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Criminal Justice

Did Murders Rise in 2021? No One Knows.

Plus: Court says DACA is illegal, Colorado baker appeals gender transition cake ruling, and more...

Elizabeth Nolan Brown | 10.6.2022 9:46 AM

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The FBI has released its crime statistics for 2021. After 2020 data showed a steep increase in murder and violent crime, the big question was whether this was a pandemic anomaly or whether 2021 would continue the trend. The highly anticipated (and disappointing) answer: No one knows.

The latest FBI crime report—which relies on police departments voluntarily reporting local crime data—has major gaps. The New York City and Los Angeles police departments didn't report at all. Neither did most jurisdictions in Florida and many in California. The Phoenix Police Department only reported for one month; the Chicago Police Department for a little more than half the year. Overall, just 11,794 of 18,806 U.S. law enforcement agencies submitted relevant crime statistics for 2021.

With the data so incomplete, the FBI had to rely heavily on estimates.

FBI estimates suggest a 4 percent increase in homicides in 2021 over 2020. But this is within the margin of error, and thus not statistically significant.

"There were an estimated 22,900 murders in the US in 2021, with a lower bound of 21,300 and an upper bound of 24,600 murders," notes Vox. "The FBI estimates that there were 22,000 murders in the US in 2020, with lower and upper bounds between 21,000 and 23,000. Given the bounds of those estimates, murder — like Erwin Schrödinger's famous cat — could have been up 17 percent or down 7 percent, and there is no way to know for sure which is right."

"Estimation has long been used to produce the official annual reported crime statistics generated by the FBI," the agency points out. But a new data system and the dearth of agencies reporting presented new challenges and required "a new set of statistical procedures."

The result is an FBI crime report with even less reliable data and less conclusive than usual.

In most years, around 95 percent of the population is covered by agencies submitting data. This year, only around 64–65 percent was covered (the FBI gives both figures, in different spots). The discrepancy lies in changes to the way the FBI collects and reports crime statistics.

For decades, the agency collected and reported on data via a widely used Summary Reporting System (SRS) and a lesser-used National Incident-Based Reporting System (NIBRS). Some agencies have used the NIBRS since the '90s, and the proportion using it has steadily increased, but it has always represented a much smaller portion of data than the old SRS system.

This year, for the first time, the FBI's Uniform Crime Report includes only NIBRS data.

"As a result, it may seem like crime is rising and it will be tricky, at best, to compare the new data to the previous year for cities that were previously submitting data in the now obsolete format," notes Kelly McBride at Poynter. "It will also be easy for those who want to confuse the public or sow fear by creating disinformation to do so."

Under the old system, departments only counted the most serious crime in a series of related crimes. If someone robbed a store and assaulted the clerk using an illegally owned gun, only the assault would be counted. But under the newer system, police can log up to 10 crimes per incident.

So, comparing NIBRS crime data to SRS data may suggest a "rise" in certain crimes created entirely by new methods of crime reporting.

"The transition from UCR to NIBRS is a setback for crime reporters all around the country," Dylan Purcell, a data reporter at The Philadelphia Inquirer, told Poynter.

The new NIBRS data "will be fertile ground for those who want to distort or exaggerate crime trends for political or commercial reasons," suggests McBride. "And, it lays bare a dirty secret about counting crime in the United States: As a nation, we keep horrible, incomplete data that makes it impossible to get an accurate sense of the scope or impact of crime."

For instance, in terms of homicides actually recorded in 2021, we're looking at 13,537 incidents, reported by 11,794 law enforcement agencies using the NIBRS system last year. This is up from 9,630 homicides reported through NIBRS in 2020. But in 2020, only 9,993 agencies submitted NIBRS data. And while agencies reporting homicides in 2021 covered 64-65 percent of the population, agencies reporting in 2020 covered just 53 percent.

In 2019, NIBRS data covered only 47 percent of the population; in 2018, just 40 percent; and in 2017, just 33 percent. In 2012 it was just 29 percent, in 2002 just 20 percent, and in 1992 just 6 percent.

One could accurately say that there has been an enormous spike in homicides recorded through NIBRS data. But this tells us nothing about the number of homicides actually happening.

McBride also notes that "there are no checks and balances on the gathering of this data. No third party routinely audits law enforcement agencies to ensure they are counting crimes accurately. As a result, there are inconsistencies from agency to agency about what counts as reported crimes. And there are numerous examples of police using bureaucratic smokescreens to deliberately manipulate crime numbers, sometimes to make crime seem scarier, sometimes to make crime seem to be less of a problem, sometimes to make it seem like they are solving more crimes, and sometimes to undercount specific types of crimes."

For what it's worth, the FBI says that its estimates show violent crime in 2021 remained "at or near the 2020 level" (a level that was up 5.6 percent over 2019) and "violent and property crime remained consistent between 2020 and 2021."

"The aggregate estimated violent crime volume decreased 1.0 percent for the nation from 1,326,600 in 2020 to 1,313,200 in 2021," it says in a summary. "The robbery rate decreased 8.9 percent from 2020 to 2021, which heavily contributed to the decrease in overall violent crime despite increases in murder and rape rates at the national level." But "it is important to note that these estimated trends are not considered statistically significant by NIBRS estimation methods," the agency states. "The nonsignificant nature of the observed trends is why, despite these described changes, the overall message is that crime remained consistent."

The uncertainty in the data means that politicians—who have made crime a big issue in the upcoming election—can basically use the new statistics to support their position—whatever their position is. And while there's little in the new data to support our nouveau crime panic, there's also little to stop the renewed race to appear toughest-on-crime and the rejection of burgeoning criminal justice reform policies.

Relatedly:

https://twitter.com/JohnFPfaff/status/1572248652357275650


FREE MINDS

DACA doesn't fly, court says. "A federal appeals court panel ruled on Wednesday that a program that protects nearly 600,000 young immigrants from deportation is illegal but allowed those already enrolled to renew their status — in essence keeping the status of the program unchanged but its future uncertain," reports The New York Times:

The decision from the three-judge panel on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit — one of the country's most conservative federal appellate courts — affirmed a 2021 lower court decision. The Biden administration will need to continue its legal fight to enroll new applicants in the program, called the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, or DACA.

The judges sent the case back to Federal District Court in Houston to consider a new administration policy issued in August to protect the program. The new regulation was intended to go into effect at the end of the month.

Wednesday's ruling was the latest turn in a series of court rulings and administration actions that over the years has canceled, reinstated or rolled back pieces of the DACA program. It has long seemed likely that the case would ultimately go to the Supreme Court.

Immigration advocates said the ruling signaled that the only chance for DACA to survive was for Congress to pass a law to protect young immigrants, something it has been unable to do for more than two decades.


FREE MARKETS

The next housing revolution? "Accessory dwelling units"—small homes in the backyards of regular homes—have proliferated in California since they were legalized in 2016. "As more states legalize them in response to the ever-deepening housing crisis, ADUs could soon be coming to a backyard near you," writes Nolan Gray at The Atlantic. "This hyperlocal building boom might just spell the end of the American suburb as we know it—in the best possible way." More here.


QUICK HITS

• The Colorado baker whose refusal to make a gay couple's wedding cake landed him before the U.S. Supreme Court is now challenging a ruling that he violated Colorado law by refusing to bake a gender transition celebration cake. (More background on the current case here and here.)

• "A federal judge has rejected, at least for now, a lawsuit challenging a controversial [Florida] law that restricts instruction on gender identity and sexual orientation in public schools," reports CBS News.

• "The robot takeout revolution is closer than you think," writes Timothy B. Lee at Full Stack Economics.

• Methotrexate is used to treat arthritis, cancer, and autoimmune conditions. Now patients face difficulty getting it because the drug can also induce abortions.

• In Radley Balko's new Substack newsletter, he writes about "the maddening irrelevance of Charlie Vaughn's innocence." Vaughn is a severely intellectually disabled man who has been in prison in Arkansas for more than three decades, and is destined to spend the rest of his life there after being convicted—along with three others—in the murder of an 81-year-old woman Myrtle Holmes.

• A Polk County, Florida, police officer killed during a middle-of-the-night drug search was shot by fellow police officers.

• Eight reasons there's nothing equal about the "equality model" of regulating prostitution.

• RIP Loretta Lynn.

• The White House has released an artificial intelligence "bill of rights."

• "One of the silliest ideas to infect mainstream journalism in recent years is the notion that when journalists produce work about a bad person, they must signpost that work, seemingly every moment, with explicit indicators that that person is bad," writes Jesse Singal.

• "Just a day after Elon Musk announced his intention to complete his purchase of Twitter, a group that intended to provide $1 billion earlier this year to fund his proposed buyout has reportedly stepped away from the deal," reports The Daily Beast.

• Josie Duffy Rice has an interesting post on Serial and the "snapped fallacy." She writes that "the criminal legal system and the media have both come to rely on the concept of someone snapping as a crutch. It's a convenient explanation for the inexplicable, rather than the exception to the rule."

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    The FBI has released its crime statistics for 2021.

    And how many crimes did those stats show the FBI committing?

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    3. JohannesDinkle   3 years ago

      If an agency has data showing that things are going well enough or, even better, improving they will shout it to the heavens. Silence suggests the opposite is what is happening.

      1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

        Exactly. I totally believe that NYC defied all evidence and had a decline in murders, but didn't bother holding a celebratory press conference or reporting it to the FBI or anything else.

      2. Sometimes a Great Notion   3 years ago

        Not necessarily, sometimes the agency will highlight problems in order to get more funding. We could save you from x if you give us $$$ but our hands tied as it stands.

        1. JohannesDinkle   3 years ago

          In these cases, an election year, the mayor would have a major fit if the chief of police made it look like the mayor was doing a bad job. No amount of campaigning for more money could possibly get past that.

    4. Bubba Jones   3 years ago

      I hear that police departments are super rigorous at reporting police shootings.

    5. Unicorn Abattoir   3 years ago

      It's broken down by political party. You'll never guess who the FBI says is committing all the crime...

      1. BestUsedCarSales   3 years ago

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        1. Stuck in California   3 years ago

          The Bull Moose party?

          1. Unicorn Abattoir   3 years ago

            I'm sure Bull Moose had some wild parties.

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              1. TheReEncogitationer   3 years ago

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            2. TheReEncogitationer   3 years ago

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    6. Bill Falcon   3 years ago

      And ENB's conclusion? Less murders...because large cities that drive most of the murders run by dems are not reporting...

      Classic tactic these days..if you are worried the facts will dispute the narrative..bury the facts.

      Time for law and order...cashless bail for pot selling..for assault, robbery or murder..you are stuck in the paddy until your trial. Period.

  2. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    A federal appeals court panel ruled on Wednesday that a program that protects nearly 600,000 young immigrants from deportation is illegal but allowed those already enrolled to renew their status...

    Are the executive and legislative branches actually going to have to do their jobs on this?

    1. Aloysious   3 years ago

      Stop hating demokracy, you anarchist.

    2. Jerry B.   3 years ago

      The courts forcing legislators to make laws to deal with stuff is an attack on Democracy, per the Washington Post and its Liberal commentariat.

      1. JasonAZ   3 years ago

        Democracy dies by lack of Democracy. Who knew?

  3. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

    The plot thickens:
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-06/sweden-security-service-concludes-detonation-damaged-nord-stream?srnd=premium#xj4y7vzkg

    1. Cyto   3 years ago

      They had already determined this... But there is some thickened plot out there.

      Someone out together radar tracks of flights and puts US Military aircraft over the area of the breaks at the time.

      CNN had on an expert ... I hope someone has this video, it is epic... When asked "who might have done this" with a setup of "we all know it is Putin", he launches into an explanation of why it wouldn't be Russia and why it looks for all the world like it was the US...

      The key bit isn't his assertions, it is the near panic of the anchors as they attempt to get him to shut up about that.. "you have no evidence..". "oh sure. There is lots of evidence, there are radar tracks of US !ilitary helicopters out of....". Another attempt to shut him up.. "outside of the US, everyone I talk to thinks it was the Americans..."

      Pretty revealing of the propaganda attempt.

      1. JesseAz   3 years ago

        Two facts help distance it from the Russians did it.

        For those claiming Russians are just idiots and accidentally did it... they recorded 4 explosions for each pipe and the odds of both pipes failing in the same day in the same area is very small.

        Brennan was on MSNBC claiming Russia blew up their own leverage and he is a known liar and spreader of actual government lies.

        Russia blowing up their own leverage over the EU makes zero sense.

        1. JFree   3 years ago

          Russia didn't blow up its own leverage. The part of Europe that used gas from that pipeline is not the part that is doing much re Ukraine. There is no possible 'deal' that can be leveraged apart from 'give us rubles and we'll sell you gas again'.

          The bigger goal in this war is to break apart NATO. To cleave off 'Europe' (essentially unarmed and pacifist) from the 'Atlanticists' (US/UK). That has to happen BEFORE Russia can get the Baltics, Poland, the Black Sea littoral, and the former Warsaw Pact back in Russian grasp. And the only way that will happen is for Europe (dependent on Russian commodities now) to lose its ability to depend on 'the West' for those commodities. And then turn to Russia - subservient this time. That is not a six month or 'turn the pipeline back on' type timeline. It is MANY years.

          Putin/Russia may be a bit deluded about their power here. But it is quite similar to the Southern Fire-Breathers who believed that King Cotton would split the North and bring the MidWest and 'federal territory' to its knees dependent on New Orleans/River.

          1. Moonrocks   3 years ago

            Russia didn’t blow up its own leverage. The part of Europe that used gas from that pipeline is not the part that is doing much re Ukraine.

            Driving a wedge into the EU's sanctions on Russia as early as this month isn't Russian leverage? What the hell are you smoking?

            1. JFree   3 years ago

              Leverage can only exist if Russia had any possibility of reopening the gas flows. That was never going to happen the nanosecond gas also became a currency dispute

              1. JesseAz   3 years ago

                Youre honestly just a fucking idiot.

                https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/europe/germanys-klaus-ernst-calls-for-negotiations-with-russia-amid-soaring-gas-prices-report-articleshow.html

                1. ElvisIsReal   3 years ago

                  LOL it's like he doesn't understand the political climate in Germany right now.

                  1. JFree   3 years ago

                    Putin is hoping a cold winter will drive Germans to become actually desperate. Not just philosophical and talkative

                    1. Moonrocks   3 years ago (edited)

                      Putin is hoping a cold winter will drive Germans to become actually desperate

                      Yeah, desperate enough to drop EU sanctions and start buying Russian gas again. Except Germany can’t do that if there’s no Russian gas to buy.

                    2. JFree   3 years ago

                      Buying gas again is NOT the objective. Russia did not go to war to restore the status quo ante. Nor did they take that risk to acquire the Donbas. Yeesh.

                    3. Moonrocks   3 years ago

                      So Russia's objective is to drive a wedge between the German-led western EU and the US-led Anglosphere and eastern EU, but they won't do it by getting Germany back on the Russian commodities teat. No, Putin's 36DD chess move is to eliminate that possibility and force Germany to rely more heavily on US/Anglosphere sources for those commodities. Got it.

                    4. JFree   3 years ago

                      The goal is not merely to drive a wedge. The goal is to cleave off one from the other. To force Germany into choosing between security freeriding from the US v commodities from Russia. They fully expect that the US CAN'T freeride Germany's defense AND provide enough (subsidized) gas to Germany at the price Russia can sell it at. So they expect the US to FAIL - and Germany will then come crawling to Russia begging.

                      And there are still pipelines for gas from Russia to Europe. They just happen to go through the Ukraine and Belarus.

                2. Nardz   3 years ago

                  But he will reliably assert anything to help the globalist totalitarians.

                3. JFree   3 years ago

                  That only reinforces the belief that Germans are pacifist pussies. Russia knows that. Russia wants to force Germany to CHOOSE between the US and Russia. It is not looking for a couple of friends.

          2. JesseAz   3 years ago

            Lol. Energy supply entering a winter isn't leverage.

            How fucking dumb are you?

            You are aware Germany is a NATO member right. They have say in actions by NATO.

            You do know how energy is fungible and how cutting off a major supply to a major user effects energy in markets around them right?

            Have you ever said something intelligent even once?

          3. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

            Most of the gas was going to Germany in fact it was a joint project. How exactly is Germany not involved with Ukraine?

            1. JFree   3 years ago

              There is a gulf between German rhetoric about Ukraine and actual practical German support of Ukraine.

              And let me restate - Putin's objective re Germany/Europe is to cleave it off from US/UK power. Not to restore some status quo re gas sales

        2. Agammamon   3 years ago

          Both piped were shut down. The odds of bad maintenance and poorly followed procedures is incredibly high for Russian engineering.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

            It's high, but I'm going to wait and see what the Swedes come up with here. Until then, I'll err on the side of a Russian accident.

            If, and this is a big "if", it is sabotage, then it's very brazen and very clumsy.

            1. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

              The official narrative, whatever it is, will be a lie.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago (edited)

                Like I said, I want to see what the Swedes find first and then make a judgement call. I do know that the Russians intentionally blowing up the pipeline is extremely far-fetched.

                In order of likelihood (based on the latest from the Swedes):
                1. Biden Admin blows up pipeline. However, it was done in a clumsy way.
                2. Third Party blows up pipeline. They’re more likely to be clumsy, but would’ve been found out earlier.
                3. Russian industrial accident (used to be my #1 until an hour ago or so). Still a likely cause given their history.
                4. Some other industrial accident (not Russian-caused). Not unpossible – crazy things have happened before.
                999999999. Russia blows up pipeline. Doubtful as there’s no really good motive behind it.

                1. JesseAz   3 years ago

                  Sweden said it looks like explosives were used.

            2. JesseAz   3 years ago

              Accident doesn't explain the 4 recorded explosions for each pipe or the timing of it.

              How often do pipes explode? It is rare even for russia. They were not reopening 1. 2 had never been opened prior. To have both explode on the same day is such low odds if explained by an accident.

              1. mad.casual   3 years ago (edited)

                As I said below, the more I hear and think about the “It’s an accident.” narrative, the more it sounds like the “Trump is a moron who’s also a genius Russian spy who orchestrated the theft of the 2016 election and no one in the Obama Administration is guilty.” narrative.

                Accidentally blowing up a pipeline you control both ends of makes sense, but this pipeline was half built by and connected to Germany and had other countries tied in. The ‘it was an accident’ relies on the assumption that Gazprom is so stupid as to put something in or take something out on their end of a pressurized, sealed, and monitored tube and entirely expect the Germans at the other end not to notice and/or Germany to completely unconditionally allow Russia to pump gas into their domestic system. Did the Germans just get lucky that the pipe ruptured underwater rather than the inept Russians at Gazprom flipping a switch and blowing up whatever random German village the pipeline runs through on shore?

                The concept is just unfathomably retarded. Maybe, if you fully sift out who was responsible for what maintenance where and when there could be a case about the ball got dropped in international waters, a bureaucratic Gordian knot no more or less Gordian than who deliberately sabotaged it. But the ‘Russian ineptitude blew it up.’ narrative seems more and more like the ‘Russians sabotage the NS pipeline the way they stole our 2016 election’. Conclusion first, reasoning second, facts third… if we get around to that.

          2. mad.casual   3 years ago

            The odds of bad maintenance and poorly followed procedures is incredibly high for Russian engineering.

            The more I hear this, the more it also begins to sound like propaganda akin to the 'retarded genius, Russian stooge Donald Trump stole the 2016 election without Obama noticing' narrative. If Russia single handedly built an oil pipeline into EU and NATO territorial waters and blew it up without anyone on the NATO/EU side knowing about it that's a pretty big fucking deal. It's also a pretty retarded deal considering Germany had half a hand in building it, Italy designed it, Finland's tapped into it, etc., etc., etc. Everybody in between has helicopters, boats, and seismographs monitoring it. Germans are staring at the pressure valves on the opposite end as Russia.

            If it's such a shitty piece of Russian scrap, why did the Germans and the Fins look at a rusty piece of Russian scrap and say "Nah, It'll be fine!"? How did the interests opposed to NS1/2 not have every engineer who worked on the project for the last 10 yrs. saying, "It's a piece of shit that's going to explode any day." 24/7? Were they worried about impugning Russia? Did an engineer on the Russian end think they'd push gas through their end and flush out the lines or bleed gas out on their end and no one on the German end would notice the pressure rise/drop? The gas equivalent of 500 Tons of TNT enters the line without the arriving terminus being aware? And the Germans had a hand in building that system? That just reeks of absolute bullshit to me.

            1. Moonrocks   3 years ago (edited)

              Here’s rundown of how it could have been an accident: https://thelawdogfiles.com/2022/09/nordstream.html

              Long story short, what blew up was essentially a waste product that builds up in gas pipes and has to be cleaned frequently, and Gazprom tried (and failed) an unconventional procedure to clean up the months worth of build up in preparation for reopening the pipeline for the winter.

              I can’t say if it’s bullshit or not. It sounds convincing, but it doesn’t explain everything.

              1. mad.casual   3 years ago

                I read that when it first came out. It only makes superficial or strictly armchair physical sense. It's like a Mythbusters episode where they can't actually get the experiment to work, but they grant it "Plausible" because they find a document somewhere where one guy says something similar might have happened and completely ignore any context about the person writing the report being a disgruntled former employee who got fired.

                Specifically, you know the part where he explains the diesel effect? He (lawdog) literally lays out that there are Germans at the other end of the pipeline watching the pressure, waiting to slam the valves closed rather than blow up their own infrastructure. Meaning they would be sitting there watching it happen and could resolve this issue by demonstrating the pressure buildup of the clathrate cookoff prior to the rupture. Even if Gazprom successfully cleared the plug, Germany is going to see the pressure drop off which should, presumably, set off all sorts of WTF? bells.

                Moreover, the explosions, both of them, were anecdotally reported as being on par with 500 tons of TNT. That's ~50K kg or ~100K liters of LNG crammed into a 4 ft. tube, even if the entire plug detonated at once, it's still something like 20-25 km long. And that's assuming water contaminating LNG doesn't decrease the energy density.

                Moreover:

                Nord Stream 1 is operated by the special-purpose company Nord Stream AG, incorporated in Zug, Switzerland on 30 November 2005. Shareholders of the company are the Russian gas company Gazprom (51% of shares), the German companies Wintershall Dea and PEG Infrastruktur AG (E.ON) (both 15.5%), the Dutch gas company Gasunie (9%), and the French gas company Engie (9%).[17][29] The chairman of the shareholders' committee is German ex-chancellor Gerhard Schröder.

                So, ex-chancellor Gerhard Schröder is going to fuck over the German people to protect Gazprom from admitting they made a mistake? Even if you are all in that he's 100% in Russia's pocket, despite that making no more real sense than Russia sabotaging the line, Schröder picks his least-liked Sr. VP, throws him under the bus, and exonerates Russia and his largest shareholder..

                1. mad.casual   3 years ago

                  person writing the report being a disgruntled former employee who got fired

                  I didn't mean this to indicate lawdog was a former Gazprom employee. I was more highlighting a thoroughly unscientific and biased way in which credibility is lent to a logistically impossible but scientifically credible phenomenon.

        3. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

          John Brennan has been wrong about everything he ever said, so it is clearly not Russia who blew up the pipeline.

      2. Moonrocks   3 years ago

        Someone out together radar tracks of flights and puts US Military aircraft over the area of the breaks at the time.

        What kind of aircraft were they and how does that compare with any other time? I imagine there's always a US plane over the Baltic sea at any given time, if for no other reason than maritime surveillance.

        1. JFree   3 years ago

          Airplanes dropping explosives onto that pipeline is only slightly more credible than satellites dropping explosives. Which is slightly more credible than Martians dropping explosives.

          1. JesseAz   3 years ago

            You are determined to prove your ignorance today.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerial_torpedo

            And tech is a bit better since this was first done.

      3. Agammamon   3 years ago

        Military aircraft don't bomb deep underwater pipelines. They can't reach and they can't be that precise.

        They also don't parachute divers in to plant explosives - because how do the divers get out? Sub? Then why not deliver the guys *who train for sub delivery*?

        It wasn't sabotage, it was simply Russian incompetence.

        Hence why the Russians aren't screaming all that loud about it.

        1. Hank Ferrous   3 years ago

          Divers who parachuted in would get out like any other water extraction, if the helos were on station long enough. There's no reason ROVs couldn't have been used, and not recovered. I am not saying that either of these is what happened, but they are possible.

        2. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   3 years ago

          Russian incompetence is a thing, but their incompetence isn't that precise and coincidental.

          There's plenty of incentive for almost everybody, both devious politics and ordinary economics. You can't rely on incentives to narrow it down.

          My guess is 50% chance Putin, 25% chance Biden, 25% chance some other player.

          Putin because his motives are bizarre to outsiders. Look at all his former advisers committing suicide or falling out of windows -- he's obviously big on sending messages. Ditto with poisoning expats with obvious State chemicals. Big on messages. That fits in really well with destroying the pipelines that had ceased to have any utility for at least several years.

          Biden because he's senile and controlled by who knows how many different puppet masters all pulling on different strings. No wonder he doesn't know how to get off a stage or what to say, he's hearing too many conflicting messages at once. But seriously, he says so many things which get walked back, where's he get those talking points from? Who set up that creepy red-lit proto-Nazi campaign speech? There are enough of those nutters that I wouldn't be surprised if Biden had accidentally overheard a couple of them talking out their ass and repeated it later, and others acting on their own to pass word on what Biden "told" them.

          Others, I don't know. Any of the Baltic and North Sea countries could have done it, but I don't know the local politics to know what kind of goofy politics apply.

          Thing is, too many players have plausible-but-weird indirect incentives, and all are too weird for fiction, which has to sound plausible. The truth may come in in the next regime change, when some major puppet master dies, or never.

          1. JesseAz   3 years ago

            Reports already show Putin was negotiating with Germany on terms to reopen energy. Why would he do this instead of just telling them no?

            1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   3 years ago

              To send a message? Putin is rational in his own bizarre way, and consistently fond of sending messages reminding everybody how ruthless he is. You can't get much more ruthless than blowing up your own pipelines.

              1. JesseAz   3 years ago

                No is equal in messaging. This makes zero sense for Russia to have done.

          2. Ben of Houston   3 years ago

            Putin doing it explicitly to blame the US seems to be the simplest answer. America wouldn't have gone to military solutions when the political solution is simpler and less likely to backfire. However, framing the crazy gun-toting Yankees is relatively simple.

            1. JesseAz   3 years ago

              The US or some Nato country is the simplest answer. Especially since Biden already threatened it.

          3. mad.casual   3 years ago

            Russian incompetence is a thing, but their incompetence isn’t that precise and coincidental.

            In an absolutely brilliant long con, they bought off a German chancellor to get a pipe installed, put him in charge, bought off another German chancellor to switch Germany to green energy, stole the 2016 US Presidential election, failed to steal the most-secure-ever 2020 US Presidential election, started a protracted conflict in Ukraine to push back against NATO and then, uh, blew up the pipeline because... uh... they're... uh... incompetent. I mean, blew it up in an act of sabotage to make them look incompetent but, really, to force the NATO countries to solidify their energy sources elsewhere.

            1. Moonrocks   3 years ago

              they bought off a German chancellor to get a pipe installed, put him in charge, bought off another German chancellor to switch Germany to green energy

              It's more likely than you think.

              1. mad.casual   3 years ago

                Again, in toto, they expended all the time and money to build a pipeline let it blow up due to incompetence or sabotage and leave it up to the viewer what effect it would have on NATO? The same way they stole the 2016 election to have their stooge tell Germany "You're stupid to rely on Russian fuel" only to go on to fail to steal the 2020 election? It's just retarded.

                1. mad.casual   3 years ago

                  Meanwhile, WEF-sympathetic assets between the US and Europe blew it up to commit Europe and the US to yet another money-laundering-front war *and* destroy petroleum infrastructure that they've opposed since it was first constructed makes *perfect* sense, IMO.

        3. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

          Russia is demanding a UN investigation.

        4. Ben of Houston   3 years ago

          If it was an explosive, there's no reason to think it hadn't been placed quite a while ago. There is also no reason to think that it was done from the air instead of boat. A navy cutter, or even a CIA fake fishing boat would be a far easier solution than diving from parachute to be picked up by helicopter.

          1. BYODB   3 years ago

            Not to mention that you'd have to assume the military is aware of little things like RADAR in the area, and being literally seen in the area of the explosion would be the height of retarded given U.S. military options.

      4. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

        I posted that link a couple days ago. It's Bloomberg TV

      5. Minadin   3 years ago

        The Video, if it's the same clip I'm thinking of (This was on Bloomberg):

        https://twitter.com/JoelWGibbonsV/status/1577033017369169920

    2. JasonAZ   3 years ago

      Maybe, just maybe; now hear me out...we should investigate the guy that said he'd actually do it. And, has the means to do it.

      I know, this is a radical idea.

      1. mad.casual   3 years ago

        GTFO with your obvious means, motive, and opportunity bullshit. We've got serious stuff like 'If a dead tree gets declassified in the woods and no FBI Agents are around to hear it, did Trump commit a crime?', to litigate.

  4. JesseAz   3 years ago

    Long term studies on transitioning kids with drugs and surgery gave ked Europe to pull back on chemical and surgical conversions. They instead have pushed treating gender dysphoria. The studies have also shown an explosion in transition regret rate.

    This change into treating kids through therapy instead of transitioning led Secretary Blinkin to order US embassies to monitor other countries practicing "gender conversion therapy" to report back to the US.

    Yes. They are now claiming treating gender dysphoria is conversion therapy due to the negative connotation it received for gay conversion therapy.

    The Biden administration seems set on preferring medical solutions over therapy.

    https://www.city-journal.org/state-dept-launches-international-gender-pressure-campaign?wallit_nosession=1

    1. damikesc   3 years ago

      Drugs and surgeries make WAY more money than therapy.

      1. JesseAz   3 years ago

        This is most likely the truth. Those who have gone through surgery or drugs have lifetime medical treatment as part of the follow up.

  5. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    "Accessory dwelling units"—small homes in the backyards of regular homes—have proliferated in California since they were legalized in 2016.

    Good-bye, parents' basements. Hello, parents' backyard!

    1. Bubba Jones   3 years ago

      I'm going to fill my back yard with tiny homes and rent them out.

      I think the HOA won't have jurisdiction so long as I don't provide any plumbing or electricity.

      1. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

        Hmm, the ADU law still allows the HOA to fuss over the aesthetics of the ADU:

        https://snapadu.com/blog/hoa-adu-granny-flat-san-diego/

    2. BestUsedCarSales   3 years ago

      I cannot wait to have my own shed in the back yard with a Budweiser branded mini-fridge and a photo of a Lamborghini in it.

  6. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

    After 2020 data showed a steep increase in murder and violent crime

    You cannot count 2020 because everything sucked and Fatass Donnie was president. So throw all the bad data out.

    All the bad shit from 2020 must be Biden's fault.

    1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

      Eat shit, pedo.

    2. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      Sad.

    3. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

      "After 2020 data showed a steep increase in murder and violent crime
      You cannot count 2020 because everything sucked and Fatass Donnie was president. So throw all the bad data out.

      Say Shrike, what paradigm shifting event happened in 2020.

    4. damikesc   3 years ago

      Weird...literally nobody blames Biden for higher murder rates. Dem mayors and DA's are blamed for that. As they should be.

      You are so broken. Did a toddler tell you "No" when you asked to feel them?

    5. Sevo   3 years ago

      turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, a TDS-addled pile of shit and and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    6. Alayna Overbey   3 years ago

      Hey shreek, remember that time you got your original Sarah Palin's Buttplug account banned because you posted dark web links to hardcore child pornography? Any increase in you fucking little boys in the ass this year?

  7. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    The FBI’s latest crime report shows violent crime dropped in 2021, but there are a few gaps in the data — like New York and Los Angeles.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

      And for that matter, Chicago didn't even report for half the year. There's a shitload of violent crimes there that are missing.

    2. JFree   3 years ago

      This decline in reporting basic data is appalling. Not surprising I guess since as the guy quoted in the article says - The new NIBRS data "will be fertile ground for those who want to distort or exaggerate crime trends for political or commercial reasons," suggests McBride. "And, it lays bare a dirty secret about counting crime in the United States: As a nation, we keep horrible, incomplete data that makes it impossible to get an accurate sense of the scope or impact of crime."

      This is Third World level bullshit

      1. damikesc   3 years ago

        Because crime, by and large. is a state issue and not a national issue.

        It's pretty obvious why it is as it is.

        1. JFree   3 years ago

          Knowing what levels of crime exist is a federal responsibility. Like it or not - the crime victims are American citizens not state citizens. There is a huge separation of powers issue here. Citizens are the ones who have to hold states responsible for how they are dealing with crime. But they need a different level of govt to provide the info to hold states/local accountable.

          1. damikesc   3 years ago

            I fail to see how it is a federal concern at all. If NY has a high murder rate --- it impacts NY only. NJ does not have a higher rate because NY does. The Feds have virtually no role to play in this. Nor should they try to.

          2. JesseAz   3 years ago (edited)

            No it isnt. The federal government was not set up with common police powers. That is something created over time. There are very few crimes they are responsible for originally, usually related to money only.

            Just stop.

          3. Agammamon   3 years ago

            No it isn't.

            It's never been a federal responsibility. The federal government is, literally, not responsible for general law enforcement.

            All the general police powers belong to the states.

      2. Sevo   3 years ago

        From a First World level bullshitter.

      3. mad.casual   3 years ago

        Third World > One World.

      4. BestUsedCarSales   3 years ago

        I'm curious about this. Is it standard? When huge cities like this, in states that straddle both sides of the political spectrum, don't report it makes it seem like this is more standard or there is something else at play.
        I never look at statistics like this as they come out, so I don't know how standard this is.

        1. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

          This may well be more of an IT problem than a political problem.

          1. JFree   3 years ago

            I think it's more of a management problem that originates in politics. D's don't hold government accountable because their base is public sector unions. R's don't hold government accountable because it makes for better politics to see it fail.

        2. JFree   3 years ago

          It is an incompetent result of a change in the Uniform Crime Reporting system. This was the sort of change that creates confusion among those who submit data anyway. But apparently the two+ years of 'transition' stuff and/or training and/or whatever ... was just bullshit. And apparently no one figured out that the first year 'live' was devoid of anything happening.

    3. Moonrocks   3 years ago

      It matches the regime's MO of simply redefining problems away. In this case, they redefined crime statistics to exclude everywhere crime occurs, and like magic, crime disappears!

    4. Jerry B.   3 years ago

      The Washington Post used to have a database of homicides in the metro DC area. First, they removed the victim’s race, and a couple of years ago they removed it entirely, saying it was down for a refresh. Haven’t seen it since. Just finding out the number of homicides in DC is difficult, since the MPD’s online database is also unavailable.

  8. JesseAz   3 years ago

    “We find that a majority of employed workers’ real (inflation-adjusted) wages have failed to keep up with inflation in the past year,” the bank said. “For these workers, the median decline in real wages is a little more than 8.5 percent. Taken together, these outcomes appear to be the most severe faced by employed workers over the past 25 years.”

    https://justthenews.com/nation/states/center-square/americans-see-most-severe-pay-cut-25-years-due-inflation

    1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

      8.5% > 1/12

      In other words, the average worker lost the equivalent of more than a month's pay.

      1. Stuck in California   3 years ago

        That's a really relatable way of putting it. I know my raise this year was way less than an additional month's pay.

        Around here, I have to think those who aren't lucky to be remote capable like me are bearing the brunt of this. When gas is close to $7 a gallon, commuting suddenly costs 70% more than it did pre pandemic.

        1. Minadin   3 years ago

          Gas was $1.67/gallon in Missouri when Biden took office, and at one point earlier this summer, hit $5 for the first time in my life. (Earlier in the year it hit $4 for the first time in my life). That's a 300% increase.

  9. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

    A Polk County, Florida, police officer killed during a middle-of-the-night drug search was shot by fellow police officers.

    He was mistaken for the suspect's dog.

    1. JasonAZ   3 years ago

      Maybe, just maybe, that sweet, sweet drug money just isn't worth the excessive risk of these SWAT raids.

  10. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    The top-line: victimization rates are almost all at 5-year lows...

    Sure, if you ignore the twittersphere.

  11. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

    • The Colorado baker whose refusal to make a gay couple's wedding cake landed him before the U.S. Supreme Court is now challenging a ruling that he violated Colorado law by refusing to bake a gender transition celebration cake.

    How is this monster still in business?

    1. A Thinking Mind   3 years ago

      What does a gender transition celebration cake look like?

      1. Rich   3 years ago

        Don't know, but one imagines it's difficult to slice.

        1. A Thinking Mind   3 years ago

          Maybe it comes pre-chopped.

      2. Anomalous   3 years ago

        Like a regular cake, but missing some parts.

        1. Mickey Rat   3 years ago

          Much of it is plastic.

      3. mad.casual   3 years ago

        A brownie/blondie. A cake with no eggs or milk is called a brownie/blondie regardless of how vegans like to identify them.

    2. damikesc   3 years ago

      Baffled how targeted prosecution of an individual is not illegal.

      1. Overt   3 years ago

        Not that I agree with this law, but isn't EVERY prosecution a targeted prosecution of an individual? The alternative seems like it would be collective punishment (punish a neighborhood because someone in it is a resistance fighter) which generally violates international law.

        1. JesseAz   3 years ago

          Believe he means repeated actions against a single person. The find me a man and ill find you a crime type behaviors.

          1. damikesc   3 years ago

            I am referring to the barrage of suits targeting this specific baker. Roberts wanted to make the decision as minimal as possible --- as he always does --- and it is fucking this man's life up.

            Compelled speech should be illegal. Period.

      2. Minadin   3 years ago

        I believe it was a lawsuit in this case.

        https://apnews.com/article/us-supreme-court-jack-phillips-lawsuits-colorado-denver-a589873d7c2be64d07e1dc0433b13f64

        Colorado needs to repeal its baker-licensing laws to allow more than one professional baker to operate in the state, obviously.

  12. JesseAz   3 years ago

    DoJ is continuing to expand its use of the FACE acr to threat pro life activists with 10 years in prison. This time going after activists protesting at the houses of abortion doctors.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/more-pro-life-activists-targeted-by-fbi-report

    1. Idaho Bob   3 years ago

      "Hurley also noted that federal agents allegedly called other individuals involved in the “rescue” events, saying they have arrest warrants, and telling the protestors to turn themselves in."

      Turn themselves in...If they can't catch you, they can't J6 imprison you.

      And this:

      "The arrest seemed to stem from a court case dismissed by a federal court in Philadelphia, but somehow picked up by the Department of Justice, his family said."

      I'm waiting for the midnight executions to begin. The first one will be a no-knock raid gone bad, the rest will reported as such.

      1. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

        Pure paranoia.

        1. JesseAz   3 years ago

          Just ignore the stories like linked above. Or political lawfare

          1. Idaho Bob   3 years ago

            Ignore all evidence that contradicts the Democratic agenda. Ol' Mike also ignores the historical patterns we are watching unfold in real time. But hey, his side is in charge.

            1. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

              My side is non-partisan libertarianism.

              1. JesseAz   3 years ago

                Lol. Your joke writing is getting better.

  13. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   3 years ago

    "A federal judge has rejected, at least for now, a lawsuit challenging a controversial [Florida] law that restricts instruction on gender identity and sexual orientation in public schools," reports CBS News.

    Would this be the notorious DON'T SAY GAY law? The one that literally makes it illegal for any student or faculty to say (or write) "gay" in any school anywhere in the state?

    With DeSantis recently engaging in KIDNAPPING and HUMAN TRAFFICKING it's honestly difficult to keep track of all his crimes against Koch / Reason left-libertarianism. 🙁

    #LibertariansForImprisoningBidensEnemies
    #LizCheney2024

    1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

      You should know by now that we are a Christian nation and gayness must be expunged.

      #FederalistSocietyRules

      1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

        No one fucking cares whether a person is gay. It's sickos like you who prey on children that I despise.

        1. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   3 years ago

          He puts the + in that alphabet

      2. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago (edited)

        How about pedophilia, dipstick?

        #TurnYourSeflInAsshole

        1. JesseAz   3 years ago

          #PedoOfDogdickGorgia

      3. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

        "Gayness"

        I guess catamites and pederasty are technically gay, Shrike, but that's not the part people hate you for.

        1. JesseAz   3 years ago

          This explains the support of Afghanistan refugees. They have a cultural acceptance of a practice called bacha bazi which is essentially the grooming or rape of young boys in their culture

          https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/23/world/asia/afghanistan-military-abuse.html

          This has led to many instances of boys being attacked by refugees from the country in other countries.

          1. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

            The Taliban had pretty much shut that down prior to the US invasion. Made a big comeback and now being exported.

      4. Sevo   3 years ago

        turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, a TDS-addled pile of shit and and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
        If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
        turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

      5. Alayna Overbey   3 years ago

        What is the Federalist Society's position on criminal prosecution of pedophiles who post links to hardcore child pornography, shreek?

        1. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   3 years ago

          At kbj Supreme Court confirmation.
          Q: why did you push for less than a year in prison for a child porn a Grapher?
          Kbj: cmon man child porn isn't that bad.
          Q: what? Name 1 good thing about child porn!
          Kbj: it's easy?

    2. creech   3 years ago

      You left out "DeSantis is neglecting his duties as governor to clean up after the hurricane and had to crawl to President Biden begging for his help and supremely competent FEMA. Even V.P. Harris, the most competent black woman ever, agrees that minorities are being ignored by the evil Republicans in Florida."

      1. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

        Oddly, for these partisan days, Biden went and praised DeSantis for his handling of the hurricane aftermath:

        https://www.newsweek.com/biden-praises-desantis-remarkable-response-hurricane-ian-1749208

        1. JesseAz   3 years ago

          I bet DeSantis punched him right?

    3. mad.casual   3 years ago

      The one that literally makes it illegal for any student or faculty to say (or write) “gay” in any school anywhere in the state?

      I assume 'aslighting-gay' is right out? Asking for a friend.

      1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   3 years ago

        Speak English, you Latinx pig!

        1. Stuck in California   3 years ago

          I love the word Latinx now.

          It turned a bunch of my friends -- Mexican and Cuban -- from ideologically ambiguous, like "whatever, I'll look at the candidates", to "I'll never vote Democrat again" because they hate it so much.

          1. Minadin   3 years ago (edited)

            Nothing says ‘tolerance, acceptance, and diversity’ quite like belligerently ignoring the cultural norms and linguistic conventions of the other 95% of countries in the Western hemisphere. You must insist that they change, not you.

            That’s inclusiveness.

          2. mad.casual   3 years ago

            The funniest thing is the 100% foreseeable nature of the whole thing. Like after decades of Americans being decried internationally as illiterate hicks for being largely monolingual the social elite decide to throw off the shackles of the ignorant, under class American rubes by demonstrating to the international community that they can't even *think* multi-linguistically, let alone multi-culturally.

          3. Minadin   3 years ago

            https://notthebee.com/article/it-is-hard-to-believe-democrats-have-blown-it-this-badly-with-hispanic-voters-in-just-10-years-but-they-have

  14. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    Reason Rundown

    Jacinda Ardern and Labour, goneburger

    "Following months of economic mishandlings, policy flip-flops and scandals, Labour are in free fall - desperate to retain power. However, Kiwis are far from keen, with only 29.5 percent of the nation standing with Jacinda Ardern and her ever-dwindling caucus, according to the poll. A distressing figure for what was a party supported by 50 percent of the nation merely two years ago."

    Sayonara, fascist (and I mean fascist literally).

    1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      She is simply a terrible person.

    2. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

      Looks like it's not Springtime for Jacinda.

    3. JasonAZ   3 years ago

      The Kiwis are slowly starting to restore my faith in their intelligence. Gonna break open some top shelf bourbon when this flaming fascist finally gets the boot.

  15. JesseAz   3 years ago

    Google settles with Arizona for 85 million for tracking users even when they disabled location tracking

    General Brnovich started investigating Google after a 2018 Associated Press article revealed the company misled and deceived its consumers about the collection and use of their personal location data. Google did so by tracking smartphones even when consumers disabled the “Location History” setting.

    https://justthenews.com/nation/states/center-square/arizona-attorney-general-announces-85-million-settlement-google

    1. BestUsedCarSales   3 years ago

      Interesting. Though, I thought maybe you had cut off "Attorney" from the beginning of your quote accidentally, but nope. The article calls him "General Brnovich" in that sentence.
      So, that reported made a common mistake there about Attorney General as the phrase. Those damn French loan-phrases confusing our us to this day with their right-side adjectives.

      1. JesseAz   3 years ago

        Lol. I didn't even notice that.

  16. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    Reason Rundown

    NBC’s Ben Collins Gives the Game Away on ‘Disinformation’

    1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      It’s funny how one man can blow so many minds.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

        It's fun, isn't it. I've got popcorn so I can watch the proggies lose their little minds.

    2. damikesc   3 years ago

      Also weird how reporters all seem to be the kids of brutally wealthy folks. Journalism is no longer a career.

      1. BestUsedCarSales   3 years ago

        I think there is something to the idea that reporting was hurt by credentialism as much as anything else. The idea that one would get a degree in journalism is pretty recent (outside of, like, a researcher in Journalism or something more esoteric). It's definitely a trade, and was traditionally people who went and got a job and learned by doing.
        One more thing lost by credentialism.

        1. R Mac   3 years ago

          All by design. You can’t have the progressives who took over academia influence journalism if journalism doesn’t require going into academia beforehand.

        2. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   3 years ago

          Who's the guy that said "don't tell my mother I'm a journalist, she thinks I'm the piano player in a whore house"

  17. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

    Methotrexate is used to treat arthritis, cancer, and autoimmune conditions. Now patients face difficulty getting it because the drug can also induce abortions.

    So we must elect brain-damaged idiots like Herschel Walker to decide these things.

    1. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   3 years ago

      Like many white progressives, you're at your most righteous when denouncing Black and Brown bodies who disobey your command to vote Democrat. 🙂

      Are you excited to vote for Warnock and Abrams? Did you donate some of your #BidenBoom earnings to their campaigns?

    2. Sevo   3 years ago

      turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, a TDS-addled pile of shit and and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
      Fuck off and die, trur

    3. Alayna Overbey   3 years ago

      No, we need scholars like Ketanji Brown Jackson who don't know what a woman is to decide these things.

      I mean you're literally clinically retarded and even you can differentiate the girl-hole from the boy-hole when you're raping children, shreek.

      1. JesseAz   3 years ago

        Just this week she claimed amendments stating equal treatment originally meant disparate treatment by race for government.

    4. Jerry B.   3 years ago

      Slaves who leave the Democratic plantation must be punished.

    5. R Mac   3 years ago

      Turn yourself in for your crimes against children.

  18. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    The Colorado baker whose refusal to make a gay couple's wedding cake landed him before the U.S. Supreme Court is now challenging a ruling that he violated Colorado law by refusing to bake a gender transition celebration cake.

    I wonder how empty these people's life will be like when they've gotten the bureaucrats to slay all their enemies. I guess there's always manufacturing new enemies.

    1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      Who would have guessed a cake baker would be an enemy?

    2. Moonrocks   3 years ago

      There's always new enemies, even if they have to cannibalize themselves to find them.

    3. BestUsedCarSales   3 years ago

      There's always enemies. They're in the room right now with them.

      As a note, I have gone to Masterpiece, bought a mug. It's bizarre how normal of a guy he seems and how normal of a store it is in a completely bog-standard strip mall in a freeway.

    4. Cronut   3 years ago

      That's the defining feature of Marxist revolutions- they're never over. There will always be new enemies.

  19. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    Reason Rundown

    WaPo: Did the Secret Service cover up a motorcade accident involving the VP?

    1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      Did Biden try to grab the steering wheel?

    2. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   3 years ago

      Who the fuck let a woman drive?

  20. A Thinking Mind   3 years ago

    And of course, government is clearly the only vehicle for telling us how many homicides happened in a single year. Without government reporting to us, we'd never know if our family members were murdered.

    Surely there are news organizations who can keep this information for us.

    1. Stuck in California   3 years ago (edited)

      While I certainly don’t trust news organizations, there could easily be a think tank or coalition that published the numbers and the data behind them for openness. Other news organizations and private data literate people could keep it honest.

      Federal government agencies erode whatever confidence was left in them when they do the job. Look at the CDC, pretty much outing themselves as incompetent during the Covid era by constantly publishing bad science, specious data, and obvious spin while not even sorting out the most basics of data. Like “of” vs “with” statistics, or setting up RCTs for the most vital of information.

      Nobody trusts the FBI. Shit like this just makes them look worse.

      It’d be better for everyone if someone else held that data so we could check the FBI’s shite reports.

  21. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    Reason Rundown

    Every institution has to be corrupted, even 4H.

    Fed up with 4-H focus on DEI, local group forms an alternative

    1. mad.casual   3 years ago

      Having grown up in 4-H, FFA, and raised the kids in Scouts, I think they're fools for not thinking that their organization, if even modestly successful, won't be captured/killed just like the ones before it, but I wish them luck.

    2. BestUsedCarSales   3 years ago

      Head, Heart, Hands, and HeShes

      1. Stuck in California   3 years ago

        You're on a roll today. That's the third great post of yours I've read.

        I loved the imagery of the Lamborghini poster in your backyard shed, too. Kudos.

        1. BestUsedCarSales   3 years ago

          Thank you. I hope you imagined the Lamborghini as yellow. If not, you imagined it wrong, I'm sorry.

          1. Stuck in California   3 years ago

            As a proponent of red and the owner of several Italian Red motorcycles over the years, I can assure you that the lamborghini is yellow.

            Yellow is the fastest color. Even for Ferraris, yellow is fastest. Facts are facts.

  22. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    Reason Rundown

    At Politico, taxpayer money is the "President's wallet".

    1. Anomalous   3 years ago

      It's because they're children who see the President as Daddy.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

        One might think the proggies would be happier with Louis XIV than with George Washington.

  23. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    Reason Rundown

    Disney heiress slams great-uncle Walt: ‘He bordered on rabid fascism’

    1. Nemo Aequalis   3 years ago

      It's amazing how all these awesome people turn out to be fascists! Almost as amazing as their heirs turning out to be useless sots.

    2. damikesc   3 years ago

      I, uh, do not see her forgoing her entire inheritance over that. So, clearly, not a big problem.

      1. Anomalous   3 years ago

        Well, he just "bordered on" fascism, so no need to go crazy here.

        1. mad.casual   3 years ago

          Are we even sure that the statement isn't, "On the other side of the border of Reedy Creek is rabid fascism."?

        2. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

          Semi Fascist.

  24. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    A federal judge has rejected, at least for now, a lawsuit challenging a controversial [Florida] law that restricts instruction on gender identity and sexual orientation in public schools...

    We're not calling it Don't Say Gay anymore???

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

      Obviously they can't say gay (never mind that "gay" never once appears in the law).

    2. BestUsedCarSales   3 years ago

      Don't worry. It's still enforced.
      I was in Tampa trying to buy an ice cream at a Twistee Treat when I saw an old man walking down the street. He was dressed in a seersucker suit, wearing a straw hat, and twirling a cane while whistling my favorite song, "Campdown Races".
      He saw me get my delicious soft-serve ice cream and commented that "Looks like someone is having a gay old time."

      Immediately shocktroopers popped out of bushes and whisked him away to Alabama. Which I was informed is the prison colony of the south.

      1. R Mac   3 years ago

        Alabama should put those people on a plane and fly them to Martha’s Vineyard where they’ll be welcomed.

  25. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    Reason Rundown

    The Globalist Climate Agenda is a Crime Against Humanity

    " It is more than a misguided but well-intentioned mistake. It is a brazen lie, promulgated by some of the most dangerous people who have ever lived."

    1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

      OKay, I put your headline through Google's Wingnut Translator and got this:

      'Jews Will Not Replace Us"

      1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

        Hey, you're the guy who works for a Hitler Youth with actual Nazi party membership who raided Jewish homes.

        Better do some serious self examination before you start inventing phony dogwhistles.

        1. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   3 years ago

          Those people starving in shrilanka didn't happen

        2. JesseAz   3 years ago

          He is also claiming the KKK was formed by conservatives and not democrats on his SRG sock.

          1. BestUsedCarSales   3 years ago

            Who even knows. That could easily be one of those things where they use "conservative" vs. "democrat" which is a vague political sensibility vs. a political party. Common thing to just argue around terminology without ever defining it.

            1. JesseAz   3 years ago (edited)

              Nope. I clarified with him asking if it was the democrat party that was the formation of the KKK. His response was essentially anything racist was conservative.

              The democrats of today are still pushing segregation. He ignored Jim Crow was put in place to force people to segregate. A policy the left still uses to enforce desired behaviors.

              1. Stuck in California   3 years ago

                >anything racist was conservative.

                Something something southern strategy, blah blah.

                Bad enough when it's internet trolls, but I heard NPR pushing this exact statement 6 years ago. Fucking gaslighting, to begin with. And remarkably offensive. Call me a racist like that, to my face, and I'll put your nose through the back of your head.

                Some of these folks need to have a discussion with politically and ideologically diverse folks. Really discuss. In person, one on one or in a small group. Like on a Sunday morning in a church parking lot, or a coffee shop, or while having a smoke at the pub. I'd pay to be a fly on the wall of that pub when they instantly branded their fellows as racists.

            2. Stuck in California   3 years ago

              I muted SRG, too.

              That was his MO. Rhetorical hyperbole. It's another version of "the parties switched sides". That's proof of intellectual dishonesty. Well, that and posting the obvious troll statements starting with "You cons all think..."

              Half this place is 50 centers, I'm sure, but the bluntest and most obvious of the trolls aren't even subtle about it. Those guys aren't fun and get turned into grey bars.

              1. Sevo   3 years ago

                That stupid sumbitch preferred FDR over Trump as a POTUS who did his best to preserve and enlarge our freedoms.
                He, like the asshole sarc, claims "libertrian", but capsized to port a long time ago.

      2. Sevo   3 years ago

        turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, a TDS-addled pile of shit and and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
        If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
        turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

      3. Alayna Overbey   3 years ago

        I put your username into the sex offender database and got this:

        shreek is a known pedophile who was banned from Reason.com for posting dark web links to hardcore child pornography.

  26. Rich   3 years ago

    The Colorado baker whose refusal to make a gay couple's wedding cake landed him before the U.S. Supreme Court is now challenging a ruling that he violated Colorado law by refusing to bake a gender transition celebration cake.

    One surmises that cake probably has fewer layers than the gay cake.

    1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      No, the cake turns into a pie.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

        Self-identifies as a pie.

    2. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   3 years ago

      This is harassment

      1. Alayna Overbey   3 years ago

        SCROTUS punted on the issue so they can technically do this to him for the rest of eternity unless they do like they did the last time and actually document the fact that they are targeting him because of his religion.

        1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

          Roberts is a coward who is completely content to let mobs ruin people's lives and let this country go down in flames, so long as he receives middling praise from WaPo and NYT.

    3. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

      Seems like more of a cupcake occasion, but I’d like to see Martha and Rachael weigh in.

  27. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    The robot takeout revolution is closer than you think...

    Skynet starts out as a fry cook, you know.

  28. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    Reason Rundown

    Whatever could go wrong?

    US would destroy Russian forces if Putin uses nukes: former CIA head Petraeus

    The sudden insouciance of the establishment and their media partners to nuclear war is surprising. Particularly with their blind panic several years ago over a dead Iranian terrorist.

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

      We used to have a thing called mutually assured destruction. Now Top Men are claiming we can "win" a nuclear war with Russia. Maybe I'm just old school but I don't think it matters who fires the first shot and the idea that the war would be limited to Ukraine and Russia is insane.

  29. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    Reason Rundown

    Hot mic night

    ‘no one f–ks with a Biden’

    “And by the way, you were raised the same way I was,”
    “I was, I was,”
    “No one f—s with a Biden,”
    “Goddamn right,”
    “And you can’t argue with your brothers outside the house,”

    1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

      I have no clue what he's saying aside from the fact he's trying to be vaguely threatening. If he sounds like an Alzheimer's patient pretending to be Don Corleone, that's because he is.

    2. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      Sounds like dialog from Goodfellas.

    3. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

      How much longer until they decide to 25th him?

      1. MK Ultra   3 years ago

        Maybe after the two year mark, so Harris gets to play president, with the understanding that she's unelectable in 2024. Democrats get to say "First Black Female President!", and hope she doesn't get us into too many wars during her reign.

    4. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

      Spoken like a true Puerto Rican.

    5. Aloysious   3 years ago

      No one fucks with a Biden?

      That's not what Ashley Biden implies.

  30. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    Methotrexate is used to treat arthritis, cancer, and autoimmune conditions. Now patients face difficulty getting it because the drug can also induce abortions.

    Giving it the old horse paste treatment, eh?

    1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

      This is impossible. White Mike clearly told us all that pharmaceuticals can only have one application each.

    2. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

      That was quite a stretch to get in a reference to the right-wing ivermectin grievance talking point.

      1. JesseAz   3 years ago (edited)

        Man. Every time you post you look like a fucking idiot. You used the horse medicine narrative and attacked Rogan. Yet just a few months ago…

        https://www.clarkcountytoday.com/news/new-ivermectin-study-shows-92-lower-chance-of-covid-death/

        Youre just an ignorant statist loving moron.

      2. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

        Both off label usages suddenly getting scrutiny. One from the right, one from the left.

        1. R Mac   3 years ago

          Dee’s really not that bright.

        2. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

          It wasn't hard to get a prescription for ivermectin for COVID-19 treatment because of a legal ban on recovering from COVID-19. It was hard because most doctors wouldn't prescribe it because of lack of evidence of being effective as a treatment.

          1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

            Except that that isn't true, and your team was actually censoring trials that demonstrated a benefit.

  31. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   3 years ago

    "In Radley Balko's new Substack newsletter"

    Hmmmmm. Radley Balko? Is he yet another example of the Koch-funded-libertarian-to-garden-variety-MSM-progressive pipeline? I thought he went to WaPo like Dave Weigel.

    #BeforeMyTime

  32. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    A Polk County, Florida, police officer killed during a middle-of-the-night drug search was shot by fellow police officers.

    Why would the methhead do this?

    1. ElvisIsReal   3 years ago

      She WAS charged for the murder.

  33. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    The White House has released an artificial intelligence "bill of rights."

    "I'll have those computers voting Democratic for 200 years!"

    1. Social Justice is neither   3 years ago

      Well, just the voting machines the rest have processing privelege and need to be re-educated to follow the narrative.

  34. JesseAz   3 years ago

    "Estimation has long been used to produce the official annual reported crime statistics generated by the FBI," the agency points out. But a new data system and the dearth of agencies reporting presented new challenges and required "a new set of statistical procedures."
    .
    The result is an FBI crime report with even less reliable data and less conclusive than usual.
    .
    In most years, around 95 percent of the population is covered by agencies submitting data. This year, only around 64–65 percent was covered (the FBI gives both figures, in different spots). The discrepancy lies in changes to the way the FBI collects and reports crime statistics

    Just one step behind climate modeling. Next step is to adjust the last crime numbers to get the trends they want.

  35. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    One of the silliest ideas to infect mainstream journalism in recent years is the notion that when journalists produce work about a bad person, they must signpost that work, seemingly every moment, with explicit indicators that that person is bad...

    Twitter has ruined/exposed journalism. They all have to signal to survive.

    1. Cyto   3 years ago

      Interesting story about this is making the rounds. Someone did some research into national reporters, particularly the Dox and Cancel crowd.

      Turns out, their past was mysteriously missing from the internet. There were a couple of examples, but the one that caught my ear was Taylor Lorenz. Turns out, she is from a very wealthy family. More importantly. She has been able to have all information about her family connections and her early life scrubbed from the internet. And information she doesn't want out there gets permanently removed. Her deleted tweets, gone from the way back machine, along with information about her.

      Some further digging reveals... Her wealthy uncle is one of the honchos at the wayback machine. So that explains that.

      From memory, so some details might be missing.. but interesting that someone who has repeatedly used internet history and doxing to attack people has a level of protection from having her history examined. It also makes one wonder who else is being protected.

      But it does make sense that a large portion of national journalists would be trust fund babies. Low pay and Manhattan lifestyles just don't fo hand in hand.

      1. JesseAz   3 years ago

        The Twitter thread by Neville Cat has now been removed for going after journalists from rich families.

        1. JesseAz   3 years ago (edited)

          Twitchy still has the texts from the posts here.

          https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2022/10/05/tweeter-risks-wrath-of-some-of-americas-most-privileged-lib-journos-in-order-to-expose-their-efforts-to-hide-their-backgrounds-from-the-public/

          Here is his account deleted.

          https://mobile.twitter.com/fearthefloof

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

            It's quite stunning how many marxists are either millionaires/billionaires or the children of such. It's almost as if they're happy to have theirs and don't want anyone else to join them.

            1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

              It’s almost as if they’re happy to have theirs and don’t want anyone else to join them.

              It's not just that they don't want anyone to join them, they view most people are inferior human beings and are (increasingly openly) disdainful of the comparative luxury enjoyed by middle- and lower-class citizens in most first-world countries today.

              The green movement is largely about taking that away.

            2. Anomalous   3 years ago

              This has been happening since Friedrich Engels.

          2. Griffin3   3 years ago

            Here is image backup of twitter thread: https://enblocpress.com/fear-the-floof-tweet-thread/

            Especially interesting is the revelation that Taylor Lorenz uncle runs the WayBack Archive, and apparently removed all deleted tweets from it immediately on her request. And here I thought superpowers would be more ... super.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

              Link got eaten by Reason.

          3. R Mac   3 years ago

            Lol at the Matthew Yglesias mention.

      2. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago (edited)

        Taylor Lorenz is such an asshole too, with the gall to go after @LibsofTikTok. She deserves nothing less than a full doxing.

        But it’s her uncle that’s the big story here. You see Taylor Lorenz’s mom and uncle were mega rich children of a very powerful politician… and R. McDonald (her uncle) is the owner / founder of the WayBackMachine internet archive.

        And speaking of ENB and her beau…

        Matthew Yglesias 41 years old was born to Rafael Yglesias, millionaire screenwriter & novelist. His paternal grandparents were novelists Jose Yglesias and Helen Yglesias.

        That’s Generational wealth.

        What a lovely page you found, JesseAz. 🙂

        1. JesseAz   3 years ago (edited)

          Shame he never made it to the writers here. I was following his thread for updates.

        2. BestUsedCarSales   3 years ago

          So... R. McDonald had a server farm...

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

            E I E I O.
            And on this farm he had a Delete key.
            E I E I O.
            With delete delete here and a delete delete there, he managed to wipe out his niece's history.
            E I E I O.

        3. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

          R. McDonald = Ronald?

    2. Social Justice is neither   3 years ago

      They find it silly that the rules they impose on others be imposed on them? Fuck those hypocrites. I remember their take on Charlotesville where explicit condemnation of White Supremacists in one sentence wasn't enough because the next sentence talked about other people there and the press couldn't help but misreporting. Live by the lie, die by the lie you marxist scum.

  36. Longtobefree   3 years ago

    Just for the record, the FBI lies.

  37. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   3 years ago

    How can reason ignore the massive spike in white supremicy violence.
    There was a white supremist that shot a prolife canvaser
    19 white supremist attacks/arson on pro life groups
    A whit supremist ran over a teenager over politics.

    Yep all of that is solely due to whit supremicy and far right violence

  38. Cyto   3 years ago

    Propaganda machine hiding the story again.

    We just had a real "walls are closing in" bombshell that is being completely shut down.

    During the run up to the presidential election, someone was peddling Biden's daughter's journal. Nobody would touch it because it could not be verified and everyone was wary of publishing a fake.

    Well.....

    Two people were just convicted (pleading guilty) in a federal case. They admit to stealing the journal.

    Which means... The federal government just verified that it is indeed the authentic diary of Joe Biden's adult daughter, in which she purportedly claims that she was molested by her father.

    Several major news organizations have (or had) copies of this.

    And yet..,.

    Nobody is interested?

    Really? The actual president of the United States is accused in writing by his daughter of molesting her.... And it isn't even a below the fold story?

    For those who say it isn't a conspiracy or a coverup, and nobody would have reported this about any politician... Every Republican president in my lifetime has had allegations that proved to be lies reported extensively by the national press. Even things that are merely embarrassing but in no way illegal.

    NBC had a long story about Herschel Walker this morning... Which relied entirely on "The Daily Beast is reporting" as their source. But nothing about molestation by the president from their own reporters who read the diary and could tell us about the allegations directly from the source?

    Is this where Reasonites insert "too local"?

    1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

      Remember how when Trump bragged about how good looking his kids were, JournoLists and blue checks were falling all over each other to call him incestuous.

      I remember White Mike calling it "creepy" about 100 times a day, bringing it up on completely unrelated topics.

      And yet now there's solid evidence giving implication that Joe fucked his daughter and Hunter fucked his niece, when both girls were minors, but crickets.

      1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

        All allegations against Democrats are fact. Doesn't matter what it is. They're all true. Anyone who waits for more information is a leftist who is covering up the truth. This is yet another example of how Reason is a bunch of leftists. If they weren't leftists they'd be parading all these allegations as fact, because they are fact. Anyone who says otherwise is a leftist.

        1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

          You didn't even read what we were talking about, did you? You're just mad we're badmouthing Democrats.
          Fucking drunken tribalist troll.

          1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

            I'm just pointing out that if anyone said the same thing about a Republican you'd be threatening to murder them for badmouthing your team.

            1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

              No you're not. You were pissy that we were talking smack about Joe.

              1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                No you're not! No you're not! This is what you really think! Nya nya nyaaa!

                Grow up.

                1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

                  Sober up. You're too old to be shitfaced and petulant this early, trollboy.

                  1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                    Tell me more about what I think, you can do it! Hold your nose to make the whining even more shrill!

                    1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

                      You have absolutely no introspection ability, do you. It's like arguing with a cartoon character.

                    2. Alayna Overbey   3 years ago

                      WAAAAAAAAAAA PEOPLE ARE QUOTING ME DIRECTLY AND POINTING OUT THAT I'M A PATHETIC WHINING ASSHOLE!!!! WAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!

                      It's hilarious that you think anyone else is half as obsessed with you as you are.

                    3. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                      Why do you even argue with me at all? Just talk about me in the third person, make shit up, and argue against that.

                    4. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

                      Oh for fuck's sake. You don't understand what the "third person" is.

                      How do you even manage to breathe and eat food, Sarc?

                    5. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                      There you go again, telling me what I think, what I know, and what I believe.

                      Just post what I think and argue against that. No point in me being involved at all.

                    6. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

                      I'm not telling you what to think. I'm stating that you don't think and you're using terms that you don't know the meaning of.

                      Are you even reading what you're responding to?

                    7. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                      "Third person" is when your idol JesseAz posts things like "His vociferous defense and deflection from this story makes me wonder if the rumors about sarcs own life are true."

                      Why don't you just do that from now on? No need for me to be involved. Just make statements about me and argue about that. You girls can have fun talking shit back and forth. Just like your good old days in middle school.

                    8. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

                      Jesse uses the third person regarding you when he's talking to us, not you, you ferocious retard. How the hell do you expect him to reference you?

                      Anyway, you're yelling at me, not Jesse right now, and I was addressing you directly.

                    9. JesseAz   3 years ago

                      I haven't even responded to sarc this morning lol. Technically this is the first response to his post.

                      Just letting him roll around in his own shit.

                2. Alayna Overbey   3 years ago

                  It's funny because that's quite literally exactly what you did. It's almost like you're an impotent little passive aggressive faggot manboy who projects his neurotic bullshit onto everyone else as a coping mechanism or something.

          2. Social Justice is neither   3 years ago

            More like Sarc sees nothing wrong with fucking your daughter and so he rushes to the defense, that or he's a leftist defending leftists because tribe.

        2. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

          Maybe Biden is innocent. I am willing to listen to that claim. Now explain to me why his daughter lied to her diary about Biden taking showers with her when she was a teenager? Inquiring minds want to know.

          1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

            All I'm saying is that lots of women make shit up. Instead of assuming guilt because they're on the other team, maybe some sober analysis is warranted.

            1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

              In her diary?

              1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                If these accusations were made against Trump you'd be personally attacking the source and anyone who dared to repeat it.

                Try having some intellectual consistency.... HAAAAA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

                Sorry but I couldn't say that last part with a straight face.

                1. Alayna Overbey   3 years ago

                  Hey, weren't you just whining like a pathetic little bitch about other people telling you what you think? See, it's funny, because that's not what anyone was going to you, but it's exactly what you're doing now. 9:55 AM and you're already this shitfaced. Can you please keep doing this every day so that the cirrhosis can do its merciful work faster?

                2. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

                  "If these accusations were made against Trump you’d be personally attacking the source and anyone who dared to repeat it."

                  Hey Sarc. You know how you never can quite seem to grasp what "strawmanning" is?

                  That was strawmanning.

                  1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                    If I was a loser like you or one of your girlfriends, I'd dig up posts where you personally attack anyone who says anything mean about Trump. But I'm not, so I won't.

                    1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

                      Being hoisted on your own petard so frequently by everyone has really given you a complex, huh?

                      If you were clever you'd learn not to say such stupid shit all the time, but learning isn't your super power.

                    2. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                      If you didn't make shit up about me you'd have nothing to talk about.

                    3. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

                      What? That you're a formerly homeless, alcoholic, fry cook and a child of divorce, who's acrimoniously divorced yourself?

                      You've told us all that yourself. If it's not true then your the one lying. Not me.

                    4. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                      That's not what I'm talking about, and you know it.

                      I'll just let you girls have fun talking about me. You do seem to enjoy it. When I occasionally pop in on weekends and do a vanity search of the comments, there's always a conversation about me involving you, JesseAz and others. I wish I could get paid for the time you spend thinking about me.

                    5. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

                      "That’s not what I’m talking about, and you know it."

                      No I don't know.

                      What are you pretending I have "made up" about you?

                    6. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                      There is a gulf between the made-up narrative about me and what I actually say. You side with the narrative 100% of the time, and call me a liar when what I say conflicts with what you say about me.
                      You seriously want examples? No. I'm not playing. Fuck off.

                    7. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

                      "You seriously want examples? No. I’m not playing."

                      Because there aren't any you lying fuck. Your whole schtick here consists of trolling threads and then crying about being bullied when people start punching back.
                      Only you have to invent an entire phony victimhood narrative to do it.

                      Now fuck off, trollboy. 9Gag is that way ====>

                3. damikesc   3 years ago

                  "If these accusations were made against Trump you’d be personally attacking the source and anyone who dared to repeat it."

                  Except his daughter did not make such an accusation in a diary. Your "Whataboutism!!!" is duly noted, though.

                  1. sarcasmic   3 years ago (edited)

                    Bzzzt. “Whataboutism” would be “What about when Trump did this or Republicans did that?”

                    You know what I mean. You do it every single time someone says anything about your team. “WHATABOUT HILLARY? WHATABOUT OBAMA? THEY DID IT FIRST! NOT FAIR! WAHHHH!”

                    Sorry, but the whatabout prize goes to you and your buddies. Not me.

                    1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

                      It's not "whataboutism" when actual, relevant hypocrisy is involved, Sarcasmic.

                      You and the fifty-centers pretend there isn't a difference.

                    2. damikesc   3 years ago

                      Sorry, your pointless bullshit is duly noted.

                    3. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

                      I often get accused of whataboutism, when I'm actually engaging in bothsidesism. Sometimes it's my fault, because I should always lead my comment with a disclaimer, "I agree that Democrats are awful, but Republicans do the same thing..." Not that my including a disclaimer would be recognized by JesseAz and others.

                    4. JesseAz   3 years ago

                      Do you have a citation white mike?

                    5. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

                      Run citation requests by his trainer at Seaworld first, Jesse.

            2. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

              We know it is her diary and we know it said that she showered with him when she was a teenager. So either that happened in which case Biden is a fucking degenerate who should be shot or it didn't and she was lying to her own diary. Again, why would she lie to her own diary? I can't think of a good reason for that. I would be curious to hear if you can.

              1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                I don't assume guilt based upon team.

                1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

                  Or facts apparently. At least when team blue is involved.

                  1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                    Why do you even respond to my posts? You ignore what I say, tell me what I think, and then argue against what you made up.

                    1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

                      How did I ignore what you say? Can you even remember your own posts?

                      If not at least read them before making idiot accusations.

                    2. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                      When you argue with me about what I think and why I do things, you're arguing with yourself. That's why I have no use for you. You're a piece of shit on the same level as JesseAz. You weren't always this bad, but you've degenerated into a team troll. Fuck off.

                    3. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

                      That doesn't even make sense, Sarcasmic. I'd mock you for it, but I've no clue what you're trying to claim.

                  2. JesseAz   3 years ago

                    His vociferous defense and deflection from this story makes me wonder if the rumors about sarcs own life are true.

                2. Alayna Overbey   3 years ago

                  Hey remember how you spent 6 years peddling the lie that Trump colluded with Russia to steal the 2016 election?

                3. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

                  I am not assuming anything. I am telling you what the facts are as we know them and asking you to explain them consistent with Biden being innocent here. If you can't do that, just admit it. But stop insulting my intelligence by pretending I am assuming guilt when anyone reading the post can see I am not.

                  1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                    stop insulting my intelligence by pretending I am assuming guilt

                    Biden is a fucking degenerate who should be shot

                    Sure, dood. Whatevs.

                    1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

                      which part of "if that is true" do you not understand? Do you not know what the word "if" means?

                    2. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                      If the allegations are true, then yes the guy is even more of a slimeball than I thought.

                      However, women lie about this shit all the time.

                    3. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

                      Then explain to me why his daughter lied to her diary? Either they are true or she lied to her diary. Those are the choices. I can't think of a credible reason why she would have lied to her diary. Can you?

                    4. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                      I don't attempt to explain why anyone does anything.

                    5. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

                      "I don’t attempt to explain why anyone does anything."

                      YOU JUST FUCKING DID IN YOUR INITIAL CLAIM AT THE START OF THIS THREAD.

                      FFS read your own posts.

                    6. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

                      sarcasmic 23 mins ago
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                      I don’t attempt to explain why anyone does anything.

                      Really? I have an explanation. She was telling the truth like people nearly always do to their diaries. Why is that explanation wrong or not the most likely to be true?

                  2. JesseAz   3 years ago

                    I dont believe sarc has the reading comprehension capability of a 1sr grader. He is just a leftist because it is the only allies he has left. He can't wait for his jeff attaboys.

                    1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

                      Yeah, he's a lefty by affiliation rather than beliefs.

                    2. Super Scary   3 years ago

                      "However, women lie about this shit all the time."

                      Jesseaz, you should add this golden remark to your list of classic Sarcasmic quotes.

                    3. JesseAz   3 years ago (edited)

                      He will just claim no context even if I post the whole thread lol.

                      But saved.

                  3. JesseAz   3 years ago

                    Sarc attempts to explain what i do just a few posts higher lol. He does it all the time. He is just lying to cover for his defense of Biden.

            3. Alayna Overbey   3 years ago

              Interesting take coming from a guy who lost custody of his daughter based on credible accusations of child molestation by his ex-wife who he routinely calls a "cunt".

            4. Cyto   3 years ago

              The issue is how the media is handling it. En mass.

              It should make you really take pause and consider how free we are.

              By any rational measure, this is a huge story. Yet, nobody will touch it in any way. Targeting Veritas using the state is a huge story. The president being accused by his own daughter is a huge story.

              And not one network news director dares touch either one?

              Let that ruminate.

              This is not the first one. We have Epstein and the lolita express. Lots of suspiciously incurious national news outlets on that one. All those flights to the private island by the former Democrat president.... And no real story there?

              But that was just a former politician. So not as "in your face" despite the underage girls angle.

              The propaganda command and control is a major story that cannot be handwaved away as "similar interests". There are undoubtedly some hardcore feminists in these organizations who would be very enimated about these allegations. There are also some hardcore advocates for a free press.

              And yet....

              Not a single story from any of the major outlets. Not even one.

              Pravda didn't have that level of discipline.

              1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

                I understand why you wouldn't just print this story unless you really knew it was true. It is a grave allegation. The problem is the media refuses to even investigate it. Why are they not talking to the daughter and asking her if this is true? If she won't say anything, well you can't make her. But you have to ask. Why hasn't anyone asked the White House to explain all of this?

                That more than anything tells me it is all true. If it were not true, the media would have long ago gone to the White House, gotten an explanation, and ended this whole thing.

                1. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

                  Whether or not Biden raped his daughter isn't the story. The story is that Biden's government is suppressing the existence of the claims made in the diary and in the process have admitted that it is genuine. Ashley Biden is obviously a fucked up individual, another story the press is ignoring. It's possible even likely that her memory is faulty. The problem is that the media is engaged in a full on coverup. I would wager that the vast majority of the population doesn't even know that Joe Biden has a daughter.

              2. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                Yet all these stories are eventually covered in depth.

                Maybe the major media isn't a bunch of reactionary team players who run around like their hair is on fire whenever they hear something bad about the other team.

              3. JesseAz   3 years ago

                And PV even called the FBI to return the fucking diary. But are now being wrapped up under conspiracy charges despite not publishing it but reporting it to the feds.

              4. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

                Mulling it over, and connecting this with the @FearTheFoof thread above, it would seem to me that these journalists, politicians, and others all participate in the same things. It seems very fishy that none of them are interested in who was on Epstein's Lolita Air, unless they themselves were participants. Note how these journos have hidden their backgrounds above. I would wager that they are hiding what they do in their private lives as well. How many of them were in on it, flying with Epstein and others? Were it just Trump, they'd be all over it, like flies on a rib roast, but they're not. It's like they try to bury it six feet deep and never speak of it again. The only explanation I have is that they were there and participating in it. As for why the feminists and others in the organizations aren't speaking out? These are their bosses who did it, and will (and likely do) kill any story that might just touch them.

                1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

                  Your explanation is getting harder and harder to deny. If they are not guilty, they sure are acting like they are.

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

                    Personally, I deeply and truly hate conspiracy theories, but I keep getting stuck for explanations when I look at the whole thing. Why the silence? Why ignore what should be a big story? Why go after PV on Biden's daughter's diary, but not Biden himself?

                    I used to roll my eyes at those who said that there's a big pedo conspiracy amongst the rich and powerful. Now, I'm not so sure...

                    1. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

                      Yesterday's conspiracy theory is today's undeniable truth. If we didn't learn that during the Covid scam we never will. Like you I've been reluctant to buy into the whole organized pedophile/politician conspiracy. But yeah. It's getting harder to ignore.

                2. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                  Poor, persecuted conservatives. So sad. So unfair. Do you need a tissue?

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

                    Did you comprehend an iota of what I articulated? Or are you just spouting from the opening in your posterior again?

          2. DeAnnP   3 years ago

            One has to remember who is making the claim, Project Veritas of the Planned Parenthood expose where they made it look like they walked into the clinic dressed as a hooker and her pimp when they actually did not. Do I believe they have her diary, maybe. However with their dog shit credibility, if they do have it I would believe they found nothing of real interest in it so they made up a page that would get them the damaging effect they were hoping they had actually found.

            1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

              If the diary wasn't real, the FBI would have had no reason to take it or charge anyone with stealing. It is not PV making this claim. It is the FBI.

              The diary is real and it says what it says. There is no reason to think otherwise.

              1. DeAnnP   3 years ago

                I didn't say the diary wasn't real. I said the page that O'Douche claims the daughter wrote about showers was not real, that it was made up because he found nothing damaging in its real contents.

                1. JesseAz   3 years ago

                  is this worthy of FBI involvement? Why did they refuse to accept the diary when PV told them they had it? They could have verified it was a false entry. They chose not to admit it was real then called up the DoJ.

                2. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

                  Why would the diary be real but the page not be? The page was there when VR got it. There is no evidence the page was forged. You are just pulling that out of your ass.

                3. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago (edited)

                  Easy enough to find out. They could be forced to reveal what they have in discovery in a civil action. Ashley could sue PV if she’s been damaged. She and the rest of the Biden’s have been strangely silent on the topic. Kinda like Hunter’s laptop. To this day no one in the Biden government or the Biden family has denied that it is legitimate. Not even Hunter himself. And no one denies that the diary is real. Or any page from it.

            2. JesseAz   3 years ago

              The diary was posted by a Canadian news group...

              How does your example disprove their credibility?

              1. DeAnnP   3 years ago

                Did the Canadian news group obtain this diary from Project Veritas? If yes, then their credibility is only worth as much as the known scammer who provided it to them....

                1. JesseAz   3 years ago

                  No. They did not. They obtained it from the people trying to sell it to PV. It was shopped around for a month or two.

                  Your attacks against the truthfulness of the diary would be more credible if you knew the entire situation.

            3. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

              Not to forget Veritas' taking a not-very-bright postal worker and authoring an affidavit for him stating that he overheard scheming to tamper with mail-in votes. A claim he later recanted under questioning.

              1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

                If the diary is fake, why does the FBI think it is real?

                God you are stupid.

              2. JesseAz   3 years ago (edited)

                Recanted after being investigated by the State with threats for perjury. Lol. Hard to prove something overheard but they were going to charge him with lying.

                Lol.

                I mean they just found numerous undelivered mail ballots this fucking year 2 years later.

        3. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

          Corollary: Anyone who quotes the New York Times is a leftist who endorses every word the New York Times prints.

          Corollary: Anyone who quoted the FBI is a leftist who endorses every word the FBI says and every action the FBI takes.

          1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

            Here comes White Mike with an irrelevant comment in vain hope of helping sarcasmic stop self-immolating.

            1. Alayna Overbey   3 years ago

              In case any of you were wondering I finally remember whose sock Mike Laursen is. I don't think anyone here has been around that long, but it's Episiarch/MJGreen. It's hilarious if you google his old usernames and find his old comments how he literally uses the exact same phrases and verbal tics. These fucking autistic retards just can't help themselves.

              1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

                "Episiarch/MJGreen"

                Vaguely. I'll have to read the archives.

              2. Jerryskids   3 years ago

                I don't remember Episiarch sounding anything like Mike Laurson.

                1. mad.casual   3 years ago

                  Me either.

          2. JesseAz   3 years ago

            And Mike joins in on the strawman parade.

        4. Alayna Overbey   3 years ago

          I bet you're so mentally ill that you actually type this out fresh each time along with your SQRSLY copypastas.

      2. Cyto   3 years ago

        There was not a single major national news outlet that deemed this untouchable. All the major networkstalked about it at length. All the late night comedians did material on it.

        Yet...

        Real sexual contact between father and daughter as told by the daughter herself?

        Not a story? Really?

    2. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

      You knew the journal was real the day the FBI showed up at Project Veritas' door. Veritas to their credit never published the journal because they couldn't verify what it was. Had the journal been fake, Biden and by extension the FBI certainly would have known that because they just would have asked Biden's daughter. And the FBI has no reason to cease a fake journal held by a publication that refuses to publish it. They only showed up and took it because they knew it was real.

      What is interesting about this is why they didn't just have Biden's daughter lie and claim it wasn't hers. That would have ended the issue entirely. No amount of handwriting analysis and research into the diary's providence would have ever convinced the media or the public not to take her word that it wasn't hers.

      Yet, she wasn't willing to do that. Her being unwilling to lie for her father and allow a diary that says he is a child molesting pervert tells you everything you need to know about what she actually thinks of him. Given that he seems to be a child molesting pervert, I wouldn't think much of him if I were his daughter either.

      1. Cyto   3 years ago

        Continuing the theme of media criticism...

        They also completely ignore the actual, not imagined, assault on the free press by the administration. A crime that has no federal component... in which a journalist reports that he has been given this to the police and gives it to the police... Sees the FBI raid the journalists offices and home, siezed computers and phones and papers, including protected legal work product from pending litigation, and leak that work product to the other party on the case, along with other information.

        It does not get any more blatant than that.

        Yet.....

        Crickets.

        I thought we were so concerned about attacks on the free press that merely calling an outlet that is lying about you "fake news" was chilling and authoritarian and fascist. Where does the attack on Veritas by the FBI and DOJ rank? It is at least 10 orders of magnitude worse than "You're fake news". Yet none of the bastions of the fourth estate are even a little bit interested? Trying to frame people for crimes for merely _not_ reporting on documents leaked to them. You would think this would be of interest. It does directly impact their ability to do journalism, after all.

        Unless they know that they are protected for some reason, and are just fine with attacks on the free press that they know will never impact them...

        1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

          The fact that the FBI showed up at someone's door to seize a diary because it contained embarrassing information about the President might be the most disturbing thing that has happened in this Administration. Veritas called Biden's daughter's attorney and asked if it was real and offered to give it back to them if it was stolen. They never hid anything and were willing to give the diary back if it has been stolen. So why did the FBI show up to get it? To make it clear that the diary wasn't to be published. That is why. And no one in the major media or at reason is bothered by that.

          1. JesseAz   3 years ago

            Sadly it isnt even top 5 most disturbing things.

            1) a president being paraded woth obvious mental decline, and the administration openly conflicting with his public statements.

            2) weaponized doj going after pro life activists under vague laws because they lost a USSC ruling

            3) his capping energy destruction and reserves

            4) Afghanistan shit show.

            5) protection of his son by the DoJ and FBI

            1. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

              6. Destruction of US energy independence.
              7. A proxy war in Europe that serves no national interest.
              8. Trillion dollar playoffs to well connected constituents creating inflation not seen in 40 years.
              9. Overt censorship of political opponents.
              The list goes on but Ashley's diary probably doesn't even make the top ten.

        2. JesseAz   3 years ago

          PV is also now losing in courts for undercover reporting despite this being common by leftist activist groups for decades. With courts tossing laws disallowing the leftist groups to continue doing it.

        3. Jerryskids   3 years ago

          Keep in mind that Project Veritas isn't considered real journalism by the likes of the New York Times so freedom of the press doesn't enter into it. You have to be a left-wing courtier and water-carrier to be a real journalist.

    3. Longtobefree   3 years ago

      I suspect Bret Kavanaugh put him up to it - - - - - - - -

    4. Aloysious   3 years ago

      Is this where Reasonites insert “too local”?

      Yes.

      Also, 'That's different'.

    5. Fats of Fury   3 years ago

      I don't get how they were accused of stealing it, from what I read the daughter abandoned it at some rehab clinic.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

        That's my impression as well. Just like Hunter Biden abandoned his laptop. Seems to be a thing in the family.

        1. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

          Idiots just like the big guy.

          1. Fats of Fury   3 years ago

            Who knows? Maybe a cry for help.

            1. mad.casual   3 years ago

              Damn, shoulda refreshed.

          2. mad.casual   3 years ago

            IDK, I'm certainly no bleeding heart but it wouldn't surprise me at all of the next Biden-owned-item pulled out of the lost and found has "Help!" written on it.

            Per Briggs' comment above, she left her journal with details of how her father creeped on her as a teen at a rehab clinic and refused to disavow it as not hers or drug-fueled psychoses or depression-induced flights of fancy or anything else.

  39. Naime Bond   3 years ago

    In keeping with Reason's MO and mission statement, '....No one knows ...' should have read, until a Republican can be blamed, no one knows....

    1. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

      Good morning, commentariat! The Right-Wing Whining Network begins its day with a 50,000-watt signal to all our fellow right-wing whiners out there!

      1. Alayna Overbey   3 years ago

        It's just not fair that they take attention away from your pathetic snivel fest about the bad orange man who has been out of office for 2 years, right Episiarch?

      2. JesseAz   3 years ago

        Glad you finally stopped pretending you aren't a leftist. Any criticism of the left requires you to attack the right.

  40. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

    Envisioning how the ADU law is going to combine with the electric vehicle mandate:

    The existing residents of every main house as well as the resident of the ADU are going to have an electric vehicle plugged into a 220v outlet every night, all supported by the PG&E and Edison power grids. And the ADU resident’s car is going to be parked out front on the street, so every house will have a 220v extension cord running across the sidewalk at night?

    1. damikesc   3 years ago

      I do not get how a state with significant challenges supplying power expect to have fewer problems with a far higher use of energy.

      1. Mike Laursen   3 years ago (edited)

        It looks really bold and forward looking now, but I expect they will simply back off from the goal as it gets nearer and the reality sets in.

        Sadly, you can see the whole pattern of how it will probably go laid out in the high-speed rail boondoggle.

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  41. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

    The FBI would never lie about the murder rate to make things look better than they are. No, we will just never know what the real number is.

    Reason's sudden credulousness regarding the FBI has become high comedy.

  42. sarcasmic   3 years ago

    • A Polk County, Florida, police officer killed during a middle-of-the-night drug search was shot by fellow police officers.

    Fuck him. These middle-of-the-night raids are not done for officer safety. When the subject of the warrant is actually dangerous they wait until they take out the trash or check the mail. No, the raids are done in the middle of the night because cops enjoy terrorizing people, shooting dogs, and occasionally killing someone who refuses to put down the remote control. But it has absolutely nothing to do with officer safety. So fuck these terrorist assholes with badges. I hope they all die in a fire.

    1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

      These raids are incredibly dangerous and make officers more unsafe. It is not just the suspect shooting them. It is them shooting each other. Running around with loaded weapons in the dark in a high stress environment is dangerous. Who knew?

    2. Alayna Overbey   3 years ago

      All of them? Even the racist piece of shit capitol cops who shoot unarmed in the face when they aren't leaving their gun in the bathroom?

    3. Griffin3   3 years ago

      And they haven't charged the owner of the home with accessory murder, yet?

  43. mad.casual   3 years ago

    "This hyperlocal building boom might just spell the end of the American suburb as we know it—in the best possible way."

    I know it really shouldn't surprise me, but what is with the simultaneous revelry of culture and diversity and the celebration of the ending of a culture or passive social structure? I assume suburbs accommodate white flight or promote gentrification or slow the consolidation of centralized authority or all of the above, but the celebration of the end of them is just bizarre. Like, I think ocean front property is a bad idea but the idea that we'd "end beach front property in the best possible way" just seems like religious zealotry. Like Ron Bailey's earnest wish for "I can't believe anyone would think it's meat." products to replace ranching.

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

      There's always that murky alignment between people who reflexively hate the suburbs and the destruction of the nuclear family. Coincidence? I think not.

    2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

      What else is funny about the Sub-unit building in California is, the economic conditions are so horrible in California super-cities that sub-units are the ONLY way to build a structure. You want new housing? Sure, you'll live in someone's backyard.

    3. BestUsedCarSales   3 years ago

      Yeah. I grew up in the suburbs, and have also lived in a city. City living fits a lot of people, but it's no particular joy to me.
      The word "Hyperlocal" is ad-copy as well and so I hate that. Walkable is fine, even if it's buzzwordy. Hyperlocal is just ad-copy.

  44. Cyto   3 years ago

    Where are the reporters rant:

    We have a huge international story. The Nordic Pipeline sabotage. The question is, Whodunnit.

    Everyone assumed that it had to be done from a ship, with submersible or drones under water. But now there are reports of US military aircraft.

    There is publicly available information that might shed light on this. Flight information databases exist with flight tracks from radar.

    Someone has put stuff out there purporting to show US military jets circling the area and then making what looks like a bomb run with a release of a heavy munition. This could easily be Russian disinformation. Validating or disproving it should be easy enough for a national reporter.

    So...

    Where are the reporters? Is there not one real reporter who does original reporting anymore?

    1. creech   3 years ago

      The reporters are out covering Angelina Jolie's latest accusation about ex-husband, Brad Pitt. You know, covering serious news.
      Who cares if nuclear war looms, when you can read about Meghan Markle and the Royal Twits' feuds?

    2. Longtobefree   3 years ago

      Those aircraft were US anti-submarine patrols trying to prevent the Russian attack!

    3. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

      As I stated before, no one is even interested in looking at it, because the likely culprit is too awful for the Journalist class to consider.

    4. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

      Honestly on a geopolitical scale this could very easily match that whole Franz Ferdinand kerfuffle. This is serious shit but the media blackout is complete. It's going to be a long cold winter in Europe and Ukraine is a bloody trench war. China and the BRICS are keeping their powder dry for the moment but if the Neocons get their way they'll have to choose a side. This could get very ugly and we are knee deep.

  45. Yatusabes   3 years ago

    ENB is in denial on this issue.

    Blacks are the leading group of offenders in violent crime, Whites are the leading group as victims. This in spite of Blacks are the 3rd largest minority group, comprising 12.7% of the US Population.

    Blacks are the problem per FBI data. ENB is part of the problem.

    https://crime-data-explorer.app.cloud.gov/pages/explorer/crime/crime-trend

    FBI Crime Data Explorer: All Violent Crime Offender vs. Victim Demographics

    Offender Race
    Sort By: Category
    Black or African American: 609,102 (44.37%)
    White: 599,046 (43.64%)
    Unknown: 134,122
    American Indian or Alaska Native: 19,286 (1.40%)
    Asian: 11,067 (0.80%)
    Total: 1,372,623

    Victim Race
    Sort By: Category
    White: 827,249 (55.76%)
    Black or African American: 558,528 (37.65%)
    Unknown: 54,141 (3.64%)
    Asian: 22,637 (1.52%)
    American Indian or Alaska Native: 20,881 (1.40%)
    Total: 1,483,436

    Whites comprise 61.6%, Hispanics 18.7%, Blacks 12.4% of the US Population per US Census 2020 data

    https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2021/08/improved-race-ethnicity-measures-reveal-united-states-population-much-more-multiracial.html

    1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

      Maybe if we were willing to be honest and admit the fact that the black community has a huge problem with social dysfunction and criminality especially among young, black males, we could take some positive steps towards solving the problem? I seem to remember hearing somewhere about how the first step to solving a problem is admitting it exists. Instead, we just deny reality and hope that in doing so the problem will magically go away if we just wish hard enough.

      1. creech   3 years ago

        The "black community" must step forward with the admission and their solutions. If it comes from the white community, all will be dismissed as racism, hate, and white supremacy.

        1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

          This is true. You would think at some point they would get tired of seeing their children murdered or ending up in prison and want something done about it.

        2. Social Justice is neither   3 years ago

          We've already seen their solution: blame Whitey and demand reparations in some form or other.

      2. JesseAz   3 years ago

        Uncle Tom II explores the take over of black culture by marxism.

      3. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

        Remember when Jesse Jackson said he'd cross the street if he saw a group of young black men coming his way? Good times.

    2. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

      The Bolsheviks destroyed the black family in america, and it was deliberate.

      Others are next.

  46. Unicorn Abattoir   3 years ago

    The New York City and Los Angeles police departments didn't report at all.

    Philly had the most murders in its history in 2021, and is on track to beat it this year. It's already beaten it's carjacking record from last year, with 3 months to go. All of this in a city that's lost about 25% of its population from its peak.

    I think it's safe to say murders have gone up in NYC and LA too.

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

      And Seattle.

      And that's from the Seattle Times which is rather famous for downplaying ANY trend which puts Seattle in a bad light, because as a news organization, they endorsed and cheered on every policy put forth by the city apparatus. It isn't until the problem gets so bad the Times is forced to switch to "Ok, it's happening, but it's not as bad as you say" etc.

      1. Fats of Fury   3 years ago (edited)

        Compared to Chicago that’s very low. We’re only 6 days into October and here’s the stats from https://heyjackass.com/,
        October To Date Shot & Killed: 8
        Shot & Wounded: 41
        Total Shot: 49
        Total Homicides: 8

        Year To Date Shot & Killed: 502
        Shot & Wounded: 2341
        Total Shot: 2843
        Total Homicides: 555

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

          Yep, it’s a war zone up there, inside the Tri-State. Lori’s lost control of almost everything and managed to become a bigger disaster than Bilandic in a blizzard.

  47. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

    For instance, in terms of homicides actually recorded in 2021, we're looking at 13,537 incidents, reported by 11,794 law enforcement agencies using the NIBRS system last year. This is up from 9,630 homicides reported through NIBRS in 2020. But in 2020, only 9,993 agencies submitted NIBRS data. And while agencies reporting homicides in 2021 covered 64-65 percent of the population, agencies reporting in 2020 covered just 53 percent.

    In 2019, NIBRS data covered only 47 percent of the population; in 2018, just 40 percent; and in 2017, just 33 percent. In 2012 it was just 29 percent, in 2002 just 20 percent, and in 1992 just 6 percent.

    One could accurately say that there has been an enormous spike in homicides recorded through NIBRS data. But this tells us nothing about the number of homicides actually happening.

    McBride also notes that "there are no checks and balances on the gathering of this data. No third party routinely audits law enforcement agencies to ensure they are counting crimes accurately.

    So what you're saying is, declaring 2020-2021 the most accurate, secure crime reporting in American history might be hard to prove, considering how differently things are done in every district, and the lack of good auditing from district to district.

    1. mad.casual   3 years ago

      Also, despite the "most but not bestest ever" reporting muddying the waters, the conclusions about white supremacy and AAPI discrimination that we've been feeding into an LEO-UCR/NIBRS Report-Civil Rights Organization feedback loop for over two decades is rock solid and should not be questioned.

      1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

        Racism and hate are on the rise. The trend is clear.

  48. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

    • The Colorado baker whose refusal to make a gay couple's wedding cake landed him before the U.S. Supreme Court is now challenging a ruling that he violated Colorado law by refusing to bake a gender transition celebration cake. (More background on the current case here and here.)

    Missed opportunity to make a Penis-shaped cake for the lulz when they have to cut it into pieces.

    1. Moonrocks   3 years ago

      I imagine he reserves those for circumcisions.

    2. Social Justice is neither   3 years ago

      Or provide them with an empty box and tell them it represents their penis/breasts and is high art.

  49. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

    One of the silliest ideas to infect mainstream journalism in recent years is the notion that when journalists produce work about a bad person, they must signpost that work, seemingly every moment, with explicit indicators that that person is bad…

    To be sure...

  50. A Thinking Mind   3 years ago

    Don't know how many people here are aware of Nick Rekieta, but he's very libertarian and his youtube channel was deleted. The last straw was when he took people who filed public complaints to the Minnesota Bar Association, in an attempt to get him disbarred, and he read the complaints. He redacted addresses and e-mails but kept the names visible.

    It's such bullshit to attack someone for simply naming the people who are trying to destroy him. He said "Don't do anything to these people. Don't seek them out, don't harass them. But laugh at how pathetic they are while in your own space."

    It's important to remember that mob violence is not just "The free market." A small group of people weaponizing the fact that they have unlimited free time and nothing better to do than harass and flag people they don't like in an attempt to get them removed, they aren't representing the market.

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago (edited)

      Yep, been following this one around the edges. Happened last night.

      Which puts me in mind of something that’s been bugging me since yesterday. Reason snickered about how most of the ‘alt’ platforms have had to censor too,' it’s a lot trickier when YOU’RE running the platform' they crowed, so suck it Trumpers, everyone’s censoring rotflolwtfomg!

      I didn’t make a comment in the thread at the time because I hadn’t fully formed my thoughts on the subject, but now I have and frankly, that claim is flat fucking bullshit, demonstrably and empirically untrue.

      I can think of dozens (and if I researched could probably find hundreds if not thousands) of creators, let alone individual tweets or videos bringing the number of incidents into the thousands (if not tens of thousands) who have been canceled, deplatformed, demonetized, had videos struck, blocked or straight up removed from the major platforms that still exist in their ORIGINAL form and are in perfectly good standing on other platforms.

      So just because Rumble or Gab or Parler has to remove the occasional death threat or child porn, they’re NOT censoring people for linking to a study on Ivermectin, or pointing out that their husband was literally killed by the vaccine– and that fact confirmed by the British government..

      All of those people are still operating on the alternate platforms with their original ‘tweets’ or videos still up and viewable. Merely pointing out that an alt platform “censored” something without pointing out the scope and nature of that censorship is being willfully ignorant.

      1. A Thinking Mind   3 years ago

        The only issues a platform like Rumble is dealing with is that youtube has a 12 year headstart. There's a lot of channels I follow on youtube, and some of those are also on Rumble. I can't get rid of my youtube because I'd lose a lot of channels I'm interested in watching.

        Of course, youtube is in a unique position. They operated at a loss for years because they Google/Alphabet money behind them, and were interested in market capture. They killed off other platforms like blip tv and Veoh (and pushed Dailymotion into obscurity, though it's still around somehow). But eventually youtube had to try to turn a profit and it's unable to stop platforms like Rumble and Odysee from replicating their business model.

        The only thing youtube has is being mainstream enough that everyone is aware of it, and every smartphone comes ready to refer you to youtube or even has the youtube app pre-installed. They win by incestuous relationships with other tech companies. But they're not doing something that can't be replicated and done better in other places.

      2. Social Justice is neither   3 years ago

        There is also the issue of things like Googleplay demanding censorship for access to their distribution network for legal products that is a monopoly for such things.

    2. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

      Read a long piece the other day about the destruction of Kiwi Farms. Pretty terrifying the power these people have.

  51. CFred   3 years ago

    There was a period of a few years in the 90's where a combination of hosting the regional mall, a lot of different housing, and a spike in gas drive offs caused our, relatively small, municipality to have the highest per Capita crime rate in NYS.

    This looked bad to the Mayor & council so our Chief was told to do something about it.

    Felony Burglaries became Misdemeanor Larcenies if the suspect had ever been given permission to enter the residence. Gas drive offs became “general” complaints unless the victim could show the driver intended to leave without paying. We no longer made shoplifting arrests at the mall for anything less than $1000. We took statements and handled the paperwork, but required the store to file charges directly with the DA so it went into the county stats instead of ours.

    Needless to say, our reported crime rate quickly dropped.

  52. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

    This is how interns at other libertarian publications write:

    Bobby, the main character played by Eichner, hosts a podcast on LGBT history. He wins an award for ‘Best Cis Male Gay Man’ and he later gets a job as a curator for a new National LGBTQ+ History Museum in New York. The museum later faces a boycott because one of its exhibits suggests that Abraham Lincoln was gay. When one character says, ‘You can’t say Lincoln was gay’, Bobby responds: ‘If we don’t do this, we’re letting the heterosexual terrorists win.’ It’s a joke, of course. But one that is straining far too hard to make a point.

    The trailer, which shows this argument, has six dislikes for every like on YouTube. Even just this three-minute snippet contains a whole host of woke talking points. ‘Remember straight people?’, says Bobby, ‘They had a nice run’. Unfortunately for Eichner, the same will not be said of Bros.

    Then there is the marketing and the press coverage. The Hollywood press is at pains to emphasise that Bros is a film made about gay men and for gay men. ‘Make no mistake, Bros is a very gay movie’, says one enthusiastic reviewer. ‘Billy Eichner’s very gay Bros trailer has radicalised me’, says another sympathetic critic. Instead of stressing any universal, human qualities in the story, virtually all of the coverage has put its identitarian niche to the fore.

    It is as if the filmgoers – made up mainly of those dreaded straights – are expected to go to the cinema in order to affirm their allegiance to an oppressed identity group. To ‘show up for Bros’, as Eichner puts it. Of course, very few people choose which films to watch on this basis. They are at the cinema to be entertained, not to demonstrate their support for an identity group.

    Laurie Wastell is an intern at spiked.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

      I just cannot fathom how this movie got such a lack of returns at the box office.

      1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago (edited)

        ‘Remember straight people?’, says Bobby, ‘They had a nice run’. Unfortunately for Eichner, the same will not be said of Bros.

        I can’t remember who said it, some personality on one of the evening talking-head shows (a black man) made note of the above and said, “I’m imagining I’m watching a trailer for a movie and the tagline is 'Your time is up, negroes'… I’m not gonna see that movie."

    2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   3 years ago

      ‘Remember straight people?’, says Bobby, ‘They had a nice run’.

      Procreators. They just ruin it for everyone already here.

    3. BestUsedCarSales   3 years ago

      It's too bad too, I kind of like Billy Eichner.

      1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

        I hadn't heard of him until recently (mainly due to this movie) and from the clips I've seen, the dude seems like a colossal douchenozzle. And he seems to have a lot of hate in his soul.

        1. BestUsedCarSales   3 years ago

          Yes, but his early stuff was channeling that towards being humorously obnoxious. Billy on the Street era Eichner.

    4. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

      A film about gay men for gay men.
      Yeah I'm cool with that but I don't fit the demographic. Can I just mail in the cost of a ticket or do I have to sit through a 2 hour movie? I mean I really want to signal my virtue somehow.

  53. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   3 years ago

    Let's check out this AI Bill of Rights:

    Users should be “protected from unsafe or ineffective” automated systems, and tools should be expressly “designed to proactively protect you from harms.”

    That sounds like Asimov's first law of robotics, "A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm." I wonder what Biden's second rule right is...

    Discriminatory uses of algorithms and other AI should be prohibited and tools should be developed with an emphasis on equity.

    Hmm. Sounds more like an AlGorethm. "A robot may not offend a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to be offended." An objectively impossible goal seeing that the purpose of AI is to analyze outcomes and learn by comparing its predictions to reality. You would have to program it to lie to itself when it came to the inevitable conclusion that there are many key indicators of who will thrive and who will fail given the same set of initial resources.

    That causes me to glitch. They started with Asimov to suck people in, but the guys who wrote this are much closer in spirit to HAL's programmers.

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

      Discriminatory uses of algorithms and other AI should be prohibited and tools should be developed with an emphasis on equity.

      Thank you for clicking through.

      Under normal circumstances, this alone would get a 3000 word writeup in a libertarian magazine, and the coverage would not be favorable. I'll be watching my go-to libertarian source to see what they have to say about it.

    2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

      That causes me to glitch. They started with Asimov to suck people in, but the guys who wrote this are much closer in spirit to HAL’s programmers.

      HAL's programmers if they were marxists.

  54. Bill Dalasio   3 years ago

    No One Knows.

    Bovine fecal matter. Pretty much everyone knows. They just want to pretend, like animists that, if they refrain from naming that which everyone knows, nobody will know it and it will go away. The FBI and administration don't want to know because that would cast poor light on their performance. Reason doesn't want to know because they're afraid that worsening crime data will dissuade people from "libertarian" reform. But, if your reforms aren't giving you favorable results, maybe you need to look for better reforms.

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

      No problem with any of your comment, but I literally don't get this line.

      They just want to pretend, like animists that, if they refrain from naming that which everyone knows

      I'm not trying to trap you into an argument, I just literally don't know what this means.

      1. Bill Dalasio   3 years ago

        It's a phenomenon I've seen becoming more common. People think that if you don't name reality, reality doesn't exist. So, you have situations where something is widely known. But, the leadership class acts as if stating what is widely known is the sin. But, this sort of goes to ancient thinking that reality is controlled by its naming, by acknowledging its existence.

        1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

          Ah, ok. I definitely get that. Maybe I took 'animsts' more literally. Like Shinto in the Japanese culture... the idea that every object contains a spirit or has a soul of some kind. Like how the Samurai believed their soul was in their sword etc.

        2. BestUsedCarSales   3 years ago

          Ah, interesting. Yeah, I have seen an increase in a Taboo as a concept. But in it's original form, which is as you say.

  55. Richard Rider   3 years ago (edited)

    Since our country “woke” in 2020 or so, accuracy and honesty are now secondary considerations. What is important is supporting the progressive narrative. Part of that narrative is that one simply can no longer collect crime stats by race, let alone report and analyze the results.

    Looking at the last honest (2020) figures (imperfect figures but comprehensive), blacks — with 12.1% of the nation’s population — committed about 58% of all our nation’s murders. Over 85% of the victims of these black murderers were themselves black.

    As far as I know, this information has never been reported by any government agency, or by any MSM news outlet. This is a murder rate several times higher than whites AND Hispanics — and close to THIRTY times higher than Asians.

    In my San Diego County, we have almost 3.4 million people — more people than 22 states. I’ve tracked our county violent crime stats (but no longer — the data is no longer available).

    Using that criteria for the 2019 crime stats (latest available), we find that — compared to the average rate for all the other races — with 4.4% of the San Diego County population — per capita: * Blacks committed murders 6.9 TIMES more frequently than the rest of the county population. * Blacks committed rapes 6.9 TIMES more frequently than everyone else. * Blacks committed robberies 13.9 TIMES more frequently than everyone else. * Blacks committed aggravated assaults 5.8 TIMES more frequently than everyone else.

    I wrote a column detailing these facts, and then was banned from the SAN DIEGO U-T as a racist. Here’s the more detailed column with sources:https://riderrants.blogspot.com/2020/07/all-black-lives-matter-but-not-to-blm.html

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

      I'll check your linked article out here in a bit. But the title of it reminded me of this.

      The Case Against Black Lives Matter with Bevelyn Beatty

      Bevelyn Beatty is the black woman who was arrested for painting over the BLM slogan in New York. She's a bit of an inspiration. She's clearly working class and grew up hard with what seems like minimal education, but she has an obvious scintillating intellect. Like Harvard Graduates would debate her at their peril.

      1. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

        The lady is afflicted with common sense. She must be cancelled.

    2. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

      OK. What is our takeaway about black people supposed to be, then?

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      4. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

        It's simple numbers. These are stats. Make of them what you will. A lot of people just pretend these facts dont exist. Those people are called "leftists"

        1. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

          Actually nobody wants to say it out loud. But everybody knows what's going on. We know they are lying. They know we know they are lying. We know they know we know they are lying. And on into infinity.

        2. Sevo   3 years ago

          Or fucking lefty piles of ignorant shit.

  56. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

    The Colorado baker whose refusal to make a gay couple's wedding cake landed him before the U.S. Supreme Court is now challenging a ruling that he violated Colorado law by refusing to bake a gender transition celebration cake. (More background on the current case here and here.)

    the communist will never stop. It cannot be reasoned with . It cannot be bargained with. And it absolutely will not stop until you are destroyed.

    They literally cant just leave this baker alone . They lay awake at night shivering with hatred and plotting the next move to destroy him.

    1. BestUsedCarSales   3 years ago

      Wokism is very totalitarian. We throw that word around a lot, but the main point of it is a requirement of everyone working together in tandem towards the same goals and with the same beliefs.

  57. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

    The White House has released an artificial intelligence "bill of rights."

    Before even reading this I can assure you it's a singular bit of nonsense.

  58. Utkonos   3 years ago

    You know what else rose in 2021?

  59. Patrick Trombly   3 years ago

    This will sound cynical, but you'd think that the number of murders would decline over time, as (1) there is a finite number of people who are capable of committing murder, and some of them are caught, convicted and incarcerated, and (2) there is a finite number of people who are, in the eyes of the amoral and immoral, worth killing, and each murder reduces that number.

    Population growth should only partially offset these factors.

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