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California Law Would Limit Free Speech at Vaccination Sites 

Plus: Wiretapping social media, Democrats' budget proposal, cryptocurrency regulations, the infrastructure bill, and more.. 

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A new bill in California would limit free speech in the vicinity of COVID-19 vaccination sites. Violators could be punished by six months in jail and/or a $1,000 fine.

The measure (SB 742) would make it a crime to "approach within 30 feet of any person while a person is making the approach within 100 feet of the entrance of a vaccination site and is seeking to enter or exit a vaccination site, or any occupied motor vehicle seeking entry or exit, for the purpose of obstructing, injuring, harassing, intimidating, or interfering with that person or vehicle occupant in connection with any vaccination services." But prohibited actions here wouldn't just be what we think of typically as harassment or intimidation; they would also include "the nonconsensual and knowing approach within 30 feet of another person or occupied vehicle for the purpose of passing a leaflet or handbill, displaying a sign to, or engaging in oral protest, education, or counseling with that other person in a public way or on a sidewalk area."

That means protesters and pamphleteers would be required to have the express permission of everyone they encountered around the vaccination site or else be in violation of the law.

This is "clearly unconstitutional," opines legal scholar and blogger Eugene Volokh at The Volokh Conspiracy. "The First Amendment protects speech on public sidewalks, including offering leaflets, displaying signs, or conveying oral messages to people who haven't 'consen[ted]' (whether because they haven't thought about the matter, or even if they affirmatively don't want to see the sign or hear the message)."

The Supreme Court has allowed a Colorado law banning "'knowingly approach[ing]' within eight feet of another person [near a medical facility], without that person's consent, 'for the purpose of passing a leaflet or handbill to, displaying a sign to, or engaging in oral protest, education, or counseling with such other person.'"

But this ban was much shorter in distance—8 feet, versus the 30 feet proposed in the California bill—and in its 2000 decision, the Court specifically contrasted this to a 15-foot anti-speech zone it struck down in a 1997 case (Schenck v. Pro-Choice Network). More recently, in the 2014 case McCullen v. Coakley, the Court struck down a 35-foot free speech buffer zone around abortion clinics.

The Colorado law was also content neutral—that is, it applied outside any type of medical facility, not just vaccination sites. "Such subject-matter restrictions are unconstitutional, see, e.g., Carey v. Brown (1981) (holding that a residential picketing ban that applied only to nonlabor picketing was unconstitutionally content-based); Reed v. Town of Gilbert (2015) (holding that a sign ordinance that treated political signs, ideological signs, and signs giving directions to certain events differently was unconstitutionally content-based)," notes Volokh.

In the past, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) has gone to bat against these types of restrictions, but "the American Civil Liberties Union said it has no issues with it [SB 742] as written," California Healthline reported.

Kevin Baker, ACLU California Action's director of governmental relations, told Volokh: "Were we to write the law ourselves, we might draw a somewhat different line. But we feel pretty confident that the courts would uphold SB 742 based on the buffer zone/bubble case law largely drawn from the fairly analogous context of reproductive health services. To be clear, however, we are not supportin/g (sic) the bill—we are simply neutral."

The bill is on track to full passage soon, having already passed the California Senate 33–4 and cleared the Assembly's public safety committee.


FREE MINDS 

Judges are issuing warrants to wiretap social media accounts. A case in Maryland has been drawing attention to the issue after Harford County law enforcement got a warrant to wiretap a drug suspect's Facebook activity.

"It's common for investigators to get warrants to collect information stored within social media accounts," the Baltimore Sun points out, noting that law enforcement authorities in the state have been doing it since 2018. "But the Harford case, authorized by a Circuit Court judge in February 2020, was one of only nine social media or digital app wiretaps applied for by authorities in Maryland last year, according to data reported to the Maryland Judiciary."

The tactic shouldn't necessarily raise alarms. "I think there's a reality that when you have a system that allows for users to create content to message others, it will be a valuable source of investigative leads for law enforcement," Aaron Mackey, a senior staff attorney for the Electronic Frontier Foundation, told the Sun. "What this sounds like to me is use of existing law to access communications….It is perhaps novel that they have deployed it in this particular context, and law enforcement is realizing that they have this capability."

And strong encryption can still keep government snoops away, the Sun adds:

What's available to investigators depends on whether the communications are end-to-end encrypted. Experts say authorities — despite attempts to force companies to allow them to do so — cannot listen in over encrypted phone calls using the wiretap warrant, while other messaging services carry an option of encryption that exposes the communications if not enabled.

While Facebook and Instagram services are not encrypted by default, users can enable that feature manually each time they begin a new message thread. Other popular apps and devices, such as WhatsApp and iPhone's FaceTime are end-to-end encrypted by default, making it impossible for law enforcement officials to listen in.


FREE MARKETS 

Take a peek inside Democrats' $3.5 trillion budget plan. Among its many planks, the proposed budget would make permanent the pandemic's child tax credit and establish a number of new programs and federal benefits. These include:

  • The first Civilian Climate Corps
  • "Universal Pre-K for 3 and 4 year olds and a new child care benefit for working families"
  • Two years of subsidized community college tuition
  • A federal paid family leave and medical leave benefit
  • Dental, vision, and hearing benefits for Medicare recipients
  • "A new federal health program for Americans in the 'Medicaid gap'"

More topline spending details here.


FOLLOWUP

Infrastructure bill headed to Senate passage today (with crypto regulations intact). An amendment on cryptocurrency regulations did not make it into the final version of the infrastructure bill, which the Senate is expected to vote on this morning.

"We're going to do a lot of damage. Who knows how much innovation we're going to stifle…It's not good, and it's going to bring us back here to clean up a mess that we could have prevented," Sen. Pat Toomey (R–Penn.) said. Toomey was one of three senators—along with Ron Wyden (D–Ore.) and Cynthia Lummis (R–Wyo.)—who had proposed an amendment to the bill in order to safeguard cryptocurrency miners, developers, and others.

More on how the "crypto crackdown plot blew up the infrastructure bill" here. Reason's Eric Boehm has more on the full infrastructure package here.


QUICK HITS

• A beautiful rant about the Food and Drug Administration and how it puts Americans at risk.

• Large school districts in Florida and Texas are rejecting their state's law against mask mandates.

• "When New York decided to stop cracking down on sex workers, it maintained harsh policing of sex workers' customers," notes the Cato Institute. Kaytlin Bailey of The Old Pro Project explains on the Cato Daily podcast why full decriminalization should be the path forward.

• U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) has modernized its policy on assisted reproduction. Now, babies born outside the U.S. with the help of technologies like in vitro fertilization will no long be considered by USCIS to be born "out of wedlock," thereby allowing "a non-genetic, non-gestational legal parent of a child to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child if the parent is married to the child's genetic or gestational parent at the time of the child's birth, and the relevant jurisdiction recognizes both parents as the child's legal parents," the agency announced.

• An investigation from the nonprofit White Coat Waste Project (WCW) shines light on experimentation on animals. The National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) "directed $424,455 to researchers at the University of Georgia in September 2020 to infect dozens of beagles with disease-causing parasites in order to test an experimental drug on them," the Daily Caller reports on what White Coat Waste uncovered. "The task order states that the beagles are to be euthanized 196 days after the start of the study."

• The latest data from the Department of Labor turned up 10.1 million open jobs at the end of June.

• Statistician Nate Silver breaks down the latest U.S. data on COVID-19 cases, hospitalizations, and deaths. "Lately I've seen people ask why the US numbers don't look more like the UK, which had a surge in cases recently but comparatively few deaths. But US states that have vaccination rates ~similar to the UK actually have fewer deaths than the UK, though the numbers lag & may rise," he points out.

• Mississippi health authorities say there are no intensive care unit beds left in the state as new coronavirus cases overwhelm hospitals.

• The infrastructure package will fuel inflation, warns Stephan Miran at The Wall Street Journal. "While infrastructure, in the long term, will enhance the supply side of the economy and help keep inflation low, its effects in the short term will likely be the exact opposite. A recent working paper published by the National Bureau of Economic Research reviewed the evidence of infrastructure investment's short-term negative effects on the economy and found little sign of stimulus effects."

NEXT: How a Sneaky Crypto Crackdown Plot Blew Up the Infrastructure Bill

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  1. The measure (SB 742) would make it a crime to “approach within 30 feet of any person while a person is making the approach within 100 feet of the entrance of a vaccination site and is seeking to enter or exit a vaccination site…

    No interference when they’re just trying to vote Democrat in peace.

    1. Kevin Baker, ACLU California Action’s director of governmental relations, told Volokh: “Were we to write the law ourselves, we might draw a somewhat different line. But we feel pretty confident that the courts would uphold SB 742 based on the buffer zone/bubble case law largely drawn from the fairly analogous context of reproductive health services. To be clear, however, we are not supportin/g (sic) the bill—we are simply neutral.”

      To be clear, the ACLU doesn’t support free speech

      1. Yeah, nice to see the ASCLU is in full effect.

        The Some Civil Liberties Union.

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      2. Tacit approval is still a form of approval. Not attacking a bill completely against what you claim to stand for is just as bad as supporting it.

        1. “What!? That was an attack on civil liberties? Oh man, we totally missed that. Oh well, too late now.

          1. I wonder if we’ll see even that much from Reason at some point regarding the January 6th political prisoners

            1. Their tacit approval is pretty obvious at this point.

            2. Only when they get the OK from WaPo and NYT.

      3. “the American Civil Liberties Union said it has no issues with it [SB 742] as written,”

        The ACLU has chosen its sides in all matters of society and culture, and some things are just more important than liberties.

    2. Maybe it is time for them to simplify the law and just make it illegal to speak anywhere you are not allowed to smoke.

    3. I wonder how the people who are against such activities at abortion clinics will respond. My guess is they’ll support it without so much as a wink at the inconsistency.

      1. Wait, what? Liberals/progressives would tend to be against pamphleting at abortion clinics or at vaccination clinics, so there wouldn’t be any inconsistency. And conservatives would tend to be consistent about allowing pamphleting in either scenario, so again no inconsistency.

        So, what political camp are you referring to?

        1. LOL you’re right. I’m not sure what I was thinking…it’s been one of those mornings.

          1. Understood. Some mornings there isn’t enough coffee in the world.

    4. >>within 30 feet of any person while a person is making the approach within 100 feet

      how many fucking yardsticks are we supposed to carry around?

  2. Barack Obama Has Been One of the Worst Ex-Presidents Ever
    BY
    LIZA FEATHERSTONE
    Since his retirement from politics, Barack Obama has displayed an astonishing lack of regard for the public good. Instead of serving his fellow human beings, he has mainly devoted himself to a rigorous program of conspicuous self-celebration.

    He’s distinguished himself as an enemy of labor and friend of racist cops. NBA players began to go on strike last August after Jacob Blake, a black man, was shot by police seven times in front of his kids, in Kenosha, Wisconsin. Amid a national uprising over the shooting and many other acts of racist police brutality, Obama called LeBron James and players’ union leader Chris Paul and urged them to get back on the court and finish the playoffs, which they did.

    Obama was also instrumental in shutting down Bernie Sanders’s bid for the presidency, a huge setback to the movement for social democracy in the United States. When Sanders was leading in the primaries, Obama worked to organize the other rival candidates to drop out and back Biden, making it impossible for Sanders to win. He then persuaded the democratic socialist senator to drop out of the race.

    https://jacobinmag.com/2021/08/barack-obama-worst-ex-president-wealth-birthday-covid-public-interest

    The legend is building.

    1. Even the communists at Jacobin are finally catching on that the Davos Crowd and their political flagship are trying to resurrect the second estate.

      1. Obama/Biden have always been hostile to the far left. Obama even compared Liz Warren to Sarah Palin in stupidity.

        Yet somehow Ken Shulz keeps making shit up about how Bernie Sanders/AOC “really run” the Democratic Party. I know Ken is a solid Team Red player which means he HAS to make shit up but that one is a knee-slapper.

        1. Go to prison.

        2. Neither Bernie nor AOC are old left. Bernie and AOC are the Party’s youth wing leaders. Their job is to shake their fists at the old fuddy-duddies in-charge and say “enough”. “We demand change (which just happens to coincide with your 3rd-way social engineering)”.
          It’s all theater.

        3. You still believe buden is acting as a moderate. Your kinship in pedophilia is making you blind.

          1. And giving him hairy palms to boot.

          2. You’re as eat up with QAnon shit as that Pillow-guy nutcase is.

            1. This is just deepfake, right?
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XqF4wA-dco

        4. turd lies. It’s what turd does. turd does not post without lying. If turd uses numbers, they are either outright lies or fudged such as to make them worthless.
          turd lies; turd is a psychopathic liar and too stupid besides to even understand that he’s lying.

        5. To be fair, Ken hasn’t pushed the OAC/Bernie-pull-the-strings narrative lately. He might bring it back for the reconciliation bill.

        6. Yeah, Biden has toats been super-hostile to the far left.

          1. No, he politely ignores them and is openly hostile to their ideas (Medicare For All, GND)

        7. What! Not invited to Obama’s unmasquerade party? The worm turns.

    2. “He’s distinguished himself as an enemy of labor”

      LOL — The 1980s are calling. They want their economic policy back. Obama knows the modern Democratic Party exists to serve the rich. Good for him!

      “and friend of racist cops”

      This is indeed troubling. However at least Obama never did anything truly monstrous like putting Brown children in cages.

      #IMissObama

      1. First term Obama would be a Republican these days.

    3. Lol. Jacobin. You aren’t even hiding what team you’re on anymore.

    4. No mention of the hedonistic maskless party on his $12 million dollar estate during a deadly pandemic?

      1. Setting a good example for life getting back to normal and ignoring ineffective ideas like mask mandates.

    5. turd lies. It’s what turd does. turd does not post without lying. If turd uses numbers, they are either outright lies or fudged such as to make them worthless.
      turd lies; turd is a psychopathic liar and too stupid besides to even understand that he’s lying.

    6. Well, he was one of the worst actual presidents ever, so he might as well stick with what he’s good at.

    7. Sounds like good advice Obama gave LeBron and CP3. If they had protested again and shut down the season, NBA TV ratings would have been destroyed and Paul wouldn’t have just signed a 4-year, 120 million dollar contract extension.

      It’s a lot easier to fight for social justice when you have some money.

      1. CP doesn’t have 4 years left in those legs.

  3. https://twitter.com/_BarringtonII/status/1424851581095264258?s=19

    “Boyle said… that suspending the reading, writing and math proficiency requirements will benefit “Oregon’s Black, Latino, Latina, Latinx, Indigenous, Asian, Pacific Islander, Tribal, and students of colour.”

    No Asian, White, or African mentioned.

    [Link]

    1. Benefit in what sense, I wonder? Do they think that getting a passing grade is more important than actually learning stuff, or what? Seems pretty racist.

      1. It’s extremely racist

      2. Do they think that getting a passing grade is more important than actually learning stuff, or what?

        Well, it’s been true pretty much since the beginning that a college degree increases your earning potential by a million dollars or whatever and, more pertinently, that it’s a lump sum at completion policy and not a $250K/yr. sort of increase.

        But, yeah, if she thinks that potential value of the diploma is going to remain that high after kids start showing up to jobs unable to read, write, and do math, she’s mistaken.

        1. And as if employers won’t figure out the class of socially passed students is a class of potential hires they need to scrutinize.

      3. But if they fail then it will hurt their feelings. Better to pass them regardless of proficiency, that way their feelings won’t get hurt.

    2. Three (3)! different latins though.

      Haha. JFC, what clowns. This is the dumbest time in history.

    3. You know, I seem to remember not that long ago, one of the most harmful policies of inner city and minority schools was considered to be that they passed anyone. Even if they couldn’t read, they could pass on up through the grades.

      Wait, not that long ago. LAST YEAR! Kids getting into high school and teachers actively forced to pass them despite being unable to read. What kind of service are we giving them?

      Do you think that you are being kind? If so, you’re a moron. This is the kindness of negligence. Standardized tests were put into place to measure this, and we had to implement high stakes testing in order to stop the practice of just shoving students out the door without basic skills.

    4. Does this mean he doesn’t want Oregon’s Black, Latino, Latina, Latinx, Indigenous, Asian, Pacific Islander, Tribal, and students of colour to be proficient in reading, writing and math?

  4. I think there’s a reality that when you have a system that allows for users to create content to message others, it will be a valuable source of investigative leads for law enforcement…

    Obviously the Constitution’s drug enforcement clauses kick in to negate any other privacy protection it might otherwise afford.

    1. They’re right under the virus and vacc clauses.

  5. Take a peek inside Democrats’ $3.5 trillion budget plan.

    LOL

  6. LOL
    He said this seriously…

    https://twitter.com/mjf_dfw/status/1425067373841850370?s=19

    Last I checked there isn’t a cheap, easy way to vaccinate yourself against obesity.

    1. Beans and rice. Park at the end of the lot. Take the stairs. Don’t use the complimentary Walmart scooter.

      1. Take smaller portions and stop eating before you’re totally full…

      2. He was gonna check the internet to make sure his assumptions were still correct but he left his phone all the way over there and that’s just too much work.

      3. Eat real food, not too much, and mostly plants.

        1. And stay away from the GD sugar.

    2. This tweet is unavailable.

      1. He must’ve gotten dunked on too hard

        1. What was the gist?

  7. Among its many planks, the proposed budget would make permanent the pandemic’s child tax credit…

    HOW ARE WE GOING TO PAY FOR THIS TAX CUT?

    1. Is it a credit? I thought it was an advance on the deduction, which will probably bite some people in the ass come tax time.

      1. If you took the time to actually read things you wouldn’t be so confused all the time.

        Not sure why you participate on political discussions when you openly state you are intellectually lazy.

        1. Sarc is right. It’s an advance. People can opt out of it.

          “Important changes to the Child Tax Credit will help many families get advance payments of the credit starting this summer. The IRS will pay half the total credit amount in advance monthly payments beginning July 15. You will claim the other half when you file your 2021 income tax return. These changes apply to tax year 2021 only.”

          https://www.irs.gov/credits-deductions/advance-child-tax-credit-payments-in-2021

          1. So JesseAz made a snide insult as usual?

            This is my surprised face….

          2. “Sarc is right”

            There’s a proposition that you don’t hear too often, even from fifty-centing sockpuppets.

          3. Sarc is right. It’s an advance. People can opt out of it.

            Sure, you an opt out, but they make it a pain in the ass to do so.

            Better to just hold it in a savings account in case you have to use any of it at tax time.

          4. Did JesseAz specify what I was wrong about, or was his comment about me instead of what I said? I’m sure it was the latter. The guy is obsessed.

            1. Here’s your attention, sarcasmic.
              Enjoy.

  8. We’re going to do a lot of damage.

    ROTFLMAO

  9. Jeff Stein of the Washington Post (unintentionally?) describes OpenBordersLiberal-tarian’s First Law.

    No $15/hour minimum wage hike in Dems’ budget plan, from what I can see. Has just entirely disappeared from the Washington policy debate after the parliamentarian’s non-binding opinion. Very, very hard to see how it would get done in Biden’s first 2 years … so, then: When?

    Democrats know their real base is Silicon Valley, Wall Street, multimillionaire entertainers, and billionaires. None of those groups would benefit from a minimum wage increase. Indeed, billionaire employers like Reason.com’s benefactor Charles Koch would be hurt.

    #VoteDemocratToHelpTheRich

    1. Indeed, billionaire employers like Reason.com’s benefactor Charles Koch would be hurt.

      Which is why importing Guatemalans unencumbered by minimum wage laws is more important than ever, right?

      Open Borders Uber Alles.

      1. We need more brown bodies for the rich to exploit.

    2. They sure won’t pass it after the midterms when they lose control of both Houses of Congress.

  10. https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1425074668919209987?s=19

    NEW – Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos, and Michael Bloomberg team up to form a joint venture to drill for about $1.4 trillion worth of rare natural resources for electric car batteries on Greenland’s pristine land.

    1. Green land indeed.

    2. I don’t trust those three farther than I can throw them, but good. Right now China controls to much of that.

      1. So? For the last 110 yrs. we’ve driven cars and powered homes without the need for the specific rare resources.

        1. I want us to use both. Great batteries and internal combustion engines.

          1. So? For the last 120 yrs. we’ve driven vehicles powered by diesel electric motors without the need for the specific rare resources. The resources in question are specifically required to create an all-electric motor pool and there’s plenty of evidence to indicate that it’s impossible to do so for the US, let alone the rest of N. America, S. America, Europe, Africa, and Asia.

    3. Wait, what happened to Trump’s plan to buy Greenland?

      1. Gates outbid him.

    4. Hey, it’s not their fault the ice sheets are gone and mining is easier now.

    5. do we need to melt more of that ice/snow pack to make it easier?

  11. Am I the only one who thought “California Law Would Limit Free Speech at Vaccination Sites” would be about tattooing the part of the arms where the injections go?

    1. Probably. 🙂

    2. Seems like a valuable guide for the beginner intravenous addict.

  12. So we have one side who doesn’t respect the individual and will crush our country in debt, and we have the other side who doesn’t respect free and fair elections and will crush our country in debt.

    Finally, the true libertarian moment.

    1. “Free and fair elections”

      LOL
      This is what gaslighting looks like.

      1. They’re so free and fair they’re beyond scrutiny. Now, seriously, stop scrutinizing them.

        1. Do not question your state betters.

        2. Free , fair and fortified!

      2. So where are the bags of fraudulent ballots? Where are the reprogrammed voting machines? Where is the tangible proof of MASSIVE FRAUD?

        All you have are paranoid concerns. All you have are “behavioral and statistical anomalies” as you mentioned in a previous post. That doesn’t prove fraud. All that means was that this election was unusual in that it occurred in the middle of a pandemic with greatly expanded access to absentee and mail-in voting. OF COURSE this election is going to look “anomalous” compared to all of the others because no other election had been conducted under these particular set of circumstances before. It doesn’t mean there was MASSIVE FRAUD.

        Show us the tangible fucking evidence of fraud or shut the fuck up.

        Your guy LOST to a doddering senile old man who ran a terrible campaign, because your guy is a terrible human being. Just own it.

        1. “So where are the bags of fraudulent ballots? Where are the reprogrammed voting machines? Where is the tangible proof of MASSIVE FRAUD?”

          All over the place. People have been pleading for investigations since election night, and team Blue has employed an army of lawyers to stop them.
          https://hereistheevidence.com/

          You’re a fifty-centing shill, so you actually already know this, but nobody hires 100 lawyers to hide a legitimate election victory. Nobody has the DOJ interfere in a state ordered audit because they won fair and square.

          1. ML….It will all come out, eventually. It will take years. The people who acted wrongly will eventually be named, and the truth of what happened in several states in the 2020 election will come out.

            1. And no one will suffer any consequences.

              1. Yes. Nothing else will happen.

        2. The ballots were printed on cheap bamboo-based Chinese paper, so they disintegrated.

          1. “I can’t refute their replies, chemjeff. But I’ve got your back. Here’s a funny little strawman I made.”

        3. Look how desperate the fat fucking regime mouthpiece gets. “It totally looks like fraud, and was set up to make fraud as easy as possible, but that’s just because this thing that they’ve been lying about for 18 months straight made everything different than normal!”
          – a month of full court press from media, which is documented as taking orders from the DNC, with articles about how Trump would be winning at the end of election day (though the margin was much bigger than predicted), except Biden would win because of mail in counts
          – “We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics”
          – 30m more votes than ever, a 25% increase from the previous high
          – pauses in vote reporting in swing states, using outright fabrications as excuses
          – expulsion and/or blocking of observers
          – video of boxes of ballots removed from concealment and counted after announcements that counting was stopped for the night
          – thousands of affidavits from people alleging first hand witnessing of suspicious, illegal behavior and/or fraud
          – massive inconsistencies between states like GA and PA with neighbors FL (and the rest of the southeast) and OH without legitimate explanation, when they should be somewhat similar
          – statistically impossible ratios for mail in ballots, with Biden often receiving 100% batches
          – lack of signature verification, destruction of evidence, attempts to block any and all attempts to examine results, censorship of people questioning results and procedures, and no understanding/explanation whatsoever by the winning party of how they won beyond “orangemanbad”, despite it’s inconsistency with human nature and previous elections (for example, Trump winning 18/19 “bellwether” counties and Rs winning 27/27 “toss up” house districts)

          No, all you have to respond with is:
          – “there’s no evidence” (and attempts to block all search for evidence), then when evidence is presented you say “that’s not real evidence”
          – “poll workers and government officials and media wouldn’t lie” except they have, continuously, about the election, covid, Russia, racism, and numerous other events
          – “you’re a conspiracy theorist”, you may think it adequately dismissive, but the term has been applied to so much that has turned out to be accurate in the last 18 months (let alone the beginning of Trump’s presidency with the Obama administration using the FBI and IC to attempt to frame Trump)

          You’ve got nothing beyond “trust me, bro” coming from sources which have repeatedly proven themselves the least trustworthy sources which exist, and requiring we reject all logic, personal observation, math, and precedent/history.

          1. -expulsion and/or blocking of observers
            – video of boxes of ballots removed from concealment and counted after announcements that counting was stopped for the night

            And literally over 99% of those ballots going to Biden.

          2. There is so much nonsense here, it’s hard to know where to start.

            – statistically impossible ratios for mail in ballots, with Biden often receiving 100% batches

            The two campaigns had different GOTV strategies. Trump encouraged his voters to vote in person on election day. Biden encouraged his voters to vote by mail. That is why the mail-in ballots were “statistically impossible” (not really). Given the different strategies of the two campaigns, there is no reason to expect statistically that mail-in ballots should be equally distributed among Trump voters and Biden voters.

            But if you believe this explanation is insufficient – SHOW US the batches of mail-in ballots that you believe are fraudulent, and demonstrate the fraud. You simply can’t, because they weren’t.

            – massive inconsistencies between states like GA and PA with neighbors FL (and the rest of the southeast) and OH without legitimate explanation, when they should be somewhat similar

            Why should they be similar? GA and PA were swing states. FL and OH less so. The two campaigns paid far more attention to GA and PA than they did to OH and FL. Your assumption that “they should be similar” is a faulty assumption for this reason.

            But again – if I’m wrong, then SHOW US the actual fraud that took place in GA and PA. Alluding to vague “inconsistencies” when there is a perfectly reasonable explanation for such inconsistencies is not good enough.

            – video of boxes of ballots removed from concealment and counted after announcements that counting was stopped for the night

            This has been debunked so many times. Here it is, once again:

            https://www.wsbtv.com/news/politics/georgia-election-officials-show-frame-by-frame-what-really-happened-fulton-surveillance-video/T5M3PYIBYFHFFOD3CIB2ULDVDE/

            Now, if you think this is a lie, then SHOW US why you think it is a lie, and your evidence for it. You cannot.

            – 30m more votes than ever, a 25% increase from the previous high

            Yes. There was a pandemic and mail-in voting was made much easier, therefore, more people participated. Again, a perfectly reasonable explanation that does not rely on an assumption of MASSIVE FRAUD. But again, if I’m wrong, SHOW US which of those 30 million ballots were fraudulent, and why you think they are. You cannot.

            – thousands of affidavits from people alleging first hand witnessing of suspicious, illegal behavior and/or fraud

            I read some of those affidavits. The ones that I read, relied on second-hand/third-hand information, hearsay, and projections of sinister behavior onto otherwise innocuous activity. But if I’m wrong, SHOW US the affidavit where the affiant observed direct unambiguous fraudulent behavior. You cannot because they didn’t.

            No, all you have to respond with is:
            – “there’s no evidence” (and attempts to block all search for evidence), then when evidence is presented you say “that’s not real evidence”

            There is no evidence of MASSIVE FRAUD. All you have is conspiratorial thinking.

            – “poll workers and government officials and media wouldn’t lie” except they have, continuously, about the election, covid, Russia, racism, and numerous other events

            Oh they are perfectly capable of lying, just like any human being is. But claiming that they are, collectively, all lying about the election, just because some of them may have lied in the past about other things, is a logical fallacy. If you think they are lying ABOUT A SPECIFIC CLAIM, you have to demonstrate the specific lie.

            – “you’re a conspiracy theorist”, you may think it adequately dismissive, but the term has been applied to so much that has turned out to be accurate in the last 18 months (let alone the beginning of Trump’s presidency with the Obama administration using the FBI and IC to attempt to frame Trump)

            Fine, if you are going to go full nihilist and just imagine everyone is lying, then I have to ask, why do you accept so uncritically the claims of the affiants? Why do you accept uncritically what Sidney Powell and Rudy Giuliani and Donald Trump say about the election? Why do you think THEY are telling the truth, and not, say, just engaging in sore loserism and grifting? Trump raised about $250 million for his post-election challenges. He has spent less than 10% of that. Where did all the money go? Hmm? Aren’t you at all curious about that?

            1. “Trust the proven liars, not your lying eyes, bro.”
              -collectivistjeff

              Now go fuck yourself you abject lying bitch.

              1. Dude’s whole argument is that fraud is unfathomable, and that patterns of behavior and statistical consistency aren’t indicative of reality.
                But no matter how hard collectivistjeff tries, 2+2=4, not 5.

                1. Dude’s whole argument is that fraud is unfathomable,

                  Nope – fraud is perfectly fathomable and possible. But claims of fraud require PROOF, not hand-waving claims of “statistical anomalies” and “I just know they’re lying”.

                  and that patterns of behavior and statistical consistency aren’t indicative of reality.

                  No, they are absolutely indicative of reality. The challenge is how to interpret these patterns and these statistics. There are perfectly reasonable explanations for these patterns and these statistics that do not rely on assumptions of MASSIVE FRAUD. If you want to try to falsify these assumptions then go right ahead. But you cannot.

                  But no matter how hard collectivistjeff tries, 2+2=4, not 5.

                  Yup, 2+2=4 (in the base 10 number system). And 2+2=4 even if a Democrat says it is so.

              2. There we go. You can’t offer a substantive rebuttal, only insults, fallacies, and conspiratorial thinking.

                You have no meaningful proof of any actual fraud. All you have are suspicions and nihilism.

                The question remains, though, Nardz: What did Trump et al. do with all the money?

                https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-rnc-raised-hundreds-millions-pushing-baseless-election/story?id=75633798

                But of the more than $280 million raised since after the election, the Trump campaign and the RNC — which were the main forces behind Trump’s post-election legal challenges — reported spending only about $13 million on legal expenses, filings show.

                Here is the reality, Nardz:

                Trump’s claims about a stolen election were a SHAM. It was a CON, a grift to get you to give him your money and enrich him at your expense. This is who Trump has always been. A liar projecting an image that is very different from reality. You have been conned yet you continue to do their bidding. Wake up and realize what has happened to you.

    2. If one side is planning to spend 6 trillion dollars and tax revenues are 5 trillion dollars, yes they will crush the country in debt.

      If the other side is planning to spend 12 trillion dollars and hike tax revenues to 6 trillion dollar dollars, guess which side is going to be crushing the country in debt even more?

      Getting hit by a 100-yard-diameter meteor is bad. Getting hit by 600-yard-diameter meteor is a lot worse.

      1. Electing people from a political party that undermines free and fair elections is also very bad.

        I for one, do not want to play the game of supporting either two piss-poor choices. Playing that game is for suckers.

  13. https://twitter.com/EmeraldRobinson/status/1425078005802708998?s=19

    How bad are things? Things are so bad that a college dropout with no medical training whose best friend was Jeffrey Epstein is the single most powerful influencer of global health policy in the world.

  14. Fascinating thread about how junk aggregator/clickbait sites inserted a fake detail (an orphaned baby) into this story …

    I’m beginning to wonder if we can no longer trust journalism.

    1. Too late to abort now.

    2. This is going to put Fusion GPS out of business.

    3. Fist, your mere suggestion of such is a threat to the First Amendment!

  15. Large school districts in Florida and Texas are rejecting their state’s law against mask mandates.

    Oh, heavens, which mandate to enforce?

  16. When New York decided to stop cracking down on sex workers, it maintained harsh policing of sex workers’ customers…

    So the dealers get off scot-free???

    1. Somebody’s got to go to prison.

  17. The task order states that the beagles are to be euthanized 196 days after the start of the study.

    SNOOPY!

    1. Better to just give them infectious diseases, conduct your research, and then let them loose. Better still to just conduct zero medical research. Best to use the public to conduct your research.

  18. The latest data from the Department of Labor turned up 10.1 million open jobs at the end of June.

    Booming Biden economy.

    1. Jobs Americans won’t do.

  19. Over the past week, the 10 least vaccinated states are averaging 3.0x per cases per capita than the 10 most vaccinated states, 4.3x more hospitalizations per capita, and 6.5x more deaths per capita.

    Can anything account for this outside of vaccination rates?

    1. Can anything account for this outside of vaccination rates?

      Of the 64 people shot in Chicago this weekend, 100% were vaccinated. Including the orphaned baby who was also vaccinated the number rises to 102%.

      1. They should have worn masks.

    2. Shhhhhhhh! We can’t talk about seasonality and the fact that the states seeing an increase over the summer were the same ones that saw one last year.

      But at this point we’re only a couple months from the winter wave rolling over the whole country, and the NPI lovers will once again have to eat shit.

    3. They also talk in relative terms because the raw numbers aren’t scarry enough

      1. ^

  20. DoJ prosecutors continue to hold exculpatory evidence, asking for another 60 days extension to turning over materials to defense lawyers.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/08/09/doj-tells-court-it-is-still-reviewing-potentially-exculpatory-evidence-in-capitol-riot-cases/

    They continue to keep people on pre trial detention with minimal access to lawyers and often in solitary.

    Those held include people who committed no violence nor detention.

    On the case above the person did not even enter the Capitol building.

    Amazing watching a libertarian magazine either defend this or ignore this.

    1. From the DoJ brief.

      Although we are aware that we possess some information that the defense may view as supportive of arguments that law enforcement authorized defendants (including Defendant) to enter the restricted grounds, e.g., images of officers hugging or fist-bumping rioters, posing for photos with rioters, and moving bike racks, we are not in a position to state whether we have identified all such information.

      1. They have to be very careful, after all it was worse that 9-11.

        1. “worse that 9-11”

          The people who claimed that deserve to be beaten with bike locks by 9/11 widows.

      2. WTF! You can NEVER be sure you’ve identified “all such information”.

        1. Neat trick, huh?

    2. Finding out that their ‘traitorous insurgents’ actually weren’t won’t affect chemleft or White Mike’s narrative in the least.

    3. Amazing watching a libertarian magazine either defend this or ignore this.
      Again, tacit approval. They can’t have it both ways.

  21. Mississippi health authorities say there are no intensive care unit beds left in the state as new coronavirus cases overwhelm hospitals.

    We should all strive for 100% efficiency like this.

    1. Finally turning a profit.

    2. There are 346 ICU beds in the entire state of Mississippi.

    3. It’s bizarre- if you look at the hospitalization rates for MS on that site, you see that in July 2020 and in Jan 2021, they had higher numbers of people in ICUs than current…so why is it they are out of capacity now?

      1. Because the journalists are left-wingers and are lying to advance a narrative.

      2. Staff attrition?

      3. They sold their extras?

      4. NY needed them for their nursing homes.

    4. It’s nice to see CON laws in action working exactly as they were designed. No need, no certificate, no beds. What could go wrong?

  22. “‘…the American Civil Liberties Union said it has no issues with it [SB 742] as written,” California Healthline reported.”‘

    Of course they don’t. They obviously need to reread “The Constitution for Dummies.”

  23. Texas Supreme Court denies the Texas fleebaggers of their pay they are requesting for not showing up to their jobs.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/abbott-wins-texas-supreme-court-denies-dem-lawmakers-request-to-restore-pay-after-walkout

    1. Denied a majority Republican legislature of pay. Good work!

      1. Way to read the article or the bill Sullum.

        Who wants to tell him who it effects?

        1. You tell me. I suppose you believe the funding veto only effects Democrats. What makes you believe that? I read the article and it wasn’t explicitly clear but it seemed to suggest that Abbot had vetoed all funding for legislative salaries.

          1. It effects staffers. Reading is not difficult. Just mouth the words. The executive can not hamper the legislativor pay itself. It effects their offices.

          2. Well I will stand corrected. The Supreme Court did also include lawmaker pay.

            Odd you support only defending the gop though and seemingly applaud democrats getting paid for not doing their job.

        2. “Who wants to tell him who it effects?”

          Who expects the steaming pile of lefty shit to understand if it were somehow put in single-syllable words?

      2. It hurts your allies, too, so it’s not all bad.

  24. The infrastructure package will fuel inflation…

    Inflation is infrastructure.

    1. I hope it’s not fossil fuel!

  25. Oregon believes kids should graduate high school without being able to read or do math at any level.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/oregon-suspends-high-school-graduation-standards-to-make-equitable-rules-for-students-of-color

    1. That will work well when the kid applies to an out of state college.

      1. CRT math doesn’t require actual math and seems to be based on visual meme.

      2. Colleges won’t be far behind. Around 25-40% of incoming freshmen already need remedial math and science courses, and some colleges are getting rid of SAT and ACT scores.

        Don’t be shocked if the GRE, LSAT, and MCAT goes away in about 10 years for incoming grad students, too, because being able to have basic knowledge of your chosen profession, and demonstrating advanced reasoning skills, is rayciss and sheeeeeeeiitt.

        1. When I taught Intro. to Finance at a state university, which was taken mostly by college juniors, I had to hold a special session in order to teach decimals and fractions. I think it goes without saying which of my students needed the session.

  26. https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1425015113178832898?s=19

    France: A migrant from Rwanda bludgeoned a senior priest to death who had given him shelter. The African migrant was currently released on bail for allegedly setting fire to the cathedral of Nantes when he killed the priest yesterday.
    [Link]

    1. Immigrants like this should be given a Greek letter rather than identifying where they came from.

    2. “…was currently released on bail for allegedly setting fire to the cathedral”

      You need to set stuff on fire to get released on bail? Sounds like Portland.

  27. AOCs jan 6th story keeps expanding. Now claims she had fears of being raped.

    https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/kevindowneyjr/2021/08/09/watch-aoc-says-she-feared-being-raped-on-january-6-n1468232

    Mind you, the story she tells is prior to a single person entering the Capitol building. The knocks on her door were done as a security check before anyone came through a door.

    1. Was Cuomo in DC that day? Charlie Rose? Al Franken? Any Kennedys? Bill Clinton? Matt Lauer?

      1. Damn. Good point.

      2. Well Biden was president elect. So there was concern. She does have nice hair.

      3. Hunter Biden was in town

    2. Rapists always knock first.

    3. If I concocted a story of being practically raped and murdered at an event, and then everyone found out that I was never there, I’d die of shame.

      Not those clowns though.

    4. She wasn’t even in the building at the time.

  28. https://twitter.com/_BarringtonII/status/1425086873903452160?s=19

    Twitter suspends Marjorie Taylor Greene’s account for one week – CNN

    Greene tweeted that the FDA “should not approve the covid vaccines.” She also claimed the vaccines were “failing” and that they were ineffective at reducing the virus’s spread.”

    Ummmmm [link]

    1. https://twitter.com/Theo_TJ_Jordan/status/1424927660493484041?s=19

      Have you all seen this clip yet? I dont use other SM so I cant confirm, but I heard today it was pulled from both YouTube and Facebook (acct suspended on FB, that from one I do trust).

      Why would this banned?!? We’re talking not allowed to be spoken. Mind-boggling where we are. [Video]

      1. But this is just fine…

        https://twitter.com/RashidaTlaib/status/1424936953296957442?s=19

        Mike Brown is a tragic reminder that state sponsored murder exist. He and many others serve as angels of our conscious to keep fighting for true racial justice.

        Those who are complicit and standing on the sidelines enable this injustice to continue.

      2. Wow that vid should be mandatory. Dude lays it all out in plain English in 6 minutes.

  29. NBC analyst says we need to be nicer to politicians and ignore their hypocritical parties.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/1425067993868943374

    1. We should be nicer to retired politicians, for sure.

  30. Coming to a blue city near you…. France send out police for random checks of vaccine passports to people shopping or eating at cafes.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/PaoneAntony/status/1424730996738568195

    1. It’s not like anyone might get shot one day or anything.

    2. France was well trained under the Occupation.

  31. In the past, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) has gone to bat against these types of restrictions, but “the American Civil Liberties Union said it has no issues with it [SB 742] as written,” California Healthline reported.

    Maybe the ACLU should change its name since they clearly don’t care about civil liberties anymore.

    1. Trans American Civil Liberties Union or TACL U.


  32. Nate Silver
    @NateSilver538
    Over the past week, the 10 least vaccinated states are averaging 3.0x per cases per capita than the 10 most vaccinated states, 4.3x more hospitalizations per capita, and 6.5x more deaths per capita.

    https://nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/covid-cases.html

    Add nate silver to another pundit ignoring the seasoning spread of the virus that mimics last year.

    1. It’s especially maddening because in May when cases were dropping everywhere and the ‘experts’ claimed they had no idea why, WE WERE TELLING EVERYBODY TO WATCH OUT FOR THE SUNBELT SUMMER SPIKE THAT WAS COMING.

      And sure enough it showed up exactly when and where we said it would. So the media blames……..the people.

  33. https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1425098463117811719?s=19

    The CDC published a COVID-19 planning document that suggested relocating “high-risk individuals” to “green zones” or “camps” in order to keep them away from the rest of the population.

    [Link]

    1. It’s for their own good.

    2. Camps for concentrating high risk individuals?

      1. They can call it the Cuomo plan.

  34. Lol, it won’t let me copy the direct link to the article. Hopefully the tweet stays up for at least a few minutes

    https://twitter.com/ConceptualJames/status/1425093698673647617?s=19

    Our societies will, in the end, pay dearly for this cowardice and malice.

    “Surgeon fired by College of Medicine for voicing safety concerns about Covid shots for children

    POSTED ON: JUNE 23, 2021

    SASKATCHEWAN: The Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms represents Dr. Francis Christian, Clinical Professor of General Surgery at the University of Saskatchewan and a practising surgeon in Saskatoon. Dr. Christian was called into a meeting today, suspended from all teaching responsibilities effective immediately, and fired from his position with the University of Saskatchewan as of September 2021.”

      1. No, Reason wasn’t preventing copying the link – Twitter was

        1. Ahh. Gotcha. Sorry.

          1. No need for apology.

            Big Tech is just shameless in their propaganda. Can’t voice doubts, or even ask questions, about mass human experimentation without risking censorship/expulsion, but totes ok to straight up lie about extensively documented facts in order to rouse fear and create racial tension…

    1. Oh, Canada.

  35. “An Oregon high school diploma does not guarantee that students who earned it can read, write or do math at a high school level.”

    “Governor Kate Brown dropped the requirement that students demonstrate they have achieved those essential skills by signing Senate Bill 744 into law. She declined again Friday to comment on why she supported suspending the proficiency requirements, reported OregonLive.”

    So, then, will she trim the budget by laying-off all English and Math teachers?

    Remember when education consisted primarily of the “three R’s.”
    I imagine that was too long ago for many readers here.

    1. Well writing and arithmetic never started with an “R”. So they are correcting that error.

    2. Remember when education consisted primarily of the “three R’s.”

      No, but I can remember when education required you to understand a history book, which had at least one of the three as a prerequisite.

      1. “No, but I can remember when education required you to understand a history book, which had at least one of the three as a prerequisite.”

        And, one sometimes even had to write a paper about it, perish the thought!!!

    3. Rape, Reparations and Reassignment surgery

      1. Well played

  36. The first Civilian Climate Corps

    Will they wear brown* green shirts?

    *To anyone currently getting their panties in a bunch over a random Nazi reference, note that this is what’s commonly known as “a joke.” If you don’t get it, just move on.

    1. Fuck echospinner the passive-aggressive totalitarian leftist simp

      1. Amen.

      2. Absolutely.

    2. What should I do if I get the joke? Stay?

      1. Sure, why not? As long your wearing non-bunching underwear.

        1. I usually run commando, so it’s all good.

        2. Underwear made from genetically superior cotton.

        3. chicks dig me because I rarely wear underwear …

  37. “it’s going to bring us back here to clean up a mess that we could have prevented,” Sen. Pat Toomey (R–Penn.) said.

    Isn’t that Congress’ main job? Cleaning up messes they created, which then creates another mess they have to go back and clean up, which creates another mess they have to go back and clean up, which creates another mess they have to go back and clean up, and so on, and so on ad infinitum.

    1. I thought that was Science’s job.

      1. The Science

  38. The National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) “directed $424,455 to researchers at the University of Georgia in September 2020 to infect dozens of beagles with disease-causing parasites in order to test an experimental drug on them,” the Daily Caller reports on what White Coat Waste uncovered. “The task order states that the beagles are to be euthanized 196 days after the start of the study.”

    If you want to make an omelette, you gotta kill 196 dogs.

    1. It’s 2021 dammit! Killing beagles for research is a reprehensible waste of life. Declare an emergency, skip the beagles, spend the $424K on propaganda advertising, and conduct your research directly on human subjects.

      1. I assume that the “disease-causing parasites” they infected the pooches with are parasites that only infect dogs.

        So first, do gain of function research on the parasites so that they can infect humans, then conduct the research on human subjects after it “accidentally” escapes the lab.

        *adjusts tinfoil hat*

    2. Fauci is a monster.

      1. kinda need a monster if the plans advance death.

    3. Surprised NIAID hasn’t been hounded about this.

    4. If you can’t convince them with dead children, try dead puppies.

  39. https://summit.news/2021/08/09/journalist-im-going-to-miss-being-locked-down-pines-for-another/

    “When I walked out of my town’s massive conference center in early April, a second Pfizer shot fresh in my arm, a flood of emotions swelled in me. Creeping behind the feelings of joy and anticipation, I felt a strange bit of sadness that, all the way home, I could not shake. When I walked into my house and my three-year-old dashed into my arms, it hit me,” wrote Venutolo-Mantovani.

    “I think I’m going to miss being locked down, I realised, in disbelief.”

    1. She really needs to just quit her job and be a housewife.

      1. What kind of idiot would want an emotion wreck like that for a wife?

      2. Actually the journalist in question is a dude. I can understand assuming it was a woman. I did at first, since it’s usually women who hyphenate their last names and whine and whinge about not having enough time with their kids after buying the lie that they can have a career and a family and fully enjoy both aspects of their life without any regrets* (e.g., that they can have their cake and eat it too).

        *If people choose to try and have a full time career and be a parent that is, of course, their prerogative, but the idea that they won’t have to make trade offs and compromises and won’t feel bad about not miss out on anything is fucking daffy.

        1. Actually the journalist in question is a dude.

          My critique stands.

          1. Touche. As I said, it definitely comes off as the typical whining of a “career woman” who ends up shocked that she really can’t “have it all” and that life involves choices, trade offs, and sacrifices. Like not having as much time with your kids due to your decision to also work full time.

            1. Yeah, there isn’t any difference between that hyper-emotive bilge and something that might have been in Cosmo or Ms. magazine 20-30 years ago.

              1. So true, Red. They (cosmo, ms readership) were just Crybabies then; now they morphed into Crybullies.

              2. “We’re a generation of men raised by women. I’m wondering if another woman is really the answer we need.”

                1. True and a good movie.

                2. The first rule of CRT is don’t talk about CRT.

    2. The main thrust of the argument is that the lockdown gave Venutolo-Mantovani an excuse to slow down, not have to go into the office, and spend more time with his family.

      IOW, stupid twat doesn’t recognize that he can either ask his current employer for more work/ life balance and to work from home more and instead wishes for the government to impose his preferences on everyone at the point of a gun.

      I couldn’t think of a more succinct summation of the mindset of the modern progressive if I tried.

      1. Thats the thing – the pajama class likes the lockdown lifestyle for themselves, but only if everyone else is forced to put their lives on hold too. Otherwise, they might miss out on something

        1. And don’t forget the ‘Essentials’ that need to continue to deliver the comfort the pajama class needs daily.

          1. How better to cement class status?

  40. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York told CNN’s Dana Bash that she was afraid she was going to be raped and killed on January 6, when a mob of pro-Trump insurrectionists laid siege to the US Capitol in a failed effort to overturn the 2020 US election results.

    LOL, keep in mind she wasn’t actually in the Capitol when the tourists waltzed in.

    Bitch is revealing a hell of lot more here than I think she realizes. But considering her boyfriend, it’s not a surprise that she’s having rape fantasies about brutish blue-collar Republicans.

    1. Claiming she feared for her life wasn’t getting her enough attention, especially when it was debunked within a day or two of her initial claims, so I guess she decided to do what proggie dipshits do best: double down. Now she claims she wasn’t just afraid for her life but was afraid she was going to be raped. LO-fucking-L. What a stupid cunt.

      1. There was some NSFW Twitter post out there called “I want to get pounded by a Republican” that was posted by some lefty thot after a protest event where she saw a male with actual testosterone for the first time in her life.

        That post was the first thing I thought of when Cortez talked about how she thought she was going to be raped. She clearly wants a muscle-bound Republican plumber to lay the pipe to her.

        1. She clearly wants a muscle-bound Republican plumber to lay the pipe to her.

          It’s times like this that in a sick way I kind of miss SugarFree.

          1. I get where you’re coming from, but wanting SugarFree fiction is a serious Monkey’s Paw situation.

        2. Jose the Plumber

  41. https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/now-time-strike-root-confidence

    Because of this instability, this fragility, it is incumbent on us right now to say “No,” everywhere. Threats of job loss over vaccination? No, force them to fire you. The lawyers will be standing 20 deep to take your case to court.

    In Moscow the restaurants lost 80% of their business overnight after the city instituted a vaccine passport to eat out. The response? Russians just said, “No,” and cooked. This is your model.

    All during the ‘pandemic’ in my home town I avoided places that mandated a mask and ignored the warnings on those places that tried to browbeat me into wearing one.

    I walked in, was polite, did my business and left.

    I wore masks out of politeness to locals outside of my hometown. But, that’s it.

    1. Today, we are being coerced to accept second-class citizenship for not getting vaccinated where the vaccines do nothing to stop the spread of the virus. This is being framed as irresponsibility when, if anything, the vaccinated carry higher viral loads making them potential super-spreaders endangering everyone else.

      I don’t need to get an experimental gene therapy to validate your life choices.

      I need you to see that there is more to life than following the mandates of psychopaths and pathological liars to err on the side of caution.

      No wonder there’s an increasing cohort of people moving into Stage 5, just saying ‘No.’ The time for virtue-signaling is over. The time for lying about masks, death statistics and the basics of virology is over. This is a political operation and we need to treat it as such.

      If you got the jab, fine. If you didn’t have a side-effect, great!

      If you got COVID afterwards, had mild symptoms and recovered, even better. I’m glad you survived.

      But, it stops there. Don’t worry about me. Now it’s your responsibility to understand what the true stakes are and find a future that doesn’t end in derangement, a permanent underclass and mass death.

      So, let’s stop pretending that any of this now is about public health, and hasn’t been for more than a year. If anything it has always been about your personal health and therefore getting a vaccine should be a personal choice.

      1. Anything beyond that is pure politics serving the interests of those who have been caught red-handed lying about every bit of this and profiting from our shared misery egregiously.

        It is about the failure of the state to make good on its basic promises for decades and coming to terms with that honestly. Now the State’s lies about COVID and the vaccines are distractions from their failures, dividing us to not only maintain that power but expand it exponentially.

        Our confidence in them is gone. That much is crystal clear. What isn’t obvious to many is that their confidence in our willingness to go along with them is also gone. That’s why they are so swiftly moving into Stage 4.

        Because that is the far scarier state of play for them.

        The more we simply go to Stage 5 and say, “No,” the quicker this entire operation collapses and we can get on with Stage 6, fixing what was broken.

        1. Americans are too weak to fight back.

        2. Oh my dear Lord. You people are ridiculous.
          There is no worldwide conspiracy to seize dictatorial power under the guise of a pandemic.
          The vaccine is not a massive “psy-op”. They don’t have microchips either.
          You all are paranoid nutters. And this is what I suspected what “being red-pilled” all along meant. It doesn’t mean “seeing the world as it truly is”, as it means in The Matrix. It means “seeing conspiracies around every corner”.

          1. It means “seeing conspiracies around every corner”.

            I don’t want to see them. I can’t turn on my TV without an advertisement of CDC policy. A policies that the CDC itself is having meetings on (but, somehow not conspiring!) to make sure that they aren’t the crazy ones.

          2. With your team’s massive attacks on personal liberties and freedom of thought and speech, you can’t blame people for thinking conspiracy theories are IRL spoilers.

          3. Hint: You don’t survive this.

            Act accordingly, simp.

          4. are you qualified to explain The Matrix?

          5. So, because some nutters believe in crazy theories – you can ignore valid arguments that come to a similar conclusion?

            I don’t even know the name of this logical fallacy. Seems like a new one.

          6. Keep building those strawmen.
            No one is claiming a conspiracy is behind it all and no one except you has ever seriously mentioned microchips here. The fact is that many governments around the world have taken on dictatorial powers. If you don’t find that deeply troubling, I don’t know what to say.

        3. But I did read the comments to your article. Is this what you think “libertarians” are?

          9/11 was an inside job, the “3% fought in the Revolution” myth, Americans are brainwashed sheep, get your “safe house” prepped for when the civil war comes, it just goes on and on

          Do you think this is what “real libertarianism” is?

          1. No, but it would be as valid as your interpretation that libertarianism is just collectivist leftism that bitches about (some) taxes

            1. chemjeff ‘libertarianism’ begins and ends with government subsidized weed and catamites.

      2. I don’t need to get an experimental gene therapy to validate your life choices.

        It’s so conceptually backwards I had to read it twice to confirm that you wrote it correctly.

    2. “In Moscow the restaurants lost 80% of their business overnight after the city instituted a vaccine passport to eat out. The response? Russians just said, “No,” and cooked. This is your model.”

      That’s a function of the legitimacy of the government, but it’s also a function of culture.

      Drunk Germans will wait for the pedestrian signals to change at three o’clock in the morning before crossing the street, when there isn’t any traffic. Where I was living in Mexico, cars would have run pedestrians over if they police weren’t there to direct traffic. The people there won’t do anything differently unless the police are standing there making them do it. The legislature made a law–so what?

      There’s an old adage that used to go something like this:

      In the United States, if it isn’t illegal, it’s legal. In Germany, if it isn’t legal, it’s illegal. In France, even if it’s illegal, it’s legal. In Russia, even if it’s legal, it’s illegal.

      I doubt the Russians are any braver about losing their liquor licenses because of their national character. I suspect it’s because their liquor licenses depend on the local police and the Russian mob–which are more or less one in the same thing.

      In fact, when the local police and the Russian mafia found out that the restaurants were losing 80% of their revenue because people weren’t vaccinated–and thus the restaurants wouldn’t have the revenue to pay for protection–the police and the mob probably told the restaurant owners to stop discriminating against unvaccinated people–or else.

        1. Which part didn’t I get?

          1. You went off on a tangent about Russia for some reason.
            I suspect it was to make a point about your absolute faith in The Market, but in doing so you minimize the danger that we face.
            But hey, only took a war with 30 million dead to topple the Nazis, and the Soviets faded out after 75 years, so no biggie.

            1. “In Moscow the restaurants lost 80% of their business overnight after the city instituted a vaccine passport to eat out. The response? Russians just said, “No,” and cooked. This is your model.”

              Their model is different.

              The people who run Moscow may have less power than the local police and the local mob–who are probably one in the same thing.

              I’ve made this point in regards to living in Mexico, where getting arrested more or less just opens the negotiation. An unjust system doesn’t become just because the injustice is meted out to everyone equally. If bribing a guard will get you out of a concentration camp, you want the guard and his boss to be corrupt.

              The mob enforced, local police enforced, corrupt government of Moscow is not comparable to the occupancy permit, liquor license, and health department inspection processes in the USA. You generally cannot pay off the health department, the police, the mob, or the city council to not close your restaurant down. There’s no resisting like that in the USA.

              The city, the health department, the police, and your insurance company will shut you down. Incidentally, the reason your local liquor store doesn’t sell beer directly to teenagers is because the negative consequences of doing so are severe and inescapable. Your liquor license will be taken away and sold to someone else.

              1. On the corruption index, Russia ranks better than Nigeria but worse than Mexico.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index

              2. “Submit, because resisting tyranny is too hard”

                Damn, Ken, that’s way worse than what I thought you were going for.

                1. I’m not against resisting, but I’m not sure effective resistance is possible in that way. Any restaurant that gets away with it in large enough numbers to notice will also bring attention to themselves. I wish them all the luck in the world.

                  And I’m not convinced that the reason Americans are less likely to resist is because the Russians are more independently minded than Americans. Corruption can make staying open the path of least resistance. I suspect if Americans could pay off or bribe somebody to look the other way, they would.

                  P.S. Woosh!

  42. Just gazing through the headlines, Donald Trump losing the 2020 election was the worst thing to happen to libertarian capitalism in the U.S. since FDR. If you’re a libertarian capitalist, even if you hate Trump personally, at this point, you should be nostalgic for the bad old days of the Trump administration.

    “Former President Trump on Saturday slammed the Senate’s $1 trillion bipartisan infrastructure package just hours before the upper chamber is scheduled to vote on winding down debate, calling the bill a “disgrace” and pushing Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) to negotiate a better deal.

    The ex-commander in chief issued the message from his Save America PAC, accusing Republican leaders of satisfying the policy agenda of Democrats and telling GOP senators to think “twice before you approve this terrible deal.”

    —-The Hill, August 8, 2021

    https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/566838-trump-slams-mcconnell-infrastructure-package-a-disgrace

    The 17 or so Republicans in the Senate who are backing this bill are probably providing the means by which the Republicans–or someone like him–will take the Republican presidential nomination come 2024. Just as the Tea Party was a reaction to TARP that culminated in the removal of John Boehner from the Speaker’s chair, in 2022 and 2024, Trump and those like him can focus a grass roots movement on eliminating every Republican senator that voted for the infrastructure bill.

    I would prefer someone other than Trump won the Republican nomination for president in 2024. It’s like in the Old Testament, when God told David that he couldn’t build his permanent temple for him because he’d waged too many wars and spilled too much blood. It doesn’t seem fair. David fought those wars with God’s blessing. Fair doesn’t really enter into it though. If we can’t win with suburban women because TDS is such a serious problem, then that’s the way it is. You can’t defy gravity through levitation regardless of whether that’s fair, and you can’t dictate terms to the voter market.

    So, how does someone beat Trump in the primaries? I think you have to do what doom metal bands like Sleep and Electric Wizard did. Their greatest influence was Black Sabbath, but how do you market yourself to Black Sabbath fans? They’ve heard that sound before. Why do they want to hear it again from someone who isn’t Black Sabbath? The answer is that you have to be more Sabbath than Sabbath. You take all the things that made Sabbath different from the other bands, and you double them.

    If anybody beats Trump in the primaries in 2024, it will be because they’re more Trump than Trump–whether I like Trump on that issue or not. Trump won’t win for running against the establishment Republicans if the dominant alternatives to Trump in the primary field aren’t establishment Republicans.

    I would expect the frontrunners to be people like Cruz, Nikki Haley, DeSantis, and Pence–as well as Trump. If anybody beats Trump in that contest, it won’t be because they’re moderate on wildly popular positions like free speech, forever wars, overspending, etc. It’ll be because they’re more Trump than Trump on the issues. The loudest voice is the only one people will hear over the cacophony, and if they aren’t more Trump than Trump, they won’t be heard at all.

    1. Yeah, here’s how you beat Trump in the primaries:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaMbKZPBruU

      P.S.

      “The 17 or so Republicans in the Senate who are backing this bill are probably providing the means by which the Republicans [Trump]–or someone like him–will take the Republican presidential nomination come 2024.”

      —-Ken Shultz

      Fixed!

    2. Trump, the guy who started the eviction ban, tried to pass his own infrastructure bill, and is still rabble rousing with lies about a stolen election.

      1. the guy who started the eviction ban

        Pretty sure that was Pelosi and Schumer, but you’re paid to lie here, so away you go I guess.

    3. Trump, the guy who split the Republican Party, essentially handing the Federal government over to the Democrats. Trump, the guy who couldn’t rein in his offensive personality, even if it would have led to his winning re-election.

      1. Way to invite the wrath of the Trumpistas. That or they’ll just mute you so your criticism of Trump won’t hurt their feelings.

        1. So muting is cowardly?

          1. What’s that? I couldn’t hear you, you were muted.

            Just kidding.

            1. I didn’t catch it. Got him on mute, just like Ken’s got me on mute. But for different reasons.

        2. Look at sarcasmic go. Just upthread he was bragging that he muted everybody, and now he’s bitching about being muted again.

          This is what drinking wood alcohol does to your brain, kids.

          1. Don’t feed the drunken troll.

        3. I’ve got a whole fan club of Trump mean girls who post little gray boxes under my comments. Every once in a while I look; they never make any reply of substance.

          1. Incawnceivable!

    4. Ken, a couple of thoughts.

      POTUS Trump will run in 2024. He will not let it go, unless Team R does. VP Pence is not going to run. He can do the rubber-chicken dinner circuit very profitably now.
      Personally, I would be notably less enthused with Senator Cruz.
      DeSantis is a work in progress. Not ruling him in or out.
      Haley….I love her forthrightness in defending the US, and Israel.

      Kristy Noem, to me, is the best of that entire bunch.

      1. Haley is a neocon with no traction, but it’s incredibly optimistic to think the 2024 election will matter anyway.

        #FLexit

        1. 2016 was America’s last somewhat legitimate election, ever. The establishment is never ever going to make that mistake again.

          1. Suffice it to say, I don’t believe that.

            We’ll see what happens in 2022 and 2024.

      2. Haley’s neocon sympathies in the past are a concern. If she were to condemn forever wars, that might be okay. Trump’s opinions on our wars evolved before he was president, too.

        Because the Democrats are so awful, the marketability of the candidate is a legitimate concern. Because the Democrats were so awful was a legitimate reason to vote for Trump in 2020, too.

        The Democrats would have a hard time smearing Haley as a racist, a sexist, or for being inexperienced. She has executive experience as a governor, and she has legitimate foreign policy experience, too.

        Despite their disputes, she also left the Trump administration on good terms. Trump might even endorse her if she were winning in the primaries. I don’t think Trump would endorse Pence under any circumstances.

        She’s formidable.

        1. DeSantis and Abbott are formidable, which is why the media are trying to make them look worse than Cuomo for dealing with COVID-19.

          1. Haley would wipe the floor with Biden or Harris.

      3. What about Rand?

        1. I live Rand, but he’s a role player, not alpha dog. I could be wrong, but he hasn’t any executive experience to indicate otherwise.
          It’s between Trump and DeSantis, with pretty much no decent options behind them.
          But again, 2024 probably doesn’t matter. We are Soviet/Nazi America now, except our tyrants have way more reach than any that have ever existed before.

          1. Rand as a second to Trump.

          2. I’d like to see Rand on the back end of the ticket where he can focus more on the big picture like his dad did.

        2. Ken Shultz is pro-Rand Paul–even though I think he made a huge mistake by opposing ObamaCare reform. I don’t necessarily bet on my favorite team. Because it’s my team doesn’t mean it’s the team that’s most likely to win. I was just talking about the people most likely to win.

          And if Rand Paul were really serious about becoming president, he’d run for governor of Kentucky first.

          You want to be a governor, a general, or a vice president before you run for president. To my knowledge, there have only been three sitting senators who ran for president and won: Warren G. Harding, Barack Obama, and John F. Kennedy. If he were appointed to a cabinet position, that would help.

  43. The First Amendment protects speech on public sidewalks, including offering leaflets, displaying signs, or conveying oral messages to people who haven’t ‘consen[ted]’

    +1 Charles Schenk

    1. Lizzie Baer’s insolence was hawt.

  44. Huh. So much for local control.

    Florida’s Governor Says School Leaders’ Salary May Be Withheld If They Require Masks

    https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/08/09/1026299001/florida-governor-desantis-school-superintendent-salary-masks

    1. get rid of public schools, problem solved

      1. Noooooooooo…

    2. Ugh, #DeathSantis is just awful.

      I bet he doesn’t want public schoolchildren to be required to take critical race theory classes. We left-libertarians can never support someone like that.

      #RadicalIndividualistsForRacialCollectivism

    3. This should be the job of the Biden administration.

  45. Two years of subsidized community college tuition

    WTF community college is ALREADY subsidized.

  46. My copy of the Bill of Rights must be out of date. It doesn’t mention any “buffer zone” exclusion for exercising freedom of speech.

    1. You mean it doesn’t say, “make no laws unless they mention obscenity or buffer zones”?

  47. >>researchers at the University of Georgia

    rot in Hell for experimenting on Snoopy assholes.

    1. Again, put them at the back of the line until we get through all the people performing gain-of-function research and foisting the vaccine on people. It’s not like they’re giving syphillis to Guatamalans.

      As a libertarian, ‘fuck you, cut spending’ and ‘not my beagle, not my problem’.

  48. The infrastructure bill passes, and Cuomo resigned.

    The 19 Republican senators who voted for it need to be targeted for replacement in the primaries.

    The 31 Republicans who voted against the infrastructure bill need to come together and vote against the 19 who voted for it to replace McConnell as the Republican leader in the Senate. If he speaks for a minority of Republicans in the senate on such a fundamental issue, he has no business being the Republicans’ leader.

    1. Susan Collins isn’t that popular with many Republicans in Maine. The party censured her over the Trump impeachment circus. A few years ago the Ron Paul faction forced Olympia Snowe out (the caucus straw poll had her losing the primary terribly so she declined to seek reelection). And we ended up with King Anus (Angus King, unaffiliated Democrat). But as vanilla Collins has been the general election would likely result in someone worse. And I think she has five years until another election.

      1. Holding politicians accountable for how they vote may be more important than who would replace them.

        They need to think that if they vote for spending bills–like the infrastructure bill or TARP–that there will be hell to pay down the road.

        We need to pave the road with the spoiled careers for Republican senators who voted for this bill, so that those who follow understand the consequences.

        1. I was part of getting rid of Snowe for the same. Iirc, just a few years prior she had the highest approval rating of any sitting senator.
          Collins is not up for reelection until 2026…

        2. “Holding politicians accountable for how they vote may be more important than who would replace them. ”

          That’s not what you said about Trump…

          1. It wasn’t true about Trump.

            Who would replace him was probably much more important than holding him accountable for . . . what?

            The bumpstock ban?

            Immigration and the China trade war would have been the same.

            You could have rewarded Trump for getting us out of Afghanistan, creating an alliance to replace us in the Middle East, deregulation, etc., etc.

            1. “holding him accountable for . . . what?”

              Wow, your ability to turn a blind eye is astounding.

    2. 200 billion dollars is now a rounding error.
      The NYT headline calls is a “$1 Trillion” infrastructure bill.

  49. “When New York decided to stop cracking down on sex workers, it maintained harsh policing of sex workers’ customers,” notes the Cato Institute. Kaytlin Bailey of The Old Pro Project explains on the Cato Daily podcast why full decriminalization should be the path forward.

    Old news. Washington did the same thing.

    1. Oh, and the policy (no prosecution of sex workers, but bringing the hammer down on the customers) was supported by the media/journalists. That needs to be said loudly and clearly.

      Many of their customers were members of a secretive network of men who not only paid for sex — in some cases scores of times — but would also write detailed online reviews of their encounters and encourage others to do the same.

      Using pseudonyms like “TomCat007,” “Captain America” and “Tahoe Ted,” the men posted thousands of sexually explicit reviews on a carefully curated, Seattle-based website called The Review Board. In great detail, they rated a woman’s performance, energy level and physical attributes, and offered recommendations as if they were reviewing restaurants. The website also accepted free advertisements from prostitutes.

      Some likened The Review Board to Yelp, only for paid sex.

      “Recommend? ‘If you are a red-blooded male, (by which I mean Yep.)’ ” wrote one reviewer.

      “Hell to the yes,” wrote another. “I love tiny Asian girls. And Lomi is as tiny as they get.”

  50. The Supreme Court has allowed a Colorado law banning “‘knowingly approach[ing]’ within eight feet of another person [near a medical facility], without that person’s consent, ‘for the purpose of passing a leaflet or handbill to, displaying a sign to, or engaging in oral protest, education, or counseling with such other person.'”

    But this ban was much shorter in distance—8 feet, versus the 30 feet proposed in the California bill—and in its 2000 decision, the Court specifically contrasted this to a 15-foot anti-speech zone it struck down in a 1997 case (Schenck v. Pro-Choice Network). More recently, in the 2014 case McCullen v. Coakley, the Court struck down a 35-foot free speech buffer zone around abortion clinics.

    So the Democrats are declaring all of 2020 to be illegal now. Got it.

    1. Would installing a pamphlet dispenser in the sidewalk and then yelling at them with a bull horn from across the street be acceptable?

      1. Massive air drops of pamphlets OK.

    1. And this is why the Japanese surrendered to the Soviet Union and not to MacArthur.

  51. LOL. 30 ft, 8 ft. 15 ft. Oh, Reason…

  52. Speech must be free but intimidation shouldn’t be.

    The line at a vaccination clinic isn’t a venue for debate.

    The people in line have already decided to be vaccinated not to enter a debate.

    Free speech isn’t a license to harass people until they do what you want.

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