Republican Party

Trump Is Right That Liz Cheney Was a 'Poor Leader' for a Party Dedicated to Indulging His Fantasies and Whims

By stripping her of her leadership position, House Republicans proved her point.

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As expected, House Republicans voted yesterday to strip Rep. Liz Cheney (R–Wyo.) of her leadership position because she continues to criticize former President Donald Trump's "big lie" about the 2020 election. By contrast, Cheney's likely replacement as chair of the House Republican Conference, Rep. Elise Stefanik (R–N.Y.), has been happy to indulge Trump's self-flattering fantasy that massive, orchestrated fraud delivered a phony victory to President Joe Biden.

On her way out, Cheney delivered a defiant speech, greeted by boos from her colleagues, in which she reiterated her warning that the GOP has been corrupted by unquestioning fealty to a man who insists that Republicans live in an alternate universe where he won reelection. Trump responded predictably to Cheney's ouster, describing her as "a poor leader, a major Democrat talking point, a warmonger, and a person with absolutely no personality or heart." He also called her "a bitter, horrible human being."

Although Trump is right about the warmonger part, Cheney's record as an enthusiastic interventionist is irrelevant in this context. Stefanik, who is supported both by Trump and House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R–Calif.), favors increased "defense" spending, opposed withdrawing American troops from Iraq and Afghanistan, and supported U.S. intervention in the Syrian civil war.

Foreign policy plainly has nothing to do with Trump's preference for Stefanik. Neither does support for his priorities as president, since Cheney voted with him more often than Stefanik did. And while it would be a mistake to imagine that Trump actually cares about ideology, Cheney's colleagues in the House ostensibly do, so it is also worth noting that her record is substantially more conservative than Stefanik's.

For Trump, and therefore for House Republicans as well, all that matters is that Stefanik has repeatedly reinforced his baseless charge that Biden stole the presidential election, while Cheney has persistently criticized that fake grievance, which inspired the Capitol riot that led to Trump's second impeachment, as a threat to democracy and the rule of law. She also has warned that her party's transformation into a personality cult undermines its ability to oppose the Democratic agenda, win control of Congress, and promote the policies that its members claim to care about.

Given Cheney's refusal to back down and "move on," it is completely unsurprising that Trump perceives her as unlikable and that he believes she lacks "heart"—meaning the courage to do whatever he wants, which requires no courage at all in a party still dominated by a former president who not only lost the White House but cost Republicans control of the House and Senate. And if Cheney has become "a major Democrat talking point," it is only because Republicans have dedicated themselves to a cause no larger than Trump's mercurial demands.

Trump's charge that Cheney is "a poor leader" likewise has to be understood in that context. As long as the vast majority of House Republicans think kowtowing to Trump's whims is in their political interest, a conspicuous opponent of that view is ill-suited for a role that requires collegiality, collaboration, and a willingness to elevate unity above principle. Cheney's divisiveness seems to be the main concern motivating McCarthy, who thwarted an attempt to depose her after she voted to impeach Trump but turned against her because she felt a need to rebut Trump's continuing portrayal of Biden as an illegitimate president.

Trump has "resumed his aggressive effort to convince Americans that the election was stolen from him," Cheney told her hostile colleagues in a floor speech on Tuesday night. "Remaining silent and ignoring the lie emboldens the liar. I will not participate in that. I will not sit back and watch in silence while others lead our party down a path that abandons the rule of law and joins the former president's crusade to undermine our democracy."

But participating in Trump's lies clearly is a requirement for any Republican who aspires to a leadership position or higher office (and maybe even reelection). By ejecting Cheney, Republicans proved her point.

The New York Times excitedly reports that "over 100 Republicans, including former officials" are threatening to form a third party if the GOP does not separate itself from Trump. "When in our democratic republic, forces of conspiracy, division, and despotism arise, it is the patriotic duty of citizens to act collectively in defense of liberty and justice," they say in a letter that is supposed to be released today.

One of the letter's organizers is Miles Taylor, who served as chief of staff in the Department of Homeland Security during the Trump administration, when he wrote an anonymous New York Times op-ed condemning the president, a critique he later expanded into a book. "I'm still a Republican, but I'm hanging on by the skin of my teeth because [of] how quickly the party has divorced itself from truth and reason," Taylor told the Times. "I'm one of those in the group that feels very strongly that if we can't get the GOP back to a rational party that supports free minds, free markets, and free people, I'm out and a lot of people are coming with me."

While that slogan has a nice ring to it, the fact that the GOP was never a party that consistently supported "free minds, free markets, and free people" is not the only reason to be skeptical. Taylor himself did not publicly reveal his identity until a week before the 2020 election. And if the best Trump critics can muster now is has-beens like former Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Ridge, former New Jersey Gov. Christine Todd Whitman, and former Pennsylvania Rep. Charlie Dent, it seems unlikely they will persuade many (or any) of their fellow Republicans.

"I will do everything I can to ensure that the former president never again gets anywhere near the Oval Office," Cheney told reporters after her ouster. "The party is in a place that we've got to bring it back from. We cannot be dragged backward by the very dangerous lies of a former president." All the evidence suggests that her mission is no less quixotic than Trump's doomed efforts to overturn the results of the presidential election.

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  1. Libertarians for neo-con clown shows is a nice new pivot. Love it.

    1. Huh? There’s nothing “new” about the alliance between neocons and Koch-funded libertarians.

      For instance, I guess you didn’t know Reason’s editor-in-chief used to work with Bill Kristol at The Weekly Standard.

      1. The Koch alliance has seen better days : The Weekly Standard went bust years ago, leaving Kristol in charge of The Bulwark, the favorite website of Neocons and NeoCans on both sides of the Frostbite Falls border.

    2. The Republicans loved her, made the “neo-con clown” their leader before she turned on Trump. People like you vote for these clowns.

    3. This is sadly his second one.

      Let’s watch DoL, Jeff, and Sarcasmic also jump in to defend her all because of evil orange man.

      1. “Sarcasmic” is definitely a sockpuppet for one of the lefty regular staff writers, and probably one of the older ones. That’s why even a relatively innocuous comment referencing our cuirrent Carter-esque state of affairs send him into a rage.

        1. The writers at Reason don’t give two shits what any of you slack jawed yokels think. They don’t give a shit was what any of the non-fascists on here think.

          They’re better than backwards bigots like you. You are so beneath them it would be embarrassing for them to even glance at the comments. The comment section is so infested with Trump fellating rednecks I’m sure they ignore it.

          PS Fuck off you bigot!

          1. Asshole gets one more flag

            1. Have you talked to your sponsor about your BDS?

              1. F/R, asshole.

          2. You honestly make a good point.

          3. So far above us? In what regard? I doubt most of the writers here make that much money. Outside of Nick and maybe Matt, they don’t have that much fame or prestige.

          4. Morbidly obese Ron Jeremy-lookin’ sad clown faggot.

    4. Half-educated bigots, superstitious slack-jaws, disaffected clingers, and other right-wing stains on our society are among my favorite culture war casualties.

  2. I’ve been saying for years the GOP needs to recapture its neocon days of the early 2000s. The best way to do that is to give leadership positions to people with last names like Bush and Cheney.

    #LibertariansForABetterGOP
    #PutTheNeoconsBackInCharge
    #(AtLeastTheyreProImmigration)

    1. And Romney and McCain. Liz Cheney simply wants to return to the days when Republicans could be called Nazi’s and child molesters and corpse rapers, murderers, thieves, crooks and liars, Satan worshipers, genocidal maniacs, and people who put ketchup on steaks and they’d just smile and take it with feeble protests that none of that was true. Fighting back is so vulgar, don’t you know.

      Fuck you, Liz, we’ve seen where playing nice gets you. Trump is an absolute pig of a human being, but at least he’s willing to fight and you’re a feckless cunt who won’t fight if it means the media might say mean things about you and stop inviting you to their cocktail parties. You wouldn’t have an absolute squish, a worm, a pussy like Mitt Romney because he was too much of a right-wing extremist so you got Trump instead.

      You think Trump is extreme? Take him off the board and see what you get next, you stupid bitch. You think Trump is the height of scary? Look at all of human history and see what really scary people did. And don’t think it can’t happen here – we exterminated Indians, we enslaved Africans, we killed half a million of our own brothers, we nuked innocent women and children, we can be pretty goddamn heartless, cold-blooded killers when we want to be. Don’t piss us off.

      1. Absolutely. A big fat liar is needed to lead a pack of other big fat liars in service of the biggest and fattest liar. Liz is none of those things, so she needs to be in a different line of work.

        1. All Cheney has done is get some asspats from people who will hate her guts and trash her if she ever gets within sniffing range of real power.

          Thanks for proving my point.

        2. “…A big fat liar is needed to lead a pack of other big fat liars in service of the biggest and fattest liar…”

          You’d think that 4 months after Trump left office, stinking piles of TDS-addled shits like this would give it a rest, right?
          No. It’s now their total identity. It can’t be that the GOP is tired of hearing TDS-addled assholes like Cheney still whining instead of putting her nose to the grindstone.
          Nope, fucking ignoramuses like DH can’t see past Trump if they tried.
          Fuck off and die, pathetic piece of shit.

          1. The one who hasn’t given it a rest is your boy.

            If he gave it a rest, Liz and everyone else would have nothing to rebut.

            When will you call for your boy to give it a rest?

            1. “The one who hasn’t given it a rest is your boy.”

              First, he’s not ‘my boy’; he simply did far better as POTUS than anyone for the last 80 years at least, regardless of his obvious faults.
              He’s YOUR BOY: You and the remainder of the TDS-addled piles of shit, in your adolescent idiocy, focused solely on his personality, as if he were some daytime TV star, rather than what he did. He’s become a large part of your (and others’) identity, and you can’t just give it up.
              Stuff your TDS up your ass; your head is asking for company.

            2. You mean like Obama has faded gracefully into the sunset? No. If Cheney wanted to silence Trump, ignoring him drops him off the political radar. She squawks about him because she has nothing else to offer. She is visible only in Trump’s reflected orange light. She was worse than useless, now reduced to uselessness.

  3. Looks like Sullum’s (and Reason’s) TDS is terminal.

    The only thing Sullum and Liz Cheney agree on is that they both disdain Trump.

    1. For those that thought that the coup ousting Trump would mean that Reason would stop talking about Trump.

      1. “the coup ousting Trump”

        lol

    2. Man, once again some projection. The only ones with TDS are truly the Republican party and their dumbass followers. All bending down to worship a narcissistic moron.

      1. Man, once again some abysmal stupidity.

    3. Only Donald Trump could piss lefties off enough that they actually make Liz Cheney their hero.

      Think about that.

  4. >>because she continues to criticize former President Donald Trump’s “big lie” about the 2020 election

    Pops was the fucking Swamp Caretaker for 40 years Liz is the last person who should have power.

    1. Except she wasn’t canceled for her politics or family name. The Republicans still support the swamp life.

      1. yes they do. one at a time dude.

  5. https://twitter.com/ConceptualJames/status/1392517519798329351?s=19

    The way these people say “the big lie” is a confession under the Iron Law of Woke Projection. [Link]

    1. The talking points are set in stone and the NPC’s have been programmed for “repeat.”

    2. The blatant propaganda sloganeering for the last couple of years has been extremely creepy, but it’s gone into overdrive in the last couple of months.

      1. After The Great Reset, overdrive is the new normal.

  6. This was to be expected.

    Leadership must lead, must bring the party together, and not cause divisions. McConnell doesn’t like Trump. But he didn’t make it his single-minded issue to continue condemning Trump for the last 3 months. And that’s what did Liz Cheney in. Rather than focus proverbial fire at the Democrats, Cheney focused fire on Trump and his supporters within the party. She focused on dividing the party, as opposed to bringing it together.

    Could Liz have said she’d prefer other Republicans to be president? Absolutely. But instead she said she’d do “everything in her power to prevent Trump from becoming President again”. What does that mean? If Trump did win the 2024 GOP nomination, as nominated in a primary election, would she actively work against him? Work to supporting the Democrat instead?

    If that’s the case, then she doesn’t belong in leadership. You can have your own opinions. But you need to work for the party. And if you absolutely can’t support part of the party, and are willing to destroy the party rather than see it win…you likely don’t need to be in leadership.

    1. Well said.

    2. I think she dropped the act once she realized that the GOP endorsing this view of the illegitimacy of elections was more dangerous to the continued existence of our republic than Joe Biden’s spending.

      So yes, she was bad at leading the GOP if you think the GOP’s mission is to satisfy the ego of an inheritor turned conman rather than preserving the constitutional republic.

      *She is also a terrible person and part of a dynasty, which I hate. Before anyone goes about saying I love anyone with the last name of Cheney.

      1. The GOP’s “Mission” is to elect Republicans into Congress and the Presidency.

        When you divide the party and focus your fire on your own party members, rather than the other party. When you say you’ll do “everything in your power” to get your own party members to lose….

        Then maybe you shouldn’t be leading the party.

        1. If the mission is to elect Republicans then the former President is a failure. He lost the House, the Presidency and then the Senate. Maybe Liz Cheney has a better idea on how to elect Republicans.

          It is worth noting that the Republican picked up seats in 2020 even though the former President lost. This suggest that there is a significant body willing to vote Republican but not for the former President.

          1. You keep comparing Cheney and Trump. But that’s not the question. The question is, is Cheney working for the PARTY?

            And she isn’t.

            1. Strange “logic”. The only way to work for the Party is to work for Trump. Trump helicoptered into the Party a few years ago to run for President and now every Republican has to support him or else they’re not Republicans? It’s no wonder I don’t belong to any Party and would never.

              1. No, the way to work for the party is to work for the party.

            2. Neither is the former President. He is working for himself.

              1. And Trump isn’t part of the GOP leadership.

                1. He may get to run for cell block president soon enough.

                  Florida’s slack-jawed Republicans are reportedly considering ways to try to avoid extradition with respect to an indictment. That ought to work about as well as ingesting bleach, trying to lock up Hillary, or deploying Trump Election Litigation: Elite Strike Force.

            3. More to the point, she’s not working for the Republic. She’s got a law degree, she knows full well that the congress has no authority to put anyone on trial who isn’t a current office holder, and she still went along with the Democrats’ show trial caper. She violated her oath of office, and she belongs behind bars with Pelosi and the rest of them for depriving Trump’s civil rights under color of authority.

              -jcr

              1. Trump was still in office when the House impeached him. The Senate could have started the trial while Trump was still in office, but McConnell chose not to. So Cheney was on solid ground when she voted to impeach him. Besides, conducting a trial for someone not in office at the time of the trial has been done before, so who says that Congress had no authority to try Trump?

          2. You make a good case why both of them shouldn’t be in leadership positions.

          3. wow, you must think Obama is a huge failure then.

            1. I did set the standard at getting your party elected, Armchair Lawyer did. I just point out that by his standard the former President is a failure.

              1. Do you think Obama is a huge failure?

                1. Worst Democrat since FDR, easily. He did more to impede the economy than anyone since FDR, even worse than Carter.

                  -jcr

                  1. Watching Republican bigots sputter nonsensically about the two-term Black guy is always great sport.

                    Carry on, clingers. So far and so long as your betters permit, that is.

                2. Let keep to the topic, which is Cheney. We can discuss President Obama when he is the topic of an article.

          4. “If the mission is to elect Republicans then the former President is a failure….”

            Pretty tough when the press hates your guts for making liars of them and TDS-addled shits like you whine 24/7.

        2. Or perhaps more of them could grow a spine and clearly call a spade a spade and serve the COUNTRY, not the party.

          What a thought.

          1. It’s a thought. You just don’t agree with them what is good for the Country. We live in a Democracy, people have different ideas about what’s good for the country.

            Remember, Trump won over 70 million votes for POTUS. Many, many people agree with Trump’s idea of what was good for the country.

            1. Biden still got more.

              There’s a lot of backwards Trump worshipping traitors in our country.

              Especially the south aka America’s rectum.

              1. Flag for the asshole!

                1. I think he’s hilarious. He also might be Boehm or Sullum.

              2. A charming gent like you will attract many to your progtarded cause.

                Pease keep posting these pearls of wisdom.

        3. The GOP’s “Mission” is to elect Republicans into Congress and the Presidency.

          As with any organization, there are short-term goals and long-term goals.

          Short-term goals often fall into the category of “whatever works best to achieve success in the short term”.

          Long-term goals often fall into the category of “whatever will sustain the organization long into the future”.

          Liz Cheney in this case was looking for the long-term interests of the party, by demanding that her colleagues abandon the Big Lie. Her colleagues however are interested in short-term power. Do whatever will appease Trump because that is how they win power in the midterms.

          Sad to see, but not unexpected.

          1. You’re championing a RINO neocon hack like Liz Cheney.

            Okay.

          2. Long term, the GOP turns into the party of the working class and small business owners more thoroughly. The way there is via the “Trump” voters.

            You have to understand who Trump picked up, and who he lost. Trump picked up the working class, en masse. Many union workers voted Trump. He did it by protecting things they thought were valuable…their jobs. Renegotiating trade deals. Reducing the supply of workers who would compete with them for wages. Keeping good jobs in energy. He lost the professional classes and big business to Democrats.

            But the working class outnumbers the professional classes. The way to a new majority is through the Trump voter.

            1. He did it by protecting things they thought were valuable…their jobs.

              Did he? What trade deals did he renegotiate successfully? What jobs were ‘protected’ from immigrants? What evidence is there that his trade policies helped American workers more than they hurt? Keeping “good jobs” in energy? Did he bring back coal like he promised? And what are the costs to human health of keeping those “good jobs” that result in continued reliance on burning things?

              It never ceases to amaze me how the side that is always claiming to be skeptical about global warming shows nothing resembling skepticism when it comes to the claims of the politicians on their side.

      2. Which illegitimate election buddy?

        Selected not Elected – 2000?
        Ohio Voting Machines hacked – 2004?
        Trump-Russia (Which you still believe) – 2016?
        The Georgia Governor Elections?

        Which one are you talking about?

        1. Trump-Russia (Which you still believe) – 2016?

          Remember, Trump said the election in 2016 was rigged while he was still campaigning. After he won and before the Mueller Inbestigation got up to speed, the Clinton campaign alleged voting fraud/the election was stolen. Trump agreed that illegal immigrants voted in disruptive numbers and that he would perform an investigation. Subsequently, ‘stolen election’ narrative pivoted (back) to Russian collusion.

          1. Subsequently, no evidence of voting by illegals was found, but a mountain of evidence pointing to Trump-Russia cooperation was found. Including a documented meeting between the president’s son, son-in-law, campaign manager, and personal attorney with several verified Russian agents who proposed the meeting with an agenda of Dirt on Hillary Clinton and Russian government help for Trump campaign. They reported none of this attempted espionage to the FBI, and in fact lied in several iterations about it, including written lies to congress. All of that is not even disputed.

            1. Blue Anon is back in town

              1. Don’t even try to refute it anymore. And yet, your support is unwavering. At this point, aren’t all of you openly supporting a traitor?

                1. What are you reading lately, the Atlantic? Seriously, you suck at facts.

                2. “Don’t even try to refute it anymore.”

                  Been done. Repeatedly.

                  At this point, Blue Anon is just worthy of mockery.

            2. Did you know that Trump colluded with a foreign citizen to influence the election, using a legal firm as a cut out? And that foreign citizen had active collaborations with Russian agents, and worked to fabricate stories to affect the election? And that Trump then deliberately released these fabricated stories, designed in part by Russian intelligence and Russian, in order to try to affect the election?

              Oh, sorry…that was all Hillary.

            3. “…but a mountain of evidence pointing to Trump-Russia cooperation was found…”

              You.
              Are.
              Full.
              Of.
              Shit.

            4. Turns out that the son, that got oppo research on his father’s opponent, from an agent of a foreign adversary, was Hunter Bai-din and his CCP-connected “assistant”, that he was assigned when he, his uncle, and “the Big Guy” were trying to make deals with the Chi-coms.
              Why no “collusion” charges, there?

      3. “So yes, she was bad at leading the GOP if you think the GOP’s mission is to ensure legitimate elections rather than ignore the constitutional rules on elections”

        FTFY

      4. It seems to me that disallowing election fraud claims is even more dangerous to the Republic. I believe that the election was on the up-and-up, but I always appreciate the fringe that claims fraud pretty much every election cycle. It gives would-be fraudsters something to think about, and puts appropriate pressure on elections officials not to get sloppy. The republic will survive a few folks wearimg not my president shirts.

    3. >>She focused on dividing the party

      refill the swamp!

    4. Trump doesn’t belong in the leadership if you believe anything you just wrote. But whatever. The Republican party is over. It’s a cult now.

      1. A “cult” which got over 80 million votes in the last election…

        1. A cult is a cult. Size is not the issue.

          1. A “cult” that is large enough ceases to be a “cult”.

            1. That is one of the dumbest things I’ve read. Kudos.

              1. Think about it…

                1. LoS, M4e, and r are not about to “think” about much of anything. By all evidence, that is not among their skill-sets.

        2. And won’t be able to repeat those Presidential vote numbers, ever again, because it is a split party.

        3. Says somebody who supports people who think war is a solid first step in foreign policy.

      2. Now do Black Jesus.

      3. Both major parties have been taken over by lunatics. The GOP’s been taken over by election protestors / Q-Anon / anti-vaxxers and the Democrats by BLM / open borders / socialists. Maybe it’s time for the Flat Earth Party and Elvis is Alive Party to launch bids – their beliefs couldn’t be much crazier than what the Republicans or Democrats believe now.

        1. Democrats had a chance to elect an actual socialist in Bernie Sanders but somehow would up with a moderate who ran against socialized medicine.

          1. I’m not sure yet what we ended up with with Biden I thought it was a moderate who pretended to be a socialist but now I’m thinking it’s a socialist who pretended to be a moderate.

            1. I think he pretends to be whatever the last person who talked to him wanted him to be.

          2. LOL. You still think Joe is a moderate. Even New Yorker had a WH official go on record who is laughing at your idiocy.

            1. Joe is a grifter. He has no ideology at all. His moral compass is a windsock. What he cares about is power and money.

              -jcr

              1. Trump is a bigger grifter.

                He has you inbred hicks hook line and sinker.

                1. ‘Nother flag for the asshole!

                  1. Why not just mute me Sevo?

                    I know you’re a senile old rummy, butt it’s right there next to flag.

                    1. Flag time!

          3. Biden isn’t an anything. Other than an empty vessel to fill with the agenda of the highest bidder. He’s a shill, not an ideologue. Same as the Clintons.

        2. Which anti-vaxxers are those?

          1. I think the perception at least is there are more anti-vax people amongst GOP activists than the general population.

            I think there’s a lot of liberal anti-vaxxers too they just don’t make the news as much.

            1. Ahh.

              I was gonna say, if it’s in regards to tried and true vaccines like polio and measles, those anti-vaxxers tend towards Team Blue. If it’s in regards towards the very new mRNA covid vaccine, those do tend toward Team Red. I wouldn’t call them anti-vaxxers though, but that’s just me.

              1. Considering that people died ingesting aquarium cleaner, there should be a more clear distinction made between anti-government-funded-experimental vaxxers and mercury-causes-autism anti-vaxxers.

                1. There really should.

            2. “…I think there’s a lot of liberal anti-vaxxers too they just don’t make the news as much…”

              Not part of the narrative.
              Want a huge pile of anti-vaxxers? Just head north of the GG bridge; that oh, so blue Marin County is full of them.

        3. Can you cite this widespread QAnon/anti-faxxer support I keep hearing about? I know BLM/Antifa control the Democrats. But you added 2 things without any actual evidence of to the other side.

        4. Yeah, both sides, whatever.

    5. If that’s the case, then she doesn’t belong in leadership. You can have your own opinions. But you need to work for the party. And if you absolutely can’t support part of the party, and are willing to destroy the party rather than see it win…you likely don’t need to be in leadership.

      Ironically, this is the same thing that happened with AOC. She got too high on her own press and decided that she was going to try and use her media clout to threaten fellow Democrats with getting primaried if they didn’t go along with her agenda. Pelosi called her in for that little photo-op meeting, and then shortly afterward, AOC’s chief of staff resigned under a cloud of campaign finance allegations. AOC has largely become a bog-standard Democrat since the mid-terms. Pelosi likely told her, “This is your only warning–stop undermining the party, or you’re going to get buried under an avalanche of shit that will destroy you. Now look at the camera and smile.”

      The lesson here is that the party apparatus isn’t going to tolerate someone acting like a sped against the party itself. All Cheney has done is get some asspats from people who will hate her guts and trash her if she ever gets within sniffing range of real power. Her family name doesn’t hold much sway within the party base anymore, so she’s basically been ostracized now.

        1. An excellent link

      1. AOC is a good example, but she’s not even in leadership. And even AOC would work to elect moderate Democrats rather than Republicans.

        Liz Cheney was in leadership, and looked like she’d rather have Democrats win than certain Republicans. And that doesn’t work. Moreover she doesn’t have the grassroots support that AOC has, and may be gone from Congress completely in 2022.

        1. AOC not a Dem party leader? What?

          According to Wingnut.com AOC is calling all the shots and Biden is just her puppet.

          1. This may surprise you, but actual party leadership roles are elected. And AOC ain’t on that list.

            1. This may surprise you, but dildo doesn’t care if his statements are accurate, just if they support his narrative.

              1. A large part of being a progressive is that they are prepared to spout two completely contrary ideas simultaneously.

            2. Dunno how long you’ve been here, but turd’s ability to separate his fantasies from reality are limited in the extreme.
              Even when he gets his face rubbed in the actual reality, he’ll be back tomorrow, repeating the same lies, I guess hoping that repetition will cause a change.
              Or just being an abysmal idiot.

          2. Are all of your arguments based on what Democrats thinks Republicans think?

            1. Yes.

            2. Basically. Basically.

          3. Citation needed

          4. So AOC’s the only democrat who’s ass you wont lick? Good to know.

            1. Funny, she’s the only Democrat whose ass a close friend of mine would lick. She deserves some preparation.

      2. Then why should the GOP tolerate Trump sabotaging 2 GA Senate elections? The GOP would have won both GA Senate seats easily if Trump had congratulated Biden and STFU before the GA senate elections.

        1. “Then why should the GOP tolerate Trump ”

          Trump isn’t part of the GOP leadership. Cheney is. They can’t evict Trump from party leadership, because he’s not formally part of it. They can evict Cheney.

        2. The GOP would have won both GA Senate seats easily if Trump had congratulated Biden and STFU before the GA senate elections.

          We have no way of knowing that. Yes, it probably played a role, but the Dems were also making wild promises about free money that the meanie Republicans would prevent if they won the seats.

          1. And the abysmal election rules did not change before those GA Senate elections.

            Just sayin’.

        3. “Then why should the GOP tolerate Trump sabotaging 2 GA Senate elections?…”

          Why should any listen to claims about Trump from TDS-addled shits like you?

        4. So, if Trump had congratulated Zhou Bai-din, the LieCheatSteal party would have switched off the fraud machine for the two Georgia senate races?
          Hey, I’ve got this bridge in San Francisco, I’d like to sell you.

      3. AOC’s chief of staff resigned under a cloud of campaign finance allegations.

        That was the dude who was a fan of the Indian Nazi collaborator, right?

        -jcr

        1. I don’t know about that, but I do know that he got a spotlight put on him all of a sudden when Pelosi brought in AOC for her little talking-to.

          1. They’re both grade A cunts, however, there’s a reason Pelosi managed to become Speaker. It isn’t because she lets upstarts like AOC push her around.

            I do hope AOC pushes back hard, and they end up destroying each other.

    6. Well put. Trump isn’t going to be the Republican nominee in 2024 and the only thing slowing down his inevitable fade into obscurity (like past losing candidates) is that the media is doing everything they can to continue focusing on him both for ratings and because they hope his negatives will hurt Republicans. Cheney wasn’t “fighting Trump” – she was enabling him and worse still, she was a “useful idiot” for the other side. That’s why she needed to go.

      1. Cheney wasn’t “fighting Trump” – she was enabling him and worse still, she was a “useful idiot” for the other side. That’s why she needed to go.

        There’s nothing more that Cocaine Mitch wants than to move the party on from Trump and focus on the mid-terms. The GOP base might like him still, but ultimately it won’t matter if they don’t think he can win the big prize in 2024.

        Granted, if Biden fucks up enough, all the electoral reindeer games and media simping for Democrats might not be enough to make a difference if Trump did manage to get the nomination again. But I think it’s a lot more likely they go with Cruz, DeSantis, or Rand Paul than Trump.

        1. I think it’s more likely the GOP goes with someone non-Trump, but with populist appeal.

          DeSantis is a good option, as is Tim Scott.

          1. DeSantis/Tim Scott would be a great ticket.

        2. Mitch wants the party to make strong gains in 2022 to be weak enough to not repeal whatever the dems pass this term.

      2. Trump isn’t going to be the Republican nominee in 2024

        I wouldn’t bet on that. I remember everyone saying he wouldn’t be the nominee in 2016.

        -jcr

    7. You mean like Obama has faded gracefully into the sunset? No. If Cheney wanted to silence Trump, ignoring him drops him off the political radar. She squawks about him because she has nothing else to offer. She is visible only in Trump’s reflected orange light. She was worse than useless, now reduced to uselessness.

  7. >Trump responded predictably to Cheney’s ouster, describing her as “a poor leader, a major Democrat talking point, a warmonger, and a person with absolutely no personality or heart.” He also called her “a bitter, horrible human being.”

    When he’s right, he’s right.

    1. Making up for yesterday’s defenses huh? LOL. Too late there buddy.

      1. Making it crystal clear for the ‘tarded among us.

  8. Look, just because you agree with her about Trump doesn’t make her a good leader. She was prioritizing her hatred of Trump over the interests of the Republican party. Not Trump’s interests, over the interests of the party itself.

    For instance, sharing proprietary internal data with hostile media outlets. Once she had been caught doing that, whatever the cause, how could they possibly trust her going forward? It’s clear that her primary interest at this point isn’t the party’s success, it’s purging the party of all influence from a President most of the party’s voters approve of. A man who’s old enough he’s going to disappear soon anyway!

    Essentially she was proposing to hold the party hostage if it didn’t do her will. You can talk about loyalty oaths, but the truth is, she’s the one who was demanding them.

    1. Or she was trying to get the Republican Party to move on and find new leaders. The former President lost in 2020, he not going to get more votes in 2024. The Republican need more than grievance to run on in the future.

      1. How does teaming up with Democrat propagandists get the party to move forward?

        1. Not nothing. Progress!

      2. Best way to “move on” is to focus on the failings of the Biden administration, of which there have been many (border crisis, inflation spike, messy ME policy, job losses, etc.). She spent zero time talking about uniting GOP policy in opposition to the Biden admin’s failures and all of her time on a personal vendetta against Trump. You don’t lead by focusing on your beef with the CEO while refusing to do your job.

        1. Sorry, false flag, clumsy fingers, your comment is spot on.

      3. Cheney want’s the republicans to move on by going back to nominating people named Bush and Cheney. Froward!

      4. “Or she was trying to get the Republican Party to move on and find new leaders…”

        You need a bigger fig leaf, TDS-addled shit.

      5. Well ring on the Liz Cheney o,at form of cronyism, foreign wars, it spending and capitulation is definitely no way to success. Or at least any success an American would ever want.

  9. Can we start the war now, Daddy, please?

  10. she holds office as a representative of people who voted overwhelmingly for Trump. She is doing the opposite of what the people she represents want, that’s not how representation works.

    1. She doesn’t represent the people who voted for her. She doesn’t represent Republicans, she doesn’t represent the majority, she doesn’t represent the winner, SHE REPRESENTS ALL PEOPLE IN HER DISTRICT. That’s what a Representative is supposed to do. That’s how representation is supposed to work. It’s not a team sport.

      1. Clown post….

      2. She is the only representative for the people of Wyoming, which voted over 70% in favor of Trump. She can take the minority of her constituency into account, but she is obliged to represent the majority. Otherwise, by your argument, even if everyone is against something, so long as 1 person in her district supports it she can justify her actions of support.

        1. Most people in Wyoming are pretty fucking backwards…

          1. One more flag for an asshole!

            1. Let him run his mouth. He’s so vile, toxic, and bigoted that he has the capacity to really alienate people from the left.

              Plus he’s such a buffoon that it’s hilarious. He’s so fucking stupid.

          2. backwards or not, they deserve representation that follows their interests. Unless you are of the opinion that people should just do what they are told by their less “backward” rulers.

          3. Sometimes they are forwards, but there’s always the fucking wind.

            1. Good one Dee!

  11. I don’t know why, but – would.

    1. 20 years ago, agreed. Today, I know a half a dozen women who could pass for her and another half-dozen who would if you put the angular glasses on them. None come with the same baggage.

  12. Cheney has followed the STATED PRINCIPLES of the Republican Party to the letter, as demonstrated by her top conservative ratings. One would be hard pressed to find another congressman more conservative. Yet she is now persona non grata in the party for her refusal to endorse the encouragement of lawbreaking. She’s in trouble to for fawning over an ex president.

    The GOP doesn’t demand fealty to Bush II, nor to Bush I, nor to Ford, nor to Nixon. Holy shit, they don’t even demand fealty to Saint Ronaldus Maximus! But not being on board the Trump wagon is now the unforgivable sin. Disgusting.

    This more than anything, makes explicit that the Republican Party is about loyalties to the bad actors and not ideology or principles. Their motto: “Fuck principles and wear your MAGA hat!”

    I’m NOT a fan of Cheney, but I do have to applaud her for sticking up to her stated principles and not tossing them under the bus in the name of imagined votes. Fuck McCarthy. I actually know McCarthy in real life, and he’s been slimeball for as long as I’ve known him. Fuck McCarthy.

    1. Principles shminciples.

      It’s about loyalty to a man.

      1. Man, just going all in on today on pushing lefty narratives. First you post the NY Times letter of a whopping 100 GOP people for Cheney, now you rush in to defend Cheney as principled.

    2. lol you on (R) is entertaining.

    3. This is how you spot a useful idiot.

    4. Bullshit. She violated her oath.

      -jcr

      1. What oath? How did she violate it?

        If anything those supporting Trump’s treason are traitors.

        1. Asshole’s getting a lot of them!

        2. No, supporting Trump is patriotism. Supporting progressives is treason.

    5. Her only principle is endless war in the Mideast. Her objections to Trump didn’t start on January 6, they started when he wanted to bring troops home.

  13. EL TRUMPO DEMAND LOYALTY!

    It wasn’t too long ago that GOP voters turned on their losers (Bush 1, McCain, Romney) as unfit RINOs who didn’t deserve to be in St Ronnie’s Party anyway. Why is the loser Trump any different?

    1. Cause Trump actually did what his voters wanted, while those others talked a game and did nothing. It’s weird how people show greater loyalty to those who have earned their trust than to guys who constantly betray it. Big mystery there.

      1. If “what the voters wanted ” was “talk smack”, then yes Trump was very successful.

        1. Yes, that’s all he did, Lying Jeffy.

        2. This isn’t a debate of whether Trump was “successful”. This is about how his party views him and their belief that he got what they wanted done. Smack talk was a known quantity from the start. People were not turned off by the smack talk, given Trump gained at minimum 12 million votes from 2016 to 2020. You can like or dislike what he had to offer, but the point was Republicans felt he was doing what they’ve been wanting from a president for years, such that he garnered more votes than any GOP candidate in history. The Bushes, McCains and Romneys of the party have not fared quite so favorably and among the chief criticism of them all was that they failed to deliver on their promises and failed to look like the staunch conservative candidates they wanted.

        3. Another example of why you’re not worthy of respect or civility.

  14. Burn the witch! Oh yeah baby, bringing back the auto da fe! Now that’s conservative!

    1. It is conservative to get force a non conservative out of the party leadership.

  15. Most of the RINO clowns are leaving the GOP and good riddance. For decades they’ve done just about everything to stymie all debate, cuddled up to every democrat in the name of bipartisanship, went on every Sunday talk show to get the media slavering over them, and basically never accomplished the party platform of limited government, balanced budgets, conservative leadership, etc.

    1. Bipartisanship? The same bipartisanship that “we’re determined to make Obama a one-term president”? Who stopped every single piece of legislation they could?

      That one?

      Good god, you guys are deluded beyond belief. The fact you are calling for an ouster of members OF YOUR OWN PARTY is just indicative of how much of a cult you’ve fallen into.

      1. If ousting members of one’s own party is so appalling to you, you must really hate AOC and the Squad for primarying moderate Dem candidates. Either that or you only care about infighting when its inside one party and ignore it otherwise. Infighting happens. It’s not a new concept. People are allowed to express dissatisfaction within their own ranks if they feel leaders are doing a bad job. Your feigned exasperation is silly.

      2. “The same bipartisanship that “we’re determined to make Obama a one-term president”?”

        Seriously, I’ve never understood that complaint, it’s inexplicable.

        Obama’s a Democrat. What’s the alternative to Republicans trying to make him a one term President? Deliberately taking a dive in the next Presidential election? OF COURSE they wanted him to be a one term President, just exactly as Democrats intended for Trump to only get one term.

        “Who stopped every single piece of legislation they could?”

        News flash: Democrats and Republicans disagree about what should be enacted! How many pieces of legislation did Democrats sign onto in the first couple years of the Trump administration? Was it zip, or nada, I forget…

        1. Brett, there was a time when Republicans didn’t just reflexively oppose everything a Democrat proposed, and vice-versa.

          1. There is very little in the Democrat’s agenda to support. Should I support………

            1. A $2 trillion emergency COVID spending plan that has less than $200 billion for COVID relief, with the rest going to pork, payback to contributors, and a democrat slush fund.

            2. Reentry in the Paris Agreement with no senate treaty vote. Which does nothing to address the whole carbon nonsense drama anyway but gives cripples our economy and gives away trillions to foreign countries?

            3. Tax hikes!

            4. Crippling and punitive new regulations on business.

            5. Federalization of election laws that lock in the shit policies from 2020.

            6. Border chaos and an influx of illegals with no controls during this ‘pandemic’. Including kids in shipping containers.

            I can do this all night. I’m sure they have a few minor things they want to do that aren’t horrible. But nearly everything they plan to do is just horrible.

          2. Has it occurred to you that if a proposal has the support of both Democrats AND Republicans, it just quietly passes, and you never hear about it? You’re only going to hear about the measures the parties disagree about.

            Also, for large classes of legislation, they only need to be enacted once, which implies that a lot of the stuff the parties agree on, (Murder should be illegal!) is already enacted, with no need to revisit it. All that’s left are items we don’t agree about.

            If all bills sunsetted, you’d see something like 95% bipartisanship, as they had to keep reenacting all the background stuff that’s agreed to.

            1. That’s all far beyond Jeffy.

        2. Well put. I’m sorry you had to explain the obvious.

        3. “Obama’s a Democrat. What’s the alternative to Republicans trying to make him a one term President? Deliberately taking a dive in the next Presidential election? OF COURSE they wanted him to be a one term President, just exactly as Democrats intended for Trump to only get one term.”

          Whether or not Republicans or Democrats were worse at this between opposing Obama or Trump, respectively, the point is to compete for the votes of the majority of the electorate by presenting a better alternative. Opposition should not be about trying to sabotage what the winner of the last election is trying to do so that they don’t get any ‘wins’ to use as advertisements for themselves in the next election.

          It could be arguable that Democrats did this or tried to against Trump, or Bush 43 before him, but there is no doubt that Republicans made this their mission against Obama. That is clearly what Mitch was talking about, not that he was just opposing the policies Obama wanted on principle or trying to get policies that the GOP would prefer instead.

          We elect legislators and executives to do the job of governing, not to position themselves for the next election. This is the problem with the ‘permanent campaign’ that we have in American politics right now.

  16. sullum’s a chameleon

  17. https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1392545434485198851?s=19

    The Midwest cell of the Youth Liberation Front, an #antifa group responsible for organizing mass violence in Portland through Twitter, is threatening to bomb Israeli embassies [pic]

    1. So once these guys actually go out in their jackboots and masks and start firebombing Israeli embassies, can we start dropping the “anti” from their name?

      1. That’s not how newspeak works.

        1. Antise(mitism)?

      2. People misspell it. It’s actually “Antefa”, “before fascism”.

        1. Bravo!

      3. I always knew it was a matter of time before they tried to exterminate the Jews. Leftists have always been committed to a Jewish Holocaust.

    2. On Twitter no less! Beauteous!

    3. No matter how many times you post bs from Dsouza, Okeefe, or Ngo it doesn’t change the fact they’re proven liars.

      Facts don’t matter to you Trump fellators.

      1. Wow, I actually found somebody I’m willing to mute!

        1. No, no, he’s adorable. In fact I’m thinking of showcasing his comments to left leaning people I know. To scare the, straight.

      2. “They’re proven liars”

        Really? What lies? And proven by whom exactly?

        Or maybe you’re just spouting bullshit.

        1. <em<[crickets]

  18. The spawn of Cheney giving lectures on ethics? Go figure

    1. And democrats white knighting Liz Cheney. Only Trump could make them that angry.

  19. Sullum needs serious fucking help. I didn’t even bother to read the article because everything he writes is complete garbage, not just for the garbage takes, but also because it’s not even well written or well argied. It’s just an old man shouting at the clouds.

    No one is even talking about Trump for 2024. Everyone- except Liz Cheney- is focusing on 2022, as they should be. Cheney needs to be focused on finding and running candidates that can take back house seats and block the Biden shit sandwich agenda. Instead, she’s crying about yucky mean Trump. Liz Cheney just wants to return the party to its rightful owners- the neocon warmongers. That’s all she’s concerned about. The voters rejected the neocons when they rejected Jeb Bush in 2016, and they’re not going to change their minds. That’s why she got fired, and that’s why she’s probably going to get primaried and lose her seat in 2022. She and what she represents is over.

    The “Big Lie” is propaganda, and Sullum is a fucking retard for falling for it. You’d expect a writer at libertarian publication to be smarter than that. The Big Lie propaganda makes any election integrity questions into statements about mean, yucky Trump. It allows the democrats to avoid answering any questions about their “fortified election.” Dem activist groups spent boatloads of money on influence operations and interference, more than RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA could ever have dreamed of, and no one has even asked any questions about it. They admitted in a national news magazine to tampering with the election to ensure “the right” outcome, and no one will ever be asked about it, and it will never be examined in any serious way. So fuck directly off with your Big Lie, Sullum. The Big Lie is that this election was free and fair. Maybe nobody stole votes, but some seriously shady shit was done that has caused millions of people to question the integrity of the electoral process.

    Sullum, and anyone who listens to his nonsense, is being manipulated and is too stupid to figure it out.

    1. Old man shouting at clouds- look in the mirror buddy.

      1. He makes good points and his analysis is grounded in reality. You’re just a blind partisan hack that has no vision beyond whatever pablum your prog masters puke down your throat.

        It’s all you are and all you are capable of being. In my weaker moments, I almost pity you.

      2. Every day you are a reminder of just how stupid people can be.

    2. Well put. Her job is to promote conservative agenda and oppose liberal/progressive agenda. That’s her entire job. You can agree or disagree with conservative politics but that’s the entirety of the job. Instead she has spent all of her time ignoring some truly appalling legislation and leadership fuckups by Biden to instead complain about the one guy most liked and most trusted by her party to promote the agenda she herself is tasked with promoting.

      She knows the GOP has moved away from neocon wars. The voters were hugely in favor of leaving Afghanistan and Iraq under Trump and Trump promoted that idea. She couldn’t stand that, because that goes against her family legacy, regardless of what the party actually wants.

      Sullum’s hatred of Trump has led him to worship anyone who criticizes him, even if that someone is a person whose beef with Trump began long before Jan 6 and has almost everything to do with that foreign policy rift. That’s where the relationship hit the rocks. She’s just using Jan 6 as a way to not have to talk about the fact that she represents the loser wing of a party that is sick and tired of the endless wars her family got the country into.

    3. Millions of people believe the 2020 election was “stolen” because Trump threw a gigantic amount of sand in the air to manufacture doubt based on spurious claims, and his followers will believe him over whatever any media outlet says, including Fox News. That is why. Because they are more loyal to him over the truth.

      1. and his followers will believe him over whatever any media outlet says, including Fox News. That is why. Because they are more loyal to him over the truth.

        Yeah, if it’s institutions that have covered themselves in glory on the trust-building front, it’s the media over the last five years.

        1. So the reason why so many people believe the election was ‘stolen’ was because Trump said so, not based on objective facts. Trump actively undermines the entire democratic system with his lies.

          1. So the reason why so many people believe the election was ‘stolen’ was because Trump said so, not based on objective facts.

            Thanks for conceding the point.

            Trump actively undermines the entire democratic system with his lies.

            chemtard is shocked–SHOCKED, I tell you!–that a politician is a liar.

          2. But claims that 2016 was stolen by Russia had zero negative impact on the democratic system.

            Good to know.

          3. The reason so many believe the election was stolen was because state election officials changed election rules by executive fiat rather than the proper legislative process. That is an objective fact. The entire democratic process is undermined by the lack of transparency around these changes and the lack of full adjudication of these complaints, not whether or not you think Trump lied.

      2. The constitution states that it is the state legislatures that set the rules for elections, yet there were several critical states where the election rules were changed without the act of the state legislature. Those rule changes often broke the chain of custody for ballots and eliminated measures to verify their validity. These are objective facts. When this issue was brought before SCOTUS, the court refused to consider that issue on its merits and simply declined to take the case. That alone is legitimate enough cause to question the integrity of the elections. Again, these are verifiable facts. No lie here.

        Now there’s the audit in Arizona where the largest county in the state, which played the determinative outcome in the election result, has refused duly predicated subpoenas for election materials including ballot adjudication records. Again. A fact not in dispute.

        Trump didn’t “manufacture” this doubt. The doubt exists and it has gone unanswered. It’s not about what the other outlets said or didn’t say. The other outlets didn’t even bother to address the issues on their merits. They just saw that the courts declined to take cases and reported “x judge rejects x election fraud claims made by Trump” without any mention of the fact that many of these cases were dismissed on procedural grounds rather than the merits of the complaint (i.e. whether fraud did or did not occur).

    4. No one is even talking about Trump for 2024.

      “I am looking at it very seriously, beyond seriously,” Trump told Sean Hannity on the Fox News Channel. At the end of the hourlong interview, Hannity told Trump: “It sounds like you’re running. It sounds like you haven’t lost any engagement.”

      Yeah, no one.

  20. Looks like the Republicans are swapping one supporter of gigantic government for another supporter of gigantic government.

    1. Your name isn’t just a clever moniker, it’s what most people do seconds after reading your dribbles….

  21. GOP = cult. You can’t say it isn’t. They demand fealty and obedience to everything at every single step and are dedicated to their one true idiot god- Trump.

    What an absolutely pathetic display and the fact that there are this many morons on this “libertarian” site cheering it on just shows how pathetic our society is nowadays (and probably the state of public education or lack thereof.)

    1. “GOP = cult. You can’t say it isn’t…”

      Yes I can, and getting bullshit like that from TDS-addles piles of lefty shit like you make it far more likely than the alternative.

    2. just shows how pathetic our society is nowadays (and probably the state of public education or lack thereof.)

      Fucking LOL statement, considering your side has dominated that particular cathedral pillar for the last generation or two.

      1. Yeah. It’s like the complaint of “systemic racism”. Who the fuck do they think owns the runs it?

    3. You’re making me reconsider my policy of never muting anyone other than spam bots.

  22. Sullum roots for the implosion of the GOP over Trump’s election claims, but seems undisturbed by the ENTIRETY of the democrat party and the establishment (tech, banks, Hollywood, WS) selling their soul to BLM, who pushes for a society without police and reeducation center to purge racism from our heads.

    The FBI lied to remove a duly elected president. If THIS context is ignored in discussions like this, then it’s a disingenuous one. If this happened to president Ron Paul and he made election fraud claims (a known conspiracy theorist himself) you would dwell on that and ignore the coup attempt?

    The GOP and their voters aren’t loyal to Trump because he’s some Svengali who created a cult. For 4 years they saw nonstop, concentrated effort from the opposition to harass them, falsely label them as racist (Smollett and Convington occurred only 2 years ago) dox them, and even physically assault them. Anything even remotely connected to Trump was considered to be the next Hitler. They stick up for Trump because they’re essentially sticking up for themselves. I guarantee you most republicans don’t actually enjoy his twitter storms and manic personality.

    If you call out your teammates or their fans in a public way outside of the locker room, you have no future in the team. The GOP mostly kept to the unwritten rule during the controversial Bush admin. Any number of current Trump voters defended Dick Cheney against death wishes and vile attacks. The puritan wing of the party now demanding strict morality on Trump will ring false to voters. Liz Cheney did more than just criticize Trump’s fraud claims, she amplified the left’s TDS on their behalf.

    Rand Paul was in friendly terms with president while disagreeing with him on policy, and Massie was restrained in his response when Trump picked on him. Rand never called out hawkish republicans while useless Mccain trashed him on the senate floor. These people have a future in the party because they remain loyal to principles as well as the voters who tend to personalize their connection with the president.

    If you just walk away from coalition every time it fails ideological purity test, the other side will win. Of course this is why libertarians rarely win any political office. I’m not white and I wasn’t disturbed by 99% of “racist” things Trump said. I guarantee you many Mexicans didn’t. Because there is a larger cultural battle at hand and Trump heeded the call many calls. The center right TDS crowd will always miss the forest for the trees.

    1. If you call out your teammates or their fans in a public way outside of the locker room, you have no future in the team. The GOP mostly kept to the unwritten rule during the controversial Bush admin

      This rule may be unwritten, but it was clearly spoken in 1966 by Ronald Reagan. Reagan attributed what became the “11th Commandment” to the California state GOP Chair, Gaylord Parkinson.

      The personal attacks against me during the primary finally became so heavy that the state Republican chairman, Gaylord Parkinson, postulated what he called the Eleventh Commandment: Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican. It’s a rule I followed during that campaign and have ever since.

      Of course, after losing the first few state primaries to Gerald Ford in 1976, he started criticizing Ford more heavily and started winning (though not by enough to win the nomination over the incumbent Ford). Of course, by doing so, he may have weakened Ford enough for Jimmy Carter to defeat Ford in the general election. That is always the danger of intra-party attacks, whether during primaries or otherwise.

      And as for the 11th Commandment, Trump certainly never followed it. During the primary, he relentlessly attacked all of his opponents, and often in incredibly childish and personal ways. He and Ted Cruz had a shaky truce for a while, but that only lasted so long as there was room for both of them to build support. By the time the voting began, he was floating conspiracy theories about Cruz’s father being involved in the JFK assassination and insulting Cruz’s wife on Twitter, threatening to “spill the beans” on her, whatever that was supposed to mean (and he included an image of Heidi Cruz from someone else’s tweet insulting her looks, naturally).

      For Trump, being on a team always meant supporting him unquestioningly. The concepts of actual teamwork and leadership are beyond him.

      1. Odd, Romney was extremely vicious to his GOP rivals in 2012. That seems to be ignored.

        1. “Odd, Romney was extremely vicious to his GOP rivals in 2012.”

          Oh? Did he call them names the way Trump did? (Lyin’ Ted, Little Marco, Low Energy Jeb! Bush) Did he insult their looks? (Carly Fiorina – “Look at that face! Would anyone vote for that?” “Can you imagine that, the face of our next president.”)

          I look forward to you bringing to my attention even one thing Romney said in 2012 that would compare to the dozens of childish and deeply personal insults Trump made against his primary opponents in 2016 or other Republican politicians since.

  23. The big lesson from all of this is that people that talk about Republican politicians acting out of fear of Trump are wrong. That some will go along in order to avoid being challenged in a primary is not wrong, but the real problem with the current GOP is that they embrace Trump because they like what he does for them. Namely, Trump energizes the most revanchist segments of the party’s base. Trump’s appeal was never about conservative or libertarian ideology, and even the populist economic nationalism and nativist immigration was not as much a driver of his popularity with the white working class as were the culture war grievances over “political correctness” (which is now called “cancel culture”) and just “owning the libs” in general.

    Enough Republican politicians have learned that these tactics that Trump uses out of instinct and just his basic narcissism are working at channeling the GOP base in a direction that they can use to get what they really want – to gain and keep power without having to appeal to an actual majority of the voters.

    1. Trump’s appeal was never about conservative or libertarian ideology, and even the populist economic nationalism and nativist immigration was not as much a driver of his popularity with the white working class as were the culture war grievances over “political correctness” (which is now called “cancel culture”) and just “owning the libs” in general.

      Yeah, it’s kind of funny how a guy who increased his voter share of minorities over what he got in 2016 lost primarily because college-educated white people are desperately trying to show how Not Racist and Very Smart they are due to sheer peer pressure from their more left-wing colleagues.

      1. “Yeah, it’s kind of funny how a guy who increased his voter share of minorities over what he got in 2016 lost primarily because college-educated white people are desperately trying to show how Not Racist and Very Smart they are due to sheer peer pressure from their more left-wing colleagues.”

        That could explain why Trump lost, or it could be that the college-educated white people that voted against Trump were just that appalled with his dishonesty, incompetence, and lack of compassion for anyone that isn’t him. And, oh, he increased his share of the minority vote over 2016? It went from pathetic to merely dismal?

        1. That could explain why Trump lost, or it could be that the college-educated white people that voted against Trump were just that appalled with his dishonesty, incompetence, and lack of compassion for anyone that isn’t him.

          Nah, it’s just peer pressure.

          And, oh, he increased his share of the minority vote over 2016? It went from pathetic to merely dismal?

          Thanks for conceding the point.

          1. “Thanks for conceding the point.”

            Hmm, I concede the facts – Trump went from 20% of the non-white vote in 2016 to 25% in 2020 (according to one exit poll I found). What exactly is your point about that? That Trump can’t be as racist as people on the left claim because he managed to go from a fifth of the non-white vote to a fourth?

            “Nah, it’s just peer pressure.”

            If you say so. I guess you aren’t interested in arguing that point, just in asserting that you are correct.

            1. “That Trump can’t be as racist as people on the left claim because he managed to go from a fifth of the non-white vote to a fourth?”

              Why, yes, exactly: If Trump were as racist as the left continually claim, he would have lost ground with minorities, not gained ground.

              He gained ground because they could see that he wasn’t racist.

              1. Why, yes, exactly: If Trump were as racist as the left continually claim, he would have lost ground with minorities, not gained ground.

                He gained ground because they could see that he wasn’t racist.

                That’s what you want to believe, sure. Besides, Trump doesn’t have to be as racist as the left claims to be racist. Talking about “shithole countries” in Africa as opposed to wanting immigrants from Norway had nothing to do with race, in your view, I take it? Or saying that the “Squad” should go and fix the problems in the countries “from which they came”? (Never mind that only one was born outside the U.S.) I could go on for hours.

                You are using poll results to dispute that Trump has any racist views, but you aren’t doing anything to defend the dozens of things he’s said and done since he ran for President, let alone over his whole life, that demonstrate racist views and sympathies.

            2. Hmm, I concede the facts – Trump went from 20% of the non-white vote in 2016 to 25% in 2020 (according to one exit poll I found). What exactly is your point about that?

              That I was right that he increased his share of the minority vote. Again, thanks for conceding that.

              That Trump can’t be as racist as people on the left claim because he managed to go from a fifth of the non-white vote to a fourth?

              Nothing people on the left say can be taken at face value.

              If you say so. I guess you aren’t interested in arguing that point, just in asserting that you are correct.

              After indulging in your own bout of question-begging, you’re hardly one to complain.

            3. That sound you hear are the tornado force winds blowing above your head as the point made breezes by you.

  24. “…Namely, Trump energizes the most revanchist segments of the party’s base. Trump’s appeal was never about conservative or libertarian ideology, and even the populist economic nationalism and nativist immigration was not as much a driver of his popularity with the white working class as were the culture war grievances over “political correctness” (which is now called “cancel culture”) and just “owning the libs” in general…”

    Yeah, cheering for peace in the Near East and getting two conservative SCOTUS justices and that tax cut, and….
    What were you saying?

  25. A lion kills a snake…both might be a threat to u but you just got ride of 50% of your problem. In the long run Trump was a shooting star..he isn’t coming back. Getting rid of this neocon threat to liberty is a good deal. Hell getting her out of Congress would be better…the entire Bush team never should be allowed to lead the GOP…..they sent it down the toilet and turned VA blue…total losers and morons

  26. Cheney is a grifter just like the Never Trumpers at the Lincoln Project and John McCain. Goodbye and good riddance.

    1. Funny how it’s the NeverTrumpers accused of being grifters. They are the ones who had their careers upended by the rise of Orange Cheeto. The actual grifters are the ones who conveniently changed their beliefs to match the mood of the moment, like Tucker Carlson. He used to be an economic libertarian at least but he completely sold out in order to have a TV show praising Trump and spouting his protectionist bullshit. They are the real grifters.

      1. “TRUMPRZ R DA REEL GRIFTURZ”

      2. Lying Jeffy is now defending the Lincoln Party. He doesn’t understand how awesome that is.

        1. Lincoln Project.

  27. No, the point is she keeps going on and on about Trump, which doesn’t help anyone but CNN and journalists who want someone to trash talk Trump.

  28. Jacob Sullum please name all the Biden policies which are better than the Trump polices. I am expecting quite a list from you! (sarc)

  29. Quote from a real libertarian news source, not a faux Reason one.

    “The party platform was determined by the base vote priority. The base of the party chose the MAGA “America First” set of priorities for domestic economic issues, trade and foreign relations through economic security. Cheney actively worked against that platform… which begs the question: why was she ever in leadership in the first place?”
    I am getting the feeling Jacob hates American too.

  30. Arizona GOP Chairwoman Kelli Ward Provides an Update on the Maricopa Ballot Audit
    May 12, 2021 | Sundance | 96 Comments

    Arizona GOP Chairwoman, Kelli Ward, provides an update on the status of the Maricopa ballot audit that is ongoing. As noted by Mrs. Ward, there is a Lawfare battle taking place in/around the politics and judicial branch. There is also a narrative war ongoing with spin, lies and disinformation from the Democrats who oppose the county ballot audit.

    “What the mainstream media isn’t telling you… Legal action imminent. Audit side benefit: questions of election office irregularities, breach of Voter ID information AZGOP Chairwoman Kelli Ward reports“:

    A year ago we were told that the virus being leaked from a Wuhan lab was a fantasy too. How wrong the experts were. No Reason is telling us the election fraud is a fantasy, but it is coming out there was cheating, in Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. Yet ever audit is being fought tooth and nail by the Democrats. Why? This is the Democrats to prove the fantasy. Their chance to prove their detractors wrong. Their chance to prove they are an honest and ethical party. Yet they fight every effort to exonerate themselves, and that is certainly being counter productive.

  31. Arizona GOP Chairwoman Kelli Ward Provides an Update on the Maricopa Ballot Audit
    May 12, 2021 | Sundance | 96 Comments

    Arizona GOP Chairwoman, Kelli Ward, provides an update on the status of the Maricopa ballot audit that is ongoing. As noted by Mrs. Ward, there is a Lawfare battle taking place in/around the politics and judicial branch. There is also a narrative war ongoing with spin, lies and disinformation from the Democrats who oppose the county ballot audit.

    “What the mainstream media isn’t telling you… Legal action imminent. Audit side benefit: questions of election office irregularities, breach of Voter ID information AZGOP Chairwoman Kelli Ward reports“:

    A year ago we were told that the virus being leaked from a Wuhan lab was a fantasy too. How wrong the experts were. Now Reason is telling us the election fraud is a fantasy too, but it is coming out there was cheating, in Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. Yet every audit is being fought tooth and nail by the Democrats. Why? This is the Democrats opportunity to prove the fantasy. Their chance to prove their detractors wrong. Their chance to prove they are an honest and ethical party. Yet they fight every effort to exonerate themselves, and that is certainly being counter productive.

  32. So many memoryholes and so little time.

    In case you forgot the mass retirement purges, part of the Trump revolution has been kicking out neocon RINOs and replacing them with populists who prioritize citizens first and don’t pretend to be holier than thou. The idea that this should be shocking, new, unprecedented, or relating to anything other than policy is laughable. Cheney wasn’t ousted because of her opinion on voter fruad. She is just one of the last few holdouts from a long campaign to rid the party of people like her. Romney is the stubborn one who will probably have to be voted out of office.

  33. Republicans are in need of new leadership anyways. The modern conservative movement has some hold on the Republican Party which reaches millennials and beyond, who are about to become the party base. Opting for wars we have no interest in and supporting establishment politicians is quickly becoming unpopular and new voices are rising up outside of the mainstream (Ben Shapiro, Dave Rubin, Joe Rogan, Tim Pool, and more) which are guiding the modern conservatives and informing young Republicans with an emphasis on what’s real, what’s valuable, what’s possible versus relying on magic tricks that keep a group’s attention while politicking happens behind closed doors.

    Donald Trump was a symptom of American unrest. You don’t have to be his supporter to understand why he was elected and what kind of problems with politicians people had that provoked a radical change in leadership. The right is a bit hectic and without a true north on their compass for the moment. The left are all over the place with conflicting values and focus. It’s a terrible time for American politics as we’ve been shown an enormous amount of incompetency based on the COVID pandemic and how poorly we build rules without concrete data to back them. Cheney is another person that might have had a charge behind her but was ultimately not a strong leader. She and many others aren’t representative of what the Republican Party is becoming – America first, everyone else second and not enabling toxic behavior by growing government intervention. The party still has a ways to go but for now they’re heading in the right direction. Mitch McConnell and a few other probably need to go as well, but it can’t be a Democrat that replaces them – the power shift would be destructive to the USA. We weren’t meant to be full tilt on partisan grounds.

  34. Hillsdale College offers several very informative online courses on the Constitution of the United States, its Founding Principles & etc – all for free. (So cheap even the spawn of the Liberal Elite should be able to afford to access them.) Too bad so many still seem to miss the point; everyone is “Presumed Innocent Until Proven Guilty”. Period. Everyone who says trump is “Lying”, or is “Deranged About … “, “Lies, is Lying” and/or calls allegations about the integrity of the 2020 presidential election a “Lie” are basing their accusations on what – exactly? “It’s been thrown out of 50 courts … ” and so forth say they. O.k., for what? Exactly. Certainly not based on evidence presented in an open court or evidentiary hearing. Not one case has ever been heard in a trial held in an open court – nor any court, for that matter – period! Therefore there is no proof of Cheney’s allegations, or any one else’s, as to the truth or falsehood of what President Trump says he believes.

  35. https://greenwald.substack.com/p/liz-cheney-lied-about-her-role-in

    For those interested in an actually libertarian read on Liz Cheney

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