Public Health Researchers Float Idea of Climate-Change Warnings on Menu Items
Warning diners that red meat is bad for the environment is yet another attempt to socially engineer food choices.

A study released last week suggests that fast-food menus that feature labels urging diners not to order red meat off those same menus due to the "climate impact" of those food items can help convince customers to swap out red meat for what the researchers argue are more climate-friendly foods—from fruits and vegetables to poultry and seafood. The study, published in Jama Network Open and led by researchers from Johns Hopkins University, concludes that "climate impact menu labels may be an effective strategy to promote more sustainable restaurant food choices and that labels highlighting high-climate impact items may be most effective."
The study's data comes from more than 5,000 Americans who took part in a nationwide online survey last year. Study participants were instructed to "imagine they were in a restaurant and about to order dinner" from an accurately priced sample menu containing a variety of choices, including hamburgers, chicken sandwiches, plant-based burgers, and salads.
The study asked participants to "order" different foods after viewing one of three types of sample menus online. Outside of a control group, the study presented web users with choices that either disparaged the sustainability of red-meat dishes or touted the sustainability of dishes not containing red meat. Based on the results, which showed people who were more likely to avoid red meat if it had a red warning label and more likely to order other menu items if they featured a green health halo, the authors conclude that "climate impact menu labels [a]re effective" and "that labeling red meat items with negatively framed, red high-climate impact labels was more effective at increasing sustainable selections than labeling non-red meat items with positively framed, green low-climate impact labels."
The study has spurred some news outlets to suggest governments around the world may—or should—operationalize its findings.
"Policymakers have been debating how to get people to make less carbon-heavy food choices," the Guardian recounted in a recent report on the study, "In April, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) report urged world leaders, especially those in developed countries, to support a transition to sustainable, healthy, low-emissions diets."
"Unfortunately, consumers have been resistant to change and many wish to continue eating meat," a Phys.org report on the study laments.
Worse still, though the study itself does not suggest that it should be used to form the basis of any government policies, its lead author, Prof. Julia Wolfson of the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, told CNN last week that "legislation or regulation may be necessary" to force restaurants to add climate warnings to their menus.
Let's pump the brakes—for a couple of reasons.
Data from the study itself and, more generally, on the effectiveness of government-mandated menu labeling suggests the authors may wish to dial down their perception of the effectiveness of the labels they tested. For example, after completing their respective orders, the survey asked participants if they "notice[d] any labels" on the menu. As the study data reveal, only around 4 out of every 10 participants even noticed any climate-related labeling. While that's a low percentage, in the real world—in an actual fast-food restaurant setting rather than in an online survey—the percentage would likely be far lower. That's because, as I've explained time and again, study after study has shown that few people pay attention to mandated menu labels (except to choose which food or foods to order), and even fewer use that information.
The premise of the study itself also may rest on shaky ground. Some critics have pushed back against the notion that some chicken or seafood is more sustainable than all red meat. As the Guardian report on the study notes, "intensively produced chicken has been found to be damaging for the environment, as has some farmed and trawled fish." Others disagree with the very notion that red meat is an inherently unsustainable food. While it's become popular in recent years to argue that eating less red meat is better for the environment, that argument has received a good amount of pushback, with critics charging that swapping out meat for plants could be inefficient and ineffective, harm human health, and have unintended consequences for the developing world.
Even if I were to accept arguments that eating less meat is better for the environment, the choice to eat meat (or not) ultimately is and should be an individual's to make. So it's not "unfortunate" that consumers "wish to continue eating meat," as Phys.org posits. And that wish isn't a cry for government intervention, as Wolfson, the study's lead author, argues. Rather, it's a cry for freedom of choice.
If some restaurants competing in the marketplace care to attempt to skew their customers' choices away from meat and towards vegetarian and/or vegan foods, by all means, they should do so. But the jury is out on whether that would improve the sustainability of those restaurants. What's more, any restaurant that wants to make such a change should do so on its own accord, without the government's prompting, backing, or mandate.
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This was originally written during the era of 9/11 boogie-man terrorism. For the purposes of modernization, please replace any instance of the word 'security' with 'bio-security' and/or 'climate secuirty', and any instance of the word 'terror' with 'virus' and/or 'global warming'. None of this theater has ever been about safety. It has only ever been about control:
We no longer know the meaning of freedom. We have traded away everything to a false prophet. We refuse to see that belonging to a government is a fate far worse than any terrorist can reap; than any madman can sow.
The word of a terrorist has no power over us. The government's word is law.
In the name of security we will lose our security. In addition to the terrorist we will have the relentless uncompromising gaze of the government.
The power of the people is born from its freedom, and it is the people who must be the guardians of that power. It is from our freedom that we draw the authority to force our government to abide its boundaries. Through the guise of security we are slowly allowing our government to relinquish that authority, and ultimately, the government will know no boundaries.
Once we allow our freedoms to categorically run dry, we, as a people, will no longer have the authority to stand up to our government.
https://tritorch.com/liberty
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Freedom has never been popular. To the extent we ever had it, it was imposed on an unwilling populace by elites.
Freedom cannot be imposed. Freedom is the natural order. It is authoritarianism that must be imposed.
No, freedom is not natural. Rule by the strongest and cruelest is the natural order.
Rule is only natural in some species. Not all. Many are isolated non pack animals. In pack animals yes the alpha is rule by power. But among different species rule is also not the correct term.
While strength to overcome conflict is the outcome, this is not order through rule.
No, it is not.
In social groups it may be natural, but even there, it’s not the strongest, and such groups are at most in the hundreds, not the millions.
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Not sure about elites imposing freedom. More like contrarians and disrupters.
I do think more people were inclined towards freedom in the past, at least in the you're-not-the-boss-of-me style. Now it seems people care most about which boss they prefer.
For most of history only high-ranking people could survive being contrarians and disrupters.
I don’t know how much this ages me, but I don’t recall hearing the phrase “You’re not the boss of me” until adulthood. As a kid, if another kid started giving orders the standard response was: “Fuck you, this isn’t Russia!”
And those kids grew up to be cops.
Not all of us! We’d also retorted: “It’s a free country!”
Wonder if kids still say that????
They do not.
Parody is obsolete: Exhibit #197
Scientific American: The “terrifyingly ordinary” nature of football’s violence disproportionately affects Black men
Time to ban the NFL? Or maybe just establish a racial quota system at every position?
#InjuryEquity
Reanimate the corpse of Teddy Roosevelt and calmly, quietly get all the hyphenated-Americans involved, from the playing field to the owner's box to the... offices of Scientific American, and sort this out among themselves without banning anything, lest we have to go big stick on their asses... again.
“In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard; don’t foul and don’t shirk, but hit the line hard!"
"I believe in rough games and in rough, manly sports. I do not feel any particular sympathy for the person who gets battered about a good deal so long as it is not fatal."
Now, get back to scientifically engineering better equipment or get off the field bitches.
https://www.undp.org/blog/why-climate-change-fuels-violence-against-women
Why the surprise? Everything must be seen through the CRT lens.
If anything, we could have fun getting ahead of the anti-racists. In the spirit of Pluckrose and Lindsay, how many “serious” articles can we write demonstrating the depth of American racism?
Also, "Scientific" American went to shit years ago. Read Micheal Shermer's first hand account.
I dropped my subscription sometime between 1976 and 1980 (I remember where I was living) when they ran an article claiming Communism was better than capitalism based on comparison of capitol cities, with his star examples being the two Koreas, complete with pictures of ugly South Korea (full of color, crowded sidewalks, shop windows full, signs all over) and beautiful North Korea (dull shades of gray, empty streets, ugly stone edifices, no signs of any kind).
Other than a few inadvertent clicks recently when I hadn't noticed the URL first, and was always amazed at how woke they are, I haven't read any SciAm articles since.
Judt, in "Post War" has J. P. Sarte lecturing Polish students on the superiority of communism, and wondering why they didn't beat him to death.
Ha! Didn't recognize "Judt", did recognize the book, but didn't find the Sarte reference. That was an interesting book.
Probably one of the other French "intellectuals", since Sarte gave up on them after the '56 Hungarian revolution, and this was closer to the collapse of communism.
But, there he was, traveling from a 'capitalist' country to tell the students how great they had it!
Scientific American's science editors should include former NFL players, just like The Paris Review
If George Plimpton could manage, why not Holden Thorp?
I guess their solution isn’t to ban the NFL to protect black men. It’s to stop paying them to take dangerous jobs. Makes sense.
This might be the most evil, anti scientific statement yet...
https://twitter.com/UN/status/1611362054006345728?t=imKBkAkL2SjyBSp-Fr6GEA&s=19
The climate crisis also affects food safety.
@FAO explains how rising temperatures threaten the production of safe food.
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Look, 10% of people, including most in media and academia, have abandoned reality for a through-the-looking-glass, the-floor-is-hot-lava alternative, which they embrace as unquestionably true. Anything they imagine must be correct, and the more crisis-y, the better.
the-floor-is-hot-lava alternative
When I was young we had to walk 10 miles to school on cold lava, uphill, both ways.
Cold lava? Check your privilege.
That’s a basaltic comment.
So if the whole planet was freezing cold all year long, the whole planet would be a cornucopia?
"So if the whole planet was freezing all year long, the whole planet would be a cornucopia?"
I have heard that icicles come in many amazing flavors!!
It's probably true, with the secret unspoken ingredient being the loss of power for refrigeration and speedy transport of harvests.
The premise of the study itself also may rest on shaky ground. Some critics have pushed back against the notion that some chicken or seafood is more sustainable than all red meat.
This is a pretty shaky attack of what is, effectively, scientific malpractice and dishonest journalism. The study conflates eating meat with carbon change/climate emissions in a way that even HS scientists would rightly find to be dishonest and scientifically dubious to the point of being anti-scientific. The researchers weren't preparing any menu items and producing carbon in the process, they could've whimsically said fried potatoes emit 10X as much carbon as a steak, which emits 10X as much carbon as mashed potatoes, which would more clearly delineate the effect of carbon emissions from a preference for meat or potatoes, but they didn't do that because they aren't doing science or even just trying to be honest... to anyone.
And if they're going to disrespect you and themselves with such dishonesty, why do you show them a greater respect if not to support their dishonesty and perpetrate it on yourself and your readers? Their study is blatantly dishonest, anti-scientific, expensive and actively disinformative bullshit. Tell your readers that and then go enjoy the dish of your choice (I recommend a good smoked brisket, the more wasted carbon the better) content in having done an honest job well.
Hey, if global policies about plastic can be based on a middle school project about straws, then all other policies can be based on whatever imaginary phenomena people dream up.
The study conflates eating meat with carbon change/climate emissions in a way that even HS scientists would rightly find to be dishonest and scientifically dubious to the point of being anti-scientific.
They’re not saying that eating meat creates methane. They’re saying the cows do. Your argument is logically equivalent to environmentalists saying electric cars don’t use fossil fuels, deliberately ignoring the fact that fossil fuels are burned to produce the electricity to charge them.
They aren't even saying that much. They are asserting that producing red meat dinners emits more carbon, with no proof beyond "we said so".
Just 25,000 years ago at the height of the last "ice age", billions of Aurochs, Wisent, Mammoths, Mastadons, Megaloceros, Moose, Caribou, Wapiti and other large deer, Camalops, Camels, Litopterns, Notoungulates, Carodnias, Astrapotheres, Sivatherium, Long-horned and Plains Bison, Horses, Onagers, etc. roamed the planet in far greater total numbers than today's cattle.
All were gut fermenters and all emitted methane.
Good thing our noble primitive ancestors ate them.
Wait…..MASTADONS emit methane??? Does ENB know about this?
They are asserting that producing red meat dinners emits more carbon, with no proof beyond “we said so”.
They've been saying for a long time that cows produce methane. I thought it was common knowledge.
I'm not agreeing with the study or the environments are anything like that. My comment was simply on the logic of mc's statement.
Your comment was as stupid as always.
No one said anything about "eating" creating methane. Another strawman you dragged in from nowhere. The only excuse you have is intentionally misunderstanding this in the comment you are replying to, and no one is that stupid.
No one, not a single person, would ever mistake that to mean that the physical act of eating meat is the literal meaning of that quote. Not even you. It is pure strawman.
Sarc often tries to find the one tangential fact he knows about a comment and feels if he states said fact he will come across as intelligent. Even if the fact is non responsive to the comment in any way. That is why he often “misreads” posts.
They're not studying whether cows or meat create anything. They're studying whether the climate information creates disinterest in the food. The more environmentally sound mashed potatoes would be more popular than the fried potatoes and the meat would be irrelevant.
Your argument is saying their argument is saying because meat is bad for the environment we should print all menus in black and white.
These guys have been saying for a long time that meat production puts methane into the atmosphere. You moved the goalposts to the cooking of the meat in order to belittle them. All I'm saying is that there are plenty of ways to argue against these nitwits without resorting to logical fallacies.
Right. Your argument is saying their argument is saying because meat is bad for the environment we should print all menus in black and white. I'm not resorting to any logic fallacy here.
You aren't commenting on the study *or* my logic, you're just blathering.
There is no way some of the commenters here are going to give anything you say a fair reading.
There are reasons for that.
It's Mike. He's about as obtuse as they come here.
It's not moving the goalpost to question the methodology of a study. If you say a fish has less of a carbon footprint because it swims around in the ocean, while a cow emits CO2 via flatulence that is establishing a post of measurement. At that stage, yes, the cow is more carbon forward than a fish. (And it has not been established that the net carbon effect is negative, neutral or positive. All animals exist, eat, shit and fart. Are cows that much more detrimental?)
At the next stage, the study jumps to the conclusion that eating fish is more carbon positive that red meat without any qualifiers. What if my fish is cooked on a BBQ outside, sending billows of smoke into the atmosphere, while my cow meat is slowly simmered in a stew? There are many other variables to consider.
And, again, it isn't a study of the amount of carbon being produced, it's a study of the effect of printed words in people's heads.
You *could*, conceptually, tease out exactly how many kCal/gT humans generally find acceptable, or if such information is even relevant in the decision, but the study doesn't even attempt to do that. It's not science it's a journalistic propaganda piece masquerading as science trying to steal a, or several bases about food production, preparation, and distribution. At best, it's non-scientific ad copy to drum up more grant money but, even then, the methodology is so shitty that it's anti-scientific.
It might as well be a study of the holiness of sacramental wine showing that rice wine from Asia is less holy than grape wine from Rome and the researchers confounded to discover that people prefer the complete unholiness of concord grape juice.
More precisely, they are studying how to best distort public opinion in order to justify authoritarian programs, ultimately leading to good news about another reduction in the chocolate ration.
You and your chocolate ration. Have you checked the monthly coffee ration?! Good luck staying awake during those evening indoctrination sessions!
They'll clamp your eyelids open if necessary.
The fact that dirty, wooden, carbon neutral clamps are better for indoctrination purposes has nothing to do with the fact that we want to grind filthy wood splinters into people's eyes... we've got proof.
I never claim to be an expert on climate matters, but it looks to me that many climate experts who point to the methane emissions from cattle aren’t taking into account that cattle (and other ruminants) and grasslands have co-evolved. They are ignoring that cattle keep grasslands healthy.
Good point, and they never do. The studies put the stake in the ground for one element of the process without acknowledging other factors of an overall healthy world. CO2, for example, is needed. Why is it the only villain in this equation?
https://twitter.com/Humble_Analysis/status/1611457048549679105?t=xRdCKBGHdtz7fNEsLdn2Xg&s=19
In Australia, the more doses of vaccine you've received, the more likely you are to end up in the ICU. Is this how vaccines normally work?
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Yes. Now stick out your arm.
It probably has some reverse causality. Healthy people are getting fed up about the whole thing and are not getting boosters. The deathly ill are getting every booster because they know they need every small boost they get.
And so, those most vulnerable Thus, the hospitalized are more likely to have all the boosters when they end up in the ICU for everything from cancer to heart attack.
Last time I looked into such a study, any ailment post-vaccination was blamed on the vaccine. That's equating correlation with causation. It's not even remotely honest.
Cite one study that does what you claim. You failed to provide citations for your accusations yesterday as well. So guessing this is again a lie.
He overheard a talking head on CNN make excuses and throw shade. That's the max level of any vigorous inquiry by Sarc.
Agreed.
Ben’s right. Also, consider the testing samples.
Everyone who was likely to get a case of covid and be forcibly tested also had been forcibly vaccinated. In the contrapositive, those unlikely to be tested because of youth and good overall health were least likely to be vaccinated.
Not to get all pro-vaxx, but without more clarity, yes. You get vaccinated for polio so your legs work. You hop into a car with your working legs, get into a car accident, and wind up in the ICU.
This was part of the point of the whole idiotic zero COVID/vaxx mandate mentality. Once everyone is vaccinated, 100% of people dying of COVID will have been vaccinated, regardless of whether the vaccine is 1%, 10%, 90%, 99%, or 99.9999999% effective.
The point of a vaccine is to prevent infections. That's not addressed by this simple statement or necessarily clearly addressed by the data. What is addressed, clearly, is that a policy of repeatedly vaccinating everyone to 'flatten the curve' is an utter failure. Which was known, or should have been, before the vaccine was first developed.
Couple this with the destruction of two dozen food processing plants and food storage facilities and this goes right along with the WEF plan to starve 80% of the population. The rest will be held in slavery.
As David Icke stated, "when you control the food supply, you control the people."
So why hasn’t David Icke did a hostile takeover of lizard food companies to stop the Lizard People from taking over the world?
🙂
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John Bolton announces he's running for president
Buttplug loves warmongering Neocons so there's one vote anyway
But it 8snt for vanity per Bolton. He may be the only one to get less votes than Liz.
#Bolton/Cheney2024
Yeah, I don’t see much appetite out there for this, speaking of menus…..
How about Bolton/Bolton 2024?
John Bolton and VP Michael Bolton. Either the musician or the fictional character from Office Space. At this juncture in our so-called elections would it matter which no-talent ass clown was VP?
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Immanentizing the eschaton
A startup says it’s begun releasing particles into the atmosphere, in an effort to tweak the climate
All these Gaia cultists are going to plunge us into a sudden ice age yet.
But why stay small when you can solve two blue check bogeymen, Russia and Global Warming, with one simple solution.
Could A Small Nuclear War Reverse Global Warming?
Lysenkoism is truly dangerous.
When did scientists start believing in Intelligent Design?
I think Upton Sinclair explains why. Something about paychecks.
The startup better have notified Secretary Raimondo beforehand, or it's in for a world of trouble
https://reason.com/video/2022/09/12/crime-squad/
That 'start up' is as obvious a scam as you're likely to find. It may not be an intentional scam, personally I think that's more likely, but even if that guy is a true believer what he's doing is about as likely to alter the planetary climate as a 10 year old pissing in the ocean.
That said, yes that is my big fear of all this manufactured hysteria.
It's tremendously difficulty for a thing as small as man to make larges changes to Earth's climate, even small one's are incredibly difficult, but if mankind comes to believe it's truly an existential threat to humanity we could easily freeze ourselves to death on purpose.
Which, I suppose, was what people like Ehrlich wanted all along. Lots and lots of murder 'for our own good'. It's probably not a coincidence that the big villain of the MCU films was, in essence, Paul Ehrlich.
Hey, PEACE, peace-dawgs!!! Let's make peace-love, NOT ideological WAR, PLEASE!!!
Let us let "them" (so-called "progs") "have it their way", and put globabble warmererering babblings on our helpings of meat, OK?
IN EXCHANGE FOR THIS, the proggies will then allow us to MANDATE warnings on birth-control pills, IUDs, condoms, etc., that "This device stops a wiggling tail, and Every Sperm is Sacred!"
"Public Health Researchers Float Idea of Climate-Change Warnings on Menu Items"
Soon to be a Babylon Bee piece.
Also the piece 5 yrs. down the road when public health experts are baffled as to why climate change warnings appear to make food tastier.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/german-doctor-gets-2-years-jail-illegally-writing-thousands-mask-exemptions
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Because of course her grift is not yet done
Columbia University Hires Hillary Clinton for Professor ‘of International and Public Affairs’
Her husband is much more knowledgeable about public affairs.
Billary-Bob Clinton and public affairs? You mean pubic affairs, right?
The position was offered to Eric Swalwell and he refused.
University and the publishing industry may be bigger political money launderers than even FTX.
Congress truly needs to pass a law about no prepay for books to politicians. They can only get sale based profits. Because it is a huge scam to pay off favored politicians. Didnt Cori Bush sell only like 5k copies but made hundreds of thousands?
You get more of what you subsidize. Subsidizing sciencey stuff and student loans leads to more marginal students pursuing marginal fields taught by marginal teachers. The resultant marginal journals and marginal studies is no surprise.
Dropping student loan subsidies and government science funding would do marvels for the replicability of science reports, and wokism and climate alarmunisn would die sudden deaths.
Limit all Congress critters and all staff to their government pay while in office and for as long afterwards as they were in office. They want to suck off the government teat, they can forgo the public one.
Would have the nice benefit of term limits; those wanting advances on publishing their books would not be interested in waiting that long.
I have no problem them owning a business with normalized profit gains. But publishing and fake teaching jobs make no sense as the industries operate at a loss while paying the politician.
Why can’t they just become MSM talking heads? Why hasn’t anyone thought of that?
Because of course her grift is not yet done
No, but the do-nothing-while-getting-showered-with-money academic position is generally the final stage. This may be her finally giving up on seeking office again.
After losing to Donald Trump, possibly one of the biggest blowhard scam artists in recent political history, I'd say she'd be a damn fool to seek office again since it would literally just embarass the family more than they already have been.
I'd guess they'll settle for grooming their children's children since Chelsea doesn't seem to have an interest in politics outside of living off the Foundation and making children's books. She's probably the least corrupt Clinton, which is perhaps damning with faint praise.
"Chelsea doesn’t seem to have an interest in politics outside of living off the Foundation and making children’s books."
What do you get when you cross a crooked lawyer with a corrupt politician?
I'm not really sure, but at least one possible answer is someone with two really good examples of how not to live one's life. Pretty sure she's probably your typical trust fund / sinecure kid that doesn't really have much interest in anything their parents do or did.
I imagine she learned from an early age to overlook a lot of things her parents did.
She just realizes she isn't popular or interesting. See her time as a news agent.
"Donald Trump, possibly one of the biggest blowhard scam artists in recent political history"
Interesting assessment of the guy sandwiched between Barack Obama's 2 terms and Joe Biden's.
https://twitter.com/ConceptualJames/status/1611741878080229377?t=n8HWX9AiPvQP8yRQZLSuiQ&s=19
They're telling you, if you'll listen to them. You only say it's not Communism because you don't even know who Deng Xiaoping was.
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James Lindsay would be the best writer on reason
That's two Lindsay references in the same comments section. Does that makes him alt-right?
At least as far as ENB would be concerned.
That is some fugly architecture!
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They should have just asked Buttplug, he's been manufacturing anti-pipeline excuses since forever.
Biden Admin Tries Justifying Canceling Keystone XL Despite Decision Killing Thousands of Jobs
"Biden’s Department of Energy recently released a report which showed the consequences of his decision to cancel the Keystone XL Pipeline during his first week in office.
...The report, which the Department of Energy (DOE) completed in late December without any public announcement, says the Keystone XL project would have created between 16,149 and 59,000 jobs and would have had a positive economic impact of between $3.4-9.6 billion, citing various studies."
Shrike will have the correct narrative shortly.
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Petite Gestapo
Capitol Police Arrest Ashli Babbitt’s Mother on Anniversary of Capitol Hill Riot for Jaywalking and Blocking Traffic
https://twitter.com/Styx666Official/status/1611738685644443649?t=wocTJP01zYgDePU1UOCcRQ&s=19
The replies are so angeringly trashy that it's almost enough to make a person misanthropic.
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Keep encouraging people to read this on the ground history of the J6 protests. Has information about Ashli as well and how the cops escalated the violence.
https://mobile.twitter.com/TaylerUSA/status/1611395432948682755
Oddly the reporter was not interviewed by the J6C.
Tayler Hansen
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For a while, all was calm and peaceful. Then a concussion grenade was thrown deep into what was a peaceful crowd. This caused an eruption within the crowd.
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The crowd surged due to those in the back not understanding what was happening, pushing others forward consistently.
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For over an hour, a continuous barrage of concussion grenades, tear gas, pepper spray, and other crowd munitions were deployed on the crowd.
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This affected thousands of people, most of whom had no idea what was going on and hadn’t been violent at all.
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I was hit by multiple rubber munitions and maced into absolute oblivion, even while wearing visible Press Credentials.
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The Police were 10x more aggressive than I have ever seen at any riot I covered in 2020.
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For over an hour this went on, during this barrage Kevin Greeson and Benjamin Phillips both suffered fatal heart attacks from the munitions being thrown. (Munitions we’re not authorized to be used on the 6th)
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People were on fire and had holes blown in them at this point.
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After an Officer pushed Derrick Vargo off of the inaugural stairs, breaking his legs, the Officer taunted the crowd below who were visibly upset. This caused a crowd to surge up the staircase which eventually arrived at the Western doors of the Capitol.
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In defeat, malice. In victory, revenge.
California's Kevin McCarthy Wins 15th Vote, Finally Prevails to Become House Speaker
In defeat, malice. In victory, revenge.
Both sides.
https://twitter.com/Oilfield_Rando/status/1611727448613208065?t=aHJHQnP3z_ieXocTog8KuQ&s=19
The inefficiency of electric vehicles is a feature. Not a bug. They’re not trying to replace ICE with EV. They’re trying to replace driving with walking.
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This is every 80's dystopian movie come to life.
All at once.
If all of those movies taught me anything it’s that I need to make friends with a killing machine, have a shit load of guns, keep cash on me at all times, and know how to survive in the woods for a few nights.
They're already doing that in some British towns with the "15 minute rule".
Coming soon to America and the town near you.
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Climate change warnings on menus? Not enough!
We need to demand food ratings for white patriarchy, anti-racism, cultural appropriation, trans-support, and MAGA risk.
In the future, Trans fats will be good for you.
" not to order red meat off those same menus due to the "climate impact"
I remember one commercial, with a voice of doom, instructing the viewer that it takes 97 gallons of water to produce one pound of beef. A gallon of water weighs 8.34 lbs, so that means 809 lbs. of water to one pound of beef. I don't know about you, but last time I bought a pound of beef, I could swear 808 lbs. of water weren't included. Do you think maybe the cow released them back into the environment to repeat the cycle over and over again? Isn't that "sustainability" in action?
Transpiration has been removed from the woke water cycle.
Math is racist!
This implies water is cheap.
I actually posted this on Usenet newsgroups over eleven years ago.
https://groups.google.com/g/ca.politics/c/soX0SSy9jGw/m/TYCczoffPFcJ
Depends on where you are. In LA it ought to be more expensive to buy than petroleum; in New England we pull if out of the ground for the cost of electricity (granted, that's not quite the deal that it was 5 years ago).
They are going to have lots of water with the next storm on Monday.
Yep, we’re getting a pretty good soaking tonight as well. But Monday should be a hootenanny!
That drought is going out with a bang, apparently. Hopefully this will fully replenish the snowpacks and fill the reservoirs to capacity.
Yes PLEASE!!!
If you read his link (no judgement), he performs the off-hand calculation based on SoCal relative to labor. So whether you pay the slaves top dollar to pump the water out of the ground and carry it or scrape the salt out of the desalinators when they're done carrying it is a bit moot.
Depends on where one is. If you're in Wisconsin, water is very cheap for cows. Not so much in California.
920 gallons of water to make a gallon of almond milk. (Says Google.)
So it’s a bad idea to water trees?
Almond beverage. Since when could you milk an almond the way you can a cow teat? And since when was an almond a mammal?
Do you think those trees never give off water moisture? Aka transpiration. Wait. You think water is HO2. Never mind.
Just trying to imagine what gray-box ankle-biting gnats Don't look, Troll, and JesseAZ could possibly have to say in response to my quoting Google on how much water it takes to raise almonds.
They’re poking fun at you.
Worth pointing out that this property isn’t unique to water either.
Just imagine large enclaves of fully-autonomous, self-replicating carbon capture devices that sequester carbon for almost 100 yrs… or even a hierarchical system of them where a plethora of much more diverse, efficient, hearty, and nimble carbon capture devices, which last only about 20 yrs., feed into the longer-lived ones (who are themselves constantly replicating and redesigning themselves to sequester carbon longer) in a sort of web. Sure, there would be leakages at various points in the chain, but as long as there were more and more of the individual storage devices at the top, you’d know more carbon had been sequestered. If there got to be too many of the “apex carbon stores”, we could send some of them to the Moon or Mars.
We should build a system like that.
In the latest issue of DC Comics’ series, "The Joker: The Man Who Stopped Laughing," Batman’s nemesis actually carries and gives birth to a child.
Why? Did Batman fail to overcome the evil forces banning abortion?
Even in Bizarro World birthing persons are not funny.
Should help that the shooter was eating with his black friend when this went down
https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1611576203173048320?t=wGHVaZDAwSurn0r2BbUvGg&s=19
Houston Police are seeking a robbery victim who shot dead a masked male who used a realistic-looking fake handgun to rob people at the Ranchito Taqueria on Jan. 5. Because the robber was black, some leftist activists say this was an unjustified shooting.
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It’s ok to shoot white guys?
More better to run them over with red SUVs.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11608827/Black-boy-12-autism-cuffed-CONCUSSED-police-officers-police-outreach-program.html
Black boy, 12, with autism is cuffed and CONCUSSED by police officers after mom signed him up to law enforcement-run tennis program to try and teach him positive attitude towards cops
Sorry lady, but that's what happens when you attempt to teach really stupid shit to your child.
The "and now his grades are slipping" is a bit of a reach but, otherwise, yes, this is the police abuse story you're looking for.
https://twitter.com/AtlRey/status/1611764190489845763?t=I-LzVKmCjF_riBBmbmAdVg&s=19
Zelensky congratulated Kevin McCarthy on becoming Speaker of the House, telling him Ukraine is counting on his “continued support” and more U.S. aid.
"Ukraine is counting on... more U.S. aid."
So are the grifters who elected McCarthy.
https://summit.news/2023/01/06/who-anti-vaccine-activism-is-deadlier-than-global-terrorism/
How so? It doesn’t stop infection or transmission. Plus, if you look at the Australia story above, it doesn’t even keep you out of the hospital.
It doesn't matter how you get the populace to believe dissidents are terrorists merely for existing, it only matters that they believe dissidents are terrorists and therefore it is ok to surveil, imprison, and kill them.
Public Health Researchers Float Idea of Climate-Change Warnings on Menu Items Warning diners that red meat is bad for the environment is yet another attempt to socially engineer food choices.
Not saying “There Oughtta Be A Law” or anything, but it might be helpful if restaurants gave an audible warning about which dishes could result in gas. You know, like this.
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Funniest scene in all moviedom. I've laughed so hard watching that that I almost couldn't catch my breath. Thanks for making me think of it - even that is enough to start a chuckle.
Mel Brooks was always a comedy genius and Blazing Saddles was his Magnum Opus. I’m glad I brought some cheer here.
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Sadly, even thinking of a blazing Saddles today would get you shot.
Aw, cheer up now! The new sheriff is a n….nearing. He’s a-nearing.
Cantankerous cynical old coot that I am becoming, my tendency would be to request of the waitron "which of these flagged items is worst for the planet" and then say "thanks!, I'll have that".
It's a power trip, pure and simple.
If the vegetables emit less carbon when I don't eat them, I'll have an extra side of vegetables. If not, I'll just have whatever comes with the meal.
One egg, bean and broccoli platter, coming right up.
https://twitter.com/ryangerritsen/status/1611226623717609474?t=iGRBb1JQuLiK8tdARbMRDw&s=19
They are all puppets forced to keep spreading propaganda. It’s pretty sickening.
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"Global Citizenship" does not exist, but it's coming for your children. What rights will you have? What responsibilities? Fear not, just get on board.
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Rights? LOL
https://twitter.com/Oilfield_Rando/status/1611756909383614465?t=YagqCZ7Mz9FAU-0j3d2BVw&s=19
When can we talk about the US military becoming one of the biggest money laundering vehicles for the decarbonizationists?
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Why are all the very best of modern conveniences something that:
1- the common man must give up in service to Gaia
2- the elites absolutely love, and refuse to give up
Or did I miss the memo where the elites were planning on cutting down on their private jets and filets?
We all look to the governor of California for inspiration in this regard.
You beat me to it. I instantly flashed to an images of washed clothes hanging out to dry somewhere in Paris….
New homes will be built with all electric home appliances. Meanwhile the people writing the regulations are installing the Viking Professional 5 Series Dual Fuel Range for $17,879 in their own homes.
https://www.snowappliance.com/cooking/ranges/dual-fuel-ranges/VDR5488BSS
Those are things of beauty. I like the bright red or the robin's egg blue.
I imagine most of the people buying them though will never set foot in their kitchens.
The wife was watching an HGTV show where the designer person was clearly a more CA centric lady.
She was pushing the client (well-to-do white lady) on the benefits of electric induction, its great, blah blah, etc. The lady takes one look at it and goes..."ya I think ill take a more 'traditional' range".
And I am sure she has a BLM/Ukraine flag in her yard, believes 'love is love', is 4x vaxxed, and endlessly prattles on about climate change.
These people are all the same, and their gov is a perfect rep for them. "Someone!" should do something about XYZ problems, but it is never them. Its always everyone else needs to sacrifice, but they for some reason never do.
See also: Obama's putting in hotel-sized gas tanks for their Martha's Vineyard estate (at sea level...). Yup, burning gas is def ending the world, and the sea is rising so fast it will swallow us all whole any day now. Why cant the stupid common man listen to Barack and Michelle when they scream about this stuff I wonder?
I remember when I used to commonly fly on private jets. Over 20 years ago. No longer for me.
When 1%-ers sit in their giant mansions and hear stuff like: "Tiny Homes, Reduce Your Carbon Footprint, Downsizing, It's Only Material Things, Water Shortage, Cow Farts, Universal Income, Inequality, Income Gap, Transgender Bathrooms, etc. they laugh and laugh.
The serf's squabble amongst themselves, they always have.
Don't forget "Eat Crickets to Save the Planet" as they dine on Wagyu Beef.
If some restaurants competing in the marketplace care to attempt to skew their customers' choices away from meat and towards vegetarian and/or vegan foods, by all means, they should do so.
Yeah, they already do that and unsurprisingly they aren't very popular places to go unless you're one of the people they specifically cater to. Also unsurprisingly, those types of restaurants are only popular in major metropolitan area's that have enough population density that catering to such a niche market is even possible.
This is literally why they want to mandate this stuff. It's not generally popular, and as pointed out not only is the research itself on shaky ground but consumer sentiment is already a known factor. People don't want to eat bugs and plants, and we actually have a few thousand years of history to go by on that one. Generally speaking, cultures that are more 'vegan' often have religious reasons for that.
And, at least in my opinion, most vegans are religious in their views as opposed to scientific. Some amount of them do indeed eat the way they do for purely health reasons but the majority of people I've known who are vegan do it because they have bizarro quasi-religious beliefs about it. That's their business, but forcing McDonalds to fabricate bullshit numbers no one is going to read for people who will never eat there anyway is just straight up eco-fascism designed to further cement a fundamentally flawed ecological narrative.
I won't eat any crickets unless and until it is mandatory that they are raised humanely, with at least one cubic meter per cricket.
Based on the results, which showed people who were more likely to avoid red meat if it had a red warning label and more likely to order other menu items if they featured a green health halo,
You're kidding me. This study was done by people who call themselves scientists.
no they are not hard scientists but bolshies with an agenda. They hate everything that they believe "oppresses" the "marginalized" groups and like all people with deep inferiority complexes want control. F them all
They hate that anyone is enjoying themselves. They hate joy itself.
A day late, but I'm having an epiphany.
I can no longer give these people the benefit of the doubt that they mean well, but are mistaken. They know exactly what they are doing: they desire and intend to destroy both our economy and our Republic. They are cruel and evil.
Welcome to the party, pal
What are we drinking? I'd like to know, 'cause I think we're going to need a lot of it.
This is why no one trusts Public Health officials any more.
"Public Health" experts...is there such a thing? I've noticed the infestation of leftie liberal art majors and their narratives in supposedly science-based journals. SA is trash..even Physics.org pushes the woke bs (instead of say admiting the last 50 years of particle physics has been a dead end and QM is still an incomplete theory).
This is the result of putting in "pollical commissars" into every academic/govt/corporate HR department.
Math is racist.
Will since AA test lower than Asian Americans in math tests..math is by the criteria of DIE racist.
Post modernism is a disease. One that encourages dumbasses to think they are right because they get to decide what is right and wrong through illogical rationalization.
Trust your feelz.
Check the Scientific American headlines now vs. 40 or 50 years ago. Here's some from today:
The US Could Help Solve its Poverty Problem with a Universal Basic Income
Damar Hamlin's Collapse Highlights the Violence Black Men Experience in Football
Overturning Roe and Other Reproductive Health Stories of 2022
Meet the Medical Student Challenging Racial Bias with TikTok
Are Home Insurers Abandoning Communities Vulnerable to Climate Change?
ChatGPT Explains Why AIs Like ChatGPT Should be Regulated
International Sports Need to Prioritize Sustainability
Yup, that sounds like the official Science!, as approved by the dominant academic political movement.
Hey Reason, this is how it's done.
I chuckled at his "Adam Smith ... Adam Schiff" fumble. A Freudian slip?
Aside from that, I'm glad to see Reason has competition, but it's too bad Reason doesn't rise to meet the market demand.
Sometimes their 15-20-25... snippets are depressing, showing how strong the rag used to be in favor of liberty. Nowadays the best they manage is utilitarian arguments showing how inefficient government is, but seldom accompanied by any discussion of private sector replacements, let alone how much better they would be.
They're pretty good on food trucks... I think.
Yeah, but they were coached.
Roach coached.
"Sometimes their 15-20-25… snippets are depressing, showing how strong the rag used to be in favor of liberty."
The difference between then and now is astonishing. Almost like it's no longer the same magazine.
Nazi-Propaganda on dinner menu's too?
You know who else would be A-OK with that (especially if it hypes vegetarian cuisine)?
Russell Brand?
Climate change warning: If the recent warming trend reverses and the Earth cools once again, humanity could suffer as it has during previous Ice Ages and mini-Ice Ages, and beef may become less available. But while it’s warm and the land is productive, enjoy this selection of hamburgers and steaks.
This report makes me really want a good, juicy, steakburger.
On a Brioche bun or Kaiser roll, slightly toasted, with fresh sliced onion, Cherokee tomato slice and a bit of gem lettuce. Burger, top that off with a slice of Havarti and some mild cheddar, then applewood smoked bacon slices and a couple of sandwich sliced Claussen dill pickles.
Regular thursday specials at the small chain near me: decent 20 - 24 oz strip steaks, reasonably trimmed, $12.99/ #.
Definitely worth firing up the grill even if it means cooking in the dark with a wool ski cap on!
Well well well ... equity is getting dumber and dumber. From Examining recent attempts to apply equity policies to toll lanes by the Reason Foundation's Robert Poole:
When everybody is special, nobody is special.
I don't know why this kind of woke stupidity still amazes me, but it does. My brain is just not equipped to understand or predict this level of bizarre implausible imagination in pursuit of dictatorship.
I’m carrying “Equity” under one arm, and “Sustainability” under the other. Now, can someone please direct me to the nearest privy? I might be a while, these two huge ideological turds are gonna need several flushings.
https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1611828847422615553?t=nIfT0YDXmsLliR0qrg3Fcw&s=19
NEW - Biden admin quietly admits canceling Keystone XL Pipeline cost up to 59,000 jobs and $9.6 billion.
Meanwhile, Hunter Biden continues to profit from the world's worst polluting Chinese energy companies through his 10% equity stake in Bohai Harvest.
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“Hunter Biden’s Dick…”
Does anyone know if the Big Guy got 10% of THAT cut?
Land Acknowledgment Notice: This restaurant was built on land claimed by the local County government. We must pay annual property taxes to them, and comply with all federal, state and local regulations, and pay all state and federal income taxes. All of these items are included in the costs you see on the menu. Please contact your government representatives to reduce these taxes and regulations if you think our prices are too high.
Actually, a good idea.
People need to be reminded at every opportunity that the "public health" experts are idiots.
https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1611551765425709056?t=4Tujlj-G8QOYUcI_dK076g&s=19
FLASHBANG
Capitol Police threw flashbangs into a peaceful crowd 20 minutes before any rioting started.
This was followed by rubber bullets, tear gas, and pepper spray.
Is this how you use stun grenades on a peaceful crowd or is this how you incite a riot
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Maybe we could get a comment about this one, you know, in between Josh Hawley Authoritarian articles.
The article never once mentions The First Amendment of the Internet. I'm guessing that because SPS isn't... *checks notes* Josh Hawley, it doesn't occur to our intrepid reporter to even ask about it.
Yet another fantastic idea.
Let's get a court ruling that any kid with a cellphone is crazy.
Silly to conclude any influence on eating patterns from an experiment like this. People influenced at the moment may decide against something they like, but after they miss it a while will go back to it.
And why not? Mystical superstition is a traditional generator of food cranks with suggestions for coercion at gunpoint as the proper way to meddle in other people's diets. It's... what's the word? Conservative!
Care to provide some examples of "conservatives" enforcing their food preferences on others at the point of a gun?
That's a great synopsis of Duck Dynasty !
It's not a conservative issue, but both conservatives and liberals support it, therefore support enforcement at the point of a gun: Bans on horse meat and eating dogs.
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