Hiring Formerly Incarcerated People Is Good, Actually
Some conservative media outlets and politicians lambast the practice. But if you care about public safety, that opposition doesn't make sense.

"Americans from across the political spectrum can unite around prison reform legislation that will reduce crime while giving our fellow citizens a chance at redemption," former President Donald Trump said in November 2018. "So if something happens and they make a mistake, they get a second chance at life."
A month later, Trump signed the First Step Act—one of his signature pieces of legislation, which gave second chances to many people with criminal records. It was a good bill that every Republican in the House voted for, save two. However, now conservatives—including supporters of Trump's signature criminal justice reform bill—are claiming that it's wrong to hire former criminals.
"Democratic Rep. Sean Patrick Maloney has history of employing convicts," the New York Post wrote on September 3. In the story, we learn that Maloney has reportedly paid two people with criminal records: Theodore Bickley, who served six years after he was found with $900 in counterfeit cash, and Jonathan Alvarez, who served 12 years for manslaughter.
In an interview with the Post, First Step supporter Rep. Elise Stefanik (R–N.Y.) lambasted Maloney's "personnel choices of hard-core criminals." A few weeks prior, she tweeted that "New Yorkers want LAW & ORDER." Did she not read the bill she supported? Or does she simply not understand the concept of second chances?
Let's consider Alvarez's case. When he was a child, his father was deported to the Dominican Republic after he was caught drug trafficking. Alvarez started selling drugs himself at 13; at 17, he defended a friend in a street fight against a 22-year-old, who died from his injuries. Alvarez left prison at 30 and then worked for Maloney as a congressional fellow from January 2019 to July 2019. He made all of $12,750.
"[Alvarez] graduated from the Bard Prison Initiative, which helps violent cons reenter society," notes the Post. "Maloney has long been a champion of the program and spoke at their 2014 commencement ceremony." The reader is supposed to be scandalized by this.
Alvarez has turned his life around after a very rocky upbringing. What jobs do Stefanik and the Post believe he is worthy to hold?
Conservatives have taken the same approach in the Pennsylvania Senate race. "Pennsylvania Democratic Senate nominee John Fetterman hired two convicted murderers to work for his campaign," Fox News wrote earlier this month, "and his Republican opponent in the state's November election, Mehmet Oz, claims it shows he is soft on crime."
The piece goes on to detail the case of Dennis and Lee Horton, brothers who were convicted of second-degree murder and served 27 years in prison after police pulled them over one evening in 1993 and found a friend of theirs, Robert Leaf—who had just taken part in a deadly robbery—in their backseat with a rifle.
Buried in the piece is that both brothers were recommended unanimously for clemency by the Pennsylvania Board of Pardons after maintaining their innocence for the nearly three decades they spent behind bars. Though the brothers admit to giving Leaf a ride that night, they say they were unaware of and uninvolved with the crime. Before their trials, they were offered plea deals ranging from five to 10 years in prison; they declined, went to trial, and were sentenced to life in prison. Leaf was paroled in 2008.
It's a strange point for a publication or a politician to make. We should keep punishing two men, we're told, for crimes they potentially did not commit and for which they received clemency.
Do conservatives also feel that way about the men and women who received clemency from Trump?
The notion that people should be expelled from polite society after leaving prison might sound tempting to those who want revenge. But that pound of flesh was extracted by prison, and post-incarceration employment is one of our most effective ways to discourage recidivism. Fox lamented that "the two brothers have raked in nearly $50K" since they were hired last December. That's not much between two grown men who earned it through legal employment. What exactly does the Fox writer want them to do instead?
Ninety-five percent of state prisoners will be set free at some point. The question we have as a society is what we let them do with that freedom when they get it. If you support law and order, you should want all of them to succeed for the sake of that principle, not despite it.
This recent coverage is not an anomaly. The Post, for its part, has been beating this drum for a while. One of its preferred subjects is Dyjuan Tatro, who served 12 years in prison, got two degrees behind bars, and went on to get a job with the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. "The House Democrats' campaign arm has hired an ex-gangster-turned-high-profile criminal justice advocate for a top leadership position," the Post wrote last year. Again, reader, you are supposed to be scandalized.
Tatro is, but for different reasons. "I have done everything they say that someone like me is supposed to do to redeem themselves," he told me in a phone interview, "but they're willing to undermine that, and to undermine public safety and individual accountability, in order to play partisan politics."
There's a difference between politics, which is performative, and policy, which is actionable. It's a distinction he very much understands as someone who has pushed to have Pell Grants—which subsidize education costs—restored for the incarcerated, so that more prisoners can access the same recidivism-reducing tools he did. "We could not have restored [education funding] to incarcerated people without Republican support," he says. "You have to remember that Donald Trump signed that bill. Donald Trump was the president who restored higher-education access to incarcerated people in this country."
That bill, not to be confused with the First Step Act, refers to the omnibus budget passed at the close of 2020, which reinstated those grants for the incarcerated after the notorious 1994 crime bill enshrined a ban that lasted 26 years. It was one of the last things Trump did in office. "They did that because it's good policy," says Tatro.
It is good policy. It's also mostly uncontroversial behind closed doors. But when the doors are open, some opt for politics, not policy. "You cannot say that we care about public safety, that we care about lowering recidivism, that we care about second chances or rehabilitation…and at the same time exclude formerly incarcerated people from gainful employment," says Tatro. "They're shooting themselves in the foot."
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Show us the way Reason. Hire some felons to write about drugs and incarceration.
Probably better than the shit y’all put out.
“It is said that no one truly knows a nation until one has been inside its jails. A nation should not be judged by how it treats its highest citizens, but its lowest ones.”
What does your and others' treatment of people who paid their debt to society say about America? I will let you ponder that
Actually, it was a pretty good retort. Sure, they will invite the odd prostitute to submit an article or two, but where are the convicted rapists in the halls of Reason?
They’re in its commentariat, trying to urge for minarchy.
What does it say about you that you think that prisons are about "paying a debt to society"? Oh, right: it says that you think like a socialist or fascist. The only people a criminal ever owes a debt to is the people they harmed through their crimes. As far as society is concerned, we lock people up in order to protect ourselves from criminals and to disincentivize criminal behavior.
The libertarian treatment of people who commit serious crimes is, of course, ostracism, exile, and/or outlaw status; traditional punishments based on freedom of association. It avoids all the unpleasantness and cost of prisons, though it probably ends up being worse for the convicts.
“It is said that no one truly knows a nation until one has been inside its jails. A nation should not be judged by how it treats its highest citizens, but its lowest ones.”
The citizens of a nation do not populate that nation's jails.
The people who have chosen to prey on a nation's citizens occupy the cells. They should be treated with no greater consideration than that which they extended to their victims.
You think it's bad for regular convicts, I hear it's a thousand-fold worse if the felon committed a sexual offense. All the evidence-based research proves that employment and stable housing along with access to a non-enabling support system of family and friends combine to considerably reduce the risk of recidivism, although those who have committed sexual offenses have the lowest recidivism rate of any other class of felons. 3-5% are the uniform findings.
Americans can't ponder. Pondering takes some kind fo mental capacity and as we all know, Americans are dumber than their own excrement.
What makes this “journalist” think conservatives don’t hire felons? Did he actually find some statistics, or is it just another thing he pulled out of his a…
Well, lets face it. At this point most Republicans are felons, and a good number of them are traitors to their own nation.
Shockingly, Reason is correct on this issue.
If you don't employ former criminals then they are forced to commit crimes in order to survive.
It makes perfect sense, which is why you don't understand it.
Blind spot 1: people who want laws passed and then recoil in horror when police actually arrest violators, sometimes killing them. If you're not willing to recognize that police enforcement always includes the possibility of death, don't make something illegal.
Blind spot 2: people who want to send criminals to jail for less than life but refuse to do anything which attempts to rehabilitate them. If you expect criminals to be released eventually, then it makes zero sense to not try and rehabilitate them, including making zero sense to put them in inhumane prisons which are more like graduate schools in how to commit crime.
Yeah, I don't like the idea of putting prisoners in, say, actual studio apartment-style living conditions, even if they are inside prisons with guards and cameras. But if they're going to be released, they need to learn how to behave decently and live decently. At the very least, isolate the worst animals, reserve apt-style lockup for the best behaving, and get rid of corrupt guards.
At this point there is no reason that prisons should not be mandated to have cameras recording every square inch of the property and monitored to catch any illicit behavior. Every hallway, every cell, every shower, every toilet, under every bed. No rapes, no assaults, no drugs, no stealing, no exceptions. Prisoners responsible to log the inventory in their quarters at the beginning and end of every day and accountable for any change in the inventory.
Follow the rules or suffer consequences. Infractions earn loss of privileges. Serious infractions earn solitary confinement. Repeated infractions lead to smaller cells.
People who can't go a few days without hurting others or stealing others property should be isolated. Let them go crazy locked in a coffin if they can't learn to keep their fucking hands to themselves. Cruel and unusual punishment is putting people who are genuinely remorseful or who have learned the lesson into the same population with the criminally stupid, mentally ill, and sociopaths because of the magnitude of their fuck up and not the cruelty of their intentions.
I'd be fine with that, but at some point before release, they have to practice living as if they were on their own. They need their own room, with their own thermostat and own kitchen, they need to make their own bed.
I'd be real fine with sentences beginning as heavily monitored versions of traditional prisons, two per grey bar hotel room, and after a year or two of good behavior, graduate to a little more personal responsibility, say their own gray bar hotel room, and so on. But it is idiotic to have no attempt at rehabilitation before release.
"At this point there is no reason that prisons should not be mandated to have cameras recording every square inch of the property and monitored to catch any illicit behavior."
Here's a reason: Doing that would catch more illicit behavior by the guards than by the prisoners.
What? I never said it would be a good reason. 🙂
You don't seem to understand that there are drugs in prisons because the guards permit it.
Those "inhumane prisons" are a small part of the US criminal justice system and are reserved for the most serious crimes and often repeat offenders. The US legal system goes out of its way to give people second chances.
For those serious and repeat offenders, the best way to achieve rehabilitation is to keep them locked up until they are in their 50's, at which point they are much less likely to commit crimes.
Of course, the US prison system should be improved as a matter of principle. But promising that such improvements will reduce recidivism is a false promise.
You would think so, wouldn't you. I know I did. My son is currently in jail. He is a first-time, nonviolent offender. He is a veteran whose offense was the direct result of a mental health breakdown. This was all clearly articulated by the prosecutor and the judge. His offense is a misdemeanor. He was given the maximum jail sentence allowed under the statutes and the maximum amount of probation time as well.
He is locked in his cell 22 hours per day. The jail permits no in person visits, so none of his family or friends will see him for the entirety of his sentence. His cell is too small to even do a pushup without having his face against the toilet/sink combo. He has not received the medication he receives for his bipolar and he can receive no mental health services of any kind while he is in there.
I'm certain that many of the perfect people on here will say that these conditions aren't nearly harsh enough. That the jails and prisons in this country are 'country clubs', and that my son should never be permitted back into society even once he completes his sentence and is released into the community. This whole experience has been an eye opener for me.
As a society I think we need to face the reality of our criminal justice system and ask ourselves if this is really who we want to be.
I’m not surprised that your son turned out to be a criminal, given your abuse of sentence structure.
As for the sentence he received and the conditions of his incarceration, it sounds unfair. Raise hell.
most should never be released
screw off.
The U.S. has over 2 million people in prison. Higher than any other state in the world.
What makes America such a violent, anti-social society that over 1 million Americans in your opinion must never be released into society?
Idiot, we have the third most numerous population in the world and the most freedom. That attracts a lot of criminals and criminal behavior.
Of course it is! 🙂
Koch / Reason libertarianism is primarily about making our billionaire benefactor Charles Koch even richer. Usually this means advocating unlimited, unrestricted immigration because Mr. Koch finds foreign-born labor (especially Mexicans) more cost-effective than US-born workers.
However, when he absolutely has to hire people born in this country, Mr. Koch has found those with criminal records are willing to work for lower wages and fewer bathroom breaks than squeaky-clean types who have never robbed a liquor store or tortured a dog or beaten their spouse.
#FreeTheCriminals
#CheapLaborAboveAll
Thought we were supposed to get rid of all those police jobs?
|Koch / Reason libertarianism is primarily about making our billionaire benefactor Charles Koch even richer. Usually this means advocating unlimited, unrestricted immigration because Mr. Koch finds foreign-born labor (especially Mexicans) more cost-effective than US-born workers."
Correct.
From the Libertarian Party Platform.. Immigration..
We hold that human rights should not be denied or abridged on the basis of nationality. We condemn massive roundups of Hispanic Americans and others by the federal government in its hunt for individuals not possessing required government documents. We strongly oppose all measures that punish employers who hire undocumented workers. Such measures repress free enterprise, harass workers, and systematically discourage employers from hiring Hispanics.
We welcome all refugees to our country and condemn the efforts of U.S. officials to create a new "Berlin Wall" which would keep them captive. We condemn the U.S. government's policy of barring those refugees from our country and preventing Americans from assisting their passage to help them escape tyranny or improve their economic prospects.
Undocumented non-citizens should not be denied the fundamental freedom to labor and to move about unmolested. Furthermore, immigration must not be restricted for reasons of race, religion, political creed, age, or sexual preference.
We therefore call for the elimination of all restrictions on immigration, the abolition of the Immigration and Naturalization Service and the Border Patrol, and a declaration of full amnesty for all people who have entered the country illegally.
What's the view on Jan 6 convicts?
You're saying they should ever be let out prison? Why do you hate America?
/sarc
Can you even rehabilitate an ultra maga insurrectionist?
Kiss off, jerk! Everybody with shred of honesty knows this was set up and enabled by Nancy Pelosi, the D.C. mayor with the help of their ANTIFA and BLM goons!!!
"Can you even rehabilitate an ultra maga insurrectionist?"
No. Death will be their only release from their life of confusion and self imposed ignorance.
"What's the view on Jan 6 convicts?"
Fine people. Very fine people. Patriots even with just a hint of mint.
Incidentally, this may be a first for Reason...trying to shame Republicans by invoking the good example of...Donald Trump. And no "to be sures" about how awful Trump is.
"Incidentally, this may be a first for Reason...trying to shame Republicans by invoking the good example of...Donald Trump. And no "to be sures" about how awful Trump is..."
And in the FIRST PARAGRAPH! Got knocked over by a slight breeze! And Sullum is on the fainting couch.
Sevo seems to be out of ammunition and functioning grey matter.
He has lots of white matter left.
It's a medical mystery.
Also, some real examples of Republican demagoguery, though fairness would require a both-sides counterexample of Democratic demagoguery.
By the way, I saw a documentary (favorable) about the Bard program, and I love the concept. It doesn't help, though, when one of the prisoners who's profiled gets his degree with a paper about how black people are oppressed by a racist society. And the guards seemed a bit resentful, though they weren't interviewed. Maybe something about prisoners getting free college and them not getting free college?
"...Maybe something about prisoners getting free college and them not getting free college?"
Tough one here.
Pretty sure the inmates are paid M/W or something close, and the chances of getting any sort of scholarship are slim indeed, while the guards have full employment opportunities and a chance at scholarships; thumb on the scales.
And then, we would prefer the inmates to get released with some chance of employment so they don't become a load on the 'justice system' (taxpayers) again.
Cost/benefit? Fund tertiary edu ONLY in fields offering real employment opportunities, not 'victim's studies'.
"Anti-immigrant party helps right defeat Sweden’s government" -WAPO headline
The Swedes have officially become Nazis and MAGAts. AOC will not want to be like them now.
From the Libertarian Party Platform - Immigration
We hold that human rights should not be denied or abridged on the basis of nationality. We condemn massive roundups of Hispanic Americans and others by the federal government in its hunt for individuals not possessing required government documents. We strongly oppose all measures that punish employers who hire undocumented workers. Such measures repress free enterprise, harass workers, and systematically discourage employers from hiring Hispanics.
We welcome all refugees to our country and condemn the efforts of U.S. officials to create a new "Berlin Wall" which would keep them captive. We condemn the U.S. government's policy of barring those refugees from our country and preventing Americans from assisting their passage to help them escape tyranny or improve their economic prospects.
Undocumented non-citizens should not be denied the fundamental freedom to labor and to move about unmolested. Furthermore, immigration must not be restricted for reasons of race, religion, political creed, age, or sexual preference.
We therefore call for the elimination of all restrictions on immigration, the abolition of the Immigration and Naturalization Service and the Border Patrol, and a declaration of full amnesty for all people who have entered the country illegally.
I have noticed the "soft on crime" popping up again on the political commercials. Also, the issue of no cash bail. So I am feeling deja vu all over again.
I am always amazed on how willy some people are to spend money on police, courts, jails and prison, but want to draw the lines on helping people stay out of the legal system in the first place.
What the line about a job being the best social welfare program, except when the person has been in prison.
Incoherent. Been drinking?
Soft on crime is political shorthand.
It is time tested.
You are seeing a comeback of this tactic because Democrats have been quite successful in their strategy of breaking down law and order in the cities.
Sure, folks here can wade through varying nuanced discussions about prosecutors and laws decriminalizing theft and reduced police presence... But the vast majority of voters need a bumper sticker. So... Soft on crime it is, even though it is hardly accurate.
"...But the vast majority of voters need a bumper sticker..."
The left's entire political program can be summed up by "Free XXXXXX"; fits on a bumper sticker
The rights entire political program can be summed up by .............. Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
Whhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa..
I'm a victim.
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...
Give me money....
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...
"Soft on crime is political shorthand."
It is a short and but it's more like shorthand for "be afraid". The fact is that most of the offices in play have little to do with crime in the cities. Most of the crime I read about in my daily paper has two causes drugs and mental health. Neither of these is helped by more police and more jails. Shorthand is for getting votes and not for addressing problems.
It’s always a good idea to hire an ex con to run your cash register.
Not really a problem if you have proper controls.
Depends on the business.
Barkeep is a famous one for pocketing some of the take.
Is "someone involved not being a known criminal" any element of your "proper controls" scheme?
If not then your proper controls are highly vulnerable.
Maybe but the world always needs duct hung. And scrapping sheetmetal isn't a big money maker.
Speaking of convicts, there is a frequent commenter here who would make a great babysitter. You should hire him to watch your kids Binion!
Damn right. But also tell that to the Ds in my state of MD, still have hurdles for convicts to get trade licenses, one of the best sectors for them to jump into imho.
Why do they need a trade when thanks to Dems they can vote?
Republicans hate it when American citizens can vote.
Weird that this is a hill reason is willing to die upon, championing the right and indeed the value of work for people who harmed others.... when their response to "cancellation" for saying things that people might disagree with is so tepid.
To be clear... hiring ex-cons is a good thing for society. But one wonders how good it is for the employer?
My ex father-in-law used his position as the manager of food services for a university to give black ex-cons a chance and a path back to society. It usually worked out, but they did cause him quite a few headaches as well.
Not to put too fine a point on it, but using Reason's search tools turns up a handful of articles that mention Gina Carano... only two of which were about her firing by Disney for saying that demonizing your fellow citizens ends badly... like it did in Germany in the 1930s.
Blackmailed from Hollywood for calling on people to be more civil in public debate. Seems like reason could come down really firmly on one side of that.
But no. Because they perceived her to be a Trump supporter, the staff of Reason could not bring themselves to condemn this sort of action.
But since the DNC put out a talking point for journalists to use to push back against a republican attack.... now we have column inches to devote to the ills of locking people out of employment.
Hey, Koch! Can you please find some ideological libertarians to staff your magazine? There is a real need for a voice of liberty at this moment!
Remember Google Memo guy?
Only a couple of reasons writers took a stab at that story. Two took the "you didn't understand what he wrote" tactic, but didn't really attack the underlying principle of removing dissenters from society.
Only Nick Gillespie took that tac.
https://reason.com/2017/08/10/the-google-memo-exposes-a-libertarian-bl/
Nick actually challenges libertarian orthodoxy to say that it is bad for society if companies go around firing people for having diverse ideas.
But most of reason has spent the years either denying that anything is happening or actually cheering when people like Alex Jones are attacked by a cabal of left wing international corporations in an attempt to silence him.
Remember the old ACLU tag line about fighting for speech rights?
Yeah... didn't think you would.
"...Remember the old ACLU tag line about fighting for speech rights?..."
VERY old. ACLU stopped getting money about the time SCICOP did and for the same reasons.
Also Reason:
Republicans demagoguing prison releases in an election is terrible!
Also, also Reason:
Democrats using the FBI and the CIA to frame political opponents for crimes isn't worth mentioning... Even when done in the heat of a political race. Actually, it probably is a good thing.
I'm all for hiring competant people who were falsely charged, convicted, and incarcerated, as well as competent people charged, convicted, and incarcerated for "victimless crimes," and all of these records should be expunged and destroyed anyway.
However, hiring people justly convicted of violating Life, Liberty, and Property is another thing entirely.
When positions are scarce, isn't this an injustice to competent prospective employees who do not need a "second chance"?
And isn't making anything but merit and ability a standard for hiring or contracting a long-term drag on business productivity? Isn't this just Affirmative Action and Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DIE) for the benefit of thuggery?
And isn't laws like the proposed (passed?) California "Ban-The-Box" Law a violation of the right of employers to make even rational decisions to choose their own associates?
Reason needs to stick with fighting against Government barriers to employment for the peaceful and honest.
"...However, hiring people justly convicted of violating Life, Liberty, and Property is another thing entirely..."
Even those people have, according to the laws, spent time incarcerated to 'repent their sins' and perhaps be rehabilitated. Perhaps not, but that would suggest the laws need to be 'rehabilitated'.
"...When positions are scarce, isn't this an injustice to competent prospective employees who do not need a "second chance"?..."
Pretty sure the majority of the ex-cons are not competing for "positions", more like "a job". According to the LEOs of my acquaintance (these are not beat cops), on release, they are typically directed to roofing contractors, scaffold outfits, plumbing contractors for ditch-digging.
What they need to learn is what you, me and most of us learned on our first job: Show up in a presentable condition, work the entire day, and if you want to succeed, show some initiative.
Without detail sufficient to identify me or them, nor to convince those who disagree:
Many years ago, as a contractor, I managed the installation of a 'visitor's center' in a national park; the folks doing the work were 'trustees' from federal prisons.
Here is the difference between me and them:
Somebody snitched on them selling dope.
I bought it from someone else who was in the slammer for the same reason.
And the tension in the "hire ex-cons" debate is between "good for society" and "good for the employer."
Making criminals permanently unemployable makes them into permanent criminals. Obviously we want them to have jobs. Good jobs that encourage responsible citizenship.
But as an employer... who really prefers a burglar over a not-burglar?
I am not sure how you bridge that divide. Time was, you left town and went to work in the big city where you could be anonymous and your record from another state wouldn't find you. Now we live in a world where even an accusation can follow you forever.
Again, people whose only offense was drugs should not and would not even have a record in a free society. Those people I have no beef against if they earn their position by merit or ability.
Real crimes with real victims is something else entirely.
To give an idea on how far down we've gone as a society on this front, I know a case of a man who has a rap sheet as long as an arm of offenses against person's and property who not only is a plumber, but has his own business, and has a contract with a small City running their water treatment plant, as well as contracts for several local corporations!
Somebody prove there is a just God.
Clearly in this case, there is some shit going down and/or people in high places who are incredibly corrupt and/or stupid!
"Perhaps not, but that would suggest the laws need to be 'rehabilitated'."= Sevo
No it doesn't. Ther is no logical connection between the two concepts. They are disjoint.
"Here is the difference between me and them:
Somebody snitched on them selling dope." - Sevo
So how long have you been a drug dealer Sevo?
there are no victimless crimes.
That's why I added the air quotes. Perhaps "Victimless acts" would be a better choice.
A Libertarian once told me that he wasn't a rapist because the little girl he raped wanted it.
His was a victemless crime according to him, and the evil state was violating his rights as a soverign citizen to live free.
No, they are not. They are merely claiming that it is wrong for some people to hire some criminals.
And they are right: convicted murderers have no place on the campaign staff of a US Senator, in particular if that Senator's commitment to the rule of law is already questionable.
Saying that doesn't mean that those ex-felons shouldn't be able to work at all; there are plenty of other jobs they can take.
Binion, whatever you consider "polite society", whatever circles you socialize in, whatever professional circles you exist in, I don't want to be part of. Please consider me "expelled".
In reality, people associate and interact as individuals, based on a wide variety of individual preferences and interests.
Reminder that Binion has expressed exactly zero concern for people being held in solitary for a year only to be charged with misdemeanor "parading."
IOW: Billy boy fuck off and die you dishonest little fuck.
Should be up to the employer. As in employers should be able to hire who they want. If they don't want to hire ex-convicts, that's up to them.
However, I would encourage them to. Don't put artificial barriers in the way of your business. Someone trying to prove that they aren't the teenage fuckup they were twenty years ago can actually be a good deal.
We don't need government programs for that, just get government out of the way. And stop locking people up for non-violent crimes.
in today's justice system only the worst of the worst are sent to prison. most criminals are not convicted but simply set free. so those felons that served time are very risky in terms of trust in employment. also recidivism is very high. i would not hire a convicted felon.
I found Reason through the now retired Overlawyered.com site. One of the articles on Overlawyered was about a hotel maintaince man. A woman and her two daughters were raped and murdered by the maintaince man. The owner of the hotel didn't perform a background check before hiring the maintaince man. He was sued by the family of the victims.
I have no problem with "second chances", but, these days when you are not allowed to perform a background check before hiring someone there should be some protection for the person or company doing the hiring.
Funny how they want to do away with criminal background checks for jobs when I have to shell out $80 per year for a background check to volunteer to help my Niece's Science Club.
Under Democrats, the purpose of the background check is changing from "protect the general public and customers" to "ensure that you don't discriminate against ex-felons", followed by "you must hire all ex-felons that apply".
You can blame the spate of sexual assaults by volunteers for the Boy Scouts for those background checks.
By the way, NAMBLA the North American Man Boy Love Association is a Libertarian group.
LOL.
Precisely how many formerly incarcerated persons work for Reason Magazine?
Given the poor quality of the writing, you might think a significant percentage of its staff got their HSE diplomas in prison.
MAD calls its staff "the usual gang of idiots."
How many who work for Reason should be incarcerated for generating dishonest corporate propaganda?
All of them probably.
My wife has major struggles hiring kitchen staff at her assisted living facility.
Because they have a corporate policy that requires background checks. Not that you have to be perfectly clean, but any sort of property or violent offenses are almost certainly disqualifying.
Which makes darn reasonable sense when you consider the vulnerability of the clientele.
I remember entering the labor market at 17. It wasn't easy to find a job. The high-paying union jobs working for utilities with government-protected monopolies, and government agencies like USPS and the public transit, were reserved for guys who served their politicians by dropping napalm on children in Viet Nam. There were jobs programs such as CETA but they were for certain pigeon-hole categories of humans such as minorities, women and ex-cons. Instead of me having a job, a convicted criminal gets one. That pissed me off. At the time, I hadn't met the libertarians and I thought the solution would be for the socialist revolution to force the government to issues writs of employment to every unemployed person, who could then present the writ to an employer to get a job whether or not there were openings. Now I know that the solution is to eliminate crap such as zoning restrictions, to unleash plenty of construction jobs and to push down rents.
What's wrong with dropping Napalm on children in VIetnam?
It was a patriotic act of love and defense of one's homeland.
Or so Republicans have told me.