Alito's Junk History About Lochner
The conservative Supreme Court justice is wrong about economic liberty and the Constitution.

Littered throughout Justice Samuel Alito's majority opinion in Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization, which eliminated the constitutional right to abortion, are disparaging comments about a 1905 case in which the Supreme Court overturned a state economic regulation.
"On occasion," Alito wrote in Dobbs, the Court "has fallen into the freewheeling judicial policymaking that characterized discredited decisions such as Lochner v. New York." The Lochner decision was both "unprincipled" and "erroneous," Alito declared. He even placed Lochner alongside Plessy v. Ferguson (1896), the notorious ruling which enshrined the vile doctrine of "separate but equal."
Alito is not the first judicial conservative to attack Lochner. The late Robert Bork, a federal judge who almost made it onto the high court, denounced Lochner as "the symbol, indeed the quintessence, of judicial usurpation of power." For conservatives like Bork and Alito, the problem with Lochner is that the ruling recognized a constitutional right that (in their view) does not and should not exist. "To this day," Bork wrote, "when a judge simply makes up the Constitution he is said 'to Lochnerize.'"
The problem with the Bork/Alito view of Lochner is that it is wrong as a matter of constitutional text and history. Indeed, the drafting and ratification history of the 14th Amendment make clear that the amendment was originally understood to protect a broad range of unenumerated rights, including the right to economic liberty, sometimes called liberty of contract, which was the very right at issue in Lochner.
Consider the words of Rep. John Bingham, the Ohio Republican who chiefly authored the first section of the 14th Amendment, which reads: "No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law." As Bingham told the House of Representatives, "the provisions of the Constitution guaranteeing rights, privileges, and immunities" include "the constitutional liberty…to work in an honest calling and contribute by your toil in some sort to the support of yourself, to the support of your fellow men, and to be secure in the enjoyment of the fruits of your toil." In other words, the 14th Amendment was designed to protect, among other things, an unenumerated right to economic liberty.
Even those who opposed the 14th Amendment's ratification said as much at the time. For example, Rep. Andrew Jackson Rogers (D–N.J.) complained to the House in 1866 that "all the rights we have under the laws of the country are embraced under the definition of privileges and immunities." "The right to contract is a privilege," he observed, adding, "I hold if that [the 14th Amendment] ever becomes a part of the fundamental law of the land, it will prevent any state from refusing to allow anything to anybody embraced under this term of privileges and immunities."
To say the least, the fact that both advocates and opponents of the 14th Amendment agreed on its meaning at the time of ratification is strong originalist evidence in support of the Lochner Court's reasoning and outcome. Contrary to the junk history peddled by Bork and Alito, Lochner is not a dirty word.
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Lochner has its issues, I think maximum working hours would pass the rational basis test of State police powers but maybe not the exact circumstances of the particular law. I'm not a law historian.
The real issue is seating the ruling in the "Due Process" clause of the 14th amendment and not the "Privileges or Immunities Clause". Substantive Due Process is something Justice Thomas has written about. The process was followed, a legislature drafted and enacted legislation.
Bullshit. It's a clear erosion of individual liberty and the Constitution (Article 1, Section 10, Clause 1):
If you think that law passed any constitutional test, you are a statist of the first water.
Fuck off, slaver.
You're getting too worked up here. And the fact that you cite an Article 1 clause for why the court should have found for Lochner means you at least agree with his premise that seating it in the 14th amendment is the real issue.
I truly don't know enough about this, but have to wonder what Alito's issue is. I would be surprised if his basis is that he's angry about people being allowed to work over 40 hours a week.
Believing that something is constitutional is not the same as believing that something is desirable. Libertarians can reasonably argue that a non-libertarian policy is, in fact, constitutional. That's because the Constitution is not, in fact, a libertarian document.
It makes you look ignorant enough not to understand the difference between libertarians analyzing legality and libertarians arguing policy, but to insult other people over it really takes it to another level.
You also don't seem to understand the meaning of the contracts clause, but I just leave it to you to do your own background research.
Yeah, I'd have to see why Alito disagrees with it.
Though, scanning for Lochner in the Dobbs majority, he cites it largely as an example of long held precedent that was overturned by later judicial rulings. So, I guess Lochner isn't in effect anymore anyway. Seems the case that overturned it involved the right of states to set minimum wages.
So, I'm not real fond of those outcomes, no idea what the reasoning is. Alito definitely calls the Lochner ruling bad in a few places, but I don't know his reasoning why.
*Quick reading looks like it is because it's a Substantive Due Process case. I'd have to read more. Might be a case where I agree with the plantiff but don't like the precedent created.
The rational basis test is retarded, it's the equivalent of playing the 6 degrees of Kevin bacon, only with state authority
Is Mr Root ready to reject the CRA of 1964 as parts are a direct attack on economic liberty? Just asking? And about that pesky 10th amendment?
How about a maximum working hour limit of 1?
And if 'due process' mean 'Congress passed a law' - then you have no rights. At all. Because 'Congress passed a law'.
"of judicial usurpation of power" -- What's so funny about that is the Supreme Court upholds "The People's" law over their government. The Supreme Court doesn't pack Gov-Gun to use against citizens.
So in reality; When legislative politicians (Gov-Gun Forces Command Center) refer to a judicial usurpation of power what they really complaining about is Individuals getting more power over themselves instead of giving that Power to their Gov-Guns.
"I hold if that [the 14th Amendment] ever becomes a part of the fundamental law of the land, it will prevent any state from refusing to allow anything to anybody embraced under this term of privileges and immunities."
Sounds good to me.
Yeah, I don't get that - that's what you were supposed to be doing from the beginning, guy. Was he not doing that?
by Andrew Jackson [D] (1829)... The most Pro-Slavery president to ever sit as President while the 14th Amendment was being used to Nationally forbid slavery.
Andrew Jackson was highly pro-slavery, but he died over 3 decades before the 14th Amendment was written. Did you mean Andrew Johnson?
I am wondering if Root could be bothered to explain what Lochner does, why Alito thinks it is wrong, and why Root thinks Alito is wrong. It does not seem that Root has written with any depth or substance.
My quick summary (IANAL) probably is wrong in detail.
The law regulated how long bakers could work in one day. It was not inspired by any theories of health and safety, but as a way to prevent hard workers from out-competing lazier workers, no different in effect from maximum wage laws or occupational licensing laws or other buttinsky laws. Memory says some big bakery leaned on legislators.
The court struck it down as a violation of ... economic liberty? right to contract? just guessing. It was quickly ignored in future rulings, as an embarrassment to Progressives and their social agenda.
The middle sized bakeries were catching up and beating out the larger bakeries. The larger bakeries pushed through the law (they already had a 12 or 8 hour day) to limit work hours in order to kill off the middle size bakeries
So the state told the bakers to NOT bake the cake?
Not if the employee was there longer than 8 hours (also the employee in question lived in a room adjacent to the bakery.) Cato had an event called rethinking (or reevaluating) lochner back when they were a libritarian think tank. It was really good and helpful. Stopped listen g to their events when they became proggies shills
You are so full of it. Go read the law that outlawed dirty disgusting unsanitary 'sweat shops' for making bread. You had to install concrete floors with drainage (ever work in a swamp in 100 degree high humidity?) and outlawed the practice of sleeping in rooms filled with undrained water; it required wash rooms. And yes it made 60 hours a week the norm with no more than 10 hours a day average. The law was passed when people saw for themselves, what Social Darwin was creating i.e. '...OMG! No man woman or child should have to work under these Social Dawin conditions ...'.
No one was forcing the bakers to work for that bakery. The difference between a free man and a slave is that the free man can quit when he doesn't like the working conditions or the pay.
P.S. I agree Root should have added background. David Bernstein wrote an entire book on it, and even a link to that would have been helpful.
https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/022600404X/reasonmagazinea-20/
I love Lochner. If you want to get aggravated and pissed off, read Holmes' Lochner dissent.
Root is right.
So is Thomas to the extent that he argues that the 14th amendment does protect substantive rights by means of the Privileges or Immunities clause, not through application of the due process of law provision.
In my opinion, the 9th amendment, construed together with the 10th amendment, is the best theoretical option open to anarchic (small a) positions.
Oh shit, hey Libertymike. Good to see you.
I don't see how. The 9A and 10A simply limit the power of the federal government. State governments have their state constitutions, which can be fairly restrictive and are unrestrained by the 9A and 10A.
And I don't think that you want to try to use the Constitution to impose libertarianism or "anarchism" on all 50 states. The fact is that a large percentage of Americans are either theocrats or socialists. If you want to live in a libertarian society, the best you can hope for is a handful of libertarian-leaning states within a United States having plenty of socialist and theocratic states.
No where in the text of the 9th is there an exception made for the states.
The constitutional delegates had no authority to "preserve" a state's power to infringe upon the natural liberty of the individual.
The 9A doesn't say "all rights not listed here are retained by the people". All it says is that, in effect, "this list of rights is not exhaustive".
If you don't understand that from the text itself, the original instruction for the amendment makes it clearer that the purpose was was to formalize the idea that those clauses which declare that Congress shall not exercise certain powers be not interpreted in any manner whatsoever to extend the powers of Congress. But that they may be construed either as making exceptions to the specified powers where this shall be the case, or otherwise as inserted merely for greater caution.
Racist judges read the privileges and immunities clause right out of the Constitution, because it clearly gave black men and women the right to keep and bear arms among other rights. Thomas wants to restore it, rather than continuing to torture rights against states out of the due process clause.
"Privileges and immunities" was clearly referring to a list (In)Justice Taney wrote in the Dredd Scott decision. This was a list of rights inherent to being a free man, which was wider than the rights explicitly listed in the Bill of Rights. (For example, Taney included a right to travel.) Taney clearly meant both the federal government and states must respect these rights - except Taney claimed that this was only for free white citizens of the USA, and that blacks could not be citizens because it was absurd for them to have these rights. That was circular logic, as well as being in contradiction of a well-known fact; free blacks _were_ citizens of several northern states, but Taney's list was uncontroversial.
So the 14th said that everyone born in the USA were automatically citizens, including blacks (take _that_, Taney's ghost), and the states were bound to respect his list of rights.
But most post-Civil War judges were just as racist as the Taney court, and when they decoded how the Privileges and Immunities clause meant no level of American government could infringe the right to keep and bear arms, not even for "Negros", they lost their minds and pretended they had no idea what it meant. Later Supreme Courts have thus spent over a century reviving one right at a time with the Due Process clause.
Thomas has long made it clear that he would rather bring back all the rights implied by the Privileges and Immunity clause at once. That might be disruptive, but it would not only overturn racist decisions still embedded in the SC's legal precedents, but be a big win for liberty.
Here's a wikipedia summary on reactions to it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lochner_v._New_York#:~:text=Scholarly%20reaction%5Bedit%5D
Looks like even Cato scholars put it in a category of a good outcome with bad legal reasoning.
Everyone apparently wrong on the 14th amendment.
"Without due process of law" basically meant "unless convicted of crimes". The words have been twisted and reinterpreted to mean "unless laws and regulations conflict, but only a little bit, you can't go too far with it."
It's absolute bullshit and everyone knows it.
Yeah, and I'll just name my priors here. I don't know much about this case or the arguments against it. I'm basing this on generally viewing Alito as a thorough thinker and thus giving him some credit when someone claims he's providing "junk history" rather than disagreeing with him on the conclusions.
Honestly, the same for everyone on the court. Kagan and Breyer are smarter than me. When we disagree on a conclusion, I don't have to look for them providing fake histories, or ulterior motives, they tend to state state their reasoning pretty clearly and it is very different from my own. That's a very different type of problem though from "junk history" though.
Kagan, Breyer, and Alito are all smart, but their reasoning isn't all that challenging.
The difference between them is what assumptions they start with, about what the proper role of the court is.
People like Kagan have basically thrown out any pretense of sticking to the original text or intent of the Constitution.
People like Alito stick to the original text and intent of the Constitution, except for a long list where SCOTUS has created elaborate arguments already to expand federal powers. For example, Alito doesn't seem to have a problem with incorporation or the extensive abuse of the interstate commerce clause.
In the end, all SCOTUS justices are primarily concerned with their place in history, their perception by their social circle, and their internal motivation to think of themselves as "good people doing good things".
That's because the 14A is a badly written amendment trying to accomplish something in a few sentences that states and other nations need entire constitutions and legal codes to accomplish.
A textual interpretation of the 14A wouldn't be so bad, but SCOTUS gave up on that more than a century ago, and now it's become a vehicle by which judges can fabricate Constitutional rights out of thin air.
What's interesting about Lochner, is that it seems to rely heavily on the purported reason for the regulation.
Damon Root and his Lefty beaus aren't wrong, it's the Supreme Court Justices and those awful racist law professors over at Volokh.
Which is weird because as Damon Root has pointed out, the Supreme Court answers to the constitution.
Source: https://reason.com/2020/12/12/trump-lost-because-scotus-answers-to-the-constitution-not-to-him/
Lochner has basically been ignored ever since and the feds and the states violate your "freedom of contract" in every conceivable way.
Lochner is actually one of the best and most correct findings issued by SCOTUS ever.
word.
Bravo.
Trying to impose liberty by using the 14A is a fool's errand. In the short term, you may succeed in a few cases, but in the long term, authoritarians are going to abuse the 14A to impose their will on the entire nation. And, in fact, that's what happened.
The vast majority of Americans is not libertarian. The best you can hope for in terms of liberty is to create a few libertarian-leaning states among a sea of authoritarian states, unified under a minimalist and hands-off federal government. And if the libertarian states succeed, their influence can spread organically to the other states over time.
"I hold if that [the 14th Amendment] ever becomes a part of the fundamental law of the land, it will prevent any state from refusing to allow anything to anybody embraced under this term of privileges and immunities."
sounds good to me, what's the problem?
"anybody" = non-white males...
The problem is that the language of the 14A is so vague that SCOTUS can use it to make up pretty much any "right" they believe Americans ought to have and that the federal government couldn't enforce under the Constitution and then impose it on the states.
Another problem is that it applies the Bill of Rights to the states, but that doesn't make a lot of sense because the Bill of Rights is largely only meaningful in the context of the US Constitution and federal government.
Something like the 14A is a good idea. The 14A itself is poorly suited for its intended purpose.
Well almost no reasons are actually given for Damon Root's conclusion. And the conclusion:
"Contrary to the junk history peddled by Bork and Alito, Lochner is not a dirty word."
It really seems to me that Reason writer's should actually use reason in their articles instead of obviously emotionally laden language.
A great read on the history of the 14th with an eye towards rehabilitating the Privileges or Immunities clause and ending the whole cloth concept of substantive due process:
https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0674257766/reasonmagazinea-20/
The thing is, no one seems to agree with you. Even people who like the Lochner ruling say that it was a flawed interpretation of the law to get the result desired.
Which is literally the same thing as Roe
No, it was not flawed.
What was flawed was the Supreme Court's gutting of the Privileges or Immunities clause in the Slaughterhouse cases.
Thomas has often implored the court to re-examine the Slaughterhouse cases.
He would overrule the holding.
If you want junk jurisprudence, read Holmes' Lochner dissent.
I'm curious as to why you're discussing a case that was overruled in 1937?
While a prohibition against deprivation of "life, liberty, and property" indeed amounts to a "broad range of unenumerated rights", that doesn't mean that you can "broaden" that range beyond the text of the 14A.
But the more fundamental problem with the 14A is that it contradicts what the Constitution was written to accomplish. The Constitution was intended to as an enumerated delegation of powers to the federal government, combined with a minimal set of constraints on states that would allow them to peacefully coexist within a union, nothing more.
And that union didn't have a problem with tolerating slavery in some of its member states; it was only when Southern states threatened federal revenues that this all of a sudden became a problem.
The 14A tries to turn the Constitution into a document that grants enumerated rights to citizens of states, similar to what European constitutions do. But for that purpose, it is badly written, badly thought through, and sloppy. Crafting the 14A should have been a big collaborative effort, but instead it was done by a well meaning guy who just wasn't up to the task.
And so we are saddled now with something that is slowly turning the US into a centralized nation state, with an ad hoc set of "rights" determined by a bunch of unelected, somewhat senile judges of unpredictable political allegiance who are mostly concerned about their place in history, and whether their next meal is going to give them gas.
Rights are defined, not “unenumerated.” Another “unenumerated” right? The right to kill your 16-year-old because he/she pissed you off? The only difference in this case? The amount of time that passed from conception. Some assumptions make sense - like extending “papers” in the Fourth Amendment to include computer files. Still private correspondence but in a format that didn’t exist when the Constitution was written. That said, women have been wanting to terminate unwanted pregnancies for millennia. SCOTUS did not say this was illegal but that it was not the Federal Government’s issue to decide.
Pfftt... You're so wrong it not even funny.
This has ZERO to do with a 16-year-old Individual who is life self-sustaining... It has everything to do with FORCING pregnant women to Reproduce.
SCOTUS works for "The People's" law !!!----OVER----!!!! their Legislative Government. They are NOT 'Federal Government Law'... They are U.S. Constitution (Supreme) Law - The People's Law OVER their Government...
You are pretending that The "Federal Government" keeps the "Federal Government" from becoming tyrannical. Right; and how's that going to work exactly????
Sooo... You don't like the idea of pregnant women who can C-Section out a child but instead "murders" that child who could be born....
#1) Over-turning Roe v Wade didn't accomplish that AT ALL. State's could ban late-term pregnancies during Roe v Wade... (Never-mind that accounts for a measly 1.3%)...
#2) Pro-Life didn't lobby to take the "murder" out of the abortion procedure (i.e. Fetal Ejection). They lobbied to use State Gov-Guns to FORCE pregnant women to keep reproducing...
If you cannot support ?baby? freedom (i.e. Fetal Ejection)
UR supporting FORCED reproduction.
"It has everything to do with FORCING pregnant women to Reproduce."
You're such a fucking clown.
If you cannot support ?baby? freedom (i.e. Fetal Ejection)
UR in every way shape and form supporting FORCED reproduction...
Whether you want to admit the reality of it or not.
A pregnant woman has *already* reproduced you stupid fucking toad. Telling pig-ignorant 36 IQ whores who can't master the art of taking a pill once a day that they can't hire a physician to kill their fetus 8 months after they decided to have unprotected sex is no more fORcEd REprODucTiON than telling people they can't drive on the wrong side of the road is forced driving.
A pregnant woman has *already* reproduced
Oh good; Then we don't have to FORCE her by Gov-Guns to keep reproducing then huh? That's all I wanted; Keep the Gov-Guns from FORCING people to reproduce against their will.
Delusional... UR completely delusional... But I'll play along just to show how crazy you are.
Damon Root he’s being intellectually dishonest when he describes this as Alito’s and Bork’s “Junk history“ of Lochner. He knows, or should know, damn well that this is the standard received history of Lochner taught to virtually every law student in virtually every American law school since the mid-20th century. He knows, or should know, damn well that this junk history originated with the progressives like Theodore Roosevelt as a means of attacking economic liberties to allow for the creation of the modern administrative state. Conservatives like Bork and Alito were late to the anti-Lochner party. Both sides now routinely accuse one another of “Lochnerism” When they dissent from an opinion in which the other side prevails.
By way of illustration, do you know how many liberal and progressive law professors I have read who claim that John Bingham and the other drafters of the 14th amendment allegedly never said anything about liberty of contract? Who claim that “liberty of contract” was something that the “Lochner judges“ made up? Dobyou know how many times I was told in law school that “liberty of contract“ was a lie made up by judges to protect big corporations and screw over the working class?
Describing this misrepresentation of Lochner and the attack against unenumerated rights as somehow being unique to Alito and Bork is extremely misleading. They are deeply embedded in American constitutional law. Challenging the misrepresentation of Lochner and the attack against unenumerated rights requires one to take on the entire American legal establishment, not merely two individuals.
And he probably would know that if he had attended law school. Or received any training, experience, or background in the law whatsoever. But as it happens his undergraduate degree in history is his terminal educational attainment.
The thing is that he’s usually better than this. He knows this history. That’s why its shocking to see him describe this an Alito/Bork issue.
Nomos magazine had a good series on this. First the "privileges and immunities" statement was effectively excised from the 14th amendment by the courts, then they gave back a little by saying if the deprivation of your rights is too egregious, that you didn't get "due process of law". Since when is "process" supposed to encompass severity?
I can see Reason really busted out the big guns and brought in their top legal minds for this one.
Kinda like their science correspondent being a philosophy undergrad.
"eliminated the constitutional right to abortion"
I quit reading here as it did not, it gave the States the right to regulate abortion not the Federal government. Yes abortion will be banned in some states, but abortion will also be enshrined into a divine right in others. Sensible states will probably allow abortion with regulations and exceptions. If Reason cannot state the reality I refuse to read the rest of their garbage.