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Taxes

Louisiana Sheriff Loses Tax Lawsuit Targeting Smith Angus Farm

Multiple state agencies told Sheriff Randy ‘Country’ Seal that he had no right to collect taxes from a rancher in his parish. He sued anyway.

Baylen Linnekin | 8.20.2022 7:40 AM

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Louisiana cattle rancher Jason Smith has won a case filed against him by a county sheriff who wrongly claimed a state law that exempts Louisiana farm products from sales taxes didn't apply to Smith's meat sales. 

A decorated Marine Corps veteran, Smith retired from the service several years ago to go work with his dad at Smith Angus Farm, a ranch that's been in the family for more than 100 years.

"The ranch has sold its beef directly to consumers since 2019, and it's a key part of the business," NOLA.com reported last week. "But selling meat has the Smith family farm at odds with Washington Parish Sheriff Randy 'Country' Seal, who has sued in state court, alleging that Smith's sales aren't covered under a state law that allows Louisiana farmers to sell many products tax-free."

The sheriff's interpretation of the law was news to Smith. "I was like 'you gotta be kidding me,'" Smith said. But Sheriff Seal, who Smith pointedly notes "is also the tax collection authority here," was not kidding.

Before Seal decided to target him, Smith had no reason to think the tax-exempt farm products he sells directly to consumers were taxable. The trouble for Smith, whose ranch occupies 240 hilly and bucolic acres, began last fall when Seal, an elected Republican sheriff allegedly acting on the advice of counsel, determined such foods as steaks and ground beef are not tax-exempt farm products.

"The tax collector maintains that the term 'livestock' is not the equivalent of ground meat or other processed meat items sold direct from a farm," Seal told the court.

Farm products sold by a producer directly to consumers are explicitly exempt from sales and use taxes under Louisiana's revised statutes ("The gross proceeds derived from the sale in this state of livestock, poultry, and other farm products direct from the farm are exempted from the tax levied by taxing authorities, provided that such sales are made directly by the producers.") and tax code ("Any sale of livestock, poultry, or other farm products made directly from the farm and directly by the producer regardless of the purpose to which it will be put when sold is exempt from these taxes."). 

If that wasn't clear to Seal, then an October ruling by the state's department of revenue titled Sales Tax Exemption Applies to Sales of Farm Products 'Direct from the Farm' by the Producers, issued the same month Seal filed suit against Smith, should've made it so. 

If that still didn't clear things up for Seal, the letter Louisiana Agriculture Commissioner Mike Strain sent to the sheriff probably should've driven the point home. "Based on these statutes, farm products raised on the farm and sold directly to consumers by the farmer are tax exempt," wrote Strain, who also noted the law "can't be any clearer."

But "can't be any clearer" still wasn't clear enough for Seal. Smith says he "reached out to the sheriff, but was told they 'were dead set on taking it to trial.'"

Seal was dead set on wasting taxpayers' money, wasting Smith's time and money, and losing in court. Last week, District Judge Alan Zaunbrecher sided with Smith.

"The court finds that the broad terms 'farm products' would include 'livestock' and 'livestock products," Judge Zaunbrecher ruled, NOLA.com reports, noting Smith's ranch "is clearly the producer of the farm product."

Smith, victorious, has dared "Country" Seal to appeal. "If he really believes in his case, and needs clarification on the English language, then he should appeal," Smith told Progressive Farmer in the wake of the ruling. "Otherwise, he should admit that he cynically brought this case forward in a shameless attempt to generate revenue by publicly apologizing and offering to pay my legal expenses."

In an obnoxious Facebook post over the weekend, the Washington Parish Sheriff's Office said it would not appeal the ruling and attempted to explain why its office had gone after a local farmer.

"Sheriff Seal filed the lawsuit on behalf of the citizens of Washington Parish, all of whom benefit from the collection of sales tax which is distributed to various recipients, including school systems, parish and municipal governments, law enforcement agencies and other entities as specified by law," the post declares. "The litigation was filed on the advice of counsel and with no animus against any parish business."

Balderdash. I think Smith got it exactly right: "Country" Seal's actions were nothing more than a cynical and shameless attempt to generate revenue by ignoring the letter of the law.

Smith says the idiotic lawsuit against him has had a silver lining. "Randy Seal has drummed up a lot of business for me," Smith told NOLA.com. "I have people for bulk orders, lots of people just wanna buy a couple packages of steaks."

While the judge's ruling this month only applies to Smith, it should also protect at least 100 other Louisiana farmers and ranchers who sell products from their farms directly to consumers in the state. Indeed, if the judge had ruled otherwise, "it could mean that dozens of other farms around the state that sell their goods could be forced to pay sales taxes, which would mean higher prices for customers that might drive down demand for their locally produced products"—causing "huge losses" for Louisiana's small ranchers.

"[T]he producer here was selling meat from animals grown on its land and was therefore exempt from the tax requirements the agency attempted to impose," says Alexia Kulwiec, executive director of the nonprofit Farm-to-Consumer Legal Defense fund (where I serve on the board). "As consumers continue to demand locally produced foods, government agencies should be making it easier rather than more difficult for small producers to provide nutritious food in their communities."

I'm glad Washington Parish residents are supporting Smith. I hope those same residents vote to recall Seal. With animus.

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Reason Foundation Senior Fellow Baylen Linnekin is a food lawyer, scholar, and adjunct law professor, as well as the author of Biting the Hands That Feed Us: How Fewer, Smarter Laws Would Make Our Food System More Sustainable (Island Press 2016).

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  1. Mr. Bumble   3 years ago

    The love of money is the root of all evil and the power to tax only amplifies that love.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      Yeah, who needs any kind of material motivation? Think how much better humanity would be without all those evil people who sought fortune through exploration, invention, and commerce.

      1. Ali Akbar Alexander   3 years ago

        I don’t know… it used to be around here that a bunch of rich White guys would tell this Black (and gay) man how rich they were and how anyone receiving any sort of benefit from the government was a mooching leech. Now, libertarians tell this gay and Black man how they’re so poor and unskilled that they need protection from Mexican workers crossing the borders. It really depends on what wing of the libertarian big tent (currently at <1% of the popular vote) you want to be in: the rich asshole or pathetic sad sack faction. I’d suggest doing what I do… just agree with everything the GOP and Dear Leader says and call yourself libertarian because the GOP just cut taxes on gazillionaires by 2%. That’s total proof of how the GOP is perfectly aligned with libertarian thought.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

          Retard

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        2. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

          Take your racist astroturfing elsewhere, Shrike.

      2. Utkonos   3 years ago

        I’m Pol Pot and I endorse this message.

        1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

          Ah, but Pol Pot couldn't endorse anything involving the written word. He murdered anyone who was literate.

          1. Utkonos   3 years ago

            One of several Paris-educated intellectuals to impose that on their countrymen

    2. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

      exchangrNo, the love of money is the driving force behind production and exchange. The power to tax is the power to destroy that production and exchange. Taxation could not exist if production and exchange did not eist first.

      Just because you read it in an ancient, inaccurate, logically contradictory, barbaric book of Grim Fairy Tales does not make it so.

      1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   3 years ago

        Eh, it's a saying, an aphorism, something not meant to be taken literally.

        Think of it as the self-destructive focus on money for the sake of money. Money itself has no value. Its true value is what it represents, such as access to resources, or even intrinsic value, such as electronic contacts, jewelry, teeth. Collecting coins is not the issue either. Accumulating a huge pile under your mattress, never loaning it pr spending it, there's your evil.

        Compare it to bureaucrats whose only measure of success is how big their fiefdoms are.

        1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

          Any number of religions preach it as literal for Laity and metaphorical for Clergy. 😉

          And where's the evil of accumulating money under a matress...except for maybe giving your partner an achy back and coin marks on the body? 🙂

        2. Full Of Buckminster   3 years ago

          No one loves money for money. That’s not what the saying is about. They love money for what it can acquire.

          1. Sevo   3 years ago

            Back when, as a single, I'd often mention to an attractive female bar patron that I wasn't really this tall, I was sitting on my wallet.
            Quite of few of them seemed to like money quite a bit.

            1. flag58   3 years ago

              Too bad it was all credit cards!

              1. TrickyVic (old school)   3 years ago

                They love those too.

            2. Kanty Satanist   3 years ago

              Those are called "prostitutes," Sevo.

    3. Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland   3 years ago

      The love of unearned money is evil

      1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

        The taking of unearned money is the actual evil.

    4. markm23   3 years ago

      The love of _unearned_ money is characteristic of politicians and other thieves and fraudsters.

  2. sadoiro   3 years ago

    This article, as a "reasoned" narrative, exceeds the bounds by expanding into an ad hominem smear of the Sheriff without any comment from the Sheriff as counter-balance to the numerous comments from the farmer. It smells of biased, political motivation rather than a factual representation of the situation ... too representative of how the woke folks on the left rant-out their viewpoints. It's a meaningful story, true. The Sheriff was declared incorrect, true; and by someone with the authority to make said declaration. This represents the calm, "reasoned" way a community can work things out. Our communities are not served by folks stoking the embers just to reheat the conflict. In the end, there will be another Sheriff tomorrow; and yet, if we remain calm and function as a well-reasoned community, it'll all work out.

    1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   3 years ago

      I would be interested to know if the cattle are slaughtered and butchered on the farm, or sent somewhere else. If they are sent to an off site processor, I would understand the Sherriff having a case.

    2. JesseAz   3 years ago

      The confusion is probably in part c where it says:

      Section, "agricultural commodity" means horticultural, viticultural, poultry, farm and range products, and livestock and livestock products.

      So the law differentiates livestock from livestock products in part of the law.

      1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   3 years ago

        That was my initial confusion too, but once you see the two terms, it obviously includes steaks etc.

        What isn't clear is
        * Does the farmer himself, or family, have to do the slaughtering? If a local butchering company comes out to the farm to slaughter on the farm, is that still a farm product? If the farmer takes a cow to an offsite butcher and brings the products back to his farm for sale, is that still a farm product?
        * Do the products have to be sold on the farm?
        * Sales taxes are generally retail. Does this allow wholesale sales to stores, or does he sheriff / law assume all farm sales are taxable?

        I can think of a zillion more quibbles. I don't think any standard-length article here could answer them all.

        But the sheriff --- idiot had a lot of legal opinions telling him he was wrong. I hope he had to pay the winner's legal costs.

        1. sadoiro   3 years ago

          Be wary here, they're not "legal opinions," they're administrative opinions, a "reading" of the law. Only a legally qualified adjudicator [Court or Legislature] may offer a binding opinion. This keeps all of us out of the hands of bureaucRATS.

          1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   3 years ago

            The word you're looking for is "burrocrats", as taught to me by a Mexican woman. Rolling those rrrrrs for emphasis is delightful.

            1. Utkonos   3 years ago

              They’re worthy of that assignation

              1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

                The got it goin' on like Donkey Kong! 🙂

            2. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

              Mexican (and other) women rolling those rrrrrs for any purpose on any surface is always delightful! 😉

    3. sadoiro   3 years ago

      Please allow me to quibble with myself. I joined with the writer in declaring it was "The Sheriff" who brought suit against "The Farmer," I - as is the writer - was wrong. It didn't take too long to "reason" later, that it was not the "Sheriff" but the Tax Assessor - who just happens to be the "Sheriff" - who created the conflict. The Sheriff had no standing in the case. Further, and this exceeds all reasoning, where the writer expresses "the hope" that the citizens will "recall Seal. With Animus." is, by any measure, unwarranted. Why, because the Tax Assessor has standing. Neither the Agriculture Commissioner nor the States Department of Revenue [cited as standing] has authority ... they're of the administration, not the adjudication of Louisiana law. In this, the writer needs to read his own copy as evidence. He states: " Seal told the court....'The tax collector maintains that the term 'livestock' is not the equivalent of ground meat or other processed meat items sold direct from a farm..." This is the tax collector speaking, not the Sheriff.

      1. mpercy   3 years ago

        But aren't steaks and ground beef "livestock products". A few searches gives definitions like "livestock product means any product for human consumption which is derived to any substantial extent, with or without any process of manufacture, from livestock, but excluding milk and milk products;"

        1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   3 years ago

          Has to be; not even burrocrats think cow patties are useful livestock products. It's the key phrase.

          1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

            Ackshuyally, cow patties are fertilizer for both plants and great Country songs:

            Jim Stafford Sings Cow Patti Branson, MO
            https://youtu.be/OpapdB-bCFI

        2. Utkonos   3 years ago

          I have no beef with that, even the udder exclusion of dairy products

      2. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

        A Sheriff who is also a Tax Assessor? Do they not have laws against conflict-of-interest in Napoleonic Code Louisiana?

        A Sheriff who was also a Tax Assessor would have every incentive to assess taxes as high as he wants, then not only fine and imprison tax scofflaws, but also use asset forfeiture to get more booty to boot.

        Look, as long as there are patronage, mutual hand-washing, mutual back-scratching, gravy-train, cram-puff, phoney-baloney, crony job situations, they oughtta be strictly one job per customer. And no person with a pre-existing government job should be able to take any other government job.

        Government should not be seen as a career track in a free society.

        1. TrickyVic (old school)   3 years ago

          ""Look, as long as there are patronage, mutual hand-washing, mutual back-scratching, gravy-train, cram-puff, phoney-baloney, crony job situations, ""

          We have a term that wraps all that and a little more into one word, Louisiana.

    4. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

      It looks like the Sheriff is doing a good enough ad hominem on himself by continuing to sue this farmer for revenue even though the Sheriff loses every time. There is a term for that which also fits the Wokesters.

      1. JesseAz   3 years ago

        Thats not an ad hominem...

        1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

          He's showing his own character to be insult-worthy. I'd say that was a self-Ad Hominem. 🙂

          1. JesseAz   3 years ago

            A direct insult isn't an ad hominem...

            1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

              Well maybe it's not a self-Ad Hominem. Maybe it's just coincidental that he's showing his ass while also being unable to present a rational legal argument. 🙂

      2. markm23   3 years ago

        Inigo Montoya: "You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means."

    5. Quicktown Brix   3 years ago

      "BOTH SIDEZ!" now includes beaurocrats vs citizens? It's a libertarian take in a libertarian publication.

      Disclaimer: I am aware many commenters do not think it's an adequately libertarian publication.

  3. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   3 years ago

    Hey Peanuts can you believe how amazing this Biden economy is!!!!! Asia's richest person Gautam Adani made almost $2 billion yesterday and is up $60 billion this year. I bet if he lived in the US he'd support Democrats like I do. That means I get to gloat about his accomplishments as if they were my own.

    #TemporarilyFillingInForButtplug

  4. Jerry B.   3 years ago

    And a perfect counterpoint story.

    https://reason.com/2022/08/19/incompetent-people-are-often-too-incompetent-to-realize-just-how-incompetent-they-are-says-new-study/

  5. JesseAz   3 years ago

    SWAT called on man in Atlanta for defacing pride colored crosswalks w swastikas. Reported 2 of them. This man is a menace to society.

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/atlanta-man-arrested-allegedly-spray-painting-swastikas-rainbow-crosswalk-swat-standoff

    1. Nardz   3 years ago

      "The Atlanta Police LGBTQ Liaison Unit"

      1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

        Germany called their ground-breaking LGBTQ force the "Sturmabteilung".

        1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

          But recall they didn't keep them around.

          When you use the dagger for knit one, pearl two and can't produce more Aryan People, that's not very useful to the Reich.

          1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

            The contemporary version won't be kept around when they outlive their usefulness either.

            1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

              And you'll love that, right?

              1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

                Do I want to see GLAAD and its creepy alphabet sex cult lose their political power? yes.
                Do I want to see gays and lesbians oppressed and persecuted? no.

                Were you trying to insinuate something, Encog?

                1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

                  Well, you did once like quoting anti-LGBTQ+ passages from the "holy" works of multiple world religions, so...

                  1. R Mac   3 years ago

                    Ohh, you’re an atheist. So edgy!

                    1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

                      And so right too, on all assertions I just made.

                    2. R Mac   3 years ago

                      What assertions are you admitting to? Seems you might be short.

      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        Totally not a political unit within law enforcement.

    2. A Thinking Mind   3 years ago

      Looks like a dangerous white supremacist to me.

      1. Ted   3 years ago

        So, kind of like Shrike?

    3. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

      Izzat Misek?

      1. Unicorn Abattoir   3 years ago

        Why would a stormfag like misek deface a rainbow flag?

        1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

          He has indicated a desire to "cure" LGBTQ+ people by coercive means like camps for assisting in concentration, so I take that as yes, yes he would.

          1. Unicorn Abattoir   3 years ago

            Camps for assisting in concentration? Where would he come up with such an idea? Has someone tried it before?

            1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

              Yep, Summer camps after the SPRINGTIME!

              You know who else?...

              1. Utkonos   3 years ago

                Did you hear Herr Misek just introduced a new line of mattresses? Yep, you guessed it// SPRINGTIME!!

                1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

                  I'll look for it on TV side-by-side with Mike Lindell's crackhead pillows complete with teethmarks. 😉

                  Ol' Mike actually has commercial spots sponsoring The Benny Hill Show and Will & Grace on the HD channels! I wonder if he even knows? 🙂

                  1. Utkonos   3 years ago

                    There’s another obnoxious celeb selling pillows. HINT: He shares the pillows but Hoggs the blankets!

                    1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

                      Pan though I am, I'd rather sleep alone on a burlap sack of pebbles than with either of them or their wares.

                      At least sleeping alone, I can keep the Fleshlight and weapon of my choice by my side. 🙂

            2. Utkonos   3 years ago

              Got shut down—Too many ADD types would wander off into the forbidden zone, guard would just Rital-em with bullets. Bad optics

              1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

                Now if they were ADHD, they could zig-zag and miss the bullets. And if they were potheads, they could use a Zig-Zag and fly away from it all! 🙂

                1. Utkonos   3 years ago

                  Out of the pot into the crossfire?

                  1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

                    That's why you don't Bogart it. You share some with the guards in the machine gun nest first. 🙂

  6. Nardz   3 years ago

    https://twitter.com/RichardHanania/status/1560939973901029377?t=5fN3hQuRZGAoZD8Y4N0MRg&s=19

    Historically Black colleges get bomb threats that are never solved. The Biden administration decides to send them money. The colleges are now complaining that they're too lazy to fill out the paperwork to get it.

    The FBI has 34 filed officials on the case but have not found the racists yet. Administration grants are supposed to help with students' "mental health."

    [Link]

    1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

      Why don't they just arm the colleges and allow them to raid the surrounding cities themselves?
      It would be quicker and facilitate the process.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        As all progressive pretense vanishes, I would not be surprised.

        But it would eliminate at least three levels of bureaucrats in ten federal agencies.

    2. A Thinking Mind   3 years ago

      The FBI said no explosive devices were found, but HBCU leaders say not having a public arrest has created an uneasy atmosphere at their schools

      We have to appease the mob! We need a target for our anger!

      1. A Thinking Mind   3 years ago

        Also, HBCUs have like half a percent of enrolled undergraduates, but get something like 3% of the funding. They're very well funded by federal dollars. All colleges obviously want more money, so these administrators aren't unique, but it's annoying for them to play the race card.

      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        Anti-lynching!

        1. Utkonos   3 years ago

          Get that Merrill SOB too!

    3. JesseAz   3 years ago

      Thank God it wasn't pro life birthing centers or we could ignore it.

    4. TrickyVic (old school)   3 years ago

      ""Administration grants are supposed to help with students' "mental health."""

      Trickledown economics. The money will go to some agency that provides mental health services. Students may or may not show up.

  7. Nardz   3 years ago

    https://twitter.com/ajlamesa/status/1560829932686741510?t=cF1870mlrnXbMnbrgpu2qQ&s=19

    Bay Area school calls police in dispute over whether 4-year-old must wear a mask. Parents might sue

    [Link]

    1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      LOL @ masks.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      Given the location, I had to check whether the school demands masking, or the hyper-progressive parents demand masking for other kids.

      1. Utkonos   3 years ago

        Argh!! That’s my hometown Mountain View!! Ain’t what she used to be!

  8. Nardz   3 years ago

    https://twitter.com/walterkirn/status/1560930755131219970?t=GsEOcd1suVJxpHtdKiyLEg&s=19

    Despite the florid utopian rhetoric, conditions on the ground show no progress toward positive social goals. The poor are poorer, the young & old more vulnerable, cities more violent, war more likely. The prospect of an alchemical transformation, a reset, seems deceptive & insane

    1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

      "The poor are poorer, the young & old more vulnerable, cities more violent, war more likely"

      Then they already got their reset, now to capitalize and consolidate.

      1. Utkonos   3 years ago

        And the wealthy are all progs—at last here in the Shiticon hell which has transplanted my beloved late Santa Clara Valley, all of f those things are true.. Oh, and an exploding homeless population in places where maybe there were a handful in the not so distant pas.

        1. Utkonos   3 years ago

          Past

    2. A Thinking Mind   3 years ago

      The poor are poorer

      Cite.

    3. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   3 years ago

      "The poor are poorer"

      Good. 🙂

      #OBLsFirstLaw
      #InDefenseOfBillionaires

      1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

        The money has to come from somebody.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

          But it's not just the money. Groveling is important, too.

  9. Nardz   3 years ago

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/something-looming-geopolitically-and-we-better-start-taking-it-seriously

    There is no precedent for this. Never before in the history of industrialized nations has any government intentionally tried to lower its economic activity. It has never been done with intent before because within the contraction nations get more poor, people suffer.

    Not only has no single nation ever tried to intentionally shrink its wealth, but there is no precedent whatsoever for an alliance of nations to join together with the same purpose. While this might seem like an academic economic modeling exercise, unfortunately it is very real. What I am describing is happening right now, and we had better start talking about it before the unforeseen consequences start to become a crisis.

    1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      Equity for the stakeholders.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      I guess the luddites finally get their turn, at least as minions of the sadistic ruling class.

      1. Utkonos   3 years ago

        Luddites and Big Tech…Hmmm…WHAT was that thing that makes for strange bedfellows?

  10. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   3 years ago

    The other part of Reason continues its pragmatic reporting, seeming unaffected by TDS. Here's one on California planning to spend $100M to produce its own insulin.

    https://reason.org/commentary/californias-misguided-plan-to-make-its-own-insulin/

    The dollars are not well-defined enough for me to compare. Gavin says "Many Americans experience out-of-pocket costs anywhere from $300 to $500 per month for this life-saving drug" which seems pretty damned cheap to me for a life-saving drug, but being just another politician trying to justifying new expenditures, I bet the average is a lot less. Suppose the average is $2000 a year. That $100M would cover 50,000 insulin bills. Google says 350,000 Americans use insulin pumps. 15% is right around that 50,000 for California alone.

    Typical politician. If he really wants to subsidize it, why not just pay for it directly? Nope, he's got to build a new factory, half of the cost going to "product development", as if nobody knows how to make it already.

    1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      We can only hope it’s part of the preparation for secession.

      1. Ted   3 years ago

        No secession. Get rid of the left. They either leave with nothing or things get real fucking bad for them.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      But if the state runs a factory, think of the DEI graft.

    3. TrickyVic (old school)   3 years ago

      I'm sure it will be as easy as high speed trains.

  11. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   3 years ago

    https://reason.org/commentary/new-zealands-dangerous-prohibition-experiment/

    New Zealand politicians think they can ban tobacco entirely, I suppose because it is a small island nation. Not only will smugglers fill the need, so will farmers.

    Then there's the tourists. How many tourists will stay away because they can't smoke? How many smoking tourists will find out at the airport there's no smokes available and their own are confiscated, and then leave nasty reviews which discourage other tourists?

    At least they will entertain the world like the US did 1920-1933.

    1. A Thinking Mind   3 years ago

      Artificial supply restrictions cause the price to rise, and the rising profits stimulate increased production. The black market tobacco industry is going to boom.

      1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   3 years ago

        The first lesson of economics is scarcity: There is never enough of anything to satisfy all those who want it. The first lesson of politics is to disregard the first lesson of economics.

        -- Thomas Sowell

        1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

          You're stealing my quotes, asswipe.

          1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   3 years ago

            You're reading my comments, liar.

            I double dog dare you, again, to re-mute me.

            1. JesseAz   3 years ago

              He craves attention.

              1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

                But he won’t show the List.

              2. Ted   3 years ago

                And cheap booze.

            2. sarcasmic   3 years ago

              When you're not taking credit for quotes that I introduced you to or otherwise being a dick, you sometimes have interesting things to say. So, no. Fuck off I'm not muting you.

              1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

                .. quotes that I introduced….

                LOL

                1. JesseAz   3 years ago

                  He really thinks he is that intelligent. That everyone here is dumber than he is. Despite his entire history of posts.

                  It is amazing.

                  As if Sowell isn't well known and well quoted. Just utterly delusional.

                  1. Utkonos   3 years ago

                    Moving forward: Anyone posting quotes on this site from Ayn Rand, Ludwig von Mises or Friedrich Hayek has stolen them from ME!!!!

                    1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

                      You know who else said "Forward"?

                2. But SkyNet is a Private Company   3 years ago

                  “You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take” - Wayne Gretzky
                  - Michael Scott
                  - sarcasmic

                3. TrickyVic (old school)   3 years ago

                  I know someone who sings in a Doors tribute band that told me someone from another Doors tribute band accused him of stealing his moves.

              2. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

                Oh wow! Sarcasmic thinks he discovered Sowell.

                Alright everyone! The next time one of you quotes Stephen Jay Gould, Orwell, CS Lewis, The Bible or Carl Sagan you have to credit me, because I've previously quoted them here.

                1. JesseAz   3 years ago

                  Liar. I stole this one from sarc.

                  Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.
                  C.S. Lewis,

                  Do you know he also wrote books? Sarc told me that.

                  1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

                    Did you know there is a thing called a Cuban sandwich?

                    1. JesseAz   3 years ago

                      What??????

                      Like subway in Cuba???

                    2. Utkonos   3 years ago

                      “Subway in Cuba”…Imagine how often THAT would break down!

            3. sarcasmic   3 years ago

              As opposed to others, you know who you are, who never have anything interesting to say. Unless you think being catty like a teenage girl is interesting. Which they apparently do.

              1. R Mac   3 years ago

                “Unless you think being catty like a teenage girl is interesting. Which they apparently do.”

                sarcasmic
                August.20.2022 at 11:37 am
                Flag Comment Mute User
                You're stealing my quotes, asswipe.

              2. Ted   3 years ago

                Well, it’s better than being a surly drunk who has such a painfully hard hate boner for a good president that he supports a senile idiot who is forcing America into a depression, and concedes everything to our global enemies.

                1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                  I'm sure you floored JA, ML, Dlam, RM, BS with that comment. If they didn't squirt in their cargo pants they got visibly angry that you said it first. Well done.

          2. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

            One of the costs of quoting other people's quotes is that others can both quote those other people's quotes, as well as quote you quoting other people's quotes.

            Something, something. Life is trade-offs. Something, something. --Thomas Sowell.

            By the bye, I can quote Thomas Sowell because he's my Homie and we share a home County and for a lot of my life a City.

            1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

              Oh yeah? Well I know somebody who knows somebody who took some of his classes. So there.

              1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

                Oh yeah?

                Well I saved a bunch of money towards student loans by studying Thomas Sowell for the price of a newspaper in the old days, then bought his books to study for less than retail and then studied him for free when the InnerToobs came around. So there!

                1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                  Should I start calling you Goodwill Hunting?

                  1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

                    Nah. GoodWill is run by "The Family" from the Netflix documentary. Value Village is my thrift store of choice, since it is a Secular thrift store that supports kidney patients.

                    When online, I'm more like a Barnes & Nobleman or a Colin Powell's or an E.R. Hamiltonian. 🙂

                    1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                      Well my canoe can only hold three red flags while I hide it in the dollhouse. So we're all good.

    2. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

      This is the nation all the "nuclear freeze" Left wanted to move to in the Eighties because New Zealand banned nuclear weapons...unless of course, Red China, Russia, or Iran want to air-drop them one.

      The proposed tobacco ban and all the gangster activity that will result is just one more reason not to go! Hard pass!

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        You've got to think all the major nuclear powers have at least one bomb targeted at New Zealand, just to fuck with them.

        1. Utkonos   3 years ago

          It’s easier—and funnier—to just fleece their economy.

          1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

            Of what? Black-Market Marsupials? 😉

        2. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

          Either that, or NORAD loves to crank-call up the New Zealand Military and rub their noses in it. 🙂

    3. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

      Reason.org has a lot more pithy, thoughtful articles than Reason.com

      Too bad they don't let us riff-raff comment over there. 😉

    4. Jerry B.   3 years ago

      Hobbits without pipe weed?

      1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

        Yeah. And next thing you know, supply chain problems will mean that Hobbits will only eat 6 meals a day. 😉

  12. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    Cause: FBI group that raided Mar-a-Lago are the same counter-intel group that ran Crossfire Hurricane

    Effect: Polls show that the majority of the public see FBI as "Joe Biden’s personal Gestapo".

    1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   3 years ago

      Interesting -- any time I submit a comment with two links, the post gets hung up, never shows up, not even days later.

      1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

        Two is the maximum I ever can do.

    2. R Mac   3 years ago

      Which is why it was so important that outside of one guy getting probation, nobody faced any consequences.

      1. JasonAZ   3 years ago

        Until that changes, the FBI won't change.

        1. Utkonos   3 years ago

          “Don’t go changing to try to please me. You never let me down before. Mmmmm” —Billy Joel
          I STOLE THAT FROM SARC!!!!

  13. Nardz   3 years ago

    https://summit.news/2022/08/18/un-recruited-over-100000-digital-first-responders-to-push-establishment-covid-narrative/

    “So far, we’ve recruited 110,000 information volunteers, and we equip these information volunteers with the kind of knowledge about how misinformation spreads and ask them to serve as kind of ‘digital first-responders’ in those spaces where misinformation travels,” Fleming stated.

    1. Nardz   3 years ago

      "mobile-logohamburger-menu

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      UN Recruited Over 100,000 'Digital First Responders' To Push Establishment COVID Narrative
      Tyler Durden's Photo
      BY TYLER DURDEN
      SATURDAY, AUG 20, 2022 - 07:00 AM
      Authored by Paul Joseph Watson via Summit News,

      At the height of the pandemic, the United Nations recruited over 100,000 “digital first responders’ to push the establishment narrative on COVID via social media.

      The revelation actually slipped out in October 2020 during a World Economic Forum podcast called ‘Seeking a cure for the infodemic’, although it is only going viral on Twitter today.

      In the podcast, Melissa Fleming, head of global communications for the United Nations, explains how the COVID pandemic and lockdowns created a “communications crisis” in addition to a public health emergency.

      Fleming acknowledged that in order to fight so-called “misinformation” about the pandemic, the UN tapped up 110,000 people to amplify their messaging across social media.

      “So far, we’ve recruited 110,000 information volunteers, and we equip these information volunteers with the kind of knowledge about how misinformation spreads and ask them to serve as kind of ‘digital first-responders’ in those spaces where misinformation travels,” Fleming stated.

      That was nearly 2 years ago. It is not known how many ‘digital first responders’ have been recruited up to this point.

      The World Economic Forum · Seeking a cure for the infodemic

      Similar efforts to create astroturf campaigns to push a specific message are nothing new, but when entities such as oil companies engage in it, they are lambasted for rigging the discussion.

      However, when globalist technocrats at the UN or the WEF do it, apparently it’s fine.

      Last year, it was revealed that the British government used “propagandistic” fear tactics to scare the public into mass compliance during the first COVID lockdown, according to a behavioral scientist who worked inside Downing Street.

      Scientists in the UK working as advisors for the government admitted using what they later conceded to be “unethical” and “totalitarian” methods of instilling fear in the population in order to control behavior during the pandemic.

      As we previously highlighted, the World Economic Forum is now advocating for the merger of human and artificial intelligence systems to censor “hate speech” and “misinformation” online before it is even allowed to be posted.

      In what some dubbed “preemptive censorship,” the WEF is creating a system that would block posts from appearing if they fail the censorship filter."

      1. Nardz   3 years ago

        Damn, copy fail

    2. JesseAz   3 years ago

      Soo.... officially using Mao's playback now.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        What about "united nations" is not clear?

      2. JasonAZ   3 years ago

        Hey, the .50 centers around here can double-dip! Good news for Joe Friday, MollyGodiva, etc.

        Actual Libertarians commenters - hardest hit.

  14. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   3 years ago

    I realize it's the weekend, but can we get at least one anti-DeSantis piece today?

    With #TrumpDocuments guaranteeing Drumpf will spend the rest of his life in prison, the 2024 nomination is between DeSantis and Liz Cheney. And obviously Reason.com, as a key player in the billionaire-funded #Resistance, prefers the early 2000s neocon GOP that the Cheney family represents.

    #LizCheney2024
    #PutTheNeoconsBackInCharge

    1. JesseAz   3 years ago

      Here you go buddy. DeSantis is rallying with the far right who defended white supremacist in Charlottesville.

      https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/19/us/politics/desantis-mastriano-jd-vance.html

    2. JesseAz   3 years ago

      DeSantis is banning and burning dictionaries.

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/schools-block-donated-dictionaries-amid-ron-desantis-book-crackdown/ar-AA10RiK4

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      How about

      #CheneyAndCheney2024

      1. Utkonos   3 years ago

        One of your Cheneys got yanked

        1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

          If somebody yanks Dick's chain, it might be attached to the trigger of a hunting shotgun. 😉

          1. Utkonos   3 years ago

            This decade has its own Hunter issues

            1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

              For Hunter, the bag limit is zero, as long as 10 percent goes to The Big Guy.

    4. Ali Akbar Alexander   3 years ago

      EH, whatever pervert or liar or war criminal the GOP nominates is fine for this libertarian Black man.

      1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

        Nice blackface, Shrike.

  15. Nardz   3 years ago

    http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/tent-cities-are-taking-over-vast-stretches-of-our-major-cities-and-it-is-only-going-to-get-worse/

    If brighter days are ahead for the U.S. economy, why are so many tent cities popping up all over the nation? At this point things are so bad that even the New York Times is admitting that “America’s homelessness problem has the makings of an acute crisis”. That article goes on to explain that our homeless population is steadily rising. Tonight, hundreds of thousands of our fellow Americans will be sleeping in tents, under bridges, in overcrowded shelters or in their vehicles. Of course there are many that are so addicted to drugs or alcohol that they just sleep wherever they end up passing out. This is a tragedy that is growing with each passing day, and it is only going to get worse in the months ahead as the U.S. economy slows down even more.

    1. JasonAZ   3 years ago

      Until we start acknowledging it's a drug problem, not just a homeless problem, you can expect it to get worse. You cannot fix a problem when you miss-diagnose it.

    2. Utkonos   3 years ago

      #Newsomvilles here in California. What flavor’s yours?

      1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

        The NC equivalent would be called Coopervilles, though in all fairness, the blame belongs more to Progressive-friendly City governments who read the same journals on City management and hob-knob at regional government groups.

  16. Nardz   3 years ago

    https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/half-companies-planning-layoffs-or-hiring-freezes-survey

    A concerning survey of 700 US executives reveals that half of them are either actively reducing headcount, or plan to - while 52% have implemented hiring freezes, according to Bloomberg.

    1. JasonAZ   3 years ago

      What? I thought Biden told me this wasn't a recession.

      1. Utkonos   3 years ago

        It isn’t. It’s a Green Valley.

  17. Nardz   3 years ago

    https://twitter.com/julie_kelly2/status/1560999405221982208?t=TnQhAoiM06o3l_44a6bTdg&s=19

    Judge in Whitmer trial throwing his entire body on the scale to help government’s case: "You may find them guilty, even if it was impossible for them to successfully complete the crime." Wut.

    Judge basically told jury it doesn’t matter how many FBI handlers, undercover agents, and informants were involved, how many events, meetings they hosted and funded, how farfetched the ultimate “crime,” if defendants were predisposed to commit the crime (?!), it’s not entrapment

    Judge said that bc the FBIs kidnapping plot was so outlandish no one could pull it off. The homeless guy living in basement of vac shack would blow up a bridge, kill Whitmer’s security, kidnap her, put her on a boat and take her to middle of Lake Michigan. In October.

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

      Wow

    2. JasonAZ   3 years ago

      Unreal. You'd think a libertarian website would cover this story. Crickets. Huh.

      The problem here is this: the case will absolutely get appealed if the jury comes back with guilty verdict. The judges instructions are well beyond the scope of the law. But this case is all about making Whitmer look like a victim and ANYBODY that leans right is a villain. This is all about politics and her re-election.

      If the case gets thrown out later, the PR campaign will have already been successful. The case getting overturned will be buried by the media.

      1. Ted   3 years ago

        We’re really past elections and legal action now.

  18. Nardz   3 years ago

    https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/status/1560663299578298368?t=oCjSDjfw3OzXCfBMHja87w&s=19

    Notice the scenario in this IRS recruiting program is “taking down a landscape business owner who failed to properly report how he paid for his vehicles,” not “taking down a billionaire who uses the corporate jet for private trips.”

    [Video]

    1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

      That's exactly right. These agents don't work for free, so they're not going after me or you. It isn't worth it. Watch out if you have a small business though. They're going to try to shut you down as if COVID restrictions didn't destroy enough small businesses.

    2. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      .. taking down…

      Has a nice “customer service “ ring to it.

  19. Nardz   3 years ago

    https://twitter.com/GretaThunberg/status/1560981404447539200?t=Q0Cry5i9R_POmmsAZvN-KQ&s=19

    I started striking from school on August 20th 2018 ahead of the Swedish general election. It has now been 4 years since then, and a new election is on its way. We are still here, but the climate crisis is still absent from the debate. 1/4

    The most affected people from the most affected areas are still being silenced. The people in power still seem to be spending all their time distracting, delaying and denying the necessary changes ahead of us. The emissions of CO2 are not reducing - they are still increasing. 2/4

    The world is still expanding fossil fuel infrastructure and pouring astronomical amounts of money into destruction. We are still speeding in the wrong direction. There is indeed a long way ahead of us - but we are still here and we are not planning on going anywhere. 3/4

    As the election in Sweden is getting closer, we need you. On the 2nd and 9th of September we will send a message to those in power that we will not be silenced! Only voting is not enough - we must raise our voices to demand change. See you there!
    #RöstFörRättvisa #PeopleNotProfit

    1. Eeyore   3 years ago

      Why is her anxiety disorder our problem?

      1. JasonAZ   3 years ago

        Bingo.

    2. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      Is she even old enough to vote?

      1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

        Dude, she's a grown ass adult. She came on the scene years ago at like age 16. She's now 19 years old, I think about to turn 20.

      2. Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland   3 years ago

        Saw this joke here first but not mine
        When did CNN loose interest in Greta Thornburg?
        When she turned 18

    3. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

      I started striking from school on August 20th 2018

      What is striking from school mean? Seriously.

      1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

        The best thing to do when you want to talk about science is to quit school.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

          Get woke. Science! comes from believing really, really hard.

        2. Utkonos   3 years ago

          One only read one science-related article— THE!!!!!!

    4. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      Needz moar (voting) immigrants!

    5. JasonAZ   3 years ago

      Please notice that she and the other enviro-nazi's are NOT leading by example. They're trying to leverage the power of the government to force US to change.

      Jordan Petersen's recent video, "Back Off, Oh Masters of the Universe", addresses this topic quite well.

      1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

        You mean Jordan Peterson is Skeletor?

    6. Jerry B.   3 years ago

      Sounds like someone talking insurrection. Maybe time for a Congressional investigation?

  20. Ali Akbar Alexander   3 years ago

    You know what’s smellier than a cattle feedlot, Baylen? I’ll tell you. A big ol’ smelly Finnish vagina. That’s why I as a libertarian in the Mises/GOP alliance and GOP Proud gay (don’t forget Black) man I’m against hot Scandinavians prancing around in their underwear and doing lines of cocaine. What next? Swedes clad in swimsuits. MY…BLACK…ARSE…WOULD…RATHER…FUCKING…DIE!!! That’s what I say to that.

    Finland asks: Does a prime minister have a right to party?

    Uh, it depends. Is this “Finnish prime minister” favorably disposed to the greatest living libertarian ever, Vladimir Putin? If yes, then it’s ok.

    1. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   3 years ago

      Ugh, not this again. I thought you revived American Socia1ist because you took everyone's constructive criticism and realized this gimmick is terrible.

      Come on. Let's hear those American Socia1ist greatest hits like...

      "High-poverty, homeless-person-shit-on-the-streets California is the best state because of its $1,000-per-plate restaurants."

      "Bernie Sanders has no idea what he's talking about on immigration; we should listen to billionaires like Charles Koch instead."

      "The Biden economy is great because rich people with sweet portfolios got 30% richer in the first year without working any harder."

      #BringBackAmSoc

    2. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

      Damn, what an awful caricature of a troll! The Putin love is what did it! Get another sock!

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      Got the Pox yet?

  21. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

    Izzat Misek?

    1. Utkonos   3 years ago

      Izzat Misek—Isn’t he that Israeli composer?

      1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

        Hardly. I just accidentally put that line in the wrong spot.

        It's not refering to the cow picture either, though it would appeal to Misek's persecution complex to be called one of the "Goy Cattle." 🙂

  22. JesseAz   3 years ago

    Wow. FBI admits to Newsweek the documents they were interested in were the Crossfire Hurricane documents.

    The FBI collected all of the documents that were government property and used concerns about classified documents to justify the raid, but agents were looking for Trump’s personal stash containing documents related to Russian collusion accusations against him, fearing that he would “weaponize” them, Newsweek reported. One former Trump official said he may have planned to use the documents to help in a presidential run in the coming term.

    “Trump was particularly interested in matters related to the Russia hoax and the wrong-doings of the deep state,” the official told the outlet, adding that he may have intended to use the documents in a 2024 presidential campaign. “I think he felt, and I agree, that these are facts that the American people need to know.”

    These are the documents ordered declassified.

    1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

      "These are the documents ordered declassified."

      Not only were the documents ordered to be declassified and published, the courts have have also ordered them released and the DOJ and FBI have still refused.
      And now they raid a president's house as part of the criminal cover-up.

      This is an insane level of criminality by the DOJ and the FBI. Anyone involved should be immediately arrested. It's utterly unprecedented and beyond illegal.
      You want to talk insurrection, this is what insurrection actually looks like. Not some plebs "parading".

      Even the Reasonistas and fifty-centers should be horrified (but they won't be).

    2. JasonAZ   3 years ago

      Link? I'm not seeing this article on Newsweek's website. I'm curious who is saying what here. Anonymous sources?

      1. JesseAz   3 years ago

        https://www.newsweek.com/fbi-sought-documents-trump-hoarded-years-including-about-russiagate-1734280

        1. A Thinking Mind   3 years ago

          That article was fascinating. Basically admitting a lot of really sketchy information and hoping it sounds better the way they frame it.

          1. R Mac   3 years ago

            And looking at those comments, plenty of lemmings swallow it whole.

  23. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   3 years ago

    I've been talking a lot about how wonderful it would be if the GOP would return to its neocon incarnation by having Liz Cheney as its de facto leader. However if that's not possible — if she cannot beat DeSantis for the Presidential nomination — she might have a future if she switches parties like so many other neocons have done.

    Americans are split on their opinion of Liz Cheney as she weighs a presidential run. Most Democrats (60%) view Cheney favorably, compared with only 25% of Independents and 17% of Republicans.

    If Biden doesn't run again, maybe Kamala Harris could offer Cheney the Democratic VP slot.

    #HarrisCheney2024
    #(EvenThoughBidenIsAsSharpAsEver)

    1. Unicorn Abattoir   3 years ago

      Dick Cheyney would disown her. He's heartless, after all.

      1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

        That's just what he makes you feel,
        That he's a cool exec with a heart of steel...
        https://youtu.be/P1-EaWvLwp4

  24. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

    A decorated Marine Corps veteran, Smith retired from the service several years ago to go work with his dad at Smith Angus Farm, a ranch that's been in the family for more than 100 years.

    They didn't build that.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      Except the slave quarters, er, share cropper shacks, er, affordable but substandard housing. They TOTALLY built that.

      1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

        They TOTALLY built that.

        With slave labor.

  25. Dan S.   3 years ago

    If the steaks and such are not "livestock", then they are "other farm products", and are still exempt. "Livestock" suggests live animals to me, but it really doesn't matter.

  26. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

    Good Kid Productions dropped their latest.

    Why Frederick Douglass Hated Illegal Immigration w/ NumbersUSA’s Roy Beck

  27. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

    In libertarian commentary today:

    Salman Rushdie and the racism of shielding Muslims from offence
    Salman Rushdie and the racism of shielding Muslims from offence
    20th August 2022
    Those who want to treat Islam differently to all other faiths see Muslims as lesser citizens.

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

      And this.

      The monkeypox panic

      Why are public-health officials tying themselves in knots over monkeypox? Does the closing of the Tavistock spell the end of gender ideology? Why are the police arresting people over memes? Joanna Williams, author of How Woke Won, joins Chris Snowdon and Tom Slater to discuss all this and more on the latest episode of Last Orders. Plus, we answer your questions in our new postbag section.

  28. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

    In unlibertarian news.

    Seattle City Council moves toward outlawing gas-powered leaf blowers

    The Seattle City Council took a step Friday toward … BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

    (Sorry, that was a leaf blower roaring outside my window. Let’s try again.)

    The City Council took a step Friday toward banning the use of gasoline-powered leaf blowers, citing noise, health and environmental concerns.

    The council’s sustainability committee voted 4-0 to advance a resolution stating the council’s intent to phase out the tools for city departments and contractors by 2025 and for businesses and residents by 2027, “or later, if necessary.” The resolution would ask city departments to develop plans to meet those goals and also to design a public education strategy.

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

      “These fossil fuel machines harm the workers that operate them and the communities that have to endure them,” said Councilmember Alex Pedersen, the resolution’s sponsor, urging his colleagues to help eliminate “the harmful sound, the toxic fumes and the filthy debris” the blowers generate.

      Other cities, like Los Angeles and Washington, D.C., have outlawed the machines, and additional jurisdictions, like Multnomah County in Oregon, which includes Portland, and California are moving in that direction. The grassroots group Quiet Clean Seattle has been pursuing a ban here, and the environmental organization 350 Seattle has endorsed Pedersen’s proposal.

      I'd like a real, bright-line, hard definition of "grass roots" here.

      1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

        Well, maybe they are grass roots because this may be the most unscientific thing I've ever read in the history of unscientific retardation:

        Leaf Blower Noise
        Studies published by the World Health Organization show that, in noisy areas, there is an increased use of prescription drugs and an increased frequency of psychiatric symptoms and mental hospital admissions.

        Pets, birds, insects, and other animals also suffer, fleeing and cowering from the noise and debris. Even if your pets learn to tolerate the noise, it still adds stress to their lives.

        Even with earplugs, operators are subjected to enough noise to create ringing in the ears, possibly resulting in permanent hearing damage. Leaf blowers are deafening, literally !

        Leaf Blower Dust
        Maybe you haven't been so concerned about what you suck into your lungs. But you might want to know that the dust blasted into the air by leaf blowers contains animal droppings, spores, fungi, pollens, pesticides, herbicides, fertilizers, brake-lining dust, tire residue, heavy metals, and more. None of this will make you drop dead instantly, but epidemiological studies indicate that they are an important contributing factor to poor health and disease.

        Fine particles up to coarse particles, typically heavy metals, around 2.5 microns, can migrate hundreds of miles and stay in the air for days or weeks. 10 micron particles, such as smoke, dirt, mold, can travel up to 30 miles and stay aloft for hours. All are absorbed into the lungs.

        Would people be willing to "leave the leaves," at least in some places ? Leaves and grass clippings provide mulch, help build up the soil, and reduce frost damage to plants. What do you think about having your yard crew use a rake and broom where practical ?

      2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

        This is what happens when white people are "concerned for minorities"

        Nationally, 46% of workers in the landscaping industry identify as Latino or Hispanic, based on U.S. Labor Bureau data, according to the council’s memo. In 1998, after the city of Los Angeles banned gas-powered leaf blowers, some workers launched a hunger strike in protest, arguing they would get less work done and make less money with less-effective tools. In response, Los Angeles reduced its penalties, and the ban is rarely enforced there.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

          Something about "voting against their own interests"?

  29. Nardz   3 years ago

    LOL, apparently this is still a story:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/finnish-prime-minister-party-girl-submits-drug-test-over-leaked-videos

  30. WilliamSanon   3 years ago

    Great

  31. WilliamSanon   3 years ago

    I just worked part-time from my apartment for 5 weeks, but I made $30,030. I lost my former business and was soon worn out. Thank goodness, I found this employment online and I was able to start working from home right away. (res-07) This top career is achievable by everyone, and it will improve their online revenue by:.
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  32. DenverJ   3 years ago

    "Otherwise, he should admit that he cynically brought this case forward in a shameless attempt to generate revenue by publicly apologizing and offering to pay my legal expenses."
    One comma, right after the first word, and then not one other comma in the entire paragraph, thus making the speaker's point difficult to discern. Punctuation is critical when quoting someone in print.

  33. Utkonos   3 years ago

    Business owners in San Francisco’s Castro District feeling overwhelmed by homeless problem
    https://www.newsbreakapp.com/n/0hOF4X4v?pd=05vSRvT0&lang=en_US&s=i16

    1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

      2hen I was in high school, it 5ook around 10 yewrs for a trend on the West Coast to reach the East Coast. Now, it's no more than a few months. Homeless encampments are no exception.

  34. Kuni   3 years ago

    "In an obnoxious Facebook post over the weekend, the Washington Parish Sheriff's Office said it would not appeal the ruling and attempted to explain why its office had gone after a local farmer."

    So it's personal.

  35. Milhouse   3 years ago

    The article doesn't cite any part of the law that says "livestock products". It just cites "livestock, and farm products". Based on that alone, it would seem to me that the sheriff was right. Meat is neither livestock nor a farm product. Meat doesn't come from a farm, it comes from a butcher, who buys livestock from a farm and processes it. Calling meat a farm product is like calling furniture or houses a forestry product.

    But some commenter cited the actual law, and if it says "livestock product" then that probably does include meat. Even then, the sheriff would have a decent case that it should only include things like milk, eggs, and wool, not things like cheese, mayonnaise, or clothing, and meat is more like the latter than the former.

    1. Anastasia Beaverhausen   3 years ago

      No, the meat is processed there on the farm. There's no "buying livestock from a farm and processing it".

      Anyhow, had you clicked on one of the links above, you would have read about the letter from the Agriculture Commissioner. The Sheriff said that meat is not livestock, and the Agriculture Commissioner said yes it is, but it doesn't really matter because even if it isn't, meat then falls into the category of "food and groceries" which are not taxable in Louisiana.

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