House Republicans Seek To Shield Kids From Talk About Gender, Sexual Orientation
Plus: Liz Truss resigns, declining internet freedom, new fentanyl seizure fuels Halloween candy panic, and more...

A new proposal from congressional Republicans would define sexually-oriented material as "any topic involving gender identity, gender dysphoria, transgenderism, sexual orientation, or related subjects." The bill, introduced by Rep. Mike Johnson (R–La.) and co-sponsored by 33 Republican members of Congress, is called the "Stop the Sexualization of Children Act."
Its purpose is to stop schools, libraries, and other institutions from exposing children under 10 years old to those topics, as well as preventing discussions or depictions of other sexually-oriented themes. It would do so by allowing civil lawsuits from parents if federal funds were used to facilitate such discussions. It would also block federal funding for "any program, event, or literature" involving such topics, whether at a school, a museum, a library, or any other institution. And it would also ban all federal funds for institutions with more than one violation in a five-year period.
Discussions like these always get thorny for libertarians, because to condemn the bill may appear to be championing more federal spending. But if you set the funding issue aside here, we've still got a federal statute that would define any discussion of gender identity, gender dysphoria, and related topics as sexually-oriented material, and that alone seems to be worth challenging.
It's also possible to hold both a principled belief that the federal government should be spending less on something in general and that so long as the funding exists, it shouldn't be conditioned on conforming to a particular narrow viewpoint. (For instance, I think it's better for school programs to be funded more locally; I think it's wrong for Democrats to condition federal funding for schools on ridiculously expansive definitions of sexual misconduct and highly politicized definitions of biological sex, as it does under Title IX; and I think it's wrong for Republicans to try and condition certain sorts of school funding on avoiding any discussion of gender issues.)
It's also wrong (albeit typical) for lawmakers to try and sneak extremist proposals into regulations framed around less controversial plans. And with the Stop the Sexualization of Children Act, Johnson has cleverly lumped any mention of gender and sexual orientation in with things like exposing children under age 10 to "nude adults, individuals who are stripping, or lewd or lascivious dancing."
In much the same way that politicians keep lumping together laws targeting adult sex workers with measures (theoretically) meant to stop child sex trafficking, Johnson's framing here makes it hard for folks to oppose the bill without appearing to support the sexualization of children. (Fans of the measure are already framing it as a bill to stop kids from seeing stripping drag queens.) And it allows the bill's proponents to easily wave off criticism of the measure as perversion or radical sexual liberalism.
But the truly radical side here is the one that wants "any topic involving gender identity, gender dysphoria, transgenderism, sexual orientation, or related subjects" to be off limits for kids.
There are certainly inappropriate ways to discuss these issues with young people, but there are also age-appropriate ways to do so. And it's safe to assume such subjects may come up organically, without being a part of officially sanctioned curriculum.
Some kids will have gay or transgender parents or relatives. They may even have transgender classmates. And television, movies, and, pop culture are full of depictions of same-sex couples and discussions of gender identity. Kids will have questions about these things, and what are teachers, guidance counselors, and librarians supposed to do when they come up—simply say "we don't talk about that"?
Some parents and communities certainly wish any such discussions be avoided, or even any mention of these issues be done in a condemnatory way, but others may wish the subjects to be addressed more neutrally, or even in a positive way. The correct place for such debates to play out is at the local level, where parents and families directly affected may weigh in—not with some national directive that schools can't acknowledge to 9-year-olds that gay people exist.
Johnson's bill would open up schools, libraries, and other institutions to a bevy of lawsuits, since it creates a private right of action for parents "against a government official, government agency, or private entity" if a child under age 10 was "exposed to sexually-oriented material funded in part or in whole by Federal funds."
Again, there's something of a bait and switch going on here. Republicans can claim it's just about not funding certain activities. Meanwhile, it's inviting parents to sue if a grade school library that has received any money from the federal government includes any books with gay or trans characters.
The bottom line is that the "Stop the Sexualization of Children Act" is being promoted as a way to ensure federal money isn't funding nude drag queen shows for kids, or programs centered on sexually-oriented content for children. But it's actually broad enough to ban funds and allow lawsuits for a range of programs—like school libraries or age-appropriate sex education curriculum—that acknowledge sexual orientation or gender identity at all.
BREAKING NEWS
Liz Truss resigns as U.K. prime minister.
"I cannot deliver the mandate on which I was elected by the Conservative party.
"I have spoken to His Majesty the King to notify him that I am resigning as leader of the Conservative party."
Tory leadership contest to elect next PM will take place within the next week.
— Pippa Crerar (@PippaCrerar) October 20, 2022
Truss lasted just six weeks in the office. More on her brief tenure as prime minister here. More on the resignation here.
FREE MINDS
Global internet freedom is declining. Freedom House's annual report on internet freedom is out and "global internet freedom declined for the 12th consecutive year," the group says. "The sharpest downgrades were documented in Russia, Myanmar, Sudan, and Libya," but it's far from just these countries where things are bad. "In at least 53 countries, users faced legal repercussions for expressing themselves online, often leading to draconian prison terms."
See also:
• "Democracies are having a reckoning with mercenary spyware."
• "Iran's Internet Blackouts Are Part of a Global Menace."
FREE MARKETS
More Halloween candy/drug panic is being spurred by the discovery of fentanyl hidden in candy wrappers. As lawyer Cathy Gellis points out below, there's a big difference between people trying to smuggle drugs past authorities by disguising them as candy and people trying to disguise drugs as candy to be passed out to kids. But why let rational thought interrupt the moral panic?
https://twitter.com/CathyGellis/status/1582939358700613633
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— Billy Binion (@billybinion) October 19, 2022
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• "Three men imprisoned since the 1990s for a fatal New Orleans drive-by shooting were ordered freed on Wednesday, their convictions vacated by a judge after prosecutors cited the involvement of two [notoriously] corrupt police officers in their case," reports the Associated Press.
• A Texas woman carrying a nonviable pregnancy had to get sick with sepsis before doctors would perform an abortion.
• Section 230's fate belongs with Congress, not the Supreme Court, suggests Jeff Kosseff in Wired.
• The competing priorities facing cryptocurrency regulation.
• Newly revealed text messages to and from former Sen. Kelly Loeffler (R–Ga.) unveil more of the deliberations surrounding how to stop Joe Biden from being certified as president. The Atlanta Journal-Constitution has more.
• "The family of George Floyd plans to sue the rapper, formerly Kanye West, for falsely claiming Floyd was killed by fentanyl, not police brutality," notes Vulture. "Roxie Washington, the mother of Floyd's daughter, will file a $250 million suit against Ye for harassment, misappropriation, defamation, and infliction of emotional distress."
• New York magazine explores the diploma divide in American politics, with college-educated Americans much more likely to vote Democrat. "Professionals vote and donate at higher rates than blue-collar workers," notes writer Eric Levitz. "But college graduates also comprise a minority of the electorate — and an underrepresented minority at that. America's electoral institutions all give disproportionate influence to parts of the country with low levels of educational attainment. And this is especially true of the Senate. Therefore, if the coalitional trends of the past half-century continue unabated — and Democrats keep gaining college-educated votes at the expense of working-class ones — the party will find itself locked out of federal power."
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Its purpose is to stop schools, libraries, and other institutions from exposing children under 10 years old to those topics...
Then why would anyone become a public elementary school teacher, these days, apparently?
House Republicans Seek To Shield Kids From Talk About Gender, Sexual Orientation
Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that Republicans seek to help parents usurp the upbringing of their own children from unelected bureaucrats?
The media including the dispatch are all lying about the Youngtown bill that forces schools to use the names and pronouns parents choose. This allows parents to trans their kids, but not schools. Of course activists want schools to be the arbiters.
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Why should libertarians have trouble recognizing that laws are required when common sense isn’t common anymore?
Somewhere near the core of this argument is the fundamental principle of parent-child relationship. Why not just come out and say that you (1) support the primacy of parental rights or (2) feel that the village/nation/society comes before parents?
Parental control is part of the reason for the bill. But it also addresses an increasing and serious problem, which is that LGBT activist teachers are recruiting children to declare themselves trans and enabling them to receive hormones without their parents knowing about it — thus causing many of them to permanently lose the ability to reproduce. Teachers who do this deserve to lose their own sex parts even before they burn in hell.
Of course the courts should have long since abolished both DOE and DHHS, either before or after they became separate agencies. Education and the dole are simply not among Congress's powers enumerated in Article I, Section 8.
Disagree, if they wanted to do that they'd abolish the DoEd. Education should be a local issue. Some locals may want this crap and now they'd have some unelected bureaucrats saying what is and isn't permissible; someone has to define the terms. And my guess is the DoED will redefine the Rs bill in a way they never intended; see Title IX dear colleague letter.
It is the number one subject kids must learn. More important than math or reading for sure.
What about skin color?
That was the Current Thing like three Current Things ago.
No, it’s the most important thing
One skin color matters, the rest are all varying shades of white supremacy.
Black trans is way more important than white trans. But white trans is more important than black cis.
*Victimization pyramid subject to change without notice.
Keep pushing people, and eventually, they push back.
Um, do you mean Resist! or sedition?
Depends on who’s pushing.
ENB with the libertarian case for enabling pedophiles. Gotta say, this further confirms there is no progressive evil the writers for Reason won't fully endorse.
I remember back in the 1970s when my teacher and I had the discussion as to why my parents preferred cowgirl to missionary
I remember when that was an episode of South Park.
Kids under 10 don't have trans classmates. They have classmates with psycho activist parents
They wouldn't know they had "trans" classmates if those classmates were not pandered to.
Beat me to it. Dead giveaway that ENB has bought into the nonsense.
Citation needed for how exactly stopping kids from learning about these subjects at a young age would enable pedophiles. I think the bulk of the evidence is that, if anything, the opposite is true. If kids learn about what sex is and how it works at a fairly young age, they are more easily able to recognize pedophilic grooming for what it is and report it to their parents or the authorities.
There's a pretty big irony in that Republicans are selling legislation by claiming it protects kids from pedophiles, when it will do the literal opposite of that. It makes me wonder if the reason they keep calling Democrats "groomers" is projection.
“And television, movies, and, pop culture are full of depictions of same-sex couples and discussions of gender identity.”
Someone might be missing something here.
Nowhere in ENBs rant does it talk about parents teaching lessons of morality instead of the schools.
See my comment above.
Also, obviously, we could talk about the flavor of morality required in the government-provided schools.
None outside of the legal framework. Schools should not teach morality. Just the agreed to rules passed by society.
"Schools should not teach morality. Just the agreed to rules passed by society."
Written by an authoritarian idiot! If society says slavery and cannibalism are the rules, then them are that them thar rules, and, by Government Almighty, all must OBEY!!!
"Morality" in the form of the Golden Rule can be understood by a 1st grader, and should be taught! Morality is NOT rocket science, and it is NOT "everybody do your own thing"! Or "who are we to judge"?
For people smarter than high-school-dorp-out and authoritarian JesseBahnFuhrer, see Sam Harris, "The Moral Landscape" ... https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/143917122X/reasonmagazinea-20/
Cannibalism and Slavery violate someone else's life/liberty. Telling kids it's not okay to lie, cheat, steal, or kill (most societies agreed upon rules) is nowhere near the same thing.
I'm sorry your mother dropped you on your head so many times that you can't grasp that.
Authoritarian JesseBahnFuhrer is the one who does NOT understand these kinds of distinctions! Lecture authoritarians such as Der JesseBahnFuhrer about these things, NOT the REAL libertarians! Authoritarian JesseBahnFuhrer is the one who got dropped, not on its head, but on its GINORMOUS EGO!!!!
"Just the agreed to rules passed by society.” ... Thus Spake Authoritarian JesseBahnFuhrer! Do self-righteous idiots EVER acknowledge that the agreed-upon rules in the past have included witch-burning, slave-holding, and concentration camps for the "evil slant-eyed Japs"? Can you authoritarians EVER say, "sometimes society is flat-out WRONG"? Even that "Team R" can get it wrong? Try some HUMILITY sometime!
Humility is a MUCH underappreciated virtue! See this: https://www.military.com/daily-news/2019/12/27/army-has-introduced-new-leadership-value-heres-why-it-matters.html Even in a supposedly “proud” profession, wise leaders treasure humility!
"Cannibalism and Slavery violate someone else’s life/liberty. Telling kids it’s not okay to lie, cheat, steal, or kill (most societies agreed upon rules) is nowhere near the same thing."
Hey idiot! WHO said that Cannibalism and Slavery agree with the "Golden Rule"? The "Golden Rule" which I clearly advocated, to ANY reader with a BRAIN? Strawman much?
I see! So you’re saying that the Intergalactic Sub-Smegmonic Boogoidian-Strawmen-Hybrids have deployed booger-beams (Those unspeakable BASTARDS) and have hijacked your tinfoil hat! You have my sympathies, but no more… I have no good advice for you, sorry! Other victims of the Intergalactic Sub-Smegmonic Boogoidian-Strawmen-Hybrids that I have known? They all ended up on Skid Row, and I could NOT help them!
Hey, you're the fucktard that tried to make some kind of false dilema of having to support the rules of a society that made canibalism and slavery okay. I just pointed out that only a fucking choad would conflate what Jesse said with your moronic bullshit.
Read your history, moron, and you can see that YOUR kind of bullshit (and JesseBahnFuhrer's kind of bullshit) was the EXACT kind of shit that they said to people who DARED to question witch-burning, slave-holding, and concentration camps for Japanese-Americans!!! Look in the mirror, and SEE the authoritarian!!!!
You resent the hell out of the fact that many other people are flat-out, better, more honest people than you are, right? More “live and let live”, and WAAAY less authoritarian?
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/in-love-and-war/201706/why-some-people-resent-do-gooders
From the conclusion to the above…
These findings suggest that we don’t need to downplay personal triumphs to avoid negative social consequences, as long as we make it clear that we don’t look down on others as a result.
SQRLSY back here now… So, I do NOT want you to feel BAD about YOU being an authoritarian asshole, and me NOT being one! PLEASE feel GOOD about you being an evil, lying asshole! You do NOT need to push me (or other REAL lovers of personal liberty) down, so that you can feel better about being an asshole! EVERYONE ADORES you for being that asshole that you are, because, well, because you are YOU! FEEL that self-esteem, now!
Evidently she thinks Hollywood should have a say.
Movie stars know best. It is known.
It would do so by allowing civil lawsuits from parents if federal funds were used to facilitate such discussions.
All this energy to avoid passing school choice.
That's the wrong kind of choice.
Right. I agree with parents who want this shit to stop, but who are we kidding here?
1) This bill has zero chance of passing. It is political theater. DC GOP, ENB, and anyone else arguing about this bill are either intentional actors in that play, or dupes.
2) If this bill were likely to pass, it would be example number 100 that the GOP elites are about as interested in fixing cultural issues as Democrats are interested in fixing immigration. The GOP strategy here is to get a plantation of people they can call on to show up to the polls, and that means never making a proposal that actually addresses the problem.
i disagree. If the bill passes it shows that they actually DO care about cultural issues.
This bill is a reaction to a very real development that happened rapidly and caught a lot of parents and other normies by surprise.
And when all you have is the hammer of legislation ... well ecverythhing is a nail.
I agree that it is a reaction, but that doesn't make it a good reaction. Parents could go into a school and beat the shit out of a teacher teaching this. That would be a wrong reaction. Legislators could make it legal to beat teachers for teaching this shit. That would also be a wrong reaction.
I am all for reacting to this terrible teaching. That doesn't mean every reaction should be accepted.
For the first time in over 20 years, we have a significant number of parents coalescing around this issue. They don't need this legislation. They need school choice. They need transparency in schools. They need the ability to take their money elsewhere. And this reaction makes all of those "nails" less likely to be struck with the hammer.
It is the proper reaction. Schools should not be teaching anything that is a cultural issue in K-12. They need to revert back to the fundamentals and allow other subjects to remain in the domain of parents or community. Schools need to stop attempts at indoctrination on cultural issues.
Why even bother providing government education if not for propaganda?
It's a good moneymaker for unions that can't get a foothold elsewhere.
"It is the proper reaction."
Wait, come on. It's one thing to tolerate a reaction as better than nothing. I disagree here, because I think states can do this themselves, but I am open to this argument. But to call this the proper reaction is a stretch.
It is not "proper" to call discussion of Gender Identity "Sexually oriented material". It is definitionally wrong. You can object to the discussion of Gender Identity in school (and I do!), without stealing these bases. It is intellectually sloppy, and in addition UNDERMINES the people actually trying todeal with sexual content in schools.
The GOP critters may be on the right side of things, but they are not perfect. And at the DC level the best way to ensure that they become as bad as the Bush's and Romneys is to let them think that they can get away with sloppy work just because they are on the right team. Now is the time to criticize their approach when they are approaching the curb. Not afterwords when they've plunged off the cliff.
Good job Overt!
You've got common sense on this issue! WAAAAY too much tribalistic knee-jerk "anything goes, for MY team" out there, on issues like this!
(Let's burn the witches, so long as they are not MY witches on MY team!)
I don't believe it is the domain of government to ever push societal norms or structure on students. That is not their place. Government should be a response to society, not a shaper of society. And nowhere is society more malleable on a culture than in school.
There is a reason past authoritarian regimes have captured schooling to indoctrinate the next generation. IT happened under Mao, Germany, North Korea, etc.
To stop government from shaping society, it needs to not be allowed to influence the most malleable aspects of society.
Kids are taught teachers are authority figures, so they accept a lot of what they are told by these people. By allowing those figures to inject cultural and political idealism into courses, it effects future generations, allowing government to be the influencer instead of the influenced.
So I believe it is the proper action.
It is political theater. DC GOP, ENB, and anyone else arguing about this bill are either intentional actors in that play, or dupes.
Yes, ENB is a part of that. As is much of the house which regularly does this (on both sides) as a form of drama. It's kind of what the house does, but I wish Reason would have a little bit more pride rather than hold themselves to the standard we hold politicians.
and that means never making a proposal that actually addresses the problem.
I fear the solution is school choice, which I still stand by being the most important movement in popular politics now. I say I fear, because I think we're seeing a bit of a shift towards people once again being very, very fixated not just on what their children learn, but what on other's children learn. I hope we can push back against that tendency long enough to destroy the current public schooling regime.
To that end, I also worry about this federalization of things. Education is still very local, and to that end we've seen real and true advances made in public schooling at state and local levels. It's an unfortunate side-effect of everything being national now is that people are missing that a lot is happening at the state level that is quite good.
Though I'm biased, because on school choice Arizona (the greatest state in the nation, and in the world) has been fucking crushing it.
I totally agree. Gender-queer ideology is a problem, but it is not THE problem. THE problem is that agents of the state have a monopoly over our kids' education. That has to stop. This legislation is nothing more than whack-a-mole, and the GOP leaders should be using it to give parents the power to take their kids where they want.
Yeah, there is too much fixation on the bad idea of Gender Ideology. Which is a bad idea, but bad ideas are not new at all. We will never run out of them, and to some extent we probably need to allow for bad ideas in order to discover good ideas.
The point isn't to create a perfect system with no failures anywhere, it is to create a system that allows good ideas to spread by their own virtue, and to help minimize the pain of bad ideas.
The CDC is going to kick the home school movement into overdrive when they vote to put covid shots on the child vaccine schedule.
This is a fucking travesty. Fuck those assholes.
There is a video of Robert F Kennedy Jr explaining that if the Covid jabs are approved for children then pharma gets protection from damages .... but do you think i can find that now???
The search engines sure make that kind of thing hard. Now, I did get a lot of top search results about how RFKJ was fact checked etc. etc. interesting - just not what my search term was aiming for.
Federal dollars are being used to export drag shows to other countries.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/state-department-funding-drag-theater-performances-ecuador-promote-diversity-inclusion
Apparently drag shows are part of the national interest.
The grant to CEN is part of the State Department’s public diplomacy program, which seeks to "support the achievement of U.S. foreign policy goals and objectives, advance national interests, and enhance national security by informing and influencing foreign publics and by expanding and strengthening the relationship between the people and government of the United States and citizens of the rest of the world," the website states.
Yankee go home.
And take your bizarre virtue signaling with you.
It might be cheaper to put those woke word salad signs up along the border and outside all US facilities overseas.
Man, the Neo-Con impulses in the state department are getting a bit campy.
Three men imprisoned since the 1990s for a fatal New Orleans drive-by shooting were ordered freed on Wednesday, their convictions vacated by a judge after prosecutors cited the involvement of two [notoriously] corrupt police officers in their case," reports the Associated Press.
Are they innocent or not?
More importantly, what color was everyone’s skin?
The concept of "innocence" is white privilege.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
reasonable doubt
As a Koch / Reason left-libertarian, my pro-Biden commentary usually revolves around praising this fantastic economy. But I also totally support this proxy war he's waging against Russia.
"As long as it takes": National Security Council spokesman John Kirby vows continued support for Ukraine
"The U.S. has kicked in nearly $100 billion in aid to Ukraine ... But House GOP leader Kevin McCarthy on Tuesday reiterated criticism from Republicans regarding oversight on financial support for Ukraine, saying that the party won't write a 'blank check' should they take control of the House again, according to The Associated Press."
If there is even a slight chance that a GOP House would pump the brakes on Biden's proxy war with a nuclear power, every patriotic American must vote Democrat.
#LibertariansForProxyWars
#BlueWave2022
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Congressional Black Caucus chooses a white man over a black woman for an endorsement. Don't you dare call them a Democrat caucus.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/congressional-black-caucus-backs-white-man-even-though-his-opponent-is-a-black-woman
Skin color is the most important thing
Apparently not. Black conservatives are white supremacist.
They are supporting the party of slavery and jim crow.
Can I get an "Uncle Tom!"?
Walker got called House N**** the other day after a press conference.
Unity!
What about Jim Eagle?
Too hawkish
Affirmative action bites back.
Bros before hoes, I guess.
Liz Truss resigns as U.K. prime minister.
She was too libertarian for this world.
That was fast.
Her Turn was over.
This is what happens when a chick tries to do a man’s job.
Lady Thatcher on line two…
Global internet freedom is declining.
This is something only a fascist would lament.
Has this statement been fact checked?
Don't dare tie it to collusion between large market actors on the internet either.
Or emails from Fauci.
...there's a big difference between people trying to smuggle drugs past authorities by disguising them as candy and people trying to disguise drugs as candy to be passed out to kids.
The drug war runs on manufactured panic.
Re-fund the police!
Cdc officially adds covid boosters to vaccine schedule for children.
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/stacey-lennox/2022/10/19/breaking-cdc-advisory-committee-votes-unanimously-to-add-covid-19-vaccines-to-the-vaccines-for-children-list-childrens-schedule-n1638343
It's nice of them to remind us what kind of unaccountable authoritarian dickheads they are, so close to an election.
Yeah this should be the nail in the coffin of any argument that our government is rational and guided by actual science.
There is absolutely no reason for otherwise healthy children to be vaccinated *and boosted* annually. This is nuts. The boosters do not prevent infection or prevent transmission. And for healthy young males, evidence indicates that the vaccine presents more risk of harm than COVID.
This is an unholy combination of good old business cronyism and lefties turning a medical procedure into a weapon of culture war activism. And if you lean left and don't stand up to the idiots pushing this stuff, you are complicit.
Don't you know? Young males are the most deplorable Deplorable.
It really an awful thing, turning medical responses into a culture war. It destroys trust and credibility, it sews dissent and division, and all the other things culture wars do -- are meant to do.
That's probably the worst thing to do regarding health policy. These days, my image of the CDC includes rubber noses, giant shoes, and 12 people crammed into a tiny car. They can never be taken seriously, ever again.
Oh there is definitely a reason. Just not related to health.
There is absolutely no reason for otherwise healthy children to be vaccinated and boosted annually
The accounting departments at Pfizer, Moderna, et. all would beg to differ.
As would the legal team, because now the companies will get immunity from the effects, which are just starting to get admitted by the government. Last I saw 6 claims out of 54 had been approved, with roughly 70,000 waiting to be settled. Even though SOME of those 48 rejected claims were considered vaccine injuries in which the injury was not eligible for compensation, let's ignore them. Still, over 10% of claims are government admitting damage. Round it down to 10% and extrapolate and you're looking at roughly 7,000 people who will be getting paid from government because of an admitted vax injury.
And now they're going to try to mandate it for kids, who were never in any danger from covid to begin with.
During COVID, we saw police across the U.S. refuse to enforce laws they deemed unjust.
We did?
Well, you had to be not locked down and with access to un-censored media, but for sure it happened.
In Michigan, local police ignored Gov Whitmer. YES
I can swear to it. 🙂
Even the FBI got in on a kidnapping plot.
Likewise, in Illinois, local police and politicians, outside Chicago, Park Ridge, Evanston, and Oak Park (Blue Check Central), ignored Governor Commodius Maximus very blatantly.
My town revolted against the Nazi in Sacramento. The police refused to issue citations for stupid shit like masking violations early on, and when all the restaurants opened up after the French Laundry incident they just looked the other way.
One city council member tried to force the police to close the businesses that reopened when they refused (and also to enforce an outdoor mask mandate) and -- well, she resigned from the council not long after and no longer lives in this town. I'm surprised there weren't actual pitchforks and torches at the emergency council meeting she called. Everyone was on the side of the businesses and everyone supported the police ignoring Newsome's bullshit orders.
The county was also sending violation letters to restaurants for being open at the "wrong" time or some random masking violation. (My niece manages a place in the county and framed hers and hung it next to the bar.) The county sheriff refused to do anything about it and all of those health orders just got ignored.
Anecdotal, sure, but it did happen.
"Therefore, if the coalitional trends of the past half-century continue unabated — and Democrats keep gaining college-educated votes at the expense of working-class ones — the party will find itself locked out of federal power."
Wrong.
That's where the Koch / Reason open borders agenda will save Democrats — the Brown bodies we'll import from Mexico will be reliable Democratic voters regardless of education level. (So will their offspring, of course.)
#TurnTexasBlue
Democrats are doomed, pal. Everyone knows educated people are smart-alecky know-nothings.
Isn't it time for your daily DEI struggle session?
This is why they need to make sure everyone goes to college, no matter the cost.
Don't normally post breitbart, but they have images of text exchanges and statements from the Montana libertarian campaign trying to push voters to the Democrat candidate.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/10/19/montana-libertarian-democrat-candidates-coordinate-to-spoil-ryan-zinkes-campaign/
Must prevent mean tweets!
Conquest's laws strike in
“The behavior of any bureaucratic organization can best be understood by assuming that it is controlled by a secret cabal of its enemies.”
So now we have a good idea where sarc lives.
A new resolution in Congress would reassert the Food and Drug Administration's (FDA) authority to stop state bans on abortion pills.
The Libertarian Case Against Federalism
The reporter who disappeared after the DoJ showed up was working on an anti Biden book about Afghanistan.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/abc-news-reporter-writing-book-on-bidens-afghanistan-disaster-vanishes-after-being-raided-by-fbi-report
FBI
We call thugs like these the "secret police" in every other country in the world.
American Stasi.
Is Democracy! safer now?
interesting how now the FBI only has to claim someone has classified material and boom raids and people disapear and the media assumes the FBI is always telling the truth. If i wanted to swat someone i'd tell the FBI they have classified material about the Biden's, material about anyone else will be ignored
People disappear?
Cite?
For fucks sake. It is in the link on the original post you retarded fuck.
This was so fucking stupid I checked to see if it was Liarson
Emmy-award winning reporter hasn't been seen for 6 months since the FBI raided his apartment.
http://wondermark.com/1k62/
Cite! Cite! Orf!
Are you a goldfish? Seriously, do you have that little memory?
He's deliberately dishonest.
There's a few folks here like that and y'all can't help but engage them. I've been guilty of it too. He's attention starved and craves any attention at all, even if it's negative. Just ignore him and he'll give up and go away.
Mike Liarson is a squawking bird named Dee and should be treated as such.
...their convictions vacated by a judge after prosecutors cited the involvement of two [notoriously] corrupt police officers in their case...
Repercussions from tolerating bad cops. Any to the cops themselves?
Funny how they don't seem to care if the men were actually guilty or not, just pushing that pro-criminal narrative along by any means necessary.
Funny, the cops didn't care either.
Funny. But not ha ha funny.
Any to the cops themselves?
One is sitting on death row. Not much you can do to him.
I was told we need to sacrifice civil rights to be safe.
Or was it only some civil rights?
It's only the civil rights of some people.
Cal State system suspends teachers from school districts that don't teach CRT. Jeff claimed schools didn't teach CRT, so guess this policy doesn't do anything.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/restoring-america/equality-not-elitism/california-state-fullerton-student-teaching-school-district-crt
The amount of stuff that happens that Jeff and White Mike insist doesn't, is remarkable.
Either the real world is a complete mystery to them or they've been very frequently lying.
I get the impression that it's a little bit of both.
I suggest a lot of both.
Lying Jeffy lies a lot, but isn’t that bright. Dee is dumb as a box of rocks, but not very honest either.
"These are lost, drunken men who don't care where they are."
https://youtu.be/HzH8VXlXxNE
And in a link from that article…
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/restoring-america/patriotism-unity/fairfax-school-board-to-vote-truthful-education-resolution-crt
Wouldn't that mean all the teachers are suspended?
From tfa
the district was in conflict with the university's goal of forming "teacher candidates with pedagogical approaches rooted in diversity, equity, inclusion, social justice, race and gender theories, cultural linguistic studies, social emotional well-being, and tenets of Critical Race Theory."
So the university is explicitly training teachers to push the supposedly non-existent CRT ideology into the elementary school classroom. And it is so important to them they will not allow their students to teach in places that do not bend the knee.
Well, they've been explicitly training them in this stuff for decades, probably going back to when "Pedagogy of the Oppressed" started infiltrating Education College curriculums.
Child castration libertarian moment? Pubescent mastectomies libertarian moment?
So many opportunities for the leftarians to plant their flag and say to the alphabet crowd "We support perverts maiming and gaslighting children too! Come see what we're about".
Hey, the ultimate test for libertarians is supporting absolute liberty for the insane.
Insanity is white supremacy.
Either the state has control of your kids or you do.
A Texas woman carrying a nonviable pregnancy had to get sick with sepsis before doctors would perform an abortion.
She heard recently from the news that crossing state lines was illegal now, especially if a mother is driving.
This story is more about doctors and hospitals going to paranoid lengths to protect themselves from imaginary risks.
its either that or some people are purposely not performing their jobs to make a political point. it wouldn't be teh first time they put people at risk for political points
Hey, here’s an idea: don’t pass state laws that get the government involved in decisions about a woman’s reproductive system so that it can just be her and her doctor involved.
Is a baby involved?
Just a clump of cells.
So annoying. Like an illegal squatter.
No.
Holy cow, the first lucid comment I've read all day.
Mike sock identified.
Because I want politicians to stay out of my personal affairs , that makes me a sock ? Okay, millions of American women are socks.
The fact you think MIke posts are lucid makes you a sock. And especially claiming it is the only one.
But local officals, by fiat
, can force bars and restaurants to exclude prople unless they show proof of vaccination?
A lot of bad decisions were made during the pandemic, that is for sure. Why is this relevant to a discussion of woman's reproductive rights and abortion?
Because the same fucking idiots are making the decisions you fucking idiot.
I thought there were no vaccine mandates, Mike?
Cite?
https://reason.com/2022/10/14/another-analysis-suggests-mandatory-reporting-laws-may-be-doing-children-more-harm-than-good/?comments=true#comment-9746900
It was a joke about Mike always asking for cites.
Yes I know.
…. woman’s reproductive system….
Women? Really? The trendy term is “uterus owners”.
Now do every other body part
Women are free to make whatever decisions about their reproductive systems they like. The anti abortion laws are laws regulating medical procedures, something states do so the time.
A) The whole story is just a rehash of an essay she wrote for some activist rag. There's no corroboration by any kind of medical professional that this is something that actually happens on the regular.
B) Medical procedures to clear a non-viable pregnancy that can't be saved are not abortions.
"procedures to clear a non-viable pregnancy that can’t be saved are not abortions."
That doesn't mean they won't be investigated, that charges won't be filed, or that there might be unjust convictions.
^ This is true. We've already determined that medical science isn't the determining factor anymore, it's political optics.
A dead fetus does not get aborted. Like, that partisover.
Also, they usually induce and deliver a nonviable child like this... Less invasive.
I know because I have been there personally. The way these people are seeking to make this a political statement is pretty monstrous. I cannot imagine a mother losing a baby like this and then making a national right to abortion issue of it. Losing your child is horrific... And the last thing we were thinking about as we held our son's lifeless body was how great it would be if everyone could abort their child on a whim.
Really sorry you went through that.
Yet you want to take even the diagnosis away from the doctor in the name of helping a woman in need of medical help?
Your problem is you think you know what "never take an innocent life" means, but you obviously don't.
Here for example is something about treating the terminally ill that I would estimate 1 in 100 knows -- and this is rock-ribbed pro-life Catholicism . Ready ?
"Catholic Teaching on Ordinary & Extraordinary Means
The natural law and the Fifth Commandment* requires that all ordinary means be used to preserve life, such as food, water, exercise, and medical care. Since the middle ages, however, Catholic theologians have recognized that human beings are not morally obligated to undergo every possible medical treatment to save their lives, even very ordinary ones.
Treatments that are unduly burdensome or sorrowful to a particular patient, such as amputation, or beyond the economic means of the person, or which only prolong the suffering of a dying person, become morally extraordinary for that person, even if they are otherwise medically ordinary or common. They may choose to use them, but they are not morally obliged to do so."
Can't honestly say I've met one pro-abort or euthanasia person in my entire life who knew this. But you pretend that this is simplicity itself -- that is your error, your attitude.
Is the username supposed to be ironic?
Apparently "unfunded tax cuts" proposed by Truss caused turmoil in Britain's financial markets.
Don't they know Republicans proved "deficits don't matter"?
And how's that Pluggo?
Planning to blame everything the Democratic Party controlled house enacted on the Rethuglicans again?
How many Democrats voted for Fatass Donnie's unfunded tax cuts that blew up the deficit BEFORE COVID?
I'm all FOR tax cuts combined with spending cuts myself but it is fiscally irresponsible to do what Fatass did - borrow to finance such.
You just can't appreciate the genius of Mr. Buttplug's #DefendBidenAtAllCosts Category A: change the subject.
Ah yes. Everyone would be content with some good ole homespun wisdom:
IF WE JUST REELECT FATASS THANGS WOULD BE GREAT BECAUSE HE GITS US.
I will say in recent days you've been neglecting #DefendBidenAtAllCosts Category C: appeal to esoteric data points.
Unfortunately you can't use the Warren Buffett Net Worth Index like you did from 2009 to 2016, because he's down $11 billion this year. Maybe you can prove this Biden economy is the strongest ever by giving a rig count update?
He did not have major inflation, possibility of World War III, and the possible ending of the petro-dollar, which will make our currency nigh worthless.
You can insult Trump all you want --- but people ignored Obama's warning to not underestimate Joe's ability to fuck shit up. Biden is, easily, the worst President in the last 150 years. Wilson can breathe a sigh of relief now.
Only idiots believe that bullshit.
Inflation is worldwide due to COVID reopening and sky-high demand/full employment.
IF inflation is monetary then the Fed and other central banks caused it. IF inflation was caused by government spending then Trump is to blame along with Biden.
The US Dollar is stronger than ever (see the DXY).
You spout bullshit.
Possible WW3 is all on Putin.
Kinda weird how Russia waited until Ukraine's puppet got in the WH, eh?
And look up the scenarios involving the end of the petrodollar. It is not pretty.
Oh look, Buttplug is pretending that the dollar isn't the world's reserve currency again and that printing unlimited dollars doesn't create global inflation.
So much of Buttplug's narrative requires his interlocuters ignorance of high school civics.
Yes, governments have first rights to our money.
It's not really our money. The Fed made it, and just lets us hold it sometimes.
There's a reason they're called bank "notes". Holding a dollar bill means you owe the Federal Reserve $1, and they're collecting interest on it.
You were banned for posting links to child pornography. You should turn yourself in for your crimes against children.
Two abortion stories = 🙂
Zero DeSantis stories = 🙁
There must be some negative news about our least favorite governor. Any updates on the KIDNAPPING and HUMAN TRAFFICKING charges that #Resistance Twitter legal experts assured me he'd face? Maybe a revised death toll from the hurricane that's completely his fault?
#LizCheney2024
Read the Washington Post. They have hourly DeSatan updates.
I heard he didn't eat an ice cream cone.
I have to admit that the more Reason run's hit pieces on DeSantis, the more likely I would be to vote for him on a Presidential ticket.
The weird thing, to me, is who among the younger generation of Democrats could possibly be an attractive Democrat candidate? Much ink is spilled over the likes of AoC, is that who we're being led to believe is a viable national candidate for a Democratic Presidential ticket?
The left has a notable lack of younger Democrats who could conceivably be attractive to most of the country, which is why we ended up with a geriatric Democrat this last time around. Trying to prop up Harris is going to be a fail on a pretty epic scale since not even the black community will be able to hold their nose on that one.
Well, they had Tulsi Gabbard until they ran her off......
Can't have a real anti-war politician out talking and stuff.
Section 230's fate belongs with Congress, not the Supreme Court...
The White House lose its pen and phone?
But the truly radical side here is the one that wants "any topic involving gender identity, gender dysphoria, transgenderism, sexual orientation, or related subjects" to be off limits for kids.
Many would argue teaching and encouraging dysphoria behind the backs of parents is the extreme position. And normalizing sexual concepts to kids is the extreme position.
Some kids will have gay or transgender parents or relatives. They may even have transgender classmates. And television, movies, and, pop culture are full of depictions of same-sex couples and discussions of gender identity. Kids will have questions about these things, and what are teachers, guidance counselors, and librarians supposed to do when they come up—simply say "we don't talk about that"?
Then their families can teach them about it.
SNOW. WHITE.
Checkmate bitch.
Damnit. Was hoping that Trump card was at the bottom of the deck.
Oh! I get it now! We need Title IX in colleges because we kept using Snow White as a sex ed instructional book in elementary schools. To fix the problem, we should continue to use Snow White, include some more explicit sexualization material, get more kids "raped", and expand Title IX. It all makes perfect sense now!
The foot in the door was accreditation of colleges. Just remember that
Here is how Academe magazine (where the brain dead speculate) apprises the NAS view:
"The NAS also proposes a radical step to destroy accreditation: “Remove the requirement for accreditation and require only that a college receive accreditation from a body that assesses financial stability.” In other words, as long as a “college” has money, it can call itself a college and scam public money even if it doesn’t bother to provide an education. This is an invitation to every scam artist who wants to put the word “University” after his name to receive automatic approval, and the NAS also demands an end to any restrictions on for-profit colleges."
UTTER SOUNDNESS TO ME? Am I stupid because I don't have a PhD?
simply say “we don’t talk about that”
This or "talk to your parents" is how schools have always handled discussions that are politically sensitive or not age-appropriate.
Look at how public schools have handled any discussion of religion, specifically Christianity, for the the past 50 years. I think they've gone too far in enforcing some of that (e.g., the coach who would pray by the sidelines after games) but it's not like there isn't precedent for a framework on how to avoid sensitive subjects.
But I guess asking progressives to live by the same rules they forced on conservatives is tyranny.
Democracy! is much safer (and better) if asymmetric.
Look at how public schools have handled any discussion of religion, specifically Christianity, for the the past 50 years.
When it comes to the religious sexualization of children, you can go back 175 yrs. to The Mormon Wars for pretty clear demonstrations of what's protected and how far.
Newly revealed text messages to and from former Sen. Kelly Loeffler (R–Ga.) unveil more of the deliberations surrounding how to stop Joe Biden from being certified as president.
They really should have just had a Martin Sheen equivalent do a video egging on electors.
Discussions like these always get thorny for libertarians
No it isn't; end all federal involvement in education. See that was easy.
That's crazy talk!
I agree but you assume that means no state involvement. WRONG.
So, for example, why do we call Harvard a non-profit? When "Harvard’s Endowment Soars to $53.2 Billion, Reports 33.6% Returns"
That is much larger than the GDP of many countries.
Harvard can do what ever it likes. I don't care how big their endowment gets and don't care if they get to be a non-profit - as long as everyone else gets equal treatment. So if you want to say all schools must be for profit fine, but if you want them punished for their past successes, no thanks.
They will either succeed by producing a high quality education or they will fail.
“They may even have transgender classmates.”
The one transgender kid our family knows started saying he identified as a girl at about eight years old. He was a very outspoken kid, too, so it would have been impossible for his teachers and the principal to not deal with it until he turned 10.
Side note: he’s now about 15, has changed his name two or three times, and says he now identifies as non-binary.
This reflects a subtle change in gender trends that a lot of conservatives haven’t picked up on, because, ultimately, they aren’t personally familiar with any gender fluid or trans people: it’s becoming much more common for kids to say they are non-binary or gender fluid than to identify as trans. If conservatives were truly concerned about these kids, and not just using the issue, they would acknowledge that this trend toward a more watered-down gender identity politics means fewer kids going to the extremes of taking hormone suppressors or seeking surgery.
The more the right pushes toward using government to suppress gender fluid and trans movements, the more the left pushes back with things like drag shows for kids. It takes two sides pushing against each other to keep escalating the stupid culture wars.
You do spout the most inane bullshit. You're the one that has been pretending that they're not doing gender reassignment surgery on kids as young as twelve. Not us.
I subscribe more to the theory that any uptick we're seeing is from social contagion than children having suppressed it more in the past. I'm sure there is some from the latter but the former is likely the bulk of it.
Kids who are highly impressionable and who might not like their developing bodies are of course going to gravitate to the ready made, fiercely protective club that fills their heads with what could be.
The will also do what gets them attention.
You're not allowed to call it social contagion, even though statics repeatedly show that, among groups of teen girls, when one of them in a social group decides she is trans or nonbinary, nearly every girl in that group has the same revelation within a few weeks. That's just pure coincidence, I'm sure. They probably just were inspired to be their true selves by their friend's stunning bravery. Teen girls are not at all influenced by their peers or eager to jump on social fads.
I mean who is going to pick "normal human" for their D&D character, when non-binary Tiefling warlock is available and also grants you significant clout bonuses among everyone in the world?
"Kids who are highly impressionable and who might not like their developing bodies are of course going to gravitate to the ready made, fiercely protective club that fills their heads with what could be."
Add to that that current pop culture is to put said individual on a pedestal, and praise them for how brave they are. There is a huge motivator being dangled in front of people who want to have a 'thing' and oh bonus, you get to go from being called an oppressive enemy of diversity, to the top of the fucking victim-celebration pyramid!
If you are a confused, angsty teen who might not be 100% happy with your body, and also told that white-cis-hetero people are basically everything wrong with the world, and all you have to do is go trans and all of a sudden you are a paragon of virtue...
And you get to shower with members of the opposite sex!
I think it’s probably simpler than the CRT bullshit.
I don’t know any trans children, but I would guess they were probably not socially well-adapted children before they caught gender dysphoria. Saying your trans probably keeps you from getting bullied for being a weirdo, AND makes you a celebrity.
You go from being a D&D weirdo who gets beat up every day to having 6 million TikTok followers overnight.
Oh, I agree with you that being gender fluid is a social trend. Especially among teenage girls.
I didn’t mean to give the impression that I think there have always been tons of kids with gender dysphoria, and we didn’t know about it because they were all repressed in the past. If I said something that implied I think that, I don’t.
So your argument is now schools should teach social trends.
Let's just demand what we don't get at all now: Be able to read, write and do 'rithmetic.
When I taught at the college level, 3 things were undeniable
1) A very sizable minority (majority?) could not do simple math
2) They generally do not read.
3) Never ask a teen to write ...because even he won't know what he meant if shown the writing a month late. They are like children, they think you can see into their mind and know what they intended to say.
I want a pure return to objective subjects in school. They can use free form essays of a student's choosing, but the focus on grammar/spelling/structure. I don't want teachers anywhere near teaching kids social mores or cultural debates.
Gender “trends”. Says it all.
This reflects a subtle change in gender trends that a lot of conservatives haven’t picked up on, because, ultimately, they aren’t personally familiar with any gender fluid or trans people
Cite? This behavior is talked about often as examples of why the belief system behind the movement is largely culturally driven dumbfuck.
Subtle change?
I would say the media screaming from the rooftops is far from subtle.
And, oh by the way, there are two genders; male and female, DNA say so.
I just like how they don't even pretend it is nature over nature anymore. And they don't even realize it.
Nature over nurture*
I don’t think you understood what I wrote.
Try not to be so inarticulate.
I don't think you understand what you write, just virtue signal.
Now substitute "evangelical christian" for "transgender".
In the Rat City, after a period of heightened sexuality and violence in which all manner of sexual diversions were commonplace the overcrowded rats became sexually apathetic and uninterested.
So effing what? If he identified as a cowboy, would you have shipped him off to a farm? What an eight year old identifies as is irrelevant. Nor is it the job of parents to cater to every whim of eight year olds.
The parents should have told him to knock it off and behave like a gender conforming boy and he would probably have developed into a normal, reasonable happy adult. Instead, they encouraged him to grow into a dysfunctional person who will be unhappy and unsatisfied for life, of not for any other reason than because he'll have a very hard time finding any kind of intimate partner.
In any case, that’s the parents choice. But schools and society certainly shouldn’t become complicit in such child abuse.
"Congratulations" to Klaus Schwab, Georgy Schwartz, Hansjorg Wyss, and all the rest of the NWO scumbags on destroying Liz Truss before she ever even had a chance to do anything.
Average normal humans: "Sir? Could we please have just a wee bit of freedom and independence sir??"
The NWO billionaire scumbag puppet masters: "NO!! NO FREEDOM FOR YOU, YOU LOWLY PEASANTS!! BOW DOWN AND SUBMIT TO THE 'GREAT RESET'!!! YOU WILL OWN NOTHING AND YOU WILL LIKE IT!!!!!
EAT THE BUGS, PEASANT!
BILDERBERGERS! SOROS! ROTHSCHILDS! ARGLE BARGLE! DERPBLOOPFUCK!
We share your rage Mikey.
Kid-fucker got here early today and doesn't have his talking points yet, so he has to resort to shouting gibberish.
Be fair. What's the point of being a butt plug if you can't aspire to serve uber-elite assholes?
How can you tell the difference between this and his normal posts? They're both gibberish anyway.
...college-educated Americans much more likely to vote Democrat.
Even engineers?
College educated american = unemployeed purple haired obese "woman" with $100,000 student loan debt and a 'studies' degree. Not a shining example of a good decision maker.
But shortly $80,000 or $90,000. Possibly less if they live in a two person household.
The only ones that live in multi-person household are the one rooming with another land whale and their 15 cats.
Not so much. Even though the NCEES has adopted DEI shit, I hear a lot of of complaints from the average PE over it.
They're all foreign.
Ouch.
Discussions like these always get thorny for libertarians, because to condemn the bill may appear to be championing more federal spending. But if you set the funding issue aside here, we've still got a federal statute that would define any discussion of gender identity, gender dysphoria, and related topics as sexually-oriented material, and that alone seems to be worth challenging.
Because sexualizing and grooming ten year old and younger children at public libraries and schools is the hill reason wants to die on. Way to live down to your worst critics.
Right. Sure. Because questioning a heavy-handed Federal law is the same as endorsing weekly drag shows for kids at every local library.
a federal statute that would define any discussion of gender identity, gender dysphoria, and related topics as sexually-oriented material, and that alone seems to be worth challenging.
For reason, it is. Did you not see that sentence or do you just not understand what it means?
Gender isn’t always about sex. It can be about such non-sexual things as what clothes you wear or what toys you like to play with.
Now, that can lead to a whole discussion of how the left’s current gender politics contradicts the left’s old feminist and gender politics. Somehow they have gone from saying things like boys can wear pink and play with dolls and still be a boy to saying a boy who likes pink and plays with dolls may really be a girl inside.
As I’ve written about, there is a trend among the left for kids to move away from identifying as trans to identifying as gender fluid or non-binary. I think this reflects the left resizing at some level that trans politics contradict their old feminist and gender politics.
Yes Mike. You've accepted your indoctrination. Good virtue signaling soldier.
If it’s driven by trends, it’s not real.
He knows someone with a trans kid. He is now the world's foremost expert.
Did you know his kids are interracial?
He is the most virtuous person I know.
"there is a trend among the left for kids to move away from identifying as trans to identifying as gender fluid or non-binary"
Kids want to have lore that makes them special and gives them social credit. This is not new.
They used to identify as goths, skaters, jocks, etc and dress/act in ways to get clout with the crowds they wanted to gain social credit.
Now the main currency is victimhood, and the quickest way to get credit (and esp those sweet Twitter likes!) is signing up for the LGBTQ victim club, and the easiest way to do that is be 'gender-fluid' or 'non-binary'. Those are low risk, low investment, easy ways, but only get you a little credit. Trans kids go out on more of a limb, but they get a much bigger reward for it. They are all but glorified all over the internet and in hollywood.
This has all the signs of social contagion.
Michael Brendon Dougherty over at NR has been describing non-binary as the "Omicron Variant of Gender Ideology." That is, more infections, but less deadly, evolution of the disease.
An interesting comment, might be something to it. I would be quite happy if that is so, if we can just stop most medical interventions and let the current form of teenage angst burn itself out.
That’s a clever way of saying it.
It’s just my personal observations from having lived in ultra-progressive Bay Area and knowing many people there still, but it does seem to be so that the trend is from kids talking about being trans to kids talking about being non-binary. Which means kids doing things like changing their name and requesting pronouns, but not doing anything as drastic as medical treatments.
It make sense, too. How many young people are going to commit to social trends to the point of surgery. Making up a new name for yourself when you hit adolescence is kind of fun; getting surgery is scary.
How is it heavy handed? Is not teaching Jesus is the son of God in schools heavy handed?
There is nothing "heavy handed" about a law prohibiting the use of federal funds for sexually grooming young children, in particular since that is a widespread occurrence right now.
Banning any discussion or expression of religion is fine but barring the path of child groomers and molesters is anathema to them. There is a principled defense of this but the writers of Reason only find that principle in service of one side of the culture wars, the side of the aggressor at that, so it's not a principle but a weapon to be selectively used against their enemies. They can prove me wrong by coming out against the CRA and for prayer in school since these too are "restrictions on individual freedom to discuss topics" but they won't because they are progressives pushing progressive narratives.
Something something separation of church and state that’s listed nowhere that matters.
They should just come out and flatly state they are against one set of imaginary beliefs but whole-fucking-hog in on another set of imaginary beliefs.
At least the religious sorts have some code of ethics, Donny.
The conscription of South Korean K-pop band BTS members into the country's military "is a reminder that mandatory 'service' is servitude...
I knew Welch was probably into K-pop.
Hashtag: guessing the obvious.
Really? Do Gillespie or Welch ever make any sports or music references that date after 1987?
Lol.
Back when Korean rock was good.
But the truly radical side here is the one that wants "any topic involving gender identity, gender dysphoria, transgenderism, sexual orientation, or related subjects" to be off limits for kids.
I guess we're redefining "truly radical" now, too?
Kids will have questions about these things, and what are teachers, guidance counselors, and librarians supposed to do when they come up—simply say "we don't talk about that"?
I mean, that's what they do and have always done with things like sex, religion, politics, and other topics that are not age-appropriate for kindergarteners. I don't understand how this is a novel and unworkable problem.
You have to put yourself in the shoes of the modern elite progressive: either no kids or, if parents, they use children for virtue signaling (and have nannies to take care of mundane stuff).
I grew up post 1960s and none of that was ever talked about to me by anyone. The default position for all of civilization is that sex and kids don't mix. But somehow that has become the "radical position"
ENB is just disgusting.
I grew up in the 1960s and there was all kinds of talk about feminism and whether girls had to conform to certain gender roles, and kids absolutely picked up on those discussions.
Of course, back then it was things like “why can’t girls wear pants? why can’t a girl be a doctor?” None of that seems controversial anymore, but it was back then.
Except that girls WERE wearing pants. And there WERE female doctors.
Your view of actual history is distorted by leftist propaganda.
Women were doing all those things back then. But most of them were still smart enough to figure out that if they wanted a man, they better adopt a more feminine persona.
Our gender roles and stereotypes aren't some oppressive artificial construct, they reflect biologically determined preferences of both men and women.
America's electoral institutions all give disproportionate influence to parts of the country with low levels of educational attainment. And this is especially true of the Senate. Therefore, if the coalitional trends of the past half-century continue unabated — and Democrats keep gaining college-educated votes at the expense of working-class ones — the party will find itself locked out of federal power."
Oh what a shame. Factio Democratica delenda est.
A tacit admission that Democrats don't give a single fuck about the proles.
In Maryland, foster parents are forbidden from using bunk beds.
The land of Mary likes to keep orphanages well stocked.
Can’t do business out of an empty wagon.
They can't use bunk beds, but they can castrate them. Priorities, Fist, priorities.
Nobody is castrating anyone under 18 in the US.
Be quiet.
You forgot to add your new "in the last 22 years" qualifier. Which is also wrong based on WPATH guidance and hospital websites. But keep relying on medical information being private.
This is a lie. First, many children have been chemically castrated.
But second lies because he can't possibly know this. Hospitals will not release details of surgeries. Both hospitals and Laursen are actively engaged in disinformation.
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During COVID, we saw police across the U.S. refuse to enforce laws they deemed unjust. Arresting people for voting when they were *told they could vote* should absolutely fall under that category. Just grotesque.
Shouldn't you look at the election officials and activists who wrongly told them they could vote?
Election fraud isn’t happening, and it’s a good thing.
I think there may be conflation of a couple of things here, one is prosecutors refusing to prosecute crimes they consider unjust. I think I'm on the record of my opinion on that one, but that's an aside.
This is cops arresting a man, being investigated for voter fraud. I'm actually not certain that if cops are told to go arrest someone they should have the ability to decline doing so. They have a lot of leeway on what to do in their day-to-day, but this was presumably a direct order.
Regardless, I hope Billy follows up on this, since the question really is will he be prosecuted for this. I'm hoping the answer is no.
Also, I had to read his tweet several times to parse it. That is a confusingly written tweet.
It seems designed to fit the narrative.
Black man arrested for trying to vote in conservative state is the real message depicted by the image. What is written is twisted on purpose.
Why shouldn't he be prosecuted for this? Like every voter, he signed a statement that he was eligible to vote, and he should be held to that, like every voter. "Some dude told me I could vote" doesn't cut it.
It's the old Costanza approach.
Was that wrong? I certainly wouldn't have done that if only you told me it was wrong.
If police or prosecutors don't want to enforce a law because they consider it unjust, they should resign. If they simply and selectively refuse to enforce it, they are abusing their power and undermining the rule of law.
Furthermore, what government officials tell you is usually nonbinding, whether it's tax advice or voting information. If you sign something, like when your verify that you are eligible to vote, it's your job to ensure you comply with the law.
"what are teachers, guidance counselors, and librarians supposed to do when they come up—simply say"
"ask your parents." Is that really so difficult?
For busybody groomers, it is.
Who knows what those parents believe!
That would work a lot/most of time.
I write about the one trans kid our family knows above. It wouldn’t work on his case:
https://reason.com/2022/10/20/house-republicans-seek-to-shield-kids-from-talk-about-gender-sexual-orientation/?comments=true#comment-9754400
Also, the kids’ mother (probably not surprising) was extremely progressive and activist, so no way she would passively accept a we-don’t-talk-about-gay-and-trans-at-school rule.
Tough shit for her.
Sounds like the kid can talk to his mother then. So it would work for xer.
Your lost was shit. Citing yourself in the same thread shows you have a weird sense of self worth.
Now do Christianity.
You have to provide him a cite on what Christianity is first.
Note the conflation of a diploma and being a professional. Note the assumption that blue collar is the opposite of both.
Glue protestors want the heating and lighting turned on overnight, probably illegally
Now that's what I call a sticky situation.
Screw 'em. They chose to glue themselves there, they can live with the consequences.
Holy crap what dumbasses.
People lacking the foresight of where they're going to take a shit in a couple hours trying to dictate global economic policy for the next 100 yrs.
"But they told us they would cater to our every need while we trespassed and acted like dumbasses."
Freezing to death because you glued yourself to a floor would be almost as funny as lightning yourself on fire.
Funnier, really, because they get the slow realization of how fucking stupid they were first and then get to wallow in your retardation as things gradually go dark.
OK that is fantastic.
Leave em there until they decide to unstick themselves. They can freeze in their piss and shit.
Environazi's are maybe the worst type of human
hilarious now let a bunch of hungry wild dogs in. then lets see how long they stay glued to the floor. maybe next time these so called scientist will plan ahead
Spiders. Big ones.
I like the way you think.
They can leave any time they want; any glue can be removed from skin easily. Give them a bottle of solvent and a razor blade.
Johnson's framing here makes it hard for folks to oppose the bill without appearing to support the sexualization of children.
Maybe, just maybe, that's because opponents support the sexualization of children. They want to tell kids who should be learning their spelling, grammar, addition and subtraction about how Chris likes taking it up the ass or that Rachel wants a sausage instead of melons. Plus, we know that the purpose behind why teachers do this is to indoctrinate children otherwise there'd be no point to do this.
Yes and no.
A lot of the time the left does try to indoctrinate children (as the right does, too) — but sometimes the topic just comes up.
Cite?
If you bring up who is fucking who, and how, in kindergarten, you’re probably being molested.
or getting groomed to be, soon
Just like opponents of the parental rights act (which basically boils down to not being an open racist) seem to very much support open racism and overturning the CRA....because they absolutely support open racism.
Something about believing who a person is when they show you. something something old black lady
"Its purpose is to stop schools, libraries, and other institutions from exposing children under 10 years old to those topics, as well as preventing discussions or depictions of other sexually-oriented themes"
Sounds pretty great. 10 yo / 4th grade should not involve these topics. If you are pushing to have them at this age group and under, you are a groomer, full stop.
"New York magazine explores the diploma divide in American politics, with college-educated Americans much more likely to vote Democrat."
Hey, which party is more likely to promote government policies that require DEI staff jobs and consulting gigs?
"• A Texas woman carrying a nonviable pregnancy had to get sick with sepsis before doctors would perform an abortion."
Of all the things that did not happen, this did not happen the most.
I love watching Reason laugh about the "rubes" buying into the irrational fear of fetanyl in candy (which is an idiotic fear) then buy into every single laughable abortion claim whole-heartedly.
When you are a hammer, every fetus skull is apparently a nail
Of all the things that did not happen, this did not happen the most.
It is probably the most dishonest phrasing of the facts possible while still making some semblance of sense.
What do you expect? This is yellow journalism.
"The family of George Floyd plans to sue the rapper, formerly Kanye West, for falsely claiming Floyd was killed by fentanyl, not police brutality," notes Vulture. "Roxie Washington, the mother of Floyd's daughter, will file a $250 million suit against Ye for harassment, misappropriation, defamation, and infliction of emotional distress.""
Interested to see how to prove damages about claims about a guy who died. West did not claim the family did one thing wrong.
Plus didn’t the autopsy say he was on fentanyl?
And like 5 other drugs. Whose interactions affect the heart. Fentanyl and meth as an example.
You can’t say such things about Saint George.
Of course you can't. He was about to turn his life around and was thinking of going to college.
He was a good boy.
this is only happening because of teh Allen Jones suit over SandyHook. I see a lot more of this happening to silence people.
I wonder what Reason's stance will be
OBL?
And it will also never happen to progressives. Alex Jones is held to a higher standard of truth telling than MSNBC.
“Alex Jones is held to a higher standard of truth telling than MSNBC.”
By some people. Others hold the two in opposite regard.
Some people being the courts dumbfuck.
Reasons stance is that regime friendly industry titans like Google deserve section 230 protection, but regime critics should have their lives destroyed by frivolous lawsuits.
They should be forced to prove that they are profiting off of the story surrounding his death, and that Kanye's version of the story adversely affects their ability to continue to do so in the future.
Then, they should be given the coroner's report.
See Ronbback's post immediately above. The Sandy Hook parents were going to make almost $1B off their kids' deaths if Alex Jones hadn't come along and defamed them.
The difference is, Alex Jones made false and / or unsupported statements.
So... you don't actually care if anyone's profiting off of somebody's death?
That's the assumption? How?
Ron didn't say that the Sandy Hook parents were profiting. You made that connection. They could just get damages for being defamed, not for loss of future earnings.
I'm saying that the Floyd family IS profiting. Because they are. Otherwise there are no damages, because they are not being defamed.
That’s the assumption? How?
It’s not an assumption. It’s literally what you stated. The crux of the issue isn’t whether the Sandy Hook families or the Floyd Family were making money, it’s whether what Alex Jones said was false or unsupported. If the Floyd Family can find an expert to say West
liedmade a false or unsupported statement, it’s their truth every bit as much as the people saying Alex Jonesliedmade a false or unsupported statement.Ron didn’t say that the Sandy Hook parents were profiting. You made that connection.
And you didn’t.
They could just get damages for being defamed, not for loss of future earnings.
And this is what the Floyd Family will tell themselves too. Why shouldn’t they any more or less than the Sandy Hook families?
When it comes to libel/defamation and claiming you’re profiting off someone’s death in the court of public opinion, it’s all a bit of stolen bases/Calvinball. You’re trying to say the rules are explicitly clear that it’s OK for one team to steal bases in a given situation but not another when it’s plainly obvious that the rules don’t say that, if they even exist at all.
"So… you don’t actually care if anyone’s profiting off of somebody’s death?"
"It’s not an assumption. It’s literally what you stated."
I literally stated that I don't care if anyone is profiting off of someone's death?
I literally stated that I don’t care if anyone is profiting off of someone’s death?
Yes, you literally stated that "*The* difference" as in "other differences don't exist" as in, "The only difference between the Floyd Family and the Sandy Hook families was Alex Jones false statements." as in "There is no difference between the Floyd family profiting off of death and the Sandy Hook families profiting off of death. 'The (only) difference in the two cases is the truth/veracity of Alex Jones' statements.'"
Maybe you meant 'the primary' or 'a critical', but you said "the"... and then deliberately overlooked a lot of other contributing bullshit that would rightly be noted as differences.
Making unsupported statements is generally legal and not actionable.
Only making deliberately false and defamatory statements is actionable.
Only making deliberately false and defamatory statements is actionable.
And, in the court of public opinion where the deliberately false statements are nominally immaterial profiting from death is profiting from death. Saying the deliberately false statements are more important than damages in one case and damages are more important than deliberately false statements in the other is, somewhat literally, trying to have your cake and eat it too.
I have no idea what you are going on about. I offered no opinion on either case, just made a statement of fact.
Will be ironic if this suit forces that information into the public eye......
Discussions like these always get thorny for libertarians, because to condemn the bill may appear to be championing more federal spending. But if you set the funding issue aside here, we’ve still got a federal statute that would define any discussion of gender identity, gender dysphoria, and related topics as sexually-oriented material, and that alone seems to be worth challenging.
Well, there’s also the kerfuffle where you call blocking and screening of offensive material for *everyone* on behalf of the government ‘the 1A of the internet’. Making the sum of all the positions look like you support spending explicitly on sexualizing children explicitly. If you combine it with the facts that you defend the latest-of-late term abortions right up to the point of murder, women who actually do murder their older children, and deviants who rape infirm old ladies and people might rightly get the impression that you’re a fucking ghoul.
How about "Go ask your parents about that, who will be in your life until you're at least 18 instead of relying on me, a teacher who will only be in your life for the length of a single school year and whose job is to teach you things you need to know about like how to read, write, basic math, etc."
But that's just crazy talk, I know. Some of those parents might have icky opinions like that Gender Dysphoria is a mental illness and should be treated as such instead of rushing off to start a kid on hormone pills and puberty blockers just because they like things normally associated with their opposite biological sex or whatever. And besides, "it takes a village" and "we have to get past this idea that our children are somehow ours" and all that, right?
"Some of those parents might have icky opinions like that Gender Dysphoria is a mental illness and should be treated as such "
Cant have independent free thinking parents getting in the way of the narrative the state wants them to be indoctrinated into. Best to cut that pesky part out
You are largely right, but the one sticky situation where the school cannot avoid the issue is when a kid under ten comes to school and requests to be called by a new name or to use certain pronouns. This forces the issue so that the teachers and administrators cannot simply remain neutral.
If school policy on such matters can be decided locally, it can be handled one way in liberal communities and another in conservative communities.
Making it a Federal issue feeds the stupid Red vs Blue Team culture war. It also means that Republicans may get their way with this bill, but when the pendulum swings the other way the Democrats will impose their views on everyone in the country with their own bill.
You tell them no and to talk to their parents.
That would work great, in a conservative area.
Cite?
Why only in a conservative area?
I do not see why it would not work anywhere.
Are progressive parents scared to discuss these topics with their children?
Also, remember, Florida's laughably falsely described bill fully permitted a teacher to discuss these topics with children...they just could not bring them up. The child had to do that.
Umm, not sure. That’s the generous interpretation of the law it’s fans like to repeat. It’s critics have a different interpretation.
To really be sure how that would go, we’d have to see that specific scenario tested with a court case.
The part where the school flatly says no to using the kid’s requested name or pronouns would not fly in liberal areas.
You may be correct that the part where the school says this is a topic to discuss with your parents could work in liberal areas.
Can’t say no to liberals. You heard it first here folks.
Why are you missing without parents involvement?
Names are not affected by this bill.
"Making it a Federal issue feeds the stupid Red vs Blue Team culture war. It also means that Republicans may get their way with this bill, but when the pendulum swings the other way the Democrats will impose their views on everyone in the country with their own bill."
They're already doing that. What would be the difference in the future?
You can only talk about the side defending itself from the already growing culture war. You need to ignore the initial aggressors.
This is the “they” justification that fuels the stupid Red vs Blue Team culture wars. “We have no choice but to escalate because of them!”
What’s the alternative? Submission?
How is wanting things to be done like they used to be done an "escalation" of anything?
It doesn't force the policy you half wit. The schools talks to the fucking parents. That's it.
What the fuck is wrong with you? There are lots of things kids can't do in schools.
I have a feeling if a kid wanted to be called "Child of Christ" instead of "Jack" the left would fully support the teacher's denial of calling him this while exploring Christianity so the class understands why he wants to be called this...but if he wants to be named "Jill" we have to teach the tiny kids about transgenderism.
Stop pushing your culture war shit in classrooms if you dont want other people's there.
When I was in kindergarten, I demanded that my teacher call me The King. It was a whole thing. They had to call an emergency school board meeting to decide how to handle it.
The correct answer should have been "shut the fuck up and sit down Brian"
How did that require a meeting?
How dare you contradict a child? Where have you been for the past 30 years of K-12 and higher ed?
Um, none of that really happened.
If I was in school now, I'd like to think that I would take the opportunity to troll my teachers. I'd demand to be called "Immaculate Potentate" and my preferred pronouns are "your highness" or "your lordship."
I knew a kid in high school named JoJo who used to sell me weed. One day one of his posse informed me that JoJo no longer responds to JoJo. He wanted to be called “messiah”.
I no longer bought weed from JoJo.
Did you buy it from messiah?
There is no issue. The school will continue to treat the kid according to his biological sex. If he doesn't like it, too bad. School doesn't exist to cater to the whims of eight year olds.
If teachers don’t have a right to pray in school, then I don’t understand why they have the right to groom children in school.
That's right. Teachers can groom children on their own time.
Exactly. That's what after-school clubs are for.
"Biden administration awards $2.8 billion in grants for electric vehicle battery manufacturing"
[...]
"The grants are being allocated through the Department of Energy with funds from the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law to companies in 12 states.
The funding will go toward the creation of battery-grade materials including lithium, graphite and nickel.
In all, the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law, the CHIPS and Science Act and the Inflation Reduction Act put over $135 billion toward electric vehicle manufacturing...'
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/biden-administration-awards-dollar28-billion-in-grants-for-electric-vehicle-battery-manufacturing/ar-AA139Xk2#:~:text=President%20Joe%20Biden%20announced%20%242.8%20billion%20in%20grants,Bipartisan%20Infrastructure%20Law%20to%20companies%20in%2012%20states.
If someone can "create" lithium, it would be money well-spent.
House Republicans Seek To Shield Kids From Talk About Gender, Sexual Orientation
Voters can rest assured Republicans have their priorities straight.
A Don't Say Tranny bill is exactly what this country needs.
turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a TDS-addled shitpile, a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Sevo, are you secretly Michael Savage?
You know, the San Fran wingnut AM radio talk DJ that homo'ed around with Allen Ginsberg and Lawrence Ferlinghetti in his closeted youth?
You can come out now.
You came out of your little closet when you posted those links and got yourself banned.
Nobody wants to hear about your depraved fantasies pedo.
I have always suspected that Savage is an elaborate put-on.
All those fucking jackass "conservative" talk radio con artists are.
Fat Rush Limbaugh (Praise Be Unto Him) was "Jeff Christie" in his first DJ gig in Pittsburgh and got arrested for soliciting male prostitutes.
These fucking idiot conservatives worship them too.
Dittoheads?
Like modern day Elmer Gantrys. All of them. They feed pablum to gullible Trump fans.
Eat shit and die, lying scumbag.
turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a miserable piece of TDS-addled shit, a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
Turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Even worse, if the GOP takes the House, Biden's ability to pour billions after billions into his proxy war with Russia MIGHT be slightly diminished. We cannot let that happen. We must give him the Democratic Congress he needs to continue funding Ukraine indefinitely.
Wrong. We need a GOP House to provide a tax cut for Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, Mark Zuckerberg types. They really need it given the bear market we are in.
Fuck off and die, lying pile of shit.
Why would the GOP help the Democrat base like that?
"Anti-grooming" bill would be appropriate.
You would of course hate that, pedo
We know what your priorities with them are. Thinking of which, aren't you late for your NAMBLA meeting?
It’s the most pressing issue!!!
Limiting what government employees can do in their official capacity is exactly what this country needs.
To be fair, simply eliminating government-funded public libraries and public schools altogether would be even better, but it’s a start.
"There are certainly inappropriate ways to discuss these issues with young people, but there are also age-appropriate ways to do so."
Yeah, by parents, not by federally-funded schools, museums, etc.
you would think "with an agent of the state" would be an immediate disqualifier for "who should be talking to very young children about sex" at a libertarian outfit
don't you trust the likes of Hair sniffing Joe Biden to talk to your kids about sex
He did just tell a couple little girls to stick to casual sex until they’re 30.
In Reason’s topsy-turvy libertarianism, the more freedom government employees have to act, the more free society is.
Of course, in actual libertarianism, it’s the exact opposite: the less freedom government employees have to act, the more free society is.
But it would be right at home for a progressive organization in the skinsuit of a libertarian one.
"Kamala Harris tells S.F. crowd the ‘window is going to shut on us’ without urgent climate action"
https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/Kamala-Harris-tells-S-F-crowd-the-window-is-17518385.php?cmpid=gsa-sfgate-result
She's trying to convince us that Patty is going to hold the football this time fur shur.
She's sorta right. Eventually people are going to realize the scam.
What she needs to do is glue herself to the floor.
Do we all have to die again?
Witness Me!
Let's see, a bill sponsored by 33 out of 212 House Republicans....that is never, ever going to make it to a floor vote...and if it is, won't be passed....and if it is, won't make it through the Senate....and if it does, will be vetoed by Spry Joe Biden.
Why is this a story at all, much less a lead on the roundup?
Child castration is the second-most important of all rights; only the right to dismember babies is more sacred.
Funny thing is, the same political demographic wants to end circumcision.
Especially for girrrrls!
Well, to be fair, the child is supposedly requesting the sex change, er, I mean gender-affirming surgery for themselves, whereas with circumcision, 1-2 day old babies have no say in the matter.
You make a good point.
The vast majority of LGBTQ+IABCDEFG parents have enough money where if they wanted to get their kid a book on the subject, they could order it from Amazon. What the progs probably want though is for these books to be prominently displayed in every small town library in Trumpland and be part of the curriculum starting in kindergarten.
And even if they did buy enough books for all the families in town, how are they supposed to make all the other parents read them to their kids?
This is the exact reason progs HATE homeschooling, or religious or private schools (except for the shi-shi ones they send their kids to).
Liz Truss resigns as U.K. prime minister.
A perfect opportunity for the new monarch to re-assert power!
Its purpose is to stop schools, libraries, and other institutions from exposing children under 10 years old to those topics, as well as preventing discussions or depictions of other sexually-oriented themes.</I.
Here's the thing. The movement brought this on itself. All you had to do was ask to be left alone but no, you had push it so far and hard that you ended up sexualiizing kindergartens in public school and providing blowjob how-to manuals to them.
This is a reaction to your excess.
Yeah, pretty much true for all progressive initiatives. When champions of racial and sexual equality told us they just want the same rights as everyone else, most of us agreed. Since they told us what they really want are special rights and privileges, well, they can fuck off.
he bottom line is that the "Stop the Sexualization of Children Act" is being promoted as a way to ensure federal money isn't funding nude drag queen shows for kids, or programs centered on sexually-oriented content for children. But it's actually broad enough to ban funds and allow lawsuits for a range of programs—like school libraries or age-appropriate sex education curriculum—that acknowledge sexual orientation or gender identity at all.
I have no problem with this. We're talking about public schools. Live by government control, die by government control.
>>Global internet freedom is declining.
thought you guys were for the censorship?
Section 230's fate belongs with Congress, not the Supreme Court, suggests Jeff Kosseff in Wired.
I continue to be astounded by the scholarly "elite" that are able to misinterpret the first 5 words of the First Amendment. At least 'shall not be infringed' comes at the end of the 2A and isn't internally explicit about who shall/shall not be infringing.
Hey, why bother becoming an elite if you can't tell everyone else what is right and true?
How in the world does abolishing a law violate the 1A?
You live in a fantasy world.
You're saying Congress can't violate the Constitution by repealing a law? And *I'm* the one living in a fantasy world?
Correct, that's what I'm saying. Your welcome to try to prove me wrong.
Your welcome to try to prove me wrong.
So, Congress repealing the 1A would be Constitutional?
First of all, while the 1A is “law”, it is not “a law” in the sense we are talking about here. It is the difference in status between an amendment (like the 1A) and ordinary federal law (like Section 230) that makes it logically impossible that repealing an ordinary federal law (like Section 230) would violate the Constitution.
Second, yes, Congress can repeal the 1A, and the Constitution lays out the process for doing that.
First of all, while the 1A is “law”, it is not “a law” in the sense we are talking about here.
So success. Whether they are "a law" or "the law" the distinction matters to you and there are laws Congress can't Constitutionally repeal.
Congress can repeal the 1A, and the Constitution lays out the process for doing that.
No, Congress cannot. They can propose an amendment, but they cannot repeal the 1A. Whether they propose the amendment or not, only the states can ratify the amendment. American history is replete with examples of this.
You're doing yourself and whatever cause you support a disservice by continuing to be this willfully stupid about the text and intent of the Constitution and a/the law.
Section 230 is an ordinary federal law, not a constitutional amendment. I am saying that repealing an ordinary federal law is never unconstitutional, so there are no valid conditional grounds on which to oppose a repeal of section 230.
You’re welcome to prove me wrong.
So far, you’re just producing red herrings.
And this is politely looking past the fact that there is no bill or motion in Congress to repeal S230, only modify or expand it. *And* that it's SCOTUS's explicit job to strike down unConstitutional laws and that they've already done so on the issue.
It really is like you're being willfully retarded about this for some reason...
I’m not “willfully looking past” anything. You implied that the liability exemptions of Section 230 were somehow related to the 1A. Factually, they are not. The 1A does not entitle you to protection from private lawsuits or liability for participating in someone else’s act of defamation or criminal acts.
Any of the proposed changes to Section 230 that I know of change nothing about that analysis, so whether Congress contemplates abolishing it or instead modifying it and (say) making refraining from political viewpoint discrimination a condition for Section 230 protections, is irrelevant: any such modifications are still consistent with the 1A.
It is you who, not me, who harbors the delusion that Section 230 somehow involves constitutional questions. Congress should modify Section 230 because it is bad law as written, not because it is “unconstitutional”.
I’m not “willfully looking past” anything.
I didn’t say you were willfully looking past anything. Let me be clear, you’re being willfully stupid about the historical context, processorial intent, and plain text interpretation of all of this. *I* out of politeness, was looking past the fact that there is not proposal to repeal S230 in Congress and S230’s fate, just like the rest of the CDA, and instead focusing on the *fact* that S230’s fate can and does, rightly, lie in SCOTUS’ hands.
It is you who, not me, who harbors the delusion that Section 230 somehow involves constitutional questions.
Sure. Me, SCOTUS, the ACLU, Wired, Trump, Pai, Zuckerberg, Hawley, Biden(‘s handlers)… we’re all just confused, one way or the other, on S230, the internet, and Congress’ role in regulating free speech and the peoples’ right to petition their government. Just go ahead and say, “Everyone else is confused about S230 and the CDA except me.”
Congress should modify Section 230 because it is bad law as written, not because it is “unconstitutional”.
Go on. Do tell how it’s not in SCOTUS’ purview to strike down laws that are unduly vague for being unconstitutional.
OK, it’s becoming clear that you people are not “confused”, you are liars. You are trying to misrepresent a rent seeking law favoring certain big corporations as a 1A issue.
Show me: where does Section 230, its repeal, or any seriously proposed changes create a law that “abridges the right to free speech, or of the press”? That is the only prohibition in the 1A.
"misinterpret"
LOL
Good one
"There are certainly inappropriate ways to discuss these issues with young people, but there are also age-appropriate ways to do so. And it's safe to assume such subjects may come up organically, without being a part of officially sanctioned curriculum."
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"Hey kids, guess what I am?
The purpose of the act is to constrain government action.
In particular, its purpose is to constrain government from exposing kids under 10 to sexual content.
Constraining government is a fundamental libertarian principle. There is nothing “problematic” or “conflicting” about this law from a libertarian point of view. To the contrary, libertarians should push for more laws restricting what government (i.e., government employees) can do, in any and all areas of society.
Roxie Washington, the mother of Floyd's daughter, will file a $250 million suit against Ye
I'm saying she's a gold digger.
she ain't messin' with no broke dinger.
FJB
18d
And the journalist class is completely uninterested why, in 2009, the number of school kids identifying as the opposite sex and being chemically castrated and having healthy breasts removed were nearly zero, and now it's gone through the roof. Maybe someone kept talking to them about it. And no one is interested in why this is almost exclusively an American and British phenomenon.
Brits are at least scaling back. Probably because they lack a libertarian website.
"Its purpose is to stop schools, libraries, and other institutions from exposing children under 10 years old to those topics, as well as preventing discussions or depictions of other sexually-oriented themes"
Yes. Good.
Children under 10 are not ready for this and it should be introduced by the family as necessary.
The fuck Reason, are we supporting the state raising kids now?
The gist of ENB's take was about the (lack of) wisdom of resorting to heavy-handed Federal law.
haha except in just about every other case besides this one.
"discussion of gender identity, gender dysphoria, and related topics as sexually-oriented material, and that alone seems to be worth challenging."
1. It's for under 10's.
2. All that is, literally, related to sex. That is according the the transgender and their activists.
"And it's safe to assume such subjects may come up organically, without being a part of officially sanctioned curriculum"
A 9 year old asks what your pee-pre looks like - the 'organic' response is to tell them that that is inappropriate or otherwise deflect them back to their parents.
It is not to sit down and let them examine you.
Clergy Sex Abuse: Mandatory reporting.
Reason: ...
Scouts Sex Abuse: Mandatory reporting.
Reason: ...
College Sports Sex Abuse: Mandatory reporting.
Reason: ...
Virtually every youth organization on Earth: Mandatory reporting.
Reason: ...
Public School Sex Abuse: Mandatory reporting.
Reason: Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Let's not be too hasty to judge public educators now. Kids sometimes say the darnedest things at the darnedest times and discussions come up organically. You can't hold the people in charge responsible for their own actions in such a situation.
What. The. Fuck?
This is something that I’ve been trying to wrap my head around for some time.
For the journalist class, the church was seen as a discrete, identifiable institution with a problem that needed addressing.
The Boy Scouts of America was seen as a discrete, identifiable institution with a problem that needed addressing.
The College sports industry was seen as a discrete, identifiable institution with a problem that needed addressing.
The Teacher’s Unions or School system is not a discrete, identifiable institution, whatever problems its having are the result of individual actors within this amorphous blob of individual actors, there’s no widespread problem, nothing to see here. And any group or individual which draw attention to the stuff teachers themselves are doing and saying publicly is a hate monger and doxxer.
That's because teachers are the propaganda arm of the progressive state; as a group or institution, they are automatically beyond reproach.
And conservatives are too stupid to realize what has happened to this profession so they play along.
"The correct place for such debates to play out is at the local level, where parents and families directly affected may weigh in—not with some national directive that schools can't acknowledge to 9-year-olds that gay people exist."
Probably should have thought about that before you started bringing in drag queens and letting children stuff bills in their g-strings while they stripped.
Like the RvW overturn - this is an own-goal. You gous did this to yourselves.
Probably should have thought about that before you started bringing in drag queens and letting children stuff bills in their g-strings while they stripped.
Probably should’ve thought about it back when NC told Charlotte, “No. Business owners get to decide who uses what bathroom.” But it was cool to run around like a bunch of chickens when the farmer comes in to collect the eggs and pretend farmer is the one who’s panicking.
“The correct place for such debates to play out is at the local level, where parents and families directly affected may weigh in
Right, that debate at the local level where FBI shows up on the doorsteps of parents and families directly affected who weighed in.
And it’s safe to assume such subjects may come up organically, without being a part of officially sanctioned curriculum.
No, it’s explicitly not safe to assume that. That’s what mandatory reporting means for The Clergy, The Scouts, etc., etc., etc. I don’t even 100% agree with the policies conceptually, but I abide them in practice motivationally.
I’m pretty sure you don’t understand what you’re saying in the least when you say it’s safe for anything sexual to come up organically between a non-parent adult and a child.
Reason’s stance on this issue is convincing me of the actuality of true evil. Imagine adopting Pastafarianism as your religion and then insisting that it means we teach grade schoolers that we had to encourage all the Jews to neuter themselves. Even if that means teaching Pastafarianism in school, voiding fundamental notions consent and agency, presumption of innocense, and abuse of power, rending the 1A and enacting online protections against speech that says we can’t/shouldn’t teach this to schoolchildren, invoking Science as a defense of Pastafarianism and neutering Jews… I mean, my God. WTF is wrong with you? Even as far as your advocacy of Pastafarianism goes, you're a malevolent evil.
"Grooming" actually is a term of art. And what is means is when adult introduces sexual ideas beyond the child's years as a way to get them used to the idea of having sex with the adult. So, no it doesn't organically come up. It comes up when a child is being groomed by a fucking pervert.
I know. I routinely sit through several programs mandated and overseen by the State that the Church and other youth programs require all volunteers to participate in. I'd be willing to bet that a majority of the people using the word 'grooming' specifically to identify the behavior in schools learned it as the result of such mandatory training. That's kinda my point; Reason's stance is very Torquemada/1984-esque in that they don't care about right or wrong or morals or abuse of power or science and objective outcomes or even how well you did on yesterday's purity test, they only care about your answer *right now*.
"Some kids will have gay or transgender parents or relatives. They may even have transgender classmates."
Are you ignoring, on purpose, that this applies to under 10's?
Those with transgender parent - the parents can address this with their kids. The bill doesn't stop that.
And no 9 year old has a transgender classmate.
You would think that but sickos like ENB and Mike Laurson mean to change that.
I do? Point to where I’ve advocated for encouraging kids to be trans or any such thing.
LOL
“And no 9 year old has a transgender classmate.”
Not so. As I wrote about above, from personal experience.
“Some kids [] may even have transgender classmates.”
No this cannot happen because there are no trans kids.
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""Congress granted FDA sole authority to regulate reproductive health products in the U.S. when it passed the Federal Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act," s"
Does Congress actually have the authority to do that though?
I would say not. Otherwise they could have said the DEA has sole authority to regulate illegal drugs. Or any agency to regulate anything. It would put *all* power into the hands of the Federal government except what the feds decided to allow the states to do.
Wasn't the federal government supposed to be limited to enumerated powers and the states the ones with general power?
Protection of abortion requires transferring all power from the states to the federal government.
So does banning abortion:https://www.politico.com/newsletters/politico-pulse/2022/09/14/the-federal-abortion-ban-bill-is-here-and-it-has-some-republicans-stunned-00056510
But if you set the funding issue aside here,
Whoever could have guessed ENB would set aside whatever element needs to be ignored to support the left wing position?
Oh, everyone.
In reality it's good to see the right learning to use the left's tactics. Only when those tactics are used against them is there any chance the left will come to understand they are illegitimate. But it is interesting ENB only recognizes the left's corruption on Title IX when doing so rebuts her obvious bias. Has she ever opposed this before? If so, I don't recall it, and she certainly didn't make a big deal about it.
simply say "we don't talk about that"?
That worked well for centuries.
There are certainly inappropriate ways to discuss these issues with young people, but there are also age-appropriate ways to do so.
But we do know leftists in schools intentionally choose the inappropriate ways. When people prove that they cannot make appropriate distinctions then that choice needs to be taken away from them. When their institutions refuse to do it directly then their ability to protect these inappropriate actions needs to be removed as well.
Therefore, if the coalitional trends of the past half-century continue unabated — and Democrats keep gaining college-educated votes at the expense of working-class ones — the party will find itself locked out of federal power."
It's not a very big step from this to "which is why government should pay for college". They're becoming more and more open about their motives.
Doesn't stop anyone from talking about anything ...merely says taxpayers shouldn't fund schools that seek to groom kids under 10. No different than common sense laws that taxpayers shouldn't be funding abortions.
“No different than common sense laws that taxpayers shouldn’t be funding abortions.”
How many Federal-level laws like that do we have?
Talking about sex & gender does not "sexualize" children; talking about these topics in age-appropriate ways educates them & prepares them for adulthood.
If anything, treating children as fragile dolls who are "tainted" the moment they learn anything about sex & gender does far more harm than good.
This is another media misrepresentation - much like the so called "don't say gay" legislation in Florida.
A Texas woman carrying a nonviable pregnancy had to get sick with sepsis before doctors would perform an abortion.
My first reaction is that I do not believe this story. It is too convenient for the narrative
I’m all up for full medical freedom for everyone. Until that day, I have no attention to give the myopic obsession with killing babies as the only important medical freedom.
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/texas/2022/10/19/texas-woman-nearly-died-from-infection-because-doctors-could-not-perform-legal-abortion/
Why do children need to be indoctrinated by the state with gender dysphoria? Why does a child need to read a school library book about gay identity? Parents can still get these books for their children, by opposing this bill you're arguing that the taxpayer needs to provide those books and teachers need to instruct children in these topics, why? Should the library have religious books in it? Should children be instructed by the state in bible lessons? Just because a topic is legitimate for study doesn't mean we need the state teaching it to children.
That's not the way authoritarian collectivists think. To them, allowing something is approving it. All that is not required is prohibited.
The attempted RW social engineering just doesn't stop. How about this one:
https://heartlandsignal.com/2022/10/26/tudor-dixon-wants-to-ban-books-about-divorce/