Samuel Alito Thinks It's Obviously Absurd To Suggest That Drug Prohibition Violates the Constitution
The justice overlooks the long American tradition of pharmacological freedom and the dubious constitutional basis for federal bans.

Justice Samuel Alito's draft majority opinion overturning the Supreme Court's abortion precedents touches on drug legalization in a way that raises interesting issues regarding the government's authority to forbid the consumption of certain intoxicants. "Attempts to justify abortion through appeals to a broader right to autonomy and to define one's 'concept of existence' prove too much," Alito writes. "Those criteria, at a high level of generality, could license fundamental rights to illicit drug use, prostitution, and the like. None of these rights has any claim to being deeply rooted in history."
I am not so sure about that. It is true that courts have not been receptive to the argument that drug prohibition inherently violates fundamental rights. But if the test for whether a right is "deeply rooted in history" hinges largely on whether Americans were long accustomed to exercising it without government interference, the freedom to consume intoxicants seems like a more plausible candidate than the right to abortion. If Alito delved into the history of drug legislation, he would discover a long tradition of pharmacological freedom. And even if that record does not impress him, he should recognize that the federal government's authority to ban drugs is based on the sort of implausible, ahistorical constitutional interpretation that he condemns in the context of abortion.
Litigants "have made the argument that there is a fundamental right to use drugs," Northern Kentucky University law professor Alex Kreit told Marijuana Moment, but that claim stands little chance "outside of the context of medical uses." While "taking privacy/autonomy rights seriously could get you there," Ohio State University law professor Douglas Berman said, "such arguments have never gotten any traction in courts." He noted one partial exception: In 1975, the Alaska Supreme Court held that possessing small amounts of marijuana at home for personal use was protected by the state constitution's privacy clause.
Are courts right to dismiss the idea that the freedom to control what goes into your body is "deeply rooted in history"? The weight that Alito attaches to early abortion legislation suggests that claim is not as ridiculous as he thinks.
Alito starts with the premise that unenumerated rights protected by the 14th Amendment must be "deeply rooted in this Nation's history and tradition" and "implicit in the concept of ordered liberty." Given the long history of criminalizing abortion in the United States, he argues, it is clear that the right to abortion does not fall into that category. But if we take the same approach to drug prohibition, the historical analysis looks different.
In 1851, Maine became the first state to ban the production and sale of alcoholic beverages. By 1855, a dozen states had enacted similar laws. But "of the 13 states that had prohibition in 1855, only 5 remained dry in 1863," Paul Aaron and David Musto note in Alcohol and Public Policy: Beyond the Shadow of Prohibition.
"In many states," Richard Mendelson writes in From Demon to Darling: A Legal History of Wine in America, "the provisions were only minimally enforced, and public opinion evaporated as quickly as it formed. In the years leading up to the Civil War, the Maine Laws were amended or dismantled one by one. Some state laws, like Wisconsin's, were vetoed by the governor following passage by the legislature. Others were rejected at the polls by voters, as occurred in Illinois."
Alito cites "the unbroken tradition of prohibiting abortion on pain of criminal punishment," which he says "persisted from the earliest days of the common law until 1973." When the 14th Amendment was ratified in 1868, by contrast, alcohol prohibition was a recent experiment that was generally deemed a failure.
Did that experiment comport with the Founders' ideas about the proper role of government? "Was the government to prescribe to us our medicine and diet, our bodies would be in such keeping as our souls are now," Thomas Jefferson observed in Notes on the State of Virginia. While Jefferson, a wine connoisseur, was talking about freedom of religion, the comment suggests that he thought the very notion of such regulation was absurd.
Arguing against that sentiment in 1856, Henry Clubb, secretary of the Maine Law Statistical Society, defended the historical pedigree of his state's policy. "PROHIBITION has been recognized as a principle of law ever since laws have been known to exist," he wrote. "The very first law recorded is prohibitory, and it relates to human aliment."
Clubb was talking about God's command to Adam and Eve regarding "the tree of the knowledge of good and evil," whose fruits they were forbidden to eat. He conveniently overlooked the Bible's many positive references to wine and "strong drink."
More recent history likewise seemed inconsistent with Clubb's argument that alcohol prohibition was blessed by tradition. "The colonists brought with them from Europe a high regard for alcoholic beverages," Aaron and Musto note. "Distilled and fermented liquors were considered important and invigorating foods, whose restorative powers were a natural blessing. People in all regions and of all classes drank heavily."
That does not mean Americans were oblivious to the hazards of drinking. "Drunkenness was condemned and punished, but only as an abuse of a God-given gift," Aaron and Musto say. "Drink itself was not looked upon as culpable, any more than food deserved blame for the sin of gluttony."
That view would eventually be rejected by the temperance movement, which initially focused on moderation through moral suasion but ultimately settled on abstinence enforced by law. Dry activists came to view alcohol as inherently addictive, which meant that social pressure and self-control were inadequate responses to the problems caused by excessive drinking.
In addition to widespread protests, evasion, and enforcement difficulties, the Maine Laws faced legal challenges. "In 1856," Mendelson notes, "the New York Court of Appeals overturned that state's prohibitory law because it called for the forfeiture of liquors owned and lawfully possessed at the time the law was passed, thereby violating the state's constitutional guarantees that no person shall be deprived of property without due process of law and that private property shall not be taken for public use without just compensation. Indiana's version of the Maine Law was invalidated as an invasion of the right to private property because the state's supreme court found that the temperate use of alcoholic beverages—particularly beer, which was at issue in that case—was not harmful and the intemperate use is 'not the fault of the manufacturer or seller.'"
On the whole, then, the experience with the Maine Laws did not establish the sort of precedent that Alito thinks dooms any claim that abortion rights are "deeply rooted in history." And even as states experimented with alcohol prohibition, Americans were still free to buy and consume drugs such as opium, cocaine, and marijuana, which were common ingredients in patent medicines during the 19th century. "For the first 100 years of the nation, the right to use drugs was taken for granted," observes Dale Gieringer, who directs the California chapter of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws, in an email commenting on Alito's opinion.
That situation remained essentially unchanged until Congress passed the Harrison Narcotics Tax Act in 1914. Twenty-three years later, Congress approved the Marihuana Tax Act, which effectively banned cannabis at the national level. By that point, every state had already banned marijuana, beginning with California and Maine, which prohibited its use without a prescription in 1913.
National drug prohibition raised a new issue: Where did Congress get the authority to ban intoxicants, especially insofar as it criminalized intrastate conduct? Even Federal Bureau of Narcotics Commissioner Harry Anslinger, who encouraged states to ban marijuana, conceded that a national ban could not be justified based on the federal government's power to regulate interstate commerce.
"There are no Federal laws on the growth or use of marijuana, the plant being grown so easily that there is almost no interstate commerce in it," the Associated Press reported in 1931. According to the A.P., Anslinger "said the government under the Constitution cannot dictate what may be grown within individual States."
The solution to that problem was to frame prohibition as a revenue measure, the approach that Congress took with both the Harrison Narcotics Tax Act and the Marihuana Tax Act. National alcohol prohibition, by contrast, was authorized by the 18th Amendment. And unlike our current drug laws, it did not criminalize possession or consumption.
After the Supreme Court reinterpreted the Commerce Clause to accommodate pretty much anything Congress wanted to do, it became a license for national drug prohibition, which somehow no longer required invoking the taxing power or amending the Constitution. When Congress passed the Controlled Substances Act in 1970, for instance, it noted that "a major portion of the traffic in controlled substances flows through interstate and foreign commerce." It added that "local distribution and possession of controlled substances contribute to swelling the interstate traffic in such substances."
That logic culminated in Gonzales v. Raich, the 2005 case in which the Supreme Court said the power to regulate interstate commerce extended far enough to cover government-authorized medical marijuana that never crossed state lines or even left the grower's property. "If Congress can regulate this under the Commerce Clause," Justice Clarence Thomas observed in his dissent, "then it can regulate virtually anything—and the Federal Government is no longer one of limited and enumerated powers."
Based on the original understanding of the 14th Amendment, Alito says, it is clear that the Constitution does not protect a right to abortion. But the same sort of analysis tells us that the power to regulate interstate commerce does not authorize Congress to "dictate what may be grown within individual States," let alone criminalize mere possession of psychoactive substances that legislators do not like.
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What about sex work? There is a long tradition of sex work.
Alito is 50% on Reason’s core principles
He's the Jared Polis of Supreme Court justices.
Someone should ask Alito why someone, somewhere thought an amendment was required to prohibit alcohol.
Bingo.
This is the "elephant in the room" that most prohibitionists (of anything) always (intentionally) overlook: it was widely understood that the Federal Constitution provided NO authority to prohibit a historically common substance such as alcohol, thus the 18th Amendment was necessary for the do-gooders to do their evil.
But this is exactly like the abortion case: states can regulate it, but the federal government cannot ban it or prevent the states from banning or regulating it without a change in the constitution.
The Constitution provided no authority to the federal government to ban alcohol. States have always had the power to ban alcohol.
Word.
And why an amendment was needed to establish a federal income tax. I'm more interested in that one.
it has certainly caused more damage to liberty and prosperity and privacy.
The Sixteenth Amendment was adopted to empower Congress to tax investment income. Taxes on wages were justified as an excise tax.
Yes. Gonzales v. Raich needs to be trashed.
Not far enough. Raich follows from Wickard. That whole line of jurisprudence needs to be torn out, root and branch.
That was before they discovered that the Commerce Clause gives the federal government power limited only by the Bill of Rights.
Even if the government did have the authority to ban or regulate recreational drugs and their use, they still wouldn't be required to exercise that authority.
Well, it wasn't. It was required to federally prohibit alcohol.
Obviously there's no constitutionally recognized right to use drugs. But the federal government is a government of enumerated powers, the question is NOT whether the Constitution prohibits federal drug laws, but whether it PERMITS them.
The states are an entirely different animal, and could ban drugs. Shouldn't, of course, but there's no constitutional obstacle to their doing it.
Alito is in vehement agreement with you: he says that the Constitution doesn't grant the power to regulate abortions to the federal government, just like it didn't grant the power to regulate alcohol to the federal government.
That's why he is sending abortions back to the states.
So the 18th Amendment was required before Congress could ban alcohol, but no amendment at all is needed to ban other drugs? Are we sure he's still fit to serve?
"If a man's fortune or life are dependent on him not believing something, he won't."
His analogy is that there is no right to use drugs that states are not allowed to interfere in, just as there is no right to abortion.
the Raich decision was ridiculous.
As was Wickard v. Filburn which it was based on.
at the time, the president was an actual Stalinist. You get what you vote for people.
Alito is the Kagan of the right-side of the bench. He starts from his Conservative principles and then attempts to try to shoe-horn them into some sort of legal jurisprudence. Also like Kagan, he is just not a very intelligent person.
Scalia disagreed (about Kagan). [Not sure what he though about Alito]
Next to Sotomayor, Alito and Kagan are savants.
^ this is what happens every time you make a diversity hire, unfortunately.
KBJ and Kamaltoe are exhibits A and B.
Using such requirements is racist bigotry. Right, Brandon?
Her thoughts on COVID were just embarrassing.
This is just false. Sotomayor is a partisan hack. Kagan is a formalist. She is far more formalist than Alito ... on many non-hot button cases, she actually votes to the right of Alito because her formalism forces that.
The conservative position is that abortion is murder. I don't see Alito or any other conservative SCOTUS judge "shoe-horning" this into "some sort of legal jurisprudence". Doing so would require nothing more than treating a fetus legally as a human being (something that some laws already do).
So, no, Alito is most certainly not doing that. Alito is sending this issue to legislatures, knowing full well that half of them are going to enact laws that grossly violate his conservative principles and moral views.
But the same sort of analysis tells us that the power to regulate interstate commerce does not authorize Congress to "dictate what may be grown within individual States," let alone criminalize mere possession of psychoactive substances that legislators do not like.
Or, you know, you could read the words written in the Constitution and realize that interstate commerce means commerce that crosses state lines and nothing else.
means commerce that crosses state lines and nothing else.
I think not the actual goods. It was to prevent one state from erecting barriers to trade/travel between the states. Along with the weights and measures clauses and the money, and even so far as standards (rail gauges).
Yes, that is the original meaning of the Commerce Clause - to ensure a state would not set up any barriers to the other states' goods or favor its own goods over those of the others. The Necessary and Proper Clause was designed to allow Congress to pursue whatever means reasonably necessary to effectuate that end. Of course, we know that the NPC - coupled with the CC - has been bastardized to mean Congress can now pursue different ends with only a logically-strained connect to interstate commerce.
*connection
I'd go so far as to say that the ability to regulate interstate commerce should be restricted to the scope of managing and redressing the disparities between laws in states where commerce is flowing between them.
Like binding arbitration.
The problem with deciding which rights are "deeply rooted" is the same as determining what the rights "retained by the people" in the 9th amendment are. Just because there was no law against something doesn't mean the power to legislate against it didn't exist.
Yes, comrade.
IX. The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
'nuff said.
Which is why the proper thing to do on abortion is what Alito did: to stay out of it. Abortion is not a matter for SCOTUS or the federal government to decide.
So Alito isn't a natural rights kind of guy. His error is that there's only one human right, to be free from the initiatory use of force or what we call liberty. One man telling another what they can do with their own body is slavery.
Except for when babies are murdered, right?
No.
What "babies"??????
Babies don't exist? Is that what you are saying?
They identify as Democrats.
A zygote isn't a "baby".
And what do you know, no state is outlawing the abortion of zygotes.
Every state is outlawing post-birth killing of babies.
And somewhere between those two stages, different states want to draw the line, based on where different people believe that the zygote turns into an entity worthy of protection under the law.
The plurality of Americans (as well as Europeans) draws the line somewhere around the end of the first trimester.
Because surely [WE] mobs are so much more important in people's *PERSONAL* life's than a person's personal life itself.
Everyone gets to be the judge in Mrs. Jone's pregnancy.
My only positive note is Thank goodness I'll never be pregnant...
What/Who will be next on the [WE] mob's personal judgment board?
And contrary to what you know... Roe v Wade was a direct SCOTUS response to making aborting zygotes in Texas illegal by the State.
Alito isn't telling anybody what to do with their body. He is saying that there is no constitutional basis for Roe, and that hence this issue must be decided by legislatures.
Yeah, it's almost like Alito doesn't actually care about any of that, and only cares about pushing his agenda. You know, like every *other* conservative justice on the bench.
"...like every *other* conservative justice on the bench.
Of course lefty assholes like you are pure, right, steaming pile of lefty shit?
Busted, EE. Fuck off and die.
Farmers For Trump will have no criticism of conservatives here!
Of course, the left-leaning justices would never adapt their legal interpretations to a progressive political agenda. Heaven forbid. It's conservative jurists who believe the Constitution is a "living document."
Remember when sotomayor got caught citing MSNBC COVID propaganda numbers (that were obviously completely incorrect) in official arguments because her brain has been too pickled by partisan garbage to actually sort out what is true (that a quick google search of her own could have solved)?
Pepperidge Farms remembers.
Of all the stupid partisan shit you’ve posted here, this is one of them.
But ONLY the conservative justices. The left-leaning judges are pure originalists.
I, for one, appreciated the laugh this morning.
And that’s how FDR ruined this country.
Wilson - the 16th A
Authoritarian uses authoritarian reasoning. Quelle surprise.
Oh, my, the authoritarianism of saying "this matter should be resolved democratically by legislatures, as opposed to being decided by a bunch of unelected judges". That kind of "authoritarian reasoning". /sarc
If conservative SCOTUS justices were authoritarians, they would have posited a "right to life" for the fetus and banned abortion across the country. Such an argument would be legally far easier to make than pro-abortion arguments based on "privacy".
"Deeply rooted in history" is just such a classy dogwhistle.
Here the phrase "dog whistle" is doing all the work, allowing Tony to describe somebody as advocating a position at odds with what they actually proposed.
It's basically allowing him to misrepresent (lie) about their position. A common linguistic tic found in bad faith arguments.
And Tony knows quite a bit about bad faith arguments.
Tony is a text-book example of arguing in bad faith. It's all he ever does.
I too like to assign “dog whistle” to words I don’t like because it lets me take the day off from thinking.
Tony didn't just take the day off. He retired.
Or maybe Tony's admitting he's a dog and can hear things humans can't?
That checks out.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1mdEdDncBfk
Congratulations Jacob, you figured out why this was just a 1st draft opinion and will definitely be tweaked and watered down before final judgement is passed.
Now, could we get a half dozen or so articles on the things that the government is doing that actually affects people?
ROE V WADE
ROE V WADE
ROE V WADE
ROE V WADE
ROE V WADE
ROE V WADE
ROE V WADE
ROE V WADE
ministry of truth and environmental justice
Over/under on when they post an article about the Environmental Justice unit? I’m guessing Monday.
No way! Then people might talk about it. Next Friday afternoon.
I'm holding out for the ministry strippers.
Don't fall for it, it's a trick. Their job is to strip property from the people. They'll be the ones in charge of civil asset forfeiture.
I really would have been perfectly fine never having had an image of Al Jourgensen dressed like Kandy Kayne and working a pole in my head...
They'll undoubtedly be for it. Reason is the Communist wing of the libertarian movement
in fairness, they have to keep ENB happy by going all in on abortion or the number of sammiches made in the break room will drastically decrease.
Making people carry babies for nine months doesn't effect people!
Well, doesn't effect Farmers. They could use the field labor.
Farmers For Trump!
It *does* "effect" people, or bring them into existence.
It also affects, including the unborn, who are eliminated.
I wish everyone would wait until the opinion is actually released before writing increasingly frentic pieces ... everyone's first draft of things suck.
Say that to Zach Snyder!
Oh wait, ok, that was a bad example. Carry on.
Alito is gonna let the individual states decide whether child murder should be illegal (and make no mistake: it should be illegal in every state), and Reason is bitching about drugs.
You have to be born to be a child and it's not murder because a fetus isn't legally a person and has no rights.
Tell that to the powers that be when you die. Somehow, I don't believe that phrases like "It was the law" and "I was following orders" will allow you to rest at peace.
Humorously; You just made the best 'legal' argument for Pro-Choice.
It's not Gov-Guns territory to judge; It's 'Gods' territory.
And those who mistaken Gov-Guns as being their 'Gods' are also with sin.
I have absolutely no concerns about being judged in the afterlife and found wanting.
Your opinion is law now?
Apparently he/she/it is more than a mere clump of cells.
That's the opinion in Roe so yes it is law.
If someone were to kick a pregnant woman in the stomach and cause her to miscarry, they would be charged with murder. If a woman just decides she doesn't want her child and has an abortion, it's fine. So, the law is telling us that a fetus is only a person when they are wanted. What if no one wants IceTrey does that change your statis as human being?
That varies by state. A fetus isn't legally a person so it's not murder.
Dodge.
Once upon a time; Intent meant something in court.
I miss those days too.
Now it's all about "we're going to hang you" because you kicked that rock that little miss muffet tripped on and pushed jack and jill all the way down the hill....
Now whether or not that's the kind of justice system you want says more about you than anyone else.
No, but the US Code is:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/1/8
You have to be born to become a US citizen; after that, science that a 12 year old should understand takes over.
Well, see, it isn't.
There is a perfectly good argument against the Federal Government not being allowed to pass many, many laws, between the deliberately enumerated powers and the language of the 9th and 10th Amendments, including laws against drugs. And the article here makes them, sure.
But the context for the "deeply rooted in history" quoted here is incorporation of rights against the states by the 14th Amendment. It is incredibly clear that the 14th Amendment was not intended or understood to generally restrict the states in exercising the general police power. Simply demonstrating that something was not illegal prior to the 14th Amendment is accordingly vastly insufficient; you have to show that it was recognized as a right prior to the 14th Amendment.
I'm not a lawyer, so I may not have understood what you said. But did you just claim that amything not recognized as a right before the 14th Amendment isn't a right? The 9th Amendment has an end date at the beginning of the 14th? Or am I misunderstanding your point?
"There are no Federal laws on the growth or use of marijuana, the plant being grown so easily that there is almost no interstate commerce in it"
Oh, you thought "interstate commerce" meant interstate commerce? No no no no.
Supreme Court Justice Alito; praphrased....
"Everyone's personal reproduction process is property of the state."
"Everyone's personal body dug-intake is property of the feds."
"Just so long as those 'Gov-Guns' don't lose any power over the people................" /s
How will we protect our young women from the jazz musician menace if we don't prohibit reefer?
Young women have never liked jazz. No problem.
Marijuana use as a medicine is deeply rooted in the history of America as well as other cultures. Like the article says "the power to regulate interstate commerce does not authorize Congress to "dictate what may be grown within individual States," let alone criminalize mere possession of psychoactive substances that legislators do not like".
Alito is the kind of guy who would vote to outlaw alcohol, then vote to permit alcohol for people deluded by superstition, then drink the alcohol, then punish others for drinking alcohol without a superstitious angle, and never recognize what an authoritarian, gullible, pathetic jerk he is.
Fortunately, he -- like every clinger -- will be replaced by a better person as modern America continues to improve against the wishes and efforts of obsolete conservatives.
Open wider, hicklib. Your betters are replacing you and your ilk.
Another disaffected, vanquished, worthless culture war casualty predicts that the uneducated, bigoted clingers are going to diminish the tide of . . . no, pull even in . . . no, reverse the half-century tide of that culture war.
Stomping these right-wing losers into cultural and political irrelevance is a never-ending joy and privilege.
What's so funny about left-wingers???
They compulsively champion right-wing left overs... Ya know; Like Abraham Lincoln freeing the slaves (Republican) and Roe v Wade written by a (Republican) supreme court.
And simultaneously erase their own history by pulling down monuments that show that they were the slave owners and ones that stood in the way of civil rights. Cancel everything that had to do with slavery except for the democrat party that loved it so.
Read this if you have the guts and remember almost all of the states which passed recent anti-abortion laws DO NOT make exceptions for rape or incest.
"“If I had been allowed the option to choose a 'late-term abortion,' would I? Yes. A hundred times over, yes. It would have been a kindness. Zoe would not have had to endure so much pain in the briefness of her life.... Perhaps I could have been spared as well......
Look at that photo of me and my daughter and tell me you know better than I do.”
"I was raped when I was 17 years old. I had a baby when I was 18 years old. My baby died when I was 19 years old.
I cannot recall the color of the sky when I woke up the morning I was raped, or what I did in the hours leading up to the assault. I think of it in terms of Before and After, and I’m caught right in between the two.
Instead, I remember this: a boy from school who I thought was a friend. I invited him over to my house for a movie. His hand skimmed up my leg. When I asked him to stop, all he said was, “I don’t want to.” I thought if I got up it would diffuse the tension and surely he wouldn’t follow me in my own house. I went to the kitchen to get some water.
I remember this: Him pressing up behind me against the kitchen counter, knocking the breath out of me. His hand over my mouth that turned into a hand around my throat. The sound of a seam ripping, the ledge of the counter scraping my belly, my hands slipping against granite. Time stretching out in both directions. I struggled, tried to move away, and a miserable noise yanked out of my chest when that hand constricted until I began to pass out. I stopped fighting. Aside from one shattering bit, I went still. I was outside of myself, watching myself ― my body was bent over there and whatever was happening to it was happening without me....
I was an honor student in high school, a varsity cheerleader, and I sang in the show choir. I was another junior worried about her ACT scores. There were expectations I had set for myself ― an excess of possibilities I wanted to touch and explore. Within three months of the rape, my grades plummeted. I quit the cheerleader squad. I began getting sick and missing school. I lost weight. I was actively suicidal and making plans....
My mother went back with me for the ultrasound. I was so afraid to look up at the sonographer’s screen and be confronted with undeniable evidence.
“Do you want to know what it is?” the tech asked. I must have said yes, because she patted my arm and said, “It’s a girl.”
She went silent, right after. As she was scanning the head and taking measurements, her eyes grew dark. The tech cleaned off my stomach and asked us to follow her into a conference room. My mother fidgeted at my side. All I could do was stare at the chair across from me. We both knew then, I think, that something terrible was about to happen.
The doctor came to us and spread the ultrasound pictures across the table. She pointed to darkness where gray brain matter ought to be. She called it hydranencephaly, a congenital defect in which the brain fails to develop either cerebral hemisphere, instead filling with cerebrospinal fluid. The fetus continued to experience development because the brain stem was still intact, but she would be born blind, deaf, completely cognitively stunted, prone to seizures, diabetes insipidus, insomnia, hypothermia and more. The list of every agonizing disorder she would suffer was tremendous.
“This condition is not compatible with life,” she said with the sort of neutrality someone uses when they are a spectator to disaster.,,,,
My daughter was born Oct. 27, 2005. I named her Zoe Lily. I did not want to touch her at first, convinced I would cause her more pain. I was afraid she would die in my arms, afraid I would look at her and feel the same disgust I felt for myself. They took her away. The neurologist came and asked how we wanted to proceed. He asked if we wanted to intubate her because she lacked the instinct to suck and inquired about what other lifesaving measures we wanted to take. The most basic functions of her body were being controlled by her brainstem, but that was it. It would be a kindness, he explained, to make her comfortable and let her go in peace....
I remember curling in on myself in the maternity ward, 18 years old, retraumatized and flashing back to the attack, paralyzed by indecision. My milk came in, and I was furious ― it felt like a cruel joke. I could not imagine then how this would evolve over a year, how I could be so full of love for this child and also wish she had never been born.
We took Zoe home. We took her home knowing full well she would die there. For a year my family loved her.
We figured out how to feed her with a bottle by placing a finger under her chin, gently pushing upward until she bit down on the nipple to express milk. It took two hours for her to finish a bottle. We held her through countless sleepless nights because her body was unable to metabolize sleep hormones. She would lock up in tonic seizures, big blue eyes jerking to one side. She would go stiff lying beside me, and I would gather her in my arms, my nose in her hair, trying to memorize the soft smell of her. Sometimes I hoped she would go still, that her heart would stop, so that she would be free from suffering. I begged for it and dreaded it in equal measure.
We wrapped her in electric blankets in the middle of the Alabama summer because she couldn’t regulate her own temperature. We spent every major holiday in the hospital that year. On Thanksgiving, her lips were turning blue and she stopped eating because she had developed a kidney infection. She nearly died from the antibiotics....
On Christmas, we watched as she was stuck over and over again for IV placements and her veins blew one by one. She was put on Zantac, anti-diuretics, Synthroid, Klonopin, lorazepam, melatonin, Miralax. She was diagnosed with diabetes insipidus. We strung up red stockings at the foot of her hospital bed and listened to the chime of her heart monitor....
Unlike the day of my attack, I remember the day Zoe died with brutal clarity....
Nothing can prepare you for losing a child, even when you know it is coming. My best friend walked through the door of my family home. “We need to go to the hospital. Zoe just died.” I crumpled to the floor. It seemed like the only thing to do. I laid there sobbing, and just as it was during my assault, I was no longer in my body. I fixated on a dead moth on a window sill. The sun beat down on me through the glass.
Her heart had stopped. She died in my stepfather’s arms. I could not bring myself to look at her in death. I, too, felt like a husk.
At home we put all her things out of sight. I held her pajamas in my hands and felt such emptiness. I just wanted to slip socks over her tiny feet one more time, kiss her hands. We buried her with the blankets she could never be separated from. I wanted to lie down beside her. I wanted it all to be over. How was I meant to keep going? It was like a black hole opened up at the middle of me, sucking in and shredding all the pieces that were once good and tender, until there was nothing left of the person I was. Nothing at all.
The grief is consuming even now, and although it has no teeth or jaws, it still swallows me whole. It has derailed me countless times over the 12 years since her death. I am in bits. A part of me is still there wiping blood from white tile. I am a dead moth on the window sill. I am buried under so much dirt. And I am here in these words. I am immense....
I have three daughters now, and I love them with the sort of ferocity that can choke me sometimes. But I would be lying if I said I do not also grieve what was taken from me. I grieve the person I might have become if had not been a young victim, a young mother, forced into unimaginable circumstance, seeded by compounding traumas. Did that girl not also deserve mercy? Was her life any less important?
It should not have been this way.
If I had been allowed the option to choose a “late-term abortion,” would I?
Yes. A hundred times over, yes. It would have been a kindness. Zoe would not have had to endure so much pain in the briefness of her life. Her heart could have been stopped when she was warm and safe inside me, and she would have been spared all that came after.
Perhaps I could have been spared as well....."
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/late-term-abortion-rape_n_5c630b8de4b0a8731aeabbd6
The actual state law (MS) that is in front of SCOTUS allows abortions up to 15 weeks.
15 weeks is enough time to take care of that situation. Keep making stuff up.
read the article wreckinball. No. "late term abortions" were not allowed in Alabama then or now and her babies condition was not diagnosed until she was 8 months pregnant, which is not unusual for those kind of problems. My wife was a NP in obstetrics who did genetic counseling with older couples who have problems like this baby's more commonly.
It is anticipated as well as claimed by leaders in those states led by Republicans that a total ban will follow.
Go play in traffic.
Anyone seen the south park episode with captain hindsight. I think his alter ego might be Joe Friday.
Were they just too stupid to drive to another state?
Democrats need to whip their base into hysterical braying to improve their chances of not being slaughtered in November. These cretins accuse pro-lifers of being culture-war, single-issue-voter fanatics, yet they will vote to keep Dems in power - who have wrecked the economy and keep beating the war drums with Russia - because there's a distinct possibility states that they don't live in, that they hate, and that they would never visit will outlaw abortion.
You're clearly not worth it See Double, but it should be noted that you overlook the fact that millions of Democrats live in places like Texas and Mississippi and millions of innocent people of all parties will be victimized by this ignorant legislation. As to the economy, inflation and high gas prices are international events and the GOP with Trump's backing (and encouragement on the 2021 bill) also voted for Covid expenditures contributing to the economies problems. As to Russia, no one in either party is beating war drums, but the consensus across parties is to support Ukraine's resistance. Fortunately Biden has organized world leaders to join in and spelled out for Xi the consequences of his possibly aiding Russia militarily. So far China has not gone that way.
"As to the economy, inflation and high gas prices are international events and the GOP with Trump's backing (and encouragement on the 2021 bill)"
but, but, but..... Never-mind that VERY legislation was written, pitched (87% of it) and pushed by Democrats.
"It's Republicans fault for not stopping us Leftards!!!" /s
The same Leftards compulsively building a Nazi(National Socialist)-Regime to take over the USA.
TJJ, the GOP controlled the Senate and Presidency in 2020 when most of these bills passed and trump was a vocal proponent of them, including the early 2021 when he wanted a bigger check written to Americans ($2000) then what was passed. Your eagerness to pretend thi never happened is understandable but facts are facts. Please not the huge tax cut for corporations which did not perform as promised (reinvestment almost non-existent and the economic surge promised lasted one year) and which was Republican bill.
"facts are facts" -- The Cares Act was 87% WRITTEN by Democrats.
So what if Trump was a vocal proponent?? Didn't stop the Democrats from *ALSO* being vocal proponents and the very evil 'masterminds' behind it all.
Sure; You can credit Republicans for letting people KEEP their earnings... And you can BLAME Democrats for constantly wanting to commit ARMED Gov-Gun THEFT on their citizens.... I find it quite humorous you're propping up CRIMES against the people.
Maybe when Democrats stop being armed-criminals they won't be acknowledged as such.
TJJ you idiot. You are just making shit up:
"Early in the morning of Wednesday March 25, Senate leaders announced they had come to an agreement on a modified version of the CARES Act,[115] the full text of which exceeds 300 pages.[116] Mitch McConnell "announced news of a breakthrough on the Senate floor shortly after 1:30 a.m. Wednesday".[115]
Senator McConnell said on the floor, "[we have] reached a bipartisan agreement on a historic relief package for this pandemic ... this is a wartime level of investment for our nation."[117] McConnell continued the analogy to war by saying the CARES Act would provide "ammunition" to health care workers who are the "frontline heroes who put themselves at risk to care for patients" by providing them "the ammunition they need".[11
Late in the night of March 25, 2020, the Senate passed the $2 trillion bill in a unanimous 96–0 vote. Four Republicans did not vote, namely John Thune, who was "feeling ill", Rand Paul (who had tested positive for COVID-19), and Mitt Romney and Mike Lee, who were both in isolation after having had contact with Senator Paul.[10]
The House passed the bill on March 27 by a near-unanimous, unrecorded voice vote.[128][129][130]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CARES_Act#Legislative_history
So you've completely demonstrated that NOT A SINGLE Democrat opposed the bill. And guess which party THWARTED the House bill vote??? That's right... A Democrat. I said it perfectly spot on....
"It's Republicans fault for not stopping us Leftards!!!"
TJJ, I never said Democrats didn't vote for the covid relief bills. I pointed out that Republicans did as well, so pretending the fall out from that spending in the form of inflation is on the democrats is just ignorant.
It's FAR MORE (as-in 87%) on Democrats than Republicans.
TJJ, I posted the information with details that the Care act passed both houses in near unanimous votes. It was cheered on and signed by Trump.
And Pitched and Written by 87% Democrats.
Who's really the most to blame? The criminal that initiates the theft or the persons who doesn't stop it? Blame both? Yes.. Pretend the criminal that initiates it isn't any more responsible than those who didn't stop it? No...
Biden organized world leaders? Or was he dreaming that he did that when he fell asleep? Joe Biden couldn't organize his sock drawer.
Sure Smack, the pre-invasion organization of western states on military supplies and economic sanctions, including intelligence services, and the long talk with Xi, all happened while Biden was asleep. I guess he was asleep when he kicked Donnie Fatso's unphotogenic ass in those 2 debates too - as shown by both polling and expert analysis.
Unlike Donnie, Biden knows the world, knows the players, and doesn't need to make everything about himself. The other leaders aren't laughing at him after he passes the table, like the world-class embarrassment who preceded him. That's the only thing Donnie is world class at.
Biden knows how to line his pockets. And your "experts" are just partisan hacks. Some of these so called "experts" said that Trump did great in the second debate so that is just a matter of opinion. If Biden knows the players so well and is so respected, then why is OPEC ignoring him? Why is North Korea firing missiles again? Why did Russia not invade when Trump was in office, but waited for a weak president to take his place? What the fuck happened with the withdrawal from Afghanistan, leaving billions of dollars' worth of military hardware behind to arm our enemies? If there was a "pre-invasion organization" of military supplies, then why are we sending package after package of military hardware? If Joey's sanctions are so great, then why didn't they have any effect?
Now I will be the first to say that I think that Trump is a jerk as a human being, but his policies seemed to work a lot better than the current administration.
When will you man up and quit playing for team democrat and start playing for team U.S.A.?
Smack -
- Prove Biden lined his pockets. He files income taxes which are public.
- OPEC is and never will be a democracy and is pissed because unlike Trump and Jared, Biden won't pretend their leader didn't murder a US resident.
- NK fired missile under all our presidents and even after Trump gave him a hand job in public on their "date".
- Fiona Hill - NSA Russia expert under 3 presidents - says Putin would have invaded the Ukraine with or without Trump in office, but supposing she is wrong, Trump was helping Putin eliminate NATO and the EU, backed him up on murdering people in Europe, and falsely denied he helped him in the 2016 election (the GOP led Senate Intel Comm Report on the election says Putin and Trump personally knew and advocated for that help). He's a traitor.
- We got out of Afghanistan. You don't lose wars - Biden advocated we get out 10 years ago - and make it look pretty. Biden had the balls, Trump didn't.
- So, because Biden didn't know with certainty if Putin would be stupid enough to invade and thus blow up his own country, including it's fragile economic situation, but did organize our response and that of our allies - not an easy task until Putin acted - he fucked up? Yeah, sure Zippy.
- As known from day 1 , economic sanctions will take time and will get worse and worse. Russia already does not have the money to replace the weaponry they've had destroyed in the last 2 months.
- Trump's "policies" was "What makes Donald Trump look good and how can I be on the news all the time?" That is, if he was paying attention. He can't cut a deal to save his life or his businesses unless it involves blackmail.
It must be nice to live in your distorted world view, but if it makes you happy being Bidens cock holster then by all means.....Suck away.
We will see who the big guy is in time. OPEC still does not respect your pres. N.K. stopped firing missiles out of fear. Still living the Trump collusion story? DEBUNKED you dope. I don't have a problem with leaving Afghanistan, it was totally inept way in which it was done and you know that so stop trying to twist the argument you petulant child. Russia didn't invade during Trumps term because he warned Putin "If you don't embarrass me I won't embarrass you" I believe was the phrase. Economic sanctions will not effect Russia as deeply as you may think, since Putin has worked out trade deals with China and Iran. How do you enforce trade sanctions on a country that has a trade deal with another country that makes damn near everything?
Wrecked the economy?
The economy's recovery is strong.
Personal incomes are rising (wages increasing), unemployment rates are stellar, and jobs are being created at nearly a record rate. Essentially anyone who wants a job can have a job.
Interest rates are rising, as they should (within reason).
Investors have done remarkably well for an extended period.
The gross domestic product trends are solid (2021 was the best year in roughly four decades in this regard).
Rising prices are within reason a signal of strong demand and an ability to afford those prices.
The American economic outlook is good for 2022 and 2023.
Disaffected slack-jaws may see it differently.
Just never-mind the ever-growing destruction of the USD..
"Hey man; I'll give you 2-pennys for your 1-dollar dude...."
UR pretty gullible aren't you?
You figure authoritarian, superstition-deluded, bitter right-wingers will stop at anything short of an abortion prohibition?
Whether you are that stupid or that deceptive doesn't matter. Either way, you are a worthless stain and drain on modern America. Thank goodness you and everyone like you will be replaced -- by your betters -- in the normal course of America's liberal-libertarian progress.
Carry on, you slack-jawed bigot.
*But the replacement didn't happen, and the Hicklib died alone in his urine-stained wheelchair while shouting "SLACK-JAW" and "BIGOT" within an empty room, as though he never existed. The end.*
The replacement has been improving America for decades and is positioned to continue to improve America.
Yeah, 574 riots sure made the world a better place. Teaching indoctrination in schools instead of reading, Writing, and arithmetic sure made kids smarter. Letting criminals walk instead of putting them in jail sure made streets safer. Spending money we don't have sure made the dollar stronger. Using divisive political tactics and projecting that divisiveness onto you political enemies sure made this country more peaceful. I can do this all damn day.
You bought the whole package Smack and without wasting a moment to reflect. I am sure you can do that all damn day, but unquestioningly believing and repeating nonsense created for the rubes is not something to brag about.
The evidence of team friday's failure is out in the open for all to clearly see. So there were no riots? Are you trying to say that kids are smarter? That's clearly not true. Are you not aware of the rising crime rates? Is there no monetary inflation? Where's that unity?
When you call others a rube, you are just projecting. You have got to be blind, a flat-out liar, or a rube yourself in denial. Take your progressive sideshow back to hell with you.
Smack you twit, every indicator you describe was already in motion during the last president's term and some of them are both international problems and/or due to policies enacted during the last presidency. The causes are deep and both parties could have acted differently to minimize them.
My line of argument concerned the fact that everything progressives touch turns to shit. All the problems I mentioned have one root, it is sad to see that you don't have the ability to see that. Or is it that you do, and you are just a shill who will say anything that is politically expedient for an agenda you support. I actually believe it's the latter.
I also noticed that you did not refute anything I said, but tried to use a blanket statement to dismiss the arguments I have made.
Smack, I'm sorry but I don't have that much patience to refute obvious and non-specific party line bullshit.
Because you can't. So just kick the can and go back to twisting your nipples.
Omg... Right... Like thank goodness that old productive Trump growing economy was replaced by Biden's Hyper-Inflation, Resource Shortage, Dead economy and Subsidizing Laziness..... Toppled off by massively MORE debt, loss of Liberty and crony socialism.. /s
Carry on, you slack-jawed bigot.
TJJ, you live in a dream world. That's how your cult leader likes it, so you're a good stooge.
" Under Trump, the economy is on track to average slightly above zero in his first term because of the sharp losses from the pandemic. Growth improved to 2.3 percent in Obama’s second term. ...Excluding 2020, growth in Trump’s initial three years in office was 2.5 percent — barely above Obama and well below the growth under the Clinton, Reagan and Johnson administrations."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/09/05/trump-obama-economy/
lmao... Thanks for the reference to your 'cult leader' propaganda..
Apparently even they had to admit that Trump did do better than Obama.. And just never-mind every economic disaster occurred during a Democratic Presidency and Congress control. (The Great Depression, The Great Recession and soon to be The Great Inflation)... And just never-mind both Obama and Biden with Democrat Congress came out of the gates TRIPLING the deficit and growing the debt like nobodies business.
I'm sure your 'cult leaders' will take credit when Republicans get control of congress and puts a wiff of STOP on you Democrat Criminals.
Gosh; What did Democrats expect anyways. They're always lobbying for MORE and MORE THEFT... Did they really think all that theft was going to cause people to want to work harder???
TJJ, even subtracting Covid 2020 when Trump's slow in-denial reaction was responsible for some of the economic crash, Trump's GDP growth rate - pumped up with the $1 trillion dollar hot check red ink tax cut bill - was .2% better than Obama's.
You don't know WTF you are talking about.
"the $1 trillion dollar hot check", written by 87% Democrats.
And once again, "It's Republicans fault for not stopping us Leftards!!!"
Shall I bring up that Democrat speaker THWARTED the Congressional Vote on the Cares Act...
And that the only massive objection was by Thomas Massie [R]....
Not a single Democrat resisted.... As a matter of fact it was all over the news that the only complaint from the left was that it wasn't ENOUGH tons of "hot checks"...
TJJ, I'm sorry but you're too fucking stupid to engage with.
Was that a, "Nah, Nah, Nah, Nah, Nah; I can't hear you?" lol....
Subtracting the authoritarian shut down of businesses by democrat governors and mayors which was responsible for some of the economic crash. I remember Trump banning travel from China to help slow the spread of covid and you ladies cried like Nancy Kerrigan.
Oh this just in from your own 'ignorance' of the above posted article.
"The economy grew just shy of 1 percent in Obama’s first term"...
+ a never-mind Republican took over congress in the second term.
Rightfully said; even the Obama growth that didn't outgrow Trumps was spearheaded by Republicans.
TJJ, maybe you missed it, but Obama came in after the 2008 crash which was the worst since 1929.
Carry on.
FDR had 12-Years of a Democratic Majority 'fix' for the economy...
Also know as The Great Depression of 1929.
Also the introduction to UN-Constitutional National Socialism.
Also initiated by the Federal Reserve Act pitched again by Democrats.
Republicans aren't blameless. But if you don't see a pattern here it's simply because of party-bias and projection. Democrats have a running record of Killing Liberty, Crashing Economies, Supporting Slavery & Theft, and IGNORING the USA (U.S. Constitution) and trying to build a Nazi-Empire.
Why the random capitalization, other than your slack-jawed illiteracy, clinger?
When there is no proper retort, grammar Nazi.
Just wait.
isnt this really a case for euthanasia (in utero euthanasia) instead of abortion...?
if you classified it as such it would rule out the buyers remorse abortion of someone waiting too long and their meal ticket leaves them so they want to get rid of the inconvenience.
Thanks for the semantical approach Ersatz. Making a horror like this young woman experienced palatable to those trying to punish her is a particularly cowardly moral approach.
I'll take you seriously when the father is made responsible by the force of law, including finding him, and you drop the school marm/church lady rhetoric about "meal tickets" and "inconvenience".
You use that word 'cowardly' - i dont think it means what you think it means.
You were using a crazy bad scenario as a justification for abortion via a super emotive appeal.
I was just observing that there is a justification for life ending, just not based on abortion rights - thats is just a non sequituir. Her case is an argument for euthanasia.
You just want to use this case as a blanket argument for the next scenario i spelled out - that of gal who doesnt mind having a kid so long as she's taken care of. When that opportunity goes - well , so long pregnancy. You dont seem to have any empathy outside of your silo of progressive purity.
squirrels must be out today - i added and adendum but that appears to be in the ether.
Basically it was to point out your poor mind reading skills. But really its just you attributing motive to justify your politcally motivated hatred for those who might disagree with you.
[See what i did there - attributing motives to you? ]
I think I read your mind clearly enough from the self indicting punitive take on the problem, repeated and amplified here. We get that you think the young are having too much fun and must pay dearly for their mistakes - or in this case that of others - but while that is common among the old and the religious, it is not the basis for sound or even moral law.
If punishment is what you are after I would expect you would favor any law banning abortions would include automatic the apprehension of the father and the immediate attachment of his future earnings until the child reaches maturity. Failing that, the state should ensure payments necessary for the raising and education of the child. After all, if the state wants to enforce responsibility, why put it all on the mother-to-be and none on the father, or the voters who are demanding and enforcing it?
Ugh! Its not worth arguing with you. I'll just add this..
I was agreeing that your sob story could have benefited from an intervention. I was pointing out that using the story the way you did was emotional blackmale was just an argument intended to bulldoze its way for your ultimate goal. I just took issue with the justification. Now see if you can read and put your progressive mind reading on hold.....
Its not a justification for abortion - its a justification for euthanasia ... of the pre born baby. YOU want it to mean everyone can end the life of any preborn at anytime for any reason [i think thats your finely nuanced take.]. Your story argues for mercy to the preborn child and for the situation of the mother. I'm not arguing that. Just saying it doesnt support the larger abortion debate.
It’s really best to just insult asshole Joe. Debating him is pointless.
Translating RMac - "It’s really best to just insult Joe" because he'll kick your ass if you engage him.
Ersatz, I don't think we are in agreement. My supposed "sob story", while not common - neither are "late term abortions" - is a common enough reason for late abortions. My wife was a NP in obstetrics and has dealt with multiple cases like this.
Abortions are thankfully legal in America and widely supported, while euthanasia is neither, so your suggestion is a born loser designed to avoid facing the fact that you want to control other peoples lives. That's clear from your language. Your punitive approach - "hey, you kids get off my lawn!" - is also not something I agree with unless you extend it to the fathers and then the states if they insist on forcing births as I described above.
hey - if you want people to live without consequences ... fine.
you do you.
You can pretend such a position is moral.... but we both know that it isn't.
Joe Friday, go fuck yourself.
Nooo! Then there will be more stupid assholes that shit out of their mouths.
You people wouldn't know what to do with a woman even if you had the legal right to chain one to the radiator.
That’s not what your mom said.
Are you a biologist? How would you even know what a woman is?
Im not really even sure why you and all these histrionics are screeching about "women's right" and whatnot.
Havent you heard? This kind of language is HIGHLY offensive to trans men who also are being hurt. This is not to mention [two (or three!) spirit people, non-binary people, cricket people, unicorn people, furries] - who happen to have uteruses.
They are called birthing people Tony. Catch up to modern times you fucking bigot
Language evolving doesn't hurt anyone.
If that's your big problem in life, I don't have time to listen to your problem.
"If that's your big problem in life, I don't have time to listen to your problem."
Ironically this is the position most sane people have taken toward the LGBTQ gender dysphoria nuts, which usually gets them labeled as committing hate crimes and genocide by said nuts.
*shoulder shrug* meh, im fine watching you little girls shreek yourselves into irrelevance. Rational adults aren't going to continue voting for a bunch of people with an imaginary mentality that somehow makes most religions look normal.
I didn't realize there was a political party of hysterical internet trans kids.
I have to say, I do admire Republicans' total ability to maintain allegiance with the mere use of memes.
What's a radiator?
In this day and age, please define what a woman is.
Alito has supported John Doe warrants, an explicitly anti-constitutional exercise of government power. So I have no particular reason to think that he would be consistent about anything other than listening to his authoritarian gut.
As far as a recognized right to use mind-altering drugs, how does one explain the various Gin Acts of 18th century Britain - the parent country?
The Congress has the authority, under Article I, Section 8, to regulate interstate commerce. That would essentially mean that they can prohibit the importation and interstate transportation of drugs, and to attach one or more criminal sanctions for violating those laws. The problem arises when Congress prohibits and criminalizes the mere possession of any substance, or the sale of it. Those are powers left to the states. Consider for example, the remaining laws against possessing CBD that has any detectable amount of THC - all the good CBD has a trace amount of it. It is legal to possess, sell and transport it under federal law, but prohibited by many state laws. Similarly, cannabis is still illegal under federal law, but a number of state have legalized it. The common factor in both of these examples is state action. When you prohibit the transportation of a substance in interstate commerce, that's one thing. Criminalizing the mere possession of that substance, after it has ceased traveling in interstate commerce, is an extension of the limited power granted to the Congress. Much has been made of the crime of causing something to travel in interstate commerce, or otherwise affecting it. by producing the product wholly within a state. Think of the federal prosecutions for the manufacture of a gun, or the growing of your own cannabis. Saying that not buying your gun or weed from an out of state company and having it shipped to you should be an unconstitutional expansion of Congress' power to regulate commerce actually moving between the states and foreign nations.
Thanks for an excellent article.
Maybe the leak was a "blessing" in disguise because a lot of well thought out arguments can be made before the Justices make the final ruling. It's like open-sourcing computer code where many people can look at a solution in order to improve it. Maybe final drafts should always be made public to allow the public to comment 30 days before a ruling is final. Instead of just allowing friend of the court papers for either side, the court can receive comments regarding their draft opinion so that they can improve it.
Look to Republicans dying on the hill of banning abortion combined with Democrats snatching defeat from the jaws of victory with continued woke politics and insisting on federalizing abortion instead of moving the battle to the states. It won't make a difference in NY and CA. However the SCOTUS decides this summer, look to big Blue turnout in November. FL and GA are on the edge of turning blue and TX is getting a definite purplish tinge.
For the record, I not only support a woman's (and I have no problem defining the word) right to choose I support a man's right to choose. Here it is girls, absent an enforceable agreement to support any child you might have as a result of hooking up with some random guy you are on your own. A man's right to choose should limit his responsibility for your choice to keep any child from any union to paying for the cost of an abortion.
The vast majority of Americans doesn't realistically give a f*ck about abortion either way. And the ones that do are happy with European-style abortion laws that limit abortion to the first trimester.
This is not a winning issue for Demorats.
The federal government obviously lacked the power to prohibit alcohol until they amended the constitution to obtain that power. That amendment has been repealed by further amendment, leaving no constitutional basis for any federal prohibition on any drug.
Any act of congress purporting to do so is not a law at all, but an act of usurpation, and any court upholding such acts is derelict in their duty.
-jcr
Like just about every other justice, Alito starts with his desired outcome, then attempts to defend it.
Just look at his disgraceful, moronic attempt to explain how rejecting every underlying legal argument for abortion doesn't also impact Lawrence and Griswold at a minimum. He outright fucking admits he's ruling based on moral considerations rather than the law, so the others are safe even though they no longer have legal arguments after a right to privacy was rejected. And even there he fails, because the "abortion is special because it's a life" argument applies in the exact same way to birth control based on not allowing a fertilized egg to implant.
They're making it blatantly obvious they don't give a shit about the law, consistency, logic, or anything else.
They just think that constitutional rights that women and other vulnerable groups have relied on for decades are better left to gerrymandered state legislatures.
These people do not believe that these individual rights should exist.
It's a curious position, considering they manifestly have the power to will these rights into existence, and did. Just as they have the power to will them out of existence.
It's such a curious quality of all conservative thought. They are never honest about it. They never tell the whole truth. They hide behind outlandish legal theories and outright lie in confirmation hearings about their agenda.
I guess I may never understand holding political views you feel the need to keep secret from the majority of society.
Roe, Lawrence, and Griswold are each based on very different legal reasoning. Therefore, you can rationally reject the reasoning in Roe and accept the reasoning in Lawrence and Griswold.
Alito isn't outlawing abortion (which is his personal moral stance). Alito is saying that this is a matter for legislatures.
You are making it clear that you "don't give a shit about the law, consistency, logic, or anything else."
Alito isn't arguing for/against the existence of rights based on whether people have been engaging in some conduct for a long time; that would be ridiculous.
Alito was saying that he might consider to let a wrongful SCOTUS decision stand if the right it created out of thin air was deeply rooted in history.
There has been no wrongful SCOTUS decision granting a right to take drugs. And even if there were, Alito's reasoning would be simply to send decisions about drug prohibition back to the states. Under the US Constitution, states certainly have the power to outlaw drug use.
The War on Drugs is unconstitutional.
Violently so.