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LAPD Officer Killed During Training Exercise Was Reportedly Investigating Cops Accused of Gang Rape

Plus: The Onion weighs in on qualified immunity case, Supreme Court rejects challenges to bump stock ban, and more...

Elizabeth Nolan Brown | 10.4.2022 9:30 AM

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"I think murder is what occurred." The family of a Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) officer killed during a training exercise is suing the department for wrongful death. The officer, Houston Tipping, was 32 years old; he died during a Los Angeles Police Academy bicycle training exercise last May. The family's lawyer now says one of the other officers involved in the exercise was under investigation for sexual assault—and that Tipping had taken the incident report.

"I'm certainly alleging that at least one officer engaged in an abuse of force in order to try and scare or harm Officer Tipping in order to prevent him from investigating a claim of rape," the lawyer, Bradley Gage, said at a Monday press conference.

According to Gage, Tipping had been searching for a job outside of the LAPD at the time of his death. The training at which he sustained injuries "was supposed to be bicycle training," but somehow wound up entailing the "grappling exercise" that the LAPD says killed him.

Tipping's mother, Shirley Huffman, claims in her complaint that Tipping died during an exercise meant to "to simulate a mob" attack. The complaint alleges that Tipping's death was the product of "intentional acts."

But a county medical examiner ruled Tipping's death an accident, saying the suspicious injuries revealed in the autopsy were sustained during attempts to save his life.

This is not surprising because we already know that coroners and medical examiners - who work more closely with police departments than even prosecutors - undercount police killings by more than 50%. https://t.co/mLZYOvsP2j

— Rebecca Kavanagh (@DrRJKavanagh) October 4, 2022

"Officer Tipping did not sustain any laceration to the head" and "was also not struck or beaten during this training session," Police Chief Michel Moore told the LAPD Board of Police Commissioners in June. "He did grapple with another officer, and both fell to the ground, resulting in a catastrophic injury to his spinal cord."

Gage claims that Tipping wound up with three broken ribs, a lacerated liver, head injuries, and a broken neck. "His heart eventually stopped working because of his injuries" and "he was paralyzed….He had subdural hematomas at three places on the left side and three places on the right side. There is no way that grappling would have caused those injuries the way the LAPD portrayed it."

Gage also offered startling new allegations at yesterday's press conference.

"In July 2021, four police officers were involved in the sexual assault of a woman in the Los Angeles area," Gage said. "A report was taken by officer Tipping, and I've seen that report. And…the female victim claimed that she was raped by four different people, all LAPD officers."

The name of one of the officers accused of rape "seems to correlate with one of the officers that was at the bicycle training," said Gage, alleging that the officer in question was the one who hurt Tipping.

Gage could not confirm that the officer accused of rape was the officer directly engaged in the training exercise with Tipping. But he said "our investigation indicates that yes, it was." He added that the LAPD said no video footage of the training exercise exists, even though these sorts of trainings are often recorded.

In response to questions from a reporter, Gage said he thinks "murder is what occurred."

You can watch Gage's whole press conference here.


FREE MINDS

"The Onion's professional parodists were less than enthralled to be confronted with a legal ruling that fails to hold government actors accountable for jailing and prosecuting a would-be humorist simply for making fun of them."

????Excited to share that @TheOnion has filed the best amicus brief I've ever read in favor of @IJ's cert petition in Novak v. Parma. Novak challenges the 6th Cir's use of #QualifiedImmunity to deny #FreeSpeech protections to a parodist. 1/ @SCOTUSblog https://t.co/cdnh8FUAZj pic.twitter.com/xGAGUABNsU

— Patrick Jaicomo (@pjaicomo) October 3, 2022

From the brief:

Americans can be put in jail for poking fun at the government? This was a surprise to America's Finest News Source and an uncomfortable learning experience for its editorial team. Indeed, "Ohio Police Officers Arrest, Prosecute Man Who Made Fun of Them on Facebook" might sound like a headline ripped from the front pages of The Onion—albeit one that's considerably less amusing because its subjects are real. So, when The Onion learned about the Sixth Circuit's ruling in this case, it became justifiably concerned.

First, the obvious: The Onion's business model was threatened. This was only the latest occasion on which the absurdity of actual events managed to eclipse what
The Onion's staff could make up. Much more of this, and the front page of The Onion would be indistinguishable from The New York Times.

Second, The Onion regularly pokes its finger in the eyes of repressive and authoritarian regimes, such as the Islamic Republic of Iran, the Democratic People's Republic of North Korea, and domestic presidential administrations. So The Onion's professional parodists were less than enthralled to be confronted with a legal ruling that fails to hold government actors accountable for jailing and prosecuting a would-be humorist simply for making fun of them.

Third, the Sixth Circuit's ruling imperils an ancient form of discourse. The court's decision suggests that parodists are in the clear only if they pop the balloon in advance by warning their audience that their parody is not true. But some forms of comedy don't work unless the comedian is able to tell the joke with a straight face. Parody is the quintessential example. Parodists intentionally inhabit the rhetorical form of their target in order to exaggerate or implode it—and by doing so demonstrate the target's illogic or absurdity.

Put simply, for parody to work, it has to plausibly mimic the original. The Sixth Circuit's decision in this case would condition the First Amendment's protection for parody upon a requirement that parodists explicitly say, up-front, that their work is nothing more than an elaborate fiction. But that would strip parody of the very thing that makes it function.


FREE MARKETS

The U.S. Supreme Court won't hear challenges to bump stock bans. From the Associated Press:

The cases the justices declined to hear were an appeal from a Utah gun rights advocate and another brought by the gun rights group Gun Owners of America and others. As is typical the justices made no comments in declining to hear the cases and they were among many the court rejected Monday, the first day of the court's new term.

The Trump administration's ban on bump stocks took effect in 2019 and came about as a result of the 2017 mass shooting in Las Vegas. The gunman, a 64-year-old retired postal service worker and high stakes gambler, used assault-style rifles to fire more than 1,000 rounds in 11 minutes into the crowd of 22,000 music fans. Most of the rifles were fitted with bump stock devices and high-capacity magazines.

More here.

The Supreme Court has also "declined to address Georgia laws that have kept third-party candidates off election ballots in the state for decades," reports Reason's Joe Lancaster*.


QUICK HITS

• The Supreme Court has announced nine new cases that it will hear:

NEW: SCOTUS agrees to take up NINE new cases, including Gonzalez v. Google, involving the scope of tech companies' immunity under Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act. The order list is not yet posted on the court's website, but here is a link: https://t.co/15KDnQUL2R

— SCOTUSblog (@SCOTUSblog) October 3, 2022

• Reason's Scott Shackford has more details about the Section 230 case that SCOTUS is taking on.

• Doctors worry that in vitro fertilization will get swept up in abortion bans.

• "The U.K. government backtracked on a key part of its broad tax-cut plan after facing a backlash from financial markets and a rebellion in its own ranks," notes The Wall Street Journal.

• Travis Cole, who is black, alleges that he was "fully restrained in a chair when a white sheriff's sergeant in Boulder County, Colorado, used a Taser on him," reports NBC. Cole has now filed a federal lawsuit. "The sergeant who deployed the stun gun, Christopher Mecca, resigned in the wake of the incident in lieu of termination and was arrested on misdemeanor counts of third-degree assault and official misconduct," NBC adds. "A jury convicted him in December 2021 and he was sentenced to probation."

• "The U.S. government imprisoned a former slave and pioneering civil rights activist named Callie House in 1917 on bogus federal mail fraud charges. A group of modern scholars and civil rights activists are now urging President Joe Biden to right that historical wrong by issuing a posthumous pardon to officially clear House's name," reports Reason's Damon Root.


*CORRECTION: This piece previously attributed this reporting to the wrong author.

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    LAPD Officer Killed During Training Exercise Was Reportedly Investigating Cops Accused of Gang Rape

    It's an efficient gang they're running over there.

    1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      Raping and killing.
      It’s always wise to diversify.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        The the bicycle thing is a nice bit of green-washing.

        1. Ajsloss   3 years ago

          They aren't totally evil.

          1. R Mac   3 years ago

            It was a carbon neutral murder.

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      2. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

        Diversity is our strength, or so I'm told.

      3. But SkyNet is a Private Company   3 years ago

        He’s King Kong

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    2. TheReEncogitationer   3 years ago

      It's not just in L.A. where cops run the place by whim. In Charlotte, NC, Mecklenburg County, the Sheriff's Office sets up released inmates with their own businesses and picks and chooses which traffic laws to enforce and upon whom:

      Sheriff’s office partners with nonprofit to help inmates become entrepreneurs
      Peace4Poverty will provide training in financial literacy, mental health support, and practical tools to aid them in becoming business owners.
      https://qcitymetro.com/2022/09/26/sheriffs-office-partners-with-nonprofit-to-help-inmates-become-entrepreneurs/

      MCSO changes policy to address racial disparities in traffic stops
      https://www.qcnews.com/crime-and-public-safety/mcso-changes-policy-to-address-racial-disparities-in-traffic-stops/

      1. TheReEncogitationer   3 years ago

        Mind you, as a Libertarian, I am against seat-belt laws applied to adults, helmet laws for motorcycles, and mandatory air-bags and I agree that speed limits need to be rationally set and the number of requirements too be street-legal should be minimal.

        But if laws are tyrannical, unjust, and stupid, repeal them for everybody. Don't selectively enforce or unenforce them!

        1. A Thinking Mind   3 years ago

          against seat-belt laws applied to adults

          Clearly too much of a statist if you're okay with it for children. The custodian of a child is their parent, not the state.

          1. Heedless   3 years ago

            That’s a tough one. Parents don’t own their children in the way that they own themselves. As an extreme example, it should be legal for a man to play Russian roulette with his wife (assuming they both consent) but not with his 10 year old son. There are some sorts of actions and some sorts of risks to which children are incapable of meaningful consent. As a first pass we defer to the parents, but that does not mean that their authority in this matter is absolute.

            Child welfare is simply in unbridgeable gap in Rothbardian analysis. We have to choose between giving children the same level of autonomy and self ownership as adults, giving the parents control, or deferring to the state. The first option is absurd, the second option is a violation of the principle of self ownership, and the third option is the same but in a different direction.

            1. TheReEncogitationer   3 years ago

              Besides, I wouldn't trust Murray Rothbard with an ant farm, especially in his latter days when he was so desperate to make everybody a Libertarian ally from The Black Panthers to David Duke.

              1. Heedless   3 years ago

                Ha! Personally I tend to view Rothbard a little in the same light that I view the seventh day Adventists: he was a fundamentalist taking an overly literal reading of scripture in very strange directions.

                But if you want to argue with an ancap, you gotta speak their language.

                1. TheReEncogitationer   3 years ago

                  I like to think I'm staunch about Individual Rights and the NAP/NIFF Principle too, but I also know they only have application with competent rational beings and children are only competent, rational beings in the making.

                  Good parents and guardians gently but firmly restrain a child from harm's way until the child learns how to deal with danger alone.

                  And likewise goes with children doing potential harm to innocent third parties. A child needs to be taught respect for Individual Rights and the NAP/NIFF Principle, as well as how to uphold these principles for self-preservation too.

                  I'm no expert on child care and development except for being a child once, but this just seems to make sense.

          2. TheReEncogitationer   3 years ago

            And as custodians, it is the job of parents to keep kids out of harm's way until they can do it themselves especially inside 2000+ pound bullets of plastic, rubber, glass, and steel that are used daily and whose accidents kill far more than airplanes.

            If I were a parent, the idea of using infant safety seats and having older children (and indeed all passengers) in my vehicle to "Be Like Peoole Who Do Buckle Up" just wouldn't even rate as an imposition.

        2. NOYB2   3 years ago

          But if laws are tyrannical, unjust, and stupid, repeal them for everybody. Don’t selectively enforce or unenforce them!

          I have it on good authority from Reason writers that selective tax breaks, one-sided open borders, and unidirectional barrier-free trading make us all more libertarian!

          1. TheReEncogitationer   3 years ago

            Good authority, you say? I'd never use that in the same sentence with most Reason writers. 🙂

  2. JesseAz   3 years ago

    DHS and State are working with universities during election time to censor "misinformation" including directly against politicians.

    The consortium of four private entities, led by Stanford and University of Washington research centers, mass-reported alleged misinformation for 100 days before the election and about two weeks after, targeting Just the News among other news organizations. It claimed a success rate of 35% for content removal, labeling and "soft-blocking."
    .
    CISA and the DHS-funded Elections Infrastructure Information Sharing and Analysis Center, as well as the State Department's Global Engagement Center and the Democratic National Committee, could also submit misinformation "tickets" through the consortium to tech platforms.

    Reason is still eating JTN links. Headline is: Federally backed censorship machine raises separation of powers, election meddling questions

    1. Griffin3   3 years ago

      It claimed a success rate of 35% for content removal, labeling and “soft-blocking.”

      So sure are they of being in the right, they openly tout their "success rate". Fun.

    2. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

      MuH pRivAtE cOMpaNy!!

  3. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    The U.S. Supreme Court won't hear challenges to bump stock bans.

    TRUMP WINS AGAIN

    1. Unable2Reason   3 years ago

      I guess I'll just have to stick with my finger in my belt loop.

  4. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

    Travis Cole, who is black, alleges that he was "fully restrained in a chair when a white sheriff's sergeant…..

    Skin color is the most important thing

    1. Anomalous   3 years ago

      Ignoring race is racist.

      1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

        Are we saying MLK was racist?

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago (edited)

          Actually, yes. The question then is, was he a "good" racist?

        2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

          Yes, MLK Jr = racist.

          Herschel Walker = not racist. He is a "good one".

          Read it on wingnut.com.

          1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

            Shrike wants you to think he's being ironic...

            1. HorseConch   3 years ago

              Ironic, moronic, what difference does it make?

              1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

                In Shrike's case, it's just moronic.

          2. Overt   3 years ago

            A few years back SPB posted kiddy porn to this site, and his initial handle was banned. The link below details all the evidence surrounding that ban. A decent person would honor that ban and stay away from Reason. Instead SPB keeps showing up, acting as if all people should just be ok with a kiddy-porn-posting asshole hanging around. Since I cannot get him to stay away, the only thing I can do is post this boilerplate.

            https://reason.com/2022/08/06/biden-comforts-the-comfortable/?comments=true#comment-9635836

            Don't respond to SPB, just shun him

          3. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

            Pedo is salty that a black man is thinking for himself and leaving the Marxist plantation. Pedo also apparently can't understand sarcasm.

            1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   3 years ago

              Pedo was also salty that the victim was too old.

              1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                Why do you have to lick everything? That's gross.

          4. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

            Go back to your NAMBLA meeting, pedo.

          5. Sevo   3 years ago

            turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit. Everything turd posts is a lie, except accidentally.
            Fuck off and die, turd

          6. R Mac   3 years ago

            Turn yourself in for your crimes against children.

        3. Hank Ferrous   3 years ago

          There are progressives who state that King was an Uncle Tom, 'high yellow,' and any of the other assorted racist tropes. Not surprisingly, many of these fuckwits are white, but feel justified in their bigotry because of their proud antiracist cred.

          1. Ignore me!   3 years ago

            High yellow? Seriously? People like these seriously need a righteous beatdown or two.

      2. MoreFreedom   3 years ago (edited)

        Ignoring race is being color blind, which helps judge a person by their character rather than relying on stereotypes where one uses the person’s race to make judgements about the person. Thus, you’re saying not paying attention to race is racist.

        You’re post is just Orwellian gaslighting that contradicts itself. Brings to mind Voltaire’s observation that those who can make you believe in absurdities, can make you engage in atrocities.

        Seems as if you’re a sadist looking forward to committing some atrocities. I also hope you’re also a masochist when you become a victim in the race war you started, because then you’ll enjoy your death. In a way, it’s Darwinism in action, though IMHO with those kind of thoughts, you're already dead as far as being a caring human.

      3. voluntaryist   3 years ago

        Focusing on race, using it to determine justice, is the definition of racist. Race, just as sex, is not a rational political or idealogical category. To state/act otherwise is indefensible.
        I will assume your statement is sarcasm, since it is absurd.

    2. Rich   3 years ago

      And the color of the *chair* is also germane in this instance.

      1. Ajsloss   3 years ago

        Only SUVs can commit crimes.

        1. kcuch   3 years ago

          don't forget gun crime!

      2. Unable2Reason   3 years ago

        I heard that the chair was made of pine, but had an oak stain on it...obviously trying to "pass" as cross burning material.

    3. JesseAz   3 years ago

      It isnt racist unless the article called him Kole.

    4. Kungpowderfinger   3 years ago

      Skin color is the most important thing

      The race war in the US can’t continue without the willing participation of the media, and Reason appears to be playing their part, however insignificant.

    5. Fats of Fury   3 years ago

      What was Travis Cole, who is black, arrested for?

    6. Eeyore   3 years ago

      After pronouns, those are most important.

  5. JesseAz   3 years ago

    Despite claims they are not sending conservative emails to spam boxes, Google continues to send millions of emails from conservatives to spam, with democrats barely effected.

    https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/robert-spencer/2022/10/03/rnc-says-google-spiked-over-22-million-of-its-emails-in-september-alone-n1634198

    1. Agammamon   3 years ago

      I mean . . . good. It's spam, after all. No one reads that shit. Now they just have to start doing it for the Democratic candidates so those voters don't have to deal with that shit too.

      I am seriously thinking about voting *against* the AZ Senate candidate because of all the fucking spam texts I get from his campaign. And I still can't remember his name.

      1. JesseAz   3 years ago (edited)

        Kelly has been pushing spam on email and TV for months. I've had to start engaging with his text group too to get them to stop sending me texts.

        1. Cyto   3 years ago

          Val Demmings is setting records for pushing stuff in my face in her Florida senate race against Marco Rubio. There must be some serious national DNC resources behind her. And if you count hit pieces against Rubio, she has pull even at Reason.

          1. JesseAz   3 years ago

            Just needs silicon valley support which i believe she has.

          2. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

            The DNC is pretty desperate to flip that seat, which is why they're sinking so much money in to it.

            Honestly, money probably doesn't mean much with these big-time races. Bobby O'Rourke and Stacey Abrams are getting most of their funding from California leftists, not people in their home state, and they're both looking like they're going to get blown the fuck out. Some ding-dong in Colorado has sunk $11 million towards Jared Polis' opponent, even though Polis has actually appealed to independents by not knuckling under to every random whim that his hyper-activist leftist party members come up with (most of the "I have problems with Democrats, too" remarks coming from the local punditry are largely because Polis in particular governs like an early-2000s era liberal, not a Current Year neo-marxist).

      2. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   3 years ago

        I always respond to political text spammers by telling them to fuck off, make it as crude as possible, and block their numbers.

    2. Eeyore   3 years ago

      Is it Google deliberately doing the censoring, or is the DNC using the negative marketing trick of signing up to lists that send RNC spam and then reporting it as spam to drive Google's spam algorithm?

  6. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    The Supreme Court has announced nine new cases that it will hear...

    Sounds exhausting.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      Needz moar justices!

      1. Rich   3 years ago

        Just a matter of time.

  7. JesseAz   3 years ago

    Pro trans group is now funding essentially kidnapping. Working to fund kids to leave their families and house them with trans partners.

    A Virginia pro-trans group with Democratic ties says it will help gender-confused students leave their families and “rehome” them with new “queer friendly” guardians instead, according to internal materials obtained by The Daily Wire.
    .
    But materials from the group’s internal message board show that its plans go much further than a walkout. A “#resources-for-outed-students” channel, created by Rawal, said the group would help children run away from their parents and arrange for them to be placed with new “Queer friendly” guardians.
    .
    “In the event of you needing to leave your home, we can provide you with emergency housing from a supportive, Queer friendly adult,” he continued, cautioning: “Please note that this adult will likely be white.”
    .
    “We may not be able to provide you that housing the same night, but we anticipate that we can secure someone to take you in within 1-2 days, and we will work with other supportive adult organizations in the region to find you someone who can provide you a kind and affirming home,” he added.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/pro-trans-group-behind-virginia-school-walkout-plans-to-rehome-gay-kids-who-hate-their-parents

    1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      Please note that this adult will likely be white.”

      WTF?

      1. Rich   3 years ago

        "Oh, very well. Will likely *self-identify as* white."

      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        And likely want to show you his junk.

        1. Stuck in California   3 years ago

          Or "her" junk.

          In the modern world, girls can have penises, too.

      3. mad.casual   3 years ago

        Of all the sentences, *that's* the 'WTF?' to you?

        1. JesseAz   3 years ago

          If the story wasn't so terrible that is the line I would laugh most at.

        2. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

          It’s like it was lifted from the front page of the bee

        3. R Mac   3 years ago

          Don't look at me! thinks race is the most important thing, duh.

      4. Ajsloss   3 years ago

        Color me out... or back in. I certainly don't want to run away from home to spend time with an icky white person.

      5. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago (edited)

        That’s because only white progressives are the ones doing this. Blacks and Hispanics kind of frown on the whole trans thing.

        1. kcuch   3 years ago

          Blacks kind of frown on the whole trans thing.

          except as a way to pass time in the big house

    2. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

      Isn't that contributing to the delinquency of a minor? You can't fund kids to runaway from home. Well, in this country you can if you are a leftist and the law doesn't apply to you I guess you can.

      1. JesseAz   3 years ago

        Pedophiles can.

      2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   3 years ago

        Convincing other peoples' kids to run away opens up the party to liability, and facilitating it is a crime.

        Third-party interference with child custody can occur in a variety of ways. It often includes a boyfriend, girlfriend, grandparent, or other family member removing a child from the jurisdiction, ostensibly to protect a child from what they perceive to be a difficult or dangerous situation...

        Usually, the third party means well; however, there are other ways to handle this type of situation.

        Removing a child can also open a person up to kidnapping charges.

    3. JimboJr   3 years ago

      "In the event of you needing to leave your home, we can provide you with emergency housing from a supportive, Queer friendly adult"

      Alex, what is 'definitely not groomer talk'?

      “Please note that this adult will likely be white.”

      Alex, what is 'definitely not racists'?

      1. mad.casual   3 years ago

        Queer friendly adult

        Don't say gay.

        1. Ersatz   3 years ago

          for the win!

    4. Mother's Lament   3 years ago (edited)

      “Well I don’t see you proposing an alternate solution to predators luring away children, hmmm? Tell me, what are we supposed to do with uncastrated boys and unmastectomied girls. Their parents might cruelly not abuse them. So what’s your solution.” – Chemjeff

      1. JesseAz   3 years ago

        Good summary of his position. But he believes not cutting dicks off is the real abuse. Despite the climbing rate of transition regret. Despite European countries even pulling back from the insanity as longer term studies are already showing the harm.

        I wouldn't be shocked of jeff worked in a pharmacy industry that makes profit off this shit. Sounds like his dream job.

        1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

          Chemjeff is too stupid to work in the pharmacy industry. He just stands outside of Planned Parenthood and doctor's offices offering free "initial inspections" for kids going in.

      2. Ignore me!   3 years ago

        Perfect.

    5. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago (edited)

      This doesn’t mean shit unless Youngkin actually does something about it. This is the kind of shit that would actually bring human trafficking charges in a sane society, and we all know Garland won’t do shit about that because his side supports it.

      So Youngkin’s going to have to bring the hammer down on orgs like this, and tell Garland to get fucked when he squeaks.

  8. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

    Bicycle accident? Where was Brandon?

    1. Anomalous   3 years ago

      Out getting ice cream.

      1. TheReEncogitationer   3 years ago

        C'Mon, Man! It was Jello Pudding and Boost. 🙂

    2. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   3 years ago

      If he was smart he would have taken a suv with a security convoy the entire way and only bike the last half a block

    3. Ajsloss   3 years ago

      More importantly, where's Jackie? Is she here?

      1. Dillinger   3 years ago

        Brandon finally topped "stand up, Chuck!"

    4. Its_Not_Inevitable   3 years ago

      Out looking for Jackie.

  9. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

    Georgia Senate GOP candidate Herschel Walker denies paying for abortion — son says he 'threatened to kill us'

    What a scumbag. A perfect MAGA Republican candidate.

    1. Anomalous   3 years ago

      Look who's calling someone else a scumbag.

      1. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

        That was a devastating and substantial reply.

        1. JesseAz   3 years ago

          As he gives a non substantive reply.

        2. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

          It's true though.

        3. Overt   3 years ago

          That's Mike for you. So interested in hating on his ideological enemies that he will defend a person who was banned from this site for posting kiddy porn. Very klazzy, Mike.

          1. Hank Ferrous   3 years ago

            I will point out that defending child pornography is condoning production, use, and distribution of child pornography, if one uses the left's argument 'reasoning.' So mike, no surprise, condones one of the most grotesque abuses of children that the left has chosen to defend.

          2. R Mac   3 years ago

            He is friends with Jeffy.

        4. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

          Oh, look. All the gray boxes who are known for their devastating and substantial, thoughtful and mature commentariat brilliance are biting at my ankles.

          1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

            You thrive on the attention.

            1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

              Says the guy who drops a turd on hundreds of posts a day in hope that someone will try to wipe one of them off.

              1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   3 years ago

                Oh, the turds are yours. He is just returning them.

          2. JesseAz   3 years ago

            Another substantial post.

          3. Overt   3 years ago

            It takes an amazing amount of chutzpah for Mike to troll and troll, and then complain about people responding to his trolling.

      2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

        I am proud to be hated by you QAnon Trump trash rednecks.

        WEF GLOBALIST PEDOFILE! YEE HAW ! TRUMP REDNECKS FEREVER!

        1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

          Go back to your kiddy porn.

        2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

          So brave.

        3. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

          "Rednecks"

          It's funny how Shrike thinks he's part of the gentry class just because he shills for one of their bigwigs.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

            Kinda like a house dinger acting uppity.

        4. Overt   3 years ago

          Note that SPB pulls exactly the same shit that Weinstein and Epstein did- he doesn't deny that he was banned from this site for posting kiddy porn (which he was, see link below for the proof). No, he instead tries to virtue signal for tribal allies to come to his defense. Just like when Weinstein tried redirecting attention on him to the NRA.

          If I were one of the left-leaners here, I'd be appalled that a trafficker in kiddy porn was trying to use me as a shield. But YMMV I guess.

          https://reason.com/2022/08/06/biden-comforts-the-comfortable/?comments=true#comment-9635836

          Don't respond to SPB, just shun him

          1. JesseAz   3 years ago

            Two allies have done so in recent weeks. Mike and sarc.

            1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

              Why are you obsessed with me? You can't stop talking about me. It's creepy.

        5. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

          I am proud to be hated by you QAnon Trump trash rednecks.

          I bet fellow pederast Joseph Rosenbaum was too, before he got righteously domed.

      3. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   3 years ago

        Hey sbp vies it as one less underage person for him to oggle

    2. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   3 years ago

      OMG Mr. Buttplug can you believe how amazing this Biden economy is?

      Liberal capitalists Bezos, Gates, Buffett, Page, Brin, and Ballmer each made billions yesterday. That means the economy is in terrific shape and the President deserves all the credit.

      #DefendBidenAtAllCosts

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago (edited)

        As we know from a quick visit to wingnut.com the economy is in shambles!

        Simultaneously, the economy has overheated with its full employment and record demand which results in inflation.

        So -to recap wingnut.com:

        Record demand + full employment + overheating = economy in shambles.

        It is all over AM radio. People are dying and starving in the streets.

        1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

          full employment and record demand which results in inflation.

          But just for spittin tobaccy.

          1. JesseAz   3 years ago

            SPB still doesn't know or understand labor participation rates or how democrats push policies that help encourage not seeking jobs.

            1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

              He knows, but he's not paid to post about that.

        2. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   3 years ago

          Yeah wingnut.com sites like "CNN" are doing exactly what you criticized them for — being mean to Biden with disinformation like Dow suffers worst month since March 2020.

          I of course prefer more rigorous economic analysis. More reliable metrics. Like you provided from 2017 to 2020, when you proved the Trump economy was in shambles by linking to a story about Sam's Club closing a few locations.

          #BestEconomyEver

          1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

            That was hilarious.

          2. Commenter_XY   3 years ago

            OBL, you are priceless.

      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        So true. We really don't deserve Joe.

    3. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

      Shreek believes whatever lies are told him.

      Film at 11.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        Both in his head.

    4. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

      Cope and seethe, pedo. I know it's hard for you to see a black man succeeding in life.

    5. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

      I dont care about their personal lives.

      How will he vote on gun control, taxes, regulatory expansion, socialism in general, neo-con foreign wars? Which federal judges will he support or oppose?

      Way better than Warnock, that's the answer. It's the simple truth.

      1. R Mac   3 years ago

        The pedo disagrees with him on those things too.

    6. R Mac   3 years ago

      You were banned for posting kiddie porn links.

  10. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   3 years ago

    "Doctors worry that in vitro fertilization will get swept up in abortion bans."

    Well we've met today's quota for abortion stories (although personally I prefer at least 2 or 3). But nothing about DeSantis?

    No updates on the KIDNAPPING and HUMAN TRAFFICKING cases against him — which #Resistance Twitter legal scholars assured me are slam dunks? No revisions to the hurricane death toll for which he deserves 100% of the blame?

    #LibertariansForImprisoningBidensEnemies
    #LizCheney2024

    1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      Are the death figures “from hurricane” or “with hurricane”?

    2. Hank Ferrous   3 years ago

      A feverish 'what if' nonsensical screed from vanity fair about some doctors' opinions -opinions that are far detached from reality. ENB is grasping with this shit.

      1. R Mac   3 years ago

        That’s what activists do.

  11. JesseAz   3 years ago

    Supreme Court agrees to hear S.230 case.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/supreme-court-agrees-to-hear-case-challenging-big-techs-section-230-legal-protections

    1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      The court agreed to hear it because they won’t be responsible for the content.

    2. R Mac   3 years ago

      So Reason will start doing daily pro-big tech articles soon.

  12. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

    "Much more of this, and the front page of The Onion would be indistinguishable from The New York Times."

    New York Times: "Hold my white Zinfandel."

    1. Mickey Rat   3 years ago

      It is not now?

    2. Hank Ferrous   3 years ago

      The front page of the onion has been indistinguishable from the nyt for several years.

      1. Ersatz   3 years ago

        to my memory [its bin a while] the onion has never been half as good as Babylon Bee on its worst day

        1. Ignore me!   3 years ago

          Years ago it was pretty good, but that's a long time gone.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

            It got too liberal. And god knows, liberals struggle with satire.

  13. JesseAz   3 years ago

    AMA asks DoJ to investigate people against non adult trans surgeries.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/american-medical-association-pushes-doj-to-investigate-and-prosecute-those-who-call-out-gender-surgeries-online

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      My private..., oh, fuck it.

      1. R Mac   3 years ago

        That’s what Jeffy said.

    2. Social Justice is neither   3 years ago

      So is this the American Mengele Admirers? JFC they've gone off the deep end.

    3. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      I’m thinking trans surgery is really profitable.

      1. JesseAz   3 years ago

        The videos don't exist! Those who saved them prior to deletion are liars! Mike has proven surgeries dont happen to kids using 3 year old statements from WPATH (please ignore their latest releases).

        1. R Mac   3 years ago

          I guess Dee has you back on mute so he can ignore this?

          1. JesseAz   3 years ago

            He is just back to pretending.

    4. mad.casual   3 years ago

      Perennially fruitful:

      "I think non-adult trans surgeries are a crime worse than genital mutilation and rape combined." - Hunter Biden

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        Somebody prefers his non-adult partners as the gods made them.

      2. JasonAZ   3 years ago

        He ain't wrong...

  14. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

    "Doctors worry that in vitro fertilization will get swept up in abortion bans."

    What about in vitro gender affirmation?

    1. Mickey Rat   3 years ago

      Fertility doctors worry that the ethically dubious shortcuts they use might be legally questioned.

  15. JesseAz   3 years ago

    Letter between Houck lawyer and DoJ agreeing to come in months before his house was raided raises questions. Questions Reason would normally ask of the FBI. Also the lawyer provided a response to the FACE act how it was not applicable because the shoving came during a mutual argument, not as an attempt to stop someone from entering the clinic as required by FACE.

    Where are you on this case Reason?

    https://thefederalist.com/2022/10/04/with-new-documents-the-biden-administrations-targeting-of-a-pro-life-dad-just-got-crazier/

    1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

      Civil rights and the rule of law only matter when we are talking about fashionable people. Reason will assign Slade to write an article explaining how religious freedom means this guy was asking for it and got what he deserved.

      1. JesseAz   3 years ago

        They also essentially ignored the government working with planned parenthood to go after Daedelin in California. Apparently government abuse to go after pro lifers is good government abuse.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      "Where are you on this case Reason?"

      I would guess indistinguishable from NPR.

    3. Hank Ferrous   3 years ago

      Individual rights & civil rights < abortion 'rights,' unless you expected a libertarian approach here.

    4. But SkyNet is a Private Company   3 years ago (edited)

      Too local

      I mean, with as many local DOJs and FBIs as we have, there are bound to be some slightly overzealous but still good ones some where

  16. Rich   3 years ago

    the suspicious injuries revealed in the autopsy were sustained during attempts to save his life.

    "And the suspicious injuries revealed in the autopsy to have been sustained during attempts to save his life were sustained during attempts to save the autopsy."

    1. JimboJr   3 years ago

      there is a new fancy ACLS that involves applying the precordial thump (often seen in movies as the dramatic chest punch along with "LIVE DAMNIT!") directly to the face and trachea, according to updated LAPD guidelines.

    2. Ronbback   3 years ago

      If he died from them trying to save his life they should get negligent manslaughter since they clearly didn't know what the hell they were doing. also don't call the cops for a medical issue, actually just don't call the cops.
      remember when the LAPd shot up that car with the two newspaper delivery ladies that they thought was the cop who reported on other cops. seems like the LAPD is the worse gang of all.

      1. Ronbback   3 years ago

        also this was sarcasm no way did he get those injuries from a fall and them trying to resuscitate him

        1. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

          See, this is exactly why that dude needed to label his police department parody site. I wouldn’t have known you were being sarcastic until you said so.

          1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

            Because you are stupid.

            1. HorseConch   3 years ago

              Do you have a citation for him being stupid?

              1. R Mac   3 years ago

                Hundreds.

  17. Longtobefree   3 years ago

    "so he slipped on a bar of soap and the gun he was cleaning then went of into his back four times?"

    That will never sell.

    OK, how about "There was a training accident"?

    1. JimboJr   3 years ago

      standard bicycle training > choke out death. Nothing to see here.

      1. rbike   3 years ago

        This has happened to me while riding my bike. Though in my case a small furry animal was also invited.

        1. Ajsloss   3 years ago

          Presumably you were wearing a mask and that's how you survived?

      2. mad.casual   3 years ago

        An officer knelt on Floyd's neck for 9 min. and it still wasn't broken. This wasn't a choke out death.

        1. JesseAz   3 years ago

          Broken necks have occurred in many bjj or judo comps. It happens.

          https://forums.ufcfightclub.com/topic/142673-15-year-old-breaks-neck-in-bjj-comp-likely-quadriplegic-for-life/

          No idea what happened here. But it is not completely implausible.

          1. Cyto   3 years ago

            If the allegations are to be believed, he has subdural hematomas on both sides of his head.

            Even 1 bodyslam that went wrong wouldn't explain that. You get that by being repeatedly slammed against the ground... maybe having your head stomped on.

            1. JimboJr   3 years ago

              all signs point to he got the fuck beat out of him

            2. mad.casual   3 years ago

              I'm not sure what bicycle police procedure entails but, presumably, you wouldn't remove your helmet either.

          2. mad.casual   3 years ago

            But it is not completely implausible.

            I didn't say his broken neck was implausible. I just said he wasn't choked out. The totality of injuries, even if you write off the broken ribs and lacerated organs as part of resuscitation, clearly indicates the guy was knowingly beaten to death.

  18. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    The U.K. government backtracked on a key part of its broad tax-cut plan after facing a backlash from financial markets and a rebellion in its own ranks...

    They dressed as cowboys and pulled tea out of the harbor.

    1. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

      Excuse me, harbour.

  19. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    A jury convicted him in December 2021 and he was sentenced to probation.

    The maximum sentence for torture.

  20. JesseAz   3 years ago

    New York Times admits the lies about migrants bit being told where to go and being involuntarily transported were lies. Lies Jeff told for days.

    Fast forward a few weeks to Sunday, Oct. 2, when The New York Times published an article identifying the mysterious “Perla” who talked to migrants in San Antonio as Perla Huerta, an alleged former combat medic and counterintelligence agent who now resides in Tampa, Florida. Buried more than two dozen paragraphs into the NYT article is a quiet confirmation that, regardless of Perla, the migrants not only agreed to get on the plane voluntarily but that they knew their final destination was the wealthy East Coast island of Martha’s Vineyard.
    .
    “The migrants each received a red folder containing a map of the United States, with an arrow stretching from Texas to Massachusetts. Another map in the shape of Martha’s Vineyard had a dot for the airport and one for the community services center,” the New York Times story states.
    .
    Using information from “a person briefed on the San Antonio sheriff’s office investigation,” the Times affirmed what DeSantis and his office had claimed all along: These illegal border-crossers knew where they were going when they boarded the plane to Martha’s Vineyard. And they did so of their own will.

    https://thefederalist.com/2022/10/04/as-nyt-identifies-the-mysterious-perla-all-the-medias-marthas-vineyard-lies-unravel/

    Jeff will be here shortly to continue to claim he was right without introspection.

    1. JimboJr   3 years ago

      I for one am still confused as I was told the benevolent rich lefties welcomed the migrants with open arms, to Desantis' chagrin, completely crushing his plan of showing the hypocrisy of the rich democrats there...

      But then I was absolutely shocked to see them sent to a military facility far away. I mean, I was told the migrants were enriching these brave generous white liberals, and then all of a sudden they were in cages? Im sure Trump or the GOP must have intervened.

      Has anyone reached out to AOC to let her know the migrants got sent to cages? Swallwell's 4 year old available for comment?

      1. Agammamon   3 years ago

        Even if I was told I was going to Boston - it's in the same NE state. MB is only like a hundred miles away. My county is the size of most NE states.

      2. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

        Wait, they did get some pizza.

        1. R Mac   3 years ago

          And that’s really all that matters.

        2. HorseConch   3 years ago

          Did they ship them back South to pick the crops?

  21. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   3 years ago

    Doctors worry or a lunitic left wit wing retart
    *clicks link
    Vanity fair. Bang up job retard

  22. sarcasmic   3 years ago

    LAPD Officer Killed During Training Exercise Was Reportedly Investigating Cops Accused of Gang Rape

    This is why I say 99% of cops give the rest a bad name. Good cops conform, quit in disgust, are forced out, or in this case killed. Good people are not welcome in any police department.

    1. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

      In California at least, cops who have anything on the ball get jobs in pleasant suburbs, and big city departments like LAPD get the dregs.

      I suppose it’s the same dynamic everywhere, but I’m personally familiar with how it works in L.A. and San Francisco.

      1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

        I'll just add that to the long list of why cities are sometimes fun to visit, but not a place I want to live.

        1. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

          Agreed. As someone who very happily lived about 45 minutes FROM San Francisco. It was always a relief after a pleasant day there to head back home to the burbs, where you can park your car and go for a walk without stepping in people poo.

        2. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

          Plus, I think Sevo might live there.

          1. JesseAz   3 years ago

            Another substantive post.

            1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

              "Another substantive pooo-ooost! Another substantive pooo-ooost! Nanny nanny boo boo! Another substantive pooo-ooost!"

              1. R Mac   3 years ago

                Sarc defends fellow hypocrite Mike Liarson.

  23. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   3 years ago

    ENB is only upset when the onion tells her to be. There are plenty of people that have been punished for making fun of the goverment

    1. JimboJr   3 years ago

      The onion is on the same track as SNL, the daily show, etc. Once culturally relevant and sometimes funny, now nanny state propaganda shills.

      The bee ate their lunch many times over.

      1. JesseAz   3 years ago

        Biden has done nothing anyone could parody.

        1. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   3 years ago

          The guy who founded the bee said comedy is hard now, because anything he says can be true

      2. Cyto   3 years ago

        Google pushed an SNL bit into my feed last night that lampoons Herschel Walker.

        The joke is entirely based on portraying Walker using extreme racial stereotypes, being unable to speak properly, talking in ghetto ebonics, being stupid in a cartoonish blackface way.... they even make the only other joke be that he is an athlete.

        Slay queen! Those stupid blacks shouldn't be in politics! (Eyeroll)

        They didn't even bother dealing with any of the issues Walker was tackling. Just "hahaha. Dumb black athlete! Hahahaba..Hahaha soooo dumb!"

        1. JesseAz   3 years ago

          New York Times already called Walker out for not being black by not protesting when he was a HS football star. His career is over.

          1. Cyto   3 years ago

            The layers is what impresses me.

            SNL doing racist political humor is one level. YouTube would normally take that down as hate speech... so level 2.

            But Google pushed it to me... none of SNL, Walker, Georgia, Democrat politics, politics in general are anywhere in my video interests on YouTube.

            I really don't see Google promoting a Steven Crowder video lampooning Kamala Harris as a racial stereotype of the stupid, loud, ghetto black woman.

        2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

          That's the power of CRT! Only enlightened (i.e. self-loathing) whites can make fun of Republican darkies.

          1. JesseAz   3 years ago

            You mean tan republican white supremacists..

      3. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

        As they became more progressive, more puritan, more intolerant, they became less and less funny, and less and less relevant. The proggies cannot and will not make fun of themselves, and will not allow anyone else to do so if they can help it. They are super serious about what they do, in a very religious way. In this, they are no different than Islamic fundamentalists who cannot accept any criticism of their religion or the way they practice it.

        1. Ignore me!   3 years ago

          I honestly think fundie Islam is their model. They fear it enough to exempt it from their Maoist bullshit, and I'm sure they envy that kind of power.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago (edited)

            Yeah, they seem to have fetishized Islamic fundamentalism during the 2000s the same way SDS/Weatherman did with black nationalism and Maoism in the late 60s-early 70s.

    2. Cyto   3 years ago

      Similar satire site Babylon Bee is still banned from Twitter for making fun of the press.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

        Actually, for calling Rachel Levine, Man of the Year. Twitter wants a statement of contrition from The Bee. The Bee, rightly, has told Twitter to go F.O.

        1. Minadin   3 years ago

          Well, the Bee was doing that to lampoon TIME magazine naming Levine their Woman of the Year.

          So, you're both correct.

  24. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    A group of modern scholars and civil rights activists are now urging President Joe Biden to right that historical wrong by issuing a posthumous pardon...

    Depends if any of her descendants were Democratic fundraising bundlers.

    1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   3 years ago

      They are going for the dead voter crowd.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

        That's just election season in Chicago.

  25. Winnie SC   3 years ago

    The good news is it's one dead cop. The bad news is apparently a whole gang of them is missing prison which is where every damned last one of them belongs.

    Oh well--can't win 'em all.

    1. Cyto   3 years ago (edited)

      I get the attempt at humor, but that is a pretty shitty take.

      1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

        Guess who he calls when his house is robbed.

        1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

          I called the cops once after my house was robbed. They told me it was drug related and offered to search my house for things they could use to arrest me. I reminded them that I was the crime victim and their job was to help me. They laughed and left.

          People wonder why I have no respect for law enforcement.

          1. R Mac   3 years ago

            What was stolen from your cardboard box?

            1. Dogvalor   3 years ago

              And did you find it later, when you sobered up?

  26. sarcasmic   3 years ago

    Put simply, for parody to work, it has to plausibly mimic the original. The Sixth Circuit's decision in this case would condition the First Amendment's protection for parody upon a requirement that parodists explicitly say, up-front, that their work is nothing more than an elaborate fiction. But that would strip parody of the very thing that makes it function.

    All that matters is team. If they are making fun of the other team then it is ok. But if they make fun of your team then the hammer must come down. Principles shminciples.

  27. sarcasmic   3 years ago

    Anthony Bourdain 'never stopped drinking' and 'hated who he had become' by the time he killed himself in 2018, author of controversial new biography claims

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11275417/Anthony-Bourdain-never-stopped-drinking-hated-hed-author-biography-claims.html

    There's a new story about this every day in the Daily Mail. As if someone is reading the book, a chapter a day, and writing an article on each one.

    1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

      Seriously though, when people kill themselves I get angry at them. Selfish fucks.

      1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

        .. I get angry at them

        And everyone else as well.

        1. JesseAz   3 years ago

          Mostly his life is what makes him angry.

        2. sarcasmic   3 years ago

          Cry more.

      2. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

        Why would you get pissed off at Bourdain for necking himself? The events that ultimately led to that were almost entirely self-inflicted, and it's not like he wasn't a fairly good example of his particular social class in both his attitude and temperament.

        How many stable, well-adjusted people are steeped in Hollywood/NYC celebrity culture to begin with?

        1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

          I get pissed at most anyone who kills themselves. Not putting him on a pedestal. In certain cases like a terminal disease with unmanageable pain I can empathize, but otherwise fuck you. Suck it up buttercup. You've still got something to contribute to the world.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

            Not always. The world isn't any worse for Richard "Lowtax" Kyanka killing himself, for example.

            1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

              Nothing is always. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

      3. kcuch   3 years ago

        You get angry at them for what... depriving you of their presence?

        Selfish Fuck!

      4. Agammamon   3 years ago

        Because the state owns their life? Because they owe you something?

        And how much does it take to count? Race car driving, sky diving, etc - high risk activities. Do they count? After all, they're risking the life you own.

        Personally I simply don't care. There are a handful of people I take care of and let everyone else live their own lives.

    2. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

      His girlfriend sounds horrible, but all the blame for his suicide cannot be laid at her feet. There are parts of “Kitchen Confidential”, written long before meeting her, where he talks about his bouts of feeling suicidal.

      1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

        That's one of my favorite books. As someone who spent a decade and a half in that industry I can totally relate.
        I was mad at the girlfriend for a little while. She doesn't seem like a good person, and I don't trust anyone with tats on their chest.
        But in the end it was his choice.

        1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

          I was mad at the girlfriend for a little while.

          See?

          1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

            What stupid personal attack is this supposed to be and who are you trying to impress?

            1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

              Cry more.

              1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                You didn't answer the question. You comment was intended to raise your status among your tribe by putting down an outsider, but this outsider doesn't understand the put down.
                Please enlighten me.

                1. Outlaw Josey Wales   3 years ago

                  The claim above that you are angry at everything. First the suicider and then later in the same thread, the girlfriend for a little while.

                  That is the 'see' part.

                  1. R Mac   3 years ago

                    In sarc’s defense, he’s probably shitfaced.

                    1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   3 years ago

                      Angry at people he doesn't know over shit that has zero effect on him. Nobody needs to put words into his mouth to make him look stupid. He does it all by himself if you wait 5 minutes.

                  2. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                    Oh. Ok. That's silly.

        2. JimboJr   3 years ago

          "As someone who spent a decade and a half in that industry I can totally relate."

          Bourdain's normal territory was usually a cut above "soup kitchen"

          1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

            I've never been to a soup kitchen. Probably should volunteer some time. Maybe lay a hippie chick or two.

          2. sarcasmic   3 years ago

            I don't know anything about soup kitchens. Being that you're an expert, I'd like to pick your brain sometime. Is 12pm EST good for you?

          3. sarcasmic   3 years ago

            Waiting...

          4. JesseAz   3 years ago

            Congrats on getting 3 responses for something so mundane. Trying to top his list I see.

        3. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

          Wow! Sounds like “Don’t look at me!” hit you with a devastating and substantial comment!

          1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

            By the reaction, I’d say I hit the mark.

          2. JesseAz   3 years ago

            Another substantive comment.

            1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

              Another substantive caaaaw-ment! Another substantive caaaaaw-ment! Nanny nanny booo-booo! Another substantive caaaaaw-ment!

              That's as substantive as when you and your girlfriends say "Ideas!" after one of my comments.

        4. R Mac   3 years ago

          So the book never mentions Cuban sandwiches I see.

  28. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

    Pathological liar Joe Biden claims he was raised in a Puerto Rican community. https://nypost.com/2022/10/03/biden-claims-he-was-raised-in-the-puerto-rican-community/

    Jill looks like she's trying to make eye contact with one of his handlers off-camera to come and lead him back to his pudding.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      Is that when he wore an onion on his belt?

      1. JimboJr   3 years ago

        I mean, that was the style at the time

      2. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

        In those days, the ferry to Shelbyville cost a nickel, and nickels had pictures of bumblebees on them. "Give me five bees for a quarter," you'd say.

    2. Mother's Lament   3 years ago (edited)

      At least Biden’s making the fall of America funny.

    3. JimboJr   3 years ago

      Like good ol Beto, most democrats think their hispanic nannies they had growing up count as giving them street cred with communities.

      They have very superficial (usually beneficial to them) relationships with people of color, and this is why despite how cultured they try to be, they end up reducing so many people to stereotypes (or breakfast tacos)

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

        They have very superficial (usually beneficial to them) relationships with people of color, and this is why despite how cultured they try to be, they end up reducing so many people to stereotypes (or breakfast tacos)

        I think I've mentioned this before, but that comment by Jill was particularly hilarious because, besides the Alamo, the Spurs, and their big ol' women, San Antonio is mostly known for being saturated with crummy drive-thru taquerias and some of the most poorly made Tex-Mex food in the southwest. You can get better meals at tourist traps in Albuquerque, which is like 1/3 of the population and nowhere near as economically robust, than you ever could in these supposedly "authentic" drive-thru roach coaches, which mostly serve up authentically bad crap.

        1. Agammamon   3 years ago

          Doubly so since breakfast tacos aren't even Hispanic.

    4. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

      What a lying chinga tu madre.

    5. Commenter_XY   3 years ago

      This is now getting to the point of elder abuse = Watching pathetic displays from POTUS Biden

      How do the people behind POTUS Biden live with themselves, knowing he is cognitively impaired?

  29. Quo Usque Tandem   3 years ago

    "He had subdural hematomas at three places on the left side and three places on the right side."

    So 6 blows to the head severe enough to cause SDH, and we are supposed to believe this was due to a "grappling exercise?" They killed the guy and the medical examiner is covering for them.

    [Why am I the first to comment on this? Oh yeah, it's way more fun to play anti troll to Butt Plug].

    1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

      If cops can get away with murdering one of their own, imagine what they do to the rest of us. I sometimes wonder if part of the initiation into joining the gang involves killing a hobo or something.

    2. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      They killed the guy and the medical examiner is covering for them.

      Because the medical examiner was going on a “bike ride “ with the cops if he didn’t.

      1. Quo Usque Tandem   3 years ago

        Corruption runs deep. It's like we are back to the Serpico days where everyone was "on the take." Only now they prefer to shoot dogs, rape women, strangle minorities, and take out their own "snitches."

        I still want to believe that Pareto applies to cops, 80/20, with one out of five creating 80% of the bad stuff. I want to believe that, not sure I do.

        1. Dillinger   3 years ago

          hey dummies, take out the witnesses not the replaceable investigator

        2. sarcasmic   3 years ago

          Pareto applies to people without power. Add power and it flips.

        3. swillfredo pareto   3 years ago (edited)

          I still want to believe that Pareto applies to cops, 80/20, with one out of five creating 80% of the bad stuff.

          It’s still a swillfredo distribution, the 80% who are corrupt make the remaining 20% look bad.

  30. Brian   3 years ago

    Joe Biden is a rapist.

  31. A Thinking Mind   3 years ago

    The bump stock the Vegas shooter was using probably decreased his lethality anyway.

    1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   3 years ago

      That is the dumbest possible take. He was spraying indiscriminately into a tightly packed crowd.

      1. A Thinking Mind   3 years ago

        From over 1500 feet away. Spraying random bullets means a lot of them probably shot wide of the crowd. And people tend to vastly overrate how "tightly" packed a crowd is, there's still generally a lot of empty space in a group like that. Plus he was shooting from an angle where the stage and some of the buildings could partially obscure him. Random spraying at that range isn't going to be as lethal as selecting targets, and you can still put out a ton of bullets in a short amount of time by just pulling the trigger.

      2. Agammamon   3 years ago

        So it's not going to help that.

        Aaaaaand - he didn't actually use a gin with a bump stock on it anyway.

  32. Squirrelloid   3 years ago

    Sadly, the Onion amici brief was the funniest thing I've read from them in a long time. Maybe they should make legal activism their main focus?

    (They were much funnier before they went corporate, when they were just a UW student paper.)

  33. Dillinger   3 years ago

    wtf LAPD?

    >>Doctors worry that in vitro fertilization will get swept up in abortion bans.

    makes sense.

  34. Naime Bond   3 years ago

    Wasn't the movie "Training Day" also inspired about a day in the life of those wonderful LAPD cops?

  35. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

    Re: the Vegas route 91 massacre.
    I don't live in Nevada, don't know the players and cannot verify anything in this link. But I happened on this vid and ended up watching the whole 2 hours. Pretty compelling and well produced.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqYLQE6xxzk
    The gal that produced and narrates is a big L libertarian currently running for office in Nevada. For what it's worth.

    1. R Mac   3 years ago

      Depends if she’s in the Mises caucus. I don’t want to hear from no racist.

      — Brandyshit

  36. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

    More Than Half of Police Killings Are Mislabeled, New Study Says
    Researchers comparing information from death certificates with data from organizations that track police killings in the United States identified a startling discrepancy.

    With COVID or from COVID, NYT?

  37. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago (edited)

    Well we got quite a bit of speculative hay about a suspicious death here, so this is probably a good thread to post this in.

    I ran across this clip in my youtube feed the other day. Trigger warning: Fox News.

    Now I usually ignore FOX news stuff because in the end, it’s little different than anything from any other network like CNN, just partisan talking heads speculating about stuff going on in the Biden administration. Even when I find those clips interesting or funny, I usually don’t forward them on to Reason comments because they’re not really providing anything informative beyond rage-bait of clicky stuff that most people have already made their minds up about, like relocating 50 migrants to Martha’s Vineyard, or another clip of Biden wandering off stage with his handlers shouting behind him as he gets into a cab and drives away…

    But this one caught my eye, and this is kind of the platonic example of what pisses me off about Reason. This is a serious story regarding the fallout from the FBI malfeasance in the Trump/Russia investigation. It has all the hallmarks of stuff Reason would be nominally interested in: Bogus FISA warrants, rubber-stamping judges, people in power using government agencies to attack their political opponents with information confirmed to have been falsified by shady actors working for both a political party and are paid FBI informants. The more I look at this story, the more it makes Watergate look like a Jr High test-cheating scandal with half a dozen 14yr olds.

    This is serious shit, and I really suggest you watch this clip.

    Whatever you think of Trump campaign people like Carter Page, the fact that the Obama administration was involved in this should enrage anyone.

    Now, back to your 3000 word article on whether Biden will pardon a long-dead anti-slavery activist and the optics of that for Social Justice.

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

      Libertarians should have been outraged starting with the Flynn prosecution. I was and in my opinion he was a terrible pick and a dangerous neocon. What has been revealed since then is by far the biggest political scandal in US history. But you sure wouldn't know it reading Reason.

      1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

        Reason board member Ken White not only didn't object to the Flynn prosecution, he defended it on Twitter and called anyone who questioned it insane. I am not kidding. If reason were an actual libertarian publication or cared anything about the rule of law and civil liberties, it would have been all over the Flynn prosecution and kicked White off its board for his appalling behavior during the affair.

        1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

          Ken White's brain has been irreparably addled by TDS. He used to be a good read.

          1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

            He is just pathetic. White is so desperate to fit in with the establishment. It is so obvious. The man literally has no shame or integrity.

    2. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

      This is by far the biggest political scandal in U.S. history, and it's been apparent for years to anyone who is actually willing to look into it. Reason not only doesn't give a shit, but they've basically been sticking their fingers in their ears and screaming "LALALA, I CAN'T HEAR YOU!"

      1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

        Someone who wears a face muzzle because he doesn't want people to think he's a republican isn't going to cover a major political scandal that implicates his team if "it makes him look like a republican".

      2. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

        When it comes down to it, reason is more worried about fitting into the beltway media culture than they are about telling the truth. They are all about truth to power when being so is condoned by the establishment. But when saying the truth requires standing up to and calling out that establishment, then reason quickly loses interest. They are principled and courageous that way.

      3. Quo Usque Tandem   3 years ago

        As when Fox reported the misbehavior and failures of Cuomo, and eventually the mainstream outlets could no longer ignore it.

        MSM would like nothing more than to ignore and memory hole this type of information, as they do every day. Unless or until they can't.
        The "fourth estate" has failed and misled us, with disastrous results.
        To the point where the favored class believes they can do anything they want without repercussions.

    3. R Mac   3 years ago

      “Biden wandering off stage with his handlers shouting behind him as he gets into a cab and drives away…”

      Biden stole a cab?

      1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

        https://redstate.com/bonchie/2022/10/03/things-go-way-off-the-rails-during-joe-bidens-trip-to-puerto-rico-n636942

        Watch the clips in this article. Biden is just gone. I don't care what you think of Harris, she is at least sentient. They have got to invoke the 25th Amendment on this clown.

        1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

          I don’t care what you think of Harris, she is at least sentient.

          That's why Kamala Harris scares the Democrats so much.

          I'll say it again: When we're watching Joe Biden, we all agree we're seeing him at his worst. When we watch Kamala Harris, we're seeing her at her best.

          1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

            It is still better than Biden. And don't forget, Joe Biden has always been known as one of the dumbest, most viscous, and corrupt members of the Senate. And that put him in serious contention for dumbest person on earth. Biden is senile, but he didn't have much intelligence to lose in the first place.

            1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

              It is still better than Biden.

              Yes, but think about what I'm saying. When she's not making any sense, this is the BEST she'll ever be. This is Kamala at her sharpest, most intelligent. And she's a disaster. Joe Biden has an excuse, he's in cognitive decline. What's hers?

              1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

                She is as dumb as a post. But Biden said he was going to only choose a black woman and the die was cast. They are stuck with her. I am starting to think she is going to end up being President. Biden's mental condition is deteriorating every day. I don't think this can go on forever. He is either going to have some kind of debilitating stroke or do something like punch someone or drop his pants and take a shit on stage that is so bad the media won't be able to ignore it. Either way, I don't think Biden makes it four years. And that leaves Harris.

                1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

                  Agreed, and that's why the Dems are so desperate to prop Biden up, the idea that this half-wit will be president is too awful to contemplate. And that's from the Dem perspective, let alone the *checks notes* 90% of the rest of the country that didn't vote for her.

                2. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

                  He is either going to have some kind of debilitating stroke or do something like punch someone or drop his pants and take a shit on stage that is so bad the media won’t be able to ignore it.

                  I mean, he didn't drop his pants while talking to Anderson Cooper, but the whole world knows what went on here:
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEW1UWdUbww

                  1. R Mac   3 years ago

                    11 months ago? How tf did I miss that one?!

                    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

                      Yeah, there were a bunch of Cornholio memes after that.

                3. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

                  I'm inclined to agree. I'm not so sure Biden's gonna make it the full four years. There are two things right now that I think stop the Democrats from 25th-ing him, at least until after midterms.

                  1. As stated before, they are scared shitless of Harris becoming President. She makes a box of rocks look smart and intelligent. Harris is the dumbest thing I've ever seen this close to the Oval Office, and that's saying a lot considering Al Gore, Dan Quayle, and more historically. Even Joe himself was better during the Obama years than Harris is now.

                  2. If Harris becomes President before the midterms, the Democrats lose their majority in the Senate. It becomes 50/50 until Harris nominates a new VP, and that VP is confirmed. Confirmation of a new VP that she chooses is not certain, considering the composition of the House and Senate. Even after midterms, a Harris pick will need to be more moderate to appeal to a new Republican majority in both the House and Senate.

        2. R Mac   3 years ago

          Oof.

    4. Quo Usque Tandem   3 years ago

      Thanks for this.

      And thank you for being a contributing member of this working man's commentariat.

  38. Derpifer   3 years ago

    How dumb do you have to be to sue the police department for murdering your family member? Besides the obvious folly of going to the government with a complaint about the government, it just puts a big target on your whole family. Natural selection, I guess.

  39. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

    Dude points out the obvious. Bloomberg talking heads freak out.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/watch-top-un-adviser-interrupted-exasperated-bloomberg-hosts-wrongthink-russia-ukraine

    1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

      It might have been the US, but I wouldn't say it is obvious that it was the US. It just as easily could have been the Russians. I wouldn't hazard to guess either way without a lot more information.

      1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago (edited)

        No, it’s not just as easy. There is no realistic scenario in which it makes any sense.

        The US has wanted to stop Nordstream2 for a long time. It is in the US interest for Nordstream to not exist. The Germans NEED Nordstream because it’s the only way they’re able to keep the lights on. The Russians like Nordstream because 1: it allows them to profit from selling gas to an increasingly de-industrialized Germany and 2: It provides a major leverage point over the EU and the west in general as they control the ON/OFF valve on their end.

        The reasons it was the US are too obvious to even go into.

        The reasons it could be Germany is that it forces them to commit to the corner they painted themselves into with their Sanctions on Russia. It’s essentially Cortez burning his own ships to commit his forces to the mission ahead– there’s no going back. Now, this would be an extreme measure that I don’t think they’d undertake, but it’s possible. But for the Russians to have done it would be some bizarro-world game of 14-D chess where they destroy the very thing the US doesn’t want, Germany needs and you control, for some kind of destabilizing effect on the West by implicating them in your false-flag operation. It borders on insane.

        So if it wasn’t any of the above three, then we have to figure some other government like China, the Saudis, Turkey, India, Pakistan… and none of those are very likely.

        I agree the idea that the US perpetrated such an obvious crime is almost too horrible to contemplate, but there is literally no chess-board setup that I can see where it isn’t the obvious move.

        1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

          I don't think the US did. I think it is more likely that the Russians did it to both make Europe freeze and to hopefully get them to blame it on the US for the reasons you give. That makes a lot more sense to me than the US doing it. Yeah we don't like it, but it doesn't really hurt us that much. Not enough to justify blowing it up.

          1. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

            Yeah that's nonsense. Russia already had the ability to make Europe freeze and US demanded sanctions, right or wrong, were obviously to blame. So Russia destroys is best bargaining chip and a chunk of infrastructure it is heavily invested in. Yeah that makes sense. I'm open to the argument that the Russians might have caused the damage by incompetence. But claiming Russian sabotage is just silly.

            1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

              Russia could make Europe freeze but it would get blamed for it. Better to make Europe freeze and have them blame the US. That breaks up to coalition against them. And Europe built that pipeline. And they will build another if necessary. It is no skin off Russia's nose.

              1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

                The US doesn't care about "coalition" otherwise the US wouldn't have been trying to politically torpedo NS2 for years. The US has EVERY interest in NS2 being gone, one way or another-- as Joe Biden put it.

              2. mad.casual   3 years ago

                And Europe built that pipeline. And they will build another if necessary. It is no skin off Russia’s nose.

                Except for the lost leverage and revenue until Europe decides to rebuild the pipeline... *if* they decide to rebuild the pipeline.

                I say *if* as there are very vocal and vested interests between the US and the EU that would prefer that the pipeline never existed or exist into the future.

                Further, any cries about "Putin's crazy!" are readily rebuffed by *decades* of overt messaging about said interests' willingness to liquidate their countrymen wholesale. Messaging that makes 'Russia Man' memes look sane.

              3. ElvisIsReal   3 years ago

                Germany voluntarily backing out of buying Russian oil doesn't mean German freezing it at the hands of the Russians.

                1. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

                  Nord Stream delivers natural gas, not oil, to Germany. In fact the pipeline was a joint venture. Yes the Germans have (kinda sorta) stopped buying both. But the infrastructure was still available in the event that the war in Ukraine doesn't last forever. That is no longer the case so war on.

                  1. ElvisIsReal   3 years ago

                    Okay, but the Germans refusing to buy the product isn't the fault of the Russians in any sane world.

                    1. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

                      Agreed.

          2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

            I don’t think the US did. I think it is more likely that the Russians did it to both make Europe freeze and to hopefully get them to blame it on the US for the reasons you give. That makes a lot more sense to me than the US doing it

            I disagree. They HAD the ability to make Germany freeze by turning off the tap. They had 100% control of the source valve. If they wanted Germany to freeze, they could have claimed that Germany violated some international law or custom (the West already has by appropriating Russian government property) and turned the tap off to lever concessions out of Germany. The idea that they blew up their own infrastructure that they control is the definition of insanity.

            Or is Joe Biden's sinister speech earlier this year going to be memory-holed?

        2. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

          If true, this is an act of war not just on Russia but also Germany, a NATO partner. This is how insane Nuland and the neocons are.

          1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

            You're damn straight it's an act of war.

        3. mad.casual   3 years ago

          But for the Russians to have done it would be some bizarro-world game of 14-D chess where they destroy the very thing the US doesn’t want, Germany needs and you control, for some kind of destabilizing effect on the West by implicating them in your false-flag operation. It borders on insane.

          And again, per the prior sentences, it's essentially Russia having Germany at gunpoint or a standoff, locking the exits, and then tossing the gun at their feet. Russia will get no more money, Euros, Marks, Rubles, or other, and Germany is now fully committed.

        4. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

          We'll find out soon enough if it even was sabotage, or just an engineering disaster. The Swedes are sending down a submersible to find out what happened.

          https://www.foxnews.com/world/sweden-sends-diving-vessel-investigate-nord-stream-pipelines-leak

          I'm most curious to see what the breaks in the pipelines look like, to see if it is sabotage, or if Hanlon's razor applies.

        5. Agammamon   3 years ago

          Guys, guys, guys - the most likely answer is 'russian incompetence'.

          This isn't exactly an uncommon thing in Russian petrochem industry. Or nuclear industry. Or any of their industries.

          They set a pipeline on fire a couple months ago.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

            Personally, I'm thinking Hanlon's razor right now. Someone at Gazprom seriously fucked up, and in typical Russian style, they're keeping very tight-lipped about it. How long after Chernobyl did it take for the outside world to hear about it?

            1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

              yeah, and once the outside world heard about it, they reported on it non-stop. Let's pretend for a nano second that Russia fucked up its primary leverage against the EU and the West... the one thing that might actually have the effect the sanctions were supposed to have. What, the Ukraine-war cheering west (which is printing dozens of stories today about the Ukraine counter-offensives) isn't curious about it... at all? Just 'huh, so... something about a pipeline... anyway, and on to you Bill about the Buffy the Vampire Slayer actress!"

              No, I stand by my assertions and the near total media blackout on the story is circumstantial evidence that I'm right.

            2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

              I mean, FFS, this is the geo-political equivalent of the 11th hour 10-yr-old rape victim abortion story. The Russians screwed up their biggest economic lever against the west just at the moment the West needed it to happen, and it doesn't even get a peep from the media. Jesus H. Christ, Hunter Biden's laptop got more mainstream coverage.

              1. mad.casual   3 years ago

                And this only scrapes the surface. Weaving several narratives together: we've been told since Deepwater Horizon by various sources that these lines weren't generally subject to concern about even ships crashing into them or ecoterrorists rupturing them but someone at one of the endpoints seemingly irreparably destroying them by flipping the wrong switch? And everybody from actual ecoterrorists to pundits effectively ignoring this decades Deepwater Horizon?

                1. Heedless   3 years ago

                  It’s a giant pressurized pipeline carrying flammable gas that can serve as its own oxidizer at high enough pressure.

                  The pipelines are relatively safe from outside interference because they are hard to get at, but the Russians have demonstrated repeatedly that they are capable of making any of the numerous screw ups that cause a pipeline to rupture or explode. And that’s in the course of normal operation, never mind a hasty and politically sensitive shut down.

                  1. mad.casual   3 years ago

                    But my understanding is that Russians aren't exclusively in charge of both ends of the line nor every foot along its length. Moreover, while I admit I've never designed an undersea pipeline, it seems odd that the flick of a switch at one end would cause a catastrophic failure at the most inaccessible part of the system rather than a series of progressively worse failures at more accessible points. And, the two together, even if the Russians are idiots, the Germans had a hand in the engineering (which doesn't completely rule out Russian stupidity as an explanation but...).

          2. mad.casual   3 years ago

            My understanding is that what empirical evidence we do have now (pressure drop rates, leakage plume size, locations, etc.) largely refutes this or at the very least, puts the probability of 'russian incompetence' well within the range of 'russian/WEF-Green insanity'.

            From a completely armchair perspective: if incompetence managed to blow up the line under 100m of water rather than at the much more accessible entrance/egress, the incompetence starts with German-Russian engineering.

        6. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

          I do get what you're saying, and I wouldn't put it past the administration to smack a couple spots on the pipeline with a sub, but I think it's a lot more likely it was due to sheer Russian incompetence at basic maintenance rather than anything nefarious on any one nation's part. This is the same country that fucked up Chernobyl, after all, and almost launched nukes against the US because their missile warning systems glitched and showed an incoming strike (stopped only by the Soviet officer who figured there's no way in hell the US would be stupid enough to launch nukes for no apparent reason).

      2. Minadin   3 years ago

        Hell, it could have been any number of environmentalist activist climate change cult groups, too.

        1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

          They don't have the capability.

          To my point about it being Germany-- Germany is in a state of political tension between the Greens and the other sane political parties. The Greens have made it clear that they're willing to let Germans freeze to death in service to climate change mitigation. The Greens are undoubtedly happy to see Nordstream 2 gone. But the Greens aren't in control of the military and the fact of the matter is Germany needed NS2.

          And attendant to this conversation, have you noticed the nearly zero coverage in the media about the environmental implications of this? I suspect it's because the media has made the same calculation I have and would rather just not talk about NS2, because they know the more they talk about it, the more it points to the US as the culprit, so best to just leave it alone.

          1. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

            And 3,2,1 it disappears from the news cycle. Let's talk about Florida Man and food trucks.

            1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

              It has disappeared from the news cycle. As someone who really doesn't watch the news (directly) I can't help escape big stories... if they're big stories.

              But let's play a game, what's on the front page of CNN today, lesse,

              Trump
              Hurricane
              Oath Keeper "planning Jan 6"
              Oath Keeprs trial
              Jan 6 and some guy named Ron Johnson re flagpoles as weapons
              Oath keeper leaders estranged wife.
              Trump instruction to nat'l archives.
              Jan 6 panel and trump atty Eastman
              Trump's violent rhetoric conjures chilling echoes
              Asteroid killed the dinosaurs created big tsunami
              Buffy the vampire actress reveals MS diagnosis
              Lorette Lynn dies at 90.
              Family of 4 missing in California
              Ukraine gains in east and south.
              North Kore fired a missle
              GOP states to get blns of dollars from climate bill they voted 'no' on.
              Student loan forgiveness.
              Trumps "racist" reference to Elaine Chao (whoever that is)
              Texas pastor prepares to witness execution of his church member.
              Anderson Cooper reflects on losing his brother.

              It gets less relevant from here.

              Let's try the Washington post

              NFL flawed rule as model of diversity.
              Trump white house, classified records routinely mishandled.
              1992 personal finance book still has cult following.
              FDA was right to warn about NyQuil chicken challenge
              Putin threatens nuclear war.
              the NFL is not doing all it can to help black coaches
              herschel Walker is a symptom. The GOP is the problem
              FBI got a tip the Oath Keepers plans for armed fight in Nov.
              Musk proposes closing deal for Twitter
              Post endorsements for DC Council and state education board.

              Ok, let's try... I dunno, the NYT

              Ukraine advances in its souther counteroffensive
              Soviet veteran insist he was scouting frontline for firewood, Ukrainian troops aren't buying it.
              Linda Ronstadt ONce Sang Stories, now she tells them with food.
              What do the coyotes of New York City eat.
              r&b hit from Steve Lacey is the #1 song in the country. (WHO?!!)
              The solution to America's Mental Health Crisis Already exists
              Must suggest buying twitter at original price
              Repubs rally behind Herschel Walker after report about abortion
              A man was attacked in California, was it racism or mental illness?
              Global deflation.
              What it will take to save boys and men (that's gotta be a doosy)
              California is actually making progress on building more housing.
              Risking everything to offer abortions across the state.

              The pipeline is a literal non story.

  40. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

    Unspeakable heresy.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/blue-checks-diplomats-bots-go-ballistic-over-elon-musks-proposed-russia-ukraine-peace

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

      WTF?
      https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/twtr-shares-soar-after-reports-musk-deal-proposal

      1. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

        Best news of the day for sure

      2. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

        Did yesterday's battle with the blue-checks over Ukraine Peace piss Musk off enough to just say 'fuck it'?

        Given what I read of the Battle of the Blue-Checks yesterday, Musk may just be doing this a "fuck you" to them. Not that I blame him. They kind of earned it.

    2. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

      Looks like a decent deal to me to end this. It's as close to a status quo antebellum as we might get.

      1. TheReEncogitationer   3 years ago (edited)

        Except that Putin doesn’t want just “the Donbass but no further,” and that Elon Musk isn’t one with skin, bones, flesh, blood, and brains in the game, and Putin, Dugin, and Kyrill all think this war is blessed by God, so there is no talking and negotiating with them.

        By the bye, you know who else make shitty cars and shitty apologetics for a mass-murdering dictator?

    3. Bill Dalasio   3 years ago

      Somebody ought to remind these jerkoffs that, if it weren't for Elon Musk restoring their comsat capabilities with Starlink, they'd be speaking (actually begging Vladimir Putin's forgiveness) in Russian right now.

      1. TheReEncogitationer   3 years ago

        Like Elon Musk is the only one who can provide sat commo. And forgiveness? To a former KGB butcher who started all this shit??? Not even if carrier pidgeons are the only way to spread the word!

        Elon Musk is crying "peace, peace" where there is no peace and needs to get out more on Earth.

  41. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

    Yeah. That'll work.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/germans-panic-buy-electric-heaters-authorities-warn-winter-gas-shortage

    1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

      There is a video floating around of Trump giving a speech at the UN warning of the dangers of Europe becoming dependent on Russian gas. During the speech, the German Ambassador to the UN is seen laughing at Trump. I am not kidding. The guy is laughing at Trump.

      Yeah, how is that working out? It is unbelievable how stupid the internationalist establishment actually is.

      1. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

        Yup. Orangeman was right.

        1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

          He still needs to be kept out of office at all costs. He's a threat to democracy. And by "democracy," of course, we mean the one world government as envisioned by our elitist overlords.

          1. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

            Thank you. Worldwide depression and nuclear war are all worth the price of stopping the Orange Man. Have you noticed how much nicer the Tweets are these days?

          2. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

            "threat to democracy" literally just translates two "not a globalist commie" at this point.

      2. JasonAZ   3 years ago

        "the German Ambassador to the UN"

        Well, I bet they have wood chippers in Germany right? As long as there is fuel to run it on...

    2. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

      This is the sort of shit that leads towards revolutions, and not nice ones either. The French Revolution was sparked by inflation combined with crop failure and a severe winter in 1788/1789. The Russian Revolution was sparked by WWI, inflation, and food shortages.

  42. Truthteller1   3 years ago

    I don't know what happened, but it got damn for sure wasn't grappling. Laughable.

    1. kcuch   3 years ago

      NS2 or the Cop?

  43. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

    Bloomberg is reporting that Elon Musk has now offered to buy Twitter at the agreed price. Twitter has to accept it after having sued him demanding he do so. I guess his legal strategy has changed to buying the company now and then suing the board later. Regardless, it looks like Musk is really going to own Twitter. The world may drown in all of the liberal tears over this.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-04/musk-proposes-to-proceed-with-twitter-deal-at-54-20-a-share

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

      Nice. Now we'll have disclosure on Twitter and watch the Bluechecks cry and seethe. Their tears will be delicious.

      1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

        Musk also will operate it to make money. That means he will get rid of the bots and invite all of the people Twitter has kicked off back onto the platform. The blue checks are going to have a stroke.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

          Does Twitter do ads? That's the only way I can see it making money.

          1. ElvisIsReal   3 years ago

            Twitter does ads, but you can also pay them to promote your posts. I could envision all sorts of other bonuses you could bundle for a 'premium' subscription. The Twitter audience is huge and accessing them IS valuable, but how valuable and for how long remains to be seen.

      2. ElvisIsReal   3 years ago

        Exactly the case. Unless the swamp figures out how to torpedo it again.

        https://simulationcommander.substack.com/p/musk-to-purchase-twitter

        I’ve written multiple times about how the government is using media companies (including the social variety) as an extension of the state, getting people banned for ‘wrongthink’ or even censoring entire stories before a presidential election. And the revelations just continue to come out:

        (EIP story)

        Nothing to see here! Just the government acting in accordance with private industry to censor the political speech of others — including the sitting political adversaries of the current administration! (If only we had a name for that!)

        All these signs pointed to Twitter remaining in its current (awful) hands. But a lawsuit filed by the Twitter shareholders may be the key to Musk ultimately acquiring Twitter after all. The shareholders claimed that the ‘bot talk’ was simply Musk trying to back out of the deal — a deal that they didn’t even vote on until two weeks ago. Now to avoid going to trial, Musk has shoved all his chips into the middle of the table, once again offering to buy the company at an inflated price.

        With so much control on the line, the game is essentially the same as it was in April: How does the Twitter Swamp find a way to avoid the Musk deal to prevent him from looking under the hood and telling us all about what he finds there? For now, it seems like they may have painted themselves into a corner by villainizing Musk.

        1. mad.casual   3 years ago

          Unless the swamp figures out how to torpedo it again.

          Worse. Nationalize Starlink.

    2. JasonAZ   3 years ago

      Oh, the tears are delicious. Especially when Trump's acct gets reactivated!

  44. Hattori Hanzo   3 years ago

    A few years ago, here in Phoenix, a police officer "committed suicide". On duty. On a city street. He was preparing to testify against a corrupt cop.

  45. voluntaryist   3 years ago

    If a trial ensues and a guilty verdict is reached, would the SCOTUS exempt the guilty cop using "qualified" (unqualified) immunity?
    I thought cops were off limits, by ruling of a federal judge, e.g., if a cop's actions are abusive, no defense is allowed, except to file a complaint later. Now, even that is not allowed? Cops can murder cops? Ok, how is that "law & order"? Isn't it "law & chaos"?

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