The War on Christmas Comes for the Drag Queens
Some conservatives toss “parents’ rights” out the window in a holiday culture war against kids at live shows.

Some conservative Scrooges are trying to destroy the Christmas spirit in Knoxville and St. Louis in a moral panic about children attending holiday-themed drag shows.
Mind you, these aren't minors who have just wandered into a raunchy performance. These are children who may be taken voluntarily by parents to a drag show. And while parents may be permitted to expose their children to all sorts of sex, violence, and nudity by bringing them to R-rated movies, getting too close to a dude in women's clothes is causing some, well, pearl-clutching.
In Tennessee, state Rep. Jason Zachary (R–Knoxville) tweeted out a selfie video Tuesday from his car explaining that he has contacted the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation (TBI) to try to do something about A Drag Queen Christmas, which is having its eighth annual performance at the Tennessee Theater in Knoxville on Thursday.
The description of the event warns that "parental discretion is advised." And it's been going on for eight years now because, well, drag shows are pretty popular these days. Nevertheless, we're in the middle of a moral panic about drag, and for a certain kind of conservative parents' rights are going right out the window. The most religious people in America say they'll decide what rights you have when it comes to raising your children.
People showed up at the Knox County Commission Monday to complain about the drag show (and defend it as well), even though it wasn't on the commission's agenda, even though it's a private performance protected from government censorship by the First Amendment, and even though nobody is forced to attend. According to WVLT, Knoxville's CBS affiliate, somebody brought a replica of a human spine to remind the council "what a spine looks like"—which is hilariously camp, and I hope a drag queen steals the bit.
In his tweet video, Zachary says that TBI Director David Rauch "engaged the theater directly" and "set clear expectations about what can and cannot be done in that show." He says local enforcement will be monitoring the show. He adds that he's fine with adults going but, "we do not want children to be subjected to something like this."
Gosh, whatever happened to parents deciding what's best for their own children? To be clear, it's none of Zachary's business if parents decide that their children are mature enough to enjoy a drag show, they voluntarily bring them there, and the theater allows them in. Again, the R-rated movie comes to mind. We trust parents to decide whether their children should be exposed to the sexual or violent content of these movies.
And many of these objectors know that they're trying to force their subjective opinions about drag onto resistant families, which is why there's a push to declare that drag shows are inherently sexually oriented and even pornographic or obscene and responsible for sexualizing children. In Texas, state Rep. Jared Patterson (R–Denton County) introduced a bill that would add any sort of drag performance to the list of "sexually oriented" businesses in the state. This would dump drag queens in with live nude performances, if a man so much as lip-synchs to "Son of a Preacher Man" while dressed as Dusty Springfield at a bar.
Meanwhile near St. Louis, state Sen. Bill Eigel (R–Weldon Springs) sent a letter to the mayor of nearby Chesterfield complaining about a local drag show taking place tonight (also titled A Drag Queen Christmas) and warning that letting minors in might violate laws protecting children against exposure to pornographic material.
The St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports that the venue hosting the show subsequently updated its website to state that the event is for adults over 18 due to "mature content." The newspaper also observes that Eigel has announced that he's considering a run for governor in 2024.
Let's be clear here: Drag isn't obscene, isn't inherently pornographic, and is protected speech under the First Amendment. A man performing in a drag should be treated by the law the same as a cis woman doing the exact same thing, meaning anything the law deems "sexual" should apply regardless of the sex of the person doing it. A woman in a revealing (but not explicit) outfit that's using raunchy language and lip-synching songs would not trigger any of this nonsense. The government should not have the authority to treat drag performances differently, and screaming "for the children" changes nothing.
The concept of "parents' rights" doesn't apply to just conservative families and their children. If you don't approve of drag, don't take your kids there. Leave everybody else alone.
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Again, having prepubscent kids stuffing dollar bills into a drag queen's lingerie probably was not the best look for what Shackford is defending.
He thinks grooming is wholesome.
"Let's be clear here: Drag isn't obscene, isn't inherently pornographic, and is protected speech under the First Amendment."
It's often obscene, occasionally pornographic even, and while protected by the 1st Amendment, so are R-rated movies, and we don't typically allow unaccompanied minors in to watch those, either. As long as we're being consistent.
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Reason used to have this writer who focused on immigration named Shikha Dalmia. Her articles were so awful that I thought there was a real chance that she was actually trying to promote opposition to immigration. I'm beginning to think Scott Shackford may be the same sort of thing, except that he's trying to promote hatred of gay people.
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From the first paragraph, the paper about Groomer Clown Story Hour is messed up. Deliberately bringing queer subversion out of the "gayborhood" bar night scene into classrooms in early childhood education. Reading kids into filth (a drag pun). All about how to groom *young* kids.
Notice how the connection with mainstream entertainment and education in grooming kids is pointed out visibly here. Disney makes groomer content so authority figures at the schools can back it up (and cast doubt in kids' minds about their parents and authority). Important point!
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lol, the agent provocateur is saying "What about the children?!?"
Let’s be clear. Shackford likes getting pegged.
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Shackford is the provocateur?
The guy who used the term "pearl-clutching" is saying "What about the children?"
That's really stupid. Even for you. What's next? Gonna say I was homeless? Retard.
It is so strange that "libertarians" pretend to support parents rights when it serves to attack conservatives, but when parents rights conflict with leftist desires their priority is "free speech" of government employees. The claim these government employees should be free to teach literally anything they want as long as its approved by the far left is a particularly odd position for a "libertarian".
Why sometimes I think they choose whatever standard supports their Team Blue preference ignoring whatever principles conflict with this goal.
Gosh, whatever happened to parents deciding what's best for their own children? Leave everybody else alone.
OMG! That's not "democracy"! [WE] mobs RULE!
The USA is a *CONSTITUTIONAL* Republic for just that reason. It's NOT and never has been a Power-Mad democratic dictatorship.
The claim these government employees should be free to teach literally anything they want as long as its approved by the far left is a particularly odd position for a “libertarian”.
You're talking about "Go Charter Schools! Yay private education! Parents should be able to send their kids to whatever school they want without permission from the government! Homeschooling is rad too! Let's have some competition! Markets are awesome!" Reason, right?
This would dump drag queens in with live nude performances, if a man so much as lip-synchs to "Son of a Preacher Man" while dressed as Dusty Springfield at a bar.
What if you sang "Wife of a Preacher Man" at a church social?
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They're actually not.
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Yes, men dressing up in womanface is the latest craze.
The article points up stuff typical of redneck Texas Trumpanzees. But libertarian impersonators have added copycat republicanism to their repertoire. A gang of angry Huns decorates the Libertarian Heathen page to illustrate how Republican/Alternative for Germany infiltration chooses makeup and wardrobe. Before Gary's 4M votes flipped 13 states to voters, The Kleptocracy struggled to ignore us. Now both gangs see the LP as the place to offload whackos who in their turn bring us bad press.
You’re talking about “Go Charter Schools! Yay private education! Parents should be able to send their kids to whatever school they want without permission from the government! Homeschooling is rad too! Let’s have some competition! Markets are awesome!” Reason, right?
Yes, and bar any dissenting students via the use of facial recognition technology. Asking too many questions about drag shows? Take it outside, MAGA-boy.
You’re talking about “Go Charter Schools! ...Reason, right?
Notice how sarc has to change what other people say in order to make his point, a tactic he goes apeshit over when he (often wrongly) claims others have done exactly this to him. Regardless the key logical failure is the implication that if these other things are true my point must be false. The implication itself is false, as many things can be true at the same time. Amusingly sarc also lectures others on this point when it suits him.
The fact that Reasoners often claim principles which conflict with their defense of government employees in other circumstances is actually my point. So sarc's belief that his discovery of the very conflict I pointed out proves I am wrong rather than that Reasoners violate their own supposed principles is pretty amusing. But once you realize every sarc conclusion is solely based on who speaks rather than what is said his illogic makes more sense. Expecting principled discussion from sarc is no more rational than expecting commentary on relativity from a toddler.
All I know is I'm glad my parents took me to plays that featured hot scantily clad dancers. I remember Willy Rodgers particularly well; my grandmother trying to hide my eyes from some of the more risque costumes, while my father gave me an elbow nudge in approval. Good times.
Saw a video the other day, don’t remember where. It was a tranny in a thong, turned around and bent over, and said it had a broken butthole. In front of a 9 year old.
+1 for sarc.
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And people accuse me of being a day drinker....
Because it’s true in your case.
The long venerated Christmas tradition of family drag shows is under attack. It all goes back to Dickens where obviously the Ghost of Christmas Present is coded as a Noel Tranvestite. Just what were Ignorance and Want doing under those robes anyway? Ha!
Yes, and bar any dissenting students via the use of facial recognition technology. Asking too many questions about drag shows? Take it outside, MAGA-boy.
Where do you get that?
"A woman in a revealing (but not explicit) outfit that's using raunchy language and lip-synching songs would not trigger any of this nonsense."
Because THAT show would likely feature a content warning, be listed as 18+, and kids wouldn't even be let in the door. But drag queens are exempt from all that. We've thrown standards and general decency out the window when it comes to anything involving a man pretending to be a woman.
Just shut up about it already, Scott. Normal people have had enough. The gays got everything they said they were after- full enjoyment of all the rights and privileges of every other citizen, as well as social acceptance and normalization. So go get married, buy a house, adopt some kids, get a dog and live your life like the rest of us. Insisting on the same standards for drag queens as any normal person would insist on for women performing the same kind of show is not oppression. Fuck off. You're not special.
Well, now that Hunter Biden's Penis is out in the open to the delight of conservatives the Culture War can go into full throttle.
Trannie dancing, gays kissing, porn, abortion, and lesbian twerking will be in the GOP cross-hairs for the next two years.
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Well, now that Hunter Biden’s Penis is out in the open to the delight of conservatives the Culture War can go into full throttle.
Trannie dancing, gays kissing, porn, abortion, and lesbian twerking will be in the GOP cross-hairs for the next two years.
You're just jealous that Hunter Biden gets more action than you do with your 2-inch penis.
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And people accuse me of being a day drinker….
I'm so old I remember last week when sarc stated he interpreted others lapsing into ad hominems as an admission he was right. It looks like we've found yet another standard sarc applies to others but not himself. It's interesting this is true for literally every standard he's ever applied. You'd think just by accident he would break this streak. But no, literally every standard he's ever asserted he has also broken. Every single one.
Y'all whining about drag queen shows do realize that Dame Edna and most Monty Python sketches meet the definition, right?
Yes, there are some drag shows that are overtly sexual and inappropriate for young kids. But many aren't. And even among the ones that are sexual - that's the parents' decision to make, not something appropriate for the legislature to ban.
I’m so old I
remember last week when sarc stated he interpreted others lapsing into ad hominems as an admission he was right. It looks like we’ve found yet another standard sarc applies to others but not himself. It’s interesting this is true for literally every standard he’s ever applied. You’d think just by accident he would break this streak. But no, literally every standard he’s ever asserted he has also broken. Every single one.used to have a liver.I don't mean it. Just that turnabout is fair play. I'm sure you're not a day drinker. You just live in a different time zone.
And while parents may be permitted to expose their children to all sorts of sex, violence, and nudity by bringing them to R-rated movies, getting too close to a dude in women's clothes is causing some, well, pearl-clutching.
You know all the stories from homosexuals and their advocates about how they were young and don't remember exactly when they realized they were attracted to people of whatever sex? Well, I remember the first time someone conflated cartoon/movies with reality, I was 5, and I knew it was stupid right then and there.
Why should anyone take a pedo defender like Scott seriously? If it's about being depraved he's all for it, well that and demanding the government protect him from the consequences of his actions. FOAD you proggy propagandist.
A man performing in a drag should be treated by the law the same as a cis woman doing the exact same thing, meaning anything the law deems "sexual" should apply regardless of the sex of the person doing it.
And, as such, Clayton County was fully justified in shitcanning Bostock for soliciting for a softball league from the labor pool and on company time, right?
Get fucked with a rusty carving knife you disingenuous asshat.
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Reason is all in for grooming children.
Shackford just wants to stamp out out the cruel bigotry of pedohomophobia, clearly on the rise among far-right extremists who think kids shouldn’t be exposed to flamboyantly homosexual burlesque shows. Lewd acts on minors is sacrosanct LGBT culture, don’tcha know.
"Ignore the fact that I supported gay rights to the point that even *I* had to admit the movement was going too far and fucking over business owers. Then, ignore the fact that I went along with the whole "transgender bathroom panic" narrative and, even after it's been proven to have been directly involved in a couple of rapes and the associated coverups, failed to print any sort of correction shift or mea culpa. Then, after *that* ignore the fact that I went back to the "Don't Say Gay" narrative and defending drag queen story hour in full retard fashion. Setting all that trivial, irrelevant context aside, you can take my word for it that this drag queen Xmas show is just a show generally restricted to adults that evil conservatives are overreacting to." - Scott
No, Scott. Even if this one show were totally above aboard in excluding children and putting on a purely platonic or socially constructive prurient performance or whatever, you've consistently proven yourself among the worst possible judges of actions, facts, and character on both sides.
"The War on Christmas Comes for the Drag Queens
Some conservatives toss “parents’ rights” out the window in a holiday culture war against kids at live shows."
If this was something like kabuki, Noh, a pantomime dame like Widow Twankey, or something like Dame Edna, Mrs. Featherbottom, Lady Bunny, Mrs. Doubtfire, Uncle Miltie, etc., Scott would have a point.
But these are pseudo-strip shows with men making provocative poses in sexualized outfits.
Scott knows this. Scott knows it's pedophiliac to have children deliberately exposed to it. Scott knows he's lying about the experience. Scott doesn't care.
>>A man performing in a drag should be treated by the law the same as a cis woman doing the exact same thing
absolutely zero of all the strippers I've partied with had fever dreams of dancing in front of fourth graders. zero.
@Cronut
Because THAT show would likely feature a content warning, be listed as 18+, and kids wouldn’t even be let in the door. But drag queens are exempt from all that.
The funny thing is, these people couldn't be more obviously playing retarded about this. They can't be unaware of multitudinous State, County, and Municipal layer cakes against nude or sexually explicit non-nude performances... and minors... and alcohol and men and women. Unaware that there are places where 18 yr. olds are allowed in until 9:00, then they kick everyone under the age of 21 out. Places where women and men can be topless equally unless alcohol is served, and then the women have to put their tops on. Places like the above right down the road from places where no one can be completely nude with or without alcohol and no children are allowed and people were required to stay 6 ft. apart even before COVID.
Further, their play retardation couldn't more transparent as to their "Whaddya mean grown men can't dance in front of the kids in a g-string?" motivations. Like a gunman walking into a school or a library and acting like "Whaddya mean I can't teach these kids to shoot?" Even if I were OK with the sexualization, they're the worst kind of fucking dumbasses.
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1st: gotta love how you put parental rights in square quotes, like they aren’t a fucking thing.
@Rossami: if it was just some dude in a dress, like Eddie Izzard or a Monty Python skit, and we were talking about middle school/high schoolers, there’d be a helluva lot less hullaballoo.
How anyone with a functioning brain cell still thinks the Reich-wing supports "freedom" is beyond me.
sarcasmic
I’m so old I used to have a liver.
Again he deflects because he can't effectively respond to the substance. But he can't let it go either because doing so would be an admission his worldview is false. This is the dilemma unprincipled hacks repeatedly talk themselves into.
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It’s happening, and it’s a good thing.
The only “it’s happening” I recall the two sides in the culture war having baby dispute about was whether kids were stuffing bills in trans performer’s g-string. Was there some other instance of progressives denying anything about the content or format of the drag shows that they have been taking their kids to?
And the whole g-string and bills controversy was in regard to a different drag show not being discussed in this blog post.
Yes, and bar any dissenting students via the use of facial recognition technology. Asking too many questions about drag shows? Take it outside, MAGA-boy.
Can’t you see that we conservative are the victims here?! And as the victims we are justified in exaggerating how much we are victimized by treating persecution scenarios that haven’t actually happened as if they have!
Buttplug, to be fair conservatives are more concerned about what Hunter Biden’s laptop possibly says about Joe Biden and his family being on the take. It is dismissive of their concerns to act as if they have only shown interest in Hunter’s penis. And Hunter’s penis has zero to do with drag shows.
As weird as it is, nobody goes to a drag show unknowingly. If you can go to a burlesque show with your kids (which I wouldn't allow), then you can go to a drag show with your kids (which I also wouldn't allow). The point being, I and my husband will be the sole arbitrator of what my kids are allowed to go to see. Government busybodies can go kick rocks.
At some point you have to ask why drag queens and progressives are so fixated on children.
No, Mike, conservatives are rat-fucking again.
They are inventing a nontroversey out of nothing. Like Benghazi. There is ZERO evidence of pay to play on the data on the supposed laptop. Nothing.
Financial transactions are easy to trace. They don't have one to trace though.
I'm actually kinda impressed at the hookers, naked sliding into the pool and stuff. That doesn't really bother me much, corruption at the highest levels of government including the current POTUS does.
I remember Willy Rodgers particularly well; my grandmother trying to hide my eyes from some of the more risque costumes, while my father gave me an elbow nudge in approval. Good times.
Now your family would take you to see Lizzo and your father would be trying to hide your eyes... to keep you from going blind.
So parents now get to decide to take kids to strip clubs? Parents can let kids use fentanyl?
Still do not get why folks like Scott do not seem to get that nobody gives a damn about drag.
The involvement of CHILDREN, however, is the issue.
Perform for adults and nobody would give an iota of a damn.
We have drag brunches and shows downtown all the time here. My wife is interested in checking one out.
The ones I went to years ago would certainly be classified as adult entertainment. The jokes were crude, actions and language explicit, and each time there was intentional male genital exposure. Even tamed down dramatically, I don't see how it could be considered ok for kids. Likewise, I think Pride parades and events are inappropriate for children. The desire to expose kids to these things is grooming and the goal is to normalize deviant behaviour. While I'll say there are probably age-appropriate ways to expose kids of certain ages to this community, I can't say that drag shows are remotely appropriate for minors. It is really creepy that Shackford has such a boner for involving kids in this stuff.
According to Shackford's logic, parents should let their kids watch them have naked sex if they already take their kids to an "R rated movie with nudity." There's zero distinction between violence that occurs within certain context and something like a strip show.
Believe it or not, the government can protect kids from any number of things. That's why you don't see explicit material in network tv. I didn't learn about the holocaust or the rape of Nanking when I was in 4th grade. There are subjects and images that are arguably mature for very young kids.
Google drag shows and look at the images. Heck, just look at the photo in this article. Why do kids need to see this? It's ok if parents take them along, because they're deciding what the kids see? What would a libertarian wife say if her husband took her kids to a blackface show or some feet fetish performance?
Consenting adults can attends these to their heart's content. But I also have no issues with the government restricting access to very young children. And those who express outrage over drag shows and push legislation have 1A right to do so.
If you ask Shackford, if we say parents shouldn’t be allowed to have their children snort cocaine off a stripper’s buttcrack, it must be because prudish pearl-clutchers are ashamed of the human form and don’t want kids to be open to new experiences. If it’s “homophobic” to protect children’s innocence, then the social progressive activists have all but conceded that social conservatives were right about a homosexuality-pedophilia pipeline of sexual deviance. “MAP” is the sequence of letters on deck to be grafted onto the specially protected alphabet identity.
I read an article about a couple of librarians deciding that Drag Queen story hour was intended to be inclusive for "gay" families. WTF? Are "gay" families feeling left out because public institutions are neglecting their need for drag queening. I have a feeling in the future we'll be reading about the rise of "gay " patricides, being murdered in their sleep by their furious children.
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Seems I'm getting censored by Reason these days? If a parent took their kid to a strip club for a lap dance should that be legal? is that parental abuse? Reason has this obsession with trannie culture any adjacently MAP grooming. Keep censoring me Reason and I'm proving your point. No child should be sexually mutilated because they are groomed or having doubts about their gender. Get them mental therapy as gender dysphoria is denial of reality. As an adult you can deny reality all you want in whatever way you want but no child is transgender.
“The involvement of CHILDREN, however, is the issue.”
Where did Shackford discuss drag shows outside that context?
Yeah so I’m finished with making comments about Reason’s groomer bullshit.
“They are inventing a nontroversey out of nothing.”
I agree they have little evidence. Just the “big guy” email, purposely ambiguous in meaning and possibly planted, and one collaborating witness, admittedly a MAGA.
However, corruption still is what they are focused on and concerned about.
“Yeah so I’m finished with making comments about Reason’s groomer bullshit.”
Awesome!
“At some point you have to ask why drag queens and progressives are so fixated on children.”
Easy to answer. There’s a social conservative vs. progressive culture war going on. Progressives will do more of anything that gets a ride out of conservatives and earns them anti-conservative bonafides.
It’s basic judo/aikido principles: two opponents locked in escalating conflict because neither will bend or be flexible.
In other words, another area of life nobody cared about or paid much attention to has become a big partisan controversy solely because Red and Blue Teams argue over EVERYTHING.
Conservatives don't target kids with perversion as part of any partisan "war". The "both sides" comments are pure BS (I hope you see what I did there).
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Shackford is the provocateur?
That’s really stupid. Even for you. What’s next? Gonna say I was homeless? Retard.
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"In other words, another area of life nobody cared about or paid much attention to has become a big partisan controversy solely because Red and Blue Teams argue over EVERYTHING."
If it's NO BIG DEAL why make such a big deal out of it?
Team BLUE is telling us - 'Hey Listen guys, this isn't such a big deal, why not give us this one point to show good faith?'
But they are trying to steal a base here. IF it's not a big deal, why is it so important to them?
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We see a pretty much continuous increase in what I'd call "Troll Presence" in the Comments section of Reason. It, so far, has not been so common (but it does happen) that you see entire TROLL ARTICLES, but sure enough, just in time for the holidays, out from under his bridge comes Scott Shackleford in his weiney-waggling splendor.
The LGBTQIA+ community did away with it when they decided they had the right to talk to kids about explicit gay sexual issues without including parents. Or about issues of transsexuality or gender/body dismorphia/phoria. Or about transing them while at school by providing different clothing and calling them different names
All without --and sometimes in defiance of-- parental consent.
Scott, you don't believe in parents rights --you believe in whatever get you closer to those sexy, sexy children. Groomer.
Is Shackford really suggesting that a drag show, a seedy staple of gay culture, isn't a sexually charged, raunchy performance? Has he ever been to one?
I used to read reason daily. Now it's a joke.