims to have muted people but makes the "mistake" of replying from time to time.
Yeah, mikes a tard, but I’m really glad that CA lawmakers have no serious problems to deal with, and have time to tackle the serious issue of “unannounced condom removal”.
Jesus, what a world we live in. Lol.
Am guessing a woman proposed that bill where other legislators didn’t want to rubber the wrong way.
Public Private partnership (that’s nice and bipartisan btw). Private company
As I said on saturday, it is clear that their comments were a major reason for de-monetization. What is interesting is that Reason gives no accounting for what they did in response to these demonetization campaigns. But it is clear that circa-2020/early 2021, Reason did make structural changes to the website that de-emphasized the Comments sections. Comments were hidden behind a new link, and pages with comments were dropped from the google search index. Prior to 2020, I could search on the comments- finding conversations between myself and others. But now you cannot search through the comments.
Did Reason make these changes to improve monetization of the site? If so, they are free to hide that fact, but their silence certainly cuts against the claim that they are all about Free Minds and Free Markets. And even if they did this at the time under the impression that this was free market activity, this would be a perfect opportunity for a libertarian publication concerned with government overreach to really dive into the methods by which government corrupts markets.
Why would Reason emphasize their comment section when most of the people in it are hostile to libertarianism while claiming to be the 'true' libertarians?
"Why would Reason emphasize their comment section when most of the people in it are hostile to libertarianism while claiming to be the ‘true’ libertarians?"
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Perhaps Reason.com makes the comments not-searchable because they don't want to lose advertising revenue (and magazine subscriptions) due to a CONSTANT DELUGE of fascist comments right here? Could THAT be it, just maybe?
But don't worry... REAL libertarianism means that we can solve THAT problem by FORCING people to buy Reason magazines!!! Yeah, THAT'S it! THAT is what "free minds and free markets" are about!!!
Hey Damiksec, damiskec, and damikesc, and ALL of your other socks…
How is your totalitarian scheme to FORCE people to buy Reason magazines coming along?
Free speech (freedom from “Cancel Culture”) comes from Facebook, Twitter, Tik-Tok, and Google, right? THAT is why we need to pass laws to severely constrict these DANGEROUS companies (which, ugh!, the BASTARDS, put profits above people!)!!! We must pass new laws to retract “Section 230” and FORCE the evil corporations to provide us all (EXCEPT for my political enemies, of course!) with a “UBIFS”, a Universal Basic Income of Free Speech!
So leftist “false flag” commenters will inundate Reason-dot-com with shitloads of PROTECTED racist comments, and then pissed-off readers and advertisers and buyers (of Reason magazine) will all BOYCOTT Reason! And right-wing idiots like Damikesc will then FORCE people to support Reason, so as to nullify the attempts at boycotts! THAT is your ultimate authoritarian “fix” here!!!
“Now, to “protect” Reason from this meddling here, are we going to REQUIRE readers and advertisers to support Reason, to protect Reason from boycotts?”
Yup. Basically. Sounds rough. (Quote damikesc)
(Etc.)
See https://reason.com/2020/06/24/the-new-censors/
(And Asshole Extraordinaire will NEVER take back its' totalitarian bullshit!!!! 'Cause Asshole Extraordinaire is already PERFECT in every way!!!)
This (above damikesc quote) is a gem of the damnedest dumbness of damikesc! Like MANY “perfect in their own minds” asshole authoritarians around here, he will NEVER take back ANY of the stupidest and most evil things that he has written! I have more of those on file… I deploy them to warn other readers to NOT bother to try and reason with the most utterly unreasonable of the nit-wit twits here!
Just because u are clinically paranoid, doesn't mean I'm not watching you...
Good one! (Too true, especially w/respect to Government Almighty.)
“Why would Reason emphasize their comment section when most of the people in it are hostile to libertarianism while claiming to be the ‘true’ libertarians?”
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Are you gatekeeping with sarc now?
The guy who has been on the wrong side of libertarianism for years?
I didn't talk about emphasizing comments. I talked about de-emphasizing the comments.
And if the comments suck because of these "hostile" people, then you are a close second talking about them and trying to pick fights with them in every single thread. You are like a broken record.
Tu quoque much?
If I was here to pick fights I wouldn't have muted the asshats who are guaranteed to leave a dishonest reply to all of my posts, practically begging for a fight. Exchanges of ideas are great. But once all the comments contain "you" (like what I am replying to) the discussion is no longer about ideas.
No, only when you are engaged in your typical projection, sarc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque
Keep fellating fallacies, girlfriend.
What exactly do you think this proves? You asked if I "Tu quoque much". That seems to be asking if I "accuse others of what they have been accusing much." And I don't do it much. Only when you are projecting.
Unfortunately, you seem to think that the comments suck because of the mean girls being "hostile to libertarianism". That may be true, but I think it is at least reasonable to suggest that there are other reasons the comments suck. A person who constantly comes into threads and posts a low-value, mocking parody of their enemies' arguments strikes me as low value. It does not argue for ideas, it is a personal attack at people hoping to stir up the pot.
To be clear, that isn't an ad hominem. An ad hominem would be me saying "Don't listen to Sarc because he is a hypocrite." My argument is more along the lines of, "Your argument of why the comments suck is not complete. People hostile to libertarianism may be a problem, but another problem is specific people (including yourself) who degrade the quality of threads."
If the mean girls left, it would still suffer from your low-value content. That isn't ad hominem. It is facts.
*yawn*
You'll get less shit the day you realize how big of a hypocrite you are.
Dear Colt 45,
I want to wish you a Happy Valentine’s Day. You fill me up when I feel empty. I miss you.
- sarc
You get what you give Sarc. You lack of personal accountability, which ties in heavily to you severe alcohol abuse, are much of why you life is a living Hell. And why you’re so angry. When deep down, we all know you despise yourself.
It’s just that no one here cares to put up with your shit.
You yawn at a massively well established argument because he took your trite, constant, and overly used "tu quoque" assertion to task?
"If I was here to pick fights I wouldn’t have muted the asshats who are guaranteed to leave a dishonest reply to all of my posts,"
Right. You just post that same thread about how dumb people are wrong to disagree with Reason every single article because it is good, useful commentary.
"But once all the comments contain “you” (like what I am replying to)"
I see no meaningful distinction between accusing a group of people as being "hostile to libertarian", and accusing a group if one (you) of being hostile to these comment threads. You aren't describing ideas, you are trying to label a group of people you disagree with.
To be clear, I brought up an idea: the idea that it is possible Reason deliberately went to the effort of breaking comment threads and hiding them from search indexes in order to avoid demonetization. You, instead, tried to make the thread into version 1000 of your bitching about the Mean Girls. That was a decision YOU made.
But you won't own that decision. You will instead claim to be a victim. "Oh, mean Overt is getting all personal and calling me out for getting personal about other people. Woe is me!"
I stopped entertaining asshats who can't respond to any post of mine without "You, you, you!"
Party on. I'm not playing.
But you are playing. Every single response to me has been to call out those "asshats". For people who you have muted and ignored, you just can't seem to stop bringing them up.
You see that, right? Let's look at this article. As of this post, 5 of your 10 posts are specifically calling out those people in the commentariat you don't agree with ("New right comentariate"). Add in your defense of these posts, and the majority of your time here has been centered around your obsession with people you claim to not care about.
Oh Sarc, so eager to play. So reluctant to admit it. Know this. If you continue your drunken raging leftist screeching, your suffering will be legendary, even in Hell.
If you want to explain to me why what I say is wrong without attacking me as a person, then I'll be happy read what you have to say. But as long as it is about me I'm not interested.
I explained what was wrong with your argument: I never said anything about declining to emphasize comments. I specifically noted that they took effort to de-emphasize and hide the comments. Those are two different actions.
And if it is relevant to discuss the quality of those comments (*you* brought that up, not me), and it is relevant to discuss why those comments may be bad quality (again, this was something *you* introduced, not me), then I think it is perfectly valid to point out that your little holy war also impacts quality.
I explained what was wrong with your argument
No you didn't. You explained what is wrong with me as a person. It appears to me that you can't separate what someone says with who they are. So if someone says something you disagree with, there's something wrong with them. I could be wrong, but that's my observation.
Run along now. I'm done with this foolishness today.
"No you didn’t."
I did. You are ignoring that part of my post. Is there a reason? Does my point not make sense?
"You explained what is wrong with me as a person. It appears to me that you can’t separate what someone says with who they are."
I can easily separate it. But since you seem to be incapable of talking about anything except the mean girls (who you TOTALLY ignore), I am going to remark on it.
"Run along now. I’m done with this foolishness today."
How precious. Sarc parachutes into my thread to pick a fight about the mean girls and then decides he is above it all. Totes mature, Sarc.
Sarc is the guy that threatened to come to Spokane to beat me up several weeks back. Then backed down and hid from me for the next week. I have no sympathy for him.
"I didn’t talk about emphasizing comments. I talked about de-emphasizing the comments."
Can one REALLY fully address the concept of breaking eggs, w/o discussing the option to NOT break eggs?
As I've often enough stated, I am doing readers-commenters (especially NEW ones) TWO favors:
'1) Warning them NOT to WASTE their time debating ANYTHING with the "perfect People" like Damikesc (and assorted socks) and Mother's Lament. "Perfect People" are already PERFECT, and will NEVER change their minds about ANYTHING! Let alone admit ANY error on THEIR part!
'2) I warn people that these comments right here are largely right-wing fascist comments by right-wing fascists. We have ONE significant media source for libertarian news and editorials here in the USA, and the comments are inundated with fascism! I do NOT want the casual just-passing-by curious reader to conclude that libertarian = = fascism!
"Can one REALLY fully address the concept of breaking eggs, w/o discussing the option to NOT break eggs?"
This is not a germane analogy.
Reason had a commenting system up and running, with search engines regularly indexing the comments of the site. They did not need to emphasize the comments. This was the status quo.
So any argument trying to explain why they did or did not emphasize comments is moot. They didn't need to take that action. The comments were already searchable.
No, Reason chose to BREAK their commenting links. Any links to comments no longer work. Go back pre-2020, and posts linking to other comments will take you to the article with the comments disabled. And, not to get to wonky here, but this technically was EASY to avoid. It is some simple configuration to re-write requests of the old link style to the new one.
But instead, Reason has deliberately hidden the comments from the search indexes. We know this is deliberate because the new link to open comments includes the "nofollow" attribute on the link's tag. This wasn't an accident. It wasn't a passive reaction. Reason actively decided to hide its comments.
So sarc wasn't offering a justification for why Reason took the "option to NOT break eggs". His justification was for why Reason might not go to the store to get more eggs. And it may be right, but it isn't germane to this conversation.
My god, SQRLSY, I never truly appreciated the depth of your heroism! It’s all so clear now!
When Reason was paper, subscribers wrote in letters like to any other paper or magazine under our real names, not Mother's Regret or Partidiotic Guy. Physics Today also admitted a freewheeling approach, but only to genuine writers. It worked. Reason was not overrun with narcs, girl-bulliers, Tea-klansmen or anarco-fascists. Running the circus from the monkey cage has had its chance and failed.
This is a very long-winded way of saying Reason had it coming. Sure, the government is actively funding a censorship regime, but if Reason didn't wear that short dress, and allow free expression, they wouldn't have gotten caught up in it.
It fascinates me that ostensible libertarians see the government caught red-handed contracting out censorship activities, and they want to pile in and declare that the censored people deserve it.
Hank, it's time for your meds.
He should turn his morphine drip up to 11.
“Tea- klansmen”.
Lol. Another tortured klan reference. Grow up, hank.
I had a conversation with a person on the Reason executive team where they straight up told me they hide the comments section by default because it is so embarrassing.
That's not surprising. Once upon a time they took questions from the comments. Those days are long gone.
Because the comment sections expose them for the libertines they actually are. They're perfectly happy to allow authoritarians to rule their lives as long as they can be libertines with sex work, food trucks, weed, and open borders. That's not libertarianism. A token pro-2A article here and there is not libertarianism. If they want to be libertarians, then they need to step up to the plate when government is exposed for the attempt to censor voices and violate 1A. They need to expose when 4A and 5A are violated wantonly by the government. Crying over Roe is not libertarianism. If they were libertarians and not libertines, they should celebrate that the issue was returned to the states and the federal government has less power, regardless of their individual takes on the issue.
I'd be embarrassed to if the readers of the site pointed out all the flaws in reasoning or what information they were purposefully ignoring. The latest being the censorship they defended for years.
They should be embarrassed that they've fallen from from being principled.
^ This
So instead of doing better, they sweep the dissent under the proverbial rug.
So libertarian!
They've been doing that for well over a decade, you moron.
Why would Reason emphasize their comment section when most of the people in it are hostile to libertarianism while claiming to be the ‘true’ libertarians?
Why wouldn't they just shut it down in that case, instead of continuing their long-time policy of rarely stepping in to moderate anything?
I'm pretty sure the answer to that is because they know most of the site's engagement is driven by the comments section, and if they neutered that, hardly anyone would visit the site except for the occasional stuff that Robby puts out. Take his stuff out, and really all that's left is a glorified 2000s-era blog, albeit of far higher quality than shit like LGF or Balloon Juice.
This right here. Reason is very dependent on the readers who post in the comment section. If they cut off comments, they would lose a lot of viewership.
There is no doubt in mind at all that most of the staff would probably love to just get rid of the comments entirely, and I would bet my life savings that they've discussed the idea internalky, probably more than once.
I suspect that the only reason they don't just do ir is because they know full well that if they did, they would lose about 90% of what little still remains of their old core audience. Most of us would never back here again (I sure as hell wouldn't) and the only people left still clicking around would be the writers themselves, which doesn't make for a great business model.
so a government agency that is to expose disinformation is in fact disinformation itself. now how could anyone have predicted that. also the government does not have a legal right to say what is or is not disinformation. And as an earlier commenter stated, scary that they are tracking commenters. well they and F off
so a government agency that is to expose disinformation is in fact disinformation itself.
They must have been taking notes from DOD. Or the FBI. Or CDC. Or the CIA. Or Justice. Or FDA. Or the IRS. Or the White House. Or Congress. Or other parts of the State Department.
Okay, imma gonna have me some alphabet soup for lunch.
I have to say my biggest issue is not so much with a group of bozos I never knew existed bashing reason but that the commie US State Department is pissing away money to support the group of bozos.
Sorry but I've read from you, ENB and others here that there is nothing wrong with government providing such guidelines and as private companies they are free to heed such totally non-coercive advice as they wish. Sorry you're falling on the wrong side of history and your own private company doctrine but that's what happens when you flit too far away from progressive doctrine.
This is old news, really, and why are we talking about it now? The government just censors people, there's nothing new to be learned.
The attack on Reason proves that God's Demented Idiots only glanced at a couple of articles by Uninspected Entry Girl. The Brits circulate a Left Wing Signs & Symbols aid in which ALL anarco-anything symbols are correctly listed as terrorist whether they love or hate the Jesus myth. It therefore follows that they who worship violence and hate freedom most intensely attach like lampreys to the LP and proclaim "us" looter anarchists. (https://tinyurl.com/5jyc2wca)
Fetterman, is that you?
"If a self-described disinformation-tracking organization wants to loudly proclaim, in partisan fashion, that advertisers should only use mainstream and liberal news sites, it has that right. But advertisers should take note of its obvious bias, total lack of transparency in detailing media outlets' scores, and other methodological issues. And the State Department certainly has no business helping to fund it."
It is something when it is your ox being gored. Right, Robby?
Gotta give them credit: the articles on Reason really are full of misinformation and disinformation.
"If you don’t read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed." -Mark Twain
"...its articles are often biased in their coverage and relied on sensationalized, emotional language."
It's a fair cop.
The National Endowment for Democracy
Nothing says "democracy" like state controlled media.
I hope someone, somewhere, is keeping a list of shit like this to cut spending on someday (I know, keep dreaming). $330 million might be chump change compared to the full federal budget, but how many other little bullshit line items are there like this? My guess is a lot.
This one is especially egregious because not only is it a waste of money, it's yet another example of a back door attempt at censorship by our government. This time by skewing the ad market towards news sources that only promote goodthink.
> ...cut spending on someday
Yet the current slim Republican majority in congress still can't seem to even try to do it. I guess the pro-NED-funding crowd is too important to them.
There's so much nickel and dime shit in the budget that any Republican who hesitates in answering "what would you cut" should be run out of office on a rail.
I've been thinking a lot about this "Yeah, but the Republicans have failed to control spending, so fuck them, I'm never voting Republican"
There seems to be two kinds of libertarians, Tuco, so I'll lay them out here.
Left-leaning libertarian, believes in restrained spending, individual liberty, but has a nominal sympathy with Democrats.
Right-leaning libertarian, believes in restrained spending, individual liberty, but has a nominal sympathy with Republicans.
Over the years, I've seen nothing but comments from what I seem to suspect are left-leaning Libertarians taking Republicans to task for their failure to control spending-- which is fair, but the implication always seems to be "fuck the Republicans on this issue, they're complete hypocrites and don't deserve any support, ever."
I find this rather curious. Allow me to present to hypothetical cases.
Case 1, left-leaning Libertarian. On the issue of spending.
The Republicans suck on spending. They've had numerous opportunities to control it and have never succeeded and as such, they will never get my [support].
Case 2, right-leaning libertarian. On the issue of *checks notes* abortion.
The democrats suck on abortion. They've had numerous opportunities to protect a [woman's] right to choose and keep the government out of the medical choices of Americans and we just lost Roe V Wade and as such, they will never get my [support].
If I put my non-partisan hat on, going backwards from case #2, if one supports abortion rights and doesn't want the government involved in a woman's right to terminate a pregnancy, by and large, the Democrats as a party are much more likely to protect that choice than the Republicans. No matter what one thinks of abortion, I think that much is obvious.
On Case #1, the Republicans, as a party are much more likely to keep spending under control-- even if that control means the Democrats want to spend $100,000,000 Trillion per quarter, and the Republicans would like to keep it to $99,000,000 Trillion per quarter.
So I admit, it perplexes me that [we] as [libertarians] keep screeching about Republicans' failure to control spending, when the desire to spend to the Andromeda Galaxy is literally printed on the DNCs website.
Yes, the Republicans have not been able to control spending. I'm looking for how to describe Democrats' failure to control spending, especially when it's literally not their desire to control spending. I need some other turn of phrase to describe the Democrats... on spending.
For a long time I've said that the left is hostile to economic liberty while giving lip service to personal liberty, and the right is hostile to personal liberty while giving lip service to economic liberty.
Libertarians simply support liberty.
The result is that the left hates libertarians and call them conservatives because libertarians support economic liberty, while the right hates libertarians and calls them progressives because libertarians support personal liberty.
The result is that the left hates libertarians and call them conservatives because libertarians support economic liberty, while the right hates libertarians and calls them progressives because libertarians support personal liberty.
It's kinda impressive (but mostly just dumb) that in an article, from Reason, where the government-sponsored GDI is advising advertisers not to spend money on Reason because they're too politically risky, you manage to shout "BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAF SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDEZ!" at the top of your retarded lungs.
Why don't you just say, "It was probably those filthy Conservatives and their opposition to illegal immigration that made the GDI do that." like the retarded fucking moron that you are?
Because it could have been filthy Progressives and their opposition to economic liberty that made the GDI do that, you fucking retarded moron.
So, then the fact that Conservatives might hate drag queen story hour at the local library, has fuck all to do with the GDI advising against Reason as too risky; and your assertion that "the right hates libertarians and calls them progressives because libertarians support personal liberty" has fuck all to do with reality.
Again,
Reality: Government sponsored, far-left organization punches down against left-libertarian news outlet.
sarcasmic: BUT MUH REPUBLIKKKANZ IZ BAD TOO! BOAF SIDEZ!
Progressive, conservative, libertarian, left, right, I don't care who punches you in the head or which fist they do it with. You deserve it. You're part of the problem. All the way around.
Tell us how you really feel.
Domt worry Sarc, we all know you don’t learn lessons.
""I’ve said that the left is hostile to economic liberty while giving lip service to personal liberty,""
Equating individualism to racism is not giving lip service to personal liberty.
Another good one, reminiscent of Tom Lehrer's "National Brotherhood Week"
I had never heard of that. Thanks for sharing. Seriously. Very funny.
No. There is not a balanced asymmetry, at least in recent years.
A common critique of Republicans is that they don't have a program, and simply oppose Democrats (and their plans).
Democrats clearly have a program, even lots of them, ranging from relatively restrained to progressive (i.e. Marxist) revolution and totalitarian rule. All of these will degrade both economic and personal liberty.
You know who else doesn't have a program for society? Actual libertarians. IMO, and maybe only considering the past couple of decades, libertarians have a much more compelling alliance with Republicans, in that both can resist the party of myriad programs, i.e. Democrats.
We could use more Reagan Republicans.
Virtually every argument you make against Trump policy could be made against Reagan. Ironic isn't it? Almost like policy isn't your care about.
Tariffs, trade regulations, increased spending, lessening of government power. Both did these.
Doesn’t matter. Sarc has a pathological hatred towards Trump. Mix some binge drinking in and it just gets ugly.
One example of the left-leaning libertarian (and I won't mention names) is: I wear a mask because I don't want people to think I'm a Republican.
There are also lots of libertarians who have an unfavorable view of both major political parties. So, at least three kinds of libertarians.
That's not true. If you say you have an unfavorable view of both then you're a closet leftist, because anyone who doesn't support the GOP is a leftist.
I have an unfavorable view of bowf sidez as well, but I have a pretty good handle on which party sits where on the subject of spending. And if I vote (local elections where I live are "which Democrat with a New, Progressive Vision" I WOULD vote for the Republican if the issue was spending.
I may have voted for the Republican opposition to our last Senate race, but hell if I can remember. Our two Democratic Washington Senators have both been entrenched there since... hell, my daughter was in kindergarten? Fuck if I know. Democratic governors since the 1980s... Literal card-carrying Marxists at the city level. YMMV
We here in Illinois have had a slightly different problem. We have had what is best termed a "combine" of the parties. Machine Democrats from Chicago who run most things, and establishment Republicans who are sycophants to the Chicago Democrats. Both are detestable, but every so often, you get a Republican who is willing to buck the system. I've never seen a Democrat who bucks the system here. What this has lead to over the years is a Democrat supermajority that gerrymanders and fortifies to maintain its power against a very weak GOP. I'm not fond of the GOPe who run here, but I'd rather vote for them as it does cut somewhat into the Dem's power.
The difference between Republicans and Democrats on spending is that Republicans pretend like they're against it when they're out of power. Oh, and Republicans pay for their spending increases with tax cuts while they complain about the debt. Democrats are at least honest about wanting to tax and spend while not caring about the debt.
Patty Murray is at 30 years, and Maria Cantwell 22. It’s disgusting.
Difficulty. You and Mike only ever attack one side. Then you attack anyone else attacking the left as trump cultists.
I have seen more criticism of Trump from those you call cultists thab either of you have criticized biden.
Also above you complain about others talking about "you" yet 90% of your comments in this thread are about other people.
Oh yes, the "Boaf Sidez" libertarian. Yet, you seem to side with the Dems far more often than not, Mike.
It seems to me that several "libertarians" here were broken by Trump and his election to the Presidency.
Yeah mike, I’ve always been “a pox on both their houses” kinda guy myself. But covid really cleared a lot of things up for me. I hope the donkeys lose every election from now till the end of time.
A lot of commenters here who are critical of the host are responding with some variance of “how can you not see this? Team blue is fucking Cthulhu!”
Can’t say I blame ‘em.
It's hard to call anything a failure that was not the intent to begin with.
There’s so much nickel and dime shit in the budget that any Republican who hesitates in answering “what would you cut” should be run out of office on a rail.
True, but at the same time in a lot of cases cutting spending means someone's ox is going to get gored, so I can't entirely blame them for hedging and not wanting to answer when in campaign mode. In this case the "National Endowment for Democracy" is something most people have never heard of (I never had before this). Based on its name most people would probably react to any politician proposing cutting it with "WhY dO u H8 DeMoKrAsSeE!11!!11!!!1!!!!!" and not actually put any more thought into it than that. And those asswipes vote, so that would be the end of that guy's campaign.
They're not supposed to say "I'll cut funding to The National Endowment for Democracy", they're supposed to call it what it is and say "I'll cut the millions (billions?) of dollars we illegally spend every year on censorship".
Hell, they can even give a "low hanging fruit" type answer and say spending cuts start with all the taxpayer money going to any Non-Government Organization. That's got to be at least a couple hundred billion right there.
Where do you think half of the college educated white women are employed?
Every intelligent woman I know went into corporate law or NGOs.
The matriarchy says fuck a budget.
they’re supposed to call it what it is and say “I’ll cut the millions (billions?) of dollars we illegally spend every year on censorship”.
That's a nice thought, but unfortunately I doubt it would work either because you'll just have some left leaning journalist pull the "Well, AKSHUALLY..." card and gaslight everyone into thinking the US doesn't spend millions or billions on censorship. Even this example here isn't technically spending millions on censorship because the NED uses that money to fund a British group, the GDI, to put together a list of "risky" news websites and then subtly imply that advertisers should steer clear of them. E.g, "They're not AKSHUALLY telling people what to say or not to say, therefore they're not AKSHUALLY spending money on censorship." It's just censorship by proxie, two or three layers deep.
And the low hanging fruit answer would likely not work either. Saying you want to cut spending for every NGO would easily be countered by one of the same "Well AKSHUALLY" guys just finding an example or two of an NGO that, I don't know, provides baby formula to single mothers in third world hell holes and then subtly imply that all NGO's do similar kind of work and anyone who wants to cut a penny wants to kill babies or some shit.
I just don't see any way for any politician who wants to get elected (and re-elected) to propose spending cuts, even vaguely, that wouldn't get him accused of wanting to "literally kill people" or some such horseshit. Which is why no one ever talks about it, much less actually cuts anything.
That's the libertarian conundrum. Can't cut government without someone losing their job or transfer payment. Most everyone in the country is either dependent upon a government job or transfer payment, or loves someone who is. That means any specific cuts in government are political suicide.
Agree. Dems dream up or expand government programs to get people hooked on govt. money. Anyone who suggests cutting these programs is committing political suicide.
According to Wikipedia, NED started in 1983 as a democracy-promotiong project aimed at the Communist bloc and US - allied dictatorships at risk of Commie takeover.
Maybe it worked, because the Soviet Bloc *did* collapse.
Then they closed the agency because it had fulfilled its funciton...OK, that last phrase was strictly a joke.
Fuck cutting their budget, I want a refund.
Having read much that was published by ALL of these media outlets during recent years/decades, I consider the ten media sources that were highly rated by the so-called Global Disinformation Index to contain far more disinformation (from left wingers, Democrat partisans and allies of the Chinese Communists) than the ten media sources that were rated worst.
Another thought that just occurred to me: what exactly do they mean by "risky" in this context? Is the risk for advertisers that some people to the right of Bernie Sanders might see ads for their products and buy them? Or is this more of a "that's a nice business you got there, be a shame if your ESG score was lowered because you associated with 'wrongthinkers'" kind of situation?
It's shit like this that really make me miss the days when everything wasn't fucking politicized. Where's Michael "Republican's buy sneakers too" Jordan when you need him?
Currently canceled for pointing out that a certain minority ethnicity has outsized political power.
Albanians?
Elbonians.
'Global Disinformation Index' ??
*outright, prolonged laughter*
Let's see if you are laughing when you get fired, they freeze your bank accounts, and get put on many "do-not" lists.
It was probably that whole Woodchipper thing...
We are scary.
Sounds like the real problem with our disinformation score is that we haven't actually fed enough politicians feet-first into woodchippers.
Support for Snowden is probably why they are on this list. They are on other blacklists as well. My gym won't let me open reason while on their network.
My gym won’t let me open reason while on their network.
The fuck?! Dude, you might want to find a new gym. Or work out at home.
Why the hell does your gym even care what you read while gyming? Do they also dictate what color underwear you use? Jeepers Cripes, find another gym!
The GDI seems to me to violate Britain's Defamation Act. It is clearly published with the sole intention of causing financial harm to the entities on the list.
...policies to prevent disinformation in its comments section.
You're welcome!!!!
I've never been prouder in the decade-plus I've been commenting at this site. The fact that it came from a bunch of limey limp-dicks was the crumpet with the tea.
It seems to me that the top five are pro-government progressive and the bottom five are government-suspicion conservative/libertarian. Without clear and transparent criteria for rating, it seems clear to me that GDI is being paid to rank sites the way the Left wants them ranked.
It's a "Truthyness" ranking, not a disinformation ranking. To the modern Left, anything that does not follow the Left's narrative is disinformation.
Censorship by proxy, or extortion.
Not just disinformation, but Russian disinformation.
To the modern Left, anything that does not follow the Left’s narrative is disinformation.
Also worth noting that it's not really about (dis)information either. It's about fealty. Last week's NYT saying, "Don't wear a mask. Save them for our front line heroes." is this week's NYT saying, "Nothing short of a double N95 will prevent you from killing someone's Grandma like some filthy Red Stater."
The review even makes it pretty clear that the issue isn't the tone or topics of the articles, it's that they Reason dares construct them such that people might get ideas and doesn't eliminate comments that could cause people to get the wrong ideas.
I’d like to know how of that $330 million spent on this list. Because I could have come up with it for about $40; less if I used ChatGPT.
ChatGPT on this subject:
Followed by:
El oh fucking el.
It did a lot better than those GDI guys.
No it didn't. It did the same thing. Favored the left bias against perceived non left bias.
The true irony is that it did to Reason exactly what Reason does to everyone else - privileging the leftist side over any other.
Just get rid of the left.
sarc hardest hit
These chat algorithms must be defective!
[touches earpiece]
Sorry, excuse me. *Ahem* *Ahem!*
The disinformation is coming from inside the algorithms!
or policies to prevent disinformation in its comments section
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
The GDI can go stuff it!
ya that was the highlight to be sure
That's pretty sad considering Reason doesn't exactly have a perfect record for being USA patriots who believe in the US Constitution.
Just goes to show how socialist the world is getting.
The CDC, FDA, and DNC took 3 years to catch up with very simple truths (read: misinformation) that were all over the comments section in early 2020. Certainly by mid 2020.
I would be embarrassed and call it "misinformation" too, if I had that much egg on my face
Where does the WHO's position on 'everyone can get monkeypox' rank on the "Global Disinformation Index" ?
Probably pretty low, because technically, it's true. For instance, my chances of getting Monkeypox would rise significantly if I visited one of my local bathhouses.
And your nom de guerre is Ben Dover.
For WIW, just emailed my US Rep and senators about this, and brought to their attention that US tax dollars are being used to promote censorship by proxy:
I have recently learned that US tax dollars have been used to support the London based Global Disinformation Index by way of The National Endowment for Democracy—a nonprofit that has received $330 million in taxpayer dollars from the State Department—contributed hundreds of thousands of dollars to GDI's budget, according to an investigation by The Washington Examiner's Gabe Kaminsky. I believe the following link describes this far better than I can:
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/restoring-america/equality-not-elitism/disinformation-group-secretly-blacklisting-right-wing-outlets-bankrolled-state-department
What is clear is that their exclusion list, which is used to pressure businesses from advertising on sites they dislike or disagree with, is extremely biased. When a group supports NPR, the NY Times, and the WAPO and Buzzfeed and discredits such sites as the NY Post, The Washington Examiner, and Reason.org there is a very clear indication of bias. In short, our tax dollars are being employed to execute censorship by proxy.
Please address this matter of use of our tax revenue to promote censorship.
Please address this matter of use of our tax revenue to promote censorship.
They are. Those budgets are going up next year, and efforts will be redoubled.
Because the Emperor is not as forgiving as I am...
I vote and volunteer libertarian. Looters notice THAT. (https://bit.ly/3QpGuKk)
or policies to prevent disinformation in its comments section."
The problem, as I understand it would be the rabblerousers putting in links to the Hunter Biden Laptop story, lab leaks, Glenn Greenwald and Spiked-Online.
Sorry, my bad. 😉 I'll just have to double down for the GDI.
Just imagine that the GDI staff are reading these as we post them.
FUCK YOU GDI; WE SEE WHAT YOU ARE!!!
"It's those damn commenters! This is why we can't have nice things!" - someone at Reason HQ right now, probably
and Mike.
And he’s not wrong.
the comments section is the nice thing. I love this place
Fuck yeah! The one thing Reason gets mostly right.
policies to prevent disinformation in its comments section.
[dons OBL hat]
Section 230 is the 1A of the internet!
[doffs OBL hat]
That'll just summon the Sqrlsy one.
Section 230 is the 1A of the internet! Yeah!!!
(Casually Mad has FINALLY Seen The Light! Lettuce all cerebrate together now!)
P.S., S-230 doesn't address taxpayer money collected and then spent to BRIBE privately owned media and associated entities to do the bidding of Government Almighty. This is indeed a problem, but tearing down S-230 will only make matters WORSE, here. S-230 calls for NO Government Almighty stick, but doesn't address the "carrot" side of things. And yes, to be sure, the "carrot" is funded by taxpayer-beating "sticks". For THIS fix... We need to vote libertarian, for starters!
STORMY DANIELS fascist Humpty Dumpty Trumpty 230 ARRRRGGGHHHHH!!!!!!
Well, Robby, I think you might be largely to blame. That’s a compliment btw.
To be sure.
They must not like fruit sushi at The State Department.
🙂
Yeah, well they can just roll it up real tight and shove it up their foggy bottoms!
In their striped pants, as Harry Truman would put it, of course.
🙂
I agree on both counts.
This sounds like a good case for a 1A challenge.
Libertarian magazine reflects libertarian values. Risky indeed.
I looked at the list and it appears well reasoned. I don’t think you fully understand how much bad content is published to reason.com
Quoth the hand hidden in the sockpuppet...
Kewl! We're getting noticed!
Actually, the fact that the first two "pillars" are inaccurate makes one question their own researching shills.
Meant "skills", but "shills" works as well.
"Shills" might even work better, actually.
I'm researching Germany and recommend DW, made for minds. You can comment after you identify yourself. People confused by chromosomes can choose D (Deutch? Director? Democrat?) instead of M or F. Just now they aired an article about ballet director Marco Goecke, so miffed by bad reviews he literally smeared dog doo on a critic's face. Give the Duy/Dal a fake name, sell (D)im? a subscription and s/he'D fit right in with what folks unfamiliar with the Mute Losers button are shown. We could then mute Hundschaisstr along with perchpr, Wiegels and Cretin. Whee!
Anyone care to translate that from Nutty to English?
Evidently Deutsche Welle (English) has a comments section for their online articles. You just have to create an account.
Beyond that, sorry. I can’t help you.
Hank must not have any family, or more likely he does but they washed their hands of him years ago.
Deutsche Welle is woke AF. They used to have some decent documentaries separate from the news cycle but those tend to get infected now too. The story regarding VW’s gaming of the diesel emissions in the US overall was solid. They did don some kid gloves a few times but overall nice work by them.
The US banned some foreign govt funded media outlets but kept others. DW was allowed to keep broadcasting in the US. They passed the censorship Voight-Kampff test.
Please let this be the wake-up call for the “both sides” camp of the Lolbertarian party.
New York Post, Real Clear Politics, The Daily Wire, The Blaze, One America News Network, The Federalist, Newsmax, The American Spectator, and The American Conservative, are all right of center in some form. The fact that these are labeled as high risk disinfo, and not literal black supremacist conspiracy sites like The Root, neo-nazi sites like TDS, and Marxist sites like TYT, is proof that these people don’t care about genuine disinformation.
Or the right just lies constantly.
If you think any one ideology has a monopoly on lying, you're the liar.
I don't know about monopoly, but one side definitely lies a lot more.
Liberals are burdened by such gadflies as science, academia, and journalism. Ask any right-winger and they'll tell you much the same.
I don’t know about monopoly, but one side definitely lies a lot more.
Look in a mirror, Tony, and you'll see which side lies far more.
We all know you by now so I'm mostly doing this for educational purposes, but I'm going to give you the entire argument. Let's assume that conservatives lie more. That still doesn't prove that non-conservatives don't lie and you would think an unbiased sampling of major propaganda and disinformation peddling platforms would include The Daily Stormer. I mean come on, it's a literal neo-nazi forum and paper.
Tony gave up his souls for Marxism long ago. He is an empty vessel for their commie pablum, and any random cock at his local bathhouse.
I initially thought TDS was The Daily Shoah, but it turns out you would be right either way.
They also didn't mention AlterNet or CounterPunch (both Far Left clickbaiters.)
They also didn't mention Attack The System, the clearinghouse for every Anarchist school of non-thought from Anarcho-Communism (Tankies Without Commanders) to National Anarchism (yep, Nazi Anarchists) to Anarcho-Primitivism (rule by roaming tribes.) That's a sure sign that Attack The System is Fed-Infiltrated.
Say what you will about Nazis, they are open about their intentions.
That's the best argument you can come up with? Doesn't change the fact that they're still lying. You have not provided a good defense for the GDI.
Oh look, it's Tony, the post-modernist liar saying someone else is lying.
It's just accusing Reason of what it would proudly admit to.
You don't report for years on climate science by only referring to one or two fringe contrarians by accident. You have an unabashed ideological agenda, and that agenda is: "Give Charles Koch money." Brings a tear to my eye almost, how pristine and transparent it all is.
Welcome to *reality* Tony... No matter how much you religious wack-jobs keep saying 'science' it still hasn't made the devil appear in CO2. The fact you cannot even make up your minds whether or not warming or cooling is a crisis is dumber than the very notion Gov --> GUNS could possibly control the weather on such a massive scale for such an extended time frame....
But I'm sure Oppressive-POWER is far more important than making sense at all. Just stutter and sputter a bunch of nonsense in magical-fantasy "what if" land and insist GUNS kill those 'icky' suppliers so you can steal their resources.
Tony, pray things never go hot. You won’t survive very long.
awesome. you should be fucking ecstatic to be on a "Don't Go There!" list
It must really hurt, after all that work showing people why to not vote for Republican candidates and how the Democrats are the better party, to find yourself still on the 'enemies of the regime' list.
Maybe just get back to libertarianism - because you're still gonna end up against the wall right next to the rest of us anyway.
According to ChatGPT:
Ten Lowest Risk Online News Outlets
Write a generalization about..NPR, The Associated Press, The New York Times, ProPublica, Insider, USA Today, The Washington Post, BuzzFeed News, The Wall Street Journal, HuffPost
These ten media organizations - NPR, The Associated Press, The New York Times, ProPublica, Insider, USA Today, The Washington Post, BuzzFeed News, The Wall Street Journal, and HuffPost - are all reputable and widely recognized news outlets that provide coverage of current events and breaking news stories from a variety of perspectives and in-depth reporting. They all have established track records of journalistic excellence, with experienced reporters and editors who adhere to high standards of accuracy and integrity in their reporting. While their specific focuses and target audiences may vary, they all share a commitment to providing reliable and insightful coverage of the latest news and events.
Ten Riskiest Online News Outlets
Write a generalization about..The New York Post, Reason Magazine, RealClearPolitics, The Daily Wire, TheBlaze, One America News Network, The American Conservative, The Federalist, Newsmax, The American Spectator
The media outlets listed, including The New York Post, Reason Magazine, RealClearPolitics, The Daily Wire, TheBlaze, One America News Network, The American Conservative, The Federalist, Newsmax, and The American Spectator, can generally be categorized as conservative-leaning news sources with a focus on American politics and current events. They often promote limited government, free market economics, and traditional values, and are known for their critical coverage of progressive policies and politicians. However, it is important to note that each outlet has its own unique editorial stance and approach to reporting the news, and it is important for readers to critically evaluate the information presented and consider a range of sources when seeking to understand complex issues.
A little bit of bias there.
Hey, sorry for all the crap you're taking form your "own" here on the comments. I support Reason because u r my go-to source for perspective. You make the most sense 90% of the time of all my event/trend informers.
A few suggestions tho...
1. Get rid of all the incels that dont' donate. We are capitalists after all. If the issues raised on this web site are important to these commentors, they will contribute, right?
2. Regarding GDI. Do a commercial next superbowl. Really stick them and their financing.
3. Also regarding GDI (Steele dossier), I suggest aggression in response to their aggression. In whatever form that may take.
Let's say you have a few thousand dollars to invest. The Covid pandemic is just getting started and you think Pfizer might be a good investment. Who are you going to turn to for information and guidance, Wall Street Journal or Reason? That is the perspective that matters. The rest is opera.
Too bad Pfizer wasn't being honest about what they reported, no?
I think we found the source of our weekly listener question.
That's pretty rich of you to support censorship. How about you take the commenters on and not support the discredited Steele dossier?
What’s the link between Reason, NY Post, Daily Caller, Federalist? The only thing I can come up with is Covid and vaccine tyranny.
Daily Wire. They're not left-wing propaganda machines.
“I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.” — Franklin Delano Roosevelt
I’d frame that list and hang it in the Reason Volcano Lair lobby. You do have a volcano lair, right?
That quote goes back at least to Grover Cleveland.
If Cleveland was as good as FDR at making everyone think he was their friend, Cleveland too could have been elected four times.
And yet during the 2020 election the general Reason consensus was that Biden was the more sensible selection than Trump. They vote in their own jailers, and call out tin-foil conspiracy when those of us leaning right tell them exactly what is going to happen. When you see Babylon Bee articles become real a few years later, that should be all you need to know about the Left.
That’s one retelling.
If there was anything like a consensus the leading contingents were in favor of voting for Jo Jorgensen or in favor of not voting at all.
It’s an accurate retelling, and a proven fact by the staff’s own admission. So don’t try and make up any more lies.
I'd be interested to know if the State Department has regulatory control or spending power over any advertisers. It probably does. If it does, this would make for a good First Amendment test case about the chilling effects of this kind of ranking. Reason might want to sue. And I say this as someone who thinks Reason has engaged in its fair share of alt right hackery and nonsense.
“The ultimate aim is to persuade online advertisers to blacklist dangerous publications and websites.”
I doubt this is true. If the government is involved it is probably to give investors an idea of the value of a source of information. Compare the Wall Street Journal to Reason, for example. Capitalism works only because of the assumed transparency of shared information, and without that you’re right back in the jungle. It’s the grease makes us get along, what separates us from the animals, beasts of burden, beasts of prey. Little wonder the government subsidizes the operation.
Did you even read the article? That's literally what GDI's aims are. It's censorship by proxy. Why support that with your ridiculous gaslighting?
Better late than never, I suppose.
We have migrated from "shadow bans don't exist" through "those icky rught wing conspiracy theorists deserve to be banned" and on to "it has actually been a government conspiracy to silence critics of the left the entire time".
Welcome to the party.
I blame myself.
Me too.
I agree that Reason is loaded with right-wing bullshit.
I agree that you’re a stupid sack of Marxist shit.
First they came for the Tea-Partiers
And I did not speak out
Because fuck them tea partiers
Then they came for the Deplorables
And I did not speak out
Because fuck them Deplorables
Then they came for the Conservatives
And I did not speak out
Because fuck them conservatives
Then they came for the Republicans
And I did not speak out
Because fuck them Republicans.
Then they came for MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
And there was no one left
Fuck me.
That greatly resembles Tony.
The US Government should no be expending taxpayer monies on telling anyone anything about what constitutes free speech. They should stay out of this arena completely. They have no business in it. All they need to do is ensure that the 1A is protected and that citizens rights to use it are championed and protected.
Gee, you'd think they should be more grateful for all of the work that Reason put in to end mean tweets!
"no information regarding authorship attribution, pre-publication fact-checking or post-publication corrections processes, or policies to prevent disinformation in its comments section."
and
DRUGS!!!
No matter how woke you go, you can never be woke enough. Reason is learning that lesson. I told them they would go after Reason sooner or later. Though I often disagree with Reason, I support their right to spread their woke disinformation and Trump hate. As we have seen, the public forum calls them out on their foolishness.
I see Reason is closing comments early again when they don't like the way comments are going.
Most of what is labeled disinformation is just opinion. Many people want to control the narrative so want no dissenting opinions. The media makes this even worse by presenting their opinions as "news" rather than labeling it as editorials. Your "truths" are someone else's lies if it is opinion. News should stick to the facts.
If you don't like being called liars, maybe try not flat-out lying all the time? Treason.com is flagrantly dishonest on a regular basis and never changes anything even when caught in outright lies.
U.S. State Department Funds a Disinformation Index That Warns Advertisers To Avoid Reason
Reason is to “woke” for even the “woke” Biden Administration? It sure the hell isn’t because they are even a little bit libertarian!
"no information regarding authorship attribution" -- by the criterion, The Economist is a bad publication, since all their articles are unattributed; and yet it's one of the most sensible publications still standing.
Hefty Lefty Jeffy
Oh, you mean Groomer Jeffy, Morbidly Obese Sophist.
It's good to know that the government is actually paying attention!
Well that would render this website useless immediately.
People aren’t here for the libertarian takes.
Ah, they're just scared of the impending wood chipper purge.
As I mention below, it is clear that around 2021, they DID begin to hide the comments from search engines. I do wonder whether it was a result of these pressure campaigns, and think Reason ought to really look at this episode to understand how government hides coercion behind a thin veneer of "Free Markets".
The fact that we were mentioned by a government sponsored blacklisting agency is concerning, however.
At this point I assume we're all on some three letter agency's "Enemy's List" somewhere.
I just assume we're already on a government list.
The only reason they don't nuke the comments section is because they don't read it.
You had to know they never forgave the Woodchipper Incident.
In Hank’s defense, no one really knows what the Hell he’s talking about most of the time.
Hank, Biden (D) and Fetterman (D) combined might be able to form a coherent statement.
Reading a ChatGPT-written speech with from their public statements would be aneurysm inducing.
So might a thousand monkeys banging away on typewriters. Actually, I think the 1,000 monkeys might be more comprehensible.
Isn’t that Crazy to the third power? Exponentially more incomprehensible?
They should have a televised discussion program on tv. It would be unintelligible, but probably be the funniest hour on tv. Oh, and throw Kamala in as moderator.
I'm always pleasantly surprised when I'm allowed to board an airliner. Or buy a gun. But I'm sure it's just a matter of time.
The Bag Man
They do.
https://twitter.com/ENBrown/status/1601256561086988289
Reason commenters make up a very small percentage of our readership, and are largely people who hate everyone on staff and all of our work, on any subject. They’re in now way representative of “libertarian audiences” overall
Not atypical. The crickets are expected.
Once again Dee was cawt in the act.
Facts damaging to the left must be considered right-wing conspiracy for at least two years.
Amd he’s the baronet of lies! Jeffy may be Satan’s retard cousin.
Wimpy! Wimpy! Wimpy!
🙂
Hefty, Hefty, Hefty, Wimpy, Wimpy, Wimpy 1984
https://youtu.be/TJdQfjaRAG0
And since it's way past 1984, Hefty Is Wimpy.
🙂
If she hates the comments, the GDI report will probably have her considering claiming to be suicidal for the attention. The commentariat may point out flaws in pieces the 'editors' write, and support any arguments w/ copious citations. GDI could cost reasonmag more of its waning readership and advertising revenue.