Joe Manchin Drives Final Nail Into Doomed 'Build Back Better' Plan. For Now.
Plus: The pragmatic approach to omicron is emerging, lumber prices are skyrocketing again, and more...

Sen. Joe Manchin (D–W.Va.), who has spent months outlining various reasons why he does not support President Joe Biden's "Build Back Better" plan, said on Sunday that he does not support Biden's "Build Back Better" plan.
"I cannot vote to continue with this piece of legislation. I just can't," Manchin told Fox News in an interview. "This is a 'no' on this legislation."
In case anyone was still confused about where Manchin stands, the senator also released a lengthy statement helpfully explaining why he was driving the final nail into a proposal that has never enjoyed support from a majority of the U.S. Senate.
"My Democratic colleagues in Washington are determined to dramatically reshape our society in a way that leaves our country even more vulnerable to the threats we face. I cannot take that risk with a staggering debt of more than $29 trillion and inflation taxes that are real and harmful to every hard-working American at the gasoline pumps, grocery stores, and utility bills with no end in sight," Manchin said in that statement. He also pointed to the fact that the Congressional Budget Office says the bill would cost far more if many of its temporary provisions are made permanent, and accused the bill's supporters of trying "to camouflage the real cost of the intent behind this bill."
Congress is the sort of place where what is dead may never die, and there will almost certainly be attempts to resurrect parts of the "Build Back Better" plan next year or later. By Sunday night, Sen. Ron Wyden (D–Ore.) had already released a slimmed-down version of the proposal. But the White House's response to Manchin's comments on Sunday suggests that the negotiating well has been poisoned for now.
???? @PressSec: "Senator Manchin's comments this morning on FOX are at odds with his discussions this week with the President, with White House staff, and with his own public utterances." pic.twitter.com/ExosBSJrbC
— Alex Thomas (@AlexHouseThomas) December 19, 2021
The "Build Back Better" plan has gone through several iterations this year. The current form is a $1.75 trillion package—though, as Manchin notes, the actual cost is more than double that when budget gimmicks are ignored—that would greatly expand the size of government to help defer the cost of child care, health care, and living in states with high taxes. It passed the House last month in a party-line vote.
It's certainly fair to point out—as some progressives have—that Manchin's fiscal conservatism is applied somewhat unevenly. Manchin was one of the 88 senators to vote last week in favor of the National Defense Authorization Act, which sets the Pentagon's budget at $770 billion next year. Even without any future increases—and those will definitely happen, no matter which party controls Washington—that means the Pentagon is on pace to receive about $7.7 trillion over the next decade.
Yes, it would be preferable for Manchin to apply this level of scrutiny to all spending decisions. Heck, it would be preferable for everyone in Congress (and the media) to scrutinize routine, recurring spending as closely as they've watched the crafting of the "Build Back Better" plan.
But Manchin's opposition to Biden's spending plan has been consistent for months. The Biden administration and its allies have done virtually nothing to address his primary objections: that the bill will add to America's unsteady pile of debt, and that its true cost is being hidden by gimmicks.
Still, Manchin's comments on Sunday set off the expected unhinged reactions. Jennifer Rubin, The Washington Post's nominally conservative columnist, declared democracy to be "hanging by a thread"—even though this seems like a pretty clear-cut example of the majority getting its way. Perhaps the true lesson here is that enacting sweeping policy changes with the smallest possible Senate majority, as Democrats are trying to do, is pretty difficult. That's by design!
Let's be clear about this. The "Build Back Better" plan's apparent demise is not the result of a breakdown in the democratic process or deliberate sabotage by the senator from West Virginia. What's been lacking for months is an affirmative case for the bill's passage that could convince 50 senators plus the vice president to support it. There was no moment in this entire year when the plan, in all its various forms and permutations, had the support of a simple majority of the U.S. Senate—the bare minimum required to pass bills into law.
In short, what Manchin said on Sunday didn't doom Biden's huge domestic spending plan. It was never anything but doomed. Manchin merely provided some closure.
Don't blame Manchin for BBB's demise. If Congress actually had a robust debate and amendment process, this would have been sorted out months ago. Having the oligarchy write a bill and then twist arms has always been, and will always be, unrepresentative, stupid, and dangerous.
— Justin Amash (@justinamash) December 19, 2021
FREE MINDS
A pragmatic approach to dealing with the latest COVID-19 surge is emerging. Here's what Colorado Gov. Jared Polis (D), who continues to chart an independent course through the latest round of COVID-19 hysteria, told Meet the Press on Sunday:
Polis continues to go his own way pic.twitter.com/z3cvpOM0sl
— Alex Thompson (@AlexThomp) December 19, 2021
The New York Times notes that Polis, along with Govs. Larry Hogan (R) of Maryland and Phil Murphy (D) of New Jersey, has been the most vocal in opposing new mandates and economic restrictions amid the surge of COVID-19 cases in recent weeks.
Meanwhile, the NFL announced a new testing and quarantine regime that effectively acknowledges COVID-19 is an endemic issue. That's a key shift—even if it happened only after the league was forced to postpone some games this weekend because an overwhelming number of positive tests left a few teams unable to field full rosters.
BREAKING: #NFL announces new Covid-19 protocols:
- Fully vaccinated/ asymptomatic players/ staff don't have to test weekly. (Those unvaccinated still test)
- High risk players who wish to opt out of season have until 2pm ET Monday.
- Enhanced symptom screening
— Kayla Burton (@Kay_Breezy22) December 18, 2021
And it's a shift that may outline the way forward for the rest of America, too.
"Successfully navigating the next wave of the coronavirus pandemic requires charting a middle course—one designed with clear goals in mind: preventing deaths, protecting our hospitals from crushing caseloads, and keeping schools and businesses open. We can do this with the proven, effective tools we already have, while giving in to neither dismay nor dismissal," writes Ashish K. Jha, a physician and the dean of the Brown University School of Public Health, in The Atlantic.
FREE MARKETS
Lumber prices are surging again due to inflation and supply chain issues, with the price for 1,000 board feet of wood doubling since November. The Wall Street Journal reports:
Lumber prices have a way to go before they threaten the records set in spring, when futures hit $1,711.20. Still, lumber prices with a comma were unimaginable before the lockdown, when mills were caught off guard by do-it-yourself and home-building booms and all the decks needed to facilitate outdoor dining.
Analysts and traders say conditions are ripe for prices to keep climbing through winter, as they often do ahead of the spring building season.
Another contributing factor: U.S. tariffs on lumber imported from Canada, which the Biden administration doubled last month.
QUICK HITS
• The New York Times published Pentagon documents related to more than 1,300 reports of civilian casualties caused by U.S. drone strikes in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria.
• Sens. Elizabeth Warren (D–Mass.) and Cory Booker (D–N.J.) announced that they have tested positive for COVID-19.
• White House COVID-19 adviser Anthony Fauci says you'll be wearing masks on planes for the rest of your life:
On ABC News' "This Week":
KARL: "Are we ever going to get to a point where we won't need to wear masks on airplanes?"
FAUCI: "I don't think so. I think when you're dealing with a closed space… you want to take that extra step."
— Josh Kraushaar (@JoshKraushaar) December 19, 2021
• The new Spider-Man movie became the first film released during the pandemic to earn more than $100 million in its opening weekend. It pulled in nearly $250 million in the United States, the third-largest opening weekend in Hollywood's history.
• Oreo cookies are the secret weapon in New York City's new war on rats.
• Network Effect, Martha Wells' novel about a sentient artificial intelligence known by the cuddly nickname "Murderbot," was named best novel at the 2021 Hugo Awards, which annually honor the best science fiction writing. (A personal recommendation for Two Truths and a Lie, which won the Hugo Award for best novelette and is one of the most unsettling things I've read this year.)
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... said on Sunday that he does not support Biden's "Build Back Better" plan.
The most effective Republican in the Senate.
Now that you manchin it, he is.
joe better believe it.
They are just Biden thier time.
If only we had actual, consistent libertarians, we could call the defeat Dismantle Washington Evil Even Better.
Broke Back Bullshit.
Manchin for D ticket 2024.
Jesus, not Shillary.
Of course since hes outed as fiscal....gasp...CONSERVATIVE.....
theyd never front him.
Maybe he could be catalyst for kicking the radical Prog Mob out and recreating a real Democrat party.
Fuck Joe Biden
Manchin did!
So, opposing absolutely insane, unsustainable spending now makes one conservative? This is not good.
Conservatives are 60's liberals. American "liberals" are 30's socialists.
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But he's got the joementum.
Until the coast is clear for some real Government Harrisment
Technically 50 others also voted no. Weird how both sides are building the narrative of Manchin being the sole no vote stopping Biden.
Manchin will allow a bigger budget in FY22 however in response to attacks from his side, so this is a shallow victory at best. He has never stood strong on the budget process.
He was also instrumental in getting McConnell and 13 other idiots on board for the debt ceiling increase past the elections to help democrats out during the 22 election cycle. This praising of Manchin is weird.
Reminds me of the old Chris Rock bit of get praise for shit youre supposed to do.
All I know is that Boehm the Birdbrain voted for Brain-damaged Biden.
Twitter didn't sent Mancin to the Senate to block Biden's workers' utopian agenda, or to ask what's best for West Virginia residents and the nation as a whole. The Dems have a 48-vote majority in the Senate, and 46 of them are fully on board with spending whatever Biden asks for, so why are Mancin (and sometimes Sinema) so intent on impeding democracy?
that was a lame ass attempt at reframing. FAIL
THAT aint democracy.
Try Autocracy
I was just paraphrasing actual progressive arguments against Mancin and Sinema from a month or two ago.
I love it that nobody even remembers that there's technically only 48 Democrats in the Senate. I don't know why Sanders and King are maintaining the pretense at this point.
Weird how both sides are building the narrative of Manchin being the sole no vote stopping Biden.
Is that what's happening? Seems to me that he's just the weakest vote opposing Biden, so he gets the attention. None of the Republican would conceivably vote for it. Manchin seems to be the only D willing to go against it. And it's a damn good thing, even if he's not going to continue to be the voice of fiscal restraint forever.
In politics, a lot of people believe that "what you are supposed to do" is be loyal to your party. So at least he isn't doing that. It's OK to praise people narrowly for doing one good thing.
Look at leftist Twitter. Comments saying they voted biden as president, not Manchin abound.
It’s like they don’t know we live in a republic.
Or don’t care.
It's insane that they're angry the legislature has to pass laws. The slide toward tyranny continues.
What's been lacking for months is an affirmative case for the bill's passage that could convince 50 senators plus the vice president to support it.
How could a single senator hold up legislation against the other 99?
I love the Democrats whining about that.
"It's unfair that one Senator can kill this legislation"...ignoring that it is 51 Senators killing it.
"Et tu, Josephe?"
For Democrats, Republican senators, like Republican (and other than D voters), are not really people.
Oddly enough, the bipartisan nay vote is not Bipartisan.
sarc was arguing with Ken for weeks, claiming the support for the bill was bi-partisan, but then sarc is a fucking idiot.
sarc’s alcoholism needs support from multiple parties.
Jesus, don't you people have anything better to pay attention to than sarcasmic?
We pay attention to plenty. He is just a peackocking piece of shit pretending he is a victim. He deserves the shit he gets.
He derails discussions just like jeff, spb, or white Mike. They serve derision.
But he's begging for attention, Zeb.
He isn't acting like a cog from the box of cogs he came from. It's like pulling out a 1/4" inch bolt to find out it is a 7mm. Motherfk.
MAYBE the 99 are doing something called LISTENING TO REASON.
Of course with regard to Con- gress,
( emphasis on con) you might be right to laugh at that suggestion.
Or maybe as Michael Moore said, the D party is dead and maybe theyre looking for a new Captain.
Here's what Colorado Gov. Jared Polis (D), who continues to chart an independent course through the latest round of COVID-19 hysteria, told Meet the Press on Sunday...
Let's see how he holds the line against a united national press clutching massaged case numbers.
The united national press clutch pearl necklaces.
It would have to be cryogenically cold to clamp a pearl necklace that results from a massage. I don't think even the biggest, strongest, burliest "Polar Bears" could manage that.
The Denver media have been absolutely beside themselves over Polis refusing to put a mask mandate or any other restrictions back in place. It's been hilarious to watch and shows just how useless and unserious these people really are.
" vaccine useless"
NOW what.
"Unfucking real"
.Andy Dick in Hebrew Hammer.
Another contributing factor: U.S. tariffs on lumber imported from Canada, which the Biden administration unconstitutionally and illegally doubled last month.
FTFY. No Taxation without Representation!
How did Trump make Biden do that?
I blame Tip O'Neill for the both of them.
He stood over him with a tut-tutting finger, like he use with Putin, and said: "Keep the tariffs or no bigly huge beautiful bowl of pudding for you! No, no!"
One thing the US actually needs, homes to be built, and the Dems are doubling tariffs on lumber? I guess that is one way to keep the fuckers from fleeing California. Make sure the price everywhere else doubles.
Build Back More Expensively is coming along nicely.
Damnit, did I miss the war with Canada?!
We've always been at war with Canada, eh?
If we’re really lucky the Brit’s will burn the White House again.
HELL YES
Bar the doors…from the outside.
Take off, you hoser. 😉
Bob & Doug McKenzie | Take Off [feat. Geddy Lee] (HQ)
https://youtu.be/3-bAMoZtzy0
Its too bad Rush didnt do a movie with Bob and Doug Mc Kenzie...
That was one of Rushes best works.
The Aroostook War.
So now the Dems want to give Canada seats in Congress?
Why not?
We were able to vote in your last election with mail-in ballots, so why not formalize it.
Successfully navigating the next wave of the coronavirus pandemic requires charting a middle course—one designed with clear goals in mind: preventing deaths, protecting our hospitals from crushing caseloads, and keeping schools and businesses open.
So mandating physical fitness and outlawing certificates on need?
No fatties.
Tax excess body mass. It's a win-win. And think of the JOBS!!
Fat tax. Brilliant.
From each according to his his adipocytes, to each according to his anorexia.
Well said.
Now that you mention it, does the "healthy at any weight!" propaganda count as Medial Misinformation?
In reality, yes. Social media? Good lord no.
In reality, yes. Social media? Good
lordlard no.In reality people want to be accepted as sexy at any weight.
Bourbon and light switches can help with this.
Just not the same.
Exercise and diet are weapons of mass destruction.
Thanks for the chuckle
They really did a piss poor job of naming Certificates of Need. If anyone ever decides to stand against them the acronym for the bill is too easy....Anti-CON bill, which is exactly what it would be.
Unfortunately, there will never come a day when politicians are able to tear themselves away from Medical/Hospital lobby dollars for long enough to pass something like that.
I hate to be pedantic, but Shhhh...Government might outlaw Certificates Of Need while still requiring them. Then nothing in Medicine will ever get done.
Better to repeal the requirement for Certificates Of Need. And remember the bright bulbs we're dealing with here.
But the box said they were 100 watt equivalent.
THeyve been dropped too many times
Damaged goods...
Just dropped once and now we are all exposed to mercury.
Lumber prices are surging again due to inflation and supply chain issues...
Time to load of the truck.
Weird swap of prepositions.
Moving to Beverly is not an better option in this case...or any, really.
Same lies as 2012.
Inflation + a percent or 3.
Prives up 100-300 %
Someonez lying
"Lumber prices are surging again due to inflation"
Nope. Inflation is a wingut.com myth.
#DefendBidenAtAllCosts
Except for smokeless tobacco.
Which has increased by a mere ten cents per pouch.
#JustStopBuyingIt
One supposes that a pedophile/pederast needs a big ol' lipper in while beatin' the bishop to to kiddie porn and writing ignorant lefty talking points and ranting here.
This one doesn't like thinking about it. Any one of those elements are sickening.
Soaring lumber prices leave pedophilic inflation deniers stumped.
That's a splinter group.
They are going against the grain.
I saw these puns coming and I refuse to join in.
You getting board of them?
I think I nailed it in my first response. Good day.
Some pine for comments that do knot contain puns feeling it would spruce the place up. I don’t believe this is a poplar opinion.
You wood.
Chipper!
Fir shure, fir shure.
The cherry on top
At what point do we say knotty, knotty; that's enough. Then again what else would we birch about?
Chumby and Utkonos are the Ebony and Ivory of punnery. Oh wait, I'm bringing animal by-products into the pun.
Oh ignore the lumber inflation hype! Just run of the mill stuff here, nothing to get at loggerheads over!
Yeah! It's not like Chawin' Terbacky grows on trees.
Sens. Elizabeth Warren (D–Mass.) and Cory Booker (D–N.J.) announced that they have tested positive for COVID-19.
The sluts.
Beat me to it. I believe they both were fully vaccinated?
If only there were fewer unvaxxed, they wnever
Never* would have been infected because the not-vaccine only is effective when everyone has it. Yes.
This “vaccine” is funky, and does seem, from my limited perspective, to only work to any real capacity when everyone involved is vaccinated. Which really makes this a stopgap, and not a real solution.
On a recent business trip, 6 of the 8 who went, all vaccinated, caught it. No one knows the source. Someone could have brought it, but since everyone’s symptoms came about within a day, it seems they all caught it there.
In the house, the youngest, unvaccinated succumbed after 8 days. But the other 2 in the house, both vaccinated, have gone unscathed so far. I know I haven’t limited contact at all.
So clearly the vaccinated can catch it, and they can pass it on. But it seems like the vaccinated may not be spewing out enough germs to overcome others who are also vaccinated. Of course this is but a single anecdotal case, but it’s the best data point I have because I’m currently experiencing it.
Like I've said, this "vaccine" is clearly a therapeutic treatment that doesn't actually prevent infections even in highly vaccinated environments. Imagine polio or smallpox outbreaks where the "vaccinated" suffered from mild symptoms, and that's how much of a curve these mRNA therapies are being graded on.
Viral loads are completely comparable whether you've been poked or not.
Read, can't remember which paper, both vaccinated and had booster shots. All praise The Science!
Multiple sources reported that. It went viral last night.
Im Fully Unvacvinated
So THERE!
Sens. Karen (D–Mass.) and Spartacus (D–N.J.) announced that they have tested positive for COVID-19.
Fixed.
Nice....you nailed them.
It must be all those unclean red neck anti-vaxxers she socializes with at cocktail parties.
Did you just redefine the term “spreader event?” Ewww
Kamala meeting Willie.
I REFUSE to visualize—that imagery SUCKS!
White House COVID-19 adviser Anthony Fauci says you'll be wearing masks on planes for the rest of your life...
THE SCIENCE HAS DECREED IT
This is a guy who's name is attached to a paper a decade ago stating masks are ineffective with viruses.
"There's no reason for it. It's just our policy."
"Also, we like to fuck with people."
This is also the guy attached to science saying to keep babies away from peanuts causing an explosion of serious peanut allergies.
But now a paper mask that can't stop anything but breathing is required IN ADDITION to HEPA filtration?
I wouldn't believe that guy if he said today was Monday.
And don't forget the puppy torture. How does he still have a job, and his freedom?
RIMSHOT!!
At some point, when the jig is up, Fauci may follow s ratline to South America to attempt to hide from war criminal prosecutors.
Am willing to wager that if he runs, and takes an independent-owned ship, the crew will pitch him overboard during a storm.
I believe the U boat crew will be loyal to the cause.
It will be his fault. That outcome is completely Fauciable
Along with Emperor Xi and minions in the PLA and CCP.
For economy’s sake, let’s just refer to that whole cabal as FauXi
Very good. And for all of our economies' sakes, let's put them all on trial for Crimes Against Humanity.
If Fauci and Schumer see a news camera at the same time, their struggle to be first in front of it might splinter the universe.
FFS, would someone please feed this asshole into a woodchipper, already?
I think when you're dealing with a closed space… you want to take that extra step.
That level of risk aversion should have to not setting foot on that airplane in the first place.
A closed space with the most effective filtration on the planet.
"Sens. Elizabeth Warren (D–Mass.) and Cory Booker (D–N.J.) announced that they have tested positive for COVID-19."
I blame Gov. Ron DeSantis (R–Florida).
#DeathSantis
Not Trump?
Trumphausen by proxy
DeSantis….(BA)……Trump….(DA) Why not just…(Cue full orchestra)….. BLAME FLORIDA….(Same tune as Blame Canada, full lyrics up to you guys)
Who?
Helen! We've got an owl out here in the hall!
That Grandpa Fred was a real hoot!
Does it violate the NAP to be rooting for covid in this situation?
It could be viewed as a sort of cure to cancer.
The new Spider-Man movie became the first film released during the pandemic to earn more than $100 million in its opening weekend.
Super web spreader event.
Inter-net totals were good.
I would have gone with mass web shooting incident.
THWIP!
And least all the Spider-Men were wearing masks.
Spider man is gender centric
Isnt das VERBOTEN now?
Manchin ... accused the bill's supporters of trying "to camouflage the real cost of the intent behind this bill."
And the bill's supporters immediately responded with a detailed exposition of the real cost of the intent, right? RIGHT?!
They blamed it on Big Meat.
White house out out a press release calling the CBO score without sunsets fake because democrats would never stop sunsets from happening.
Did they promise?
No, they just couldn't believe they couldn't be trusted despite decades of them voting to extend sunset clauses.
They swore on the promise to close the border if Reagan granted amnesty.
What does "cost of the intent" mean? Do intentions cost anything?
They have cost many citizens their jobs and their freedom, so far.
As was the intent.
Oreo cookies are the secret weapon in New York City's new war on rats.
They're just going to breed super rats that prefer Hydrox.
those things were vile
Still better than Oreos, though.
Go sit in the corner.
Sens. Elizabeth Warren (D–Mass.) and Cory Booker (D–N.J.) announced that they have tested positive for COVID-19.
No wonder. Have you ever seen them wearing a mask?
More importantly, have you ever seen either of them together at the same time.
What does Booker look like in a wig and glasses? *strokes chin*
Senator Warren would never masquerade as a person of color.
*winner*
And, if she mistakenly filled out the form indicating she was a 'POC,' she would never done so in order to receive preferential treatment or hiring consideration. Liz Warren is a serious and honest person who never misrepresents data, uses inflammatory rhetoric, smears those she dislikes, or utters an untrue word.
or intelligence...
Sens. Elizabeth Warren (D–Mass.) and Cory Booker (D–N.J.) announced that they have tested positive for COVID-19.
It's the latest Progressive status symbol. Like having a transgender child.
I always HOPED it was a mask….
How can a book about Barack Obama win a fiction award?
It is a dog eat, dog world.
Is it about his Nobel Peace Prize?
The weekend of drunk rage from sarc was amazing this weekend.
I'm sure he will be begin to push the 2024 trump insurrection narrative od the left now that wapo has joined The Atlantic in discussing the 24 insurrection already.
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/robert-spencer/2021/12/19/washington-post-leftist-generals-stoke-hysteria-about-a-2024-insurrection-n1542872
This isn't normal journalism. This is what the failures of Biden has reduced the left to.
Twenty-five years ago who would have picked The Atlantic to become Der Stürmer for erstwhile boomer liberals?
Whatever Trump got in the way of was so important the true power structure had to reveal itself for the first time. Crazy ass thing to witness in real time.
My guess would be a combination of stopping the TPP, avoiding new wars, and generally slowing the globalization/open borders/oligarchy taking full power from nation-states agenda.
It is the stopping of globalization. That is what the great reset depends on. That is what the lefts government structure relies on. Competition is bad. All must be decided by central elites, even of they aren't actually elites.
It is the choosing of Intelligent Design for government instead of allowing the little tests beds of democracy to choose the best systems and policies.
They need global centralized power to prove their policies work because if allowed to compete their policies are shown to be shit.
Hey, why even bother becoming an elite if you can't tell everyone what to do?
Unfortunately, some little test beds seem to be mirroring the nation-state concept on a smaller level. Blue and deep blue cities wanting, trying to become city-states by enacting their own mask mandates, vax ID laws and many other awful laws, taxes, regulations, fines. Violations of civil liberties that the lefties had been trying for centered around gun control, are now being pushed and as oft as not, put in place. Ugly times.
I would rather cities do it than states and most importantly the nation. There is always the option of voting with ones feet.
yeah, it's a bad look for those shouting "democracy!" to be opposed to populists.
TPP, at least, seems less likely of an explanation, as Clinton was also against it.
Newsweek also all in on Trumptator fan-fiction. An article with thousands of words about the millions of Republicans ready for insurrection and all their 100s of millions of guns and trillion rounds of ammo.
Here is my favorite clip: the notion that gun-control policies enacted by Nazis and aimed at Jews were a critical enabling element of the Holocaust. That claim has been thoroughly debunked by historians. No link to any debunking, just the absolutely ridiculous claim.
https://www.newsweek.com/2021/12/31/millions-angry-armed-americans-stand-ready-seize-power-if-trump-loses-2024-1660953.html
Lol. Does debunked mean the opposite now?
Has for a year and a half, at least.
Same as bi-partisan.
Found some debunking:
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/apr/08/viral-image/no-gun-control-regulation-nazi-germany-did-not-hel/
This theory has been repeatedly debunked and refuted. German citizens as a whole were not disarmed by the Nazis, but enjoyed looser gun restrictions than in previous years. There was no lack of guns in the country, and if German citizens had wanted to use guns to revolt against the Nazis they could have, but they didn’t.
As well, comparing a dictator’s regime that treated weapon possession according to racial identity to democratic procedures of gun regulations is irresponsible.
This claim is False.
Debunking by fallacy. The Nov. 11, 1938, Regulations Against Jews' Possession of Weapons was immaterial because the other Germans had lots of guns. Solzhenitsyn was nothing but a crass propagandist.
History! From the very same people that bring you Science!
POLITFACT!!!!!!!!!
They shot holes in our 2A arguments. Not.
I’m sure there’s an innocent explanation. Oh, got it—They actually meant to say that Hitler himself had unrestricted access to guns. In (POLIT)fact, he used one to debunker himself on April 30, 1945. There—my faith in the Fourth Estate is restored! (No Fifth Column there!)
Not even just no debunking openly admitting that gun control policies were put in place and, presumably, admitting 12M Jews and other Germans died.
About as close to literally saying, "And then, for no particular reason at all, the German people elected Hitler to be their leader."
"I think when you're dealing with a closed space… you want to take that extra step."
Hmm. Isn't The Planet "a closed space"?
Actually, it’s not. Just ask the sun.
Thanks Bill nye.
Fucking idiot.
Tactically, why didn't the Dems introduce every piece of the "Build Back Better (sic)" as separate pieces of legislation? One guesses that several GOP senators, and perhaps even Manchin, could have been enticed to vote for the Child Tax Credit "Infrastructure," Bridge and Road repairs, or other "poll-popular" pieces? Lumping all sorts of disparate pieces together might have (and has) worked in the past but, thankfully, their greed got the best of them this time.
They can only use the reconciliation process for the budget once per year.
they were afraid if they doled it out one program at a time, many of them wouldn't pass at all. it's why the Prog Caucus was trying to hold the "infrastructure" bill hostage to BBB.
That part already happened. That was the infrastructure bill. Which was suborned by the smart Republicans in order to peel off the things the less-communist Democrats could be pressured based on. You think Manchin would have just put a stake in the rest of Biden's domestic agenda if he had gotten _nothing_ passed through Congress?
The dumb Republicans are the ones using that smart tactical move to accuse the smart Republicans of betrayal or "not fighting". As usual, Trump vs. McConnell. Trump delivers unified, radicalized Democrats imposing their will on the country. McConnell stops them.
Vote accordingly.
More bad news for sarc as company is testing drunk driving tech that is to be placed on all cars thanks to the Infrastructure bill passed a month back.
https://justthenews.com/government/congress/virginia-government-program-testing-drunk-driving-prevention-tech-could-serve
"You as the driver would just simply get in the car, in this instance the truck, give a puff of air toward the sensor inlet, like you're blowing a candle," said ACTS President and CEO Rob Strassburger.
"Or, if you can't be bothered with that, simply give a blast from your pressurized can, or even just a hand wave."
A blast from my pressurized can is easy to arrange, especially if I’ve had Taco Bell.
sarc’s future driving prospects are on their last breath.
Wait til it checks for antibodies in your blood before starting.
Democrats turn back to fortifying the election as their 22 outlook looks grim. Mandated drop boxes, no evidence mail in ballots are from who they say they are from, no voter ID.. . WHAT could go wrong?
https://thefederalist.com/2021/12/20/democrats-pivot-back-to-radical-election-bill-that-would-ban-voter-id/
Democrats are all about desired outcomes, so no surprise that they want to manage the voting process. Equity!
For them or U.S.?
We have very humane options of tar and feathers now.
https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B003WR9L8U/reasonmagazinea-20/
But ID to enter any other public space is noble right?
Jennifer Rubin, The Washington Post's nominally conservative columnist, declared democracy to be "hanging by a thread"
Remember that words now mean whatever we want them to mean. To some of us, "democracy" is simply a method of group decision making giving preference to a voting majority. Or we might mean a more expansive system of enlightenment-based principles that foster an open society.
But to progressives and RINOs, "democracy" means one-party, authoritarian governance, with a comprehensive plan to macro- and micro-manage society.
ps. Thanks, Senator Manchin.
Democracy means voting for democrats. The leftists here all agree. If you dont cave to the left then democracy has died. That's why they have joined Rubin and others in fighting so hard against the right as well as libertarian ideas.
sarc is making a list, he’s checking it twice,
He then spilled his beer, he’s drinking Beast Ice.
Their slogan "Democracy dies in darkness" has an undisclosed second phrase "Democracy can be murdered in broad daylight".
Zoidberg: Quiet, please. I've called you all here to the parlour to watch as I gradually solve the crime. One of the people in this room ... is a big murderer! [Everyone except Leela gasps. She gasps theatrically.] You see, the killer left one fatal clue: This boot print on the Professor's lab coat.
[He holds it up.]
Leela: Uh, couldn't be me. I never wear boots. [She unzips her boots and lifts her feet onto the table and twiddles her toes.] See?
Fry: Ew! What smells like boot feet?
[Cubert snorts.]
Cubert: This is preposterous. Obviously, the murderer is--
[Leela turns the lights off and Cubert squeaks. The lights go back on. There is now a sword through Cubert. Scruffy gasps.]
Zoidberg: My next clue came at 4.15, when the clock stopped. And another came two hours later at 4.15, when I discovered the murdered body of Amy's dead, deceased corpse.
[He opens the clock and Amy tumbles out, clutching some purple hair.]
Scruffy: Scruffy knows who killed them people. In Scruffy's opinion, it were--
[Leela turns the lights off again and stabs Scruffy with the same sword. The lights come back on.]
Zoidberg: So, it's just as I suspected all along. The crime is unsolvable! [Nibbler squeals and points at Leela. The lights go off and Leela stabs Nibbler. They come back on and Nibbler is sandwiched between Scruffy and Cubert. An envelope comes through the door. Zoidberg reads the letter inside.] A letter from Bender, my good friend. (reading) Dear Dr. Jerkberg, if you're reading this, I'm already dead. The person who killed me was ... was-- [He looks up from the letter.] My God! It can't be! The murderer, it was--
" hanging by a thread" means " democrats arent getting their way"
Effing whingers
When was the last time Rubin was actually conservative? September 10, 2001?
Fauci utilized government resources to attack the scientists being the Barrington Declaration that fought against lockdowns and travel restrictions.
Emails released under FOIA.
https://www.aier.org/article/fauci-emails-and-some-alleged-science/
But that's impossible. They can't be scientists if they don't agree with The Science, and Fauci is The Science.
He's like god and the son of god.
Look at Democrat Reason giving credit to Manchin for opposing the bill.
True credit goes to the Republicans. Just wait, and I'm sure Ken will explain how Manchin is a dirty progressive vermin while McConnel should be the one being praised.
Are you still fucking drunk from the weekend?
Eventually sarc will sober up but you will remain stupid for life.
Nice play on a Churchill quote!
Was actually quite stupid.
Never have so many (Americans) owed so much (1.75 trillion dollars) to so few (Mancin).
Except, according to Ken, Manchin deserves credit only for following the will of his constituents. The real credit goes to the people of West Virginia. He hates Democrats so much he is mentally incapable of saying one did something right. His brain cannot process the thought.
Lol says the guy openly mocked daily here over spitting tobacco.
Hilarious.
Tell us again about how there is zero inflation.
I never said there was zero inflation, you fucking liar.
I said that inflation will normalize to 2% or so after the reopening demand spike.
Don't wrestle with pigs. You'll end up soaked in muck and the pig enjoys it. Someone who accuses you of things you never said nor did to goad you into defending yourself is a pig.
Let's review who is left on sarcs team
Jeff, white Mike, pedophile above, and Joe Friday.
Good work sarc. Keep being the "libertarian" you are.
And nobody has goaded you into Tahiti you dishonest moron. You openly attack and troll on your own accord. You did so all day yesterday, Saturday, and Ken in this thread.
Nobody believes you, they can read your posts.
You aren't a fucking victim. You're a troll.
Into shit*
Youre too broke for Tahiti.
Maybe the best autocorrect I've seen though.
11 sock puppet shitposts in a row...telling
all muted
Lol. You have denied it, called it transitory, and tried lying against it being near 7% year after year. You try and cherry pick metrics that are against the average to try to save Bidens ass, but get mocked woth actual relevant data like the producer cost index.
You've done nothing but lie and gaslight against inflation which is why you are widely mocked here.
It is such a failure people don't even point out you were banned initially for posting child porn. That's how ridiculous your inflation comments have been dummy.
'You've done nothing but lie and gaslight against inflation which is why you are widely mocked here.'
Against whatever topic it is attacking, that's its M.O.. Plus the cherry-picking, and the shit attitude smug failing mockery. Failing because every god-damned time the cited source does not support the argument. Every. Damned. Time. There are only two other entirely childish ignorant smug commenters of this level posting here, and they've also been met with derision for the years that they have trolled the comments. Tony and RAK.
turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a pathological liar, and a TDS-addled pile of shit, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
So that's going to be his ad hom de jour? To drop some turd on every single comment of mine saying I'm drunk? Dude is pathetic.
Should we review your posting history of the last few days?
You haven't spoken on topic once.
I apologize. I should have said the last few months.
I mean you're only here to discuss ideas yet I can't seem to find any posts of you actually doing so.
It frees up JesseAz’s time if he can just go with a standardized insult to post after _every_ _single_ _comment_ you make.
It’s like the invention of interchangeable parts, but in the service of JesseAz’s trolling. It could even be automated someday.
My lurker friends tell me he mixes up irrelevant quotes of mine with comments that are just plain mean. Just trying to goad me into defending myself. Then when I don't the comments get even more shrill. I'm so glad Reason added this mute function so I don't have to look at his bullshit.
Are your friends in Canada?
You have friends?
"My lurker friends tell me"
Let's unpack this for a second.
sarcasmic is claiming that he has a bunch of friends who won't comment or defend his arguments, but will email him reports on what all the people he's muted are saying about him.
Suffice it to say, nobody is actually hiding in the background and feeding him intel.
Inventing imaginary friends is one of the most pathetic things sarcasmic has ever done.
Except Mike it isnt every single post. Just his trolling or idiotic posts. Problem is that is 80% of them.
I can find you plenty in skip past.
"JesseAz’s trolling"
This accusation from one of the biggest sealions I've ever come across, and a self-declared troll.
Mike Laursen
September.18.2021 at 11:38 am
SQRLSY, can you cover for me today? In a typical day, I usually:
– post a comment or two pointing out logical flaws, contradictions and partisanship in Ken’s essays, which he regards as examples of flawless logical thinking
– post a comment or two pointing out that Ashli Babbitt was not a saint and the January 6th MAGA rioters were violent
– post one “Fuck Tulpa!” comment
turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a TDS-addled pile of shit and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
You assume sarc ever stops drinking.
I was close. Manchin is still a dirty progressive who deserves zero credit. All the credit goes to the people of West Virginia.
You weren't close at all, sober up.
Remember folks.
Sarcasmic is totally not a progressive, he swears it.
Well, yes.
How many Republicans voted for it? Something to the tune of unanimous opposition?
Manchin just happens to be one of the few Dems with any sanity left, and THAT is why midterms are gonna be rough on your liquor budget.
So Biden doubled lumber tariffs a month ago, and this is the first I’m hearing of it? Weird.
During a peak in lumber prices and new home prices. The utter lack of concern for Joe Sixpack might make this an example of OBL's 1st law.
Watch more Fox Business news.
Let me try again. So Biden doubled lumber tariffs a month ago and this is the first I’m hearing of it at Reason. After 4 years of nearly weekly articles about Trump’s tariffs.
wasnt that bad when Orange Man did it?
This whole " good- bad" concept thing seems to confuse Libtards.
"It's certainly fair to point out—as some progressives have—that Manchin's fiscal conservatism is applied somewhat unevenly."
----Eric Boehm
Manchin's "fiscal conservatism" may have been applied unevenly, but his support for the infrastructure bill and his opposition to Build Back Better are both perfectly consistent in reflecting the opinions of the people of West Virginia.
"Manchin supported the $1.2 trillion infrastructure bill that President Biden signed into law yesterday. That legislation includes about $6 billion for roads, bridges, water and sewer projects, broadband and other traditional infrastructure projects in West Virginia.
That is a popular position in West Virginia. The MBE Poll found that a whopping 77 percent of those questioned support Senators Manchin and Republican Shelley Moore Capito “working together in a bipartisan effort to pass a national infrastructure bill.”
Bipartisanship. Money for roads, bridges and broadband. No wonder both Manchin and Capito get high numbers on the infrastructure bill. It fits the narrative for many West Virginians of how Congress is supposed to work.
The survey finds that Manchin, at least for now, is aligned with West Virginia voters on the $1.75 trillion Build Back Better proposal. Sixty-one percent agree with Manchin’s current position of opposing the spending proposal."
----West Virginia Metro News, November 16, 2021
https://wvmetronews.com/2021/11/16/manchins-poll-bump/
Progressives are all about using the coercive power of government to inflict their policies on the willing, and they're aghast that Manchin won't play ball. The idea of a politician reflecting the views of his voters is disgusting to progressives because they're nothing but contemptuous of the desires of average Americans.
Average Americans in flyover swing states are racist, homophobic, xenophobic, anti-vaxxers, in the progressive imagination, and on top of that, they're stupid because they won't sacrifice their standard of living on the altar of climate change. This is the essence of elitism--and elitism is the fuel that makes populists like Donald Trump thrive.
We shouldn't fall into the trap of elitism ourselves--and accusing Manchin of being inconsistent in his fiscal conservatism seems to assume that he should ignore the desires of the people of West Virginia when it comes to spending. As a libertarian capitalist and a fiscal conservative, I want to eliminate Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare, unemployment insurance, EBT, rent subsidies, and public schools--but I don't want a politician like Manchin to ignore the desires of the voters in his state. I want the voters to demand fiscal conservatism.
Politicians inflicting unwanted policies on their voters is the essence of elitism, and elitism is incompatible with libertarian capitalism. The reason markets are better than central planning through representative democracy is because people can represent their own desires in a market--without any elitist politician getting in their way. The libertarian cause is not to seize the reigns of power by electing Libertarian politicians to inflict libertarian policies (like fiscal conservatism) on the unwilling. The libertarian cause is to persuade our fellow Americans to genuinely want fiscal conservatism. Those who imagine this is impossible are elitists--and elitism is incompatible with libertarianism.
You cannot truly believe in markets as the authentic voice of individual Americans and insist that the American people are incapable of wanting to live in a free and prosperous society. If Joe Manchin is inconsistent in his "fiscal conservatism", it's because the people of West Virginia are yet to be persuaded to want even more fiscal conservatism from Joe Manchin.
It is the job of libertarian journalists and libertarian commenters to persuade the American people to want more fiscal conservatism--not Joe Manchin's. When a critical mass of the American people demand fiscal conservatism, the politicians we already have will start falling all over themselves to be more fiscally conservative than each other. Change does not come from the top-down. Change is demanded from the bottom-up. Politicians are not the libertarian solution to our problems. We libertarians are the solution to a voting pool that is insufficiently libertarian.
When a critical mass of the American people demand fiscal conservatism, the politicians we already have will start falling all over themselves to be more fiscally conservative than each other.
"I understand my constituents believe they want fiscal conservatism, whatever that is. However, I cannot in good conscience abandon my principled adherence to the higher cause of serving The Nation."
That will be an elitist stance.
Do you imagine that openly opposing the opinions of local voters (on the Green New Deal, etc.) will serve the Democrats well in swing districts in the upcoming midterms?
The voters of California and New York may want politicians like the Democrat that was running for governor in Virginia to inflict policies like CRT on their unwilling local voters, but if you think that's a recipe for winning a hotly contested election in a swing state, you're nuts.
61% of West Virginia voters supported Democrat Manchin on his opposition to BBB, 77% of them supported Democrat Manchin on the infrastructure bill, and 70% of them voted for Trump in 2020. The great thing about representative democracy is that it doesn't require the politicians to have any principles. All they really need to do is want to be reelected.
I am not a progressive. I do not believe that the government is the proper seat for morality, ethics, and principles--that the American people need them to tell us what to care about and whether our desires are good or evil. Politicians are scumbags, who should only be counted on to want to be reelected. The proper seat of morality, ethics, and principles is in the heats and minds of the American people. The politician who said, "Segregation today, segregation tomorrow, segregations forever!" changed his tune and embraced racial integration--just as soon as the American people changed their minds.
Our mission is to persuade a critical mass of the swing voters to want liberty, justice, fiscal conservatism, and capitalism. That may seem like a daunting challenge but it has the advantage of being the only strategy that will actually work. Installing Libertarian politicians that have implemented libertarian policies that the voters hate is not a winning strategy. You'll just be voted out of office. And the biggest changes always come with a change in voter sentiment. The politicians are always the last on board.
How many Democrat controlled states had to legalize recreational marijuana through a referendum because the politicians weren't on board. Politicians are the cart. Public opinion is the horse. Never get the two confused.
Now if we could only infuse the entertainment & news media, the govt bureaucracy, the schools and universities and the internet oligarch run search engines etc. with the right message we could start the slow gradual turn of the giant ship of state.
Oh, wait, wait.... the progressives beat us to it -for 50 years or more!!
Even if they didn't hold all the keys to the kingdom and thus have veto power over getting any non progressives into these areas [maybe not all the keys but certainly the majority] i cant help but think it would take so long to get enough people in position to start the process that by the time they could effect change in the narrative it would be too late by 50 years.
I think the only thing at this stage that changes minds is the necessity that calamity forces upon peoples.
Hillary Clinton lost in 2016 despite the support of the news media and Hollywood. The best leading indicator of how well Trump would do in 2016 was a Gallup survey a week or two before the election that showed that on;y 32% of the American people had any faith at all in the news media to report the news fairly and honestly. As of October 2021, the American people's trust in the news media appears ready to testy those new lows.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/355526/americans-trust-media-dips-second-lowest-record.aspx
Meanwhile, NBC is consolidating its news divisions (NBC News, CNBC, MSNBC, etc.) under one roof to cut costs--as their ratings continue to decline--and CNN is being spun off to a joint venture with Discovery Networks because their ratings are so low, too. None of this supports the idea that the news media is the dog and public opinion is the tail. You can fool some of the people all of the time, and you can fool all of the people some of the time, but you can't really control what the American people think.
Vicious dictatorships all over the world obsess over what their people are saying about them because they're smart. They're scared to death of what their own people think--despite state control of the news media and social media--because they know that the road to seeing their heads on a pike starts with what people are saying to each other about their leaders. What you say to your friends and family is far more important and influential than you realize. When the Republicans retake the House in 2022, it'll be in spite of what the news media and Hollywood say between now and then.
"Meanwhile, NBC is consolidating its news divisions (NBC News, CNBC, MSNBC, etc.) under one roof to cut costs--as their ratings continue to decline--"
Their likes are relegated to Over The Air TV with the As Seen On TV ads and that idiot crying about not being able to sell a $ 70 pillow.
Trash heap.
Ken pretends to be on the side of "average Americans" and "public opinion", but doesn't object to the election of 2 losers in the last 20 years as the GOP has won only 1 of the last 8 presidential votes and the Senate - where "public opinion" goes to die is either ruled or blocked by a GOP who's senators last represented a majority of voters in 1996, and then by about .1%. We now have a supreme court firmly ruling against "public opinion" on everything from gun control to abortion to immigration because 5 of the 9 justices were selected by presidents who were rejected by the voters and one of those is in a seat the GOP senators stole from a twice elected President.
Ken represents a shrinking minority that can't handle "public opinion" or the truth.
I feel your pain, loser.
We won again in 2020 and this time the loser was shown the door.
Another dummy who thinks the Russians won the 2016 election.
And now you're looking to get your shit pushed in in 2022, when several losers get shown the door.
""We now have a supreme court firmly ruling against "public opinion"""
It's not their job to rule in favor of.
Tricky, since the SC justices are nominated by the President according to the constitution, the founders clearly had in mind a court roughly aligned with public opinion. This court is at war with public opinion.
The job of the court is to put the Constitution first. If public opinion goes against the Constitution, the job of the court is to say "Tough titties. Don't like it? Change it."
Congrats on your first non trolling post of the week. Your weekly meteic has been met. You may continue trolling.
Talk about idiotic analysis.
First leave out the second part of the appointment clause. Then ignore article III of the constitution completely.
Never let it be said you aren't an idiot Joe.
""We now have a supreme court firmly ruling against "public opinion""
"Congress shall make no law . . . "
----First Amendment
Maybe she wants the Supreme Court to strike down the First Amendment for being undemocratic?!
Justice isn't a popularity contest, and if progressives want to make justice a popularity contest, that's another reason why progressives are America's most horrible people.
So wrapped up in his blind hatred for progressives that he heaps scorn and contempt onto the disgusting Democrat while giving all the credit to the people of West Virginia.
Yes, pointing out their actions and their legislative bills is "blind." You've gone full retard haven't you.
Admit it. You didn't actually read what Ken wrote, did you?
You just blindly attacked him in the hopes of getting a kiss on the cheek and a "My hero!" from Dee.
I’m not seeing the scorn for Manchin. Maybe sarc has special decoder glasses?
Or he’s a drunken idiot.
Some does, but it's uinversally unhealthy for the rights of the individual.
Can you think of an example of when the government inflicted change on people from the top down--that they didn't want--and it stuck and everything went great?
What time frame are we talking? Because the Soviet Union eventually did fall, but it sure did suck to live in eastern Europe for those 60 or so years.
I suspect different issues will take differing amounts of time, but I can assure you that the Libertarian Party hasn't initiated a single policy by winning an election since they were formed in 1971--what's that, 50 years?
Meanwhile, attitudes on libertarian ideas have changed dramatically since then through persuasion--from the drug war to gay marriage, pornography, and conscription. We've even had several tax revolts since then!
The CR Acts of 1964 and 1965 forced the reluctant south to change for the better and it has stuck.
They were forced to obey the constitution.
Blue states are next.
We wish Negro, but you must mean the Constitution with Article 1, Section 2, Clause 3 setting representation for slaves at 3/5 of free men? That Constitution?
You should imprisoned for your extreme retardation.
Okay, now do California voters and Democrat politicians in Sacramento.
I'm already on that project. It's much easier to persuade people when they think you care about them. So you start with friends and family.
And we're really just trying to persuade people to want what's in their own best interests. And when we care about the people we're trying to persuade and have reality on our side, that's a big advantage.
Wanting liberty, justice, and prosperity really should be the easy part. The progressives are selling government control, racial division, and sacrificing our standard of living for the benefit of others. Also, where we care about the people we're trying to persuade and what they want, the progressives are contemptuous of average people and their desires.
I know persuading people can seem difficult, but I've seen people's attitudes change over the last 20 years rather dramatically. Between 2008 and 2012, Barack Obama raided state-legal medical marijuana dispensaries hundreds of times in California. That would be unthinkable today because of public opinion--and not just in California. The federal law still says recreational marijuana is illegal.
People's attitudes have changed on gay marriage. I never thought I'd see that happen! As recently as 2008, the people of California voted to make marriage illegal with Proposition 8. People's attitudes changed on the Afghanistan war. Biden abandoning Afghanistan in such an incompetent way and leaving 60,000+ people behind wasn't popular, but cutting a deal with the Taliban and leaving became far more popular than I ever thought it would be.
Suffice it to say, if people can be persuaded on issues like the Drug War and gay marriage, they can be persuaded to want to keep the money they earn--rather than have it taxed away and spent by the government. Start with friends and family.
Just for the record,
"The feds are busting growers who operate in full compliance with state laws, vowing to seize the property of anyone who dares to even rent to legal pot dispensaries, and threatening to imprison state employees responsible for regulating medical marijuana. With more than 100 raids on pot dispensaries during his first three years, Obama is now on pace to exceed Bush’s record for medical-marijuana busts. “There’s no question that Obama’s the worst president on medical marijuana,” says Rob Kampia, executive director of the Marijuana Policy Project. “He’s gone from first to worst.”
----Rolling Stone, February 16, 2012
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/obamas-war-on-pot-231820/
Lumber prices are surging again due to inflation and supply chain issues
Housing starts are setting records. That is called "demand". It is a fundamental concept in Econ 101.
Explaining economics to some is like talking differential equations to a dog.
Well, *partial* differential equations.
Got any advice about what I should tell my relatives when they complain about how "everything is more expensive" at Christmas dinner?
Because my Thanksgiving was literally ruined by my aunts and uncles — including several Clinton 2016 / Biden 2020 voters — regurgitating wingnut.com propaganda about the i-word. I tried yelling HAPERINFLATION and referencing spittin' tobaccy, but they seemed unconvinced.
How can I get Aunt Sally to understand she must be misremembering her old grocery bills?
#LibertariansForBiden
Why yes, I will be glad to assist.
Knowing that women have a limited capacity for reason you must give her a real life example. Use the Beanie-baby example of how one Christmas back in the 90s those little fuckers were in high demand and sold for 4-5 times the retail price. After Christmas when demand plummeted the price fell to its original retain price.
She will recognize your intellectual prowess from that moment on.
Turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a TDS-addled shitpile and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
hey i remember that time! yes... and lumber, meat, housing, transportation, gas...
they all went up as much as the beanie babies and stayed there for 2 years...
and then we all woke up in a shower with bobby ewing.
apparently there's no such thing as inflation to a lefty. but, that conforms to what I know of lefty history.
there isnt any to an economist.
My Discrete Mathematics professor was a woman.
are you sure he wasn't just identifying as a woman?
Effectively communicating with folks that extraordinary lumber prices are ok requires a calm timber in one’s voice.
You can’t just bark it out.
And if they don't like your bland exposition, they can vote against it with their board feet.
It has to be like the gentle rustle of leaves.
Correct. You mustn’t needle them or they’ll just think you’re a sap and lumber away from you. Also, feel free to branch out with other examples of inflation, but state them in brief trunkated form.
I would advise them that the stores they are shopping at are greedy and jacking up prices to extort consumers in favor of shareholders. If your relatives stopped shopping at Whole Foods and started shopping at companies that are working hard to bring about open borders (at least for goods), like Walmart, they will find that their groceries are actually cheaper now.
I shop at "normal" grocery stores (I think I've been to Whole Paycheck twice) and everything is going up. Though I did find a deal on split chicken breasts the other day. Ninety nine cents a pound. Put a few in the freezer. But beef? Haven't bought beef in months. Even the price of lettuce has tripled.
To be clear: as OBL is a parody account, I was playing along by giving him a tongue in cheek answer. Obviously inflation is quite high. However, the White House has started claiming it is due to corporate greed and not due to horrible mismanagement of the economy (they switched to greed after transitory inflation stopped playing well).
My advice to shop at more value oriented retailers to see that inflation isn't happening is obviously bunk, as it is comparing apples and oranges. But it is no more bunk than pretending that inflation only impacts chewing tobacco, as OBL's persona clings desperately to.
I didn't read what you were replying to. Got the idjit on mute.
“Even the price of lettuce has tripled.”
I’m afraid that’s just the tip of the iceberg
This is purely an operating expense thing.
Shortage leads to lack of sales and income.
When they cant pay the bills on short goods sales, they must ARTIFICIALLY raise PRICES to stay in business.
That IS NOT INFLATION.
LOL
piss off sock puppet.
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Im not looking at your muted stupidity
Now explain tariffs.
Tariff.
Something bad when Trump does it against the foriegn Communist nation that owns Nancy Pelosi.
There. I expect at least an A- on that...
"Housing starts are setting records"
You mean all those housing starts that forcibly sat in limbo for an extra year are finally getting processed? That's not exactly an indicator of a killer economy.
You always try to trick us with claims a baby would see through.
To be fair, the light is a bit dim where his head is at.
Our SPB, folks, bringing new meaning to gaslighting...
Rosenbaum’s Buttplug is a Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Inflation denier.
Turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Because the Fed was holding mortgage rates artificially low, buying up 40 billion in mortgage backed securities and 80 billion US Treasury debt every month. In the next 4 months that support will disappear, mortgage rates will spike, the housing market will collapse, followed by stocks and crypto. So then inflation will be brought under control and lumber will be dirt cheap. It'll be 2008 all over again, only more like 1930.
Damn strait. Feds been vacuuming bad mortgage debts like Buttigeg sucking his BBF.
Foreclosures too.
This will end badly. Itll wipe out those who Obama didnt ruin in 2009 onward.
Housing starts are at record highs only if your records only go back to 2007. The housing market has still not recovered from the Great Boom and the subsequent Great Collapse caused by banks handing out mortgages to dead chipmunks and selling the paper to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, knowing that their "private company" status was as much bullshit as the USPS' status and the government was going to bail everybody out.
White Mike hardest hit: Uyghur women in China labor camps recall horror of rape, forced sterilization
Reminder: House Democrats Won’t Schedule Vote on Bill on Chinese Slave Labor
Also hit: NBA fans and Disney stock holders.
Wuhan James
Beijing LeBron might be more appropriate.
Is Pelosi holding her Chinese driver hostage?
Driving Miss Dumbass
Driving Miss Craisy
things will improve greatly when Grim Reaper gets her...
The Fickle ‘Science’ of Lockdowns
Experts foresaw before Covid that the strategy would fail. The authorities embraced it anyway.
By Phillip W. Magness and Peter C. Earle; Dec. 19, 2021
https://www.wsj.com/articles/lockdown-science-pandemic-imperial-college-london-quarantine-social-distance-covid-fauci-omicron-11639930605
‘Follow the science” has been the battle cry of lockdown supporters since the Covid-19 pandemic began. Yet before March 2020, the mainstream scientific community, including the World Health Organization, strongly opposed lockdowns and similar measures against infectious disease.
That judgment came from historical analysis of pandemics and an awareness that societywide restrictions have severe socioeconomic costs and almost entirely speculative benefits. Our pandemic response, premised on lockdowns and closely related “non-pharmaceutical interventions,” or NPIs, represented an unprecedented and unjustified shift in scientific opinion from where it stood a few months before the discovery of Covid-19.
In March 2019 WHO held a conference in Hong Kong to consider NPI measures against pandemic influenza. The WHO team evaluated a quarantine proposal—“home confinement of non-ill contacts of a person with proven or suspected influenza”—less indiscriminate than the Covid lockdowns. They called attention to the paucity of data to support this policy, noting that “most of the currently available evidence on the effectiveness of quarantine on influenza control was drawn from simulation studies, which have a low strength of evidence.” The WHO team declared that large-scale home quarantine was “not recommended because there is no obvious rationale for this measure.”
A September 2019 report from Johns Hopkins University’s Center for Health Security reached a similar conclusion: “In the context of a high-impact respiratory pathogen, quarantine may be the least likely NPI to be effective in controlling the spread due to high transmissibility.” This was especially true of a fast-spreading airborne virus, such as the then-undiscovered SARS-CoV-2.
These studies drew on historical experience. A separate 2006 WHO study concluded that “forced isolation and quarantine are ineffective and impractical,” based on findings from the Spanish flu pandemic of 1918. It pointed to the example of Edmonton, Alberta, where “public meetings were banned; schools, churches, colleges, theaters, and other public gathering places were closed; and business hours were restricted without obvious impact on the epidemic.”
Using data from a 1927 analysis of the Spanish flu in the U.S., the study concluded that lockdowns were “not demonstrably effective in urban areas.” Only in isolated rural areas, “where group contacts are less numerous,” did this strategy become theoretically viable, but the hypothesis wasn’t tested. While the study found some benefits from smaller-scale quarantines of patients and their families during the 2003 SARS outbreak, it concluded that a fast-spreading disease, combined with “the presence of mild cases and possibility of transmission without symptoms,” would make these measures “considerably less successful.”
Medical historian John Barry, who wrote the standard account of the 1918 Spanish flu, concurred about the ineffectiveness of lockdowns. “Historical data clearly demonstrate that quarantine does not work unless it is absolutely rigid and complete,” he wrote in 2009, summarizing the results of a study of influenza outbreaks on U.S. Army bases during World War I. Of 120 training camps that experienced outbreaks, 99 imposed on-base quarantines and 21 didn’t. Case rates between the two categories of camps showed “no statistical difference.” “If a military camp cannot be successfully quarantined in wartime,” Mr. Barry concluded, “it is highly unlikely a civilian community can be quarantined during peacetime.”
A Johns Hopkins team reached similar conclusions in 2006: “No historical observations or scientific studies” could be found to support the effectiveness of large-scale quarantine. The scientists concluded that “the negative consequences of large-scale quarantine are so extreme . . . that this mitigation measure should be eliminated from serious consideration.” They rejected the modeling approach for relying too heavily on its own assumptions—circular reasoning that confuses a model’s predictions with observed reality.
Even at the outset of Covid-19, the unwisdom of lockdowns guided mainstream epidemiology. When the Wuhan region of China imposed harsh restrictions on Jan. 23, 2020, Anthony Fauci questioned the move. “That’s something that I don’t think we could possibly do in the United States, I can’t imagine shutting down New York or Los Angeles,” Dr. Fauci told CNN. He likely had the scientific literature in mind when he advised that “historically, when you shut things down, it doesn’t have a major effect.”
What caused the scientific community to abandon its aversion to lockdowns? The empirical evidence didn’t change. Rather, the lockdown strategy originated from the same sources the WHO had heavily deprecated in its 2019 report: speculative and untested epidemiological models.
The most influential model came from Imperial College London. In April 2020, the journal Nature credited the Imperial team led by Neil Ferguson for developing one of the main computer simulations “driving the world’s response to Covid-19.” The New York Times described it as the report that “jarred the U.S. and the U.K. to action.”
After predicting catastrophic casualty rates for an “unmitigated” pandemic, Mr. Ferguson’s model promised to bring Covid-19 under control through increasingly severe NPI policies, leading to event cancellations, school and business closures, and ultimately lockdowns. Mr. Ferguson produced his model by recycling a decades-old influenza model that was noticeably deficient in its scientific assumptions. For one thing, it lacked a means of even estimating viral spread in nursing homes.
The record of Mr. Ferguson’s previous models should have been a warning. In 2001 he predicted that mad cow disease would kill up to 136,000 people in the U.K., and he chastised conservative estimates of up to 10,000. As of 2018 the actual death toll was 178. His other missteps include predicted catastrophes for mad sheep disease, avian flu and swine flu that never panned out.
We evaluated the performance of Imperial’s Covid-19 predictions in 189 different countries at the first anniversary of their publication, March 26, 2021. Not a single country reached the predicted mortality rates of their “unmitigated spread” or even the “mitigation” model—the latter premised on social-distancing measures similar to what many governments enacted. Even Mr. Ferguson’s extreme “suppression” model, which assumed a strict lockdown curtailing public contacts by 75% for over a year, predicted more deaths than occurred in 170 of 189 countries. Imperial predicted up to 42,473 Covid deaths in Sweden under mitigation and 84,777 under uncontrolled spread. The country, which famously refused to lock down, had some 13,400 deaths in the first year.
Despite the failed predictions of these models, the Imperial team rushed a study to print in the journal Nature in June 2020, claiming that lockdowns had already saved 3.1 million lives. It remains the most heavily cited pro-lockdown study in epidemiology, despite its premature claims and its circular reliance on its own model to arrive at this figure.
In reality, lockdown stringency is a poor predictor of Covid-related mortality. Our examination of the 50 U.S. states and 26 countries found no discernible pattern connecting the two—a basic expectation if lockdowns performed as “the science” often insists.
So why did public-health authorities abandon their opposition to lockdowns? Why did they rush to embrace the untested claims of flawed epidemiological modeling? One answer appears in the Johns Hopkins study from 2019: “Some NPIs, such as travel restrictions and quarantine, might be pursued for social or political purposes by political leaders, rather than pursued because of public health evidence.”
Mr. Magness is director of research and Mr. Earle a research faculty member at the American Institute for Economic Research.
Barry's "The Great Influenza" is hands down one of the best books I've ever read.
As I've pointed out here for the past 20 months, there was never any scientific basis for the nearly identical business lockdowns (that destroyed hundreds of thousands of primarily GOP owned small business, while benefitting/sparing largely Democrat Big Box retailers, Big Tech and Big Government) that were jointly announced and imposed during the same week (March 19-26, 2020) by at least eight Democrat Governors (CA, NY, PA, IL, MI, NJ, CT, RI), which left wing media propagandists collectively praised.
Most of those state's press releases announcing their lockdowns were almost identical and released just hours or days apart (documenting their collusion).
In sum, covid never caused the disastrous impacts of the past 21 months, but rather it was the scientific and public health malpractice by the Chinese Government, WHO, Ferguson, Fauci, Birx and Redfield, and the unscientific and unconstitutional totalitarian business lockdowns that were carefully coordinated and imposed by partisan left wing Democrat politicians, whose primary goal was to defeat Trump in November (which they accomplished by blaming him for the disastrous impacts of their lockdowns)
After getting away with imposing unscientific and counterproductive lockdowns and mask mandates in 2020 (as most of the duped and scared sheeple voted for Biden and other Democrats), Biden and other left wing Democrats have doubled down by imposing unscientific and counterproductive covid vaccine mandates.
Unfortunately for science, public health, liberty and civil society, polls show a majority of US voters support the unscientific and disastrous vaccine mandates (that will almost certainly come back to bite the partisan Democrats during the 2022 election).
"business lockdowns (that destroyed hundreds of thousands of primarily GOP owned small business,"
.A triple benefit- political damage, implementing the UNs Agenda 21 to de- industrialize the US as we use too much of the worlds resources, and ' fighting AGW'
A psychopaths trifecta!
keep people huddled together in stale recirculated air.
Yeah, that. Effing STUPIDITY.
and lock them at home to put on 20 pounds.
low strength of evidence
Wow. What a fantastic piece of newspeak.
Congratulations to West Virginia senator Joe Manchin has n being the official recipient of the 2021 Weigel’s Cock Ring Man of the Year Award, as well as the JFK/WCR 2021 Profile in Courage Award.
And last but most certainly not least, please eat a big, fat, ginormous bag of dicks, Sleepy Joe Biden, George Soros, and Block Insane Yomomma.
and Buttigeg. Remember the Trans Secretary.
Hed have a Sack by himself.
Fuck Joe Biden
Indeed, Fuck Joe Biden.
He’s fucked alright.
...by his OWN PARTY..
HHAHAHAHAHAFNHA
Why did it take so long in this thread?
...got a case of the Mondays...
Blame Omicron.
The markets have been taking a bit of a dive on omicron fears--not of the virus itself but fear of another series of lockdowns.
We should take a long look at what might justify lockdowns--from the perspective of non-libertarians--and what notions they should be disabused of entirely.
In the first series of lockdowns, people still believed that lockdowns would prevent the virus from spreading until we could get a vaccine. We now know that although the vaccines are effective at limiting the likelihood that we'll end up in the hospital, they aren't especially effective at preventing transmission.
A legitimate concern that might have driven lockdowns in the past was trying to flatten the curve so that the number of ventilator beds in the local ICU wouldn't be overwhelmed by Covid patients--and crowd out all the other patients who already needed those beds for other, non-Covid reasons. That made more sense when no one was vaccinated. Now that more than 70% of the American people are vaccinated, and they have a 70% less chance of being hospitalized when they're infected, those fears should be alleviated to some extent.
Even if you're not a libertarian, at this point, the only justification for locking down your immediate area should be the number of ICU beds being overwhelmed with Covid patients, and that simply doesn't appear to be the case anywhere yet. Here are the up to date statistics for ICU bed vacancies by state. You can see the percentage of them that are filled and the percentage of those that are filled with Covid patients.
"ICU Bed Utilization by State"
----Department of Health and Human Services
https://protect-public.hhs.gov/pages/hospital-utilization
Nationally, they're showing 78% of ICU hospital beds in use and 20% of them being taken up by Covid patients. However, those statistics vary dramatically by state. The percentage of patients in the ICU with Covid in Louisiana is 2.4%. In Indiana, 22% of patients in the ICU are there with Covid.
Even with that difference between them, Indiana has a 78% of their ICU beds full, and the beds in Louisiana are 69% full. If lockdowns aren't warranted in Indiana where the percentage of patients with Covid is almost ten times higher, Louisiana probably doesn't need to be too concerned at this point.
Regardless, if your governor is shutting down an entire state (like California or New York), based on the statistics in one part of the state, even non-libertarians should get really upset. California has 80% of its ICU filled, but only 8% of them are there with Covid. Why should San Diego lock down if San Francisco is overwhelmed is one question, but the other question is why a change from a 28% vacancy in the ICU to a 20% vacancy should trigger an economic lockdown?
The rate of new covid cases in the US has only increased from 364 per million three weeks ago to 392 per million this past week.
The fear mongering left wing and mainstream media propagandists (as well as WSJ, Fox News and other Conservative media outlets) and left wing totalitarian Democrats are just trying to scare Americans yet again (this time about omicron) in order to increase their own power and influence.
Meanwhile, the left wing lockdowns significantly increased the already growing public health problems of obesity, diabetes, depression, opioid overdoses, suicides and delayed medical treatments).
If Fauci, the US SG, CDC and Democrats were truly concerned about public health, they'd have aggressively encouraged and provided incentives for obese Americans to get into shape and lose weight, as obesity (especially severe obesity) is by far the leading risk factor for death and hospitalization due to covid for Americans under the age of 70.
Yep. 'Mandating' an hour-long walk in the sunshine on days it was possible would have done more good than everything we tried. Sadly for us, that doesn't remove Trump from office, so they had to pull out all the stops.
Trump was “removed from office” by his having to run for re-election, and losing.
Do you also say Gerald Ford was “removed” from office?
Dummy.
Covid lockdowns are so the Dems transfer wealth to bankrupt cities- - because BBB failed to pass.
they would have written in BBB money for building treatment centers instead of spreading it in hospitals.
Be wary of anyone who claims they can tell you why “the markets” did this or that. They are projecting a narrative onto decisions made by millions of independent actors, with widely different motivations and goals.
It’s quite _illogical_ to claim you know what “the markets” are thinking.
> Now that more than 70% of the American people are vaccinated,
It is even better than that. We have over 85% of seniors vaccinated, who are most likely to end up in the hospital. Also, a pretty good portion of the 15% have likely already recovered, so are also protected. Despite Omicron's fast spread, it seems impossible for it to put even half the people in the hospital as those hospitals had to deal with in prior waves.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10328331/Left-wing-millennial-Gabriel-Boric-voted-Chiles-youngest-president-vows-tax-super-rich.html
This won't end like Venezuela. No, they'll get it right this time. Yeah. Sure.
(Laugh’s in Pinochet)
What, no anti leftists in Chile to attack? You leave that energy to saving Biden and the left from attacks here?
Weird how you have more ire for something that doesnt effect you while running protection for the left here.
He’s a sick man.
Sens. Elizabeth Warren (D–Mass.) and Cory Booker (D–N.J.) announced that they have tested positive for COVID-19.
They'll be fine.
But, no one survives Covaids!
FBI loses all the CDs seized in Epstein case.
It’s amazing how this stuff magically happens. Reminds me of how they lost the 30 cell phones/passwords during The Russia Hoax. The losses always go one way. Does anyone believe this crap anymore?
And Twitter deletes an account merely following the trial. Makes you wonder why they want no publicity.
So the response to Trump's terrible lumber tariffs are to double them?
That's not just thinking outside of the box, it's thinking outside of the head.
Phil Murphy (D) of New Jersey, has been the most vocal in opposing new mandates
Because guns are still legal in NJ.
Because they have weather-vanes in those places, and those people can see which way the wind is blowing. Sort of a "don't let your mouth write checks your ass can't cash" recognition that the public has had enough and you're going to look pretty silly giving orders nobody's following.
It's certainly fair to point out—as some progressives have—that Manchin's fiscal conservatism is applied somewhat unevenly. Manchin was one of the 88 senators to vote last week in favor of the National Defense Authorization Act,
National defense is a Constitutional obligation. Bummer Building Blunder is a spoiled child's list to Santa.
Sens. Elizabeth Warren (D–Mass.) and Cory Booker (D–N.J.) announced that they have tested positive for COVID-19.
I guess that means Rosario is out of the picture.
Joe Manchin Drives Final Nail Into Doomed 'Build Back Better' Plan. For Now.
You know, as a gay Black conservative who believes in fundamental family values I normally vote for the Republican Party because it’s basically the home of literal drag queens like Milo Yiannopoulos and Caitlin Jenner. However, it now appears the DemocRAT party went from zero to two two drag queens preening for attention in the Senate. I may have to reconsider my vote in 2024 if this keeps up. This is what I call progress!
two drag queens preening for attention in the Senate
Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham?
Oh yeah, I forgot about Lindsey. Thanks. There’s so much diversity in the GOP. It’s kind of like a rainbow of activity ranging from the weirdly closeted to having sex with minors on ecstasy to outright sexual assault. So much inclusivity!
LMAO at another one of AmSoc's try-hard sockpuppets.
Sir, I try to laugh, but I can’t when I consider the shattering implications of the communist Biden agenda. I don’t know how one can find any mirth in anything right now what with annualized inflation at 4%!!! and an unemployment rate at 4.2%.
And how did this get missed?
California’s Superintendent of Equity Daniel Lee resigned Tuesday after Politico reported the six-figure-salaried employee works in Pennsylvania.
Maryland Governor Larry Hogan (R), has also tested positive for Covid. He is vaccinated and boosted. He’s also a cancer survivor.
Reporter: Have you gotten the booster?
Ron DeSantis: So, yeah, ah, I’ve done, whatever I did, the normal shot, and that, at the end of the day, is people’s individual decision.”
Wow! As a gay Black conservative I’m positively ecstatic about the clear and concise messaging coming from Ron DeSantis. I’ll wait for what my daddy, Donald Trump, says about him, but— boy— what a public speaker!
Better response would have been "That's a private medical decision and no one's business but my own".
Are you concerned about Trump’s having gotten a booster shot?
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/20/trump-says-he-got-covid-booster-shot-tells-fans-not-to-boo-him.html
And yet without skipping a beat, White Mike will also insist that Trump supporters are a cult who do exactly what he tells them to do.
Mike's TDS seems to be a form of schizophrenia.
Nah, the capacity for that kind of cognitive dissonance is way more common than schizophrenia. Sadly, it seems to occur in a quite a lot of people who are otherwise more or less sane and functional.
You mean he did what we've told you he has done and said for a year? This proves you were wrong when you claimed conservatives were telling people to not get vaccinated dummy.
The new Spider-Man movie became the first film released during the pandemic to earn more than $100 million in its opening weekend. It pulled in nearly $250 million in the United States, the third-largest opening weekend in Hollywood's history.
And a true sign concerning how worried Americans really are about COVID-19.
It's not like old people go to Marvel movies.
Young people weren’t going before either, you idiot.
Spiderman made more in 3 days than any other movie made in its entire theatrical run for the past 2 years.
That's what two years of cabin fever does to people.
By the way, have you seen it? I plan to take my daughter next week.
Date night?
Movie followed by car vandalism.
Not yet. The last movie I saw in a theater was Endgame. Appropriately enough.
A 65-inch 4K TV and my own refrigerator may make that permanent.
Measles Party.
Nothing new.
Now for a vaccine against democrats.
FJB
Bankrupt blue cities did not get the wealth transfer from 400k incomes because Manchin. Pivot to Covid lockdowns, destroy small business and the economy- AGAIN!!!!. PRINT the wealth transfer because Covid.
Covid Climate Trump- easy peasy
You gotta remember Biden has a pen and a phone just like Obama had and when Congress refuses to make needful laws, it's up to the President to make the necessary laws. Let's just hope that Biden doesn't remember that EO's are just as constitutional as legislation and there's no reason he needs Congress to do as he pleases.
lying today?
lay off that white powder
You need to start paying a bit more attention.
i do. Trolls like to repeat such nonsense...
Tongue in cheek often conceals lies...
Jerryskids' tongue is thoroughly in his cheek and gum, just like OBL's Chawin' Terbacky is with his.
"It's certainly fair to point out—as some progressives have—that Manchin's fiscal conservatism is applied somewhat unevenly. Manchin was one of the 88 senators to vote last week in favor of the National Defense Authorization Act, which sets the Pentagon's budget at $770 billion next year."
On the other hand, national defense is one of the core functions of government. Paying for your daycare and encouraging people to put solar panels on their house isn't.
Reason # Lebbity-Leben Umpteen-illion to keep kids out of Gummint Skoolz:
DC 3rd graders made to reenact Holocaust ‘because Jews ruined Christmas’
https://www.timesofisrael.com/dc-teacher-suspended-after-making-3rd-grade-kids-reenact-holocaust-scenes/
You can just imagine this Nimrod teacher's approach to Critical Race Theory and Wokeism, especially since Jews aren't considered part of the CRT/Woke Intersectional Totem Pole of Oppression and 'Systemic Racism."
“Watkins provides a challenging and engaging learning environment for our first through fifth-grade students. Building on the strong foundation laid at Peabody, the school develops well-rounded students who work collaboratively and recognize their role as members of a larger community.”
I guess they were working collaboratively.
Each child serves as the eyes and ears of the State, to ensure that all citizens are contributing their fair share and not offending anyone in any way.
Children and parents alike need to be the Jalpeño on the hemorrhoid of the State to keep the kind of shit this "teacher" was doing from ever happening.
Jalapeño, that is. And Cayenne, Ghost, and Paprika as well.
Well, fortunately, somebody didn't "collaborate" and "go along to get along" with this Sadistic Psycho teacher!
Just think, if more people had done that in Austria when a certain Party was formed 97 years ago and You Know Who Else became Chancellor in Germany 8 years later, maybe the DC children wouldn't have had any history lesson to learn, much less be subject to the coerced trauma this asshole behind a podium inflicted on them!
great https://hleducation.net/
Why arent they taught that the political Nationalist Socialist system of 1930s Germany is now running their schools?
Lessons list...
thank you
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This isnt about Manchin, its about Pelosi losing control.
Recall her shrieking that SHE was in control of Budgeting during Trump.
If the ninety and nine jump ship, shes toast.
"Recall her shrieking that SHE was in control of Budgeting"
She's not even in control of herself.
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