Judge Can't Add 6 Years to a Prison Sentence Because the Defendant Called Him Names, Says Court
Plus: Coverage of Section 230 is overwhelmingly negative, Arizona cops who watched a man drown have been placed on leave, and more...

Calling judge a "racist ass bitch" doesn't justify six more years in prison, says Ohio's high court. Criminal defendants have a right to curse at judges without getting years tacked on to their prison sentences. That seems like it shouldn't be controversial, right? But somehow, the matter went all the way to the state Supreme Court, after an appeals court upheld a trial judge's decision to add six years to a man's sentence for calling the trial judge names.
Now, the Ohio Supreme Court has reversed the lower court's decision and ruled that the defendant cussing out the judge couldn't factor into the judge's sentencing decision.
The case involves Lake County Common Pleas Court Judge Eugene Lucci and defendant Manson Bryant, whom a jury convicted of aggravated burglary and aggravated robbery for participating in a group effort to rob a man in his home at gunpoint.
Lucci initially ruled that Bryant should spend 22 years in prison for his crimes—an already steep sentence that seems somewhat emblematic of what's wrong with criminal justice in this country. (The judge imposed a 12-year sentence on his co-defendant, but gave Bryant more based on the fact that he had prior criminal convictions.)
Understandably, Bryant was not pleased. And he reacted emotionally. "Twenty-two years? Man, fuck your courtroom, you racist ass bitch," he said, per an Ohio 19 News article at the time of his sentencing. "Fuck your courtroom, man. You racist as fuck. Twenty-two fucking years? Racist ass bitch. You ain't shit."
"You never gave me probation," Bryant added, according to Cleveland.com. "You never gave me a chance."
Upon hearing all this, Lucci added another six years to Bryant's sentence, imposing the maximum penalty allowed. The judge justified this decision by saying that Bryant's outburst showed he lacked remorse.
"Actually, actually … you know what," said Lucci, according to 19 News. "Remember when I said that you had some remorse? When I said that you had a certain amount of remorse, I was mistaken. The court determines that maximum imprisonment is needed. So that's 28 years."
Bryant appealed the sentencing decision. The Ohio 11th District Court of Appeals unanimously upheld it. But the Supreme Court has now reinstated the original 22-year sentence.
In a 4–3 decision, the Court noted that Bryant's words for the judge were unrelated to his underlying crimes and therefore couldn't be used to make decisions about his sentence for those crimes.
"If a defendant's outburst or other courtroom misbehavior causes a significant disruption that obstructs the administration of justice, that behavior may be punishable as contempt of court," wrote Justice Melody Stewart wrote for the majority. A contempt of court finding could have added 30 days to Bryant's incarceration—not six years.
To say that Brytan's outburst at Lucci showed he wasn't remorseful for the robbery doesn't make any legal sense, noted the justices:
There is no provision in the sentencing statutes that authorizes a trial
court to impose or increase a defendant's prison sentence merely because the
defendant had an outburst or expressed himself in a profane and offensive way.
And while a defendant's showing of remorse is a sentencing factor to be considered
by the trial court when applicable, it is hard to conceive of any honest and logical
assessment of Bryant's outburst that could be construed as being motivated by, or
evincing, no remorse for his crimes. …
At bottom, no matter how one looks at this situation, the statements
that Bryant made to the trial court during his allocution and during his outburst
were nothing more than a plea for leniency based on his belief that he could be
rehabilitated if he were given a chance to overcome his drug addiction. … It would be ironic for the trial court to view Bryant's outburst as an indication that he is likely to commit future crimes, which in turn warranted a six-year increase in the sentence in order to protect the public, when the plain purpose behind Bryant's statements was to
communicate his disbelief that he received a 22-year sentence, thereby not affording him a meaningful opportunity to reenter society as a law-abiding citizen after rehabilitation.
They added: "Trial-court judges do get offended and angry, that anger clouds judgment and that clouded judgment often results in unjust outcomes. The record in this case demonstrates that fundamentally, this is what happened."
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Major papers' coverage of Section 230 is overwhelmingly negative, according to a master's thesis from University of North Carolina journalism student Kathryn Alexandria Johnson. Her analysis of Section 230 coverage in The New York Times and The Wall Street Journal found that out of 204 articles discussing the federal communications law, 91.7 percent described it in a negative way. Some 107 of the 116 Times articles on Section 230 were negative, while six exhibited a mix of negative and positive views and only two were positive. Of the Journal's 88 pieces on Section 230, 80 were negative, four were mixed, and just three were purely positive.
A @UNCHussman master's thesis analyzed NYT/WSJ coverage of #Section230 in 2020 https://t.co/3qJ4UdaUav
That year, Trump tried to unilaterally repeal 230 & then tried to strongarm Congress into repealing 230. How did the media do covering these critical developments? ????
— Eric Goldman (he/him) (@ericgoldman) June 4, 2022
Johnson's thesis paper "includes a really useful description of Section 230 itself, along with its history, and some of the often confused nuances around the law," notes Mike Masnick at Techdirt. "Johnson clearly did her homework here, and it actually is one of the best summaries of the issues around 230 I've seen. The paper is worth reading for just that section (the first half of the paper) alone."
"The paper also explores how these newspapers sought to frame Section 230, and found that they did a very poor job explaining how it has multiple functions, often choosing to focus on one framing — rather than a more accurate framing of how Section 230 is structured to encourage multiple things," Masnick points out:
It protects websites from being held liable as a publisher of third party content, which encourages more websites to allow for more speech, and it protects them from content moderation decisions creating liability, enabling them to cultivate their communities in the way they see fit. Understanding both of these is kind of important to understanding Section 230, but it appears that these papers rarely gave a complete description. Also, perhaps oddly (or perhaps because they're just super confused themselves), they often used the publisher framing, even though they were really talking about the content moderation function — which may very well be why so many others, including politicians, are so confused about 230. …
Then there's the question of how often these two famed newspapers just flat out got things wrong about Section 230. The data may be lower than you might expect, as Johnson found it happened 16.2% of the time, but that's still kind of astounding. This is a fundamental issue that has gotten a ton of attention and to still get it wrong in about one out of every six articles is indefensible.
FREE MARKETS
Wage inequality gap shrinks. "We have, for the first time in 40 years, strong wage growth at the bottom leading to lower wage inequality," points out Arindrajit Dube, an economics professor at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst:
Wages at the bottom have grown much more than at the top in the past 2 years. This has led to a robust fall in wage inequality for the first time in 40 years, or more. https://t.co/wm8TXPaRjS pic.twitter.com/V6XZhajXUc
— Arin Dube (@arindube) June 7, 2022
FOLLOWUP
Tempe cops who watched a man drown have been placed on leave. The Tempe, Arizona, police officers who watched as a man they had been questioning drowned in a lake have now been placed on "non-disciplinary paid administrative leave" pending an investigation. Police are investigating the man's death in "an inquiry that will also be reviewed by the Arizona Department of Public Safety," reports NPR. "The Scottsdale Police Department is conducting a separate administrative review of how the police responded."
The Tempe Police Department has also pledged to release additional body camera footage from the incident. And "Tempe Police and city officials say they are also reassessing their water response protocols, what equipment officers might need and the placement of rescue equipment at bodies of water."
QUICK HITS
JFC JUST ALLOW BABY FORMULA TO BE IMPORTED NORMALLY pic.twitter.com/VHuP876JNW
— Eric Boehm (@EricBoehm87) June 7, 2022
• A mortality gap between Republican and Democratic counties has emerged. Using data from 2001 to 2019 that covers more than 3,000 counties, Brigham and Women's Hospital researchers found that mortality rates in Democratic-voting counties dropped 22 percent over this period but only down 11 percent in Republican-voting counties.
• "Russia on Tuesday claimed to have taken control of 97 percent of one of the two provinces that make up Ukraine's Donbas," reports PBS. "Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said Moscow's forces hold nearly all of Luhansk province. And it appears that Russia now occupies roughly half of Donetsk province, according to Ukrainian officials and military analysts."
• San Francisco voters' efforts to recall district attorney Chesa Boudin were successful.
• "You don't have to be sympathetic to the January 6 rioters and their tantrum over the outcome of the 2020 presidential election to have serious doubts about the U.S. government filing seditious conspiracy charges against the former leader of the Proud Boys and other members of the organization," suggests J.D. Tuccille.
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Calling judge a "racist ass bitch" doesn't justify six more years in prison, says Ohio's high court.
Then what's the point of being a racist ass bitch judge if you can't retaliate against dirtbags in your court?
What if you are marching and Democrats are scared? Doesn't that justify endless sentences?
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Gives new meaning to "a 10 foot pole".
Calling judge a "racist ass bitch" doesn't justify six more years in prison, says Ohio's high court.
In the world of Intersectionality, this is Unstoppable Force Meets Unmovable Object.
As Papa Heinlein observed: "Never kiss qn Anti-Matter girl. The results are quite explosive."
I Really can't form a good opinion without Rick and Morty reading the transcript.
See below.
Criminal defendants have a right to curse at judges without getting years tacked on to their prison sentences.
Relevant.
Judge deserves 23 years, and not for being a racist ass bitch. Nay, he deserves 23 for being a jackboot thug like the rest of the scum of the earth known as the justice system.
The Defendant was convicted of home invasion and robbing a man at gunpoint and the gravament of the case wasn't in dispute 9nly the sentence. That doesn't sound too just to me.
If the homeowner held at gunpoint had a gun and the drop on this man and his fellow thugs, the Defendant would have been sentenced to eternity in the Worm's Valhalla.
I was thinking more of when Larry Flint called the SCOTUS 8 assholes and a token cunt.
Sounds like a biologist.
I knew there was a reason I liked Larry Flynt. I had forgotten about that comment. The man was truly ahead of his time.
That seems like it shouldn't be controversial, right?
Says the womyn who applauds children stuffing money in the thongs of naked drag "it is not going to lick itself" queens.
Your ilk gave us "hate speech". It means what anyone wants it to mean, you racist bitch, ya know?
Says the womyn who applauds children stuffing money in the thongs of naked drag "it is not going to lick itself" queens.
Stop being h0moPHoBic, Yatusabes. Gay men just can't LGBTQ properly.
Very true. I've heard that gay men are the new Asians.
So, also more likely to vote (R)?
And strip me of my princess points!?!?!!!
Caution: the following has been deemed anti-TRANS and may be offensive to some groomers
To Wong Foo Thanks for Everything, Julie Newmar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZ3OG8DCn3A&t=74s
Vida Boheme: Since you have obviously learned nothing, I am hereby stripping you of all your princess points.
[exaggerated ripping up and throwing away motions]
Noxeema Jackson : Oooooh! That's voodoo.
Vida Boheme: When I think Noxee and I decided to take pity on this Latin boy in drag and bring her along with us...
Noxeema Jackson : "Noxee and l"? Uh, uh, uh. No, no! Noxee didn't decide anything. Noxee got dragged into this.
Miss Chi-Chi Rodriguez: What about the two of you leaving poor Miss Vida at the hands of this possibly dead Sheriff Dullard and you stayed stuck in this car like Mary Jo Kopechne?
Miss Chi-Chi Rodriguez: Maybe if somebody gave me back my "Princess Points", I would do the hitchhiking thing and get us a ride.
Noxeema Jackson: How you gonna hitchhike, huh?, if there are no cars, stupid?
Miss Chi-Chi Rodriguez : Well, you don't know me very well, do you, Creepella. I'm the Latina Marilyn Monroe. I got more legs than a bucket of chicken.
“Says the womyn who applauds children stuffing money in the thongs of naked drag ‘it is not going to lick itself’ queens.”
ENB did not advocate any such thing. She merely reported on it, with plenty of caveats stating she understands that parents might find it inappropriate.
Also, the photo of a child stuffing money in a dancer’s thong was not from the drag show; and ENB’s blog post clearly stated that the dancer was a woman, not a drag performer.
Caw caw!
Can’t wait for your mental gymnastics when a ‘minor attracted person’ rapes a kid.
I don’t think shoving ones in a g string makes it less inappropriate just because it wasn’t a dude in a thong. Just saying.
Now, how would she know if the dancer was a woman? Is ENB a biologist? Is she more qualified than the most qualified person in the US to be appointed to the next open SCOTUS seat?
Do tell.
"ENB did not advocate any such thing. She merely reported on it, with plenty of caveats stating she understands that parents might find it inappropriate."
https://reason.com/2022/06/07/drag-shows-for-children-under-fire-in-texas/
Find the quotes there that show "plenty of caveats stating she understands that parents might find it inappropriate." She did acknowledge that parents might find it inappropriate, but the entire section was explicitly defending the shows. She never claimed to "understand" why parents might object. In fact, the entire tone was derisive toward any such parents. If you consider that merely reporting on something, you have no room to criticize any other slanted journalism that you happen to disagree with.
As I have said ever since I first heard this nonsensical term, "There is no such thing as "hate speech"; there is only speech they hate."
Major papers' coverage of Section 230 is overwhelmingly negative...
Don't blame them. Those were the talking points issued to them.
This.
Exactly this.
There are times when they don't even hide it anymore.
Wage inequality gap shrinks.
Something will have to be done about that. Change a metric or something. This needs to be an issue for the midterms.
Dnot worry their wage increese didnt match inflation, were all good
This is a very nefarious bit of statistical sleight of hand. You can see the starts of it in that graph. Come with me and see all the gaslighting on display.
First of all, these are real dollars, i.e. corrected for inflation.
1) Note the weasel words "grown much more than". When in fact the accurate statement "continued to grow at about the same rate, while the rest of wages have fallen in real terms."
2) Note that they chose to only look at the 10th Percentile of workers- that is the bottom 1 out of 10 wage earners. Anyone want to guess why that is? It is because when you look at more standard measures like Quartiles or Quintiles, this looks more gloomy.
https://www.atlantafed.org/chcs/wage-growth-tracker
The 12 month moving average of the bottom quartile is +6.4% (not inflation adjusted). That means since October 2021 (when inflation hit 6.2% and just increased from there to today at 8+%) the bottom quartile has actually been losing money significantly JUST LIKE the 50th and 90th percentile that are graphed in this picture.
This is the gas lighting on display. Cherry pick the data "just so" and you can tell people that even though their paychecks are getting squeezed, "the poor" are actually doing quite well. Sure, "the poor" are the most poor of the poor, but if you are in the 20th percentile, you need to ignore your own experience and trust these experts.
So, they are real dollars? That was my first question.
Second, random one, is this actually only wage workers or is this measures of income that include transfer payments?
Real Wages only. Not transfers according to my understanding.
Got it.
Why tf would we factor in meager transfer payments? Just throw a tenth of a percent on top if you’re concerned.
Is this a joke? For low-income households transfer payments make up a huge portion of their total income.
Also, it's a huge amount of total expenditure. It's like, 1/6th of the economy now, I think. Mandatory Spending in 2020 was somewhere around 4 trillion dollars, and that is almost entirely transfer payments.
Particularly when looking at data from during all the pandemic relief.
The number I gave was from January 2020, so right before. The transfer payments from the pandemic put it way higher, which is bad, but also they are singular events rather than the actual default level of spending, which is about 4 trillion now.
Not to mention non-wage compensation, which has been increasing faster than wages.
And then there is the "household" factor. How many households now have only one full time worker, compared to 20 or 40 years ago? Household income obviously declines with household size, especially number of working adults.
Why does the Fed release nominal data and not adjust it for inflation?
Tempe cops who watched a man drown have been placed on leave.
Now is not the time to make your department look like a den of cowards.
Tempe cops who watched a man drown have been placed on leave.
But, but, but.....My body, my choice!!! Amiright?
You racist bitches are sooooo fickle!
::eye roll::
Police then go to talk to Bickings, who after several minutes climbs over a railing that leads to the lake. Asked what he's doing, Bickings says: "I'm gonna go for a swim. I'm free to go, right?" The officers tell him he's not allowed to swim in the lake, but Bickings keeps swimming.
...mortality rates in Democratic-voting counties dropped 22 percent over this period but only down 11 percent in Republican-voting counties.
Or after death do they simply continue to vote more often?
Their morality is also down
I'm curious what the actual rate of death is. Showing a drop when you don't show the starting state is sort of confusing.
Though, this doesn't surprise me either way. Lots of old Republicans, also a lot of the places hit hardest by opioids are in Republican counties.
Also the same states that got little or no COVIDBUX, because it was more important to help California shore up its broke pension plans than to allow old Jews in Florida to receive monoclonal antibody therapy for the plague that was sure to kill us all...
Went and read the article:
Mortality rates in Democratic counties dropped from 850 deaths per 100,000 people to 664, but in Republican counties, mortality rates declined from 867 to 771. The mortality gap widened across leading causes of death in the U.S. including heart disease, cancer, drug overdoses and suicide.
Democratic counties also saw greater reductions in deaths from chronic lower respiratory tract diseases, diabetes, influenza and pneumonia, and kidney disease.
Though, I dislike how the conclusion given by USA Today of the article is basically that this is a public health question and that Republican areas should adopt more health care reforms.
Aren't Republicans, on average, older than Democrats? Is this data adjusted for age ?
Certainly, closing hospitals for most of a year for "elective" surgeries and encouraging people not to see a physician for 2 years because trivial shit like cancer screenings paled in comparison to the deadly 'rona couldn't have had anything to do with it, considering Republicans are generally older, more rural, and fatter than the average.
The numbers for this end before the pandemic began.
Well, that's what I get for not clicking the link. It would be interesting to see followup data that covers our COVID hysteria.
Is it surprising that more conservative (and thus generally older) people die more often than liberal (and thus generally younger) people?
“The real reason why we think this gap occurred between Democratic and Republican counties is because of what’s going on with white Americans,” Warraich said. “White Americans who live in Democratic areas are much more likely to have great improvements in health compared to white people who live in Republican counties.”
Huh.
Citations only mention CDC and MIT. No word on Census data. As in, "Aging Democrats flee CA to die in rural TX" would also seem to fit well within the data.
Yeah, without having a median age added to this data point, it's rather hard to make any firm conclusions. I would expect "blue" areas to be urban and younger. "Red" areas, more rural with more older folks in retirement age.
Using life-expectancy is a good metric for this overall rather than mortality rate, which feels like a weird statistic to me to use in a general population. Mortality rate of diabetics, or at age N, or cancer patients, sure. Just how many people are dying in the general population is weirder.
That being said, the opioid epidemic being so high is almost certainly impacting their life expectancy. It's so significant that it explains most of why national life expectancy has fallen the last decade or so. So, in the counties hit hardest it is going to be an even bigger issue.
Pity they didn't put any age data on the counties. If R counties also got nominally older because young democrats moved to D counties or older republicans moved in it would easily explain the shift.
As it is, it looks like a study that may have been rigged to produce a desired outcome. I didn't see a direct link to it in the article.
This is just a survey of the number of Undead in each Party...and a very inaccurate, undercounted one at that. 🙂
It's also noteworthy that a lot of the "Red Counties" are in the south where there is more obesity. I am curious what happens when you correct for that.
So protesting an election where the rules were illegally changed is a tantrum.
At this point if you are protesting aginsst the pros might as well bring guns and bombs to kill the sum humans in DC. If your going to get charged for it anyway in a show trial L, might as well earn it
Not just DC
See, when you protest their pet issues it's: stunning, brave and your duty as a free American citizen. When you protest your issues, it's a tantrum.
Just like with tribes of chimps.
That "Tantrum" bit was quite telling.
What is the point of using that word? Whether it was a Tantrum, or a Protest, does 2Chile's point change at all? It doesn't seem like it to me.
The only point of that statement is to signal. "Listen, guys, I'm like you so don't kill the messenger here, ok?"
It's not primarily to signal that. It's primary purpose is to signal that totalitarian leftism is generally legitimate, and opposition/objection to it is generally illegitimate.
You can't keep pretending these evil pieces of shit, your enemies, ate good faith actors who share some values with you. Reality contradicts such generosity all too often.
But fuck it, do whatever you want I guess.
Things are going to keep getting worse, and we're completely fucked anyway.
Yeah, the point of using the word "tantrum" is to signal, but also to belittle anyone who participated in J6. It's to delegitimize the protestors as well as the cause. It makes them look like crybabies who are mad they lost, instead of voters with serious questions about the election.
The only point of that statement is to signal. "Listen, guys, I'm like you so don't kill the messenger here, ok?"
I know almost exactly a year ago is hard for some people, but if you'll allow me to exercise my superhuman powers to reach into the memory hole:
In Washington, D.C., law enforcement forcibly and very publicly ejected mostly peaceful protesters from the area in front of St. John's Episcopal Church so the president could stage a photo op.
The above would be a quote from Tuccille, less than a week after "mostly peaceful protestors" set fire to the same church.
What!?! Reason editors behaving like far left progressives and pushing the narratives for the DNC? But isn't this a Libertarian website?
As Frank Zappa would say: It was a petulant frenzy.
When their brownshirts chimped out and beat the fuck out of an immigrant limo driver while burning his livelihood to the ground in front of him in the course of burning 2 square miles of D.C. after Trump was elected, that was just noble, fiery but peaceful protest. Walking around the US capitol building to protest illegal election changes made in dozens of states was a tantrum.
Again, tribes of chimps.
Both seem bad. Why do you feel the need to use one incident to excuse the other?
Nobody’s excusing shit, just pointing out the glaring discrepancies about how people are being prosecuted based on their political affiliation. Something that should concern libertarians, Dee.
Both seem bad. Why do you feel the need to use one incident to excuse the other?
Because one WASN'T bad you brainless fuck. People walked into the open doors of the Capitol. They didn't smash them down, they didn't burn them. They WALKED IN.
And no one is excusing anything. BOTH incidents happened--but only one was a deliberately violent destructive riot designed to instill fear of the power of the mob--and that one happened repeatedly from the day Trump was elected.
Wake the fuck up. You, Reason, and Ben fucking Shapiro, peas in an idiotic pod.
Because one is standing up for our system and the other is tearing it down. Election integrity is the most important thing about an election - not so much who wins - that's irrelevant. When it comes to having an election SYSTEM, the fact that it was NOT secure, was in fact riddled with errors, malfeasance, and total outright cheating - makes the entire system worthless - and the results are unusable. We have an illegitimate govt, installed by widespread, massive, coordinated fraud.
The judge justified this decision by saying that Bryant's outburst showed he lacked remorse.
More like he lacked courtroom etiquette.
Exactly. You say "with all due respect" out loud, and the "racist ass bitch" part under your breath.
Be cause everyone knows the "due respect" part is zero or less.
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Thus, not mostly peaceful?
Russia on Tuesday claimed to have taken control of 97 percent of one of the two provinces that make up Ukraine's Donbas...
Not really sure what that has to do with Pride Month.
Or abortion!
If Putin needs more cogs in his machine, most likely it will mean fewer or no abortions.
The conflagration of fire that was once farmlands does, in fact, create a colorful tapestry.
That colorful tapestry needs to be on Putin and the Putineer's asses. That would give us all something to be Proud about.
It means there will be no Pride Parade in 97 percent of one of the two provinces that make up Ukraine's Donbas.
San Francisco voters' efforts to recall district attorney Chesa Boudin were successful.
"We don't want our progressive ideology actually put into practice."
“Real progressivism should never be tried.”
"We were supposed to be the officers, not the subjects!"
...serious doubts about the U.S. government filing seditious conspiracy charges against the former leader of the Proud Boys and other members of the organization...
Didn't that guy turn out to be an FBI informant?
It's all part of the plan to get an informant into prison, with an unimpeachable back story.
A black Proud Boy might be too much the outlier in prison to gain any confidences in the various gangs.
What is wrong with this re-labeled mourning lynx? This has been bugging me for a long time.
* Too many lazy links to NYT and WaPo, hardly paragons of virtue or trustworthiness. Better than Pravda or the Wobblies newspaper, but that's a low bar. Plus, they are paywalled and unviewable by me.
* Too many lazy links to Reason articles published the day before. Besides being even lazier than the NYT and WaPo links, they smack of self-promotion.
* The discussions around those links mainly just regurgitate quotes. What little value added there is, is pretty shallow.
I suppose the name "roundup" should be a clue, but it seems to have gone downhill pretty steadily.
What would I like instead?
* A more diverse set of links, and more of them, with just a few words of commentary to give some basic idea on the subject.
* Drop the big quote regurgitations and just have links. The pretense of being an analysis has long since worn thin and doesn't fool anybody.
1. As we learned from the wapost and libs of tictock, posting links is violent harrassment
2. Don't ask for more diverse links, ENB will link to her friends at salon, huff post, and mother jones
How many days since an Yglesias link?
Better than Pravda or the Wobblies newspaper
Maybe 10 years ago. Not even state propaganda outlets like CCTV or Pravda would put their name on the kind of garbage peddled by the New York Times or Washington Post these days.
It is an interesting difference. State propaganda just repeats the same simple lies over and over. Woke propaganda dresses it up in ever more lurid tales to the point that the Babylon Bee treads an ever finer line between reality and implausibility. I will hand that to the Wokists; they have an imagination beyond compare. If the Babylon Bee had been around 10 or or even 5 years ago to write about puberty blockers and Disney groomers, and the DNC backing them, they'd have been out of business.
I have been saying this for months. ENB may be mostly libertarian, but she lives (physically and virtually) in a liberal enclave. Her entire news cycle is driven by what blue-check Twitterratti and other liberals are talking about.
This leads her to ignore shit that isn't trending on Twitter. And to only frame things the way liberals are framing them. That is why she is posting an obscure tweet claiming to say that the "wage gap is shrinking" when it is really not much more than a PR trial balloon being readied for the November elections.
As I have said before, I truly do believe that ENB has libertarian proclivities. But because she lives solidly in a blue bubble, it really costs her nothing if those liberals impose their worldview on the rest of America. This leads her to have incredible blind spots- especially when it comes to sourcing her content for the lynx.
There's absolutely no reason to believe ENB isn't anything other than a progressive leftist totalitarian, but keep bending over backwards to accommodate the most evil people who exist if it makes you happy.
She’s a propagandist.
You mean like Putin, eh, Dugin Hooligan?
So, at best ENB is a leftist dupe? And not herself a liberal with a few pet issues that play well with libertarians?
No. I think if you asked her what she thought about, say, forcing people bake gay wedding cakes, she'd tell you that it it is wrong. If you asked her if the government should censor Trump, she'd say it is wrong.
But none of these things live in a vacuum. None of us get to take these things in isolation. Instead it is, "Choose one: living your life around deplorables, or forcing them to bake cakes" she would likely choose the latter. She is so wrapped up in the culture wars (as are several others) that they might "regret" the boot on some deplorables, but won't do much to fight for them if it means sacrificing the blue bubble that she enjoys so much.
I think a lot of the Silicon Valley titans were the same way, fwiw. Having spent time adjacent to people like Dorsey (former Twitter CEO), you realize that they agree a lot with the social values of leftist authoritarians. And so when these zero sum conflicts come up, they repeatedly side with the left, even if that means eroding the freedoms of the right.
In any objective evaluation, that makes ENB a leftist.
Which is a long winded way to say they don't actually believe any of the libertarian things they say, they just say that because it plays well in mixed company but their heart of hearts as revealed by their deeds is leftist totalitarian.
Libertarianism as a "party" is basically Open Borders Anarchism. That's what the LNP is, that's what the Reason leadership team is, and its also basically what the "progressive" terrorists in black bloc are - whether they have a DNC sticker, a BLM shirt, a Bernie button, what they really want is the power to cancel all of their political adversaries and let blacks roam around stealing reparations from whites and Asians (basically its whoever has stuff they can steal - but they like to presume all Stuff is owned by evil white supremacists, because that makes it easier to justify being a lowlife looter-thief-street thug, psychologically. They might be low IQ sociopaths, but they aren't immune to some self-doubt.
That would require more intelligent planning than most lefties are capable of. Much more likely to simply have no real core principles, only to have memorized libertarian talking points.
Overt, I really enjoy your take on most subjects. But I think you're off base here. ENB is clearly a FAR left progressive. Her disdain for anybody on the right side of the political spectrum is the tell. She rarely offers criticism of progressives, and when she does, it's a both sides argument. Her recent comments related to recalled DA Boudin is quite telling.
ENB shares a few positions/issues with Libertarians, but it's more about the position that the underlying principles of Constitutional rights and personal freedom. Again, her comments on abortion recently are telling. RvW clearly indicated limits, but her far left position is unrestricted abortion, despite any concerns about the Constitution or the legitimate discussion about the rights of the unborn.
How do you figure that her abortion position is "far left"? I understand that many libertarians consider abortion a crime against the rights of the unborn, and I don't think that's an invalid position to take. But being more absolutist on abortion rights is consistent with a libertarian position if you place a person's rights to control their own body above the rights of the unborn to exist. This is an argument that happens within libertarianism all the time. So I'm interested how you decide to label that position as far left, beyond the fact that much of the far left takes a similar position.
I don't know if ENB is genuinely libertarian or not. I'd want to have an actual conversation with her to decide.
Zeb, ENB's comments related to ANY restrictions on RvW is what I consider far left. RvW had clear limitations regarding abortion; specifically, viability. That isn't my opinion, that is fact.
ENB rails against ANY restriction to abortions. Whether it's treating abortion clinics as any other medical facility (and requiring the same legal standards) or placing viability restrictions, the same as EU countries; ANYTHING that isn't abortion up to birth canal, ENB is against it. That isn't Libertarian at all. That is FAR left feminism.
"ENB is clearly a FAR left progressive."
No I completely disagree here. In my mind a progressive is a person who argues for the government to institute social "progress". That is things like, equality of outcome, protection of minorities, protection of sex workers, etc etc.
I don't think that ENB actually wants the government to force these things on people. But since we live in a world where those things are pushed by the government, she finds herself in agreement with the people who are pushing it on the government. And if she is going to have to choose, ENB would rather live among an Authoritarian Left than an Authoritarian Right. *shrug*
Chemjeff is the same way- he wants lefty outcomes. And even though he would prefer that the government not impose these things on us, he isn't to broken up when he does it.
These people regularly let their preferences override their principles. Of course, we all do. A perfect example is the Florida AB 506 (or whatever) law. In my perfect world, we'd have parents in control of their kids' schooling. But since MY preference is not to have marxist ideology and queer theory pushed on my kids, I let that override my principle and I support the law. Because getting government out of schools isn't going to happen right away.
"And if she is going to have to choose, ENB would rather live among an Authoritarian Left than an Authoritarian Right."
This is precisely what makes her a far left progressive. IMO, a true Libertarian would pick neither of those choices! That's not to say that we can choose the least harmful of two bad choices OR that we can determine that party X is more hostile to free speech currently. In those two scenarios, you'll find yourself picking the Dems sometimes and the GOP on other occasions.
ENB always picks Dems. She defends them, excuses them and follows them exclusively. Progressives are taking their children to a drag show. Instead of being concerned about the morality of this decision, she blames Republicans/Conservatives for pouncing. Then, she whitewashes what was actually occurring at the event, despite her lying eyes. (Kudos to your comments on this, which I mostly agree with.)
Similarly, look at her defense of San Fran DA getting recalled. Defends the DA, blames Republicans/Conservatives and misrepresents the crime "statistics". (More violent crime, but less over-all crime non-sense.)
You can decide that she's just willfully ignorant, but I won't be so charitable.
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1534511084425576449?t=3ZLCm6FRjYmGc75P0RhNRA&s=19
“Ozzie” Myers of Philadelphia plead guilty today to conspiracy to deprive voters of civil rights, bribery, obstruction of justice, falsification of voting records, and conspiring to fraudulently stuff the ballot boxes for specific federal Democrat candidates
No Widespread fraud
It was only for 2014-2018. It all stopped after that.
He is sentenced to being called a very bad person by the judge
Good thing he did not swear in court.
https://twitter.com/ohiomatt/status/1534206220210515968?t=_m1NkPWP4StawFLshLjlNg&s=19
Very good @Heminator piece on impact of Zuck Bucks on 2020 election--see pics showing HEAVY concentration of $$$ in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania & Georgia--simple question: same results minus $350 million Zuck Bucks? Only fool or liar would say "yes."
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“The report contrasts with a report Zuckerberg commissioned in December, which emphasized that “more Republican jurisdictions, defined as municipalities that voted for Trump in 2020, applied for and received grants.”
Doyle and Oliver say this conclusion is misleading because Republican jurisdictions were far more likely to receive grants of less than $50,000, which, they wrote, were “likely not substantial enough to provide the funding, infrastructure, and personnel to materially change election practices in the recipient jurisdiction.” These small grants comprised 27% of the center’s awards.”
So more jurisdictions were republican, but only 27% of the money.
It's almost like massive fraud in a half dozen counties in this entire fuck hole of a country determined the election or something.
Imagine you are funding GOTV campaigns in a "non-partisan" way. You have three precincts:
1) Dense urban center
2) Suburban enclave
3) Rural area
The only expense for #1 that is going to be more expensive is real estate. But in general these grants were not for acquiring new offices, they were for things like going out and knocking on doors, helping people fill out forms, and setting up drop boxes (and arranging for them to be picked up).
In all of those cases, you would expect the per-capita costs to be higher for #2 and #3. Yet, the per-capita expenditures for #1 were orders of magnitude higher for #1. In downtown greenbay, you could send a single activi- er, I mean, poll worker to an apartment building and get 200 ballots. In a suburban district, that would require going door to door in an entire neighborhood. In a rural precinct, that could mean driving dozens of miles. There is no way it is more expensive to run mail in vote processes in urban areas.
Again, this didn't require outright fraud. It just required the left to do EVERYTHING in their power to make it easy for democratic voters to deposit an envelope, while doing next to nothing to help republicans.
Also important in that article:
This whole "we are non-partisan" thing from the Zuck group was ostensibly true. But the coordination wasn't. THAT'S THE TRICK!
This whole new way of funding was completely unprecedented. No one had heard of this before. Unlike colleges and R&D firms, election offices don't have people dedicated to surveying the landscape for potential Grants and writing up proposals. These are small city offices with multiple duties, and who were likely isolated and working from home.
This is super important to realize: No precinct was going to have the awareness or skills to apply unless someone helped them. And strangely, VERY PARTISAN groups just happened to know how to connect VERY DEMOCRAT precincts to this "non partisan" organization with grant proposals. It is a fact that in Pennsylvania, Gov Wolfe's office was directly going out to Dem-heavy precincts and "inviting" them to apply for these funds. But there were several other straight up liberal non profits who strangely knew everything about the process, and all the ways to get Activists hired onto these election precincts to run the elections.
This wasn't outright fraud: it was a magic trick. It was a bunch of smoke and mirrors, while the con was going right under everybody's nose.
At least it stopped the incessant whining from the left about "big dollars" in politics.
https://twitter.com/kerpen/status/1534402593169997825?t=dX1dGTAIrXJAZ8lVnH5a1A&s=19
Twitter slapped a warning on the **Journal of the American Medical Association** for the wrongthink crime of publishing data showing rapid waning of COVID vaccines in children.
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Reminds me of how Twitter also blocked the American Heart Association and virologists with the Oxford Virology Department (who ironically were working on the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine) for Covid misinformation.
Or how Facebook blocked the world's premier medical journal, the British Medical Journal, for criticizing Pfizer's testing process, and called it a blog.
JFC JUST ALLOW BABY FORMULA TO BE IMPORTED NORMALLY pic.twitter.com/VHuP876JNW
— Eric Boehm (@EricBoehm87) June 7, 2022
We need separation of government and economy.
Boehm campaigned and voted for the hell we're in, so he too should hang from a lamppost
All of bohem bitchy articles are literally complaining about what Biden campaigned on, and what he voted for. He is a trash retard
+1 - Return to normalcy
Hopefully Boehm gets what’s coming to him if things get really ugly. Most likely by other leftists.
Biden is attempting to perform command economy action on solar cells currently. It's pretty bad.
How about commanding solar cells to produce baby formula?
And electric cars. And vaccines. And the sexual identity and race of company board members. And whether a company is unionized. Parental leave. Minimum wage. Should i go on?
But don’t you dare call them fascists.
It's actually getting to be socialistic, in the real sense of that word not the sort of catch-all thrown around. I hope he gets rebuked on this, because as of now it's pretty limited.
It’s the best of both fascism and socialism!
Throw in some nationalism, and what do you get?
I’m more concerned with the globalist aspect at the moment, but that could change.
iNazis are far more ambitious than Nazis, and have greater reach
Printing out baby formula didn't work out, so now they're pivoting to printing out electricity.
Ghost baby formula and ghost electricity? Sounds nefarious.
https://twitter.com/JonnyMicro/status/1534537274829963264?t=C3gVziF5BICd4RzW1PexiA&s=19
These fucking journalists are really turning the retweet of a joke into a massive scandal going into its fourth day. These people are not serious.
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Apparently all women are bi, you just have figure out if it's sexual or polar. These women are showing they are polar.
Oh, they're way beyond bipolar
IDK. The joke kinda does lay out their course of action if they don't want bull dykes roofying their pink cosmos. And I'm sure not going to shed a tear for Weigel wading into a den of wolves and then tying a porkchop around his neck.
He laughed at (retweeted) a joke about women being nuts and boy they sure proved him wrong!
Broodling No. 2 was going to a football camp at a nearby religious college. When readying his equipment, he let out a blasphemous expletive. I told him he shouldn't say that at all, but especially in polite company. He replied, "What if the company isn't polite?" I replied, "Then you better know how to fight whether you utter the expletive or not."
Definitely some serious personality disorders involved.
I feel zero empathy for WaPo. They hired this pathetic shitweasel drama queen. Fuck 'em.
If I ran any media company, I'd say Twitter is barred. Remind them that "You will not get a job from Twitter, but you sure as hell can lose one because of it"
ENB will be banning you from the Reason comments board immediately for this type of heresy!
My chief complaint with all this is that none of these chicks are hot. You would think the non-fappables would stay in their lane and write stories about men who dump them
Chicks at the WaPo or in general? If you come across any evidence of Felicia Sonmez validating the "Why not both?" question Weigel begs, I'd be happy to take it off your hands for you.
Hey Peanuts do you remember how terrible everything was a year and a half into Trump's term? Remember how Putin just did whatever he wanted because he knew Trump was compromised by Russian blackmail? Remember how the economy completely fell apart like we liberal capitalists told you it would? Quite a contrast with Biden's first year and a half, which has been a success by every measure. Don't let wingnut.com tell you otherwise.
#TemporarilyFillingInForButtplug
Calling that sentence in this case "steep" is emblematic of what's wrong with Elizabeth Nolan Brown.
It's telling that he automatically assumed he would get parole
Perhaps he was reading about the Soros DA program.
I'm curious if you displayed the facts of the case to Americans and asked them how long of a sentence was justified what they would say.
I actually don't know. I'm pretty squishy when it comes to sentencing, but I wonder if many people would agree with ENB's statement there. At the very least, sentences like that for violent crimes are not emblematic of issues with criminal justice. That's more, non-violent crimes and things like Asset Forfeiture.
Depends a lot who you ask. Effete white leftists who live in security buildings or gated communities with armed guards who haven't seen a black person since their great-great-grandad bought one would say it's excessively harsh. People who live in shithole communities where they get robbed fairly routinely, and where that robbery constitutes a loss of nearly everything they own since they can barely afford their material possessions, let alone to insure them against the routine occurrence of robbery would probably say "fry the son of a bitch!"
Pretty much this.
On a twist of Upton Sinclair, it's very easy to believe some idealistic BS when it has no chance of affecting your material life.
Thus the progressive contradiction, that although progressives commonly support radical policies, most are not themselves radical. They put those stupid signs in their yards and their pronouns in their bios and that's as far as they expect it to go. It's radicalism for thee but not for me.
I wonder if progressives (or at least prog posers) invert the political order claimed by Nassim Taleb:
Libertarian at the national level
Republican at the state level
Democratic at the local level
Socialist at the family level
Change libertarian to libertine, you know, because of all the kiddie grooming, and I think you’ve got something.
I definitely think they swap the first and last items in that list.
I would disagree along different lines as well; they may agree that *a* burglar shouldn't get 20 yrs. but after watching ENB side with one burglar for getting 20 yrs., side with an armed burglar for getting 20 yrs., describe and armed teen running at officers as "unarmed and fleeing", defend a schizophrenic mother for drowning her 3 yr. old son, defend a serial rapist of infirm old ladies, defend a pedophile because he was obese, etc., etc., etc. they might get the impression that they don't agree with ENB.
I think non-violent first offenses deserve little more than a weekend in the pillory. Violent first time offenders? Anywhere from a week to life, depending on the crime. But violent repeat offenders? Double their last sentence. They obviously didn't learn squat.
But the real problem is that prison doesn't reform them. Teaches only better criminal skills, no employable skills, doesn't encourage sociable behavior but does encourage anti-social behavior. And when they are released, no one will hire them, because they are criminals.
If one were to judge by prison alone, one would assume no prisoner is ever expected to be released back into society. The custodial industry is really fucked up.
Bring back banishment.
Northern Canada is remarkably empty.
Lots of brown bears
Good thing, because all the polar bears are dead.
Can we wall off California and just make that an open-air prison?
Escape from Bakersfield.
I figure if we banished most convicts from the US in general, leftist cities would proclaim sanctuary status, and the sequestering of deviants in many urban shit holes would be reinforced. The elites would have to trade off walking to the art museum with robbery and assault.
You just described sf and Portland and seattle
I'm a fan of banishment for habitual offenders. They've demonstrated that they have no regard for other people's rights and they're not fit to live in society anymore.
Going to say the same. 22 years for armed robbery in someones home seems good to me. ENBs dumbass takes countinue apace.
#libertariansforhurtingpeopleandtakingtheirstuff
It's better for him than getting his head blown off, not so much for the taxpayers who have to pay for his prison term.
Agreed. Most libertarians would have no problem with a Castle Doctrine death penalty.
#ThatsOtherPeople
Yeah, that was the comment that made me stop reading and jump immediately to the comments. You broke into someone's home and held them up with a gun and stole from them. You're making it so people can't be secure in their own homes. You deserve a long time in jail, especially if you're a repeat offender.
I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again: The only property rights Reason really cares about are Big Tech’s property.
And, for ENB, renting out your snatch.
ENB and Reason editors don't seem to concerned about strict penalties for J6 protestors. Non-violent, unarmed trespassing = no bail and multi-year prison terms. Violent, armed robbery = mostly peaceful crime; why not parole?
"Calling judge a "racist ass bitch" doesn't justify six more years in prison, says Ohio's high court."
But it might qualify you for political office or a TV talk show host position.
"The paper also explores how these newspapers sought to frame gun control, and found that they did a very poor job explaining how it has multiple functions, often choosing to focus on one framing — rather than a more accurate framing of how gun control is structured to encourage multiple things,"
"The paper also explores how these newspapers sought to frame domestic spying, and found that they did a very poor job explaining how it has multiple functions, often choosing to focus on one framing — rather than a more accurate framing of how domestic spying is structured to encourage multiple things,"
"The paper also explores how these newspapers sought to frame lockdowns, and found that they did a very poor job explaining how they have multiple functions, often choosing to focus on one framing — rather than a more accurate framing of how lockdowns are structured to encourage multiple things,"
Section 230: "Protection For 'Good Samaritan' Blocking and Screening of Offensive Material"
Framing: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
Go ahead, tell me I'm framing S230 negatively.
Establishment whores aren't super-big on the constitution lately.
"Major papers' coverage of Section 230 is overwhelmingly negative, according to a master's thesis from University of North Carolina journalism student Kathryn Alexandria Johnson."
In another publication in the Journal of Obvious Shit, researchers reported that 99% of "news" served up by media is negative. Digging deeper, they found most publishers agreed with the statement, "People pay money to get scared and angry. We are only giving readers what they want."
Master's in Journalism?
English Masters too difficult for Kathryn?
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/pro-abortion-terrorists-firebomb-buffalo-pro-life-pregnancy-center/
Well we can't have people out there trying to help single pregnant women in crisis out of the goodness of their hearts if they are going to help the woman decide to keep the baby!
All these babies need to go! dont you see.
If it ends just one life!
As we all know I'm secretly a communist or something, and as such I'm glad to see abortion protesters hitting pro-life, radically conservative enclaves such as... Buffalo?
https://twitter.com/DevlinBarrett/status/1534539238494154753?t=CrGJ1e1yaLndALQ9xtXjPA&s=19
BREAKING: California man taken into custody near Justice Kavanaugh’s home with weapon
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I'm sure he's a sane normal person.
https://twitter.com/karol/status/1534538298458357763?t=V7ulgGMuPdRbCrUlrgOXjA&s=19
Breaking: A man was arrested outside of Brett Kavanaugh's residence around 1:45am last night. The man had a gun and said he was there to kill Kavanaugh. He was taken into custody without incident.
I can confirm the man taken into custody outside of Brett Kavanaugh's house last night is a 26 year old white male with a California driver's license. Previous address in Seattle.
Just the Seattle to California to DC pathway is indicative of a dangerous individual.
Will his sentence exceed or match any 1/6 protester?
Sentence? I doubt an NGO will even have to spend a dime bailing him out.
He’s already got a gig lined up with MSNBC.
Haha! He's already got a book deal lined up.
How much time did the guy who attacked Rand Paul get? What about the guy who tried to murder all those republicans while they were playing softball?
"white male with a California driver's license. Previous address in Seattle."
Sounds like a racist, disenfranchised insurrectionist to me. Give him 20 years in the gulag!
He’s a far left democrat. His residency in CA and Seattle are proof.
A hero of the Resistance (TM)!
Pro-Abortionists Firebomb Buffalo Pro-Life Pregnancy Center
Stopping Literally Handmaids Tale one arson at a time.
If you told someone in 1950 that in 2020 pro-babykillers would firebomb a maternity center for not being pro-baby killing, they wouldn't believe you.
Progress!
If you told it someone in 2000 they still wouldn't believe you.
You might even be able to push that up to late 2015.
It’s time to end the democrat party.
Peaceful protester!!
Or is it crossing state lines! I can never keep the NPC firmware up to date
As we all know, I'm a fucking idiot. So, the first thought I had when reading that was "Kavanaugh lives in California?"
We must find out who said the things that inspired this man and arrest them for sedition and insurrection against our democracy.
Better yet, he should have been shot in the face by the responding officers. cytotoxic (dba chemjeff, de oppresso liber) and sarcasmic (dba sqrsly one) have assured us that summary execution is an appropriate remedy for trespass.
I’m pretty sure none of this would have happened if not for the leftist justices on the Supreme Court who betrayed their institution and violated their oath.
Arrest and impeachment seem only proper.
It's fun to pretend we still have a working judicial and legislative system, isn't it?
TarVeLeD aCrOsS sTaTe LiNeS!!!!!!
The biggest and most pleasant surprise in this repulsive incident is that the police were actually able to stop him
A fact which no doubt has Mango, Park Slope Welchie Boy, Goth Fonzie Woppo, Lizzie the Lezzie, etc bummed out to the point of being in tears
That description of the editorial staff is the funniest thing I have read this week
"A mortality gap between Republican and Democratic counties has emerged. Using data from 2001 to 2019 that covers more than 3,000 counties, Brigham and Women's Hospital researchers found that mortality rates in Democratic-voting counties dropped 22 percent over this period but only down 11 percent in Republican-voting counties."
I am thinking, just off the top of my head, given that rural counties, even in blue states, are more likely to be home to considerably more R than D, and the population is also older, that age and the much higher rate of suicide typical in rural counties can amount for most or all of the difference.
It can also take longer to reach a hospital from the boondocks, which would also increase the chance of death of those residents in a medical emergency, either health-related or accident-related.
Yeah, though as stated above, it's also hard because they measured a drop without stating the starting level.
So, it could be 22% drop in 10-per-100,000 for Dems, and a 11% drop in 100-per-100,000 for Republicans or something.
Though, I think age and opioid usage probably does account for most of it like you said. It's kind of a weird stat if you think about it though. Like, the mortality rate of humans is 100% over a lifetime. So, the stats are kind of weird and basically asking which county someone was in when they died. It feels like one of those stats that are so vague as to be built to lead to conjecture.
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Time for another poll, of Democrats who claim to stand for compassion and caring. When told of this mortality gap, how many responded (A) "Those poor people. We should do something", or (B) "Serves those fucking rednecks right!"
https://twitter.com/The_Real_Fly/status/1534384975440748545?t=h5sueeVxwNX6TNS8u_zEGg&s=19
All charges have reportedly been dropped against Paul Pelosi for his DUI crash ***
I am shocked....SHOCKED...that a powerful person got no charges.
It was a mostly peaceful crash that did not threaten democracy.
Funny, there is plenty of red meat on Twitter but ENB never finds this stuff to share on Reason links. I wonder why...
This is getting memory holed.
They can, however, subtract from a sentence by allowing a defendant to withdraw their plea and replace it with a lesser charge because they are political allies, right cunt?
"The case involves Lake County Common Pleas Court Judge Eugene Lucci and defendant Manson Bryant, whom a jury convicted of aggravated burglary and aggravated robbery for participating in a group effort to rob a man in his home at gunpoint.
"Lucci initially ruled that Bryant should spend 22 years in prison for his crimes—an already steep sentence that seems somewhat emblematic of what's wrong with criminal justice in this country. (The judge imposed a 12-year sentence on his co-defendant, but gave Bryant more based on the fact that he had prior criminal convictions.)"
WTF? Has ENB gone full-on Soros liberal? Just how the fuck is putting someone in prison for 22 year NOT appropriate for someone with prior convictions who breaks into a home and robs a person at gun point? WTF are we supposed to do with a person who does that?
I'm open to it. Especially because we know that most folks once they make it past their early 30s just stop being a huge danger to others. I think there is some case to be made, though probably more importantly a case to be made for how we treat inmates once they're actually in prison.
That said, it ain't emblematic. There's a lot of non-violent offensives that are emblematic of justice reform. As are things like prison rape, which is atrociously frequent. If you took a survey of Americans though and asked them what they thought the appropriate sentence for that man was though, I wouldn't be surprised if the average approached 22 years.
Or whatever sentence you like, followed by permanent banishment.
Came here to say that. He obviously isn't reformed, heavier sentences for each subsequent conviction only makes sense.
https://thefederalist.com/2022/06/08/sponsor-of-j6-show-trial-watch-party-demanded-soft-treatment-for-lawyers-who-firebombed-nypd-car/
""We have, for the first time in 40 years, strong wage growth at the bottom leading to lower wage inequality," points out Arindrajit Dube, an economics professor at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst"
That's why people in the bottom quartile have been much, much worse off that they were 40 years ago (not accounting for health care, housing, percent of families with things like air conditioning, cars, home entertainment, personal technology, etc.).
"A mortality gap between Republican and Democratic counties has emerged. Using data from 2001 to 2019 that covers more than 3,000 counties, Brigham and Women's Hospital researchers found that mortality rates in Democratic-voting counties dropped 22 percent over this period but only down 11 percent in Republican-voting counties."
Now do the difference in average life spans between men and women, and find out how many women would trade 10% higher pay for 5 years less life.
He's just the meat shield they're using to establish this hell as the status quo
https://twitter.com/ChrisHartline/status/1534548886374825985?t=oLJf1-FDD8E6wQ7ThCxQOQ&s=19
It appears the White House's "the economy is actually good, you dumbass voters" strategy is going swimmingly.
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"It's a great economy, stupid!"
"...Arizona cops who watched a man drown have been placed on leave,.."
And the cop who shot the unarmed protester?
The cops who milled around as some deranged thug killed more than 20 people?
I still am amazed that they expect cops to kill themselves trying to save somebody they repeatedly told to not jump into the water and who refused the assistance provided.
And discipline those cops and not the others.
They approve of one of those actions and not the other.
Though in this case, it is non-disciplinary paid leave. So, it sounds more like something to get them out of the way while an investigation takes place. Honestly, with the current situation keeping them on the streets is probably courting something bad.
I'll wait for more information (or more than likely, just forget about this), but it looked within reason from what I saw.
There's a lot of really flagrant police abuses, and I think Reason should be more careful about highlighting cases that are actually pretty borderline.
There are 2 sides to understanding how the holocaust happened.
The side everyone focuses on is the question of how so many Germans could go along with it.
More and more, especially since covid implementation, are beginning to see the same mass psychological forces at work now.
But the other question, the one rarely considered- how could so many people resign themselves to execution and obediently march to sure death?
Well, that's what we're doing these days.
If death is certain, why didn't they at least go down fighting?
If Joe Biden said killing white conservative males would end the Covid pandemic, I am sure 99% of urban liberals would of allowed it.
Because guns are icky, and those few who disagreed willingly turned theirs in when the authorities took them because "public safety."
"...Especially because we know that most folks once they make it past their early 30s just stop being a huge danger to others..."
Is this true of career criminals, IOWs repeat offenders?
Wrong place; oh, for an edit feature...
Last I looked it varied a lot based on type of crime with recidivism for violent crime actually being low. Things like theft, property crime, sexual crimes have worse recidivism out of prison. But I don't have stats for me right now.
It kind of makes sense to some extent though, most organized theft (so, not just like shoplifting on the more common scale where it's a thing done in the moment) is actually done for long term gains and has a system in place to plan it out. It's actually not that common to have murder-for-hire or loan sharks breaking someones legs. It's gang violence and crimes of passion which tend to be a young man's game, before they mature enough to think things through. The most dangerous person, on average, is a 19 year old male.
But it's why I'm for reform discussion. I don't have the answer to it, and I certainly don't want it federal. I like that judges have some discretion for each case, and I don't like minimum mandatories. Probably the biggest thing we could do to improve things is look at the prisons themselves though. I don't really believe only, or even mostly, in the idea that prisons exist to Reform people. I think retributive Justice being done does matter.
But I also think treating prisoners with humanity and seeing if they can be improved in some way is also Justice done. At the very least, the current gang system in prisons is practically not good for our nation.
So, rambling response on my part. Hope it made some sort of sense. My thoughts on this extended subject are a bit unclear because I don't talk about it much.
Wages at the bottom have grown much more than at the top in the past 2 years.
Wow! You mean all those people who earned nothing during the pandemic are making more now?
Yeah, but they have to put on pants, and sometimes spend hours doing stuff they would rather not do. So, VERY unfair.
Stats obviously left out the orphans toiling in monocle factories.
Anyone heard anything about the Supreme Court leaker? No leads or anything? Nothing?
Damn that was flushed pretty quick.
How many people had access? Let's say it is 10. Do you waterboard them or what? Things aren't always as easy to solve as the genius good guy hacker in the spy thriller makes them out to be.
Looks like about 250 current staffers, all of whom likely would have access to the drafts.
I heard one person suggest that, since they are actually unlikely to discover who did it, it's incredibly difficult to do so, that they should actually just fire every single staffer. Which I think has some validity. It's a serious offense.
Here's one of the more recent articles I've seen about it though:
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/supreme-court-clerks-face-investigation-of-cellphone-data/
Investigations are slow though, and they are hard. I will be curious to see the outcome and see what if any reforms the court will impost after this. It's not actually clear that any crime was committed, but it's a serious breach of decorum which matters. It matters a lot.
Reason doesn’t think it matters.
Reason is waiting to be told what to tell us.
"Criminal defendants have a right to curse at judges without getting years tacked on to their prison sentences. That seems like it shouldn't be controversial,
Do we really, though?
I mean, curse at a judge - or do anything a judge doesn't like - and get hit with a contempt charge and jailed indefinitely is already a thing.
While I do not think it should be a thing, it is, and how is this really different?
It seems more like there's a question of when can a judge change his sentence. Maybe at the point of sentencing it was already entered in formally. I don't know though.
It seems clear to me that if the defendant had pulled that beforehand and the judge included that in his sentencing before the sentencing hearing that this would have been declared legal.
I don't know the rules though. ENB is ambiguous in her writing when she says " the Supreme Court has now reinstated the original 22-year sentence." That is the Ohio Supreme Court, not the US Supreme Court. I have no idea what the rules they have are, or what the consequence of this ruling are for jurisprudence in Ohio.
How Africa and Brazil just saved all our asses from a globalist dictatorship.
Remember to hug a Namibian today. If you don't know a Namibian a Botswanan will do. You can also hug a Brazilian but keep your hands above the equator.
"THE alarming move towards a World Pandemic Treaty, effectively giving the UN’s World Health Organisation power over sovereign nations in health emergencies, has received a stunning knockback.
Significantly, the blow was dealt by mainly poorer and developing countries, including many in the Third World, who rebelled against the richest nations rushing through rules that would rob them of a say on what would happen on their own soil.
The blow to the... globalist health agenda came in Geneva at the World Health Assembly, the decision-making body of the WHO, where its 194 member states formulate policy.
The Biden administration had proposed amendments to the International Health Regulations which would ease the way towards greater WHO powers such as those that would be incorporated in a treaty. Delegates from the UK, EU, Canada and Australia supported the changes.
But, as reported by James Roguski many countries, including a tranche of African nations, along with Bangladesh, Russia, India, China, South Africa and Iran, objected to being railroaded. Brazil even threatened to leave the WHO if the measures went through."
Here's the Substack journalism, because CNN sure that as hell won't be reporting on it:
https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/we-won?s=r
I like Africa. I like Africans.
Racist
Goddam poors. Why can't the just get in line behind their betters and do what they're told?
If I’m hugging a Brazilian I’m grabbing some of that ass.
Wage inequality gap shrinks. "We have, for the first time in 40 years, strong wage growth at the bottom leading to lower wage inequality," points out Arindrajit Dube, an economics professor at the University of Massachusetts
Oh, my bad, you're right. The economy is awesome.
An armed man was detained by authorities outside of Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh's home and told officers he wanted to kill the conservative jurist,
Will the left wingers who smear the right with every violent event admit their responsibility for fomenting hate such that their acolytes are ready to commit murder?
Just kidding, we know standards don't apply to the left.
Had me going for a second there though.
CLEARLY, we need MOR gun laws. That's the take-away!
I'm confused at the idea that 22 years for a repeat offender participating in an armed home invasion is "emblematic of what's wrong with criminal justice in this country."
ENB is a left wing idiot. Does that clear it up?
Good! Section 230 is a crony capitalist handout.
If you are going to exempt online service providers from liability, you need to rewrite Section 230 to make it clear that they need to act similar to common carriers. Editorial control is incompatible with exemption from liability.
Why not exempt every publication from liability, regardless of the breadth of its editorial scope?
As a licensed attorney (primarily civil practice) and decades long Libertarian, this article is largely opinion based on ignorance. As part of his sentencing this defendant exhibited contempt for the law, the court, the victim, and the rest of his fellow citizens in Ohio. Bifurcating that into a separate contempt citation is bad law. This criminal asked for six more years and society needs to be protected for those six additional years. Ms. Nolan Brown and this career criminal advocate for anarchy over the rule of law. This should not be controversial.
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