'Functionally Illiterate' Death Row Inmate Couldn't Understand a Form Letting Him Choose His Execution Method
Alabama allows death row inmates to pick an execution method other than lethal injection. But this intellectually disabled prisoner didn't receive proper accommodation, a judge says.

An Alabama man was sentenced to die later this month despite serious questions about his mental capacity and the method of execution. On Friday, a federal judge intervened on the prisoner's behalf.
Matthew Reeves was convicted of a brutal 1996 murder. Reeves and two friends had set out one night, "looking for some robberies," before their car broke down on the side of the road. A tow truck driver happened upon them and offered to help, at which point Reeves robbed and shot the driver, killing him. The two friends received life in prison and Reeves was sentenced to death.
But questions about Reeves' mental capacity plagued the case from the start. Recent testing indicates that Reeves has an IQ of around 70, showing "significantly subaverage intellectual functioning" and "significant deficits in multiple areas of adaptive functioning." The Supreme Court ruled in 2002's Atkins v. Virginia that executing a person with severe intellectual disabilities is unconstitutional, but left it up to the states to define intellectual disabilities for themselves.
When he was initially sentenced, Reeves was set to die by lethal injection, which is the primary method of execution nationwide. But since Reeves is in Alabama, he theoretically had the option to die in a different way: nitrogen.
After a series of botched executions in the mid-2010s led drug manufacturers to refuse to supply sedatives for lethal injection cocktails, an Oklahoma lawmaker proposed the nitrogen method. The air we breathe is about four parts nitrogen for every part oxygen. In theory, someone being put to death would simply breathe a supply of pure nitrogen, which would slowly replace the oxygen in his system and render him unconscious before his vital organs shut down. Supporters of the "nitrogen hypoxia" procedure say that it would be gradual, but painless.
Despite little evidence of the method's effectiveness, three states, including Alabama, have so far approved its use and intend to implement it. Alabama's law authorizing the method went into effect in 2018, and it allows condemned prisoners to choose electrocution or nitrogen hypoxia over lethal injection. Besides the benefit of a (supposedly) less painful procedure, there is also a strategic reason for choosing nitrogen hypoxia: No state has used it yet, and Alabama is still not ready to. For the several dozen inmates who have opted in, a sentence to death by nitrogen is, for the time being, practically a stay of execution.
But the 2018 law that authorized the method's use in Alabama contained an odd provision: A condemned prisoner could only opt for nitrogen hypoxia if the choice was "personally made by the person in writing and delivered to the warden of the correctional facility within 30 days" of his sentencing—or, if he had already been sentenced, within 30 days of June 1, 2018, the day the law went into effect. The state claimed that it had no obligation to inform any prisoners of the option, and inmates told the Montgomery Advertiser that they were not even made aware of it until days before the deadline.
It was during this five-day period that Reeves received a form with which he could have chosen nitrogen hypoxia. He did not fill it out, as he did not understand what it said. Reeves sued to be allowed to opt in to nitrogen hypoxia as opposed to lethal injection, on the basis that the state's failure to provide him with additional help was a violation of the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA).
On Friday, U.S. District Court Judge R. Austin Huffaker Jr. agreed, issuing a preliminary injunction ahead of Reeves' scheduled execution date of January 27, enjoining the state from executing him by lethal injection. Huffaker granted the reprieve on the basis that Reeves had been judged by multiple specialists to be "functionally illiterate," with a reading and comprehension level on par with an elementary schooler. Therefore, under the ADA, the state should have provided Reeves some "reasonable accommodation" when distributing the form. The state has not yet indicated whether it plans to appeal the decision: Last year, the Supreme Court declined to hear a nearly identical case brought by another Alabama inmate, who was executed by lethal injection in October.
Alabama's artificial 30-day timeline for nitrogen hypoxia selection is unnecessary and imposes extra burdens on its death row prisoners. This is doubly true for those with mental disabilities, who make up a disproportionate share of those executed each year. While there is so far no evidence that nitrogen hypoxia will accomplish what its supporters claim—humane and painless execution—it should still be available as an option for those sentenced to death. This is especially true when the primary alternative, lethal injection, can be so horribly and painfully botched.
This is not to say that Reeves does not deserve to be punished. His crime was terrible and senseless, and his sentence should reflect that. But it is beyond any reasonable expectation of the role of government for the state to kill a man who may only be capable of the most basic intellectual functions.
The death penalty is inherently inhumane, and in an ideal world, the state would have no authority to decide who lives and who dies. But if a government insists on putting prisoners to death, then the least it can do is let them choose the most humane manner possible.
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I reject the notion that the death penalty is inhumane.
If anything, the death penalty is not applied quickly or consistently enough.
The State has no business killing people. It makes it too easy for corrupt police, prosecutors, and judges to hide their malfeasance.
This.
Some people do stuff that they deserve to be impaled for, but our political and justice establishments have proven repeatedly that they're far too corrupt at every level to be trusted with life and death.
Again, 'Murdered at the hands of an Antifa mob' > 'Kyle Rittenhouse's trial'?
The State's malfeasance being presented to a jury of peers is preferable to the state or an individual's ability to hide their malfeasance in executing people out of hand.
You're both right. The death penalty is not inherently inhumane but neither can the government be trusted to carry it out fairly.
20 years of appeals isnt fair? He had 20 years to raise objections. And I dont buy his IQ at 70 as certain groups try this route to get people off of death row. He was competent enough to try to commit armed robbery. I dont remember that episode of Life Goes On.
Plus the USSC had already ruled against rigid IQ score cutoffs.
https://www.edweek.org/education/u-s-supreme-court-rejects-rigid-iq-score-cutoff-in-capital-cases/2014/05
Jeff hardest hit.
Jeffy has always reminded me of a character like Lenny. I can certainly imagine shooting him the back of the head while telling him soothingly about how we are all going to live in Libertopia one day.
20 years of appeals haven't been sufficient to guarantee the right outcome in other cases. And more time won't solve it if/when there is a systemic problem.
No matter what his IQ is, no matter how much you and I believe he is guilty and deserves death, the possibility remains that we are wrong. It is very difficult to make up for a wrongful incarceration. We can't give an innocent man his years back. But we can throw money at him to try to balance the wrong when an innocent is convicted. There's no balancing the books when an innocent man is executed, though. The possibility that we are wrong is why I don't think we can trust anyone (much less a self-interested judicial system) to execute people.
Is anybody actually arguing this guy didn't commit armed robbery?
Show me a law crafted to say we're extra special sure of this guy's guilt so we can kill him but we're only kinda sure of this other guy's guilt so we can't that won't end up being abused or with even a chance of a single person wrongfully executed and I'll concede that state sanctioned killing isn't inherently wrong.
He was competent enough to try to commit armed robbery.
I think the 'mental capacity' standard is meant to be applied to give the benefit of the doubt in a situation like what happened with Lenny in Of Mice and Men, who didn't understand that he was smothering the woman he was trying to stop from screaming.
Reeves shot a man in the throat with a shotgun from behind. He watched the man die, robbed his dead body, and then bragged about it. The guy had stopped to help and had towed their car. There was no threat, he was not conflicted, and was not in crisis. What mental impairment could possibly excuse that degree of malice?
Execution is perfectly justified.
This.
Some people tend to replace the actual case with the ideal case where evidence is purely circumstantial. This isn't that case.
It makes ones argument weaker to ignore the actual evidence of this case trying to apply a generalized circumstance.
Not defending Reeves brutal robbery and murder at all, but the time to justifiably kill him was in flagrante delicto, when the threat was eminent, not afterwards when there is any element of doubt on whether it was him or his cohorts.
Forcing a predator who needs victims to live away from others and root, hog, or die all by himself is a much more fitting punishment anyway.
Not defending Reeves brutal robbery and murder at all,
Oh, good.
but
never mind.
I also reject the idea that it's inhumane. After all, life and liberty are given equal weight, if not more to the latter ("give me liberty or give me death" makes no sense if liberty is worth less than life). In fact, I would say keeping someone alive behind bars the rest of their life is arguably more cruel than just ending it.
On the other hand, I do think the death penalty is unwise. We have had too many mistakes in the past, and once the death penalty has been applied, no correction is possible. There's no benefit to society by executing this man. It doesn't act as a deterrent to murder. It is best to just take it off the table altogether.
There's no benefit to society by executing this man.
Per your own arguments there's even less benefit in prolonging his life.
Well, I think people get to decide for themselves whether liberty is more valuable than life. It certainly seems like most decide that life imprisoned is preferable to death. Who am I to disagree?
As for the death penalty, put me in the camp that thinks that some people do deserve death, but the state can't be trusted with the power.
From the article:
"But it is beyond any reasonable expectation of the role of government for the state to kill a man who may only be capable of the most basic intellectual functions."
The state is on firmer grounds killing the mentally functional, as compared to the mentally non-functional, or poorly functional? This, after the state taxes the shit out of me to "educate" people? To "improve" their minds? WTF, somehow we are now valuing mentally non-functional folks more than the better-functioning ones! "Only an intellectual would believe such utter nonsense!" (Paraphrased George Orwell as I recall).
There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them. - Orwell, though I've failed to source this.
There is:
One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe things like that: no ordinary man could be such a fool. George Orwell, - Notes on Nationalism.
After...?
This is one of those views which are so absurd that only very learned men could possibly adopt them. - Bertrand Russell [
Source: My Philosophical Development]
https://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/there_are_some_ideas_so_wrong
Thanks!
"'Functionally Illiterate' Supreme Court Justice Couldn't Understand a Document Letting Her Differentiate Between Local Law Enforcement and a Federal Police Force."
Tough when you read too fast and get things mixed up.
I reject it due to government being involved in the investigation and prosecution of the crime that warranted the death penalty.
If someone tries to mug you and you use deadly force to stop that threat, I’m ok with that.
Meh, I'd do it right on the courthouse lawn. No need for a lot of drama here. Find the SOB guilty, lead him to the gallows, say a short and sweet prayer, and leave the son of a bitch swinging in the wind until sundown. Simple, and effective.
When government gets it wrong, then what? Government gets many things wrong.
I’d rather a guilty murderer go free than an innocent one be put to death. And in this case, he wouldn’t go free. He would just stay in jail.
I’d love perfect justice but that does not exist.
But instead we'll throw them all in prison for life.
There are instances when someone wrongfully convicted gets let free. That can’t happen when they are socially distancing six feet under.
You both have a great point. Omniscience and Omnibenevolence do not exist anywhere, including in Gummint and the Private Sector, so no one can be trusted to administer capital punishment with perfect knowledge and justice.
American Mongrel is also correct in implying that it's unjust that Taxpayers should pay to keep murderers alive for life.
Perhaps this means that either self-sufficient prisons or exile on desert islands would be the better punishment to keep bona fide predators from our midst while not irreversibly killing the wrong person.
Plus, self-sufficient prisons and desert islands at least allow for release or rescue if new evidence exonerates the convicted.
Have not checked but have heard arguments that death row inmates cost more to taxpayers than those serving life without parole.
And if we are focusing on money, just execute all Americans that receive more in govt goods and services than what they pay into the system.
Send them to Coventry!
https://www.heinleinsociety.org/2004/01/coventry-reviewed/
Does the protagonist wear an eyepatch, by any chance?
There is a plethora of groups with many funds fighting against death row convictions.
https://www.online-paralegal-degree.org/lists/5-organizations-helping-death-row-inmates/
We can't pretend they don't have resources. We have a system set up of our peers to oversee capital offenses. It is not the government and only the government. Most death row sentencing takes multiple decades of appeal.
Who fights against the appeals? And who adjudicates the appeals?
The death penalty where there is any possibility of error is wrong. Deadly force in the face of an eminent deadly threat to Life, Liberty, and Property is both right and fully justified.
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They're not saying that the death penalty is inhumane, they're saying being stupid should make you exempt.
I don't buy the reasoning myself, but in the Woke Reason it's #LawAbidingAmericansLast.
If someone's intelligence is so low that he* can't control himself, then that could mean there's no mens rea, and he should have been not guilty by means of mental illness or defect. That's not politically tenable, so verdicts such as "guilty, but insane" were cooked up. Any commitment after a verdict like that cannot bar an eventual release. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foucha_v._Louisiana
* or she.
"Guilty, but insane" was proposed for when you are there enough to manage mens rea...but there's not exactly much room to dispute that you are totally bonkers. Think along the lines of "they understand that murder is wrong, but they shot up the kindergarten because some of those kids are evil alien imposters...and since they don't know which ones, well..."
That would meet mens rea is definitely there...but, well, I have questions if you think the person isn't bonkers.
He won’t be missed.
Perhaps the only thing all of us can cheer.
Did the tow truck driver get 30 days to decide?
Exactly!!!
Let's play devil's advocate here.
If a rabid racoon had killed the tow truck driver, it would get 0 chances to appeal roadside summary justice.
A human with a sufficiently low IQ is mentally indistinguishable from a racoon.
Therefore treating low-IQ prisoners more humanely than regular-IQ prisoners is going in the wrong direction from a eugenics point of view.
What we need instead is the opposite: put obstacles in the judicial system proportional to the sentence, so that the worse the crime, the harder the obstacles are, and the higher the IQ needed to game the judicial system.
Alabama was trying to do this, but this damn federal judge knocked them down, encouraging survival of the least fit. This must stop!
From a strictly eugenics point of view it doesn't matter if we kill the person or not, as long as he is not able to father any children that would inherit his bad genes. "Survival of the fittest" doesn't refer to any particular fit or unfit person, but rather to their genetic "stock," and life in prison ends his genetic stock as effectively as execution
Whooosh!
Man, I even labeled it for you! You obviously are not fit for purpose.
You were a poor advocate for the devil, as you failed to make his case. Now who's unfit? 🙂
For what purpose?
You were unfit for my sarcasm, which arguably makes you fit for being a Reason commenter.
I was unfit for your unfitness, which also arguably makes me fit for being a Reason commenter.
If the fit fits, it must be a rabid raccoon.
I wish you all would quit talking about fitness and unfitness. I'm a calorically friendly person and talking about fitness in any form triggers the snow flake in me to melt down. SO JUST STOP IT! Wah!
It's totally fatophobic of them. Same as if they refused to have sex with a 600 pounder. (though the use of the word "pound" in such close proximity to the thought of a person of that size curdles the innards a bit dunnit?)
From a strictly eugenics point of view it doesn't matter if we kill the person or not, as long as he is not able to father any children that would inherit his bad genes.
Untrue. Particularly because 'the person' in question murdered someone (depending on the tow truck driver) prior to their reproducing.
Darwin awards are for people who remove *themselves* from the gene pool.
"...life in prison ends his genetic stock as effectively as execution..."
What is some crazy judge lets the killer out of jail? What if the killer escapes? What if the killer kills again INSIDE THE JAIL? What if the killer RAPES and spreads his deleterious genes (before or after escaping jail, or a stupid person releasing him)?
Killing the killer is the only SUREFIRE way to prevent these kinds of things! (Yes, we do need to be WAAAAY sure of our convictions here, and reserve death penalties for the killing of humans, IMHO).
Holy crap, somebody take a picture: I agree with SQRLSY. (Except for the eugenics angle.)
Opponents of the death penalty act like there's no response to the practical objection "the conviction might be false." They also usually want to compare all the end-to-end factors that might lead to a false conviction (racial bias, incompetent defense, etc) without doing the same for the counter-scenario.
How many murderers who did it got away with it because the cops were inept or corrupt?
How many got away with it because they took the 5th and just kept their mouth shut?
How many got away with it because "beyond reasonable doubt" is a very low standard of defense, and video hardly ever exists?
How many got away with it because they could afford a better lawyer than the DA's office?
How many got away with it because (a la OJ) the jury decided the social injustice involved in your skin color mattered more than the fact you brutally slaughtered human beings?
How many DIDN'T get away with it, but then murdered again in prison or after release?
I am a Libertarian. But to get me to fully oppose the death penalty you have to convince me that the ETE risk of false conviction results in more unjust deaths than the ETE risk of false acquittal plus in-prison murders plus post-release murders.
I remain unconvinced.
From a Eugenics standpoint, it doesn't even whether the person is a murderer or not, only whether some asshole with a pair of skull tongs deems someone "unfit.". Moreover, the pseudoscience of Eugenics went upon phenotype as an indicator of "unfitness" and knew nothing about DNA and Genome Mapping.
Also, in actual Evolution, the ultimate trait for "survival of the fittest" for a species is not strength or intelligence, but adaptability over time to changing environmental conditions.
(Interestingly enough, Charles Darwin was anti-Eugenics and Eugenics boards existed side-by-side with laws against teaching Evolution in many U.S. jurisdictions.)
And you know who else was pro-Eugenics, anti-Evolution, and pro-Intelligent Design?
Eugenics has shot it's wad, so to speak, and has nothing credible to add on this or any other subject.
Correction: It doesn't even matter. I sure hope no one deems me "unfit" for missing a word.
Oh, and I meant my message for all, including Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf who brought up Eugenics.
The "You know who else..." formulation only works if it's at the very end of the post. That's malpractice, man.
The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he was a rabid raccoon.
The Devil does not exist, but rabid raccoons do, M'Lady!
*Tips fedora while finishing Guardians of the Galaxy.*
So 80/20 of nothing is 80/20 of nothing? 😉
Billy Preston--Nothing From Nothing
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If a rabid racoon had killed the tow truck driver, it would get 0 chances to appeal roadside summary justice.
Plan on variations of that exact argument to be used to force people to get the COVID vaccine.
AND paid, state-provided appeals attorneys.
Little evidence of Nitrogen Hypoxia's effectiveness? I could point you to hundreds of industrial workers dead every year from sticking their heads into tanks that have been purged with nitrogen but not ventilated yet (note: we have a lot of rules and procedures to stop this but it still happens when people break rules and act like idiots). They go down near-instantly. Often they fall so close to the edge that people try to rescue them and get overcome themselves. Those that are rescued properly wake up with no memory of what happened and most injuries being due to falling over.
It's like lethal injection. We have entire professions dedicated to NOT killing people with nitrogen and injected medicines. It should be easy to just turn it around and do what we say to normally not do. However, activists continually get in the way of quick and effective methods of the death penalty in a backdoor attempt to ban it.
A bullet to the brain is pretty quick, effective and humane. It's just messy and icky. I think that a lot of the modern execution methods are for the comfort of the executioners and the public, not the condemned. If you're going to kill someone, just kill them. Don't try to make it some kind of medical procedure.
Agreed, good points!
Survivable depending on type of bullet at least long enough to be considered inhumane, unless you use something like .50 BMG. Then there's cleanup. No biohazards involved in cleanup with nitrogen asphyxiation.
Use the BFG. Also no cleanup.
I agree with this sentiment.
I oppose killing unless absolutely necessary. "He deserves it" doesn't count as necessary in my book.
If we went with the good old fashioned firing squad or guillotine, support for the death penalty would definitely waver. Moreso if it were televised.
And if humane and messy were requirements, the good old industrial woodchipper would do the trick. Nerve impulses take about half a second to register in the brain... So a big chipper-shredder that cuts everything into one centimeter bits in two tenths of a second would definitionally be painless.
Any opposition to such an obscene method of execution would therefore necessarily be based on the sensibilities of the audience, not the experience of the condemned.
The "little evidence of the method's effectiveness" coming from the magazine that is/was certain the vaccines were the way to herd immunity is some 70-IQ-points-level bullshit.
Well, if not for the fact that COVID was a rapidly mutating disease that had rapidly fading immunity, they would have been right.
Now, we already knew that exposure didn't give hard immunity and we all have experience with influenza, so they should have known better, but it's of the "didn't think about that" level, not "what an idiot" level.
Yeah, I thought that was really odd too. A pure nitrogen atmosphere would unquestionably result in unconsciousness very quickly, and without feeling of suffocation (this comes from CO2 buildup).
This is why inert gases can be so dangerous. As Ben said, people die before they realize anything is wrong.
Hey speaking of this, Switzerland is rolling out a new "suicide pod":
a 3-D-printed pod that its creator says can painlessly end someone’s life in a matter of minutes.
Well, minutes after weeks being of printing and hours of assembly.
I use 3D printers to make sex toys. 3D printer go brrrrrrrr.
Is that what the kids nowadays would call giving and taking the 3-D?
Wow! That would be like a factory-made-to-order orgy! 🙂
This is true. We respond to the increased levels of carbon dioxide in our blood to tell us to take a breath. If we exhale CO2 out into a nitrogen atmosphere, it gets out of the blood and we do not feel that we are not getting enough air, so continue to feel no distress or even pant. We just pass out and die.
Refinery workers are well-schooled on this hazard, because vessels are purged with nitrogen to remove flammable gases before they can be opened to be worked on. The vessels must be checked for oxygen level before entry.
Thanks, I saw that too! So it sure seems the nitrogen (minus oxygen) is a "clean" way to go. (If death can ever be "clean", that is).
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-59577162
Maker of suicide pod plans to launch in Switzerland
Isn't this from a Kurt Vonnegut story? Or maybe Anthony Burgess?
First time I encountered the concept, it was a short story by the much-disrespected Ray Bradbury. Elders had to prove their 'fitness' and if they failed, they got the box. Correction: If the elders CHOSE the box. If they didn't, I think less-pleasant methods were made available.
I may be misremembering, and I am one of those paleolithic artifacts/persons who is content not knowing things, even with google a few clicks away.
(Also, anyone objecting to the "lithic" suffix should be aware I misspent many years being stone.)
Not sure why you need a pod, 3D printed or otherwise. A large plastic bag, a tank of gas, a regulator and a hose pretty much covers it.
But is it "stylish and elegant"?
Or try this:
The stated purpose of government schools is to provide citizens with enough education to participate in society as functioning adults. Obviously that failed with this criminal.
Instead of killing this criminal, find the teachers and school burrocrats who failed to do their duty. If they thought this guy was uneducatable as a student, was it not their duty to keep him in the system, to show him the mercy this judge wants to show him now that it is too late? Should not those teachers and burrocrats be held accountable for letting this monster loose on society, when he obviously was not capable of being a functioning member of society? How did he get out of the school system if he is functionally illiterate?
No 'Qualified Immunity' for anybody, including teachers and bureaucrats! Make 'The Deep State' shallow!
It's funny you mention that. I've had customers tell me in proud, un-hushed tones that they cannot read. I even met one lady who was functionally illiterate in two languages. And we spend $Trillions in Taxdollars to solve this shit???
We spend the $Trillions in Taxdollars to pay off the teachers unions, whose employer cannot go out of business no matter how excessive their demands.
This guy probably just got passed through. I mean, it's not the teachers job to embarrass anyone, now, is it?
I oppose the death penalty but I don’t think the state has an obligation to help people game the system.
If this guy doesn’t have the mental capacity to fill out a form then he doesn’t have the mental capacity to make an informed decision. The default death penalty should apply.
That said. It’s not rocket science to kill someone with nitrogen. The state should figure this out.
They need to make sure they are awarding the contracts to build the gas chamber and source the nitrogen to the right politically-connected firms, you can't just do that overnight you know
Of c9orse not. Rockets use Hydrogen and Oxygen. 😉
If having a below average IQ makes one eligible for ADA protection, then aren't half of Americans ADA protection candidates, by definition? Where is the line drawn; 70 IQ? 80? 30? Why?
CB
Psychologists are a bunch of morons and idiots. Otherwise they would have come up with some kind of classification system that would allow us to easily communicate a person's mental deficiencies.
I see what you did there.
But is it 'acc-thep-table?"
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Man, that's fucking retarded innit?
There is no line per the USSC as linked above.
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The death penalty is inherently inhumane
Locking someone that can't understand a check box in a cage for life is pretty inherently inhumane.
A like from The Wlaking Dead is relevant here: 'Walker' or human, he's still a threat.
Why not more options? Firing squad, hanging, beheading, burnt at the stake, classics.
Where is the slow and painful button?
Right here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8i5_oeu4z8
"It's the Kevorkian-O-Matic from B-B-B-B-BulkHead! It slices! It dices! It makes Julian and Julienne die!"
"You have selected slow and horrible"
"Good choice"
*fingers crossed for 'death by naked chase'*
I suppose "Death by snu-snu" is off the table?
I'll take being run over by a runaway truck.
Not by a "damned ol' train?"
At least he'll hang around as long as you will let him
and he never minded standing in the rain
But you don't have to call him darling, darling
You never even called him by his name
Goodman/Prine/Coe reference?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sco_eBvXGTQ&ab_channel=StephenMcElvain
At least you didn't say "by a Mack Truck." That poor company catches such Hell.
obsolete! obsolete! no state should have the power.
Is the libertarian answer to privatize the death penalty? Families of the victim get to choose a vendor (Pfizer comes to mind easily, I don't know why /s), an injection is made and the inmate's estate pays the bill?
No dice, man. I've used Pfizer twice and the Pfizer booster and it didn't do a damn thing to kill me. "Prolly keep us both alive" as Crosby, Stills, and Nash put it.
Besides, as wonderful as Free-Market Capitalism is, it still has not produced Omniscience and Omnibenevolence, so some things can't be entrusted to Gummint or the Private Sector.
You rang?
if you're not my favorite episode you're in a tie for first
"little evidence of the method's effectiveness"???
Neither this article nor the linked one proved any evidence or even any plausible theory attacking the effectiveness of nitrogen hypoxia. Fill a room with lots of nitrogen and no oxygen and you're going to die. There is no question that it is effective.
Whether it will cause discomfort is a question raised in the linked article but that's a question of the humaneness of the method, not of it's effectiveness.
I'll also note that even the allegations about potential discomfort were not very compelling. While the article is correct that there's relatively little published research either way, we have considerable evidence from industrial accidents supporting the claim that it is quick and relatively painless.
In industrial settings we use the term "dangerously quick and painless".... Meaning you are dead before you figure out what is happening.
The only thing that could be less painful at a theoretical level is to completely stop all neurological activity faster than conscious thought... Maybe two tenths of a second.
So if you could dice the brain into bits smaller than a couple of millimeters in 2 tenths of a second, you would have something.
Oh for Christ's sake. Just kill him. Everybody shut up.
Maybe he's smart enough to wait for the form with "none of the above"?
What would we do without Reason outrage porn?
Good thing Alabama isn't too local.
This poor guy is too stupid to even understand what's happening to him. He's even to stupid to understand that killing people is wrong! He is no more responsible for what he did than a rabid dog is responsible for biting people. We should show him the same compassion we show for rabid dogs.
Of course the question of whether or not the death penalty can be morally justified is not to say that I'd trust the state and it's disgustingly corrupt criminal "justice" system to make the call. For example, I don't know a thing about this case, but I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that the "proof" of his guilt did not rely on video evidence but more on the testimony of the two eyewitnesses to the murder. Two eyewitnesses who knew that unless they fingered the half-wit for the murder, they themselves might be looking at a death sentence. So how hard would it be to frame a half-wit for a murder you yourself committed?
Beheading to discover whether he's rabid? Holy Schrödinger's Cat Box, Batman!
After criticism from Tucker Carlson, Senator Ted Cruz grills FBI's Jill Sandborn about Ray Epps and FBI role in breaching Capitol on Jan 6
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/megan-fox/2022/01/11/if-the-fbi-was-not-involved-in-inciting-violence-on-jan-6-wouldnt-they-just-say-so-n1548632
Defense is using this manufactured issue as a delay tactic.
State should waive the 30 day notice period, have someone read him his options and pick one if he so chooses. Just get on with it already.
I see a lot of comments on here saying that the state shouldn't be empowered to execute people because of (insert reason). The problem I see with that is once you go down that road, then there is no punishment available from the government because of (above reason). A justice system without any penalties sounds suspiciously like the socialist utopia of dreamers in Portland and other left tilted metropolitan areas. Is the libertarian solution to privatize justice (will justice then only be available to the rich?) No solution is perfect. This should be a given, for any situation. But if a viable alternative cannot be provided, is the only recourse to try and tear down what exists? Again that sounds like the socialist utopians claiming everything is (insert -ist/-ism). I don't believe that libertarians are that stark in their refusal of one of the basic functions of government. Once a guilty verdict is rendered, a timetable should be set, which allows time for an affirmative appeal to show reason for reversal. As for the method of death, anything which is quick and efficient should be fine. I never encountered an inmate within the DOC who took their victims level of discomfort into account when robbing/assaulting/raping/murdering them.
But if a viable alternative cannot be provided, is the only recourse to try and tear down what exists?
*Abjectly* and maybe more importantly, without any notion of the already omnipresent and obvious consequences.
It would be one thing if they were calling for a teardown, or just a dial back, because of someone who was falsely accused of a rape and murder or based on falsified evidence or prosecutorial misconduct or whatever, but as it stands in this case, the argument is that we should tear down the justice system because we might execute someone with the emotional intelligence and violent temperament of a poorly trained dog. As usual, but not always, with Reason's reporting on the topic, there are very valid reasons to dial back and tear down the justice system, this is not the case you're looking for.
Moreover, as has been pointed out here at Reason multiple times, if you lower the maximum punishment for a crime (in the US) frequently, prosecutors and judges will hand out the maximum sentence more out-of-hand. Foregoing the death sentence to wind up imprisoning more kids of assault at school and more mostly peaceful protesters of insurrection is not an enhancement of justice.
I'm opposed to the state killing people.
Unfortunately, some people NEED to be killed, and sometimes it's clear enough that I have no problem with it. This is one of those cases.
An IQ of 70 isn't an issue -- he was smart enough to know what he was doing, and to know that it was wrong.
Um... he was too stupid to understand the election form, but smart enough to to sue the state? Sure.
OK , it's obvious it was his lawyers who sued the state. But why didn't *they* know about the election form? Pretty convenient, no?
Bit of trivia, the great state of West Virginia abolished the death penalty in the mid 60s. So if your state still has it, congratulations, in this one very important metric your state is more regressive than 1960s West Virginia.
I'm pretty sure the sense of smug satisfaction you get from making that "point" is reduced not at all by the fact that it is not universally agreed upon.
It would be surprising if anyone who, contrary to controlling precedent, thinks that “the death penalty is inherently inhumane” could objectively evaluate the merits of the claim before Judge Huffaker. Indeed, it is just such a person who could be expected to momentarily forget that all deadlines are “artificial” in order to trash Alabama for settling on a 30-day deadline in the current context.
But it not too much for readers of Reason (and Reason own editors) to expect that anyone who undertakes to address this matter in print would first inform himself more fully than Mr. Lancaster has managed.
1. “Botched executions” are not what led drug manufacturers to refuse to supply sedatives for lethal injection cocktails.” Rather, it was “anti-death-penalty advocates” who “pressured pharmaceutical companies” to run that form of interference on the administration of justice. Glossip v Gross, 576 U.S. 863 (2015).
2. As other commenters have pointed at some length, it is simply false to say that “no evidence that nitrogen hypoxia will accomplish what its supporters claim.” More to the point, perhaps, the assumption that nitrogen hypoxia is “most humane manner possible” is what supplies the predicate for the author’s insistence that allowing prisoners to select that method is “the least [the government] can do.” If there were “no evidence” on that nitrogen could be deployed in the manner Alabama and other states contemplate, the article, even on its own terms, would make no sense.
the great state of West Virginia abolished the death penalty in the mid 60s. So if your state still has it, congratulations, in this one very important metric your state is more regressive than 1960s West Virginia.
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Hi JosiahS sock!
"Despite little evidence of the method's effectiveness,"
I invite the author to breathe an atmosphere of pure Nitrogen for ten minutes and then report back on its effectiveness.
I'm sure there would be no complaints.
That is what happens when your driving motivation for writing the article is not "this method of carrying out the death penalty is bad" but that "the death penalty is bad". You just throw assertions against the wall to see what sticks. It is an inherently dishonest form of argument.
First, 25 years for the sentence basically is way to long. 20 years of appeals is crazy. Speedy trail right?
I see a lot of people on here say "state' can't be trusted with the death penalty. I understand those reasons.
Two questions - isn't a jury involved? They found him guilty and know what the penalty is.
Second - let's take this example - he killed someone no-one is arguing that. He stood trial, had multiple appeals etc. You don't kill him. Then what? Life in prison as a drain on resources? He's not a productive member of society, he's actually a danger.
Yes, I understand mistakes, put what is the actually number. No one seems to care about the victims here or that he took someone's life but gets to have his.
No, I don't have the answer. Just trying to have stuff to think on.
First, long ago Athenian lawmaker Draco (of "draconian" fame) gets credit for making Athenians more law-abiding. Instead of citizens pursuing justice individually (aka "vendettas"), the state undertook to punish the offender. The state executing severe offenders replaced individuals seeking to kill offenders in revenge.
Second, a person doesn't have to look too far to find people who have deserved the death penalty they got. We can start with many many Nazis guilty of crimes during WWII.
How about a massive heroin overdose? People do that voluntarily all the time. That would be a form of lethal injection, wouldn't it?
The method is effective and painless.
Even on people who are illiterate and have an IQ of 70 (neither of which reduces anybody's legal culpability).
I fail to see a problem.