Artificial Intelligence Helps French Tax Authorities Find Thousands of Untaxed Swimming Pools
When taxing authorities get more resources and power, they will find ways to make everyone pay more.

Using aerial photos and artificial intelligence, French tax officials have reportedly identified more than 20,000 previously untaxed residential swimming pools—potentially netting the French government a windfall of more than 10 million euros ($10 million).
And that total likely represents only a fraction of the cheese-eating tax cheats out there. According to The New York Times, the photo-scanning A.I. tool developed in tandem by a French IT firm and Google has been deployed so far in just nine of the county's 96 administrative districts. But it has been so successful that French officials are planning a national effort in the coming months.
Swimming pools matter because the French property tax system is based on the theoretical rental value of a home and its surrounding lands. That means building additions to your house or improving the grounds—for example by adding a pool—can come with a costly tax bill. According to Ars Technica, a new pool adds about 200 euros to the average French property tax coffers. The General Directorate of Public Finance—their IRS equivalent—believes it could collect as much as 40 million euros in additional taxes when the A.I. tool is deployed across the rest of the country, per The Verge.
Because this is France, a lot of the political controversy stirred up by the use of aerial photos and A.I. to detect untaxed pools is not for the reasons you might expect—or perhaps exactly for the reasons you'd expect: The Times reports that the unions representing French tax collectors are opposed to the effort, fearing that it will "replace field work by tax collectors and surveyors" with algorithms.
Ars Technica notes that the French firm that developed the software is facing criticism for contracting with Google.
A more efficient tax collection service that requires fewer bureaucrats isn't necessarily bad. And Americans don't have to worry about getting a bigger federal tax bill if they improve the value of their property (though property taxes do fund other levels of government). But even if the IRS won't be spying on our backyards in the hopes of charging us extra next year, there's a warning here about what happens when you give tax cops more resources and more power: Lots of people end up having to pay more in taxes.
The expected 87,000 new agents that the IRS will hire thanks to the recently passed Inflation Reduction Act won't be literally sorting through photos of Americans' backyards, but they will be sorting through Americans' financial backyards. Despite what Democrats (and compliant media "fact checkers") claimed in the run-up to the bill's passage, there is little reason to believe the enhanced tax scrutiny will be focused exclusively on Americans earning more than $400,000. In fact, about half of the so-called "tax gap" that the bill envisions closing would have to come from Americans earning less than $200,000 annually, according to a Joint Committee on Taxation analysis.
Bigger tax authorities operating with more powerful technology will translate into higher tax bills for the poor suckers unlucky enough to live under those regimes. That's true whether your "tax crime" is having an unreported swimming pool or filling out the wrong form at your bank.
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Ars Technica notes that the French firm that developed the software is facing criticism for contracting with Google.
Wait, the French firm is facing the criticism here?
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To have the motto "Don't Be Evil?," they sure do a fuck-ton of it!
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Ars Technica is the kind of Technica that looks up your are, like this shit from Google!
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Artificial Intelligence Helps French Tax Authorities Find Thousands of Untaxed Swimming Pools
When taxing authorities get more resources and power, they will find ways to make everyone pay more.
Alternate headline:
When government officials get access to the liberating technology of the internet...
In much of the USA when you get a building permit the local taxing authorities are notified.
I looked up assessor's cards for two houses with pools in my area. A lap pool is worth around $5,000 less depreciation and a regular pool is worth $10,000. (Less than construction cost. Don't build a pool you won't enjoy.) If the tax rate is 2% the tax bill comes out close to the 200 euros in the article. Less than the cost to fill a pool.
And then, the taxing is all local for property tax. The IRS doesn't really care one way or the other about the Village of Bumfuck, Illinois, collecting property tax on a swimming pool. Now, the other local taxing bodies that rely on property tax might (county, school district(s), sewerage district, water district, mosquito abatement district, library district, etc.) be interested as well.
(county, school district(s), sewerage district, water district, mosquito abatement district, library district, etc.)
Wow, individual mosquito abatement and library districts rather than it all getting rolled up into a county or city and itemized? You really did your homework on Bumfuck, IL.
the Village of Bumfuck, Illinois
Ooooh! Gettin' all Rev. Argue on us! 😉
Rev. Artie, that is! And don't forget to flourish your cape! 🙂
Fuck you, we don't swim in that. That's a pond.
The Ceement pond. - Jethro Beaudine
Get a few duck decoys.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3c9upXVQ0M
"A pool and a pond. A pond is good for you."--Dr. Leo Marvin, What About Bob?
Well, Google is a private company, so - - - - - - - - -
You know what other country penalizes people for improving themselves and their property?
Every other one, topped by Kampuchea under the Khmer Rouge?
there's a warning here about what happens when you give tax cops more resources and more power: Lots of people end up having to pay more in taxes.
perhaps that will help them identify the source of their pain next time they vote.
I may expose myself as a terrible non-libertarian... but isn't this... ok?
I mean, these people built swimming pools and they aren't paying their taxes. Even under US law, this wouldn't qualify as an impermissible search under the 4th Amendment. So long as there's a reasonable mechanism to appeal (e.g., if the AI gets your address wrong or if the image is out of date), it seems reasonable.
Now, of course, you could say the tax on pools isn't fair, but that's a completely distinct question from whether people should be permitted to avoid paying that tax.
And it seems to me of all the intrusions on privacy of the surveillance state, this is perhaps not the one to die on a hill (or drown in a pool) over...
Unless the drone or building inspector sees the pool under construction, I disagree. Can't count the number of houses I've seen and been involved in with obvious evidence of decades old-renovation that repeatedly had assessors walk through and say it meets with municipal records despite municipal records saying a two-story unit is "actually" a one-story unit or a full, finished basement is "actually" a partial, unfinished basement or a three-bedroom, two-bath house is "actually" a two-bedroom, one-bath house. If the seller says what it is, shows me what it is, and asks a price, the assessor agrees that what he's advertising is reality, even if it's not and I buy at that price, who committed the fraud?
The other side being, if code says pools must have fences, someone drowns in a pool without a fence, and in the process of the investigation, it's discovered I built the pool without a permit, I *may* be liable for the tax evasion. But building codes aren't criminal law and the presence if a pool is not itself evidence of a crime.
At least in the US, a case could be made that taxation-by-AI is based on non- current data. Someone still needs to visit the property or the assessment may not survive a challenge.
Depending on the AI, non-existent data.
Paint a pool on your lawn and sue the shit out of the city for assessing taxes on your pool painting.
There is a process to challenge tax assessment. It does not start or end with suing the shit out of people. If you win you get your tax overpayment refunded.
Locally we have a Lawyer who's business is disputing property tax assessments. He's pretty successful at it. For years there's been a couple of other Lawyers who have been trying to put him out of business. Both of those Lawyers are retained by the Teachers Union's.
Fraud doesn't come into play. Your property is supposed to be taxed based on its value. Mistakes can be corrected. You don't have a vested right in an incorrect valuation.
So, as long as an immoral government follows proper procedures, then okey-dokey?
I don't think that there is anything immoral here. The citizen contracted with a government for services in return for taxes. The citizen is the immoral one for welching on his Social Contract.
He should be more careful about bargaining with the devil while voting.
The citizen contracted with a government for services in return for taxes. The citizen is the immoral one for welching on his Social Contract.
He should be more careful about bargaining with the devil while voting.
Social contract with a government of, for, and by the people? More careful bargaining? Fair enough. Get the fuck out of my pool before I drown you in it.
A tax on private property here, a surveillance of private property there and pretty soon you're talking about a real police state!
Nope You have to prove such things are being done without the consent of the governed. No such evidence is given in this ridiculous article. Just the opposite. Taxpayers should be happy the government is using technology that saves millions, to enforce laws their representatives passed into law.
Government should not be so damn powerful that it requires taxes on swimming pools and drones and AI to surveil citizens for these things.
Now, since this is your first offense against Libertarianism within my peripheral vision, I will spare you my specialized version of "Fuck Off, Slaver!"
Just know where your posting. 🙂
That's "you're.". See? This why AI can't be trusted!
Relatedly, People protest as some Starbucks outlets to go cashless
I'm sure BTC will save us from the surveillance state! /sarc
Whatever happened to -
"this note is legal tender for all debts, public and private"?
Is Starbucks just becoming the first to say the US currency no longer is worthy of full faith and credit? When your money is no good, then what?
I will gladly give you a basket of wheat Tuesday for a hamburger today?
Probably a high theft area. They don’t trust their employees or the neighborhood criminals.
It's the UK. My bet is that, coincidentally, these are also the Starbucks that generally allow the homeless and borderline psychotic to occupy, but not patronize, their stores.
Either way, Starbucks notably had to close a number of profitable stores across this country for various reasons. Seems very distinctly 'Go woke, go broke' that these stores survived.
And the point of the article is what? Government should hire 87,000 'IRS' agents to hang out in bars looking for snitches trying to find the pools instead of using 'free' or cheaper technology? The tax is for the voters to decide. If they voted for it why should they be upset if the Government saved millions of dollars trying to enforce it?