Yet Another Senator Bungles the First Amendment To Justify Censorship
This week, a clip of Maryland Sen. Ben Cardin claiming that speech that espouses "hate" and "violence" is not protected by the First Amendment made the rounds on Twitter, sparking sharp backlash.

While misconceptions about free speech run rampant, it's always surprising when the person spouting falsehoods about what the First Amendment protects is someone with real political power. Earlier this week, Sen. Ben Cardin (D–Md.) made such an error, asserting during a Senate hearing that the First Amendment doesn't protect those who espouse "hate" or "violence." Not only is this claim brazenly wrong, but the fact that Cardin was using this misconception to justify online censorship makes it particularly frustrating.
On Wednesday, Cardin posted a clip to Twitter from a closing statement he made during a December 13 Senate hearing on antisemitism. In the clip, Cardin states that "if you espouse hate, if you espouse violence, you're not protected under the First Amendment. So I think we can be more aggressive in the way that we handle that type of use of the internet. We know that Europe has done things, and I think we have to learn from each other." The tweet accompanying the clip reads "Our first amendment is one of the defining jewels of this country. It is NOT a free pass to spew violent rhetoric."
The clip was also posted by The Hill, whose tweet eventually gained over 600 quote tweets and 1.7 million views. The backlash to the senator's comments was swift, with hundreds of replies jumping to correct Cardin.
"Hate speech is absolutely protected by the First Amendment—explicitly so, according to the Supreme Court," Reason's Robby Soave tweeted about the incident. "Embarrassing when people don't know this, moreso when it's a U.S. senator."
On Thursday, Cardin appeared to backtrack, tweeting an extended clip of his original comments with the caption, "Hate speech is protected under the #FirstAmendment, unless it incites violence. #context." In the clip itself, Cardin is shown prefacing his original statement by adding that he believes the government should begin regulating internet speech, saying "I do think there's a role for government, consistent with our First Amendment, for us establishing parameters."
While Cardin is correct to note that "hate speech" is legally protected unless it falls under another category of unprotected speech, like incitement of violence, the additional context does not make his assertions any more legally correct. Speech that "espouses hate" is almost universally protected by the First Amendment, and speech that "espouses violence" also has a surprisingly high chance of being protected. In fact, the legal bar for incitement of violence is so high that even the most aggressive online speech would probably have a slim chance of actually being declared an incitement of violence. As the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression (FIRE) notes, "Mere advocacy of lawbreaking or violence remains protected speech as long as it is not intended to and likely to provoke immediate unlawful action." Other categories of unprotected speech that might "espouse violence," like harassment or true threats, have similarly high bars.
Further, Cardin's comments consist of more than just a simple misunderstanding of constitutional law. They reveal a troublingly common view on tech censorship—one that is increasingly present on both the left and right. For Cardin, and many others, the presence of online speech he finds distasteful—in this case, speech which is "hateful" or apparently "violent"—is worthy of government regulation and intervention. While this push toward technocratic intervention in Big Tech is increasingly popular on the left, support for government censorship is also endemic on the right. Republican lawmakers are increasingly calling for government censorship of library books and critical race theory—not to mention attacks on social media companies' First Amendment right to kick disfavored users and content off their sites.
Unfortunately, as Cardin's comments show, the First Amendment seems to be going out of style on all sides of the political spectrum.
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He's only saying out loud what most Democrats think.
Actually BOTH SIDES oppose free speech AND Section 230! Which (among other reasons) is why we need to KEEP Section 230! AND we need to add an S-230 for hardcopy rags, an S-230 for software algorithms, an S-230 for smoke signals, an S-230 for Morse Code, and SO much more, to keep ALL the power pigs and greedy deep-pockets-seeking lawyers under control!
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It is an acronym after all, right?
Is it? I’ve never been clear in what the hell it’s supposed to reference, if anything.
From the very tippy-top of the buried link in my posting-name…
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Misuse of 230's Good Samaritan clause is what gave the Dept. of Homeland Security, the FBI, the CIA and the Whitehouse cover to embark on the biggest illegal mass spying and censorship exercise against the citizenry in the entire history of the USA.
An unprecedented violation of the first amendment that may very well destroy America.
So of course Democratic Party mouthpiece, Shillsy, would both sides in frenetic defense,
But not at gun point. - sarcasmic.
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Look, I’ll make it pretty simple for simpletons. A prime argument of enemies of Section 230 is, since the government does such a HUGE favor for owners of web sites, by PROTECTING web site owners from being sued (in the courts of Government Almighty) as a “publisher”, then this is an unfair treatment of web site owners! Who SHOULD (lacking “unfair” section 230 provisions) be able to get SUED for the writings of OTHER PEOPLE! And punished by Government Almighty, for disobeying any and all decrees from Government Almighty’s courts, after getting sued!
In a nutshell: Government Almighty should be able to boss around your uses of your web site, because, after all, Government Almighty is “protecting” you… From Government Almighty!!!
Wow, just THINK of what we could do with this logic! Government Almighty is “protecting” you from getting sued in matters concerning who you chose to date or marry… In matters concerning what line of work you chose… What you eat and drink… What you read… What you think… Therefore, Government Almighty should be able to boss you around on ALL of these matters, and more! The only limits are the imaginations and power-lusts of politicians!
Oh, look at Shillsy scramble to change the subject and lie about protections while still ignoring the fact that the federal government used it to enact the biggest censorship and spying campaign on ordinary citizens in its entire history. Website owners not getting sued means fuck all in the face of illegal massive state surveillance and censorship.
With such an enourmous violation occurring using the Good Samaritan clause as cover, you'd think a libertarian would say "How on earth did this happen, and how do we ensure such an awful thing doesn't happen again". But not Shillsy... because he's no libertarian.
Marxist Mammary-Necrophilia-Fuhrer is a REAL libertarian, because She Knows ALL Things, including 100% knowing FOR SURE that Government Almighty can moderate YOUR web site better than YOU can!!!
Relative to you, Stalin was libertarian. And your still dancing around America's worst ever mass surveillance and censorship scandal I see.
So name me ONE person in the USA (or Canada for that matter) who has an internet connection (or who can access one in general), who can NOT access ALL of the lies that they want to hear? ONE PERSON? Please name said person? WHERE is this "mass censorshit", liar?
Number of web sites in the world... https://siteefy.com/how-many-websites-are-there/ ... 1.3 BILLION... And HOW many of them does USA Government Almighty even TRY to micro-manage? Ye are a WHINING CRY-BABY BITCH!!!!
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There might even be a Reason contributor who agrees.
And quite a few posters.
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'...explicitly so, according to the Supreme Court..' No it's according to inalienable rights and our Constitution. Someone more clever than I has to come up with words that come THIS CLOSE to inciting violence against certain people who espouse certain things, but without getting themselves in deep do do.
Somehow chanting "Hang Mike Pence!" is totes OK, and NOT advocating uncontrolled, unrestrained political violence, according to members of a certain political tribe...
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/28/jan-6-hearing-trump-thought-pence-deserved-chants-to-hang-him-aide-says.html
Trump chief of staff said the president thought Pence ‘deserves’ chants of ‘hang Mike Pence’ on Jan. 6, ex-aide testifies
You have totally misquoted the actual testimony which does not tie Trump to actually saying Pence should be hung. Plus it's hearsay and inadmissible in a real Court room, because of it's inherent unreliability. Of course in a kangaroo 'proceeding' such as the 1/6 hearings, such things are permitted so useful idiots can quote and post about it. If you don't believe me, read your own link.
He knows. He's here to lie though.
Did I say that TRUMP chanted "Hang Mike Pence"? Are YOU denying that Trumpanzees gone apeshit chanted "Hang Mike Pence"? You just say "boys will be boys" to that? If BLM rioters chanted "Hang Trump", would you just say "boys will be boys" to that?
Try some introspection, and say "Hello there!" to your... TRIBALISM!!!
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Fuck off and die, TDS-addled spastic asshole.
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Incitement to violence: fortunately there are cases where such speech was ruled as protected by the First Amendment. Unfortunately there are also cases where such an ambiguous category was considered as not protected speech.
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And now, oh ye Faithful of the Republican Church, It Has Become Known Unto us, that it is also in His Power and Privilege Ass Well, to murder the USA Constitution in broad daylight. Thus He Has Spoken, and Thus Must It Be Done! Thou shalt Render Unto Trump, and simply REND the USA Constitution, and wipe thine wise asses with it! Do NOT render unto some moldering old scrap of bathroom tissue! Lest we be called fools, or worse!
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There, I think that’s a wrap! I’ve covered it ALL! You can take the rest of the day off.
(You’re welcome!)
Fuck off, Shillsy. Waddle back to your ActBlue forum.
Reason running cover for Democrats again.
Sad how you, mike, and Jeff all think this is clever.
Sullum had more articles on just trump selling nuclear secrets than they will this. And he isnt even in power.
“While misconceptions about free speech run rampant, it's always surprising when the person spouting falsehoods about what the First Amendment protects is someone with real political power.”
Change “surprising” to “frightening” and you’ve got it.
It’s not surprising at all if you’ve paid attention to their rhetoric, especially democrats, over the last 40 years. At least.
Offensive speech is the type of speech that needs protection.
This is not remotely comparable.
School libraries do not advertise themselves as places where any and all authors may share their writings with the student body. As such, freedom of speech is not implicated at all when the State decides what to stock in their libraries.
The Stop WOKE act does not silence employers in all contexts. it only regulates what they may teach their employees. Or does it violate freedom of speech if trucking companies could not tell their drivers they are okay to drive immediately after finishing a six pack of beer within fifteen minutes?
Like shopping centers kicking out kids for handing out flyers?
Students are not "employees". They're forcibly there by the iron first of the state.
And then they can go home and read any book they want to that their parents allow.
That's not "censorship"; that is a choice not to buy certain materials with government funds. There is no constitutional right to have CRT taught to you in school, or to have gay porn in the school library.
Corporations should also have a constitutional right to kick disfavored employees out of their companies, but with anti-discrimination laws, they don't.
Furthermore, the big social media companies receive billions in contracts and other government benefits and they are subject to government pressure; that means that their decisions are not those of private companies acting on their own.
Yes, social media companies should be prohibited from engaging in viewpoint discrimination, political discrimination, and similar conduct. They need to separate their common-carrier-like activities from their free speech activities.
"It's not censorship when Republicans do it"
So, Jeffy, what's your opinion on CP, and is it censorship to make it illegal?
Oh, you’re going with that old canard. I’ll bet you think it’s witty when you do that.
Did the Republicans do it Jeffy? Do you have an example to share?
He'll provide you an example of a local school district removing porn from a library and feel that comparable to the US government broad scale censoring citizens.
"I have no argument so I shall now scream into the void."
FIFY
When will elected officials be held accountable for violating their oaths of office swearing to support and defend the Constitution? Oh - silly me! - never, of course.
Republican lawmakers are increasingly calling for government censorship of library books and critical race theory
Cardin: Free speech is the right to speak as long as you say the right thing.
Camp: School choice is the right to choose what your kid learns in school as long as you choose correctly.
The fact that you were forced to attend public schools that failed so miserably to teach you critical thinking skills is a shame, Emma. Almost as much of a shame that you didn't learn them on your own.
This is rather transparently like the immigration revealed-preferences shtick. You aren't out there lecturing little girls about their white breast privileges and how they should have them removed. So, you're just calling the sane people you would normally consider to be peers 'Evul KKKonservutiv' boogeymen for a paycheck, sociopolitical points, or both. Not out of any sort of social, moral, or intellectual good.
"according to the Supreme Court"
Largely irrelevant, since the Supreme Court follows the election returns.
If the people (especially the important people) decides that hate (as they define it) should be punished, eventually the Supreme Court will go along. It just requires some new appointments.
Cardin is 79 years old (one year younger than Joe Biden) and has been in politics since 1967 (3 years before Biden began his political career). What are the chances he's as mentally enfeebled as Joe Biden? Cut the guy some slack, he's probably a drooling brain-damaged idiot who shits his diaper 3 times a day.
He’s an almost octogenarian democrat. Of course he’s a retard.
I bet he’s always been a Democrat too, but the parties totally switched!
If we could remove stupid speech from protection, we could jail most congress critters and the spastic asshole as a bonus!
it's always surprising when the person spouting falsehoods about what the First Amendment protects is someone with real political power
IT IS?????
I mean it has basically been the dem platform since 2016.
I've got news for you. The R's aren't far behind.
They are much further behind. Many of them campaign on open access to social media. Calling them common carriers.
Please explain how this is the same as Cardin, Warren, AOC, Biden, etc.
Please bring up Florida incorrectly while you’re at it.
An example.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/1914
Vs
https://democrats.org/who-we-are/what-we-do/disinfo/comparative-social-media-policy-analysis/
Dnc even wants to censor texts.
https://kprcradio.iheart.com/featured/walton-and-johnson/content/2021-07-13-dnc-wants-phone-companies-to-monitor-your-texts-for-vaccine-misinformation/
Open access? Lindsey Graham was on the Faulkner Focus a few weeks ago calling for the federal licensing of social media. I'd call that pretty egregious.
Graham is an outlier.
Graham is a GOPe piece of shit.
"Open access? Lindsey Graham was on the Faulkner Focus..."
Does cherry-picking pay a living wage?
No. Engineering does.
I gave an example that was close at hand. Many GOPers have called for regulation of social media.
So careful cherry picking? Goodie for you.
Regulating them as common carriers is fundamentally different than regulating them the way the Biden and Trump admins did in regards to Covid.
No one should take anything light loafered Lindsey says very seriously.
They reveal a troublingly common view on tech censorship—one that is increasingly present on both the left and right.
When conservatives censor it is obviously because they are morally superior to others.
tturd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a TDS-addled asshole, a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Not just conservatives, but everyone. Everyone is morally superior to you.
Conservatives, libertarians, socialists, traditionalists, communists, anarchists, liberals, monarchists, constitutionalists, populists, radicals, neoconservatives, theocrats, communitarians, progressives, individualists, authoritarians, patriarchalists, primitivismists, nationalists, globalists, humanists, theists, kritarchists, autocrats, everybody. All superior.
They can all look down on you with smug satisfaction because you're one of humanity's biggest pieces of shit.
Also, you make a list of censorship by conservatives in the last five years, and I'll do your team and we'll see which one is bigger and more egregious.
How SWAT teams descended on sleepy Poconos town to catch Libertarian Idaho murder suspect Bryan Kohberger who was 'obsessively vegan', 'looked drugged at school', and was cut off by friends after becoming aggressive
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ushome/index.html
Those Idaho libertarians are a strange lot.
They probably don’t fuck children. Like you do.
turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Uh oh.
A Reason article that roundly criticizes a Democrat but also takes a feeble swipe at a Republican. That means the commenters will denounce it as "leftist propaganda ".
This article doesn't include the word "Democrat" but does include the word "Republican."
Think about that one for a while.
Recap of this article: "A senator misunderstands the first amendment. This is just a symptom of the problem both sides exhibit. And here's an example of how it is exhibited on the right!" [Insert tortured example of government censorship by republicans here]
I did not notice it the first time I read it.
Looks like Jeff did. Hence his frantic post on “leftist propaganda" accusations when nobody was really doing that. Probably hoping to head it off early.
From the article... "...Sen. Ben Cardin (D–Md.) ..." "D" means "Democrat"!!! DDDDDipshits!!!!!
Reading comprehension is helpful. Not sure I'd put it in the same sentence as SQRLSY, so I'm not surprised, but it's worth mentioning.
I didn't say the article didn't inform us of the party of the offending senator. I said the article does not mention the word "democrat" but does include "republican."
Apart from the (sub) conscious recognition/association that comes with reading "republican" in an article about censorship, there are many ways that this *ahem* oversight would affect how people see the two parties. How would searches be affected by it? How likely would a cursory read of the article result in someone recognizing that the offending senator is a Democrat?
But thank you for your wisdom. It's always an honor to be yelled at by the local coot.
This comment didn’t age well.
Nazi, "The People's Law over us is WRONG!"
As-if that's something new from a Nazi.
I would like to point out that the 1st Amendment is FOR the government and no-one else. It's a LIMIT on government so anytime government wants to address "speech" they are violating the 1st amendment.
Maybe so but...when the government is involved in platforms such as twitter, Facebook etc using shills from the FBI, CIA and who know who else, then the government is indirectly attempting to stifle free speech.
Whether it's direct or indirect, it still constitutes an attempt by the government to attack and stifle free speech.
Yes Indeed; FBI and CIA as well as DHS are all 'government'.
Politicians and/or officers who violate the US Constitution (the people's law OVER their government) should be prosecuted for the treasonous crimes they commit otherwise they will take-over the USA as they literally already have done just more-so everyday.
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“Meet the world’s youngest transgender model, Noella McMaher: 10 years old. Part of a ‘queer family’ with non-binary parents Dee and Ray McMaher, the ultra-confident little boy already considers himself a trans activist.” I think he’s being abused.
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IMO, the totality of the dishonesty of the movement is summed up in the word "ultra-confident". Kids and even adults aren't ultra-confident. They're just confident and self-assured. Children who are too confident are precocious, arrogant, stubborn, strong-willed, rough-and-tumble, free-spirited, self-righteous, and cocky. The choice to forego actual words that display actual excesses of confidence that might carry a negative connotation indicates that the child isn't, in fact, confident. They're a fragile attention whore... like virtually every other model, LGBT or Q... and the use of the word 'ultra-confident' isn't a descriptor, it's a projection and a lie.
"We've got to go into the Capitol!" -Ray Epps
Free speech, or incitement to violence?
Is entering the Capitol violence?
It’s violence when Republicans do it.
Democrat Witch-Hunters...
"Republicans petitioning the Government for a redress of grievances
is Violence to 'our democracy' National Sozialist(Nazi)-Empire!"
Everyone knows that... It's all over the lefty-propaganda news.
The Capitol is the people's building.
However, Ray Epps inciting people to enter the Capitol building which then led to the murder of Ashli Babbet, could be cause as possible accessory to the death of that woman.
Term limits. Mandatory retirement age for elected officials. Mandatory cognitive testing for politicos over the age of 65.
They get more corrupt the longer they are in power. They decline as they age. They suffer dementia with age.
The mummy in the pic is a DEMOCRATIC Kleptocracy looter. Leaving that out only incites prohibitionist Grabbers-Of-Pussy to freak out in paranoid terror that Emma is spitefully kicking sand in their innocent, trusting, cherubic little tear-streaked masked faces.
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people to peaceably assemble, and to petition the government for redress of grievances.
It's time for those in Washington, in state governments and law enforcement to read these words once in a while.
Just consider his statements as aspirational. In his perfect world.
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