A Senate Candidate's Belated Acknowledgment of Biden's Victory Is a Reality Check for a Trump-Dominated GOP
Until he won the Republican nomination in New Hampshire, Don Bolduc insisted that the presidential election was stolen.

During a debate last month, Don Bolduc, a retired U.S. Army brigadier general who was seeking the Republican nomination to oppose Sen. Maggie Hassan (D–N.H.) in November, unambiguously asserted that Donald Trump won the 2020 presidential election. "I signed a letter with 120 other generals and admirals saying that Trump won the election, and, damn it, I stand by my letter," Bolduc said, eliciting cheers and applause from the audience. "I'm not switching horses, baby. This is it."
Yesterday, two days after Bolduc won the Republican Senate nomination, he suddenly renounced that reality-defying position. "I've done a lot of research on this," he said on Fox News, "and I've spent the past couple weeks talking to Granite Staters all over the state from every party, and I have come to the conclusion—and I want to be definitive on this—the election was not stolen….Elections have consequences, and, unfortunately, President Biden is the legitimate president of this country."
That startling reversal starkly illustrates the challenge that Republican candidates face in a party that has been organized around one man's self-flattering delusions. They recognize that reinforcing those delusions gives them an edge among Republican primary voters, as reflected in the positive response to Bolduc's fiery comments during that August 14 debate and in Tuesday's election results. But they also understand that endorsing wacky conspiracy theories is apt to alienate moderates and independents in a general election. That prospect is especially worrying in a purple state like New Hampshire, where registered Republicans have only a slight edge over registered Democrats and two-fifths of voters are unaffiliated.
Bolduc's solution is both audacious and risky. As recently as a month ago, more than a year and a half after the 2020 election, he claimed to be firmly convinced that systematic fraud had delivered a phony victory to Joe Biden. But since then, he says, a combination of "research" and conversations with New Hampshire voters has persuaded him that Biden actually won. The excuse he offered on Fox News was less than completely satisfying: "Live and learn, right?"
Any voter who does not share Bolduc's devotion to Trump might reasonably wonder why the candidate did not bother to research this subject before publicly, repeatedly, and confidently insisting that the election had been stolen. In the 21 months that elapsed between the election and last month's debate, there was plenty of time to weigh the evidence in favor of that politically explosive and socially divisive proposition. But even after the claim that Bolduc endorsed drove a violent mob of Trump supporters to attack the U.S. Capitol in a vain attempt to prevent Biden from taking office, Bolduc wants us to believe, he did not bother to investigate the empirical basis for that claim.
That explanation suggests Bolduc is reckless, feckless, dishonest, or all three. New Hampshire voters will have to decide whether those qualities recommend him as a member of the U.S. Senate. He is counting on them to overlook the implications of his excuse.
If that strategy works, the Senate Majority PAC will look pretty foolish for spending millions of dollars on ads aimed at boosting Bolduc and hurting his chief rival, New Hampshire Senate President Chuck Morse (R–Salem), who lost on Tuesday by a bit more than one percentage point. Morse, the establishment's favorite, was endorsed by New Hampshire's Republican governor, Chris Sununu, who described Bolduc as a "conspiracy-type candidate." But as in Maryland, Pennsylvania, and Michigan, the Democrats figured the Trumpiest candidate would be the easiest to beat in the general election.
Bolduc deserved that distinction. But judging from the August 14 debate, his rivals were also terrified of alienating Trump supporters by challenging the stolen-election fantasy. Here is the question that prompted Bolduc to reiterate the conviction he has now repudiated: "Do you believe that we can conclusively determine who won the 2020 presidential election, and what role should the federal government play in getting to the bottom of it or handling our elections, if any?"
Two of Bolduc's opponents for the Republican nomination, cryptocurrency entrepreneur Bruce Fenton and Londonderry Town Manager Kevin Smith, a former state legislator, also participated in the debate, which was sponsored by the Government Integrity Project, a conservative group based in Windham, New Hampshire. Fenton and Smith were less bold than Bolduc, trying to placate Trump's followers without sounding crazy. But their professed agnosticism made it clear that they did not have the courage to say which universe they inhabit: the one where Biden legitimately won the election, notwithstanding whatever scattered fraud may have occurred, or the one where fraud—including the orchestrated, multistate manipulation of voting machines by an international cabal that faked hundreds of thousands or millions of votes—was so systematic that it denied Trump his rightful victory.
Once he won the nomination, Bolduc felt secure enough to renounce his residency in the latter universe. But before then, he proudly lived there. Fenton and Smith, by contrast, tried to straddle both worlds.
After a stammering start, Fenton averred that there were "massive, massive issues" with the election, to the extent that "we can't tell what's true." Fenton then tried to shift attention to social media moderation policies, reinforced by government pressure, that suppress false claims about the presidential election, saying "they've censored it, just like a third-world dictatorship."
Fenton called the question of who won the election "one of the most partisan issues there is," noting that "people on the left" get "outright angry" at the claim that Trump did. He added that "everybody, on the right and the left, should agree that the elections are fair, and if they're not, it's a serious problem we absolutely must address."
When pressed to say whether it is clear who won the 2020 election, Fenton replied, "No, because we don't have the information. We can say that there was a lot of fraud. There was a lot of problems, for sure, absolutely."
Smith attempted the same sort of balancing act. "It's very unlikely that Joe Biden got 81 million votes," he declared. "Unfortunately, we may never have a full accounting of exactly what happened, because, again, they're not allowing the investigations to occur. We know there were irregularities right here in Windham…but we never got a full investigation into what's going on here. We saw the same thing in Bedford as well." If elected to the Senate, he promised, he would make sure that "we will have investigations into all of these irregularities, because election integrity is a pillar of our democratic republic."
Morse did not participate in the Government Integrity Project's debate. But during a September 8 debate sponsored by WMUR, the Hearst station in Manchester, he agreed with Trump that the FBI's investigation of purloined government documents at Mar-a-Lago had been "politicized." He added that "we need to investigate the management" of the FBI and the Justice Department.
Although Morse's record is pretty conservative, he was frequently described as a "moderate" compared to Bolduc, mainly because his support for Trump was not fervent enough to make him embrace wild claims that were rejected by election experts, the courts, and a wide array of Republican officials, including Trump's own attorney general. By that standard, Fenton and Smith are also moderates, since their cowardly kowtowing to Trump's followers stopped short of declaring Biden an illegitimate president.
Bloomberg Opinion columnist Jonathan Bernstein suggests that Bolduc's about-face presents Trump with a challenge. "While the former president's grip on the Republican Party is partly based on how helpful he can be to candidates seeking nominations," he writes, "the main reason Republicans fear him is the possibility that he could turn against them in November, either by asking voters to stay home or even [by] suggesting they vote for GOP candidates' Democratic or third-party rivals." If Trump never actually does that, Bernstein argues, Republican candidates will be less afraid of crossing him.
"Bolduc seems like a very good test case, given that Trump didn't endorse him in the primary and that his reversal was so complete and total," Bernstein writes. "If Trump supports him anyway, or even if he just ignores the whole episode, people in the party inclined to oppose him but hesitant about the political cost will be more likely to think of him as a paper tiger."
That seems like wishful thinking to me. A large majority of Republican voters—75 percent or more, according to several polls—are still unwilling to concede that Biden legitimately won the 2020 election. As long as winning primaries depends on placating Trump supporters, Republicans will continue to obfuscate or deny a basic historical fact.
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I'm getting faint whiffs of Russiagate here. Anybody else smell that?
They're only faint if your nose is stuffed up.
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I'm just glad we can finally say 2020 was the cleanest election ever because of this one statement.
Only because it's the one that was most investigated for malfeasance that didn't end up existing.
Right. Now do 2016.
That one was investigated too and lots of malfeasance was found, of the foreign interference sort. Didn't you read the Mueller report?
Republicans commit high crimes and Democrats don't. That's the consistency you're looking for, and I really don't know why it's so difficult. I didn't make the world this way, I was just born in it.
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Wait, do you actually believe that?
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It's not a question of belief but of evidence. We both have access to the same evidence. But you choose to read trash rightwing shitblogs instead of the evidence.
And you choose to ignore bags of Trump ballots found in a ditch as well as a dumpster, videos of hidden suitcases full of ballots , and at least two documentaries showing how certain individuals were stuffing drop boxes repeatedly. Democrats are just not going to put themselves in jail.
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What's your evidence Tony.. That Russia ran public promotional ads for Trump during his campaign? lol.... Oh the horror!!/s
Remember when you fucktards used to call people traitors for opposing the Iraq war?
Russia has been trying to hurt the United States, and Trump was their weapon. Trump stole documents that are never read without a guy with a briefcase handcuffed to him in the room and stashed them in a shoebox.
"Hey look a unicorn!!!" ... response? lol....
And let me guess. A shoe box is actually code-name for Russian operatives, Hunter Biden would never sell-out to a foreign nation, and we know all this because Trump 'hurt' National Socialism (i.e. Nazism) growth in the USA and apparently I guess Russia wanted the USA to be more the USA instead of a Nazi-Empire so Trump was their weapon of choice.....
lol.... I see you still live by the 'no thinking' rule.
Trash christianofascist shitbloggers come here to argue with Tony Fabian. The libertarians here are imposed upon by looters saying true things about each other. But we have known all those things for decades--hence the 1972 Libertarian Party.
Tony's a fucking idiot. So yeah, he believes anything that supporters his narrative.
No it wasn't. Recounts are not audits.
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I guess this speaks to the value of doing your research. Had Gen. Bolduc done he research earlier he could have come to the conclusion earlier and would possible have lost the primary.
BTW - how much reseach is needed to come to the common sense conclusion.
The strategy is clear: First pretend to be completely insane in order to win your primary, then try to do a 180 and fake being a normal everyday person with an above-room-temperature IQ for the general election. Politicians are like hookers: tonight, for the right price, they can be whatever you want.
A large majority of Republican voters—75 percent or more, according to several polls—are still unwilling to concede that Biden legitimately won the 2020 election.
Well, it's Biden, for starters. With each passing day, it becomes increasingly obvious why skepticism existed. Had the candidate been a sentient being, those percentages might be far lower.
And also plenty of non-Republican voters who read that Time Magazine article by a Democratic Party propagandist bragging about how the election was rigged.
What's the percentage of Democrats who think Trump stole the 2016 election? I mean, it was investigated to hell and back.
From this year
According to the latest Rasmussen Reports survey, 72% of Democrats said that “Russia succeeded” in changing the outcome of the election that vaulted former President Donald Trump into the White House.
https://legalinsurrection.com/2022/04/rasmussen-poll-most-democrats-still-believe-russia-stole-2016-election-from-hillary/
Rasmussen? Seriously? Why don't you use someone with better methodology and practices, like your local tarot card reader?
So your claim is that believing a disinformation campaign was successful is the same as believing in massive, disproven, and uni-partisan fraud (since more proven cases of voter fraud were perpetrated by Trump voters)?
That's an untenable position for someone who wants to be taken seriously to hold. Oh, wait. It's Jesse. Never mind.
See Tony above.
It is sort of like you haven't heard from a friend for some time, go to her home and see upended furniture, broken knickknacks, and some spray of blood on the wall. You never find a body nor ever hear from her again. No body, so no proof a crime was ever committed.
The 2020 election was a lot like that: election rules changed by fiat "because of COVID," mail-in ballots spread around like confetti during Mardi Gras, and no one allowed nearer than 60 feet of the ballot counting, in spite of laws allowing witnessing, also "because of COVID."
Evidence everywhere, but no body (envelopes are separated from ballots, and the envelopes with signatures on them are disposed.) That most of this happened in heavily Democrat counties just adds to the suspicion.
That said, we have to act as if we believe in the honesty of this and all elections, except the 2016 Presidential election and the 2018 Georgia election.
You really think a conspiracy of thousands on such an important issue could maintain silence for this long?
The people behind Russiagate were a much smaller crew of government spooks, and it took less than 6 months for the first one to be identified. By this point, if such a massive ballot stuffing operation existed, someone involved would have been busted for cocaine possession and offered up the voter fraud for a plea, or would have spilled the beans during Step 8 of AA, or just wanted the reward that the conservative news outlets would pay.
No leaks implies no conspiracy.
They haven't been silent.
It doesn’t require coordination, hence no actual conspiracy.
Oh, and you should probably pick up an issue of Time Magazine.
“How likely is it that Democrats stole votes or destroyed pro-Trump ballots in several states to ensure that Biden would win?” Rasmussen asked.
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Surprisingly, 30 percent of Democrats responded that it was likely, with 20 percent believing it was “very likely.”
Wow, do you beat your wife with that logic?
Don't be a dick, Tony. Call out whoever you want, but don't use casual accusations of domestic violence as a baseless personal attack.
Shut up, wife beating paedophile. We know what Trump perverts are here for, and it's not normal or acceptable, it's abuse of women and kids.
Primary run to the right or left; general run back to the middle. Why is anyone surprised at something that dates back 2000 years?
That was right about when Julius was running for Caesar.
Now do whats-her-name in Georgia, Stacey Adams? who still claims she won in 2018. Then Hillary, who I believe has never admitted she lost and Trump won in 2016. And the entire DNC, who were so pissed about 2016 that they impeached Trump twice for even flimsier excuses than the previous two impeachments, and then sent the FBI to raid him in preparation for a third impeachment.
Go ahead, Sullum. Try to be fair and balanced. I don't think you can.
But those people are not orange monsters of the unacceptable variety.
Granted, Abrams is an over stuffed know it all, and Hillary is scary in general, but they are the media's acceptable monsters.
Stacey Adams also did extra "research" to flip her abortion position. Is there going to be an article asking if she is reckless, feckless or dishonest?
Stacey Abrams?
Ajsloss?
To tide you over while you wait, here's Reason taking a dig at Abrams for a bit of hypocrisy:
https://reason.com/2022/02/07/stacy-abrams-masks-children-school-photo/
Now find the one on election claims. Or abortion like the comment was about.
That seems like wishful thinking to me. A large majority of Republican voters—75 percent or more, according to several polls—are still unwilling to concede that Biden legitimately won the 2020 election. As long as winning primaries depends on placating Trump supporters, Republicans will continue to obfuscate or deny a basic historical fact.
So there must be a standing order that requires daily legitimization of the 2020 election here at Reason. Quit embarrassing yourselves already.
Trump is still spreading the lie daily, and thousands of his followers are still lapping it up. This candidate was spreading the lie, until he flip flopped -- so, seems like such articles are still relevant.
The biggest lie was 2020 was the cleanest election in history. The latest audit found 3-8% deltas between votes recieved and tallies given in most counties that actually retained records as required by law.
But keep going with cleanest election ever.
The "latest audit"? Do you mean the latest Trump rally? Or maybe the latest analysis from the Daily Stormer?
If you want to claim that fraud was discovered (and don't want to look like a credulous fool), some specificity and context would be helpful.
Tell us more about how Republicans are responsible for the Reichstag fire and the Big Lie. You know you want to!
Maybe it’s me, but this writer seems to have an obsession with Trump and his supporters. He thinks he’s invisible by being in plain sight.
I’m not sure what itch he’s trying to satisfy, but he’s like the guy who endlessly picks at his wound and then wonders why it doesn’t heal.
It's called being an assignment to write articles about a given "beat".
I thought they weren't reporters.
You might have a point if they stuck to their “beats”. But they don’t and you’re an asshole.
You know who else justified their actions by claiming they were just following orders?
Really? You just godwinned Jacob Sullum for writing mean blog posts about Dear Leader Trump.
Actually, I’m ridiculing the excuse you offered for his TDS tedium that long ago reached diminishing returns.
And you did it with a godwin.
Note to foreign readers: looters suffering from Biden Derangement Syndrome flock here to belch tu quoque at looters with Trump Derangement Syndrome and vice-versa. None of them are welcome at National Socialist Review or Mother Jones.
Sullum is an omniscient being. He is able to discern reality in a way that his lessers are simply blind to. Once he declares something to be an historical fact the debate is over.
Come on, he has performed his auto de fe, what more do you want?
Does he show up to campaign events in his military uniform?
No, it just illustrates the equivocation and propaganda that progressives and Reason participate in, and the difficulties rational people have discussing actual problems with the 2020 election.
Terms like "stolen" and "legitimate" have both a legal meaning and a moral meaning. Legally, of course, the election wasn't "stolen", that's just a fact. But practice, Democrats manipulated the election to achieve this outcome. In that sense, it was "stolen".
But that’s not what Trump and his supporters are saying. They are claiming that it was legally stolen: that a grand conspiracy of 2000 mules stuffed fraudulent ballots into the drop boxes, and some of them also believe that there was good old-fashioned ballot stuffing going on in several democratic precincts.
If you disagree with that, they consider you a tool of the deep state and a traitor to the cause.
Yes, and they are making good arguments for that.
And that's a perfectly reasonable belief as well.
I fail to see what you are trying to get at. In a formal, legal sense, Biden is president. In a rational and moral sense, there are strong reasons to believe that in a fair and accurate counting of votes, he would have lost.
Are people not entitled to have such opinions in the US anymore?
Nope, not until a Republican wins again.
"In a rational and moral sense, there are strong reasons to believe that in a fair and accurate counting of votes, he would have lost."
No, there aren't. That is literally what has been disproven over and over and over again. Continuing to believe it is your right as an American, much like believing in Bigfoot, alien abductions, and Elvis sightings. Just don't expect rational people to join you.
It is impossible to prove or disprove anything meaningful about US election validity or outcomes: US voting and election procedures lack the necessary record keeping, auditability, and conformance to well-defined procedures.
That's been true for decades. It's why both Democrats and Republicans challenge election results just about every election.
I didn't start complaining about this just in 2020. The ridiculousness of US elections has been clear since at least Bush v. Gore.
If you believe in the 2000 mules, you are merely demonstrating that you lack even the most basic understanding of statistics.
If you believe in the ballot stuffing, you have to also believe in a code is silence among the stuffers unprecedented in the history of political conspiracies.
You can make a good argument that the last minute scrambling over the rules was unfair, and you can similarly make a good argument that media companies (and some in other fields) conspired to make Trump look bad going into the election. But there are no good arguments that the election was actually stolen.
Sorry, misposted.
I neither believe nor disbelieve 2000 Mules; I haven't looked into it enough.
But since you think you have a compelling argument using "most basic statistics", please do go ahead and make your argument.
I would think that illegal changes to voting rules and media collusion themselves amount to "stealing the election".
If you are referring to vote counts, I believe that vote counts in all US elections for the past few decades have been highly inaccurate because there is no reliable chain of custody, no possibility of meaningful audits, and because of a legal standard on counting based on "voter intent". If you don't understand that, you lack even the most basic understanding of statistics.
'I would think that illegal changes to voting rules and media collusion themselves amount to "stealing the election"."
So voters voting for the candidate they wanted to, combined with any media with a partisan lean, equals "stealing the election"? By that logic, every election ever held was stolen, since both of those things have happened in every election ever held.
If you believe in the ballot stuffing, you have to also believe in a code is silence among the stuffers unprecedented in the history of political conspiracies.
You all keep saying shit like this.
What 'silence'? You all bragged about what you'd done and how you'd done it.
you believe in the 2000 mules, you are merely demonstrating that you lack even the most basic understanding of statistics.
If you believe in the ballot stuffing, you have to also believe in a code is silence among the stuffers unprecedented in the history of political conspiracies.
You can make a good argument that the last minute scrambling over the rules was unfair, and you can similarly make a good argument that media companies (and some in other fields) conspired to make Trump look bad going into the election. But there are no good arguments that the election was actually stolen.
So it wasn't stolen, but it was "stolen"?
In the narrow legal sense, he did "legitimately" win. In the broader sense of morality, fairness, and the rule of law, he did not.
Yes, he did. By every measure, backed up by a ridiculous number of audits (and audits of the audits, and audits of those audits).
Your unwillingness to accept evidence doesn't impact its authenticity.
Vote counting isn't the issue. It is a fact that numerous states violated election laws in a way that gave Biden a massive advantage. It is a fact that numerous media suppressed vital information in a way that interfered in the election. It is a fact that numerous foreign governments interfered in the US election in order to benefit Biden. All of that alone makes Biden's win illegitimate.
That doesn't mean that Trump would have won otherwise, it means that in a country that holds free and fair elections, the election would have been declared invalid and repeated. But like some banana republic or communist nation, Americans believe the sky will fall if an election needs to be repeated because something was wrong.
As for the vote counts themselves, US elections don't keep sufficient records to detect most forms of fraud; the audits are meaningless. Likewise, the legal standard of "voter intent" instead of "strict conformance to laws" means that vote counts themselves are largely meaningless. Again, that doesn't prove that there was sufficient fraud to change the election, it means we don't know. And since this isn't getting fixed, we won't know in future elections either.
Voting in America is a joke.
So your complaint boils down to "Sure, they voted for who they wanted to and more people voted for Biden than Trump (both in the states he won and in the country as a whole). But they shouldn't have been allowed to vote, so Trump won."?
That's called the will of the people. That means Trump lost. Process complaints have been around for as long as there have been elections. That doesn't invalidate anything.
Unless, of course, you have a desired outcome and you keep changing your complaints as they are proven to be irrelevant to the outcome. Could that be what's happening in this case, since every examination of the data and the facts proves Trump lost but one party and their people still don't believe it?
"That explanation suggests Bolduc is reckless, feckless, dishonest, or all three." And also a hypocrite.
GOP Primary = Appeal to the party nutcases.
General Election = Tack to the center.
Says it all.
BUT DEMOCRATS DO IT TOO!!!!!
No, they don't.
Centrists always defeat the idiot "progressives" like Bernie Sanders.
Obama 2008 "I will cut the $1.3 trillion deficit Bush left us in half"
Progressives "TRAITOR! SPEND THAT MONEY ON US!"
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He might be a "Faggot for Trump" (your words), but he does not post kiddie porn, so he's well above you.
turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, a TDS-addled steaming pile of lefty shit and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
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God damn you’re such a retarded piece of shit.
Are you kidding? The Democratic party is full of nutcases: The Squad, Markey, Pelosi, Al Franken, Barney Frank, Obama, Sanders (who is a senator after all), and too many others to list. People who are political extremists, people who openly admire mass murderers, people living with prostitutes, people sleeping with Chinese spies, people politically tied to Jim Jones, Alinsky, terrorists, segregationists, Ku Klux Klan, and eugenicists.
That's the Democratic party for you.
Cults work because the human brain often finds that self-confirmation feels better than learning facts, especially when those facts contradict existing beliefs, suggesting logically that you are wrong about something or, indeed, a moron.
Everyone likes to think they're smart, especially the very stupid. Whether Trumpists give up their lies is not a matter of argument but a matter of physiology. I'm sure there's a spectrum from hopelessly gullible to persuadable, but keep in mind that the brain is motivated by feeling good, not knowing facts. Rationality is a discipline you have to learn, like playing the violin, and without practice, all you have is blind, dumb feeling.
To use a phrase from another era, the Trumpists aren't explaining that the election was stolen, they are feeling its theft at us.
Now do the 2016 election, and do 2018 Georgia for Stacy Abrams and 2000, and yeah, 2004 while you're at it. C'mon man, you're definitely holding the idiot ball tonight.
What generally accepted evidence do I deny in any of those cases?
That Bush did not win, that Trump did not win, that Abrams lost.
Do I get to just make shit up other people believe too?
Imagine being such a cultist that you accuse others of being in a cult because they disagree with you.
Not at all. It's the total worship of the dear leader, I should think.
Not one person here worships Trump. Not one.
Tony has to pretend there's a cult. Otherwise, he actually has to address substance rather than dismissing those who disagree with him.
A lotta sockpuppets sure do...
Lotta TDS-addled assholes claim so; we can hope TDS is fatal, so shit piles like this end up dead sooner rather than later.
Yes, Tony. And you are a prime specimen of a cult victim.
Literally everything you type is a lie.
You are either a paid bot or or you consume media like a fat kid consumes the 10 o'clock snack after second dinner.
It ain't broccoli!
No Tony, they are right. The left in this country are a cult, and you are just projecting.
"Literally everything you type is a lie.
You are either a paid bot or or you consume media like a fat kid consumes the 10 o'clock snack after second dinner."
This from someone is properly described by these same words, and is obviously too stupid to understand that.
Eat shit and die, scumbag.
No, Tony, I don't lie.
And neither do you. You really are as deluded and ignorant as you appear to be. You really have drunk the socialist cool aid all the way.
So your assuming it's stupidity? Yeah, I can go with that.
Hence, socialists.
So? How does that make Trumpanzees different from Shrillarites? Self-deception, the root of all evil, is as thick in The Kleptocracy as in the communo-fascist socialist parties of the 1930s. Looters lie to themselves, then expect us to pretend to believe the lies too.
"So? How does that make Trumpanzees different from Shrillarites?..."
Pretty simple: "Trumpanzees" exist only in the fantasies of TDS-addled lefty shits like you.
Have no idea what "Shrillarites" is intended to convey, other than one more symptom of your TDS-addled assholery.
Four years. Four years. And Stacey Abrams still hasn't admitted that she lost a legitimate election.
Trumpistas have been spending their Patreon money trying to get Tatsuya Ishida to turn Sinfest comics into a platform for superstitious rednecks, antichoice televangelists, girl-bulliers with green teeth and Frauenschaft harridan recruiters. Now Orange Hitlerites are stuck with the bill in time to lose their elections as well. Sayonara Chumpanzees!
TDS-addled steaming piles of lefty shit have been wasting bandwidth proving their stupidity, steaming pile of lefty shit.
An ex-Presidential Candidate's Belated Acknowledgment of Her Loss Is a Reality Check for a Clinton-Dominated Democratic Party
Sullum, fuck off and die, you slimy pile of TDS-addled shit.
What color is the sky on your world, OP?
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So.... Since all this research is at everyone's disposal what was the explanation that as high as 97% mail-in mystery votes were in Biden's favor??
Oh let me guess; Democrats all got together and decide they'd tell the teacher their dog caught COVID so 97% of them had to turn in their homework late....
I don't mind reasonable justification but so far the only 'reason' anyone can come up with is "just because" it was a fair election (period)... Well you can stuff your (period) up where the sun doesn't shine. I don't buy it.
And it freak-en hilarious to 'research' enough to find out the only 'legitimacy' used for mail-in voting is that it consistently matches results from in-person voting. Talk about evidence of a fraud-ed election. The very 'legitimacy' case for mail-in voting was wildly violated.
Another anti-trump, anti-rrpublican election hit piece with zero implications for libertianism.
I sure hope you guys are charging by the column inch for all of this propaganda.
Are there any staff libertarians who want to go form a libertarian magazine?
I take it Sullum hasn't noticed that those who question the regime are being tossed in hail or visited by the FBI. If only he were a journalist and thought to question such actions instead of a propagandist cheering for the arrest of political rivals on the basis of their political differences.
"Right-wingers upset that non-right-wing site publishes non-right-wing articles, whiners at 11".
Libertarianism is an ideology on the right side of the American political spectrum.
Left-wing ideologies are fundamentally incompatible with libertarianism.
And right-wing ideologies are incompatible with civilized human society. So if you insist, libertarianism can join the rest on the ash heap of history.
Right wing ideologies (Christian conservatives, monarchies, Bismarck-style democracies, libertarian-style minarchism) created civilized human society.
Left wing ideologies (progressivism, socialism, communism, fascism) have the declared objective of destroying civilized human society.
Right wing ideologies (Christian conservatives, monarchies, Bismarck-style democracies, libertarian-style minarchism) created civilized human society.
Pace "Life of Brian" - "What have the Greeks, the Romans, the Umayyads, the Renaissance and the Enlightenment ever done for us?"
Pace an intelligent human being: Fuck off and die, steaming pile of lefty shit.
Given the Life of Brian quote, you agree with me then?
Looters--communists, socialists, fascists, nationalsocialists, republicans, greens, democrats and Wallace dixiecrats all worship, revere and value the initiation of deadly force as a means and end in itself. Libertarians understand that the Second Amendment and nuclear weapons have doomed those losers to extinction.
"...Libertarians understand that the Second Amendment and nuclear weapons have doomed those losers to extinction..."
And yet here you are, steaming pile of lefty shit.
Libertarianism is an ideology on the right side of the American political spectrum.
Wrong-o. It's not part of the traditional one-dimensional political spectrum.
Indeed, libertarianism is at root antithetical to right-wing political thinking because it is not only anti-authoritarian, it has not, as an ideology, ever been implemented, anywhere, and the conservative nature of right-wing thought thus rejects libertarianism as an untested ideology. (See Oakeshott).
However, right-wingers find aspects of libertarianism appealing - as regards the gubmint staying away from them, while they're quite happy seeing the gubmint going into other people's houses, schools, vaginas, etc. Little different from people describing themselves as Christians while holding to principles strongly at variance with the teachings of that brown Jewish socialist - because they find just a few aspects of Christianity appealing.
"Wrong-o. It's not part of the traditional one-dimensional political spectrum..."
Correct, but lefty shit piles like you have np place under that tent.
Oh fuck off you tedious bozo.
Prefer 'tedious' to fucking TDS-addled pile of lefty shit.
Fuck off and die, but not before, as a "libertarian", you tell us how FDR was your BFF as a POTUS, asshole.
Never said he was, Stop lying, you dingleberry.
Yeah, just your fav over Trump, and now doing your best to duck and weave, hoping no one remembers, steaming pile of lefty shit.
Fuck off and die; make your family proud, the world a better place and your dog happy, asswipe.
It isn't just that the American right-wing finds some libertarian ideas appealing. Most people that think of themselves as libertarian have more than enough animosity to the Democratic Party and its goals that they will align with the Republican Party if they feel that they have to choose one or the other. Whether it is for voters or candidates, minor parties are not a place to actually have any direct influence on policy. At most, they make the two major parties try and keep them from drawing off a few percent of their likely voters in swing districts.
In practice, libertarianism is supportive of the right wing in the U.S. because of this.
This is the lefty shit pile who approved of murder as in order to keep proles from putting their feet on the desks of the people he worships:
JasonT20
February.6.2022 at 6:02 pm
“How many officers were there to stop Ashlee Babbitt and the dozens of people behind her from getting into the legislative chamber to do who knows what?...”
Fuck off and die, asshole.
American conservatism isn't part of the traditional one-dimensional political spectrum either.
This:
"Trump-Dominated GOP"
is chatter.
It's kinda like Kerry Awn told a critic after a concert at Soap Creek Saloon in Austin. "We don't give a shit whether you liked the show or not. We GOT your money." Orango-Hitler needs to learn you cain't brainwash all of the Republicans all of the time.
Stuff your TDS up your ass, lefty pile of shit. Your head is really looking for company.
And then, please make the world a far better place; eat shit and die.
While I didn't vote for Trump or Biden, I do feel that there were irregularities with the disputed election. Not saying that the election was stolen, not saying that there was enough fraud to have changed the outcome.
What I'm saying is that there was irregularities that should be investigated. Not avoided because of lack of standing like the court case. It is the job of the various secretaries of state to ensure that their state conducts free and fair elections.
Over the last few decades voter confidence has waned, not just the last election that the corporate media sycophants what you to believe. They have memory holed history, and shockingly recent history.
You understand that rigging the game - results in an outcome - but the game was stilled rigged. Several of the swing states had their covid related election exceptions over turned post - election.
If these illegal policies return for the upcoming election - it's either because the GOP is incompetent, or collaborating - that's really all there is too it...