Is Censuring a Legislator a First Amendment Violation?
"The First Amendment was never intended to curtail speech and debate within legislative bodies."

In 2018, the Houston Community College (HCC) System Board of Trustees, a nine-member elected body, censured one of its own members for "inappropriate conduct." According to that trustee, the reprimand violated his right to freedom of speech. This term the U.S. Supreme Court is considering the merits of that claim in Houston Community College System v. Wilson.
Trustee David Buren Wilson objected to some of the HCC board's decisions, including its vote to fund a campus in Qatar. Wilson voiced his displeasure in local news outlets, published a website that cataloged his criticisms, orchestrated a robocall campaign against the board, hired a private investigator to probe the HCC and a fellow trustee, and sued the board four times. After the board censured him, he sued again, this time on free speech grounds.
In April 2020, a three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit agreed with Wilson that "a reprimand against an elected official for speech addressing a matter of public concern is an actionable First Amendment claim." That ruling did not sit well with eight other 5th Circuit judges, who later argued that a full sitting of the appellate court should have reheard the case.
Judge Edith Jones, joined by Judges Don Willett, James Ho, Kyle Duncan, and Andrew Oldham, faulted the panel for upending freedom of speech. "The First Amendment was never intended to curtail speech and debate within legislative bodies," Jones wrote. "Fellow legislators may strike hard verbal blows, and all's fair when they exercise corporate authority to censure or reprimand one of their members; such actions are not a violation of the First Amendment, but its embodiment in partisan politics."
Writing separately, Ho said "the First Amendment guarantees freedom of speech, not freedom from speech." He then told Wilson to stop being such a crybaby. "Leaders don't fear being booed," he wrote. "And they certainly don't sue when they are."
A majority of the Supreme Court may well heed those 5th Circuit dissenters. As the HCC points out in its principal brief, "Some public speech by an individual legislator may well provoke a public censure by the body's current majority, speaking in the name of the institution itself. When it does, both statements are part of the cycle of speech and counter-speech that the First Amendment seeks to foster, not constrain."
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Of course it is, as is an NDA.
An inalienable right is one that cannot be given or taken away by anyone.
That means an NDA is not enforceable.
You mean like European Jews in Hitler-times also had inalienable rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, as some rights that cannot be given or taken away by anyone?
But they WERE taken away from them! How "inalienable" is THAT? WHAT does "inalienable" mean, then, that's worth a damn to anyone?
(IMHO, the only "right" here that IS actually "inalienable", so long as you remain bodily able, is the right to fight back!)
Inalienable means that the rights can be violated, but not taken away.
Why are you talking to yourself?
He skipped his meds again.
If you have nothing sincere to contribute, no claim to prove or refute, why do you even bother shitposting?
An NDA is a private contract that basically says that if the signing party exercises free speech on a covered topic they agree to pay up.
Agreed! Tech development would be hindered without them (NDAs)! Rob Misek is full of crappy-poo as is so often the case...
"The right to write enforceable private contracts" (excluding illegal acts like murder) is, itself, a fundamental right. I am allowed to agree NOT to run my mouth, as part of a contract! Misek doesn't want to allow me to do that as part of a contract! Go figure!
You’re saying that competition hinders progress.
The inalienable right is free speech, not paying and persecution for speaking.
I can see how that would confuse you.
"the First Amendment guarantees freedom of speech, not freedom from speech."
Tell the to facebook and twitter.
the = that, of course.
The First Amendment guarantees freedom of speech from restraint by the government. Publicly-funded universities are considered arms of the government, making the case above against the Board of Trustees at least vaguely plausible. The last I checked, however, Facebook and Twitter were still private companies. While private suppression of free speech is unethical and deplorable and a perfectly legitimate reason to boycott those companies, it is not a violation of the First Amendment.
Now, if you have specific evidence of collusion or undue influence that turned those private companies into proxies of the government, you might have a case. But that will require more evidence than has been clearly presented so far.
That said, I agree wholeheartedly with Geiger's reply (which I should have read before posting). The loss of the value of free speech is far more worrying than any specific infringements of it.
A censure is only speech AFAIK. I didn't see anything that they were being docked pay or per diems. Let them censure the guy, it shows who they are (bunch of big government bureaucrats looking out for themselves instead of the people they're supposed to serve).
Frankly, why is a government supported college opening a campus in a foreign nation? That looks like government officials expanding their budget and fiefdom (with trips there being necessary) at taxpayer expense to allegedly benefit foreigners.
There are US Forces and other US Officials in a hundred countries that receive access to higher education through the Community Colleges of the (Air Force, Army, etc...) system would be one reason.
Spreading Western Civilization amongst heathens another; winning hearts and minds don't ya know?
"Is Censuring a Legislator a First Amendment Violation?"
If so, and if we insist one strict obedience to this interpretation, then... May I even DARE to "censure" a sitting legislator by NOT re-electing him or her? Are legislators now, at last, our omnipotent rulers? If NO ONE may "censure" them for lies, fraud, and malevolence, then THIS is where we're at!
Reprimands are free speech too. However, something like taking away a legislator's committee assignments, for example, as punishment is a violation and "destroys democracy."
It seems rather random that HCC is funding a campus in Qatar. Are they sister cities or did someone just need a way to funnel money to a cousin out of the country?
It being Houston, I speculate some combination of oil and a case of wanting to legitimize the 4th-largest city in the country as a big player on an international stage, instead of the shithole that it really is.
Yes and yes.
People were a bit up in arms about it when it got on the news. HCC is a local community college. Great campuses. Lots of utility. However, it's not even a full university. Even if we were going to be pushing things internationally, it should be UH, not HCC.
And yes, suspicions of bribery or corruption were widely mentioned every time it was discussed.
Here's the college
https://jobs.ccq.edu.qa/
Absolutely it is. You don't lose your 1st Amendment rights just because you're elected as a representative. If you're using your position as a public figure to defame or threaten people, those actions aren't protected by free speech anyway.
So of course tweeting out an animated video showing yourself fighting your political opponents shouldn't result in being censured.
Oh wait, this has nothing to do with Paul Gosar?
I had to look it up... Now that I did, it sounds familiar. I just didn't recognize the name.
https://www.theledger.com/story/opinion/columns/2021/11/22/politics-can-divisive-but-rep-paul-gosars-cartoon-crossed-line/8668349002/
https://sports.yahoo.com/anime-clip-gop-rep-paul-130856092.html
Whoa! Makes me think of Hairy Pothead and pals flying on brooms and playing Quidditch!!!
I think it's a matter of what "censure" means. I'm not sure it's just speech. "Inappropriate behavior" reads like a factual charge, not a matter of opinion.
did he misspell censor?
My censor-sensing device senses censorshit and my censure-sensing device senses censureshit, and so I just don't know any moah!!! They MIGHT both be low on batteries! I am temped to batter their faulty batteries, but then I might be CHARGED with battery, by my uncharged batteries!
I think I will just settle for censoring and censuring the both of them! Let lying sensors lie!
The en banc decision is obviously correct on the abstract issue. A court enjoining an entity from censuring a member for speech would be literally saying that entity cannot speak in response to speech. That's definitely wrong.
It could be a different matter if the censure entailed a fine, or some kind of government infringement on a right.
The relevant legal test is usually procedural due process. Assuming we're talking about a public (governmental) body, the plaintiff must have a protected life, liberty, or property interest that is being infringed by a government actor. Hypothetically, being officially censured as a no-good-very-bad-man-in-the-opinion-of-this-body is not such a court-cognizable injury. It can't be such an injury in this country because of the First Amendment.
This case may get churned in the facts, because evidently the censure included an end to travel reimbursements and restrictions on holding office within the organization. Nobody has a right to those things (they're clearly privileges granted by the organization) but to the extent this censure, as a factual matter, operated to not reimburse him for an existing big travel bill or something, it is indistinguishable from a fine and procedural due process rights may be at issue.
There's an added issue here in that the panel and en banc Fifth Circuit were resolving a motion to dismiss, on lack of injury grounds. If the censure was, in itself, legally defamatory, that fits within the exception to the First Amendment's effective, general ban on your-speech-hurt-me claims.
The easier resolution is what most groups are calling for and most courts tend to do. Hold that a (governmental) deliberative body issuing a censure is acting in its proprietary capacity. So if it's a legislature, it generally has immunity from suit for its legislative acts. And the court would be holding that a legislature censuring a member is a legislative act. In doing so, the court would let that be the protection barring such claims.
But if they get past whatever procedural bar or party immunity, the line should still be your-speech-hurt-me claims are substantively barred by the First Amendment in the vast majority of cases - it would have to be actual defamation, "fighting words," etc. Not just: you hurt my feelings, and I disagree, and here's my lawyer.
Oh and Reason, when you want to report on a court opinion, let alone quote from it, you really should provide a link. I expect the complete failure to mention or highlight potentially dispositive facts and issues, you're not legal reporters, but the lack of sourcing is both unforgivable and ridiculously common among reporters.
Oh, my bad, they didn't rehear it en banc. The three judge Fifth Circuit panel is what's on appeal. The dissenters from rehearing en banc are the "obviously correct" group I was referring to.
The censure wasn't limited to speech. Quoting from the decision,
"Starting in 2017, Wilson criticized the other trustees, alleging that they had violated the Board’s bylaws, and made various other criticisms of the Board. As a result, the Board censured Wilson and barred him from holding officer positions on the Board or from receiving travel reimbursements."
The censure itself is certainly speech, but the penalties would not be. And they were penalties for engaging in speech.
David Wilson should post a deepfaked porn showing him fucking the other eight board members.
Let me go back to a logically-prior issue: how does the federal court get to hear appeals of legislative (or Congressional) discipline cases?
I know how - because the Supreme Court allows it.
But the Supreme Court doesn't allow federal courts to hear appeals from the legislature (or Congress) when it conducts impeachments.
So how do we differentiate between the two cases?
The Supreme Court ought to say, "the federal courts aren't supposed to be hearing appeals from decisions made by legislatures when they're handling their own members' behavior or hearing impeachments." In those two situations, maybe Congress *could* pass a law allowing such appeals, but I don't think they've passed such a law.
When a state legislative body acts in an administrative capacity (eg, zoning), then I can see why judicial review is called for, but dealing judicially with cases involving impeachments or their own members?
Show how the Supreme Court's distinctions make sense.
That should go down with all of the other memorable patriotic quotes (which will soon be disappeared down the memory hole) like "give me liberty or give me death." The best part of it was watching the expressions on the audience's faces when he said it while accepting the Mark Twain Prize.