Environmental Protection Agency
Environmentalists Are Blocking the Post Office From Replacing Busted 30-Year-Old Mail Trucks
Congressional Democrats are insisting on expensive green tech, even though USPS is in desperate financial condition.

The United States Postal Service (USPS) wants to add 165,000 new trucks to its fleet, which hasn't been upgraded in over 30 years. The agency says it must upgrade its trucks due to their "inefficient gasoline engines" and lack of "modern safety features." But now congressional Democrats hope to stall the agency's plan because it won't add enough electric vehicles, even though forcing the USPS to purchase an entirely "green" fleet would cost the financially troubled agency billions more than its proposed plan.
As required by the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA), the USPS submitted its environmental impact statement for Next Generation Delivery Vehicle acquisitions in January 2021. The agency plans to purchase 50,000 to 165,000 new trucks over the next 10 years, of which 5,000 would be battery electric vehicles. This means that 10 percent of the new USPS vehicles will be emissions-free and the remaining 90 percent will be gas-powered.
The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) as well as the White House Council on Environmental Quality quickly issued complaints, claiming that the USPS' statement did not fully comply with NEPA and that the agency must rely less on gas-powered vehicles.
In its letter to Jennifer Beiro-Réveillé, senior director of environmental affairs and corporate sustainability at the USPS, the EPA complained that the impact statement did not "disclose essential information underlying the key analysis of Total Cost of Ownership (TCO), underestimates greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions, fails to consider more environmentally protective feasible alternatives, and inadequately considers impacts on communities with environmental justice concerns." The White House said the purchase would conflict with President Joe Biden's effort to ensure that federal agencies achieve 100 percent zero-emission vehicle acquisitions by 2035. (The USPS is an independent agency and doesn't fall under the jurisdiction of Biden's zero-emissions executive order.)
In response, USPS said it would move forward with its proposal and that there is no legal basis to deny it. "Our commitment to an electric fleet remains ambitious given the pressing vehicle and safety needs of our aging fleet as well as our fragile financial condition," said Postmaster General Louis DeJoy in a press release. "But the process needs to keep moving forward."
Meanwhile, Rep. Gerry Connolly (D–Va.) has introduced legislation to block any USPS vehicle purchases unless 75 percent of the trucks are electric or emissions-free. And last week, a group of House Democrats penned a letter calling for an investigation into the purchase over its environmental impact. According to a spokeswoman, the letter has been received by the inspector general's office and is being carefully reviewed.
The cost of the purchase would be $6 billion over 10 years. Electrifying the fleet, however, would cost the USPS $2.3 billion more over 20 years due to the cost of manufacturing lithium-battery vehicles, as well as the 2021 average cost of kilowatt-hours ($0.11/kWh) versus gas ($2.71/gallon).
The purchase is part of DeJoy's 10-year Delivering for America plan to make the USPS more efficient and financially viable. Considering the agency's longtime financial unsustainability, it should be prioritizing its fiscal performance over its environmental impacts right now. Forcing the USPS to buy fewer trucks than it needs or necessitating another federal bailout further jeopardizes the agency's ability to serve Americans.
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One option would be to have the postal workers return to foot delivery to the door. You can't get any greener.
I would pay admission to hear that proposed to the union.
Yup, as a kid that was how I got my mail. The home town is bigger now, but we have more mailmen, so it balances out. I do notice that some mailmen will park their jeeps at the start of a street and then walk up one side and back down the other, but others will still literally drive fifty feet each stop. Jeepers don't waste your jeep that way! Get some exercise.
Modern day today in the fancy schmancy suburb, and I think they've contracted out mail delivery to those least able to speak English. So definitely time to sell off the USPO.
My local post office uses Chrysler mini-vans. They got them all within the last 10 years.
The letter carrier parks at the end of my block, walks down one side of the block delivering mail, walks up the other side of the block delivering mail, back to the van. Pulls forward 1 block.
Rinse, repeat.
The Constitution says "To establish Post Offices and Post Roads", not threaten to kill competitors. Once established the things ought to be sold off with guarantees they will never be snooped, taxed or regulated.
There is still a couple of routes where I live where the mailman parks the truck down the block and then walks the block. This past Christmas he had a cart he pulled behind him with packages. I would like to see more of that.
So let the Congressional Democrats pay for them out of money that would otherwise have gone to their districts. Problem solved.
Also, if the USPO is self funding, just have the USPO buy their own jeeps. Sheesh.
Yeah. I thought the USPO was an independent entity. Why does Congress get any day in their purchasing ans?
There are independent just like we are independent in choosing to mask or not, vax or not, etc.
Welcome to government "independence". (I know your question was rhetorical.)
So I'm NOT crazy. That's what I thought about it.
WHO ARE these busybodies ton their whinge about"greenhouse gases" anyway? Don't they know (of COURSE they really do....) that except for hydro and nuclea, most poewr generation produces CO2, which is NOT a "greenhouse gas". (if it was such, then WHY do real grenhouse operators raise the CO2 level in their spaces to three to six times what is outside the building?)
It's almost like environmentalists are retarded sub human cancers. If only we had the founder of green peace to warn us
How independent are they if they have to get approval from DC desk jockeys?
Perhaps the USPS should stop delivery to certain persons in DC who think they rule us instead of govern us.
The United States Postal Service is an independent agency of the executive branch of the United States federal government responsible for providing postal service in the United States. How is it you know so little about your own country?
Cutting off their nose to spite their face
The mail boxes at our business park are being broken into weekly now. Instead of delivering the mail to the businesses (which would take no more than 20 minutes) the USPS is just refusing to deliver the mail until the boxes are replaced. I have no idea what they plan to do when the new boxes get pried open. Petty crime is rampant in Austin these days.
Since our regular carrier still wears a mask and yells at anybody that approaches too close without one, it may have something to do with her. When we go by the PO to pick up our mail, she is working behind the counter and doing her part to educate the ignorant by yelling at the customers who don't observe the distance marks on the floor.
Petty fascists gotta do fascism.
Post Office operations in Texas were the worst I've ever experienced. They lost or misplaced more of my mail in the brief period I lived there than everywhere else I've lived combined.
I don't know if there's just so many people in the Texas cities that the central mail sorting facilities can't handle the amount of mail going through, or typical bureaucratic decline in competency, but they were awful.
a real power monger, hey? I know (and despise) the type.
I also fastiously ignore them, which sometimes can lead to some amusing "fireworks" shows,
My sister lives in NW Harris County and the two local PO branches are notorious in stealing from cards, letters, packages. To the point that she drives up to Conroe to send her mail.
fewer postmen *and* vehicles please.
I went to the local post office last fall, no mask. Went to the robo package delivery unit and skipped the line of half masked people. Some things about the post office do work well for me. I don't get much mail though. Carrier walks through yard (including snow) between houses. Mail arrives past 4:00 pm lately.
…… average cost of kilowatt-hours ($0.11/kWh) versus gas ($2.71/gallon).
1. Where are you buying gas?
2. Comparison is like apples to oranges.
Cost per mile is way in favor of electric.
"Cost per mile is way in favor of electric."
Do you amortize the life of the battery? Over how many years?
Do you include costs associated with heavy metals disposal?
Asking for a friend.
Do you amortize the cost of a new engine or transmission? Oil changes? Radiator flush?
The original “comparison “ was cost of energy input. Electric wins.
How about a tune-up for the old gas guzzler, vs. building a totally new electric vehicle from scratch, including mining the steel, shipping the parts, delivering the vehicles, generating the electricity, and transmitting it across lossy power lines, at the risk of starting forest fires?
Get a horse!
No, subsidized price not counting depreciation per mile is in favor of electric. Costs are another thing altogether.
re: "Cost per mile is way in favor of electric."
Not if you include the lost time recharging. Much less if you include the increased cost of vehicles, disposal costs of the rare-earth batteries at end of life and all the rest of the factors necessary for a Total Cost of Ownership analysis. My own calculations for a private vehicle (used for average commuting) is that a hybrid vehicle doesn't hit break-even until $4 per gallon and that's ignoring the opportunity cost of recharging time. I bought a Prius anyway because the toy value was high.
re: the opportunity cost of recharging time - Unlike the vehicles we commuters/shoppers use, a postal van is going to run pretty much continuously for eight hours. Yes, there are some routes where the postman will park at the end of the street and walk from house to house. That's usually in urban communities with mailboxes on the houses themselves. In suburban and rural communities with mailboxes at the street, the postman has to drive the route. Yes, it's at slow speed with lots of stops - conditions that favor electric over idling gas engines. But even given those conditions, you can't get an eight hour shift out of a single charge with any realistically-sized vehicle. That means you'll have to interrupt the route for a trip back to the city recharging station. Conservatively, you'll lose an hour of productivity per truck per day. Electric-only is realistic in a few communities and economically impractical everywhere else. Hybrids might make sense but even there, the business case is sketchy.
Not if you include the lost time recharging.
Most people charge overnight or while working.
Commuters, yes. That's why I got to exclude it from the calculations for my personal vehicle. Postal trucks that need to run for a full eight-hour shift can't make it that whole time on one charge. They will need to recharge both overnight and at least once in the middle of the shift (possibly multiple times depending on the assigned route).
An average Mail truck travels less than 5,000 miles per year; most are driven less than 25 miles per day. A mail delivery route consists of many stops spaced at short distances. This constant stop-and-start pattern results in a fuel economy of
about 19 mpg for both CNG and gasoline.
It’s not the hours, it’s the miles.
So what does this have to do with walking?
and the added initial capital cost is way out of line.
Normal maintenance is also far higher on electric/hybrid rides,
didjya READ the date of the report that generated those numbers?
At that time the numbers were accurate
Thank Dopey Joe for the ones that are found today
What the USPS needs is a separate green stamp tax, a separate border-only green stamp which you stick on the envelope around the regular stamp. Costs a lot extra, of course. But you get to signal your virtue without bothering us carbon spenders.
Wouldn't work. Greenies want YOU to pay for their virtue.
Cut home delivery to twice a week. Fewer vehicles (and humans) needed. Problem solved.
That would be fine with me. Snail mail doesn't need to be fast.
ya you had a good idea once like Mailers on Monday and First Class on Tuesday etc
But whut abt entrapment and DEA SWAT teams for peepul sending the wrong plant leaves! The Comstock Laws require a Stalinist monopoly to help deport, shoot, jail, rob and murder people (baaad people). Postal goons need armored diesel Humvees!
The proposed new ICE vehicles are crap fuel efficiency even for gas engines. The vehicles they are proposing will average 8.6 mpg (industry standard for similar gas powered delivery vehicles is around 12-14mpg)
It is phenominal that the post office has managed to get 30 years of service out of their vehicles. Detroit's failure to manufacure any offerings for the driving public that achieve that kind of longevity is sad. Kudo's to the mechanics that keep the postal service vehicles running. Of course the public was not able to buy a consumer version of those vehicles as that would defeat the Detroit business model of "use them for 7 years and discard". On the matter of going electric, I think they should as it is a better bang for the buck. Forget about fuel savings as that is not really where the meat of the economies are. It is in the maintenance ; brakes last over 100,000 miles due to regenerative braking. No exhaust rusting, no plugged fuel injectors, no oil changes, etc. Over 30 years, that maintenance that you DON'T have to do adds up.
as clean as cars burn today exhaust rusting is all but gone. I hve not seen any sighs of this even on vehicles twenty years and more. Mine is 1998 with 385K miles and exhaust system looks like new everywhere. I have replaced front pads twic, once quite recently. First set lasted close to 200 K miles and I often haul/tow SUPER heavy loads Modern fuel systems are so accurate I almost never see clogged injectors, the oil remains clean, between changes, etc.
Two foot driving and mad dashes to net box then slam on the raks hard will wear iyt brake systems sooner. Drivers can be idiiots. NORMAL drivint t techniques can go a long ways toward efficiency. People who dirve someone else's car often don't treat it as if it were their own. Brake linings and pads are cheap anyway. For those Mopar breadboxes, front pads at retail would run mid-$20 range. WHolesale direct from manufacrurer in quantity, maybe down below ten bucks the set. I can buy new discs for cars that size range for around $30 each onesies. Again, pallet loads? Prolly below $20. I just did all four wheels of pads and discs on a 2013 Mini in well under two hours, working on the ground, no lift.
If zero emission vehicles are good enough for Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble, they're good enough for the Post Office®!
Is this an Alyssa reprint of a Mother Jones or Utne Reader article?
The current USPS trucks around here pollute more than the worst trucks, belching black smoke as they stop-and-go around their routes.
I have a great idea to help protect the environment: disband the post office, sell off the vehicles for scrap metal, sell off the buildings to the highest bidder, and stop delivering junk mail. Everyone already can get their bills and financial documents online. Important packages are delivered better by private carriers.
who run far LARGER vehicles, which "belch huge quantities of black smoke" and do a rotten job.
I don;t know where YOU live, but where I live I cannot see a thing out those USPS Dodge brick tailpipes nor smell a thing.
Green assholes should be immediately required to either give up the nasty things they try to ban, or pay out of pocket for the increased costs of their watermelon utopia.
Don't like fossil fuels? Then swear off ANY benefits, including second and third party users, including manufacturers and delivery. And no more bullshit about claiming you pay extra for renewal power unless you shut down your life at night.
That is called the "Strawman Argument" go ahead and look it up. It can be used against anything but it is a losers plea for a win.
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When you hate America, as this bunch of democrats do, nothing else matters but to stick in to the Real Americans
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So by your definition I can't love America because I want the post office to lower long term costs and pollute our beautiful country less? Real Americans love their country by spewing pollutants and and paying allegiance to the fossil fuel industry?
Those Chrysler Bricks are great rigs. rock solid, frame. suspension, chassis, etc, very durable. They are relativley lightweight, and functional, Besides that , they re fully owned and paid off. Most see fewer than 25K miles per year, which is why they are still strong after 30 years.
Best solution to replenish the fleet would be to have somone design/produce a propane or CNG fuel system and change them over. Use the same engine/gearbox. Replace the fuel feed system to use the far cleaner natural gas/propane. NO carbon buidliup, far cheaper fuel per mile. If they aren't already, switch to a carbon metallic or ceramic brake pad, outlasts standare resin pads three or four times, only half again initial cost. Discs last three to four times as long, as well.
NO ONE I"vea seen so far is figuring in the environmental load of scrapping the current fleet and expending the energy. resources,, labiur, etc, to build from scratch the wntire fleet new. The fuel conversion can be done on current engines, leaving the existing gearboxes to contune service. I'm gonna guess at somewhere near $30K per replacement complete venicle, times the 300K units in the current fleet. That's a CHUNK of money manufacturing, resource, labour, energy costs to make happen. The existing vehicles have lenty of life left in them. Use it. Bring in high pressure natgas to the post office facilities, set up their own refuel station and pump there. Sure one new employee, but his cost will be frction of what is now spent byt he carriers, or some other jockey, taking the rigs down to refuel.
Highway trucks, as commercial vehicles, generally last for many years and need very little cost to maintain. I've known many truck trators to still be going strong after millions of miles. Those postal bricks, while not as heavy in capacity, were built to commercial stndards. Proof? How many families are sill using cars that were built thirty years ago, cost effectively?
My own (Ford van) is 24 yers old, 385K miles, and has needed starter, alternator, accessory drove belt and two rollers, water pump, thermostat, turbo rebiuilt, one set of shocks (should be reppaced again) and everything else is factory original, no other work done since new. I have all service records from previous owner. Still gets the same fuel mileage as when I bought it in 2005. No sign of anything serious developong. Those postal rigs are built, for their size and capacity, abut the same as this van. WHY replace them>
And in particular why let the green weenies dictate what the post office must buy to please thEM? If they are SO committed to their selection, let THEM raise the money and buy them.
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If they want to go green they would close the US post office. Give people in need low cost lap tops and deliver mail electronically. Packages can go to private carriers. Take lots of trucks off the road and relieve traffic as well.
Unfortunately the article omits the fact that the new vehicle only gets 8.6 mpg which is only 0.4 mpg's better than the current fleet. That is pretty abysmal for a fleet unit with limited capacity being deployed on a daily basis. Amazon delivery vans are about 14 mpg. Cost per unit is about $50k. The cost per unit on the new postal truck is about $56.3k. So while environmentalists may be blocking legislation, is it really a bad thing when per unit cost. & efficiency is so incredibly low? Any business that would accept those operating cost numbers is downright incompetent. So I guess that means sometimes the ends do justify the means.
If only Al Gore had won in 2000. He would have legislated so much R&D into this EV technology that we'd already all be driving vehicles that never need to recharge and the price would be affordable. Damn you W.
Ordinarily I don't like envirowhackos that much, but in this case if they can get that eyesore the USPO wants to build cancelled, I'm all for it.
Why the USPO doesn't just buy Ford Transit vans is beyond me. They're available in both gas and electric, already designed for delivery use, and cheaper than the eyesore they want to buy.
Existential threat, bleat the sheep.
So according to "reason," the Post Office is some kind of outrageous gubbermint infringement on private Pony Express riders, but you're concerned about the gas mileage on their outrageous infringing trucks?