Racism

Robin DiAngelo Is Very Disappointed in the White People Making Her Rich

Nice Racism—and the "anti-racism" consulting business—rakes in the bucks while losing hearts and minds.

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We are, especially here in Brooklyn, living in Robin DiAngelo's world. And yet she seems so unhappy about it.

The five-minute walk to my neighborhood bookstore to buy DiAngelo's new book Nice Racism: How Progressive White People Perpetuate Racial Harm is filled with totems signaling the continued ascendancy of the self-styled anti-racist movement.

A window on my block bears the hand-scrawled sign "INACTION = CONSENT," a Manichean formulation that DiAngelo echoes throughout her follow-up to the 2018 smash hit White Fragility ("if we are not actively challenging those [racist] structures, we are supporting them," etc.). The storefront of my local State Assembly representative's office displays not one but three Black Lives Matter signs. Across the street, the fence of my youngest's elementary school is festooned with student art condemning discrimination and celebrating diversity. That school recently shrunk its zone (my house, 150 feet away, is no longer in it) and changed admissions policies in an effort to "disrupt zones of exclusion." And just past the bookstore is my eldest's much more diverse middle school, more famously known now as the subject of the New York Times podcast Nice White Parents, whose sardonic, guilt-encouraging title likely influenced DiAngelo's latest.

This movement's journey from obscurity to ubiquity has been neck-snappingly brief—and measurably lucrative for its leading lights. "My average fee for an event in 2018 was $6,200," DiAngelo writes on her website's "Accountability" page. "In 2019, it was $9,200. In 2020 (as of August), it has been $14,000." In the book, she adds that she gives presentations on "whiteness and white fragility" on a "weekly basis."

Taking those numbers at face value, that's $728,000 a year just from speeches and workshops, to say nothing of book royalties and whatever the University of Washington is paying her. By most every yardstick, DiAngelo has achieved runaway success, lodging herself firmly in the top-earning 1 percent of the world's richest country.

But Nice Racism is an unrelentingly sour book, depicting the fight against systemic oppression as a joyless, never-ending slog through minefields of potential missteps, while relying to a comical degree on DiAngelo's exasperated encounters with people who have the temerity to disagree with her approach.

That latter description may sound uncharitable, but it's not. In a chapter titled "We Aren't Actually All That Nice," DiAngelo belatedly berates a (white male) London cab driver for telling her that he was sick of being called a racist and that he feared a group of black men who hung around his neighborhood. "Also worthy of note was his typical white lack of racial curiosity or humility about the limits of his knowledge," she snipped. "He had the author of a New York Times best-selling book who was in town to do interviews for the BBC in his cab, and he did not ask a single question about my thoughts on the matter." The nerve!

If you are a white person who has challenged DiAngelo in one of her seminars the past couple of years, you are probably in this book. There's "Sue and Bob," who reacted to her eight-point talk on "What's Problematic About Individualism?" by telling her that, no, they prefer treating people as individual human beings. "How could Sue and Bob have missed that forty-five minute presentation?" she huffed. "I was left wondering, yet again, what happens cognitively for so many white people in anti-racism education efforts that prevents them from actually hearing what is being presented."

There was "David," a white man who—after being asked to disclose his racial identity—chose an indigenous tribe he had just spent a few months living with. ("David held fast to his opening claim, which had a powerful impact on the seminar and which continued to direct our efforts and distract the group.") There was a white woman who complained that a DiAngelo-led webinar was not "advanced" enough for those who'd been doing such work for years. ("This move demonstrates an inability to think strategically about our own role in anti-racist endeavors.")

Then there were the white progressive participants of one presentation who, even after being told that "silence from a position of power is a power move," nonetheless declined DiAngelo's urgings to speak aloud about their experiences of "white socialization," and then complained afterward. "Given that in the case of racism, the worst fear of most white progressives is that they be perceived as racist, and both myself and the BIPOC people in the room gave them direct feedback that the effect of their silence was racism, how could they continue to hold back? What was going on?"

What indeed?

There's a palpable anxiety gnawing near the heart of DiAngelo's project, one that gives me a bit of hope in our fraught racial times. Sure, people are buying her books, shelling out five figures for her appearances, and being confronted with her ideas at workplace seminars. But are they really getting it?

Clearly, many are not, even among the self-selected group of progressive knowledge-class workers with a professed interest in DiAngelo's brand of anti-racism. (Lord help those in figurative flyover factories who are force-fed her enthusiasms for racially segregated "affinity groups," among many other questionable ideas.) The selling proposition of Nice Racism is that DiAngelo can, by shaming those in her targeted demo who refuse to take their medicine, guilt enough of their cohort to double down on doing the work. And oh, is there so much work.

A subhed in a section near the end summarizes what's required: "Lifelong Commitment." "We must not ever consider our work toward racial justice to be finished," DiAngelo admonishes. For those white people who deign to believe they have achieved true anti-racism, she offers an exhausting, impossible-to-achieve 21-point checklist, including such items as, "I use my position as a white 'insider' to share information with BIPOC people," and "I have demonstrated that I am open to feedback on my own unaware racist patterns."

Conclusion: "We must continuously educate ourselves through books, films, discussions, conferences, community groups, workbooks, and activism." And she knows just the provider to help!

Much of Nice Racism consists of DiAngelo detecting racist patterns where others might instead observe people trying in their imperfect ways to be human. There is a whole section on white women's tears, with the author criticizing some white mothers in one emotional session for empathetically crying with and consoling black mothers who described talking to their sons about racist cops.

The relentlessness of the tone-policing after a while makes your face numb: Don't be too quick to show family photos of your BIPOC kids/grandkids, don't be too "nice," don't "over-smile" to black people (I am not making that up). Don't think that marrying a black man gives you a pass: "Sadly, many white women don't demonstrate that their cross-racial relationships have provided a deeper understanding."

There is a paradox at the center of this Miss Racial Manners stuff. DiAngelo's starting point, fundamental to the anti-racist movement, is that just about every instrument and extrusion of society and government was born in racism and perpetuates racially unequal outcomes. You cannot secede from race; you're soaking in it. Therefore, it is incumbent on all good people to consciously disrupt those systems.

But DiAngelo almost never talks about those systems.

There is a passing paraphrased assertion late in the book about how some state gun-rights law was somehow connected to racism. Yet any academically rigorous look at the connection between gun rights and racism will preponderantly show the opposite: The system of gun restrictions was originally created as a conscious effort to deprive black Americans of their Second Amendment rights, and the practical application of them to this day leads to tremendous racial disparities. Do the work, people!

There is almost no policy in Nice Racism. Perhaps that is for the best—at one point DiAngelo writes this whopper of a non-sequitur: "In discussing white people who define their politics as fiscally conservative but socially liberal, [Heather] McGhee notes that all poverty in the US could be eliminated by spending just 12 percent more than the cost of the 2017 Republican tax cuts." That is not how either poverty or government spending works.

Applying the "systemic racism" analysis to actual systems requires understanding how said systems work, and having the humility—otherwise a DiAngelo-recommended virtue—to recognize that results are not the same as intent; that people who agree on ends will have heartfelt intellectual/policy disagreement about means. A fatal flaw coursing through the anti-racism set is a failure to acknowledge that people who are equally motivated by a desire to improve opportunities for historically disfavored populations may have different ideas about how to accomplish that. See the debates over charter schools, for example, or the minimum wage.

Tone-policing individual behavior, on the other hand, has a much more tangible call to action: Devote yourself to continuing education, participate in this seminar, and—of course—buy this book.

But will they read to the end? There are some people, I am sure, who have a taste for political self-flagellation, for being on the masochistic end of collective shaming, for being told that even the desire for forgiveness is untenably racist. But even among that unhappy subset, there surely are limits to consuming page after page of anxiety-wracked pessimism and an almost juvenile defensiveness over being challenged.

Toward the end of Nice Racism, DiAngelo quotes a 75-year-old man who has the gall to write an email criticizing her for making negative generalizations about old white people on NPR. The note runs all of 165 words. DiAngelo responds with a six-page rant, complete with enumeration of 10 "unspoken white racial 'rules,'" blasting the correspondent's "hostility and condescension." It is a hilariously disproportionate and ungracious projection of the author's by-now-evident personality traits.

"In addition, given that the writer is a white man chastising a white woman with more knowledge of the matter than he has, it also nicely illustrates the intersection of white and male arrogance: both whitesplaining and mansplaining," she snarls.

Robin DiAngelo's main contribution to racial discourse, for better and for worse, is prodding those of us with fair skin to be more cognizant that we benefit from a cultural and legal expectation that our immutable characteristics are the default "normal." Those born different, she rightly points out, are too often denied individual agency and instead categorized negatively into a group identity.

But her response isn't to confer that overdue individuality onto minority populations. It's to enthusiastically commit the same category error with the largest category. When people recoil at the effort, well, that's just their racism talking.

"There is deep racial resentment roiling just under the surface of many white people," DiAngelo writes. Or at least under the surface of some successful white anti-racist educators.

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  1. Well, I’m convinced – give the woman a Pulitzer prize!

    1. Why not? Nicole Hannah-Jones got one for her fiction work.

      Though Deangelo likely wont be able to get away with the “If you dont give me instant tenure than I didnt earn, you are a racist”

      That worked out well for Hannah-Jones though, UNC gave in, full tenure, so they wouldn’t be called racists anymore.

      1. UNC didn’t want to be portrayed as racist like the Duke men’s lacrosse team.

        1. Crystal Magnum could not be reached for comment.

          1. Is that because she’s in prison for second-degree murder?

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    2. Robin DiAngelo and I certainly agree on one thing: She’s racist as fuck.

    3. For her next project I suggest Robin might do a study on and write a book about the perverse, highly dysfunctional subculture blacks in this country have created–actually holding blacks accountable for the mess that has created creatures like Cardi B, and not, for a change blaming “whitey.”

  2. Why did you buy her book? Why are you giving these race hustlers money? Pirate this stuff in the future.

    1. Every so often, a book will come out so bad in it’s premise, that I will not read, buy, discuss, or even acknowledge its existence. Michael Moore’s book “Stupid White People” is one. This is another.

      1. I wouldn’t even read it if a copy fell off the back of a truck. That or anything by Kendi.

        1. I’m kind of curious to find out just how awful it is. If I see a copy at the dump, I might pick it up.

        2. It’s possible to check out books from certain libraries via Kindle. I got Kendi’s book. I made it about halfway through the preface before giving up.

      2. Agreed. Just yesterday, I walked past a bookstore in a white upscale neighborhood when they had her latest tome on display. The title made my day; a case of the left eating its own.

    2. Not pirate (we are supposed to be libertarians here)…but do wait for the day when DiAngelo’s books are propping up rickety tables at the cut-out book section of the Dollar store. With luck, maybe that day is coming sooner than you think

      Who knows? Maybe you’ll see bits of the cover in the pulp that makes particle-board furniture.

    3. PJ O’Rourke had an old column where he reviewed one of Jimmy Carter’s books, and justified the purchase by developing drinking games finding factual inaccuracies, using the book to balance a table, and ultimately using it to play fetch with his dog.

    4. I will buy it for one dollar or less when it shows up in a pile at the flea market. And it will. It truly will.

  3. So, judging by photo and her name, this person is a white Italian-American who decided to lecture everyone from the perspective of black people? I guess she gets some points for her imagination, but most of the black people I know would consider it presumptuous and more than a little condescending that she has presumed to speak for them.

    As for her claim that individualism is racist, what about members of minority groups who believe in their own individualism? Oh wait, let me guess, she’d say they’ve just internalized racism and become self-loathing but they are too stupid to realize that until an expert like her comes along to enlighten them. Holy white saviour complex, Batman!

    1. Her grift is a mix of telling non whites “yes everything they say about us is true, we are super racist”, self-flagellation, white guilt salesman.

    2. The irony is quite thick.

    3. With her Italian heritage, I wonder how she feels about Columbus Day?

      (BTW, that holiday and other mechanisms were part of a deliberate effort to turn Italians from black to white in US society. I suppose now that wanting to be white would be some kind of capital crime.)

      1. Gandhi, in his youth in southern Africa, was outspoken in the movement to have Indians promoted to White.

      2. Who cares what she thinks about anything.

      3. This Italian lady is making a career out of insisting all white people hate egg plants.

    4. She uses her mother’s surname. Dad was named “Taylor.” She could be half-WASP, but who knows about the “P?” I suppose if you want to be “less white,” going with the Southern European ethnicity makes sense. Old-timey US “nativists” used to insinuate that Italians were “not quite white.”

      [AFAIK, my ancestry is all Irish, but our family has a surname derived from the Normans. Somebody had it applied to them by the conquerors, or just adopted that style? Maybe a sasanach married into the family. Who can say? It was long ago. The name’s popular in Scotland, so the ancestor in question could at least have been a fellow Celt. ]

      1. Crap, it may be too late for you to see this, but I’m Irish (as in really) and know a little about this. Normans settled in Ireland in the centuries following the 1066 victory. Many of them settled and interbred so much they became “more Irish than the Irish themselves.”

        By the time Elizabeth rolled round, the Irish Normans were so integrated – they even spoke Irish by this point – she needed to route them out with the plantations, or the first modern western colony. Two classes of Anglo-Irish now emerged: the old English (Normans) and the, well, English.

        You probably came from that stock; for what it’s worth, my uncle genuinely still doesn’t trust old English surnames, and eyeballed me in the pub one night, claiming with devastating sincerity, “when push comes to shove, they’d be the first to turn their back on us.”

        Bear in mind that they’ve been living here for 700 years at this point.

    5. Nice points Inigo!
      “individualism is racist” that’s so laughable isn’t it?

  4. D’Angelo demonstrates that she is a sophomoric thinker who believes that anyone who disagrees with her just was not paying attention. She is a great exemplar of the radical Left, just a little too open about her contempt for others not in full agree ment with her.

    1. Or, of most college professors.

  5. CRT articles generate comments. Reason knows the game.

    1. While pooh-poohing the notion that D’Angelo and those touting similar ideas are downstream of CRT academics.

    2. At least Sullum did not write it.

    3. It’s not their fault that this identity politics stuff, despite being reductive and destructive, has reached the point of popularity that’s legitimately frightening people.

      1. “Reductive and destructive.” That’s a super way to put it! Are you Shel Silvertein?

        1. “Are you Shel Silvertein?”

          That would be deductive and restructive.

          1. That too. Ol’ Shel’s song “Freaker’s Ball” was a model of true diversity and inclusion without hatred…not to mention a great libertarian orgy.

            By contrast, DiAngelo’s and Kendi’s worldview are more like “Sarah Cynthia Sylvia Stout Who Would Not Take The Garbage Out.”

            1. https://youtu.be/aIlJ8ZCs4jY

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              To drive home the message of brotherhood – this year, for example,
              On the first day of the week, Malcolm X was killed, which gives you
              An idea of how effective the whole thing is.
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              And I know there are people in the world who do not love
              Their fellow human beings, and I hate people like that!
              Here’s a song about National Brotherhood Week:
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              But during…
              National Brotherhood Week
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              Fun to eulogize the
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              Be grateful that it doesn’t last all year
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    4. “a white women who has more knowledge on the matter then he does.” Says who? Who is it exactly that has bestowed this title of “racism expert” onto her? Am i wrong by saying it’s just her? I might be, it’s possible, I’m not always right. I sure am envious at how Deangelo always is.
      It must require quite some ego to just assume anyone who disagrees with you does so out of some fault of their own, that the idea that they could be right never even enters her mind. She has said many times in the past that she feels no need to debate anyone who disagrees with her. That’s pretty convenient isn’t it?
      My favorite part was when people at one of her seminars pushed back on some of her sophistry , that her response was “how can they listen” to the talk and “still not get it.” No Robin we get the joke, it just wasn’t funny.
      I was struck by this article, combined with what i had already known, that this WHOLE thing is like “Scientology” for the 21st century, and Deangelo is our new L. Ron Hubbard. Actually, isn’t there some claim of him reincarnating or something of the sort?….
      Ooh, spooky.

  6. “We must not ever consider our work toward racial justice to be finished,” DiAngelo admonishes.

    There are always more mansions to be purchased. She’s just one in a long line of people making easy money off of race baiting.

    A person such as her speaking so authoritatively on behalf of a whole group of people she’s never met might seem paternalistic to you, but that’s just because you’re racist.

    1. In the same vein as CRT, white fragility was completely unfalsifiable. You white? You have white fragility. Dont think so? You are being overly defensive, a sign of white fragility. Pushing back harder? That has all the signs of racism, systemic oppressiveness, and white fragility.

      1. If she drowns she is a innoncent, if she lives we burn her as a witch.

      2. This is the same grift as with “you have to believe (or pray) harder”. If you don’t get what you want from SkySanta, you just don’t believe (or pray) hard enough.

      3. Logic is racist.

        1. Someone recently told me that looking up words in a dictionary is too.

      4. Her philosophical construct is based entirely on circular reasoning. Literally any critique of her thesis is proof of the thesis. And like a lot of today’s left-wing ideology, it marinates in the solipsism and narcissism of the Me Generation:

        “I was left wondering, yet again, what happens cognitively for so many white people in anti-racism education efforts that prevents them from actually hearing what is being presented.”

        “If you don’t mindlessly accept my indoctrination, it’s not because I made a bad argument, it’s because you won’t listen!”

        It makes one long for another Great Depression so these people would have something legitimate to complain about.

        1. It makes one long for another Great Depression so these people would have something legitimate to complain about.

          Their would-be leaders Bernie and OAC want so desperately to deliver exactly that to them.

          1. Another Great Depression would be just the denouement they hope for, to usher in the final phase of government does it all.

      5. What I don’t get is how can someone be both insensitive and fragile?

      6. “”You white? You have white fragility. Dont think so? You are being overly defensive, a sign of white fragility. “”

        They have no idea what a circular argument is.

        Whatever happened to ‘you don’t know me’? That was more reality based.

        The color of one’s skin is a piss poor indicator of a person’s character. Dr. King was alluding to that.

    2. You can’t win, you can’t get even and you can’t leave the game.

      1. By design, or feature, not bug.

    3. Of course it was all about the money, reminds me of the scene in Breast Men when the character played by Schwimmer having lost all his riches he made after inventing the implants discovers he can now get rich removing the implants. If you can’t make the money one way there is always another way.

      1. Kind of like plastic surgeons with gender transitioning operations.

    4. Calling Al Sharpton!

  7. How Progressive White People Perpetuate Racial Harm

    DiAngelo may be a grifter, but she’s not wrong on this part.

    1. She has lots of first hand knowledge.

      1. Yeah, her line of thinking on this seems to be:
        A) I’m a white person
        B) I know how racist I am
        therefore
        C) white people are racist

        The problem with her logic is that she is is collectivizing her own deep individual personality flaws onto a large and diverse group of people. And she is doing it without realizing the irony of judging all these individuals based on the flimsy correlation of an observed flaw in some small subset of people, and some superficial physical trait that they share, like skin tone.

        We used to have a problem with thinking like that, and we had a word for it: racism.

        1. This is one of the things that really drives me crazy about her and many other white progressives. Stop generalizing your bullshit to all white people. Like progressives who “learn” that it’s wrong to touch a black person’s hair without permission just to see how it feels or to try to “talk black” to seem conversant with black culture. These are not lessons sentient people need to learn.

          1. ^This. I’ve been watching some DEI training seminars on YouTube for a laugh, and almost every one is either a) bizarre white leftist behavior no sane person would do, or b) a white person/man being called racist/sexist for criticizing bad behavior from a black person/woman. One video informed me that it’s racist for a white woman to be upset when a black kid shoves her against a brick wall for having the audacity to use the sidewalk.

            1. It seems to be an article of faith for progressives that any white person being critical or disapproving of any black person–or simply not falling all over themselves to please and placate them–is automatically racist. This is the kind of thing most black people I know think is crazy. And it’s actually racist AF because it treats all black people as fragile children. The race grifters love to exploit this because making white people squirm is their meal ticket.

              1. The bigotry of low expectations in that video was pretty wild. Right up there with that blue check who said of the Ma’khia Bryant shooting, “black girls getting in knife fights is normal so cops shouldn’t get involved.” (That may not be exactly verbatim, but close enough.) The anti-racist message seems to be, “black teens are violently misbehaved by nature, and to expect otherwise is racist.”

          2. And in their crazy mind, their reasoning is:

            I do this racist stuff, and have racist thoughts. But I am one of the most progressive people I know. So imagine how racist those rednecks and republicans are!! They must be 1000x plus racists.

            It never occurs to them that they are just the most racist people in our society

          3. “”Like progressives who “learn” that it’s wrong to touch a black person’s hair without permission””

            Well progressives seem not to understand you can’t come up to, say a flute player, and touch her shoulders while smelling her hair. So I can understand why they don’t think anything is wrong when they touch people without permission.

            “”or to try to “talk black” to seem conversant with black culture.””

            I missed our last DBI meeting where they discussed AAL. African American Language.

          4. Stop generalizing all their bullshit about black people too!

            I live where there is no majority race population. There are as many blacks as any other “group”. To say that they are thinking, acting, talking as a unified group………….well, we all know where that goes.

        2. A proper syllogism would be.

          A. All white people are racist
          B. Robin is white
          C. Therefore Robin is racists.

          Her position is simply illogical and false.

          When I took critical thinking, I was taught to judge an argument first by validity, then judge for truth. A valid argument avoids using fallacies. And argument based on the generalization fallacy should not even be considered a valid argument much less a true one.

        3. There’s another word for it: crazy.

    2. DiAngelo is a racist, just now how she thinks.

  8. A window on my block bears the hand-scrawled sign “INACTION = CONSENT,”

    You live next to Bill Cosby?

    1. I’m bringing this sign the next #metoo rally.

    2. Same thought, ‘No “No” means “Yes.”‘

  9. “He had the author of a New York Times best-selling book who was in town to do interviews for the BBC in his cab, and he did not ask a single question about my thoughts on the matter.”

    Even a cabbie in London knows the NYT is just agitprop.

  10. Progressives deserve her, good and hard.

    1. And she deserves them back, good and hard.

  11. she offers an exhausting, impossible-to-achieve 21-point checklist, including such items as, “I use my position as a white ‘insider’ to share information with BIPOC people,” and “I have demonstrated that I am open to feedback on my own unaware racist patterns.”

    Oh, those two examples are easy to achieve. 1) “My tax dollars pay for the attempted education of BIPOCs” and 2) “I occasionally watch MSNBC”.

    1. Isn’t “BIPOC people” redundant?

      Give her another doctorate, oh sacred expert institutions of on high education!

      1. Don’t know if it’s redundant. It puts black and indigenous ahead of hispanic by giving them special recognition outside of the POC umbrella.

        Perhaps favoritism is more the word?

        1. Huge percentages of Spanish-speaking New Worlders have indigenous ancestry, and that’s especially true for folks in the countryside who migrate to the USA, or attempt to. Not too many sangra pura descendants of Spaniards are hopping fences or swimming across rivers. They fly in and overstay their visas. 🙂

        2. Why do black and indigenous people get their own letters? Are the lived experiences of Latinx and Asian and Pacific Islanders not important too? It’s a problematic microaggression that erases other peoples of color.

  12. How Progressive White People Perpetuate Racial Harm

    “Why, just behold Robin DiAngelo’s shtick!”

  13. Left wing Democrats falsely blame all whites (especially Trump and the GOP) for the racist history and actions of the Democrats (killing and driving Native Americans into reservations, owning slaves, seceding from the Union to preserve slavery, destroying Reconstruction with Jim Crow, creating and mobilizing the KKK, imprisoning Japanese Americans, imposing family destroying welfare state policies, and discriminating against Asians at Ivy League schools).

    1. They assume that since their hyper emotionalism would never do those things that those things were not done by hyper emotionalism.

    2. Leftists are racists, and project their own racist feelings onto everyone else to absolve themselves of guilt.

      1. I read Matt Taibbi’s review, and he mentions an anecdote from the first chapter, where DAngelo goes to dinner with a black couple, and spends the entire time talking about how racist her family is, and trying to prove how un-racist she is, while completely ignoring the black couple’s discomfort. This is not something a normal human with normal, developed social skills would do.

        But progressive white women are not normal people with normal social skills, so she’s right in assuming that other white progressive women would be able to relate to that anecdote.

    3. They had the perfect societal divisions based on species in The Planet of the Apes. Why can’t we figure it out?

  14. This can be summed up as “Look, I’ve got a good gig here! If I accept that white people have made progress in regards to racism, I’d have to get a real job! Where I have to actually accomplish something! But I have no job skills; certainly nothing someone would pay me $700k a year for.”

  15. There is a part of me that respects a con artist once they reach a certain level. Woman who slips and falls in a store is not impressive. Convince millions that they are depressed because they have imprisoned alien souls as a way to avoid taxes, you earned respect. This Gucci boot wearing wop (sp.?) is really heading towards the latter end of the con autist spectrum. Bill Burr was definitely referring to people like her in his SNL monologue.

    1. “con autist spectrum.”

      Nice.

  16. those of us with fair skin… benefit from a cultural and legal expectation that our immutable characteristics are the default “normal.”

    Go fuck yourself, Welch.

    My father worked the fields with his mother and grandparents from the age of 6. Irish and Okies. Americans have been hating foreign and ethnic whites since before Mexico even existed.

    Your apologetics ruined an otherwise admirable attempt at exposing D’Angelo for the race-baiting lefty cunt that she is.

    1. Everyone thinks the culture they are in is “normal”. Because that’s how normative judgements work. So it’s not particularly interesting or bad that the majority culture is seen as normal by the majority of a population. So I’d say that what he says is true but insignificant.

      1. Progressives noticed that saying poor/homeless white people are privileged doesn’t play with normies, and so they shifted to “being in the majority is privileged.” Problem solved. If you’re white and work at a dollar store, you’re privileged because “more people look like you” (because progressives always expound on their ideas as though addressing five-year-olds). If you’re Jay-Z, you’re not.

        1. Regular old Marxism, for all it’s terrible flaws, at least hits closer to the mark. Social and economic disparities are far more about class than anything else. No fucking way is a poor white kid from backwoods Appalachia more privileged than a middle class black kid from Connecticut. And poor white people seem to be the last class of people who it’s OK to mock in a “punching down” sort of way.

          1. The deplorables.

        2. That depends on one’s neighborhood now, doesn’t it?

          I’m often the only or, one of just a few, white people in any given social setting – the store, a party, a family function – where I live. It’s just demographics and simple math.

    2. Well, he did follow it up with this:
      “But her response isn’t to confer that overdue individuality onto minority populations. It’s to enthusiastically commit the same category error with the largest category.”

      Which is very much in line with my whole argument against this ‘white privilege’ nonsense that the SJW’s have been going on about for years. They are more focused on tearing down than building up.

    3. Does she go to the middle east and get in the faces of Arabs for thinking their characteristics are ‘normal’, or china, or Mexico, or most other places on earth where there the majority of people have certain characteristics?
      It’s this pseudo intellectual nonsense of deconstructing the obvious to appear smart, with extra bonus points for virtue signalling and of course self criticism.
      Where do these lefty whites experience all this racism, because either they are one themselves, or they need to stop hanging around with racists. This whole idea of unconscious bias, system racism/sexist etc. is all borne of the fact that they can’t find any actual bias, so they attribute it to the unseen and undetectable ‘unconcious’ or ‘system’ that doesn’t manifest in plain sight, but influences the universe.
      I liken it to the devil worship panic in the late 80s, as nonsense that will blow over, aided by the fact that those in power will start to see how it could fuck them up.

  17. Because I’m white, I’m therefore racist. So like other immutable characteristics, such as male pattern baldness, I will just accept it.

  18. White people need to shut up and listen.
    Silence is violence!
    This isn’t hard, people.

  19. GFY Welch. She is your tribe. You have consistently thrown in with them.

    1. It’s all about tribes. All of it. All of morality can be summed up four words: what tribe are you? Thankfully there are only two tribes, so we don’t have to resort to any complicated moral calculus. “What tribe are you” is a binary question.

      1. Remember the old Murphy’s Law: There are two kinds of people in the world: Those who group people into two groups and those who don’t.

        1. There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those that cannot.

      2. Us and them.

    2. Even hardcore lefties are wilting at the more and more extreme versions of racial theories that we are seeing these days. See the people questioning Diangelo at her own lecutres. This is undermining the entire movement.

      To compare to the 60s, even pro-segregation whites balked when police attacked children with dogs, which led many to question why the system was worth defending.

      Fortunately, we should return to a more reasonable balance.

  20. Leftists have a problem with presenting theories as self-evident universal truths when in fact they are self-evidently false in the overwhelming majority of circumstances. Then they conclude people reject their assertions because they didn’t hear or understand them, when in fact these theories are simply not compelling. Nor can leftists demonstrate these truths logically , hence their demand [meaningful only to them] to “do the work”, or even worse claim logical thought is white supremacy. To speakers “do the work” means learn how the assertions fit the circumstances. But to the rest of us who already understand they do not it means learn to accept assertions on faith regardless of how reality contradicts them.

    Both of these failures show they cannot transition from the classroom and drum circles where they control people via their grades or political commitments and demand their theories be accepted as true to the outside world where every listener is an independent judge expecting actual evidence or at least a consistent fit to reality. It’s astonishing to me the left believes they can replicate their ideological control on the outside world with such obviously weak theories. But since they’ve already been far more successful than the substance of their theories justifies maybe I’m the one who doesn’t get it. Maybe reality really isn’t relevant, although I suspect over time it will reassert itself.

    1. But since they’ve already been far more successful than the substance of their theories justifies maybe I’m the one who doesn’t get it. Maybe reality really isn’t relevant, although I suspect over time it will reassert itself.

      People like this can only thrive in a highly decadent, safe, hedonistic society where the whims of the mentally ill are perpetually indulged. Once that society breaks down, it reverts to the mean and they become marginalized.

      It’s happened to every complex society in human history, and it’s going to happen to the US as well, eventually. It’s just a question of when.

      1. Once that society breaks down, it reverts to the mean and they become marginalized.

        I’d rather beat them back than console myself they were wrong over the proof of a broken down society.

        1. I certainly understand that. You have to look at this debate in context of larger social forces that have evolved in this direction over the decades. The New Left latched on to the dialectics of critical theory and cultural Marxism over frustration that their overt, violent social and economic revolutions largely didn’t pan out after the wars. They were very active, aggressive, and engaged; meanwhile, the Goldwaterites, Reagan, and the neocons became leaders on the right by saying that “government is the problem” and discouraging conservatives from being involved in government at all, because it was too corruptible an institution to soil their hands with. They also completely abandoned the fight over institutions of culture for strictly economic agendas, and look where they’re at now.

          Bringing this up to today, look at the reaction by the left-liberal establishment and even “libertarian” commenters here that this toxic ideology is being openly challenged, especially at the local and state levels. They’re exercising obscene levels of deflection and throwing out more red herrings than Seattle’s fish market–“this isn’t a problem; if it is a problem, it isn’t that bad; if it’s that bad, there are other problems that are worse.” They’re down-talking civic engagement by employing the old “your vote/involvement is useless because the deck is already stacked against you!”. They’re resorting to the boilerplate “fascist!” screech and disingenuous, passive-aggressive whines about “divisiveness” that they always do whenever the right actively resists their agenda.

          The LAST thing these people want is you challenging their cultural hegemony or being engaged in your community. They WANT you apathetic. They WANT you demoralized. Sure, you might not be able to “make a difference” at the national level, but the most important actions are done at the ground floor. Volunteer for local planning and civic commissions. Attend every town council meeting. Attend school board meetings and run for the board. Have kids? Bring them along–it’s part of their civic education and will make them more engaged, too.

          The radical left already does these things–why can’t conservatives and libertarians? The old “because we have jobs!” is a bullshit excuse. People having jobs didn’t preclude our grandparents or great-grandparents from doing these things. It was considered an ordinary part of being a citizen, something that strengthened community bonds and increased social trust. Until we, in the broad sense, are willing to put some skin in the game and risk pissing people off to stand up against their agenda, like the parents in Louden County are doing, then we have no cause to complain when our opponents set the terms of the debate. As I’ve said before, half the time, winning is just showing up.

          1. Lastly, most of the commenters here are grown-ass men and women, usually in their 30s-60s. We really need to sack up and stop acting like being involved in our community, and being responsible for its well-being, safety, and functions, is something that we shouldn’t have to be concerned with, that “other people” can take care of it while we sit back and complain like that shithead Holden Caulfield about how “crummy” and “phony” everything is.

          2. “The radical left already does these things–why can’t conservatives and libertarians? The old “because we have jobs!” is a bullshit excuse.”

            I agree, it is a BS excuse. I think when I say that, what I mean is that by their nature, conservatives and libertarians just want to be left alone, and solely on that reason are reluctant to be activists. Not to mention, the parasitic left are more inclined to be activists because frankly, they are probably less likely to lead productive lives (I’m not talking about moderate dems here, I’m explicitly referring to leftists).

            I agree with your entire post, and with Marshal. Libertarians need to be engaged in this fight at all levels. Legal, vocal activism like in Louden County, and commerce as well.

          3. It is in the libertarian/conservative nature to not want to get involved in “the system” save the meglomaniacs that exist in all philosophies (examples being “conservatives” who have the desire to gain control of the levers of power… senators, POTUS, AGs, etc). But your average joe, true believer conservative or libertarian seeks to engage the world in positive ways… through productive, economic life or through spiritual charity and church. Those are fine and well (usually).

            But that means we left the powers of state unguarded. Even “our guys” when they reach that point put their hands on those levers and yank. We need more people willing to enter these fields… gov, media, edu… simply to “take up space.”

            It is like Walter Block’s argument about it being better for a German Jew to take a position running the camps so he could do it inefficiently. The alternative isn’t to not have the job done at all but to have it done by a real anti-semite who would instead kill far more people.

            We need to become teachers in public schools. Yes… generally we don’t want any public schools but that isn’t on the table right now. So if we don’t take those jobs, who is left but, well… the left?

            After I graduated with my Ed degree to become a teacher I ran into one of my school’s ed program directors at PetSmart. She asked if I had a job yet. I said yes, at a low SES/majority-Hispanic school (I gave the school name… but she knew of it because of these characteristics). She said something about the great good I am doing and that it is so good that we have public schools for these kids. I stopped, looked her in the eye, and said “I became a public school teacher so that, hopefully, one day we won’t have them anymore.”

            I teach my kids honestly. I tell them what I think and to go ask other adults for their opinions and not rely solely on my attempt to steel-man other people’s positions (which I try to do fairly). When teachers go on strike, I tell my students I disagree with the strike and don’t think the teachers have a right to demand other people’s money. Yes… I am paid by tax dollars I consider stolen. But better that those dollars fund someone trying to expose these kids to actual political diversity and thought than expose them to one more year of indoctrination.

            We need to take jobs we wish didn’t exist. The reality is these jobs exist and someone is going to take advantage of these positions. The question then is who.

      2. “People like this can only thrive in a highly decadent, safe, hedonistic society where the whims of the mentally ill are perpetually indulged. ”

        Soft times make soft people. We are seeing it every day. For all the bitching the middle class does about the billionaires, almost every middle class neighborhood you see will have people with their house, at least 1 but usually 2 cars, often toys/ATVs/boats (albeit many of them manage finances poorly and take out debt for the toys and cars). Food is plentiful and cheap (most poor people are actually obese to morbid obese). If you even contributed to a 401k in the last decade the hot economy has multiplied that money. Every person walking around has a computer in their pocket more advanced than the best computer a decade ago, with access to all the info in the world. As a people, our middle class lives better lives than over 90% of the rest of the entire world.

        We have faced no major struggles in generations. In decadence and excess, these people have no wolves at their door. They are overall weak, so they focus on micro-aggressions. They aren’t worried about where their next meal is coming from or being attacked by people/animals. They are aggrieved that white Janice at the office made a remark about a black trans person without perfectly respecting her culture or pronouns.

        But try this shit in desperate times. Go from “Michael, write an essay about your privilege and the ways in which you can be considered an oppressor” to “Michael, sorry you are privileged and there is limited food, so you have to give your sandwich to Ja’Quan, thems the brakes” and see what people do. The current response to CRT will look tame.

    2. “It’s astonishing to me the left believes they can replicate their ideological control on the outside world with such obviously weak theories. But since they’ve already been far more successful than the substance of their theories justifies maybe I’m the one who doesn’t get it. Maybe reality really isn’t relevant, although I suspect over time it will reassert itself.”

      You said it, the left has grabbed so much power over the past 18 months, it has gone a lot further than I ever would have imagined. It seemingly has almost completely taken over corporate America, at least that is my impression.

      It’s like a huge part of the country is in a hypnotic trance. If Trump couldn’t break it, I don’t know what will. The self flagellation just gets worse and worse.

      1. If Trump couldn’t break it, I don’t know what will.

        I don’t think Trump was ever going to break this movement. He wasn’t familiar enough with the powers of government to understand how to fight this. The benefit of Trump was 4 years without the Feds doing everything they can to make it worse. But as we see the Feds are only a small part of the forces fighting to make America worse.

        The best path to break these forces is to recognize we’re a nation of laws and use them. The Florida Attorney General (I usually pick Texas as my example but DiSantis seems much more engaged) needs to prosecute the schools and businesses offering these trainings for Civil Rights Violations. They are both discriminatory and create a hostile work environment.

        I don’t know exactly what the available penalties are but we need massive fines and – in particular – a ban on any institution receiving federal funds who employs or contracts with any person so convicted. This movement has gotten rich leeching off the rest of us. The financial protection provided by academia is why they can be so aggressive and others cannot. Ending this advantage should be our top priority.

        1. Or maybe Florida State Gov just prohibits non-essential travel to states that teach CRT.

          1. That’s not enough.

            To combat that I think the states on Cali’s ban list should write laws that their people can’t travel to any state which enforces a ban list based on anything other than enforcing a ban list.

            1. Maybe oil and gas producing states could prohibit sales of those products to Cali. The woke folks would love it but they would be loving it without mains electricity.

              1. That seems like overkill so I wouldn’t do it regardless. But I can’t imagine a state has the authority to prohibit businesses from selling in other states. The travel ban is only directed at state employees.

        2. I think you’re right, Trump wasn’t familiar with how govt. works, nor was he aware of the scale of the problem. I think ultimately he understood, but it was far too late. I naively thought his blunt manner would “break the spell,” so to speak.

          CRT does seem like it violates Civil Rights, yet you have some places, like WA state, where the governor has mandated it be taught in every public school. If there’s a lawsuit over that, I have yet to hear about it. Likewise with some of the “racial sensitivity” courses employees are being subjected to in companies and municipalities all across the country.

          Opponents of this movement should also utilize pressure, a lot of it. That is the biggest challenge though, it seems like so many opposing CRT and whatever comes from that, just don’t have the will to fight it and are too busy with their own lives.

          1. some places, like WA state, where the governor has mandated it be taught in every public school.

            Right, it can’t happen in WA because the Dems control the legal system. But wins by red states define the framework for the next time Reps win the presidency. Even more importantly a few losses make both the left wing activists and the corporate poseurs realize there will be serious consequences their allies will not be able to protect them from. If any prosecution is successful many will stop the crazy long before they are actually prosecuted even in places controlled by Dems.

            it seems like so many opposing CRT and whatever comes from that, just don’t have the will to fight it and are too busy with their own lives.

            This is the genius of the left’s program. By capturing academia they divert it’s resources to support institutions who do this. DeAngelo doesn’t do this as a hobby or because she’s civic-minded. It’s her job. That’s why we need the legal institutions to do the work. Then we need to excise these activist organizations from academia, which will drastically reduce the number of people for whom extreme political activism is their job [paid by taxpayers to boot!].

    3. Or, we’ll all die from some cause we have yet to determine. 😉

  21. I’m still holding out a bit of hope that woke culture is only a moral panic, and that it will pass. I don’t believe that to be the case, though.

    Leftists like DiAngelo are the biggest frauds on the planet–egomaniacs, racists, bitter, low I.Q., incapable of introspection, perhaps even evil.

    1. Leftists like DiAngelo are the biggest frauds on the planet–egomaniacs, racists, bitter, low I.Q., incapable of introspection, perhaps even evil.

      Only “perhaps?” C’mon, you were doing great there. You sounded like Rev. Kirkland if he here sane. 🙂

      Otherwise, keep it up with the great descriptors.

    2. Yeah. I think I would take the Kardashians over self-righteous bigots like her.

  22. A bazillion years ago David Bring talked about societal adolescence. Our society had matured, but we weren’t quite adult but still in adolescence. We had gotten past serfs and lords, gotten past perpetual poverty, stamped out slavery, raised the standard of living on an exponential curve, but we hadn’t quite reached full maturity.

    As adolescents we were plagued with guilt. Consult Piaget for the details, but one thing adolescents tend to be is strict moralists and self-doubters. Every wrong gets magnified, every zit a repulsive disfigurement, every slight a deeply wounding conviction.

    An adolescent society seems unable to recognize it’s advances, but is focused on the remaining minor problems as if they were great obstacles to overcome, and if we can’t get past them immediately we have failed.

    Decades later we are worse than ever. We have in this society torn down the edifices to racism, solved all the large problems, we’ve gotten past racism. Hell, we even had a Black president. But in society’s adolescent mindset, we are worse than ever. We had to invent microaggressions to rail against.

    This is Anti-Racism in a nutshell. An adolescent’s grasp to assert that we’re still living in the depths of Jim Crow, that no advancements have been made, that racism is the worst it has ever been. And of course, the self righteous affluent Brooklynites are the worst of all. So of course the self righteous affluent Brooklynites are snapping up DiAngelo’s book!

    1. Pretty sure I know why chicks wouldn’t date you in HS.

      1. Because he can write a sentence?

        [I was personally “into” older women who appreciated my finer points]

        1. Love older women. Enough to have married two of them.

    2. Life, in terms of our overall standard of living, has also gotten far better over this time; but both immature persons and societies will focus on what they believe they do not have, and blame others for their unhappiness.

      I have always agreed with the notion of a society that was at some stage of immaturity [though not directly familiar with David Bring], but I do not believe that it will ever grow beyond it’s harmful adolescence. It is stuck on cynicism and blame and as such will eventually destroy itself.

  23. The left’s intellectual is exhausting shame narrative.

    It’s not logic, or reason, or even persuasion.

    The next step is violence against dissenters.

    1. I think the violence has already started, as far back as 2015/2016. I first noticed it at that San Jose Trump rally, where attendees were assaulted, beaten basically, when they left. Tha’ts what antifa is for now as well–to silence dissenters through violence. Just my two cents.

      1. Not the end of the story. When other push back against Antifa with equal violence, they’ll fold like the cowardly dogs they are.

    2. “It’s not logic, or reason,”

      Correct, but I do believe persuasion is at the heart of CRT; it eschews objectivity and evidence and relies on a subjective sense [“lived experience”] of imbedded and systemic racism and injustice to persuade others to buy into it. History is being rewritten for this very purpose; the Civil War, the Emancipation Proclamation, the Civil Rights Act; none of this matters as much as your unconscious bias.

      I recall when Obama was elected in 2008; there was talk among the mainstream chattering class that we were fast approaching a post racial society. That is when what had been obscure academic notions were brought into the mainstream; they could not let it end as the cudgel of racism had been far too effective. Want a sense of power and influence in today’s society? Claim victimhood and convince another group that they owe you redress and even compensation [aka reparations].

      I believe this endless harangue will result in worse relations and a resumption of hate. Even the dumbest progressive can only take so much of a beat down for so long. Eventually reality does set in and the con is perceived.

      1. I hope the hate is directed by the Progressives against each other.

        “Never stop your enemy when he’s about to make a mistake.” –Sun Tzu, The Art of War.

    3. Correct. It is not reason but it is Reason.

  24. “We must not ever consider our work toward racial justice to be finished,”

    Shortest and most accurate book review ever.

  25. So much for that “Judge people by the content of their character, not by the color of their skin” bullshit.

  26. only one word can describe her. c***

  27. Being a slayer of monsters is not a sustainable economic position. If your town is beset by a monster, you’re happy to pay the monster hunter as long as he’s fighting it. But if he kills the monster, you have no need to continue to pay him.

    If there are no more monsters to fight, it’s in his interest to invent monsters, to warn people of all the other monsters in the world that may show. They’re still out there, and there’s more of them. He makes a big show each day about leaving the town to bravely face down the monsters, to confront them. But in order to keep up this facade, he needs to manufacture evidence as well. Benign things become evidence of the monster. “It is said this monster can cause spontaneous bouts of illness.” He will give people things they can see and affirm. “When the leaves are disturbed like this, it is sign that the monster has been here.”

    Whenever people claim they may have seen or encountered the monster, praise them, laud their bravery. Reward them for having found it, give them all the validation they can crave. Others may start wondering if they’ve also seen signs of the monster; he affirms them that they definitely have, and reminds them how lucky they are that they’ve survived it. But he is at the forefront, he fights this monster every day, and every day he is barely able to survive, lucky to overcome it. This is the only way for him to sustain his business model because, if the monster proved sufficiently intrusive, they would have confronted it and vanquished it themselves.

    1. Well, someone has read the Witcher series

    2. Plenty of classic literature and movies with that very story line.

  28. I will give a small amount of credit where it’s due: in the last 15 years or so, this is about the closest I’ve seen anyone at Reason come to sort of acknowledging that there are actually two sides fighting the culture war.

    Nevertheless, it’s hard to avoid the sense that what chaps the ass of Park Slope Welchie Boy the most about this super-annoying cunt is that he goes out of his way to try to accommodate her monkey ass, and she thanks him by attacking him and his sort the same way she attacks all the other whiteys. You can almost see, hear, and feel him thinking “You’re supposed to go after the rednecks, why are you coming after me and my good, PC Park Slope neighbors, leave us alone!!”

    1. “…why are you coming after me and my good, PC Park Slope neighbors,”

      Because that is where the money is, and who buys her books and pays for her seminars.

  29. “ Nice Racism—and the “anti-racism” consulting business—rakes in the bucks while losing hearts and minds.”

    Hell, people like her lost their minds a long time ago.

  30. “There is deep racial resentment roiling just under the surface of many white people”
    – Robin DiAngelo

    Resentment over what? If what you say is true, white people are on top socially and economically. Why would they be resentful?

    Conservatives like to halfway joke about liberals being the real racists. The more I hear from the CRT hustlers, the more I believe it.

    1. Those ain’t liberals. I’ve noticed that a lot of self-idetified progressives have actually started expressing disdain for liberals. So perhaps some meaningful distinction remains.

      The resentment idea is weird enough. Another thing that makes no sense to me is the notion that white people benefit from racism. How? Is it just more stupid zero-sum thinking or what? White people don’t benefit from persistent black poverty, or (outside of some narrow interests) from blacks being disproportionately incarcerated. No one benefits from not hiring the best person for the job because of stupid racial prejudices. Racism is dumb and a drag on society. It doesn’t benefit anyone. These race hustlers are making racism seem like a great deal for white people, when it just isn’t for anyone. And they are backing up the arguments of actual white supremacist racists.
      Anyone who gives a fuck should be making the case that racism is harmful to all of society, because it is.

      1. Your comment seems to assume that the word, the idea, the conception of ‘racism’ is a White-race-only phenomenon. If so, you have already been indoctrinated. Assuming that White people alone are capable of racism is exactly what this woman is making millions of dollars explaining.
        The going truth that non-white people are incapable of racism is what led us all to this Thing publishing books and having lecture tours in the first place. If that is true, where are all the White racists? When was the last time anyone saw a Grand Imperial Admiral Supreme Dragon Master of the KKK interviewed on TV, radio, magazine, newspaper, or other major media outlet spewing their views on race? This woman has written Books (multiple) on the subject, as well as hundreds of others…when was the last Best-Seller published by a member of a White-supremacist group? Published at all? Can you name a single leader of a White supremacist organization? Who was the last KKK member who was on a best-seller list for their book about race, what other White racist groups are there besides the aforementioned? There are supposed to be thousands, millions, of members in these groups, what are the names of these groups, who are the millions?
        These mythical ‘racist’ groups, whose numbers are, mythically, legion, are supposedly out there…and are driving an entire industry speaking out against them , exposing them, to the point that it is now becoming main-stream talking points – for God’s sake the President of the United States said White people are the biggest threat to National Security today.
        The assumption that White people are the sole owners of racism promotes a doctrine that is not only main-stream, but is becoming an accepted idea (thanks to the publicity of books like this latest) and becoming an issue that the Federal Government is accepting and actually addressing – for NOW in lip service, but soon to be followed with LAW. In a nation founded, grounded and supported by LAW, this should terrify everyone living here.
        White people do not own racism. Stop thinking this is true.

        1. I don’t think that in the least and I don’t know why you would think so. I was simply responding to the claims made by people like DiAngelo and their assumptions.

        2. Furthermore the current trend is to be anti-racist. If, by their thinking, racist == all white people, then substituting, they are really just anti-all white people.

    2. Liberals are the most racist people in society. Especially white liberals. “The soft bigotry of low expectations.”

    3. That joke is anything but half way.

  31. DiAngelo is the ultimate Karen.

    1. She is a KKKaren

    2. Karen is a very racist, sexist and ageist term by it’s very definition. It’s hard to believe how freely it’s being thrown about.

      Karen = middle aged, white women who use their privilege to demand they get their way

  32. “”A window on my block bears the hand-scrawled sign “INACTION = CONSENT,” a Manichean formulation that DiAngelo echoes throughout her follow-up to the 2018 smash hit White Fragility “”

    Really? So she would agree that the metoo movement and democrats are consenting to Cuomo’s and Biden’s sexual harassments?

    1. And all those women who stayed silent about the creepy Hollywood shit so they could have their careers until it became cool not to were apparently consenting as well.

  33. That guilt-peddling cunt can shove her opinions right back up the anus in the middle of her face.

    -jcr

  34. Segregationist editor Matt Welch.

  35. Who in all honesty gives a fucking shit. Why elevate these narcissists and racists. They had their 15 minutes, tell em to go sit at the back of the bus again because they are fucking boring, craven, bootlicking leftie shits.

  36. Don’t think that marrying a black man gives you a pass: “Sadly, many white women don’t demonstrate that their cross-racial relationships have provided a deeper understanding.”

    That is seriously some of the most hateful shit imaginable. Actually loving a black person enough to want to spend the rest of your life with them isn’t as worthwhile as virtual signaling. Fuck off. I can’t wait until the backlash crushes this miserable racist garbage.

    1. “Not even letting black men run a train on you absolves you of your whiteness, but you should let them do it anyway as a form of penance.”

  37. I love this quote: “I was left wondering, yet again, what happens cognitively for so many white people in anti-racism education efforts that prevents them from actually hearing what is being presented.”

    The notion that her message might have been heard yet rejected doesn’t even seem to be worthy of comment.

    1. It’s the hubris, the cockiness, the Elitism, the unmitigated gall of these people that is just so mind blowing. It’s reinforced in their echo chambers, ivory towers and safe spaces and when they come out in the open they can’t even imagine that anyone would disagree with them.

      1. “”It’s the hubris, the cockiness, the Elitism, the unmitigated gall of these people that is just so mind blowing.””

        ^^This.
        I think society ends up pushing back on those people when the newness wears off.

        Her next book will be a rant of way everyone hates her.

    2. Defy her authority at your own risk.

  38. I won’t be surprised if/when it comes out that this woman is a flaming racist and the Left cancels her. Telling people what they want to hear won’t cut it.

    1. She hasn’t provided sufficient evidence already?

  39. Ok, so if it’s impossible for a white person not to be racist, then they might as well go back to freely using the N-word and ask Ms D’Angelo where to find the best fried chicken and watermelon. Seriously…

    1. Exactly. Might as well, yeah?

      1. Sadly Inonow a few people who have resigned themselves to this. If they are supposed to have all this power and privelage but find themselves in mid-life dulldroms or strife, hard jobs, trying to make ends meet, wanting at least a decent life for their kids… then they begin to say “I guess trying to be good and not use this supposed power hasn’t protected me from “being racist” then I might as well get mine for me and others like me.” If the left is going to use “the system” against whites and males and in favor of minoroties, then they figure they should go ahead and play the game themselves.

  40. So why did you buy her book Matt, then complain about how much money she’s making ?

    1. It’s his job to warn the rest of us.
      You cannot get an honest evaluation if you don’t view it.

      1. Well, there is the library

      2. He knows porn when he sees it. Even race porn.

  41. I looked up “twatwaffle” in the dictionary, and this turd’s picture was there.

  42. Funny that the usual suspects, who have been bending over backwards the last few days to whine about how those meanies are attacking CRT and that just isn’t fair and it’s just another pointless culture war wedge issue, are conspicuously absent from this thread.

    I guess it’s hard for even them to defend one of the media stars of this movement flat-out stating “It doesn’t matter what white people do or say, they’re still racist and always will be.”

    1. I was thinking exactly the same. This lady has essentially taken CRT to its logical conclusion, and surprise surprise, it ended (as it always does) with flat out whitey-is-evil racism.

      Im sure they would instantly respond with the “but she isnt teaching REAL CRT” as joy reid tried to do…she is a critical whiteness studies expert…

      Seems they cant spin this one as “She is just trying to talk about slavery! Why can’t we even have a CONVERSATION about race?!?!”

      I could imagine Tony attempting to defend her, as it seems like he would be in lock step with her thought process (and probably just a few IQ points below her)

  43. Engaging with this woman and those of her ilk is a sucker’s game.

    They only way to win is not to play.

    1. Except not engaging with them is essentially conceding the battlefield. Even if they are batshit insane, which DiAngelo clearly is, they have the support of very powerful institutions who can set their agenda as the civic consensus.

      The key is recognizing that their arguments are made in bad faith and treat them as such. And yeah, you need to attack their personality and character defects as well, because their lunacy is a big part in why they believe these things.

    2. The best move is to not engage directly. She is not worthy of retort, and your desired audience (the “normies”) isn’t even watching. Engage with the institutions instead.

      If your schoolchildren are divided into “racial affinity groups”, then barge into the principal’s office demanding to know when Brown Vs Board was repealed and ask for one good reason why you shouldn’t call your lawyer. If your employer makes you endure racist training, file a civil rights complaint.

      The people in charge of implementing these policies aren’t primarily going to be CRT hardliners, and you will find allies up and down the chain of command who are uncomfortable with the message. You’ll find that the support for the most extreme versions will collapse quite readily once the dog starts wagging its tail instead of the tail wagging the dog.

      This will also serve to push towards a center rather than a pendulum swing. With the threats of civil right suits, institutions won’t cancel all racial/sex/inclusivity education, but they will trim it back to omit the “all whites are evil” and more overt problems like racial quotas. Hopefully we will get to a profitable middle ground that is more reminiscent of Dr King’s dream.

      1. “If your employer makes you endure racist training, file a civil rights complaint.”

        Economics makes cowards out of all of us. BTDT!

    3. They don’t engage. They just present the same narrative relentlessly.

      The put forward incredibly controversial re-definitions of terms like “racism”, “individualism”, etc., as if they are the well-known conclusions of experts who somehow just forgot to explain how they arrived there, and then treat people like evil idiots for disagreeing.

      She explicitly flat out said that she’s redefining racism because she wasnt getting the society she wanted from the real definition. And then, somehow, it’s everyone else’s fault she has a hard time persuading them.

      I’m sorry, but you should expect difficulty in persuading people when you’re using words wrong. Communications 101. It’s not the world, it’s you, silly.

  44. Robin DiAngelo is a profiteering egotistical idiot.
    But no big deal — there are a lot of them around, a constant — more or less — of life.

    The problem is that her particular idiocy seems to be swallowed whole by our so-called leaders — in government, in the academy, in the media. Not only do they listen to her mindless rants, but they give her perversities both platform and amplification. Painful to witness; more painful to experience.

    Sometimes, though, she’s right (much like the blind pig and the acorn); she tells us: “Those born different… are too often denied individual agency and instead categorized negatively into a group identity.”

    Of course they are.
    But is she so blind that she fails utterly to see that THAT is, in fact, exactly what her whole spiel does? The entirety of her routine (think stand-up-comedy) presents nothing but negative categorizations of ‘people-groups’ into her especially hated, stereotypical boxes. ‘White People Are This’ / ‘Black People That’. Yada yada yada.

    Does she not understand her own reductionism?

    Hell Robin, we’re ALL born different. Every single one of us, even you: different. Every single one of us KNOWS we’re alone; we know we’re separate. We ARE distinct…no matter how much you think we are the same. Is that not the common state of humanity, from birth to death…that individuality, that separateness?

    And equally, yes, “no man an island”. Equally we share, Ms. DiAngelo, not only that common humanity (even you!), but equally we share countless other demographic, social, intellectual, emotional and psychological commonalities.

    Do you, Ms. DiAngelo deny each of us that agency, our individuality, the intersectional fact that yes, we’re White … Black…. Latino….Tall…Short….Fat….Fit…a college grad…a mechanic…a line worker….a mother, father, brother, small town girl….a dancer, a musician, an artist, one of those guys who can fix anything, a saint, a sinner, a member of mmmmmmy generation (or not)? Do you prefer the mindless simplicity offered by your blind & childish color binary?

    Group memberships do not say who we are; your labels do not define us, do not limit us. The genetic boxes you seem to prefer are not our destiny. Our futures are not writ nor would we wish such a horror.

    So stop it. Stop the closed-end boxing of human potential and human dream. We are not WHAT we are. We are especially NOT what you think we are. Rather we are what we do, how we think, what we say. We are always a WHO and not a WHAT. We are far, far more Dim Robin, than are dreamt of in you philosophy. Thank God. Sad and rather pathetic that you refuse to recognize this fundamental truth.

  45. ““We must not ever consider our work toward racial justice to be finished,””

    Translation to reality: you must give up control over yourself permanently to this movement.

    1. The worst of Trotskyism and the worst of Maoism in one retarded package.

  46. “In addition, given that the writer is a white man chastising a white woman with more knowledge of the matter than he has, it also nicely illustrates the intersection of white and male arrogance: both whitesplaining and mansplaining,” she snarls.

    Because you could never look at her entire career as something akin to some version of ‘splaining.

    1. She’s clearly deeply embarrassed that her entire career is entirely due to the patronage and support of white men, and is lashing out in her embarrassment.

    2. Cuntsplaining.

  47. Her work is so deeply flawed and unfair to her subjects that she should be embarrassed.

    https://escholarship.org/uc/item/5fm4h8wm

    “Sue,” who had been sitting next to a white man, “Bill,” approached me and declared, “Bill and I think we should all just see each other as individuals.” Although in my work moments like this occur frequently, they continue to disorient me on two interconnected levels.

    The Discourse of Individualism is a specific set of ideas, words, symbols, and metaphors—a storyline or narrative—that creates, communicates, reproduces, and reinforces the concept that each of us are unique individuals and that our group memberships, such as our race, class, or gender, are not important or relevant to our opportunities (Flax, 1999).

    So, Bill and Sue show up and present their ethical ideal of treating people as individuals, and DeAngelo straw mans their sentiment into a factual claim that our race, class, and gender are not important or relevant.

    No, you idiot. They’e saying an “ought”, not an “is”. They’re saying they want to treat people as individuals, without making assumptions or judgements based on race, class, and gender.

    This is why people accuse CRT advocates of racism. You basically say “I don’t want to be racist!” and they say “no, you will be racist!”

    1. Individualism being correct is the reason that racism is usually wrong. It would be completely wrong of me to assume things about an individual person because of that person’s group status as it relates to IQ, education, criminal history, violent tendencies, etc. exactly because, while inferences can be made from general populations, every individual isn’t predictably consistent within every category or judgement. For example, just because fewer white people play in the NBA doesn’t mean white people can’t play basketball.

      The entire reason slavery is wrong is because it denies people their right to self-ownership as individuals.

      They’re hostility to individualism is the most dangerous part of their ideology, exactly because it’s designed to lay the foundation of racism and slavery.

      1. What? Don’t you know, white men can’t jump.

        Hell, they even made a movie about it. 😉

    2. Note that Flax’s thesis came out right around the time that “whiteness” studies had become a popular trend amongst humanities scholars and social scientists. Not really an accident, I suspect, that a left-wing academic would propose a thesis down-talking individualism during that period.

    3. The Discourse of Individualism is a specific set of ideas, words, symbols, and metaphors—a storyline or narrative—that creates, communicates, reproduces, and reinforces the concept that each of us are unique individuals and that our group memberships, such as our race, class, or gender, are not important or relevant to our opportunities (Flax, 1999).

      Power language. Now we need Nick G to swoop in and say none of this has to do with Post Modernism.

  48. I guess there is no way ‘out.’ If you’re White, you’re guilty and there is no way of thinking and there is no way of rectifying your guilt. There is no way to atone – you’re guilty because of your skin color and your skin color proves you are mentally insane and unable to reach any conclusion. In fact, the desire to reach a conclusion shows your mental defectiveness. White people are not even close to being 2/3 a human being. They are sub-human, insane beings who must be eradicated from the face of the Earth. So says the White woman who is making millions and is a media darling peddling this (True – says the Ministry of Truth) multiplicity of books and speeches.
    For the sake of easing the slow torture, the picking at the scab, just please grow a spine and declare the White race illegal – once and for all. Just say it, draw up the Bill and pass it. The world does not need another Kristalnacht, another series of restrictions imposed on an inferior, sub-human race, a slow move toward the ghetto and eventually the ovens – just skip all the prerequisites and enact the Sub-Human Eradication Bill and start the exterminations. There is no other Solution. I will go gladly to the showers, smiling all the while, knowing that the elimination of my personal insanity, my personal invasion and intrusion on this Earth while small, is a step toward the cleansing of this planet. A small step, yes, but a step nonetheless, and I will revel in Hell for eternity knowing my evil is being punished and can never be redeemed….
    Drop Dead.

    1. If you’re White, you’re guilty and there is no way of thinking and there is no way of rectifying your guilt. There is no way to atone – you’re guilty because of your skin color and your skin color proves you are mentally insane and unable to reach any conclusion. In fact, the desire to reach a conclusion shows your mental defectiveness.

      These people basically took the lunatic melanin-obsessions of Francis Cress Wellsing and black lesbian academics of the 1970s to their logical conclusion.

    2. This plays even better:

      I guess there is no way ‘out.’ If you’re Black, you’re guilty and there is no way of thinking and there is no way of rectifying your guilt. There is no way to atone – you’re guilty because of your skin color and your skin color proves you are mentally insane and unable to reach any conclusion. In fact, the desire to reach a conclusion shows your mental defectiveness. Black people are not even close to being 2/3 a human being. They are sub-human, insane beings who must be eradicated from the face of the Earth. So says the White woman who is making millions and is a media darling peddling this (True – says the Ministry of Truth) multiplicity of books and speeches.
      For the sake of easing the slow torture, the picking at the scab, just please grow a spine and declare the Black race illegal – once and for all. Just say it, draw up the Bill and pass it. The world does not need another Kristalnacht, another series of restrictions imposed on an inferior, sub-human race, a slow move toward the ghetto and eventually the ovens – just skip all the prerequisites and enact the Sub-Human Eradication Bill and start the exterminations. There is no other Solution. I will go gladly to the showers, smiling all the while, knowing that the elimination of my personal insanity, my personal invasion and intrusion on this Earth while small, is a step toward the cleansing of this planet. A small step, yes, but a step nonetheless, and I will revel in Hell for eternity knowing my evil is being punished and can never be redeemed….

  49. Her whole shtick of “all cultural discourses are narratives created in environments of oppression to serve the powerful, except for my narrative that I’m pushing right now” is such self-contradictory special pleading it’s ridiculous.

    “Everything is lie except what I’m telling you!” No, it’s not, you gaslighting bitch.

  50. The real mystery is why do people want to pay lots of money to be insulted?

    Heck, I can do it for half the price.

    “Hey Robin, your ugly. Fat too. And your book is the intellectual equivalent of three-day-old bread.”

    That’ll be $ 500. I take Zelle and Paypal.

  51. According to this ditz, I’m a hopeless racist. OK, I accept that and I’ll just avoid all black people in the future since I can’t possibly do anything that won’t offend them. Message received.

    1. I believe Liberia is still accepting immigrants.

  52. For the love of God, more articles like this, Matt. Thank you.

  53. When in Rome do as the Romans do . Living in NY it’s impossible to not encounter people of different races and ethnic backgrounds. If I’m in a part of town different from mine I don’t try to change the way people living there do things. I just adapt to the way things are. When ever your in the minority a guy with all woman young with old etc you can sometimes feel a bit out of place. There might be things I disagree with but occasionally I see a better way to do things. Keep in mind the way things are done in the White community are imposed mainly on other whites. Working in a black community for 25 yrs. I noticed people where more sympathetic to someone being down on there luck in general than where I come from. That can seem like a white person looking down on another group but in reality it’s a standard that white people hold mostly other whites to . Racism prejudice stereotyping against other people is in almost
    everyone to a certain extent . For me I don’t
    worry what other people are thinking it’s how
    I’m treated and how I treat other people that
    matters most.

  54. There’s only one proper response to this load of nonsense:
    A big, hearty, FUCK YOU, followed by a walk-away.

  55. This stuff she’s pushing … it’s a cult.

    1. And quickly becoming a political movement. That should scare us all.

  56. I do not really pay that much attention to this stuff. I still remember the days of real segregation and racial prejudice. We have come a long way. I know it is still there. I will stick with what I know. The path of MLK and those who broke the boundaries.

    Anyway here is something I found by gospel singer James Wilson. Nicely done.

    From Psalm 133. It means “behold how good and pleasant it is for brothers to live together in peace”

    https://youtu.be/NSx3DBqA8UA

  57. She’s clearly deeply embarrassed that her entire career is entirely due to the patronage and support of white men, and is lashing out in her embarrassment.

    https://packagespoint.com/7starhd/

  58. I’ve got a suggestion for her next book–how about her doing a study of the seriously dysfunctional black subculture in this country? You know, the counter-productive subculture that has produced all those fatherless families, the worship of thuggery, the subculture that has infiltrated mainstream entertainment with out-and-out porn like the kind of trash produced by Cardi B and much of that talentless, filth known as rap music? The disparagement of education as “being white,” the embrace of things like affirmative action and de-facto quotas as opposed to advancement by merit–something blacks only seem to approve of in sports like the NBA and NFL–and do all this, for a change, without blaming “whitey?”

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