It's Way Past Time To Release the Rest of the JFK Assassination Files
Joe Biden just declassified another batch, but the government is still keeping some under wraps.

Under the JFK Records Act of 1992, the government had until October 26, 2017, to declassify its files on the assassination of John F. Kennedy. But that law also gave the president the power to withhold documents on national security grounds, thus setting up what is now a recurring ritual where the White House releases some files while promising to take another look at the rest at a later date.
Yesterday, like Donald Trump before him, Joe Biden released some of those records. And—also like Donald Trump before him—he has kept some under lock and key. This should be unacceptable. As I said during an earlier round of this game, "You don't need to buy any of the conspiracy theories about John F. Kennedy's death to see that this is a historically significant event that still has several open questions around it….And you don't need to be personally interested in the topic to be appalled that the feds are still suppressing information about an incident that took place more than half a century ago."
The possible explanations being offered for the continued classifications range from Damn, I'll bet there's something really incriminating in there to Eh, they're probably waiting for a couple of old CIA guys to die. The best way to resolve the question is, of course, to release the data, but the national security state's attitude toward sunshine is roughly the same as Dracula's.
In this case, to quote MSNBC's Joe Scarborough, "It seems like they released all the records we needed to see—except the records we needed to see." He specifically cites some files related to the late CIA officer George Joannides, who came into contact with Lee Harvey Oswald a few months before the killing. I'm not in the habit of echoing Scarborough, but this is one of those issues that brings together all sorts of people: Kennedy conspiracy theorists, Kennedy conspiracy skeptics, Kennedy-era historians of all kinds, and in fact pretty much anyone who gives a damn about government transparency. It's been 59 years. Just release the files already.
Bonus listening: Paul Matzko, Landry Ayres, and I chat about Oliver Stone's movie JFK.
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Yes, of course, the worst thing ever to happen to Boomers. Not like a President had never been assassinated before (Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley).
"Not like a President had never been assassinated before (Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley)."
Of course we didn't have the CIA or the FBI or really much of a IC at all in those days. We also didn't have a 3 network propaganda team broadcast into every home in the country.
Your lot lost the war, and in 1963 it was less than 20 years earlier so everyone still recognised you for what you are. That has nothing to do with Kennedy.
Yes, you ,racists have managed to do a lot of damage. Fortunately the country’s tolerance for your kind is coming to an end. With a little luck, you will be executed for your treason.
Anything to distract from the COVID origins, I'm 100% for.
All the documents released were the ones found in Trump's safe at Mar-A-Lago. Enjoy. 🙂
>>withhold documents on national security grounds
ya the ones implicating Circus In Absentia & putting the lie to "democracy"
love the hot wheel btw
You sound like a right wing conspiracy theorist.
In fact, the right wing alt media has been saying the same thing.
Tucker Carlson had a segment last night indicating the CIA was involved in JFK's assassination.
Looks like corrupt CIA, FBI, DOJ and others still control the reigns of power in DC.
Here's a link
https://www.revolver.news/2022/12/bombshell-tucker-segment-did-cia-have-a-hand-in-murder-of-jfk-the-answer-is-yes/
You do realize that Tucker Carlson is just ridiculous to be ridiculous? Heck, you can see him trying not to laugh half the time.
Uh huh.
It's not going to happen, because the Deep State killed him. they dont want the normies to realize the extent of the rot.
Yes, because JFK was going to pull out all the troops he sent to Vietnam, and in a Second term, would pass all those Civil Rights laws he didn't give a shit about his first term. Shit, only reason those laws got passed was his murder, thanks alot Lee Harvey.
You are missing the point, apparently deliberately. This episode isn't about the Kennedy killing. It isn't about Trump and likely isn't about Biden. It is about a corrupt IC that, if anything, is engaged in far more criminal behavior today than it was in 1963. The last thing today's roaches want is for someone to get out a of box roach poison made 59 years ago.
The deep state doesn’t exist, and furthermore they’re our friend and would never be involved in the assassination of a progressive hero.
They could find a self photo of Lee Harvey firing the fatal shot (they had that kind of equipment in 1963, might have been what he had in his "Curtain Rods" bundle) and the Conspiracy nuts wouldn't believe it. It was only 59 years ago, maintaining confidential informants confidentiality doesn't mean for 59 years, means until they're no longer a "Factor" (AKA "Dead") Sorry snowflakes, you don't always get what you want,
Frank "Lee Harvey, in the Depository, with a Mannlincher Carcano"
Now do jimmy hoffa
Thats easy, "6 feet Under" in the Meadowlands endzone
Lee Harvey could definitely be the shooter while acting according to deep state direction, regime simp.
I Know, I saw "JFK" too, lets see, Commie Marine shoots JFK for the CIA, or was it for Sammy G?? and everyone else gets away and keeps the fuck quiet for 60 years. At least you don't hear the idiotic "JFK's wounds altered on Air Force 1 during Flight back to DC" (See, in the video at Andrews AFB when they unload JFK's coffin, you can see a Helicopter on the other side, where the REAL coffin was unloaded)...Jeez, I know more of this bullshit than you,
Frank
"everyone else gets away and keeps the fuck quiet for 60 years."
Not quite. Howard Hunt's confession of involvement was in 2007.
Wow, seems that would have been quite the news story, missed it!
I missed it too, and only heard of it recently, 15 years after it was made. If you are curious, you can find it on the internet by searching for 'howard hunt confession.'
You saw it on AlGore's Interwebs??? It must be True!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It could be true. The CIA plotting to kill/overthrow leaders is well documented. Fidel Castro, Patrice Lumumba, Salvadore Allende.
Government plan from the get go was to keep the truth and collateral damage, or any means of finding it, hidden until all trails ran cold. In the meantime, no one ever went to jail because of some crackpot conspiracy theory.
It's almost like Deep State ubersecrecy about everything works well with conspiracy theories about everything.
Shame because I personally think Carlos Marcello is the guy that links every conspiracy theory and still fits Oswald as the lone gunman
I have it on good information the files they keep secret are the ones mentioning the plans to fake the moon landing and the plot to make people think the Earth is round.
Whole thing is BS "Rest of the JFK Assassination Files"??? How about the friggin Autopsy Photos??? and I mean the actual photos, not the "medical illustrations" that are supposedly "exact reproductions" of the actual photos. And Photos of the Brain, we're big kids now. Part of what changed my mind, 30 or so years ago, when all the docs who treated JFK were allowed to examine them at the Archives and realized all the "shot from the grassy knoll" was total BS.
Frank
"How about the friggin Autopsy Photos??? "
Which ones, the photos from Washington? It would also be interesting to see any photos taken in Dallas, taken in the hospital shortly after the shooting.
or even better, what if someone had filmed the actual assassination? from 90 feet away? you might even be able to see the wounds fractions of a second after impact, too bad nobody had a movie camera in Dealey Plaza!
"or even better, "
No, photos taken in Dallas taken by doctors of Kennedy's wounds would be more revealing, don't you think? Do you think rather only the Washington autopsy photos should be released?
Yeah, because doctors all carried cameras in 1963
Only in Washington.
The shot from the grassy knoll is clearly a diversion. Of the 122 eye/ear witnesses to the shooting:
27 said the shots came from the front ('the grassy knoll') but most of them do not agree that the knoll is very grassy.
54 said the shots came from behind
38 said the shots came from the school book depository
18 said the shots came from the school book depository but one story lower
22 said the shots came from a helicopter flying overhead
14 said the shots came from a hot air balloon flying overhead
12 said there were no shots but there was a bomb that was dropped from above
9 said it wasn't a bomb it was a rocket propelled grenade from the bridge
39 said the murder was committed by Col Mustard with a sledgehammer in the kitchen.
28 initially said the shot came from underneath the car via a manhole. When the others were told that was an option, 64 agreed that the shots came from a manhole.
21 said the shots came from the exact spot inside the vehicle where Jackie was sitting
36 said the shots came from Gov Connolly's seat and then ricocheted off Kennedy back to Connolly.
41 said the shots came from the Elvis impersonator at the corner of Dealey Plaza.
7 are very suspicious about Dealey and wonder about his alibi.
112 are very suspicious about the other ear/eye witnesses and think they are inventing stories just to get attention.
91 admitted that they will tailor their eyewitness testimony for $50.
I was all of seven years old when JFK was assassinated and I still remember watching Oswald get murdered live in living black and white. A majority of people alive back then never bought the official story for better or worse. I've never subscribed to any particular alternative theory. It's more like the Epstein suicide story. Just doesn't pass the smell test.
You're right, people never hang themselves in jail.
When it's probably the most important inmate who was supposed to be on suicide precautions, it only happens when the powers that be want it to happen. Everything that had to go wrong went wrong.
"Suicide Precautions"??
so they have some dumbshit minimal wage "Corrections" Officer (don't want to insult minimal wage workers, "Corrections" Officers are people who can't hack normal minimal wage jobs, and chose voluntarily, to spend 2000 hrs a year in prison)
look in the cell every hour, and somehow they still let suicidal prisoners have implements they can hand themselves with. If done right (it's usually not) hanging can cause death within a minute, done wrong 15-20, still long enough to fit in during Cleetus's coffee/donut break
"look in the cell every hour, and somehow they still let suicidal prisoners have implements they can hand themselves with."
Whatever happened to your "release the friggin photos?" Simply releasing the security camera footage of the supposed suicide would put an end to all this unseemly speculation.
There isn't any, poor prisoner could hit himself over the head with the camera and hurt himself.
You seem pretty invested in all this.
BTW if you want to be taken seriously, get your terminology right, it's "Prisoner", "Inmates" are found in Asylums, surprised you don't know (or remember) that,
I read somewhere, years ago, that immediately after the assassination, it was theorized that Castro was behind it.
The CIA had a high level source in the Cuban government who somehow convinced the CIA that Castro was not involved.
Protecting this source was the reason given for the classification for some of these files.
It's doubtful that this Cuban source is still alive. I can't think of any other reason to keep these files classified. Other than the classified files make the CIA/FBI et. al. look bad. Even so, anyone who worked for the government back then is long retired if not long dead.
Declassify the files already.
We know who killed Kennedy. After all, it was you and me.
not me, I was 1 year old, although I do look suspiciously like one of those little kids on the sidewalk (did anyone question them??? funny how they were just allowed to walk away with their "Parents")
Hmm, OK, now with RFK I was 5, and living in Altadena, a mere 30 minutes away from the Ambassador Hotel (alot less traffic in 1968)
maybe I was involved......
Kennedy killed Kennedy. He shot himself from the grassy knoll.
"RFK" or "Teddy" hmm, both were supposedly in the DC area at the time of the Assassination,
Obviously, the unreleased records include Teddy's Hooters Bar Tab (probably get totally shitfaced on $10 in 1963) and RFK's calling a cab from DFW to pick up Teddy ....
Frank
The true story, the Mob, the CIA, Lady Bird, the anti-Castro Cubans, the pro-Castro Cubans, The Birchers, Madame Nhu, Joe DiMaggio, Janet Auchincloss, Marilyn Monroe's agent, J. Edgar, Hillary, and Old Lady Zapruder gathered in Dallas to give that SOB JFK his just desserts when goofy Oswald, cleaning his gun accidently blew him away.
You...co-wrote Illuminatus!?
Bullshit! The Kiwanis did it!
Who had the most to gain, motive, opportunity????
No, not LBJ, but his mortal enemy,
RFK,
alternatively I've heard it was an ingenious plot by JFK to get away from that annoying Jackie, and he lived out his life Howard Hughes style (maybe "Hughes" was JFK)
just as ridiculous as all of the other "Conspiracies"
The mafia had the most to gain - and RFK (as Attorney General) was the one they really wanted to get rid of. The New Orleans mafia - under Carlos Marcello - was operationally independent of other mafia and had a seriously personal grudge against the Kennedys. He had been deported and in fact was on trial the day JFK was killed for 'conspiracy to obstruct the US government in exercising its right to deport him'. He was acquitted. Marcello didn't hide either his hatred for the Kennedys or his desire to have them killed. He was like many commenters here.
A ton of interesting characters were on Marcello's payroll. Hale Boggs (Warren Commission); the 1963 FBI agent in charge of New Orleans office (WC investigation in New Orleans which concluded that Marcello was a tomato salesman not a Mafioso); Jim Garrison New Orleans prosecutor who created his legal carnival when Marcello punched the later FBI office head (new and therefore not on Marcello's payroll) in 1966; Dutch Murrett (Oswalds uncle who is the one who made the arrangements for LHO to go to Finland from where he defected to USSR); all the Dallas mafia (via Joseph Civello and incl cops) since Dallas was a 'branch office' of New Orleans mafia; Guy Bannister and David Ferrie (the 'targets' of Garrison's carnival) who were working for Marcello's lawyer during the 1963 anti-deportation trial. Marcello's mafia controlled the New Orleans ports - which is why oil companies, CIA, anti-Castro groups, pro-Castro groups, and everyone else had to work with Marcello if they wanted anything done in/on/around the Gulf of Mexico and up/down the Mississippi River.
The problem with the JFK conspiracy carnival is not that it is outlandish with no real evidence of anything. It's more like Murder on the Orient Express where one of the conspiracy theory narratives may well be correct but all the others are definitely part of an attempt to cover up everything and divert attention.
C'mon (Man!)
didn't you ever watch "The X-files" (apparently not)
it was the "Cigarette Smoking Man (AKA "Cancer Man")
see "Musings of a Cigarette Smoking Man" (Season 4, Episode 7)
and he's involved in killing MLK Jr. too, SPOILER ALERT!!!!!
Frank " the truth is out, there"
Who do you think Cigarette Smoking Man got his smokes from?
You got me, Davie Ferrie, it's right there in "JFK"
my bad,
Frank
IMO, the cover-up of knowledge of a conspiracy looks from the outside very much like the cover-up of a conspiracy. In this case, I'm not sure that what Oswald did involved a conspiracy, but I am damned sure that between the CIA, FBI and possibly even local cops they were tracking Oswald and trying to find what he was up to well before he shot JFK.
And then after they failed to stop him, they covered up their prior knowledge of him and that they fucked up. This certainly would explain the reluctance to release too many documents.
" CIA, FBI and possibly even local cops they were tracking Oswald "
If that's true they would also be tracking the people Oswald was in frequent contact with. (Unless they were government agents working for the same people tracking Oswald)
All the evidence points to a very sloppy cover-up, which is exactly what you'd expect from a cover-up after the fact rather than a conspiracy beforehand. Which is quite consistent with the theory that George Hickey accidentally blew JFK's brains out, which in turn is consistent with the theory that Oswald was trying to kill Connally, not Kennedy. A friend of mine believed on the basis of evidence entirely independent of James Reston's that Connally was the target. So the mission to kill Connally failed, but the objective to keep it quiet succeeded beyond anyone's desire. And for all I know, Connally may have gotten the message and changed his tune accordingly.
The maximum classification period for 99.9% of all secrets should be 20 years. Maybe involve consensus from all federal judges in cases exceeding 20 years.
When you allow something to be classified for 50+ years - that alone - creates an incentive for abuses and war crimes.
For example: Bush torturers knew that their war crimes probably wouldn’t be exposed before they retired. There was no “deterrent effect” to Bush’s torture lawyers, torture doctors or interrogators. All of then knew they would never have to face their victims.
Torturers knew they would get off Scott free, so they simply followed orders in violation of their Oath of Office, Hippocratic Oath (doctors) and state legal bars (attorneys).
If it were 20 years maximum for 99.9%, they wouldn’t have been so zealous in committing war crimes in violation of Ronald Reagan’s Torture Treaty.
"When you allow something to be classified for 50+ years – that alone – creates an incentive for abuses and war crimes. "
It's up there like copyright protections. It gives our bureaucrats and lawyers something to do. If everything was declassified (or lose their copyright) after 20 years, they'd have to start laying people off.
The only reason to keep it classified is a coverup. Oswald's murder and then the suicide of his murderer is just too ridiculous unless you assume a coverup of a larger conspiracy.
It's similar to the Covid origins. Too many things point to a lab origin and nothing points the other way. And then you have the massive coverup by the CCP which again, points to a lab origin.
Only the most gullible believe otherwise. It's like a coin landing on its edge multiple times in a row. That doesn't happen by chance.
These are good points, but to go against the heavy artillery of a coverup they need reinforcement. Ordinary high school trig does a good job of proving that when JFK's limo rounded the slow curve onto Elm the angle from the 6th floor was close to 45º downward. No such angle of a bullet could produce the wounds Parkland doctors recorded on standard medical diagram forms. But just such a trajectory could have put a round downward thru the former Navy Secretary from right upper back to left knee. Elm street is 40 ft wide and the Book Depository is 100 ft wide. I measured them myself. Google maps shows the layout.
Long overdue! Don't care what is in there.
We may have learned more from the Russian files, unless those are disinformation. I happen to think they are disinformation, because although I think Oswald shot Kennedy, I think his death was accidental: collateral damage in an attempted assassination of John Connally. The head shot was another accident, coming from SS agent George Hickey. And everybody is embarrassed about all this, including the Russians.
Roberta raises good points. Connally was the Navy Secretary who downgraded Oswald's discharge classification. But the book about the SS agent with the AR-15 omits the high-school math. Including the math introduces a windshield damage contradiction; both cars were on the 3º downslope of Elm St and a shot in that plane would likely damage the windshield, and why no pix? Two shooters follow from a) the Parkland Hospital medical assessments and b) the geometry of the terrain. This ignores the unnumbered shot that affected James Teague, and also Josiah Thompson's arguments that four shots were fired from 3 guns. Never forget that Arlen "Magic Bullet" Specter also "proved" Anita Hill was lying and that "Long Dong" Thomas should be confirmed to the Supreme Court in 1991, when Holy War Bush was ruining the economy.
"Josiah Thompson" Joey Ramone would have more legitimacy
They haven't finished writing the ending yet. It's a multi-generational effort.
I believe they are to be released after 75 years. We are just coming up on 60 years. I am sure they wanted everyone possibly involved and most alive to remember dead before they are released. You really have to wonder why? Did LBJ and the CIA kill Kennedy?
No
Good thing we have you to tell us all what’s what.
It is, isn't it?
Be careful what you ask for...
You really want to learn JFK had a naked photo of Lee Harvey in his Wallet???? (do POTUS's not carry Wallets?? there are photos of his Shirt, Tie, Suit Coat, where is the Wallet and its contents???? CONSPIRACY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LHO's CIA handler(s) might still be alive. Covering for a geriatric spook or not the Feds have no reason to be transparent. They will never come clean. Their schemes did not begin nor end with JFK. The curtain will never fall.
The entire Warren Report documendacity is now online at Gutenberg.org. Yet anyone conversant with high-school solid geometry can show that JFK was shot in the throat by a rifle in the same horizontal plane as the President's tie knot and the RR tracks. Connally was clearly shot from high up, probably the Book Depository. Trivial math and medical records thus prove there were at least two gunmen. Why this is so obfuscated is the larger question. Whodunnit would THEN be the next question to ask.
Be interesting to see the Autopsy photos, pretty sure everyone involved with then has passed "This Moral Coral"