Anthony Fauci Says It's 'Too Soon To Tell' Whether Christmas Parties Will Be Allowed
Overcautious health officials are living on another planet.

Anthony Fauci is not sure whether Christmas might have to be canceled yet again this year. On Sunday, the White House's top coronavirus adviser told CBS News host Margaret Brennan that it was "too soon to tell" whether Americans will receive the public health bureaucracy's permission to celebrate the holidays with friends and family members.
"We can gather for Christmas, or it's just too soon to tell?" Brennan asked.
"You know, Margaret, it's just too soon to tell," said Fauci. "We just got to concentrate on continuing to get those numbers down and not try to jump ahead by weeks or months and say what we're going to do at a particular time. Let's focus like a laser on continuing to get those cases down."
Margaret Brennan: "We can gather for Christmas, or it's just too soon to tell?"
Fauci: "You know, Margaret, it's just too soon to tell. We've just gotta concentrating on continuing to get those numbers down, & not try to jump ahead by weeks or months…"pic.twitter.com/535eSKq8aN
— Jerry Dunleavy ???????? (@JerryDunleavy) October 3, 2021
Here's another question for Fauci: What planet are you living on?
Many modelers now believe that we have surpassed the peak of the delta variant's wave, and expect that COVID-19 cases will fall precipitously in the coming weeks and months. That's great news: Widespread vaccination is working to counter delta's increased transmissibility while significantly decreasing severe disease and death.
But even if cases remain higher in the winter months than we are hoping for, it's simply not realistic to expect Americans to skip Christmas parties for another year in a row. Indeed, except for pockets of extreme restrictions and compliance—elite college campuses, for instance—many if not most Americans have already gone back to something resembling normal life. People are socially gathering, attending sports games and concerts, and traveling for leisure. Some individuals practice greater caution than others—the number of (presumably) vaccinated outdoor mask-wearers in Washington, D.C., is fairly high—but the country has opened up again. Parties are taking place right now, and this is not exactly a secret: America's social elites are practically flaunting their pandemic-is-over status.
Of course, there remains one group that is stubbornly scared of doing normal things: epidemiologists. Throughout the pandemic, infectious disease experts have urged their fellow Americans to avoid virtually all social contact; surveys of epidemiologists routinely reveal that they are afraid of many normal activities, even post-vaccination. As recently as May, most of them would have refused a hug.
According to a recent, informal poll of 27 health experts, they are still incredibly wary.

Of the 27 surveyed health experts—all of whom are presumably vaccinated—22 would refuse to see a movie, and 18 would decline to eat at an indoor restaurant. More than half would skip a wedding.
The experts can exercise whatever level of caution they deem appropriate for themselves. If Fauci would like to spend Christmas by himself, that is his right. But we should not allow the most risk-averse government health bureaucrats to set the standards for everyone else. The vaccinated have done everything that was asked of them, and are incredibly protected from negative COVID-19 health outcomes. The idea that it's an open question whether we will be celebrating Christmas this year is laughable.
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The fact that a creature like this is allowed to exist, is a shame to this country. Fuck him and Biden.
He should be in prison for his crimes against humanity.
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Hey Fauci get this..FUCK OFF! I will celebrate Christmas no matter what you freaks say period! You Retarded Monkey Democrats shut your pet up he is being stupid again! Stop thinking We The People give a shit what you Freaks of Nature Mental Defects want or say period! You fucked with us for over a year and we put a stop to that so go in your shitholes and give it up. We The People will NEVER COMPLY WITH YOUR STUPID SHIT AGAIN EVER!
Fuck off sarc.
I'm pretty sure that's a legit comment, not mockery.
Spirit of Christmas: Be kind to those around you.
Americans: I am going to have fun and I don't care who I hurt.
Shorter Molly: Damned Freedom!
Christ highly valued compassion and assistance to the weak, poor, and sick.
He also hated hypocrites and liars.
Bad news for you.
He actually chased them with a whip.
Stop confusing them with facts!
He whipped the moneychangers, not the poor, weak, or sick.
He would have whipped you. But not even he was able to foresee the invention of something THAT pathetic.
He whipped the moneychangers, not the poor, weak, or sick.
That’s correct
Molly comes out against the Federal Reserve.
Those moneychangers were Jews following the tenets of their religion charging only non-Jews interest in their markets.
It demonstrates the religion based corrupt pyramid scheme of a secret society.
Defeated, holocaust denying misfit chokes on Jewish cock against his will for all eternity?
Our market economy is based on gambling over interest.
The men who designed it saw fit to include recessions and depressions as an instant easy button for the redistribution of wealth from the masses to the rich.
Being rich is about having more than you need. That affords protection from coercion. Conflict arises when greed inspires taking so much more than you need resulting in others getting less than they need. Those people are easy to coerce. The moment they have what they need, they are no longer as susceptible to coercion.
Freemasonry is nothing more that a corrupt pyramid scheme by a secret society. Members advance by advancing only members. This creates and perpetuates the rich and the poor, haves and have nots. Personally I’m not in favour of an economy based on coercion, not many have nots are either, which is why it is founded on lies and secrecy.
This is the most basic premise of satanism and exactly what Christianity opposes.
Are these Jewish leaders and media lying about Jews owning freemasonry?
THE JEWISH TRIBUNE, New York, Oct. 28, 1927, Cheshvan 2, 5688, Vol. 91, No. 18: “Masonry is based on Judaism. Eliminate the teachings of Judaism from the Masonic ritual and what is left?”
LA VERITE ISRAELITE, Jewish paper 1861, IV, page 74: “The spirit of Freemasonry is the spirit of Judaism in its most fundamental beliefs; it is its ideas, its language, it is mostly its organization, the hopes which enlighten and support Israel. It’s crowning will be that wonderful prayer house of which Jerusalem will be the triumphal centre and symbol.”
LE SYMBOLISM, July, 1928: “The most important duty of the Freemason must be to glorify the Jewish Race, which has preserved the unchanged divine standard of wisdom. You must rely upon the Jewish race to dissolve all frontiers.”
AN ENCYCLOPEDIA OF FREEMASONRY,Philadelphia, 1906: “Each Lodge is and must be a symbol of the Jewish temple; each Master in the Chair, a representative of the Jewish King; and every Mason a personification of the Jewish workman.”
MANUAL OF FREEMASONRY, by Richard Carlile: “The Grand Lodge Masonry of the present day is wholly Jewish.”
THE FREEMASON, April 2, 1930, quoting Br. Rev. S. McGowan: “Freemasonry is founded on the ancient law of Israel. Israel has given birth to the moral beauty which forms the basis of Freemasonry.”
Rabbi Br. Isaac Wise, in The Israelite of America, March 8, 1866: “Masonry is a Jewish institution whose history, degrees, charges, passwords and explanations are Jewish from beginning to end.”
Benjamin Disraeli, Jew, Prime Minister of England, in The Life of Lord George Bentick: “At the head of all those secret societies, which form provisional governments, men of the Jewish race are to be found.”
LATOMIA, a German Masonic journal, Vol. 12, July 1849, Page 237: “We cannot help but greet socialism (Marxism – Communism) as an excellent comrade of Freemasonry for ennobling mankind, for helping to further human welfare. Socialism and Freemasonry, together with Communism are sprung from the same source.”
BERNARD STILLMAN, Jew, in Hebraic influences on Masonic Symbolism, 1929, quoted The Masonic News, London: “I think I have proved sufficiently that Freemasonry, as what concurs symbolism, lays entirely on a formation which is essentially Jewish.”
O.B. Good, M.A. in The Hidden Hand of Judah, 1936: “The influence of the Jewish Sanhedrin is today more powerful than ever in Freemasonry.”
JEWISH ENCYCLOPEDIA, 1903, Vol, 5, page 503: “The technical language, symbolism and rites of Freemasonry are full of Jewish ideas and terms … In the Scottish Rite, the dates on official documents are given according to the era and months of the Jewish calendar, and use is made of the Hebraic alphabet.”
B’NAI B’RITH MAGAZINE, Vol. 13, page 8, quoting rabbi and mason Magnin: “The B’nai B’rith are but a makeshift. Everywhere that Freemasonry can admit that it is Jewish in its nature as well as in its aims, the ordinary lodges are sufficient for the task.
The ADL (Anti-Defamation League) of B’nai B’rith is a totally Jewish controlled organization with its main goal to destroy Christianity. (Also, the B’nai B’rith form a super-Masonic lodge where no “Gentiles” are admitted.)
TRANSACTIONS OF THE JEWISH HISTORICAL SOCIETY Vol. 2, p 156: “The Coat of Arms used by the Grand Lodge of England is entirely composed of Jewish symbols. FREEMASONS WORSHIP LUCIFER!
Fuck off and die, Nazi scum.
Whatever makes you shit your pants.
You might as well call me the bogeyman for the same affect on me.
Rob, Don't worry. These are the usual replies you will always get from those who cannot rebuke what you wrote. The same for anyone else who does not agree with the accepted narrative.
I find your bibliography to be very well done.
Thanks
I, too, am now totally convinced of whatever it is you were trying to prove. Thanks to these random quotes without context said back when the Hapsburg Empire was still a thing. Something about Jews and Masons, indeed!
Nobody wants your used yarmulke.
Fuckin' LOL at Molly parroting the Smug Atheist meme.
“Jesus was a hippie.”
Jesus Was A Capricorn
He sure did. And he stressed that it only has value if it comes from the heart. Giving assistance with a gun in your back isn't what he was talking about.
What were His thoughts on hypocrites who demand you do something that they refuse to do themselves?
Yes he did. Through voluntary philanthropy. At what point did he advocate forced redistribution of wealth at the tip of the Roman spear?
That’s the problem with all you marxists. You have zero use for religion or figures like Christ, unless it’s to pervert his message, which you clearly don’t understand, as a means to charity shame Christians into supporting your totalitarian Marxist designs. Which all makes you a horrible person.
"Settle down Beavis!"
Not everyone had Christian parents. Or any religion at all. So they don't even know what "sacred" means. It's a concept they cannot understand. It ain't their fault.
That said, they're still wrong.
Yet she posted about it as if she knew what she was talking about. And she’s a lefty. And here you are defending her.
And yes I put you and me in the collective "we" because I was raised that way.
Oooh. Let’s talk more about sarc.
Will you go out on a date with sarc and talk about your shared childhood experience with religion? Please?!!?
Which has precisely nothing to do with whether government bureaucrats can prohibit voluntary celebrations by consenting adults, especially when those consenting adults are neither weak, poor, sick or a risk to those who are.
Your fake compassion in defense of authoritarianism has worn thin. And that's before pointing out the raging hypocrisy of your policy preferences - policies which demonstrably hurt the very people you claim to want to help.
Make no mistake, Jesus would consign a retched unclean totalitarian creature like you straight to Hell. And rightly so.
"Be kind to those around you."
Exactly. Don't expect them to live their lives for your benefit, just because your risk tolerance level is extremely low and theirs isn't.
Americans: I am going to have fun and I don’t care who I hurt.
If they haven't gotten vaccinated yet then fuck 'em. They are aksing to die.
Can’t wait till the vaccine stops your heart.
So you're one of those anti-vaccine CT nutters?
I tell you what. I am not going to be an asshole and wish death on someone just because we disagree on some lame web site. Go get the vaccine because it may save your life.
You just did wish death on people, you lunatic!
He really is astonishingly evil.
He's like if Rush Limbaugh had made a cartoon embodying every malicious prog stereotype ever, and it came to life and started fifty-centing on Reason.
And he has been doing it for decades. His first handle was "Shrike", which is why old timers here call him "shreek".
Your not going to be an asshole by wishing death on someone, you just going to be an asshole by being a pedofile
A lot of people who don’t want to be vaccinated have already had KungFlu you idiot child rapist. The whole pint of a vaccine isn’t to replicate the natural immunity acquired after having had the virus.
Why aren’t you capable of understanding such a simple concept?
Participating in the dissemination of child pornography hurts the children.
No, they aren’t you retarded fucking monkey.
If Buttplug rapes children, he is asking to die.
That fits much better.
GFY
LOL you ABSOLUTELY defeated, whiny, pathetic bootlicker. 😀 😀 😀
Dont worry, since the evil killer virus came to town, I think Santa Clause now delivers presents to addresses that are under a rock as well. Just call your local elf office.
"Clause" was my phone. Must be a leftist, telling from how dumb it is.
Molly: I can't wait to be a slave and I want everyone else to be one too!!
Progs like Molly delusional believe they will sit t the master’s table, and not be consigned to the slave quarters.
Ramadan activities still allowed, no?
Ramadan is in April next year
You’re absolutely right and the bigots here need to be offended. It shows that they fear truth even if they won’t accept it. That’s a useful internal conflict to gift them.
The worst thing about this pandemic besides the deaths and permanent illness isn’t the lockdowns, it’s the lie and cover up about its US funded lab origin.
People may lie to themselves for the brief delusion of peace of mind, but to maintain that delusion they’re going to need to lie to others, coercing them. At which point that stupidity is evil.
Huh? Did the shit eating holocaust denier say something?
I refute what I deny. You never have.
Your facts are pathetic and you keep your bile alive on bullshit.
Fuck off and die, Nazi scum.
You have never refuted my facts.
Do you know what that makes you?
Hahaha.
All your ‘facts’ have been repeatedly refuted here. You just ignore that and keep on making your Nazi claims.
Bullshit pathetic guy.
I challenge you to prove where you or anyone else here has refuted anything I’ve said.
Provide a link and describe it.
All I expect from a pathetic liar like you now is awkward silence.
That’s rich. The anti Semitic nazi Holocaust denier who longs for the extermination of Jews calls others ‘bigots’.
Pathetic.
Go fuck yourself.
You can all celebrate unmasked with the Obamas . Visa and Mastercard accepted.
And Fauci, being one of the anointed hypocrites, will be at the party too. Fuck all these fucking piece of shit assholes.
Every single one of their parties, Pelosi's, Obama's, Newsome's, London Breed's, AOC's gala, Gretchen Whitmer's, etc. featured unmasked elites being served by masked helots.
It's straight out of some sort of dystopian fantasy... and it's beyond obvious that none of them actually believe the rhetoric that they're using to justify their repression of the serfs.
And guess what? None of them are dead yet.
True, my hopes are dashed.
This is the most frustrating part.
Geeze, did you have to point out the negatives?
"The vaccinated have done everything that was asked of them..."
That was their first mistake.
Now they get to enjoy life long booster shots.
And are still being told to mask.
I know wingnuts hate this guy but where exactly does he say Christmas parties won't be allowed?
This is nowhere nearly as bad as the Reagan 'Just Say No' campaign in the 80's because those assholes made cool new drugs illegal to possess.
I will go to a fucking Christmas party if I want to despite their advice not to.
One of you wingnuts let me know if attending a Christmas party becomes illegal and I will join you in calling our government a fascist one.
Jesus, aren’t you an evil mendacious fuck.
Do you ever have any logical rebuttal? Or are you some half-wit version of Sevo?
Yes, aren’t ad hominems just the WORST?
You do know about Sevo.
Woosh
Sevo doesn't do ad hominems.
Ad hominem is "You're a poo-poo head and that means whatever you say is wrong!"
Veracity is determined by the person, not what they said. That's JesseAz's schtick.
Saying "What you said is really fucking stupid. So stupid I think your head is full of poo!" is an observation.
So when Sevo hobbles around in his walker shouting "Leftist! I see a leftist! Aaauuugghh!" he's not engaging in ad hominem. He's engaging in elderly dementia.
*I imagine every Sevo post in Abe Simpson's voice*
Sure he's bombastic, but Sevo is still dead right about the pair of you, and his method is probably better than trying to engage with your trolling asses.
Except that Sevo is nothing more than a stupider than normal Trumptard. You don't even have to mention Trump in a post and he starts calling people names and becomes unhinged. It is possible to despise Trump and not be a liberal. (Except in Sevo's BB in a boxcar brain.) He's the other side of the coin from Tony.
His lifelong dream appears to be performing fellatio on The Donald. Maybe he will get his wish at Trump's Christmas party.
As for Fauci, he can go fuck himself - I do not need his permission to see my family during the holidays. We will be as careful as we can be and obviously not come if we are sick, but the notion that this fascistic piece of shit thinks he can tell me whether I can be with the people I love demonstrates his delusions of grandeur.
Fortunately, he is 80, and will be burning in hell sooner than later.
Also, what's with the homosexual shipping you're doing with him and Nardz here?
https://reason.com/2021/10/03/how-the-cdc-became-americas-landlord/#comment-9138013
I knew that you fantasized about everyone jerking off before, but this is the first time I've seen someone write a gay fanfic about Sevo and Nardz.
The booze makes him do it.
Been drinking since dawn.
Eww.
So broken.
Lol
Lol. Attack after muting like a lol bitch? Always stirring shit up.
You do know that you are a deviant piece of shit that posted child porn links here, right?
Are you going to keep pretending there are no sanctions for disobeying the government, or are going to keep on lying?
We hate you. Does this surprise you? You’re the deviant that posted CHILD PORN links here.
Seriously, what the fuck did you expect? Applause?
And as usual, Buttplug cowers and won’t address his pedophilia.
“This is nowhere nearly as bad as the Reagan ‘Just Say No’ campaign in the 80’s because those assholes made cool new drugs illegal to possess.”
A “both sides” using an example from almost 40 years ago is especially pathetic. Not as pathetic as posting kiddie porn links, but within normal parameters it’s near the top.
One of you wingnuts let me know if attending a Christmas party becomes illegal and I will join you in calling our government a fascist one.
"Let me know when our government kills a million *more* Jews than the Nazis and I will joing you in calling our government a fascist one."
We’ve had textbook definition of fascism since at least FDR.
Fact free fuckhead, you can't even see it when it's right in front of you.
Go download some more kiddie porn from FBI servers.
Wrong again, Fauci!
Put Howie Mandel in charge. He's less germophobic than Fauci.
Interestingly, Fauci doesn’t think AIDS is all that dangerous. Except in the 80s
When he said everyone would get it.
At this point it isn't.
That brings up a few interesting things about viruses. Take AIDS for example. Getting it doesn't stimulate immunity, nor can a vaccine. All you can do is deal with it. With the flu they take their best guess as to the three dominant variants for the year and that's the vaccine. If they guess wrong well tough titties for you (I've never had a flu shot, gotten the flu three times in my life, none were pleasant). No we've got this coronavirus that's more related to the cold than the flu, yet they're coming up with vaccines that work against it and it's cousins.
So when people compare COVID to the flu, they're just proudly putting their ignorance on display.
Anyway, that's just me spouting about viruses.
I'll let the trolls determine what I really meant. It's always entertaining. Except I'm muting them all now. Oh well.
I didn’t know the flu was a lifelong illness, you’re the expert though.
Don't know what you're talking about. AIDS is treatable with medication. It's not the death sentence it used to be.
Do you want a conversation or are you looking to score points?
AIDS never goes away you fool!
Yeah. I still don't get what you're saying. I'm not being intentionally obtuse.
Oh, do you mean that, like AIDS, COVID will never go away? If so that's something to think about.
AIDS is something that happens to you when you contract HIV.
Are you saying COVID
is the same?
Aren't we saying the same thing?
You made your sarcastic statement about the flu and I thought you were talking about AIDS. Lifelong illness and that.
AIDS ain't going away, and if COVID is like it's closest relative the cold, it isn't either.
I dunno man. I think we're in violent agreement.
They're not going away for different reasons, duh.
And I'm comparing COVID to HIV. As in the virus. Peda-fucking-ant
I take you at your word. Your obtusification isn’t intentional, nor avoidable.
I was almost buying you as someone serious, my bad.
There you go scoring points.
"you’re the expert though"
Just like Shrike and White Mike, sarcasmic got his virology doctorate from the University of CNN. They attended professor Sanjay Gupta's lessons religiously.
*HIV* not AIDS, which is a condition. Excuse me you know what I meant.
So, is Covid like AIDS, or not?
I already started responding to that here.
No one clicks on your links.
It's to an ignored post above at 8:08. You could tell that by hovering over it. Which tells me you're here to score points.
Score away. I'm not playing.
“Score away. I’m not playing.”
Easily the lie of the day.
Hey sarc, my favorite little lolcow. I've just grabbed my milking stool and pail, only to be delighted to see you babbling about "scoring".
I think I'm going to get a full bucket, you mind telling me what this scoring business is all about?
His team doesn’t keep score. And he doesn’t have a team. Also, why are you making this all about sarc? He’s just here to talk about ideas.
Meanwhile:
“The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) have issued new guidelines for staying safe during the upcoming holiday season. According to Axios, the CDC recommends that those holding holiday gatherings host outdoor or virtual celebrations, wear a mask if not fully vaccinated, and use fans by open windows and doors to keep the air fresh. The CDC also advises against unvaccinated individuals traveling for the holidays. "The safest way to celebrate is virtually, with people who live with you, or outside and at least six feet apart from others," the CDC says.”
Fuck the CDC - they have almost zero credibility.
Revision: Motherfuck the CDC.
The last thing these elites and their alphabet soup organizations care about is our health and well-being. They literally demonstrate that every day.
Maybe you should just go away. You really just disrupt discussion and shitpost.
“I’ll let the trolls determine what I really meant. It’s always entertaining. Except I’m muting them all now. Oh well.”
Says the troll.
That's all he's here for apparently:
sarcasmic
August.12.2021 at 4:45 pm
I only show up to watch the clowns duke it out, while tossing in this or that provocation. Bread and circuses. This is a circus.
I hope nobody believes for a second that sarcasmic is anything other than a cheap troll.
You've got to highlight the good part.
sarcasmic
August.12.2021 at 4:45 pm
Flag Comment Mute Use
I only show up to watch the clowns duke it out, while tossing in this or that provocation. Bread and circuses. This is a circus.
https://reason.com/2021/08/12/cdc-took-mistaken-data-on-delta-variant-transmissibility-from-a-new-york-times-infographic/#comment-9044167
Best Sarc just goes away. He adds nothing to most discussions, and wastes the time of all the adults here.
With the flu they take their best guess as to the three dominant variants for the year and that’s the vaccine.
Actually, there's a quadravalent vaccine now/this year. It's being touted as something like 26% more effective than the trivalent vaccine. Even then, the efficacy is only something like 50-65% depending on strain.
Eventually, they'll need to inject you with a half-liter of culture as thick as pancake syrup in order to continue protecting people from various strains and variants.
.. they’ll need to inject you with a half-liter of culture as thick as pancake syrup….
Beautiful imagery.
It’s working so well, something like 90% of people have no antibodies from the vaccine after 8 months.
As a left-libertarian, I always obey highly credentialed people when they tell me how to spend my free time. During the height of the pandemic in 2020, for instance, I marched in the streets with hundreds of people to show how much I value Black bodies. Because the public health establishment told me this was OK. Encouraged it, even.
But now in late 2021 — after Biden delivered the vaccine and shut down the virus like he promised — I will refuse to attend any family gathering until Dr. Fauci gives me the green light.
#ILoveScience
That was beautiful. I wonder if Sarcasmic and Buttplug can even see a reflection them Selves? They are at least as believable - If not more sincerely idiotic.
I can’t believe I get to read these gems without having to pay for it.
It's basically just like reading a condensed version of most the articles here
But now in late 2021 — after Biden delivered the vaccine and shut down the virus like he promised — I will refuse to attend any family gathering until Dr. Fauci gives me the green light.
I think Biden didn't count on so many people forgetting who was in charge when the vaccines were being developed and then refuse to get them. And did Biden really "promise" that anyway? Maybe it was like how Trump "promised" that COVID would just go away. Or that it was never that bad to begin with, certainly not worse than a flu, despite telling Bob Woodward that it was several times worse than a bad flu season. Or that he would have done a good job if deaths were "only" 100,000 to 200,000?
Trump and Biden are both human garbage, and always have been.
One is just fucking stupid, and the other is stupid and going senile.
Brought to you by your Tulpa of the day..... Steevie!
And Petercj.
You of all people shouldn't be accusing anyone of running trollsocks (muh hairspaces).
Everyone is Tulpa, right sarcasmic.
Post fail by drunk ass sarc.
Life failed.
I like him better as a gray box.
They should have asked him about Kwanza.
Fauci should really be awaiting trial right now.
This isn’t America anymore.
Maybe, but lots of people are happy to let overcautious health officials run this planet.
I’m not asking Dr. Fauci
^
Has Dr. Fauci also cancelled Hanukkah?
Definitely not any Islamic holiday.
The funny thing is that on Christmas day the stores shut down and everyone stays at home.
What makes it funny?
Its funny because people are less active and have fewer options/freedoms. Sullum loves that. Non-sociopaths dont understand that level of autistic misfit communication right away, unless they have observed it for a while.
To be sure, no one travels on Christmas.
Soon they will figure out that "Christmas is the original lockdown day!"
The flights I’ve taken on Christmas day have been wonderful because they are never packed.
That's true - I used to fly from Dallas to NYC on the first early AM flight out Christmas morning - getting to my mom's in time for a late breakfast...the flights were never full.
The day before was probably a nightmare.
Except to go to grandma's house.
Over the river and through the woods.......
Telling. Lots of people leave their homes to visit friends and family.
Stroozle's to busy sacrificing goats and stolen children to the dark lord that day to notice.
“ expect that COVID-19 cases will fall precipitously in the coming weeks and months”
Coming months is commonly known as a year.
Its funny because people are less active and have fewer options/freedoms. Sullum loves that. Non-sociopaths dont understand that level of autistic misfit communication right away, unless they have observed it for a while.
Was meant to be response to dlam
There's ZERO chance that the numbers will tumble in the coming weeks, unless you mean until the end of October, when we started seeing meaningful rises in the midwest.
Now all the people who have been denying seasonality are going to have to eat shit all winter -- again.
The definition of "numbers" is so slippery. At first it was deaths, then it was cases, then excess deaths, then it delta, then it was long covid, spare ventilators/hospital beds, Trump voters, percentage daily change in any of the above. It's insanity. It's never going to stop until it's important to the machine for it to stop. This crisis is too valuable to waste.
The number of viable vectors continues to decline. That precludes any future spikes. I’ll take a stab at predicting that by Thanksgiving the death rate will have declined to statistical noise level. Like the Spanish Flu before it, this pandemic will soon run out of steam.
The vaccine causes disease so the "pandemic" will continue.
During the summer NY gets to sub 1% positive rates. Yet the panic never dies.
I'm just going to leave this here.
In 1940, Lysenko became director of the Institute of Genetics within the USSR's Academy of Sciences, and he used his political influence and power to suppress dissenting opinions and discredit, marginalize, and imprison his critics, elevating his anti-Mendelian theories to state-sanctioned doctrine.
Not that I'm drawing any parallels. Of course not. I'm not the kind of guy who calls out power mad assholes like Fauci.
Mark of the beast...
By the way I used to be his neighbor, number 667.
I wrote a song about it, but fucking Iron Maiden stole it.
Changed "neighbor" to "number."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxnN05vOuSM
667 Neighbor of the Beast.
Assholes.
Thanks sqrsly
Sqrlcasmic post.
You thought this was funny when you posted it, didn’t you?
668 is the neighbor of the beast, 667 is across the street.
good catch, I'll remember that!
As a pathetic 556, I feel pretty outnumbered here. Ha. Ha.
One possible definition.
Lysenkoism - any deliberate distortion of scientific facts or theories for purposes that are deemed politically, religiously or socially desirable.
It doesn't matter whether Christmas gets canceled or not, in a couple of months Fauci will simply lie and say he really knew all along but he lied and said he didn't know just to keep people from getting their hopes up prematurely. Fauci knows everything and he's constitutionally incapable of saying "I don't know".
Fauci - Even if I'm doing harm, I won't resign.
“I’ve lost confidence in the CDC and the FDA,” Hewitt concluded after the recital, “and I actually believe a lot of Americans, a significant part of America, now have lost confidence in you, Dr. Fauci.”
This inevitably led to Hewitt asking: “Is there a point where you will say I do more harm than good because people don’t listen to me anymore and step aside?”
And Fauci dodges:
“No, absolutely, unequivocally no,” Fauci answered. He reminded Hewitt that public health policy had to change over time in order to account for new data and current events.
As usual, Fauci doesn't answer the question he's asked.
He has no reason to. Fauci can evade whatever is thrown at him because he is protected and covering for himself, pharma and everyone else that was funding the gain of function lab in Wuhan.
I am impressed that you have magic advance knowledge that there will not be another more contagious or more serious variant and case numbers will continue to drop.
Do you also provide stock tips?
Try as they might, the lab in China couldn’t meet Fauci’s development schedule.
Fauci too weak to flatten the curve
"Widespread vaccination is working to counter delta's increased transmissibility while significantly decreasing severe disease and death".
Bullshit
The number of viable vectors continues to decline. Death rate should have been declined at least statistically. We at RCVMHS Org are against Christmas parties for this year...
I'm confused. Robby Soave wrote, and the headline states, that Fauci said something about whether Christmas gatherings would be "allowed". Yet Soave doesn't quote Fauci saying anything that could be interpreted as claiming any authority by him or the federal government to tell people that they can't meet during Christmas. At most, the federal government is likely to issue guidance and suggestions about social distancing, just like it has since the beginning. Even the vast majority of state and local governments never actually enforced limits on families gathering in their homes during holidays, as far as I know. I honestly can't think of any examples where a dozen or so family members were ever prohibited from gathering, even when it was strongly recommended not to do that.
Basically, this is more hyperbole about how government has turned all tyrannical on us in order to fight a pandemic that has killed several hundred thousand people in the U.S. I find it absurd how up in arms people have gotten over most of this. Some restrictions have been poorly thought out, and there have been plenty of examples of officials that implemented restrictions and advice not following that for themselves. But the data is clear that the preferred policies of most GOP state governments haven't worked at protecting people. Florida has about the same population as Australia, yet 50 times as many people have died there as compared to Down Under.
Jewish funerals in NYC?
If you're talking about the instances I think you are, that was hundreds of people, not a small family gathering like at issue with this article or what I had said.
Fauci doesn't have to make law himself, he just has to make recommendations and then the governors turn that into law via executive orders
"I find it absurd how up in arms people have gotten over most of this."
I feel your pain, loser.
Holy crap, did you really just compare FL to an island nation that has imposed the most draconian lockdown and entry policy on earth?
That is about as fucked up as anything I have read about COVID.
Please tell me you don't actually believe that false equivalency.
Unless you are counting all the people driving into Australia from Georgia.
Australia isn't just some 'island nation'. It is a relatively wealthy developed country like the U.S. It gets about as many international visitors a year as Florida does (though you are obviously correct in that Florida gets even more visitors from other states compared to international tourists).
But if you want to compare Florida to other U.S. states, there is this. Florida's rate of death from COVID per 100,000 population = 1.14 (5th in the country). The state with Democrats in total charge of the state government with the highest death rate is Connecticut, with 0.6, though Louisiana has a Democrat as governor and it's 0.76. Even South Dakota, with another super-spreader Sturgis bike rally this summer, is only 0.32. (Though South Dakota is more sparsely populated, so you would expect it to be lower there.)
What does it say that all of the top 10 states on that statistic are run completely at the state level by Republicans that resist doing just about anything that any Democrat suggests we do about COVID (which is usually along the lines of what the vast majority of scientists in relevant fields suggest we do). No mask mandates, no vaccine mandates! Our Freedom is at stake!
Sturgis as a super spreader? Geez, you probably think the blm protests actually suppressed covid you fucking retarded cunt.
What the fuck is "beckerhospitalreview.com"?
It's showing New Jersey as being in the top ten states for lowest COVID death rate in the country. That's ridiculous on its face. New Jersey had the same Cuomo-cleanses-the-nursuing-homes policy (with a less ostentatious governor), and is the densest population in the country. A cursory review of sites-anyone-has-heard-of confirms that New Jersey's death rate is among the worst in the country.
Are you seriously using fraudulent statistics for a narrative in website comments? Who am I kidding, let's ask the motivated media folks you cite:
Becker's Healthcare is a fast-paced media firm in downtown Chicago.
We provide our readers the cutting-edge business information and news they need to know to help their hospitals and surgery centers thrive in the ever-changing healthcare landscape. Our 6 conferences are nation-wide events that pull in healthcare leaders from across the country for the ultimate educational and networking opportunity. We work diligently with our advertising partners to help them build strong relationships within the industry and ultimately help their businesses grow.
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Do the liars on the internet just pay each other, is that where the demand for your services comes from?
You're right. I should have chosen a more reliable website. But the main reason the data I cited doesn't match your expectations is this (emphasis added):
Here is a breakdown of average daily COVID-19 deaths and COVID-19 deaths per 100,000 people over the last seven days in all 50 U.S. states and Washington, D.C. The data was last updated Oct. 4.
And as for Australia's "draconian lockdown and entry" policies, well, the data kind of suggests that those policies worked. Was it worth the trade off? That is a different debate.
Was it worth the trade off? That's a different debate.
No, its not. Why does anyone do anything in this world? Because they think the benefits outweigh the costs. Looking at one side of the coin makes no sense. But you're obviously too retarded to comprehend that.
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You can't blame him or Biden, even, it's happening pretty much everywhere that Democrats run things.
Here in St. Louis county we have had yet another mask mandate, despite legal objections from the state. Meanwhile, the city itself continues to have one, while in the neighboring areas of St. Charles and Jefferson county, there are none, since it's run by Republicans.
And it's not just Democrat politicians. It's corporations (who are basically run by Democrats). My employer is making everyone mask, even though no one but the weirdoes (basically 2 people out of 200) wear them in the back.
Meanwhile:
“The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) have issued new guidelines for staying safe during the upcoming holiday season. According to Axios, the CDC recommends that those holding holiday gatherings host outdoor or virtual celebrations, wear a mask if not fully vaccinated, and use fans by open windows and doors to keep the air fresh. The CDC also advises against unvaccinated individuals traveling for the holidays. "The safest way to celebrate is virtually, with people who live with you, or outside and at least six feet apart from others," the CDC says.”
Yeah, nobody's doing that anymore. Well, maybe some people, but I don't see them.
Yeah, nobody’s doing that anymore.
And how has that been working for us?
Yes, unvaxxed shouldn't travel. They say this, but they have allowed pretty much all domestic airline travel the whole fucking pandemic where people are packed like sardines, touching your neighbor's should for 5 hours to jet off to another state for the weekend.
I have rich liberal friends who jetted around the country during covid for fun and "to get away" and then trot around outside proudly and condescendingly wearing their masks like a bunch of stupid twats completely ignorant of how fucking massive hypocrites they are.
To be clear, the unvaxxed should travel as they fucking damn well please. If people have a problem with that, then get a vax or stay home.
Live in fear, or have your Christmas party. I will have mine, I have been correct way more than Fauci since this pandemic began.
This
skinny fucking weasel400K per year bureaucrat is out of his small mind if he thinks we will ever go back to lockdowns again. Fuck that.I'll travel where I want, why I want, when I want. And
the skinny fucking weaselthe overpaid bureaucrat can kiss my ass."Indeed, except for pockets of extreme restrictions and compliance—elite college campuses, for instance—many if not most Americans have already gone back to something resembling normal life."
These scared people are WEENIs: White Excessively Educated Nervous Individuals. Perhaps not a completely new breed of elites, but they have been fucking up the world more and more in the past decades.
WEENI: The species has domesticated itself, and these are the equivalent of tiny yapping toy poodles.
You know damned well every lawmaker and functionary is going to have their own Christmas (Kwanzaa, Hannukah, Saturnalia, Soltice) party, because laws are for OTHER people.
You mean for the "little people".
Well, from what I’be heard we’ll be allowed to either hoi or else polloi. We just can’t do both like we’re used to. Until the crisis passes. But let’s not get ahead of ourselves.
'groveling slaves"
AKA "the proletariat."
Remy continues to be relevant- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlAoL2NPac8
Any one who voluntarily refrained from gathering with family for a holiday at any point during this whole charade is a huge sucker and a moron.
How can one describe someone like Fauci who has undoubtedly allowed all this to go to his head?
He has become so self deluded as to believe he can actually cancel a religious holiday by his own decree. Fauci is an arrogant, conceited, self important little bureaucrat, over paid and filled with his own self importance.
The American people are getting tired of this little gremlin just as they are already getting tired of Joe Biden, the worst president in American history.
Fauci is obviously secure in his own self delusion that he can cancel anything he wishes to make a point.
Sorry, but that's not going to happen.People need to live and in order to live they need to associate with others and be able to celebrate birthdays and holidays as well as commiserate during funerals. Fauci has attempted to deny life to the living.
He is a monster . A golem, a creature devoid of humanity and filled with the lust to dominate all.
An awful lot of American people are in love with this tyrant. They have TDS, vaccines are more anti-Trump than anti-COVID in their minds, and they morph that into a fantasy where if everyone would take their vaccine COVID would go away, despite how leaky these vaccines are - but not to worry, the goalposts are very movable, and can always accommodate the next line of bullshit.
“More than half (of the surveyed health experts) said they would skip a wedding.” Aw shucks, and they sound like they’d be the life of the party at the reception! (One less “fun table”)
Hard fucking LOL at Fauci and the libs that think he or they have any bearing on what free people will do.
The libs that crave the nanny state wont even stop having maskless parties. Theres another one in the news every day. Guess theyre just catching the spirit so its ok for them though.
I threw a christmas party in fucking 2020, why in the hell would I not in 2021
Well, its so much more dangerous now because so many people have been vaccinated or developed natural immunity, duh! Makes perfect sense to me!
I'm vaccinated my family is vaccinated. He loves the spotlight and want this to go on forever an this greatly reduced level. If Fauci thinks he can cancel Christmas again my thoughts toward him can be found at the end of Killing in the Name by Rage Against the Machine.
He literally said “it’s too soon to tell” which is the polite equivalent of “Well, Margaret, I’ll be fucked if I know.” Reading the comments you’d think he said your Christmas is canceled forever and you’ll be shot if he finds out otherwise. Christ this place has turned into a shit show..
Reading the comments you’d think he said your Christmas is canceled forever and you’ll be shot if he finds out otherwise. Christ this place has turned into a shit show..
This is what has become of news media. 35-40 years ago, people got the vast majority of their news about their town, state, country, and world from a local newspaper, local and national evening news (3 major networks + PBS), maybe a little news from local or national TV or radio in the morning, and perhaps a national newspaper or magazine. These sources were successful only if they appealed broadly to a wide audience, so they focused on straight news that was mostly objective, and commentary and analysis had some diversity of views. Various outlets had some bias, but it was generally a leaning rather than an outright slant. Opinion and commentary was also a minority of their content. There is a good reason why the Op-Ed pages of a newspaper are in the back of the front section. Ideally, you read that after you read the straight news reporting.
But now, with the fragmentation of the news and opinion landscape, outlets can be very successful catering to a narrow portion of the population. They can feed them what they want to hear instead of simply informing them more objectively. Basically, we can easily find echo chambers if that is what we want. In the late 80's, conservative talk radio (Rush Limbaugh being the most successful pioneer there) took off by telling its audience that the "liberal" "mainstream media" was biased against them and only they would tell them to the truth. Outrage media was shown to be very profitable, so we ended up with outlets that serve whatever political and ideological preference you can imagine. People that might have had to work really hard to find others on the fringe like them a few decades ago can now do so with a few clicks and soak it all up.
Now, it isn't like newspapers and news media were never heavily biased in this country. News in the Founding era was hardly objective and non-partisan. But for a while, we had real ethical journalism as the mainstream. Now, biased commentary is the majority of what people consume instead of objective news reporting. This whole website and publication is dedicated to that, not to reporting objective facts.
Something to think about. Tucker Carlson is considered hugely popular. His average audience is something around 4 million. Walter Cronkite averaged almost 30 million people a night at a time when the U.S. population was over 100 million people fewer.
Again, Reason's spin on vaccine information leaves much to be desired. Vaccines are going to save us from the Delta variant? Here is a recent account of a hospital COVID outbreak in Israel, over 90% of the people involved were fully vaccinated, and it's Delta variant.
https://doi.org/10.2807/1560-7917.ES.2021.26.39.2100822
The journal which published this is the European equivalent of the CDC's journal. Delta variant has three mutations of the spike protein, meaning that Pfizers mRNA immunity does not cover it, as that is the only part of the virus used in the Pfizer vaccine. The Pfizer vaccines are part of what is accelerating the mutation of the virus, and they aren't going to prevent transmission either. What planet are we living on? A lalaland of vaccines saving the planet, or one in which we start exposing the blatant corruption that has been happening since all this began? US Senate Hearings on early and outpatient treatment are still up on CSPAN- hearings held in spring and winter of 2020. Brett Weinstein's interview with Dr Pierre Kory is still up online and all the source documents are still available. FLCCC still has a website up and running with their latest treatment protocols for COVID. Wikipedia is still smearing one of the most published doctors of our time as an antivaxxer, Dr Peter Mcullough, while MSM ignores his testimony to the Texas Senate, and refers to ivermectin as a horse dewormer. Dig in Reason authors!! Libertarians should be leading the revolution.
Of the 42 cases diagnosed in this outbreak, 38 were fully vaccinated with two doses of the Comirnaty vaccine, one was recovered with one vaccination and three were unvaccinated. The median age was 55 years (interquartile range (IQR): 36–77.5) and 24 were female. Twenty-three were patients, 16 staff members and three family members. The median time from second vaccine dose to breakthrough infection was 177 days (range 111–194). On the day of diagnosis, only 24 individuals were symptomatic, but in the following days, 36 had become symptomatic. All staff (median age: 33 years; range: 22–48) remained asymptomatic or with mild disease. Among the patients (median age: 77 years; range: 42–93; median time from second vaccine dose to infection: 176 days; range: 143-188), eight became severely ill, six critically ill and five of the critically ill died (Table). The patient population was considerably older than staff and all patients had comorbidities: diabetes mellitus (n = 9), hypertension (n = 16), ischemic heart disease (n = 12), congestive heart failure (n = 7), dementia (n = 5), body mass index > 30 (n = 8), chronic renal failure (n = 11) of whom six were on dialysis. Eight patients were immunocompromised.
That was a case study of an outbreak in a hospital. It also said:
The calculated attack rate among all exposed patients and staff was 10.6% (16/151) for staff and 23.7% (23/97) for patients, in a population with 96.2% vaccination rate (238 vaccinated/248 exposed individuals).
So did you see that part where all of the staff that got infected were asymptomatic or had mild cases?
You are picking whatever experts or sources match what you want to be true, not what is rational.
https://thevaccinereaction.org/2021/10/senator-rand-paul-challenges-hhs-secretary-becerra-on-vaccine-mandates-and-natural-immunity/ Yeah the link is through an antivaxx organization, but the footage of the Senator in action is real- YouTube censored it of course. Hell Reason, just follow Rand Paul a bit closer. The information is OUT THERE I am not making it up. Damn antivaxxers wanting you to look at the science all the time instead of defending the fact that mandates have been around for a long time! Yep, tyranny has been the norm for most of human existence- that doesn't justify it.
Damn antivaxxers wanting you to look at the science all the time...
Sarcasm detected and noted. The problem is that they aren't wanting you to look at all of the science, just whatever information and experts they cherry pick to back their preferences. "Consensus isn't science" people often say around here, and it is true that it doesn't matter for the truth of a scientific claim what percentage of scientists in a field agree with that claim. But if you aren't going to accept what the consensus of experts is, then you have to do the hard work of looking into and evaluating all of the evidence yourself in an unbiased manner. How many people actually have the time and knowledge for that?
This is why we go through our daily lives simply trusting that some experts somewhere did their jobs reasonably well. Sometimes that comes back to bite us, but far more often, it works out fine. It is part of our cognitive biases to remember the times the experts were wrong while not acknowledging or even thinking about all of the times that they were right. Basically, if experts are doing their jobs well, most of the time you don't even think about them at all because they've prevented problems from occurring in the first place.
Being skeptical is great, when it comes to fact-based reasoning, but skepticism needs to be applied equally to all claims. It just becomes another form of motivated reasoning if it is only directed at one perspective while everything contrary to that perspective is accepted uncritically.
Hey, I'm an expert! Seriously, I am. I very, very strongly recommend that you go fuck yourself, keep a nice diary of it, and post it here! It's going to be fine. Just do it!
Awesome. See how much easier and fun it is to say something that you imagine to be clever than to engage in critical thinking and reasoned and meaningful debate? Thank you for illustrating my point so well.
Fuck fauci...I'd like to piss down the back of his neck.
The same goes for merrick garland.
Permission? The only thing we should hear from Fauci is through his defense attorney for crimes against humanity for his part in creating this virus. The Fauci Flu.
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