Can the Feds Prosecute Douglass Mackey for His Twitter Trolling?
Because of a series of misleading memes, a troll has been charged with conspiracy "to injure, oppress, threaten and intimidate one or more persons in the free exercise and enjoyment of a right and privilege secured to them by the Constitution and laws of the United States."

In a first-of-its-kind case, the Justice Department is prosecuting an internet troll, using a Reconstruction-era law to claim that a series of misleading social media memes were an attempt to "deprive individuals of their constitutional right to vote."
During the 2016 election season, Douglass Mackey was a prolific far-right Twitter user under the name "Ricky Vaughn." Mackey frequently posted pro-Trump memes and commentary to his 58,000 followers. One MIT Media Lab analysis has claimed that he may have had a larger effect on the 2016 election than NBC News.
At one point he posted a series of images that seemed geared to trick Hillary Clinton supporters into thinking that they could vote by text. "Avoid the line. Vote from home," one of these images reads against a Clinton-branded background. "Text 'Hillary' to 59925." According to a Justice Department press release, at least 4,900 people texted the number before Election Day.
Federal officials say this was a deliberate attempt to violate voters' constitutional rights. On January 27, 2021, they charged Mackey with conspiracy "to injure, oppress, threaten and intimidate one or more persons in the free exercise and enjoyment of a right and privilege secured to them by the Constitution and laws of the United States, to wit: the right to vote." Their case rests on an 1870 law designed to prevent violent white supremacist mobs from preventing black citizens from voting. The Justice Department believes this is the first time an American has faced criminal charges for Twitter disinformation.
Mackey tried to get the case thrown out in district court last month, arguing that his tweets were satiric and First Amendment–protected. His motion to dismiss was denied. Judge Nicholas G. Garaufis wrote, "This case is about conspiracy and injury, not speech….As applied within the Indictment, this law is used to prosecute a conspiracy to trick people into staying home from the polls—conduct effectuated through speech—not a crime particular to the utterances made to effect that aim."
Aaron Terr, an attorney at the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression, disagrees. "The First Amendment presumptively protects all speech unless it falls into a specific, narrowly defined category established by the Supreme Court. And the First Amendment doesn't make a general exemption for false speech," he says."There are certain types of false speech that are established exceptions to the First Amendment, such as defamation or fraud," but Mackey's speech clearly doesn't fall into either category.
Eugene Volokh, a professor at UCLA School of Law, suggested in a recent Tablet article that "narrow and clearly defined statutes that prohibit lies about the mechanics of how to vote are likely constitutional," but he also noted that "there is no such clear and narrow federal statute" in Mackey's case. He added that when similar issues have appeared in court, judges have generally been "quite skeptical about general bans on lies in elections."
If Mackey is convicted, it would pave the way for direct government regulation of a broad category of speech labeled as election "disinformation." The consequences could be far-reaching—possibly causing a range of anti-voting speech to be subject to criminal prosecution.
"I think you can reasonably ask what would [the Justice Department's interpretation of the law] apply to something like somebody simply discouraging people from voting?" Terr added. "I mean, there are serious scholars and commentators who have argued that your vote doesn't matter. What if that causes a large number of citizens to sit on Election Day? Is that harming the election process? Is that harming democracy?…It's just dangerous to grant the government that that type of authority."
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It would certainly cut down on campaign speeches.
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Can the Feds Prosecute Douglass Mackey for His Twitter Trolling?
Who's going to stop them?
An inanimate carbon rod?
Employee of the week, to be sure.
At this point, only one of the Circuits or SCOTUS.
Jesus.
Don't count on it.
https://www.outfable.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/Screenshot_20230213-144228_Twitter-min.jpg
He looks pretty mad in that pic tbqh. Shooting lighting beams from his eyes and all.
A piece of parchment scribbled on by a bunch of dead white males?
Only works if they don't deliberately ignore it.
This is such an evil prosecution. In a just world, the prosecutors would lose their law licenses (including anyone who authorized the prosecution); the judge would be forced to resign and the government would have to pay this guy a fortune. Where is the fair warning on the face of this statute?
That's what we have grand juries for. Presumably, a grand jury agreed with the prosecutor.
No no no no. A GJ does not (or should not) insulate a prosecutor from this. It's far from clear from the statute that this is even close to prohibited. First of all, the conspiracy has to be to injure the person--read the statute carefully--it's nonsensical to speak of oppress "the right to vote"--so you can't say, "Oh you injured his right to vote--ergo you violated the statute." Second, posting a meme doesn't injure anyone's rights.
The fact that a grand jury agreed with the prosecutor means that many people apparently don’t agree with your view.
Interesting view. You're an idiot.
You don't get to label any mere Trump supporter as "far right" until you have labeled every socialist and Marxist (but I repeat myself) as "extreme far left", because this is supposed to be a libertarian web site, and Republicans don't want to restrict liberty nearly as much as socialists and Marxists.
No, no. Reasonista theory teaches that the Woke and the Marxists are just misguided, whereas the proles and their politics are fundamentally malevolent.
That's why the latter are extremists but the former can't be.
They have good intentions in their authoritarianism.
I do say "far left" when appropriate. Far Right is when bring back Jim Crow and export Blacks or just cancel the election and declare Trump dictator for life. Far Left is when they want to nationalize all businesses, nationally televised struggle sessions, demand all children be sent to creches for indoctrinations (Stalin Youth), etc.
Granted there are more Left that fall close to the line than Right, but when even you yourself can't stop from adding extra adjectives on one side into your own post, stop calling out other people on their hyperbole.
So your far right classifications are all retarded Blue Anon bullshit?
I'll take some pearl clutching about drag shows for kids over communism any day. Thanks.
There is a day coming when "fuck you" will be regulated arbitrarily like pistol braces.
And that won't stop me from saying it.
Usually one would posit the hypothetical counterfactual of what would the Justice department do if this was a Democrat trolling republicans.
We need not pose the hypothetical however. Twitter is replete with examples of left winning trolls doing exactly the same thing. It is not hypothetical at all. Some of those trolls have even come from official organizations.
Yet we only hear of a single prosecution of an obvious joke, And obviously on the side of the aisle opposed by the Hidden bureaucracy.
I can think of only the Nunes civil lawsuit. Never a criminal suit.
Well, obviously they can prosecute him. Presumably, a grand jury agreed.
Whether a court will find him guilty is another question, or where this ends up if it goes to SCOTUS.
You seem just fine with that . . . . if so, you are a statist thug.
They can and will procecuters him. They are wrong and morally bacrupt totalitarian ass holes, but they will procecute
The procecuters also pushed to have the jury be only people that are up to date on their Vax, clearly back door jury tampering
this is a brilliant move, i gotta hand it to them
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What's not to prosecute?
They should just skip ahead to the conviction and execution.
We are in the "show me the man and I'll show you the crime" phase of decline.
>>the Justice Department is prosecuting an internet troll
if the jury is made up of anyone but agents of the Justice Department this should be quick
"One MIT Media Lab analysis has claimed that he may have had a larger effect on the 2016 election than NBC News."
My cat had a larger effect on the 2016 election than NBC News.
Also, I suspect that while the MIT Media Lab was obviously bullshitting, this would be the reason that the true believers want to prosecute him so badly.
Only their Jimmy Kimmels and Stephen Colberts get to use humor to push their agenda. Not some memeing riffraff.
Also, I suspect that while the MIT Media Lab was obviously bullshitting, this would be the reason that the true believers want to prosecute him so badly.
Only their Jimmy Kimmels and Stephen Colberts get to use humor to push their agenda. Not some memeing riffraff.
Supposedly, Mackey’s account was ranked something like in the top 100 of most influential Twitter accounts by the Washington Post. He actually bragged about it in his Twitter bio.
Oh, well if the WaPo accuses him of indoctrinating the plebs into Trumpism, he’s a dead man.
"Mackey frequently posted pro-Trump memes and commentary to his 58,000 followers."
That's not even in the top 1000 for follower counts.
Sure, but you don't need a huge follower count if your stuff is getting retweeted or echoed in other accounts. That's probably what it was based on.
>>protects all speech unless it falls into a specific, narrowly defined category established by the Supreme Court
fighting words and incitement to violence are nonsense. show some fucking restraint.
"Protect" free speech by obliterating free speech. Love it. Love everything about it. The New Stasi has surpassed its master.
How dare Mackey threaten our most sacred 21st right: the freedom to be a total idiot and expect that everything will turn out just as we want. And the penumbra requires other people to praise idiot ideas while paying any required costs.
Pleasantly surprised there's not a chorus of bleating trolls whining at how Weezen wanted wis weekuz wey woted wor Widen. Unless they are and I can't see it because they're no mute. Regardless, I'm impressed.
Go fuck yourself, trollboy.
The ironic part of all this shit is that this is basically what the Democrats want to implement. The tech company that Buttigieg's campaign staff had ties to developed an app to do this very thing during the Iowa caucus, and the mail-in ballot reindeer games that the Dems play aren't that far from it.
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For instance, I didn't realize that an MIT Media Lab (I have NO idea what, exactly that is, but I'm running with it) had in fact proved widespread election fraud. My note-taking pen is gonna go dry on this one.
Undoubtedly heads rolled at NBC when they became aware of this. I mean they pulled out all the stops to get Biden elected and they couldn't beat this dude?
"at least 4,900 people texted the number before Election Day"
Of course no one clams they actually attempted to vote. Could it be a small percentage of his 58,000 followers did it for giggles? How many people have called 867 5309 hoping Jenny will answer the phone?
Also if these people were actually fooled into believing this was a real way to vote I would say that they are too stupid to be actually allowed to vote for real.
And your statement - that statement - that some people shouldn't be allowed to vote is rayciss. Sho 'nuff, you is a rayciss.
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If they prosecute him, then Biden must be prosecuted for lying in his campaign, same for Harris, Pelosi, et al.
The Biden Administration is lawless, and supported by major media including Reason. They can do anything they want.
The Biden Administration controls all the levers of government except a closely divided House, which the Biden Administration is currently going after opposition House members. Hopefully that will change in 2025, and these criminals will pay for their crimes.
When government becomes oppressive by violating it's constitution, or becoming totalitarian in nature and actions, the only course of action to solve that problem is eradication of said government primarily by organized guerilla warfare and tactics.
The "Vote Hillary From Home" meme sounds like the constitutionally-protected right to parody other "vote by texting this message" adverts. It is hard to see how parody messages that could possibly cause serious self-harm equate to the remit of this Reconstruction Era law.
Also, the danger that a handful of people might be so foolish and ill-informed as to mistake it for actual voting in a federal election seems theoretical if not non-existent.
And does my right to speak turn on the stupidity or lack thereof of others.
This is a Kafkaesque prosecution.
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