New York Creating Race-Based School 'Affinity Groups' To Combat Racism
A Manhattan public middle school is asking students to segregate themselves next week as part of a "two day celebration" against segregation.

On November 23 and 24, seventh and eighth graders at the Lower Manhattan Community Middle School—a public middle school in the borough's highly coveted District 2—are scheduled to begin their mornings by organizing themselves into racial identity "affinity groups." This intentional act of segregation is being conducted in the name of undoing "the legacy of racism and oppression in this country."
The New York Post reports that in an email to parents, Principal Shanna Douglas outlined five possible affinity groups the students could choose to join: Asians (who are 44 percent of the student population), whites (29 percent), a combined caucus of Hispanics and African Americans (15 percent and 8 percent, respectively), those identifying as multiracial, and people who wish to opt out of such classifications altogether.
"This optional program was developed in close coordination with both the School Leadership Team, PTA and families," New York City Department of Education (DOE) spokesperson Nathaniel Styer told the Post. "[It is] abundantly clear to both students and parents that anyone can opt-out of this two day celebration if they desire."
"Celebration" seems an odd word choice to describe a racial sorting exercise for pre-pubescents. "How disgusting to divide 11 year old friends & classmates by race in 2021 NYC," tweeted former District 2 Community Education Council member Maud Maron, a noted critic both of pandemic school closures and diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) initiatives. "Segregating kids is wrong. (Even if some expensive DEI consultant, who has run out of real racism to battle, tells you to do it.)"
New York City's education system is no stranger to race-based affinity groups. In June 2020, the DOE's Early Childhood Division held an "Anti-racist Community Meeting" at which 700 employees were given the option to join breakout sessions in one of the following groups: "blacks or African-American, Latinx, Middle Eastern and North African, multiracial or mixed, Native and Indigenous, Asian Pacific Islander American, White Allies."
That same month, the principal of a public elementary school in Queens instructed teachers that they needed to become "interrupters" of racism, then sorted staff into three groups: "Latino/a/x/Hispanic; White/Asian/Other; and Black."
My daughter's middle school has voluntary affinity groups for students and teachers alike, as does the district as a whole among staff. And as the whistleblowing Manhattan teacher Paul Rossi can tell you, private schools in this neck of the woods are not necessarily a respite from the racial-sorting hat.
How do advocates handle the cognitive dissonance of segregating in the name of anti-segregation? Like this, care of an email from a friend of mine's private school principal:
"Affinity groups allow people with a shared identity to meet with one another in an emotionally safe and brave space. Unlike legal racial segregation which was a tool to maintain white power and control, racial affinity groups are anti-racist spaces in which participants can build their skills and capacity to unlearn and dismantle racism." (Emphases in original.)
If parents of private school kids truly want to voluntarily organize themselves based on melanin or nationality background, I suppose that's up to them (and I will politely decline). But forcing public school teachers—and, Lord help us, students—to affirmatively and publicly choose their own racial silo strikes me as awful, possibly illegal, and worth striking down in every instance I've heard about so far.
The initial practical problem, whose obviousness should nevertheless give affinity-promoters pause, is of classification. Why should African American/Hispanic be a single category? Or white/Asian? What do we do with the ever-elusive "white Hispanic" category? Don't naturalized immigrants have far more in common with one another than they do with fifth-generation natives who may happen to share their skin pigment?
These definitional sorting questions point to a truism routinely treated by progressives and educational bureaucrats as false: Racial/ethnic/national identity is inherently fluid, not fixed. Immigrant Greeks and Italians and Jews in the late 1800s and early 1900s would have been shocked to hear that they were "white," yet that's what we call them now. Cubans ain't Mexicans, literal Caucasians (as in, from the Caucasus Mountains) are routinely categorized as Asian, and Hispanics are seceding from their own identity. In a country founded not on nationality but ideas, this fluidity should be considered a feature, not a bug.
And yet we are sending the exact opposite message, in some cases to 11-year-olds. By making them choose their own group (even if one such group is the opt-outs), we are doing two bad things: making them feel as if their narrowly and often inaccurately defined subcategory is stamped upon them like a scarlet letter, and also that it is an important or even defining aspect of their personality.
What makes this effort all the more strange is that the exact opposite message is being sent, from and to the exact same people, when it comes to gender and sexuality. On my daughter's first day of middle school math class, kids were invited to share their preferred pronouns; soon they were informed that it was National Coming Out Week, in case they needed some encouragement. Making a 10-year-old conscious about multiversal choices many of them are not remotely close to understanding, even while drilling into them the odious concept of racial determinism, is an off-putting way to go about the business of education.
This is the part of the story when anti-anti–critical race theory commentators sneer about Nice White Parents who just don't want their precious Kyles and Dylans to hear about the real and ugly history of U.S. racism. But here is where that contemptuous mix of mockery and denial crash on the rocks of reality.
Yes, affinity groups are often sold as ways to protect the weary ears of minority students, parents, and teachers—it can be "exploitative and emotionally taxing" for people of color "to educate privileged persons about their unearned privilege and the nature of marginalized person's oppression," P.S. 307 Principal Cecilia Jackson explained to her staff in June 2020—but even that quote demonstrates a deliberate attempt to put people classified as white on the defensive about their immutable characteristics.
"It's not enough to be, 'not racist.' That's just complicit," Matt Gonzales, an affinity group advocate and member of New York Mayor Bill de Blasio's School Diversity Advisory Group, told the New York Post last year. "I think the idea around white allyship is that we want white people to be actively anti-racist."
As leading anti-racist consultant (including to public schools) Robin DiAngelo puts it in her recent book Nice White Racism, "Many white people do not have the skills to engage in cross-racial work without causing further harm….I have been leading white affinity groups for years, and there is a consistent pattern that emerges as soon as it is announced that we will be separating by racial group for a brief period of time (typically sixty to ninety minutes): white people panic."
I do not doubt that Robin DiAngelo, Ibram X. Kendi (who my daughter has been assigned to read), the leadership of many New York schools, and perhaps the entire campus of Columbia University's Teachers College think that such formulations are just commonsensical observations in describing our fallen world and suggesting methods to improve it. I am also confident that a sizable number of parents, including in progressive New York, find such talk wrongheaded, insulting, and borderline deranged.
Eleven-year-olds should not be told in first period to join an ethnic tribe. Their teachers should not be directed to act along those essentialist lines, either. A public school system that mainstreams segregationist exercises in the name of combating racism will discover, sooner rather than later, that it's losing customers for a free product.
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"according to an email sent to parents."
The Post doesn't seem to link to the email...
Perhaps Ms. Douglas, being named in multiple articles on this subject can vigorously deny that this is the case.
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1. As a journalistic enterprise best practices is that if I had an entire article hinging totally on the source of an email I would link to it.
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Maybe outrage is warranted. But a link would be nice.
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I see your point, but, technically, I don’t understand what you are asking for. They can link to a web page, but how can they link to an email — they quoted it, instead, which is similar to what would be standard for reporting on what was said in a snail mail.
Are you asking for them to post an image of the email, or ???
Now you know what it’s like. Pretty annoying, no?
Because this ass is just here because it's been paid to try to sow doubt and uncertainty. It's not a genuine concern for fact, it ignores facts when they are inconvenient but it knows others do not and tries to weaponize that against them.
It is nothing more than an informational warfare attack.
Or, this person is making a point in good faith and is not a part of some "Information warfare" conspiracy; and even if rhe comment is not offered in good faith, the appropriate response is not to dehumanize the commenter. Is that too much to ask?
And here jeff defends a known troll. Because:
A) it is a leftist troll
B) Uses the same rhetoric bullshit he does
C) is also a known leftist troll.
D) Is hoping for some virtual hot troll-on-troll sex.
Are they talking about me? (I have them muted.)
Yes, of course, my comment was in good faith.
Your comments are never in good faith.
Is this like when you claimed you dont cite Rolling Stone less than a week after quoting rolling stone?
Forgot? Or different puppeteer playing the role?
Oh you mean this one?
https://reason.com/2021/09/09/california-is-set-to-outlaw-unannounced-condom-removal/?comments=true#comment-9091773
That is Mike insisting that he “would never look to Rolling Stone” for news, after spreading their bogus ivermectin story only days earlier. Consider that: He didn’t apologize. He didn’t even try to ignore his mistake. He brazenly tried to dunk on Rolling Stone to make himself look like an arbiter of truth.
The pathological narcissism required to disrespect the truth and readers so heavily should make him ashamed. It won't though, so I advise others in the thread to avoid engaging with someone that argues in such bad faith.
Clearly, if the information isn't from a linkable web page (which assures its reliability. Somehow,), it can't be trusted.
Got it, Amalthea.
On the Internet=valid
Any other source=not reliable, probably Russian bots.
What QA is trying to pull is a regular White Mike rhetorical trick for inferring dishonesty on the part of an article or commenter, without risking anything.
If none of us can be assed to provide him with a cite, it looks unsupportable or dishonest, which is what Queen Anathema's actually hoping for.
If someone does post the cite, QA will thank them, and pretend he was merely curious.
On its own it may seem innocuous, but QA will only do this with stances he opposes politically.
Now here's an article that screencaps the parents responses to the school: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10221835/Manhattan-junior-high-school-racially-separate-students-discussing-social-justice.html
And if QA had bothered to search he'd have found other articles demonstrating that this isn't the first time that the school has pulled this stunt.
Now go fuck yourself, QA, you dishonest fifty-center.
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Wouldn’t it be nice if every parent and student opted out. I expect the school board would label them all as racists, though.
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the school board would report them to the DoJ for enrollment into a re-education camp.
the school board would label them all as racists
Yeah, it was a trick. I doubt that any "white" students fell for it.
… and people who wish to opt out of such classifications altogether.
Hopefully most of them. *fingers crossed *
My job recently sent out an email form about what affinity group we would would like to associate with.
They didn't have a character limit on the group box, so I responded with a diatribe that explicitly called HR evil for opposing Dr. King's dream.
I doubt it changed any minds, but I can hope.
Fuck racist schools wanting to force students to identify themselves by race. Fuck all of it, it's disgusting. They can't let racism die.
It's not clearly racism to have people talk about racism. And that's likely (but we'd need more evidence to conclude) where this was going (pointing out how the different groups have had different experiences [treatment] due to race).
In fact, ignoring it probably helps it mightily.
Yeah, there just going to talk about racism. This all about revenge and nothing else.
They're not merely talking about racism you mendacious shit. They're physically separating students by their actual race.
That's practicing racism, not merely discussing it.
Unless it is not the "approved" talking points being addressed, then it is racist.
“Race” is a weapon they couldn’t let go of.
They are so reasonable, they continue to push usage of the useful (to them) word "Latinx", despite being told by literally MILLIOINS of Latinos and Latinas that they have words for themselves and didn't appoint any fucking DIE consultancy to make a new one for them.
It's all they have.
As the lawyers say:
If you have the law on your side, pound the law. If you have the facts on your side, pound the facts. If you have neither, pound the table.
That's what they (leftists) are doing. If you know that your preferred policies are harmful beyond belief, so that you can't advocate them with a straight face, you say that your (insane!) policies must be implemented to "fight racism" or "achieve racial equity" or some such crap.
They'll rethink their position when some groups outperform others and restart the cycle.
They'll rethink their position when the same groups outperform others and restart the cycle.
Next week, the Lower Manhattan Community Middle School will reportedly separate kids in grades seven and eight into five racial groups for a two-day program meant to explore 'How do our racial identities influence our experiences?' Principal Shanna Douglas wrote in an email to parents.
I don't have a problem with this as long as they then go on to divide the kids by what sort of pets they have to explore the question of how do our pet-loving identities influence our experiences, divide the kids by their favorite foods to explore the question of how do our food-loving identities influence our experiences, divide the kids by their favorite superhero to explore the question of how do our superhero identities influence our experiences, etc. Because otherwise you're sort of pushing the idea that your racial identity is the most important influence on your experience and that is very harmful to multi-racial transgendered Muslim dwarves and I for one will not stand for this sort of marginalization of our most vulnerable members of society.
Skin color is the most important thing..
That's what MLK said, right?
Yep. Colorblindness is racism too.
divide the kids by their favorite foods to explore the question of how do our food-loving identities influence our experiences
The most meaningful divide there would be one of the following:
1) Those who understand that chili does not have bean vs woefully ignorant heathens.
2) Those who know that New England is the one true clam chowder vs those poor lost souls who insist on recognizing the Manhattan variant in spite of it being the abomination that it is.
There's, chili, Chili and Chile.
I like them all. This is not chowder country.
To be frank, the Cat person/dog person or DC/Marvel split is far more important than trivialities like skin tone (which mostly manifest in hair care and sunscreen).
I would tell my children, and for them to suggest to their friends, that they stay home for those days and refuse to participate. I sure as hell would.
I would have taken my kids out of government schools a long time ago, and avoided all of this. And recommend everyone else to do the same.
Instead of staying home, I would encourage my kid to go, but choose as his affinity group "people who wish to opt out of such classifications altogether". Hopefully he wouldn't be the only one and could discuss why he thinks ideas like this are counterproductive at moving forward to further reducing discrimination in the US and giving more opportunity to people than we do now.
Withdrawing from something you disagree with doesn't always help.
This is unfair to Hispanics as they are now classified as 31 different groups and shouldn't be lumped together. They made the right choice for Asians though.
I hear Asians in Boston are POCs now. Yellow I guess.
Only because the new mayor is an Asian socialist womyn
How do you even discriminate during a Boston winter? By scarf and mitten coordination?
Remember when Bret Weinstein objected to the Day of Silence at Evergreen, where white people were told to stay home, and the mobs of communist terrorists went after him and chased him out of his job?
Yeah, "Oh it's just some wacky liberal college, nothing to see here"
That’s because there is a difference between something like this being done at a wacky private liberal college and a public school.
Cite?
I am pretty sure Evergreen is a public college in Washington state.
Yep.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evergreen_State_College
Haha Dee is a dumbass again!
By "private" it means doing what a select group wants with government money and sanction.
I stand corrected then. If it is a public college, they should not be engaging in this practice.
Seems you’d get tired of embarrassing yourself by acting like you’re smarter than everyone else only to turn out wrong all the time. Yet you persist.
You'd think. Liarson doesn't.
This is fine by me since it will further ruin the perception of public schools and the people who administer them.
Of course, this is the other side of the coin of "schools should teach the curriculum that parents demand".
Is it okay to point out that schools shouldn't be doing this even if liberal New York parents want them to?
Racial discrimination in schools, including private schools, is prohibited by federal law. That they're only conducting racial discrimination on "optional" days is not a defense.
Stop both sidesing on the basis of nonsense.
Tell that to all the schools implementing a "moment of silence " in order to skirt prohibitions against prayer in schools.
The moment of silence is for anything. Not just for prayer dummy.
What about loudness?
And the point here, is that if we are to accept that parents are to be put in charge of the curriculum of their local public schools, it means that some will engage in this segregation nonsense, simultaneously with some engaging with the censorship nonsense regarding 'critical race theory '. Populism cuts both ways.
What fucking bullshit. The segregation is being pushed by leftist teachers espousing CRT. The same shit you defend all the time.
you dance with who brung you...
who ever pays for the schooling decides on the curriculum.
Government schools only teach compliance at the behest of whichever party is distributing the money.
private schools teach any number of things at the behest of whoever is paying the administrators.
It’s not that complicated. I’m just not sure if you’re making it that because of your pedantry or stupidity.
There’s no way to read the phrase “racial affinity group” and not think of the KKK as being one.
Weird how you and Jeff have supported the segregation being pushed by CRT advocates for the last year and now you say this.
Maybe you are just really slow?
I'm surprised that they didn't label a group "KKK" rather than "white".
Only non racists stick to their own kind
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Also known as "gangs".
That can't be true. If I correctly remember my research (watching TV in the 70s-80s), gangs are the one area of American life, aside from the Burger King Kids Club, where perfect integration of demographic groups was invariable.
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You know, as long as everything is separate, but equal, it will be great.
Right?
No, separate but equal, except for "whites". They are inferior, and must acknowledge that.
No reports of post verdict riots yet but alarming numbers of Democrats heads spontaneously exploding nationwide.
Wait until the defamation suits.
The streets of Hollywood are flooded with actors tears.
TFW you wish something was literal instead of a figure of speech.
Just wait for the next booster shot.
"possibly illegal"
In the sense that shoplifting is possibly illegal.*
*even if the law isn't enforced
Making it an official policy is controversial. It would be easier to have 4 seperat cafeterias that the students can pick from
1. Miricle whip and wonder bread lunch
2. Fried chicken and watermelon
3. Rice and red bean pudding
4. Tacos and tamale
This is offensive on so many levels.
And that's even before we get to the term "miracle whip." Yeah, I bet the whites want one of those, the slavers.
Wouldn’t work. The white kids’ hipster parents have raised them on fusion cuisine. They’ll just get yelled at for cultural appropriation if they dare eat anything other than wonder bread and miracle whip.
Sure the white kids get "miracles" and "wonder". Of course they do.
And the poor oppressed kids just get plain food.
Never let the white girl bring the potato salad.
Fried chicken and watermelon
This is one of those racial stereotyping things that never made any sense at all. I mean...who the hell doesn't love fried chicken and watermelon?
I made red white and blue tamales for Independence Day. Should I be cancelled?
At a minimum.
> If parents of private school kids truly want to voluntarily organize themselves based on melatonin or nationality background, I suppose that's up to them
We separating the sleepy kids from the wide awake now? Or perhaps you meant melanin instead of melatonin.
Hey, my mama always said: “Woke is as woke does.”
Oh cmon-we all know CRT is a myth. Just like vaccines causing autism and Trump winning the 2020 election /sarc
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Factcheck rating: False, these school officials never advocated segregating the railroads.
Once we are forced to give up personal vehicles and travel everywhere, including to school (when allowed) on government modes, I fully expect segregated anti-racist train cars and buses.
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As-if that was some secret; but with the amazing amount of media propaganda they use to excuse/justify it many gullible people think its not really what it is.
And the humorous part is the last time Democrats cared so much about skin-color and wealth class the USA was entertaining slavery.
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So everything people in Loudoun County said about Critical Race Theory inspired pedagogy is true, including Welch's daughter being assigned material from the racialist crank, Kendi. When reality bites the above-it-all pundit.
Sad. Sounds like he's just a few years away from being denounced as an enemy of he Revolution.
I wonder how Kendi would feel if he woke up white.
Finally, the gates of opportunity would open for him!
Alternative Joke: Maybe we should have asked Michael Jackson when we had the chance.
Isn’t Opting out the same argument those who wanted prayer in school made? That was shot down as it stigmatized those who did not want to participate. If that was wrong than this is too.
"Our religion is better than their religion, and people who don't believe it *should* be stigmatized!"
Said almost every idiot human for the past 10,000 years.
And if we extend the concept to basic tribalism, we can include pre-human species.
"Unlike legal racial segregation which was a tool to maintain white power and control, racial affinity groups are anti-racist spaces in which participants can build their skills and capacity to unlearn and dismantle racism."
I will note for the record that they are confirming that "anti-racism" is old school racism.
I just love the premise here and how racist they end up being when executing their plan. And they cannot even see it.
"OK lets put the blacks here, hispanics over there, whites at this table, gender weirdos over there"..."Now lets talk about how the white cis gendered folks have ruined the world for each of our groups!!"
Look, Matt.... This is all lies. There is no critical race theory in the schools. CNN told me. NBC told me. NPR told me. The NYT told me...
Just go check Snopes, or factcheck.org. Or USA Today.
Stop spreading lies.
Even the national teachers union knows you are lying
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/critical-race-theory-teachers-union-honest-history/
Political scientologists certainly know history best.
Prepare for all the white students to magically sort themselves into some sort of minor-victim-status gender group so they can get some sympathy points too.
Its no coincidence we are seeing so many kids (far above what presents in the population) identifying as trans, non-binary, demisexual, etc. Everyone wants to be a victim so the AWFL's in training go with the intangible gender/sexual minority status so they can be a non-oppressor too!
Choice of pronoun I can go for, since language and gender are socially constructed. But sex is not, and, unlike race, it's so close to universally a cut-hard binary, it makes no sense to think of it as a spectrum. And deliberately fuzzing the line does no favor to those of us who want to erase unnecessary cut-hard walls that make things for boys alone or for girls alone.
It's obvious what these people want: to keep the pot boiling. If these problems are ever solved, they're stuck.
I'd be tempted to respond that if I'm privileged, thank you, I'm going to fight to hang onto every bit of that privilege I can and snatch more if I can get it. Thank you for pointing out what I'm in danger of losing so I can protect it better. If you don't like it, then fuck you, sucker. And don't act like you're equal, because as you just pointed out, you're not. So grovel at my feet and make me some coffee, even though I don't even like coffee, just because it gives me satisfaction to know we snatched it from indigenous drooling rock clunkers.
This is unbelievable. Our education system deliberately practicing segregation.
Does Brown mean anything to these school admins?
Does our struggle for equality before the law mean anything?
This kind of shit is what totalitarians and communists do.
Back in the mid-90s, a elderly black man went on a rant in the office where I worked stating, "You think the government wants white man and black man to get along? Hell no! They want us to keep fighting as they take money out of both of our pockets"! He went on in a similar vein for about 10 minutes complaining how he never sees his local commissioner until election time and then it was just to ask for his vote while blaming all of life's woes on the white man.
He was right.
Do they even teach normal stuff anymore, or is it all anti-racism?
Basically, no. Try having a conversation with a school-age young person educated in an urban public school. It's very difficult because they know nothing.
As opposed to all those school-aged child geniuses we used to produce.
The things you people say. It's like you're from another planet.
You're projecting. Just because you grew up in nearly total ignorance doesn't mean that was ever the norm. And yes, to someone who spends his whole life cowering in Mom's basement, those of us with lives and educations must seem alien.
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Government and religious schools both inculcate collectivism. Can anyone explain to those cartels that racial collectivism is collectivism. No collectivism implies no racial collectivism, Q.E.D.
Do parents want their children to join race tribes to engage in racial combat?
I do Nazi a reason to do that to Jew or me.
It's called "The Olympics".
Liberal logic: Divide people into groups based on race, sex, class, or religion and then have them point out all the shortcomings and failures of the other groups to promote unity and harmony!
Sure that is going to work great! (sarc)
When there's no racism to fight, you must make some. They've failed at branding non-racist people as racists so now it's on to creating genuine racial animosity.
At least there are more categories now. Used to be just batches of yellow stars to tell us who to hate on for a week.
Seriously thoug
Though* imagine if Dems could not be racist for a week instead.
I realize the New York Post is a giant pile of dogshit, journalistically speaking, but I had to give up trying to piece together the timeline of this supposed story. It links to stories from Nov. 2020 and then gets to March 2021. Lost is any coherent narrative about what's happening.
You know what did happen? The school voucher movement, championed by this very magazine ad nauseum, which, of course, originated as an excuse to continue segregating schools by race.
It's actually a fascinating history of trial and error, with early racist attempts at doing vouchers being repeatedly struck down by courts on account of their racism and religious sectarianism.
One theory is that the goal is to continue burying the government's role in public school, much as has been done with healthcare ("Git yet government hands off Medicare!"). Because racist or not, one thing students need to be taught is that they are free to spend every actual moment of their lives, from kindergarten on, making some asshole money.
You can find my analysis of this in the section titled
"White Privilege, Black Privilege, Yellow Privilege"
In my book "Why Socialism Sucks" on Amazon Kindle.