Lindsey Graham's Abortion Ban, Which Would Override State Laws, Shows Contempt for Federalism
The Republican senator improbably claims his bill is authorized by the 14th Amendment and the Commerce Clause.
The federal abortion ban that Sen. Lindsey Graham (R–S.C.) proposed yesterday is moderate compared to state laws that have been enacted or taken effect since the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade in June. But it is based on an audacious claim of congressional authority to regulate abortion that obliterates the constitutional distinction between state and federal powers. If successful, Graham's reasoning would renationalize a controversy that Roe's opponents have long argued should be settled state by state.
Graham's bill, which has provoked more dismay than enthusiasm among his Republican colleagues, would make it a federal felony, punishable by up to five years in prison, to perform an abortion at 15 weeks of gestation or later. Its very name, the Protecting Pain-Capable Unborn Children From Late-Term Abortions Act, is contentious. Graham controversially argues that "an unborn child is capable of experiencing pain at least by 15 weeks gestational age," and he arbitrarily defines abortions at that point, early in the second trimester, as "late-term." But in practical terms, a 15-week ban is far milder than the restrictions that many states have imposed or begun to enforce in recent months.
In 2019, according to data collected by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), just 8 percent of U.S. abortions were performed after 13 weeks of gestation. By contrast, bans that apply after fetal cardiac activity can be detected—which typically happens around six weeks, before many women even realize they are pregnant—cover a large majority of abortions. The CDC reports that 57 percent of U.S. abortions were performed after six weeks in 2019. A substantial share of the rest also would have been covered by "heartbeat" laws. Some state bans go even further, covering nearly all abortions at any point after conception.
Graham's bill would permit abortion after the 15-week cutoff when a doctor deems it necessary to "save the life of a pregnant woman" or in cases involving rape or incest. While the latter two exceptions are widely supported, even by people who describe themselves as "pro-life," many anti-abortion activists and politicians oppose them. In July, the Poynter Institute reported that 15 of 22 states with "new or forthcoming limits on abortion" did not make exceptions for rape or incest.
Notwithstanding these relatively moderate elements, Graham's bill would establish a new precedent for national restrictions on the timing of abortion. Activists hope to build on that precedent with progressively stricter limits that would apply even in states where most legislators and voters oppose them.
That approach has generated a backlash not only from pro-choice Democrats but from pro-life Republicans. To some extent, those Republicans are worried about the political cost of broaching this issue less than two months before the midterm elections. But several also have implied that national abortion restrictions are contrary to the principles of federalism.
"I don't think there's an appetite for a national platform here," Sen. Shelley Moore Capito (R–W.Va.) told Politico yesterday, when West Virginia legislators approved a bill that would ban nearly all abortions. "My state, today, is working on this. I'm not sure what [Graham is] thinking here. But I don't think there will be a rallying around that concept."
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R–Ky.) likewise said most of his Republican colleagues "prefer this be handled at the state level." Those Republicans seem to include Sen. John Cornyn (R–Texas), who said "there's obviously a split of opinion in terms of whether abortion law should be decided by the states." He added that "my preference would be for those decisions to be made on a state-by-state basis."
On the face of it, that "preference" is mandatory under the Constitution, which does not give Congress the authority to regulate abortion or any other medical practice. The states, by contrast, retain a broad "police power" that, in the absence of Roe, can be used to restrict or prohibit abortion.
Graham claims his bill is authorized by the 14th Amendment's guarantees of due process and equal protection. Those guarantees apply to "any person," which in Graham's view includes fetuses (or, as he prefers, "unborn children"). Although some abortion opponents have long favored that interpretation, the Supreme Court explicitly rejected it in Roe and has yet to revisit the issue.
In addition to the 14th Amendment, Graham cites the federal government's power to regulate interstate commerce, "as interpreted by the Supreme Court." Since the Court has stretched that power to accommodate nearly anything Congress wants to do, that argument looks more promising. But even the super-elastic Commerce Clause invented by the Court's precedents may not be malleable enough to cover a nationwide ban on abortion after 14 weeks of gestation.
The 2003 Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act—which, unlike Graham's bill, restricts methods rather than timing—notionally applies to abortions "in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce." As Independence Institute scholar David Kopel and University of Tennessee law professor Glenn Reynolds have noted, that language is baffling "to any person not familiar with the Commerce Clause sophistries of twentieth century jurisprudence," since "it is not really possible to perform an abortion 'in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce'" unless "a physician is operating a mobile abortion clinic on the Metroliner."
Those sophistries were epitomized by a 2005 decision in which the Supreme Court said the Commerce Clause was broad enough to encompass state-authorized medical marijuana that was never sold and never crossed state lines or even left the grower's property. "If Congress can regulate this under the Commerce Clause," Justice Clarence Thomas warned in his dissent, "then it can regulate virtually anything—and the Federal Government is no longer one of limited and enumerated powers."
When the Supreme Court upheld the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act as consistent with Roe in 2007, it did not address the law's Commerce Clause rationale. In his concurring opinion, Thomas noted that "whether the Act constitutes a permissible exercise of Congress' power under the Commerce Clause is not before the Court."
Unfortunately for them, Democrats are in no position to argue that abortion legislation exceeds the federal government's enumerated powers. They not only rely on an expansive understanding of the Commerce Clause to justify much of their agenda; they have explicitly cited the Commerce Clause as a license for Congress to override state decisions regarding abortion.
The Women's Health Protection Act of 2021, which the House passed along party lines last year, would have established "a statutory right" to "provide abortion services," prohibiting a wide range of state restrictions. By way of constitutional justification, it averred that "abortion restrictions substantially affect interstate commerce in numerous ways," citing, among other things, the interstate purchase of equipment and drugs used to terminate pregnancies. A similar bill that the Senate considered last May did not even bother to explain its constitutional basis.
Republican members of Congress typically claim to be more concerned about constitutional limits on their powers. But as the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act and Graham's bill show, they are often willing to sacrifice their avowed principles to advance the policies they favor.
This cavalier attitude is shortsighted as well as unprincipled. If Congress can force states to allow abortion, it can also prevent them from allowing it. Conversely, if Congress can restrict abortion under the Commerce Clause, it can also establish a statutory right that precludes state regulation. That position would make abortion policy throughout the country contingent on the vicissitudes of federal elections. Instead of a diversity of policies based on a diversity of opinions in a vast nation of 50 states and 332 million people, we would get just one, always subject to change depending on who happened to be in power.
The late Justice Antonin Scalia complained that Roe "destroyed the compromises of the past, rendered compromise impossible for the future, and required the entire issue to be resolved uniformly, at the national level." The compromise that Scalia envisioned—letting states go their own way on abortion—is today threatened by maximalists on both sides of the issue.
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This bill is definitely DOA. Not sure why Graham thought it was a good idea. It's almost like he's trying to torpedo the GOP's mid-term election prospects.
Proof that politicians are not the sharpest fools in the drawer.
The story after the SC decision was "Republicans are trying to ban abortion".
On one hand, they didn't actually do that and had the high ground of saying they didn't ban shit and the court just left it up to your state legislature. That's the route I would've preferred they stay on.
On the other hand, that level of nuance is lost on basically everyone so if you're going to get crucified for banning abortion regardless of what you do you may as well follow through and appease the portion of your base that wants an actual federal ban. That's the route a politician with no principles beyond "get reelected" would take, so it's no surprise that's where Lindsey Graham went.
Well, Republican *state legislatures* are trying to ban abortion. Even without Graham's bill the Dems could still pin that on CoProlngressional candidates, who after all wanted Roe overturned.
Republicans have *claimed* for years they wanted to ban abortion.
Prolifers would be the first to say that many of these Republicans are lying. Yet Republicans will be held to their previously-expressed positions, unless they choose now of all times to back away from their "principles" - and even then Democrats would still attack them.
The bill plays right into the GOP playbook, however. GOP still thinks their base consists entirely of single issue pro-lifers. And in some precincts it probably does. But nationally it does not.
well the Dem base exists almost entirely of single issue pro-abortioners so there's that.
Agreed. Ann Coulter, who is quite caustic in some of comments, rightly says that liberalism is a religion and abortion is its sacrament.
No, the GOP does not think that. Lindsey Graham isn’t the fucking GOP.
Of course not, Trump is the GOP. - Brandy
"This bill is definitely DOA. Not sure why Graham thought it was a good idea. It's almost like he's trying to torpedo the GOP's mid-term election prospects."
I agree 100%, as Graham's bill (and the fearmongering by pro choice Dems and left wing media propagandist it will generate before the November election by pro choice Dems) could keep the Democrats in control of the US Senate and a dozen or more US House Seats in swing Districts).
Here in PA, I can already envision Democrat Senate candidate John Fetterman touting Graham's bill in ads attacking Oz (despite Oz recently stating his opposition to any federal legislation that bans abortion, as he says its an issue for states to decide).
Virtually all GOP House candidates in swing suburban districts will also be attacked in Democrat ads in the next 55 days (urging voters to vote against them if they want to prevent Congress from banning abortion nationwide).
Seems like Lindsey Graham (and Marco Rubio, who just stated his support for Graham's bill today) don't want he GOP to take control of the US Senate (or the US House) in November.
Lindsey, like most other RINO’s, doesn’t give a shit about anything besides being the nominal controlled opposition to Democrats. If they have control of anything, people might actually expect them to do something.
" ... It's almost like he's trying to torpedo the GOP's mid-term election prospects. ... "
Almost? I believe that's exactly what he's doing! I'd be very surprised if Graham is NOT just another deep state puppet!
Once again you mouth the words without understanding what they mean, and why no compromise is possible.
My position is that (a) if I were a woman who found I was pregnant by accident, I do not know if I could go through with an abortion, and (b) laws against abortion are too practically unenforceable to be ethical. Abortion and miscarriage are so similar that if the government wants to persecute you, there's another handy law. Like throwing parents in jail for shaken baby or crib death, or pulling cars over for K-9 searches because they claimed your tires were on the line or a taillight was broken.
Abortion and miscarriage are so similar that if the government wants to persecute you, there's another handy law.
I agree, and this isn't just a hypothetical. There have been a lot of articles written over the last few months like this one. Women that wanted a baby have experienced pregnancy complications that will result in the loss of the fetus with near certainty. They have then been denied abortions to relieve their pain and risk to their lives because doctors fear prosecution under laws that leave terms like "medical emergency" undefined. An American woman on vacation, a "babymoon" to celebrate her pregnancy with her partner, had her water break at 16 weeks. Malta has a total ban on abortion, the only European country that does. Her condition made flying risky, where a complication during the flight would make medical intervention very difficult, so they were kind of trapped there, waiting for the heartbeat to stop. Their travel insurance was able to arrange a special medical flight to Spain, where she was able to have the pregnancy terminated, but Savita Halappanavar was not so lucky in Ireland in 2012. She suffered similar problems at 17 weeks, but Ireland had an abortion ban like Malta's at the time (deeply Catholic country). The hospital would not terminate the pregnancy while there was still a fetal heartbeat. The law in Ireland allowed for it when the woman's life was at risk, but that was an ill defined term and the hospital had to make a decision based on whether doctors would be prosecuted rather than the risk to Savita. Several days later, she died of cardiac arrest after developing sepsis. That case, once it was made public, greatly influenced public opinion in Ireland, and they overturned their constitutional abortion ban in 2018.
Will Republicans in the states implementing bans and Lindsey Graham wait until similar cases have occurred in the U.S. and women have died before changing their laws?
It is just the beginning. When the GOP takes Congress expect lots of legislation on abortion, gays kissing, tranny bullshit, forced prayer in schools, and other pet social issues but nothing on inflation.
So basically like the current administration, just with pet issues you don't like as much.
Actually Biden has been a failure on my pet issues (like drug legalization) and a failure on fiscal issues. I can't think of anything good to say for him other than he is no social conservative.
"forced prayer in schools"
Oh really? Where?
The teachers on tik tok and their chosen blm or trans religion?
He is pro pedophile though. So you two have that in common. As he rapes children too.
lol thank god we have such good things happening on inflation right now!
If they win, they might rediscover their fiscal sanity for a little bit. But I’m sure you’ll be here bitching about it just like you did when they were able to pass sequestration through under Obama.
I only hope one day we get to see the file and the pictures they must have on this man. Nothing else explains his conduct and doing everything to sabotage the Party of Lincoln.
Sullum better watch out or ENB will cut his break lines for stepping on her turf
Sullum is clutching his pearls over Graham's lack of federalism, yet will probably be on board when the left tries, again, to pass its federal law, making abortion legal, up to the moment of birth.
An own goal + Columbia (SC)... Lyndsey better watch out.
The Republican senator improbably claims his bill is authorized by the 14th Amendment and the Commerce Clause.
You know who else improbably claimed their abortion law was authorized by the 14th Amendment and the Commerce Clause?
Democrats pushing for federal late-term abortion legalization?
Trick question. The answer is always "everything."
Commerce clause is what ever federal overreach uses to justify absolutely anything.
If not selling a product is commerce under modern interpretations then so is stopping a lifetime of buying and selling...then there is just the service itself which definitely is commerce and I'm sure either the tools or customers crossed state lines. God I wish that was facetious.
Ron Jeremy?
Graham's bill seems to go against the Dobbs majority reasoning that substantive due process is a constitutionally flawed standard. Therefore it goes against the basis of why SCOTUS overturned Roe. This is a bad idea on principle and as practical politics.
No, Roe was in no way shape or form "a compromise". It was one of the most radically pro-abortion regimes in the world.
You are delusional.
Does nobody see that what we had with Roe *was* the compromise position ?
The anti-abortion position has somebody, not you, dictating what you can't do with your own body. The pro-abortion position says you can, if you choose, make your own choice about it. Why do these lunkheads keep trying to take agency away from people? How is that libertarian ?
The pro-abortion position (and thank you for the lack of euphemism) is that abortion should be legal, while the anti-abortion position is that abortion should be illegal. Roe was closer to the pro-abortion position. Even though it did not legalize *all* abortions, it sure legalized a whole lot.
Yes, I agree to an extent. But I would say that Roe was fairly balanced. 1st trimester was mostly unfettered which I agree is more pro-abortion. 2nd trimester was mixed with some options removed and bars to overcome. Late trimester abortions are forbidden excepting only extenuating circumstances , which is more anti-abortion. Yes, I see this as a mostly balanced compromise. It will never be completely even, because life isn't that tidy.
They simply legalized lots of abortions and proclaimed that they'd allow some exceptions *if* the states adopted them, which some have and some haven't.
A compromise would have banned those abortions which they didn't legalize.
Because if you believe that you're aborting a human being and not a clump of cells than you're advocating for legalized murder. At that point it's not just about agency of one's own body, it's also about violently taking the life of another human being that hasn't wronged you in any way. That would make you pro-life in almost all circumstances.
If you think it's just a clump of cells then you only have the agency angle to worry about, that makes you pro-choice in almost all circumstances.
There isn't really a libertarian stance on this as there's either an egregious NAP violation happening or just a personal medical decision; it's all about what you personally believe about the fetus.
It's actually if you're a person or not. In the law personhood is the standard. Roe said a fetus isn't a person therefore it has no rights. Even if a fetus has rights it would have no right to force another to support it's life.
Which is a stupid argument. Chemjeff thinking.
Pregnancy carries inherent risk. When a young, otherwise healthy woman learns that she is pregnant, she would still have a risk of death that is small, but significant. (The overall maternal mortality rate in the U.S. is about 1 woman dying for every 6000 live births.) But then, not all women are young and healthy when they learn that they are pregnant. It is also notable that maternal mortality statistics go up by more than double for Hispanic and Black women.
So, what risk of serious complications or death is enough for it to be the woman's decision? Under what circumstances are you legally required to take a 1 in 6000 or higher risk of dying in order to help someone else?
So if I want to have sex with you you have no say in what I choose to do with my body? Since you're ignoring the intersection of rights between mother and fetus why shouldn't I? At least you will survive the encounter so arguably legalizing rape using your logic is a lesser violation of rights than your proposal.
Apples and oranges. You as an third party external entity have no legitimate claim to my biological processes like a child/symbiote .
Since I am not a slave, you have no rights to my body nor does a fetus/embryo/child (whatever term we are using) except for those that I GRANT to you or the fetus/embryo/child in question. The child would at least have a claim if I were in a coma or somehow unable to grant rights; but you would have neither.
So you don't have agency when you choose to have sex with all the voluntarily chosen risks and consequences? Glad to know we can just disavow agency if we don't like the consequences.
Fact is you pick and choose what applies to you based off what you want, even if that want is murder. You choose to ignore your own logic when it gets in the way of your wants do there is nothing honest about the positions you choose to take.
Sir, pick a scenario. First you suggest a scenario where I can be raped because I disagree with *your* logic, not mine. Then you create a scenario where you strawman me in a position saying choice isn't agency (which I never said). Stop moving the goal posts to fit your paradigm. I don't even think you are arguing against what I actually said anymore, so much as you made up a random plot (that I never even brought up) that you could then howl at the moon about.
Unfettered legal abortion everywhere up to partial birth abortions is your idea of a compromise?
It is well established that is not was Roe was. Let's not strawman here.
There are currently four states that have legalized post birth murder of a healthy child. We are way past Roe. This is a product of the evil that controls the democrat party. And they are flat out evil.
???. Okay, name the four states and the relevant statutes. Don't need the whole thing, just the titles / headers will do.
Lest Team Red forget, this is the guy who is teamed up with Elizabeth "Karen" Warren to create a NEW regulatory agency.
Fuck Joe Biden.
Fuck Donald Trump.
Fuck Lindsey Graham.
I asked sarc earlier. Are you able to blame a Democrat in isolation or only in conjunction with the gop to keep up your belief youre a centrist?
All of his screeds are anti-Republican and constantly bitching about them, but will occasionally bitch about the left in the context of both-sidesism.
Copy and paste for Laursen, Jeff, and sarc
Tony and Buttplug at least admit to their TDS and partisanship, so that might be the only thing respectable about them
‘Boaf sidez’, right Brandy?
It's actually pretty simple to fully legalize medical abortion nationwide with a law that is clearly within the scope of the commerce clause:
"Any telehealth provider based in the US may provide reproductive health services across state lines so long as those services are legal in the jurisdiction from which services are provided, and is immune from prosecution in any other state for conduct which is legal in the state they are operating from."
Of course this is very different from prohibiting it, and shows there's an asymmetry in the commerce clause behind prohibiting and authorizing services.
How, exactly, do you propose doing telehealth abortions? That vacuum tube us going to have to be pretty damned long.
How, exactly, do you propose doing telehealth abortions?
I assume he's referring to medicinal rather than surgical abortions and, like every abortion-dedicated writer here at Reason, retardedly ignorant that the FDA-prescribed cutoff for medicinal abortions is 10 weeks *from the last menses*.
Education. Which is being blocked by the Marxist media. Like many problems, this will go away once they’re gone.
Killing the product of reproduction is the opposite of "reproductive health".
Your use of that euphemism shows your ghoulish intent.
I can't read Graham's mind, but it's statistically unlikely that he wold be wrong all the time. Maybe he has bad motives, and maybe the timing is politically wrong, but in principle this bill makes some sense.
It's like the old anti-lynching bills. Filibustered because they invaded the sacred federalist right of the state to allow lynchings of certain people to occur without punishment. Now we're again invoking federalism for the sacred right of the state to allow abortion.
Graham's bill, which has provoked more dismay than enthusiasm among his Republican colleagues
But remember, all Republicans are liars for thinking this should be left up to the states because Graham proposed this bill. At least according to ENB. And Graham was apparently the only person who put his name on it so it's not like there's others who wanted this.
I've been trying to watch my language more recently, but I'm thinking a lot of bad words about ENB for that take yesterday.
I was thinking much the same thing. This article goes through a list of all the Republican officials saying no way to this bill. But, somehow, we're supposed to think that, even though they're saying no to it, they still intend to do it.
And I'm cynical enough to know that some of them might change their mind if they had control of the Senate, but I don't think it's all Republicans. For ENB to just make a blanket statement that the "leave it to the states" position was always a lie because the one Senator who has previous pushed for a federal abortion regulation tried to do it again...that's just so ridiculously disingenuous.
It means whenever she's talking about the increasing polarization in the country, she IS the problem because she has to assume Republicans are all liars. That's just the default position she goes to.
“ridiculously disingenuous” describes all of the left-libertarians the post AND write columns here.
It is the logical, mathematical extension from 50(D) + 1(R) = bipartisan support.
Nah, fuck that. I, more aggressive than ever. Progressives should live in fear. Not the other way around.
I get that our system doesn’t care about individual freedom, so obvious problems aside: in what country is the government not allowed to regulate a medical procedure?
I know it’s not the USA.
Uh, the same ones that aren't allowed to regulate any procedure that ends a human life?
"Eugenic sterilization" was a medical procedure. Authorized by courts, carried out by doctors.
dude's a (D) plant.
What's the Vegas odds that this appears in ENB's rundown tomorrow?
100%
LOL.
Odds you need to come over to play cards more often: 100%.
Graham has taken over the title of "Most sanctimonious prick" in the Senate that used to belong to Orrin Hatch.
And let's face it, it's not as if he's ever going to ask a mistress to get an abortion.
"The Republican senator improbably claims his bill is authorized by the 14th Amendment and the Commerce Clause."
Improbably? He's clearly correct under current "law" i.e. SCOTUS precedent.
Original meaning is something else.
Seems like Lindsey Graham (and Marco Rubio, who just stated his support for Graham's bill today) don't want he GOP to take control of the US Senate (or the US House) in November.
See my more detailed comment posted above.
As a pro choice Republican in PA (who could live with a 20 week ban that also allowed abortions in cases of woman's health, rape and incest), I may vote for left wing Democrat Josh Shapiro for Governor because he'll veto abortion bans enacted by the GOP controlled House and Senate, while Doug Mastriano has stated that he'd sign any abortion bans that are enacted (by the GOP controlled Legislature).
And now, thanks to the five conservative Catholic theocrats on the SCOTUS, GOP control of the PA House and Senate are now also threatened (as Democrats in swing districts are/will be running ads until November saying that their GOP rivals will vote to ban abortion if elected in November).
Again, whether from sincerity or political strategy, Republicans have *claimed* to be against abortion itself, not simply against Roe. The media and/or Democrats have been hammering at this "extremism" for decades.
If they get cold feet now it won't matter because there's their previous statements for the "pro-choice" side to use against them.
Backing away from their previous principles will just raise the issue of how many more "principles" they are willing to abandon in case of expediency. I tried to a list of those principles on my hard drive but it crashed.
I have a list of principles they're not willing to abandon in the name of expediency, it takes up no space at all on my hard drive. Here it is in its entirety:
/end of list
"allowed abortions in cases of woman's health, rape and incest" Serious question. What if 2 adult first cousins or even brother and let's say half sister, consensually hook up and she gets knocked up does she get a free pass to demand a late term abortion? The phrase is always "rape and incest" but they are not the same thing. I guess the reasoning has always been that the state has an interest in prohibiting inbreeding and the subsequent degradation of the species. Alright. But does that interest extend to aborting otherwise healthy babies? I haven't actually read any of the legislation and maybe they've got this covered but I'd like to know where and how they draw the lines.
single-issue abortion voters are the dumbest voters.
Nothing stinks of B.S. like Republicans desire to dictate other people's personal lifes.
Nothing stinks of B.S. like Republicans desire to dictate other people's personal lifes.
LOL!
No, Marxist democrats are a million times worse.
Very True.
Was ENB's retarded take on this yesterday not enough for this topic? Is Graham even up for re-election?
No, not until 2026.
The bill is stupid (for multiple reasons), but so is this headline. ALL federal laws "override" state (or local) law with which they are in conflict...you know, that whole supremacy clause thing...making that part of the headline as dumb as saying "Today's rain, which was wet..."
If abortion for rape isn't murder it's never murder.
My life has been lived in the shadow of RvW, I’m about to turn 49. All of my life I’ve watched people jump up and down about “the babies” while they inject children with vaccine garbage, allow schools to become overrun with mediocrity and indoctrination, ignore kids in poverty (yes, especially white kids), denigrate single mothers and fly various war flags (killing other peoples’ babies is fine).
I was a 16 year old mother. I didn’t abort my child. I love my now adult son.
But I don’t give a damn about yours, your babies or your beliefs. You didn’t raise my child, I DID. I was told I was a worthless POS back in the day. I was denigrated, beat down. My son and I were poor. I worked what I could, got two college degrees and he because a GC (started as an electrician by 16 himself).
I’m now a nurse. It’s my second career. I see real lives, real people and real situations. You all talk of abortion in the abstract.
None of you know a damn thing. You wouldn’t know if someone had an abortion, you wouldn’t know if they didn’t. You don’t care- you want to control the “other.” F you- I know who every one of you are. YOU are the POSs.
Your comment combines an inspiring personal story with random insults.
"allow schools to become overrun with mediocrity and indoctrination"
I suspect that the supporters of academic standards, supporters of school choice and opponents of CRT are more likely to be prolife than prochoice. The people who are the most fervent for sending kids to low-quality govt indoctrination factories are generally prochoicers.
"ignore kids in poverty (yes, especially white kids)"
See school choice, above.
"denigrate single mothers"
We know there are prolifers who want to support single mothers, because Sen. Warren wants to close them down.
"and fly various war flags (killing other peoples’ babies is fine)."
We've seen in the last few years that the hard-core prowar politicians were either prochoice from the beginning or else willing to drop their prolife "principles" at the drop of a hat when it conflicted with their globalist agenda.
If a nationwide abortion ban shows contempt for federalism, so does a nationwide assault weapons ban.
sigh...More govt regulation solves nothing. So many of these so-called Republicans nowadays are big government as well. Nowhere near as big govt as the Democrats (I'll grant you that), but the lesser of two evils is still evil.
How about focus on what most Americans actually care about?
-Limited government (get government out of our way)
-Abolish our terrible tax code
-Get us back to sound money (stop printing and borrowing)
-----We have to strengthen the Dollar
-Focus on reducing deficit spending and reducing the debt
-Eliminating the senseless regulatory constraints on businesses (from the mom & pop all the way up to the major corps)
Any combination of these will begin to usher in greater prosperity for us. We'll see more competition in the markets and higher paying jobs based on market demand.
With respect to my last bullet point, I just started a small business and the amount of paperwork I had to deal with (not to mention what it cost me in legal fees) just to get things off the ground was staggering.
If you want to make all that happen, the democrat party can no longer exist. This should be obvious after the last six years.
Both parties have been complicit in the flawed economic policies that we have had for decades.
Lindsey Graham's Abortion Ban, Which Would Override State Laws,Nearly every federal law on the books Shows Contempt for FederalismThere. fixed it
Lindsey Grahamnesty is desperate to make sure actual conservative Republicans never actually win control of Congress, so any cycle where it looks like there might be more of them than Quisling RINOs in office he does something to sabotage Republican chances and ensure Democrats keep control of Congress.
Isn't there more of a chance that "Republicans never actually win control of Congress" if the left's claim, that Republicans want a complete ban on abortion, has no way to be countered?
The proposed bill comes up very short on there being a total prohibition of abortion, at all stages of a pregnancy, with no exceptions allowed, while the left is campaigning on that being what Republicans want.
And then, those leftists, clutching their pearls about this lack of federalism, will turn around, if given the chance, and pass the bill they already tried to, making abortion legal throughout a pregnancy.
In 2016 the Republican Party won the Presidency and control of both Houses of Congress. The party started out to fulfill their promise to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act (ACA) and promptly failed. In 2022 the US Supreme Court overturned Roe giving Republican their chance to regulate abortion. Republican are looking to fail at that also. Making campaign promise is easy and it is usually better for the party when the promises are out of reach and so cannot be tested.
This is peak Lindsey.
Deep down he knows it is going nowhere, legally running smack up against the latest SCOTUS holding on abortion law.
But he's hoping it will fool the rubes in the GOP while also riling up the opposition and possibly hindering the election of actual conservatives.
While a ban on abortions at 15-20 weeks is not unreasonable, this decision should be made at the local level and not a one size fits all law at the federal level.
Does anyone else find it odd that reason didn't do an article like this when Democrats tried to do the exact same type of bill --only pro-abortion-- earlier this year?
A different interpretation is that there already is a bill out there and this is an alternative. It has a 15 week limit so it is not a "ban" contrary to many comments here - unless you believe there should not be any restrictions. Neither is law and both may be found Unconstitutional. Theoretically he could pull it and leave it to the states so it is more of a stunt to show how reasonable the R side is and how unreasonable the D side is (the article notes it is more liberal than European laws). Seems like a bad move politically without explicitly mentioning a preference for state regulation and drawing the distinction between the already passed House bill.
"The Women's Health Protection Act of 2021, which the House passed along party lines last year, would have established "a statutory right" to "provide abortion services," prohibiting a wide range of state restrictions. By way of constitutional justification, it averred that "abortion restrictions substantially affect interstate commerce in numerous ways," citing, among other things, the interstate purchase of equipment and drugs used to terminate pregnancies. A similar bill that the Senate considered last May did not even bother to explain its constitutional basis."
Reason lies to you again for the Democrats. This is not about Federal power as everyone knows no bill a Republican introduce right now will ever make it to a vote. It is a brilliant political strategy. Most American voter believe there should be some limits on abortion and late term and partial birth abortions are an abomination. Most people say 12 weeks and Graham is proposing 15 weeks. The Democrats won't talk about that and stick to women rights, yet their views are far outside the views of most voters. This will force Democrats to talk about the fact they want zero restrictions on abortion which is outside of the majority view.
No Reason writer will ever be a political strategist. They will make good propagandist for the left though.
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THIS
1000 upvotes - if this retarded commenting system had an upvote button.
... and... this is what is wrong with the Republican party.
Graham is a clown, (intentionally or inadvertently) intent on ensuring Democrats maintain the two houses in November.
For us Libs, Congress being a separate party from the Presidency (now might be described as the Dictator Branch) is the key to nothing moving forward, which means no additional governmental controls (social or fiscal). That is almost as good as it gets for Libertarian-ism today.
"The late Justice Antonin Scalia complained that Roe "destroyed the compromises of the past, rendered compromise impossible for the future, and required the entire issue to be resolved uniformly, at the national level." The compromise that Scalia envisioned—letting states go their own way on abortion—is today threatened by maximalists on both sides of the issue."
As Jake well knows, if was Scalia who provided the deciding vote on the infamous commerce clause/marijuana case that provoked Justice Thomas' stern rebuke. As a staunch Catholic, Scalia certainly should have regarded all abortions as murder, even those to save the mother's life (becauses you are not allowed to kill someone to save your own life). If he was willing to "bend" the ommerce clause due to his hatred of pot, what would he do when it came to abortion? And what would Thomas do? Well, if you think Bush v. Gore was "good law", it really doesn't matter.
If nothing else misguided Lindsey has exposed his ignorance of the Constitution and states rights....More than ever States Rights need to be enforced and the Govs of al states should make that perfectly clear in the Senate and the SCOTUS...These infringements are a callous way to say to you the voters, take your representation and pound salt...you can observe with clarity just how well Fed overreach is working now and see the frigging stupidity that they bring to the table.....This government does not exist without the consensus of the governed and that was written in the blood of patriots......
Hey the RINOs got to do something to keep from winning the house and Senate.
Although this bill is more liberal than what we see in most European countries, that’s not the issue. The real issue is that Congress lacks constitutional power to regulate abortion because it doesn’t fall within any enumerated power.
Nobody is more anti-abortion than I am, but this bill is a wrong headed mistake.
That about covers it.
Nobody is more anti-abortion than I am
I'm dubious. How many "oops" kids do you have?
Regardless of one's opinions on abortion, this is "The Stupid Party" going to the mat to grasp defeat from the jaws of certain victory: this bill has zero chance of going anywhere, but it gives the left a powerful tool at a point when the issue is already going to have major effects on the midterms.
What an ignorant comment. Being careful with birth control isn't the same as approving of abortion. My wife and I have one "bonus" child. He's 34 and we can't imagine our lives without him.