It's Time for New York City To Scrap Its Cap on Street-Food Permits
Despite shifting enforcement away from cops, NYC is still ticketing the dickens out of New York's street-food sellers.

A new report suggests New York City's shift away from police enforcement of street-food vending, which was supposed to protect vendors from the constant regulatory harassment they face in the city, has failed to achieve its key goals. In fact, according to new data released this week by Gothamist and WNYC, the city may be ticketing vendors more now than before the change.
When the move away from police enforcement of vending regulations was first proposed under then-Mayor Bill de Blasio in 2020, I called it an overdue and welcome move that should deescalate dangerous and needless confrontations between police and food vendors.
Last year, the city shifted primary enforcement of vending regulations from NYPD to the Department of Consumer and Worker Protection (DCWP). But the new WNYC/Gothamist data reveal city police are still issuing tickets. That—coupled with the fact DCWP issued more tickets this past summer than the city did during the same period in 2019—means that, combined, Eater New York reports, DCWP and NYPD "issued 540 tickets from July to September last year, as compared to 525 tickets issued by the NYPD in the same period in 2019."
The quality and quantity of the tickets can be infuriating. One vendor Gothamist spoke with claims to have received 70 tickets last year, some for alleged violations (such as "not standing close enough to the curb") that can carry fines of up to $1,000.
Problems with New York City's regulations for food vendors go far beyond which agency issues pricey tickets to alleged violators. In fact, blame for the overwhelming majority of any "problem" with food vending in New York City falls squarely on the city's longstanding and utterly pointless cap on vending permits—which every food-vending operation must have in order to sell legally in the city. The city's cap on permits has stood at around 3,000 for decades, I explained in a 2011 article for Reason. As I detailed, permits attach to things—food trucks, stands, carts, and the like. Licenses, on the other hand, which are also required but are not capped, must be held by the people who work on those food trucks, carts, or stands.
Practically, the cap on permits means thousands of New Yorkers who want to sell street food legally—including those with valid licenses—cannot do so for no reason other than that the city refuses to sell them the permits it requires.
That artificially low cap on permits forces thousands of interested city vendors either to operate without a permit, which is illegal, or to buy a permit on the black market, which is also illegal.
That was 11 years ago. The problem still exists. And now New York City is back to ticketing vendors aggressively.
That's problematic for many reasons. For one, food vendors can be particularly vulnerable. For decades, for example, recent immigrants—no one's idea of a powerful lobby—have comprised a significant number of city food vendors. And since the Covid pandemic, chefs and other kitchen staff who've lost jobs have also swelled the ranks of vendors. And while New York City's permit process doesn't serve to protect consumers and workers—the DCWP's whole raison d'etre—it does serve to protect incumbent vendors and brick-and-mortar businesses from competition. Protectionism is no basis for law.
While terrible, New York City's egregious permitting process may not be the nation's worst. Across the country, in Los Angeles, underground food vendors who were promised a path to legal vending are experiencing largely what New York's vendors face—and on an even larger scale. As I explained in a December column, a California state law passed in 2018 that "was supposed to decriminalize and legalize street vending for the estimated 10,000 underground food vendors" in Los Angeles County (along with others across the state) has failed egregiously. In L.A. County, 98 percent of those 10,000 or so underground vendors have not been able to obtain vending permits.
Back in New York City, many politicians understand that a problem exists. But their will to treat then-Mayor de Blasio's slightly gentler enforcement of food vending rules as a first step to reforming a broken process appears not to exist. Last year, for example, tone-deaf mayoral candidate Andrew Yang complained "that NYC is not enforcing rules against unlicensed street vendors."
For decades, New York City has shown it's incapable of providing food vendors with a fair and just permitting process. Food vendors are not the problem here. Even modest reform efforts have failed. It's time for New York City to eliminate its permit requirements for all food vendors.
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Liberty dies first in the minds of people who dream of modern welfare city-states.
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More like Ill-fare Shitty-States, amirite?
Have people seen that undercover video taken by the cop in Westchester County, New York that definitively proves beyond any shadow a doubt that the Department of Homeland Security is bringing illegals from the border into the country using contracted chartered buses and planes, flying them around to small airports across the country like the one in White Plains in the wee hours of the morning to try and keep it all secret?
Unless congress has specifically authorized these activities and the money being spent on them, multiple laws are almost certainly being broken, and this is absolutely a slam-dunk impeachable offense. Of course, like almost everything that happens under this administration, it has MofoBama's disgusting little fingerprints all over it.
And it won't matter because the corruption and collusion between the American media, FBI, judiciary and other government departments is so great that you may as well be all living in Venezuela.
But totes OK as long as they promise to get vaccinated.
Saw it. Everybody there seems to be as clueless as anybody else.
Can you link?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10448165/Leaked-video-shows-illegal-migrants-landing-Westchester-airport-secret-charter-flight.html
Damn! For all we know, Homeland Security could be providing chauffeur service for little Jihadists wearing dynamite vests like those brainwashed by Hamas to use against Israeli civilians.
Yes, it’s a legit impeachable offense if true. No, nothing will happen.
Watch Reason ignore the story.
We're in the ignoring phase. Soon it will turn to the acknowledge-but-its-not-as-ad-as-you-think phase.
Future Reason headline:
No, The Biden Administration is not destroying Democracy with its immigrant placement program.
The article will mention Trump several times during the whataboutism spin.
When I visited NYC I had amazingly mediocre food every time I ate at a stand, which was almost every meal.
This was weird to me as I've always ate great street food visiting cities whether it was Seoul, Minneapolis, Vancouver or Barcelona.
NYC (Manhattan at least) is a "World Class City" and "The Greatest City in the World." [As any multi-millionaire celebrity is willing to tell you.] Did you really expect to get more than mediocre food for anything less than $100 per meal?
Are you on crack? The elite won't settle for $100 meals. $350 is the price floor per person, and that is before drinks.
Yes, people have seen that video.
Weigh your options then comply, agitate, or move. New York and LA and Butte are NY's, LA's or Butte's problem.
I tire of reading of bad outcomes for people who choose to be governed by autocrats.
We need a term for "libertarians" who are just as inclined to meddle in other peoples' lives as progressives and evangelicals.
But how are Abolitionists meddling down South to free slaves on a par with slavers meddling in African markets to buy slaves?
You can't have a Scooby-Doo episode without "Those meddling kids."
It's called progressives and evangilicals
Advocating for Liberty is meddling in other people's lives and as such the term you want for those libertarians who meddle would be 'Libertarian'.
But it's never totally "someone else's problem." A freer New York, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania would make a trip to "Live Free Or Die" New Hampshire less perilous. As of now, the only way I would go is by ferry boat up the East Coast.
There are whole swaths of the World i won't go to voluntarily anymore and many US States and other minor jurisdictions I won't step foot in because of their daily willful violation of Rights. Why go looking for a fight I can't win?
That is not anyone else's problem and I am not asking anyone to take it on. It is only someone else's problem to the extent that our needs might align.
I think of it this way: Through Regional and National associations, City Managers, Zoning Officials, Land Use Planners, and Code Enforcers throughout the Nation take their cue from what these professional bureaucrats do in larger, more prominent Cities like New York, Atlanta, Chicago, and Los Angeles.
(For example, in North Carolina, a lot of Cities get model legislation and regulation templates, as well as advice-and-consent, from The Centralina Council of Governments. Charlotte officials have a big voice in this and their input affects how smaller neighboring towns draw up policies and laws.)
If these bureaucrats get push-back from freedom-loving people in the Big Cities, it sets a momentum for push-back from freedom-loving people elsewhere snd serves as a forboding notice to bureaucrats everywhere.
As the old Murphy's Law put it: "Everything is connected to everything else."
“It’s Time For New York To Scrap….” Oooh the choices, the choices…..
Using 'Scrap' in the title of a srory about food vendors might not have been a good cboice for Baylen Linnekin.
Who says scrappy journalism is dead?
California has mandatory food scraps recycling now. Makes you wonder why.
Don’t remind me. I have to put out the garbage today and getting the trash bag in its designated slot is hell because of that useless scrap slot.
Why would you think NY would ever go for less Gov force and theft?
Local news.
Challenge to Reason staff - go two weeks without any mention of NYC or LA.
NYC and LA have some of the most frequent offenses against liberty within the US. It makes sense that they’ll be called out for being assholes.
*Raising my hand from the Shiticon Hell my beloved Santa Clara Valley has become* Reason used to call out the assholes reigning here too. Lately though, we’ve felt ignored…
But NYC and LA (and DC) are the source of the most pliable twitter feeds and the best cocktail parties.
As usual, reason gets it wrong.
Not only should there be more restrictions on food vendor permits, there should be less permits and more enforcement.
I visit NYC at least 3 months a year for family, in 2-3 week increments. I know NYC well. There is no corner I haven’t been and no restaurant I haven’t seen, if not actually sampled.
The food vendors of NYC are trash. They’ve always been trash. Not in style or substance, though they suck there. They absolutely suck in hygiene and quality.
It is rare that NYC street food vendors have food and hygiene that would pass the rigorous food handling and preparation standards of mediocre restaurants. For the most part, they’re disgusting.
Street food vendors get away with all this, along with not paying rent, having operating toilets, electricity, or staff.
They put real restaurants at a competitive disadvantage by being allowed to operate near them, without having to match standards.
No one would be worse off if tighter restrictions were put on street food vendors, except the street food vendors. And fuck them. They’re thieves, selling what is essentially counterfeit food.
If I had a restaurant and someone opened up a cart selling the same style of food as me, I’d set them and their cart on fire.
They are no threat to restaurants if the food is as bad as you say.
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So street vendors should provide toilets, electricity, and staff? Hell, the City doen't even provide those! Why should street vendors be held to that standard??
And maybe food quality would improve if more people ere free to enter the market!
And it's not enough the comment section has a Holocaust Denier and a Witch-Burner. Now we have a real-life Kulak-hater who would throw them on the bonfire side-by-side with Hitler's "Undesirables" and Witches???
Man, fuck off, Stalin-Lover!
"So street vendors should provide toilets, electricity, and staff?"
Access to running water is hygienic, especially if the kulak handles food and money.
Vendors can have off-grid power sources, propane tanks and cookers, water dispensers, soap, towels, and sanitizer, all subject to rational hygienic inspection, without limits on permits or other flat-out bans on opening the vendor wagon or truck.
Also, many brick-and-mortar convenience store have no public toilets whatsoever and yet serve both shelf food and grill food. Asking that street vendors offer toilets when brick-and-mortar budinesses aren't required is unjust.
But nobody will have a chance to offer any nice thing at all if fire-bug Mini-Mes of Joseph Stalin have their way.
"Vendors can have off-grid power sources, propane tanks and cookers, water dispensers, soap, towels, and sanitizer,"
No doubt true but I've never seen such a hygienic operation on the street. As I understand from the debates on homelessness in these pages, American cities almost entirely lack public hygiene facilities and those without homes routinely crap in the streets.
"Also, many brick-and-mortar convenience store have no public toilets whatsoever"
I believe they have toilet facilities for the staff hidden away. And the food on offer is prepared elsewhere and packaged so the staff will not actually handle food. Still it's probably best to avoid such venues. It's cheaper and healthier to prepare one's own food, or have a loved one do so. This is what the kulaks did. No fancy pants restaurants or convenience stores for them.
Right now, street food vendors piss into bottles in their vehicles or in alleys, then go right back to handling your food.
If they need to take a shit? Do you think they’ll lock up and walk over to Starbucks? They’ve got a bucket. There’s no hygiene.
They also don’t have food at proper temperature. They can’t run a generator or leave the engine running to maintain refrigeration, because NYC doesn’t allow it.
The icebox on a cart warms through the day. If you get “cooked” food for an evening meal, good luck. It was warm and raw for several hours.
Enjoy.