CNN Says 10 Percent of Vaccinated Air Travelers May Catch COVID. That's Completely Wrong.
Plus: Tyler Cowen on libertarianism now, inflation fears, and more...

Are airplanes more dangerous now than they were during the height of the COVID-19 pandemic? No, of course not. Yet that's what CNN implied on Sunday, in an article on "how to fly safely." Correctly noting that the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are only 90 percent protective against COVID-19, CNN went on to assert (incorrectly) that "translated into reality, that means for every million fully vaccinated people who fly, some 100,000 could still become infected."
COVID-19 can and has spread on flights, of course. But even before people started getting vaccinated, confirmed cases of transmission were relatively small. "The risk of contracting coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) during air travel is lower than from an office building, classroom, supermarket, or commuter train," an article in The Journal of the American Medical Association noted last fall. If CNN's estimate were true, that would mean many more vaccinated people getting infected on planes as overall case counts dwindle than unvaccinated people did at the pandemic's peak.
Luckily, CNN's estimate is dead wrong. "NO NO NO. That's not what that number means," tweeted University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Professor Zeynep Tufekci yesterday, adding "this didn't even happen when millions flew unvaccinated. So how could it make sense now?"
When we talk about a 90 percent vaccine efficacy rate, it does not mean that every single vaccinated person who is exposed to COVID-19 has a 10 percent chance of getting it; individual immune responses and other factors still apply. And it certainly doesn't mean that 10 percent of vaccinated people in the world, a country, or a given place will catch COVID-19.
"What a '90% effective vaccine' means is that the number of people who would otherwise have gotten COVID is 90% lower. It doesn't mean that only 90% of vaccinated people are immune," Australian journalist and University of Technology Sydney fellow Josh Szeps points out.
This would be like saying if 1,000 people go to the grocery story, 100 of them will get Covid. https://t.co/4CNrle6LMr
— Ryan Grim (@ryangrim) April 11, 2021
One million vaccinated people flying does not mean all one million people will be on flights where another passenger has COVID-19.
Even if that were the case, it does not follow that conditions—air circulation patterns, ventilation system operation, masking, proximity to the infected person, etc.—would make it possible for each vaccinated person on a flight to be significantly exposed.
And even if that were the case—the highly, highly unlikely scenario that every vaccinated person is exposed to COVID-19 in-flight—it does not follow that 10 percent of those travelers will definitely catch it. Who catches it upon exposure isn't just a pure percentages game; it also depends on individual immune responses, amount of exposure, and more.
"One common misunderstanding is that 95% efficacy means that in the Pfizer clinical trial, 5% of vaccinated people got COVID," writes Anna Nowogrodzki at LiveScience. "But that's not true; the actual percentage of vaccinated people in the Pfizer (and Moderna) trials who got COVID-19 was about a hundred times less than that: 0.04%."
Reason's Ronald Bailey recently looked "at what a 95 percent vaccine efficacy rate would mean in a hypothetical case in which a population of 100,000 people have all been vaccinated."
"Applying the 1 percent rate at which unvaccinated folks became ill during the vaccine trials over three months suggests that 1,000 people in an unvaccinated population of 100,000 would fall ill," notes Bailey. "But because all 100,000 people are vaccinated, the actual rate in the vaccinated population would be just 50 cases (0.05 x 1,000 = 50 cases)."
The CNN article has since been updated to say that while the vaccines are 90 percent protective, "that means it's still possible to get infected." A correction at the end of the article says "A previous version of this article incorrectly extrapolated vaccine efficacy and the probability of becoming infected with Covid-19 aboard airplanes. The risk is much lower than stated in the original version."
FREE MINDS
Tyler Cowen sketches out a new vision of libertarianism, after declaring last year that the libertarian movement was "pretty much hollowed out." Taking a second look, Cowen asks: "What does it mean to be libertarian now? I would say that the purer forms of libertarianism are evolving: from a set of policy stances on political questions to a series of projects for building entire new political worlds." With many past battles around regulation and communism won, and other old battles seemingly lost forever (health care) or unable to sustain much public interest (anti-war efforts), Cowen suggests that "much of the intellectual effort in libertarian circles is concentrated in two ideas in particular: charter cities and cryptocurrency."
But Cowen's piece ignores many areas where U.S. libertarians have long been focused, continue to focus, and could do real good—for the movement, and for the country more broadly—by focusing even more. Things like ending the drug war (which is arguable just as strong and destructive as ever, despite moving away from marijuana as a target), other criminal justice/police/prison reform efforts, fighting the surveillance state, dismantling oppressive occupational licensing, staving off a bloated and all-powerful antitrust regime, and fighting for free markets and free speech despite major political party figures who increasingly can't stand either, to name a few. And anti-war efforts seem valuable even—or especially—in the face of waning popularity.
Cryptocurrency is great, and charter cities intriguing. But U.S. cities and systems as they exist leave plenty of room for valuable, influential, and perhaps even some winnable libertarian fights, too. Building new political worlds is all good, but libertarians shouldn't give up just yet on the one we have, either.
FREE MARKETS
Are we headed for 1970s-style inflation? Reports about current commodity markets are eerily reminiscent of the '70s, The Wall Street Journal says:
In 1973, the U.S. was coming off a two-year experiment in wage and price controls, which artificially depressed prices and muted signals that the economy was overheating. Then, too, the Fed pursued an easy-money policy, keeping interest rates low—though considerably higher than now, and without today's purchases of bonds and mortgage securities….
In 2021 we're emerging from the pandemic shutdown, which cratered growth and slammed the economy—depressing price pressures, not unlike what the price-control program did 50 years ago. Today's Fed policies are even more expansive. And Congress has just enacted a $1.9 trillion stimulus bill—on top of earlier relief bills costing another nearly $2 trillion, a lot of which remains unspent and will continue to fuel demand this year and beyond.
Does that mean that we're doomed to repeat the earlier disaster? Today's fiscal stimulus clearly dwarfs anything even considered in the 1970s. Moreover, there is a palpable excitement that Americans will finally be able to discard the shackles of Covid and spend the money they saved last year and the wages they're starting to earn again. So demand is likely to soar.
As was the case 50 years ago, there are constraints on supplies: shipping delays are blocking deliveries; manufacturers can't get parts to ramp up production; real-estate values are skyrocketing, while lumber shortages constrain home building; and most commodity prices are rising precipitously. Experts reassure us that the annual inflation rate will rise only to about 2%. We hope they're right, but when demand increases faster than supply, prices tend to go up.
QUICK HITS
@TheAtlantic has a new article, suggesting we should worry about the courts of appeals in 20 years b/c many Trump appointees will be Chief Judges and might manipulate panel assignments (creating more 2R/1D panels). This piece is *deeply problematic* and misreads my scholarship.???? https://t.co/rs9fNfW7ph
— Marin K Levy (@marinklevy) April 11, 2021
• Minnesota police "fatally shot Daunte Wright, a 20-year-old Black man, during a traffic stop near Minneapolis Sunday, sparking protests and unrest that lasted into the night," reports Axios.
• The Supreme Court says California can't ban religious meetings in households.
• President Joe Biden is walking back a pledge to create a national commission on police oversight.
• Cartoonist Peter Bagge looks at the life of Henry David Thoreau.
• The term "'BIPOC' isn't doing what you think it's doing," write Andrea Plaid and Christopher Macdonald-Dennis at Newsweek.
• "The Texas Supreme Court voided a restraining order against a salon owner who was jailed and fined last year for keeping her store open despite executive actions requiring the business to be closed," reports The Hill.
• Maryland is passing a slew of criminal justice reforms.
• Defense Department police officer David Dixon, arrested last week on murder charges, is also being accused of assault.
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CNN Says 10 Percent of Vaccinated Air Travelers May Catch COVID.
Why would I watch CNN if they're not going to tell me what to be afraid of today?
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I look forward to CNN being taken off Twitter for misinfo
I watch CNN because the news is just so damn depressing and I know I'm in no danger of accidentally seeing the news if I only watch CNN.
Unlike fox, their anchors take vaccination selfies.
Unlike Fox, who has only devoted 22 stories to Matt Gaetz allegedly paying for girls who at one point used to be under age 18, CNN has devoted 350 story segments to Matt Gaetz.
How can FNC refuse to properly cover the biggest story of the decade?
Wait, are you saying he once talked to a girl who at some point in her life was under 18?!?!? This must have been the huge scandal WK was going on and on about this weekend.
You should hear what he did to her with a fire extinguisher. Gross.
was "boofing" involved?
We’ll have to wait until Dee shows up with the rest of the narrative, but I sure hope so.
In 2016, Matt Gaetz claimed he "was saved in a Baptist Church during my teenage years."
https://www.ontheissues.org/FL/Matt_Gaetz_Principles_+_Values.htm
His current defense is that he has done nothing illegal. You would think that Gaetz, and people who support him because he claims to be a born-again Christian, would feel they need an answer about the morality of his behavior, not just the legality.
Why do you care? Are you a born-again Christian supporter of him?
No, but he'll concern troll that he is.
I remember how he once accused me of being a moralistic Xtian, but look at him go know.
Cite?
Those people don' t think they're god, so I can see how you'd have trouble with it.
You have a lot invested in this scandal.
Not really. You seem to have a lot invested in defending Trump and his inner circle of ass kissers.
Now lets do Biden and Pelosi's alleged Catholicism
Matt Gaetz official statement: "Matt Gaetz has never paid for sex."
Breaking news: Matt Gaetz venmoed $900 for sex.
So we care about the private sex lives of others now?
I'm a libertarian. I don't have a problem of two consenting adults engage in such activities.
Not the point. Point is he is a liar.
Like Clinton? Wake me up when Gaetz bangs a young intern in the oval office and I'll join in your opprobrium concern.
Why you are focused on a state level rep yet can't find even a breath to also call your current president a liar for his open lies is kind of strange.
Apologies a state rep, not state level.
It’s only strange if you believe her when she says she’s not a lefty.
If the age of consent in Florida is 18, and he transports a 17 year old girl to DC where the aoc is 16, I have a problem with that.
Well, two problems, including the aoc in DC.
If he picked up a 17 year old girl at a party in DC, then he's cheesy. But he's not my congressman.
If he's showing porn in the floor of the House, and they kick him out for violating House rules, then I don't have a problem with that.
You pretend to be a libertarian. You should pretend not to care to keep up the appearance.
22 stories on fox about Gaetz. How many on CNN about Hunter (Republicans Pounce included)?
Who?
Why is this the "biggest news story of the decade?" Oh because you said so?!? Stop deciding what's news cause you're not very good at it.
Adjust sarc detector.
And this is why we have the TSA, half the country thinks that a loaded gun will seek them out of its own volition to kill them, milk is still being pasteurized, etc. etc. etc.
Americans have no math skills and absolutely no understanding of statistics, leaving the country wide open to every fear-monger that comes along.
Guns are almost as blood thirsty as SUVs.
Yes, we got men on the moon by not understanding math.
Compare the mathematical and scientific literacy in 1960 with that today. I don't think we're doing very well.
If CNN's estimate were true, that would mean many more vaccinated people getting infected on planes as overall case counts dwindle than unvaccinated people did at the pandemic's peak.
I knew it. The vaccines are causing case counts to go up!
You know, it would have useful if, for comparison purposes, CNN had cited the effective rates for other vaccines.
Smallpox: 95%. So, according to CNN math, for every 100,000 Americans who received smallpox vaccines, 5,000 Americans will contract smallpox.
Flu: 40% on average. So, according to CNN math, for every 100,000 Americans who received a flu shot, 60,000 and will catch the flu anyway. Makes you wonder why we even bother.
The vaccines are causing case counts to go up!
Moral hazard?
...if 1,000 people go to the grocery story, 100 of them will get Covid.
OH MY GOD
To be fair. 70 of those people will be fat.
Jeff and his 69 sockpuppets?
Which sock is the fattest? I'm guessing SPB2.
We know it’s not WK. She eats like a bird.
Maths ain't they thang.
It’s official. Life is a joke.
More rioting, looting, and arson from BLM and friends of BLM. The New normal.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/rioters-smash-police-cars-vandalize-police-station-in-minneapolis-while-looters-storm-businesses-following-police-shooting
Ted Wheeler finally grows a pair. Admits antifa/blm burning down buildings with people inside is attempted murder.
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/tyler-o-neil/2021/04/11/antifa-sets-fire-to-portland-ice-hq-with-people-inside-n1439102
When Mayor Ted Wheeler (D-Portland) finally condemned antifa riots last August, he explicitly condemned this kind of behavior as a form of attempted murder.
Finally? He condemned last August per the link.
Yet he has not condemned this attack.
Wonder if that August fire he condemned was just at his condo?
Either way he needs to be doing way more then condemning. He needs to lock up these hooligans.
This article referred to them and attempted murder. He condemned them once late last year and then right back not doing so after.
Antifa s fires and attempted murder are definitely frowned upon by Wheeler, who does not consider these acts to be illegal.
Youre right. Misread it. So just 2nd attempted murder by blm/antifa.
Um...per the article...last August.
Why is it that Pelosi et al can stop riots effectively in DC but won't lift a finger for the rest of the country? Simple she and the others don't give a shit if the country burns to the ground.
Saint George Floyd, "patron saint of resisting arrest and looting".
And of Dancing Counterfeiters Who Cannot Breathe
That was pretty funny
Who catches it upon exposure isn't just a pure percentages game...
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Put that in an easy to read graph for me.
But Cowen's piece ignores many areas where U.S. libertarians have long been focused, continue to focus, and could do real good—for the movement, and for the country more broadly—by focusing even more. Things like ending the drug war (which is arguable just as strong and destructive as ever, despite moving away from marijuana as a target), other criminal justice/police/prison reform efforts, fighting the surveillance state, dismantling oppressive occupational licensing, staving off a bloated and all-powerful antitrust regime, and fighting for free markets and free speech despite major political party figures who increasingly can't stand either, to name a few.
Oh, c'mon - you don't have to be OBL to know what the most important item on the "Libertarian" agenda is - and it ain't the part about making billionaires richer.
Electing those professional Washimgton Class pols who refuse to tweet mean things?
Moreover, there is a palpable excitement that Americans will finally be able to discard the shackles of Covid ...
Too bad 10% of them will die .
Huh?
Even at the worst of it, the death rate was never that high.
That would make plenty of room for the hordes streaming over the border.
Anyone who cares about feminism must support continued US military presence in Afghanistan.
Concerns mount that US withdrawal from Afghanistan could risk progress on women's rights
Fortunately Biden's entire career has been defined by his foreign policy wisdom. So I don't expect him to give in to the cowardly "cut and run" temptation.
#LibertariansForStayingInAfghanistan
#GiveItAnotherDecade
When I was there, Hillary sent over 25 million for "women's rights". It went over really well with the Afghani Islamic males. They could not wait to get started! After that 25 million disappeared, they sent more money. What did the US Taxpayer get? 1 female Afghan pilot. After the US trained her as a pilot, she received so many death threats from her fellow Afghans that she lives here now. She is probably flying for United.
Ukraine vs Russia 2 is coming up soon.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/12/europe/ukraine-zelensky-front-lines/index.html
Apparently no worries from Russia as they learned under Obama they can invade former Russian countries with no response.
Also, they can be pretty sure Basement Bunker Biden won't even know it happened.
Why would we get involved? They have been fighting in those regions for hundreds of years. It is like the middle east but colder.
Not all involvement is military. Sanctions should be fine.
The CNN article has since been updated to say that while the vaccines are 90 percent protective, "that means it's still possible to get infected."
Yes, CNN, knock those haughty vaccinated pricks off their high horses!
20,000 innocent Americans per day were murdered by the China virus during the SleepyJoe regime.
Thats 7 9/11s every day.
Or 9 7/11s, they mean pretty much the same thing
Slurpee day approaches.
What about 11 7/9s? Resistance may be futile, but hell if I'm putting up a fight.
7/9 is the end of the july 4th hangover?
Only if you are doing it right.
±2 days.
Yes yes, I know the procedure for armed robbery.
Or 20,000 1/6 (seeing as 1 us citizen was killed
That's like 120 football fields laid end to end. Or is it circled around the Earth umpteen times?
I have flown on 5 flights during the pandemic. 1st two flights before masks were required (and planes were packed full) and I ended up quarantined for 2 weeks afterward - ~ March20-2021. Pretty sure I did not get it ( but how can I know for sure?). Flew to Hawaii in February when I realized prices were less than $400 roundtrip and I could sleep on my kids couch for a week. 777 was 25% full and I did wear the mask but it turned out fine.
Arizona is first state to ban outside funding of elections.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/arizona-legislature-votes-to-outlaw-private-election-grants/ar-BB1fpiay
These were the funds that allowed Zuckerberg and others to fund unequally heavy blue areas of key states. Voting laws and measures should be uniform at a state level, these funds ripped the scales based on historical vote trends in key areas.
I don't see this as a good thing. Speech is speech.
It isnt speech... they were funding government offices. Read the many articles on it.
Unconstitutional
Yeah, they were doing a hell of a lot more than just "funding."
"What does it mean to be libertarian now? I would say that the purer forms of libertarianism are evolving: from a set of policy stances on political questions to a series of projects for building entire new political worlds."
Exercises in world building sounds about right for libertarians.
A nice 5 year plan.
Every idealist eventually ends up an authoritarian. It is the only way their system can work.
Beware any movements promising you freedom, especially those movements promising you freedom by undermining order. The only thing those ever deliver is no freedom and no order.
Freedom is a byproduct of a successful society, not the principal object of one. Unless you like Somalia.
Or just subcontract that work to Joe Bidens team of non-mean tweeters
Less than 10000 people in Georgia have no form of ID or SS card currently.
https://dailycaller.com/2021/04/09/georgia-election-law-less-than-ten-thousand-identification/
Nothing is actually stopping these people from getting ID. Drives to get people identification would be beneficial for these people more so than dissolving election integrity.
You need a picture ID to pick up baseball game tickets.
If *that* is not Jim Crow, nothing is!
Jim Condor
Jim-bo jet.
In Baltimore, it's Jim Oriole.
That's Jim Oriole, HON.
I would call Baltimore a shithole but I don't want to offend gas station bathrooms
Where poo goes to poo.
Sounds delicious!
God, you are a fucking moron
Building new political worlds is all good, but libertarians shouldn't give up just yet on the one we have, either.
Libertarians should never have even contemplated the notion of giving up on what we have. Hermit world or escape is merely a last-case option - not the basis for an actual society.
What a free society offers to the individual is much more than what he would be able to do if only he were free. - Hayek - from Constitution of Liberty
you do realize Hayek was a crank? and you look like a moron slurping him?
Do you realize that the thought stands on its own, without reflexive ad hominem attack on the person who said it?
I do JFree is just worth kicking whenever you see him, and slurping a crank is as good a reason as any
Any negative reply to a JFree comment is ad hominem due to his very nature.
Somebody need to read I pencil
You think I haven't? Insomnia is very common.
And that just proves that you and your Mises ilk are not even remotely the descendants of classical liberals. The assertion of it is just a convenient lie.
Mises was a crank too.
*mind blown*
You have the hot takes of vox's top reporters*
*that is only a compliment if you are retarded
Well it was your compliment so that tracks.
#BidenBoom update.
In 2021 Democrats have raised the minimum wage by: $0.00 / hour
In 2021 Reason.com benefactor Charles Koch's net worth has increased by: $4.81 billion
#InDefenseOfBillionaires
Too bad SleepyJoe is going to take all that money away.
Not according to OpenBordersLiberal-tarian's First Law.
It doesn't matter that Democrats claim to oppose "the rich" or "the 1%" or "economic inequality." When they're in power, what actually happens is that billionaires rapidly accumulate even more wealth.
...much of the intellectual effort in libertarian circles is concentrated in two ideas in particular: charter cities and cryptocurrency.
ARE THOSE EVEN IN ADJACENT POLITICAL COMPASS QUADRANTS?
We hope they're right, but when demand increases faster than supply, prices tend to go up.
The fight against inflation demands that we outlaw price gouging.
No one even wants to know what inflation is now. Everyone wants their house price to keep going up. Everyone wants to be able to refinance and cash out a bit.
It’s the only way you can keep up with inflation.
It is what CREATES inflation
Whoosh!
Everyone wants to be able to refinance and cash out a bit
Those who do not learn from history are damned to repeat it. But it's worse than that since it will be the same fools who used their homes as piggy banks in the run up to 2008 doing it again. Some people never learn, even if they personally are the ones getting burned.
For the last 10 or so years, the credit scores behind the mortgages have been steadily increasing to the point where ~70% of mortgages are held by people who have a credit score of 720 or higher. Versus less than 50% in the run up to 2008.
I don't know what the cause is (stuck ship, home building and renovation, etc.), but I picked up some 14/3 Romex cable over the weekend and it was more than twice the price it was a few months ago...
Lumber too.
Racist!
Minnesota police "fatally shot Daunte Wright, a 20-year-old Black man, during a traffic stop near Minneapolis Sunday, sparking protests and unrest that lasted into the night..."
Gentlemen, start your narratives.
Daunte Wright was given "unity" with Gaia.
Have they included his third grade photo yet? Are they going to just forgo the entire justice system and award his baby mama, her brood, and his seventeen other illegitimate crotch droppings a few hundred million?
"Court records show Wright was being sought for fleeing from law enforcement officers and for possessing a gun without a permit during an encounter with Minneapolis police in June." "In that case, a statement of probable cause said police got a call about a man waving a gun who was later identified as Wright."
But the family says:
"Katie Wright said that passenger was her son’s girlfriend. Wright said her son called her as he was getting pulled over".
“All he did was have air fresheners in the car and they told him to get out of the car,” Wright said. During the call, she said she heard scuffling and then someone saying “Daunte, don’t run” before the call ended. When she called back, her son’s girlfriend answered and said he’d had been shot.
Ahh, the old, "didn't do nothing". Those air fresheners need to be held accountable! "I can't breathe, it is the air fresheners stealing my life, liberty, and my very breath!"
I'll be out of the office for a few days. I'm going to run a truck full of plywood up to Minneapolis to sell to local business owners that had nothing to do with this, but will surely be punished for it. I offered to bring up a bunch of guns, but the liberal folk of Minneapolis have no need for guns. They enjoy the company of looters and don't mind rebuilding their homes and businesses from time to time.
The Supreme Court says California can't ban religious meetings in households.
The vote suggests to you that four are hostile to either religion or freedom.
Why not both?
"for every million fully vaccinated people who fly, some 100,000 could still become infected."
"COULD!! Moreover, for every million fully vaccinated people who DO NOT fly, some 100,000 COULD still become infected."
For every 10,000 that read or watch CNN, 100,000 end up much dumber
We have a winner!!!!
We hope they're right, but when demand increases faster than supply, prices tend to go up.
Don't be stupid, if prices start to rise Biden can just issue an executive order repealing the law of supply and demand and appoint Elizabeth Warren as Price Czar to take care of the problem.
Or just raise the Minimum Wage to a liveable $27/hr
One must laugh or one must cry.
If it worked for Nixon, why not now?
It's working in Venezuela, too!
<i"Are we headed for 1970s-style inflation? Reports about current commodity markets are eerily reminiscent of the '70s"
I WISH.
That would be a best case scenario. Certainly better than the Weimar Germany/Zimbabwe one they seem to be setting us up for.
You gold bug Mises types are complete morons.
Predicting 500 of the last zero hyperinflations
HAYEK!
Where did he mention gold?
I didn't, but the J(ew)Free/chemleft/WK complex can't into anything that isn't on its talking points pdf.
I guess I will cry into the 3000x rise of my bitcoin.
bought AAVE when it was 5 cents.
Stupid Mises type understanding economics and using that knowledge to get filthy rich!
Don't worry. We have the Magic Money Theory now.
President Joe Biden is walking back a pledge to create a national commission on police oversight.
Finally remembered before the midterms which voting blocs his party has a lock on and which's unions his party candidates need endorsements from?
The term "'BIPOC' isn't doing what you think it's doing...
You mean those nonwhites don't go both ways?
What is it doing then?
I keep thinking "bipolar coloreds" when I see it.
of course you do SQWRLS of course you do
This year is the first time I heard the term. At first I thought it was some new sexual or gender preference.
More of a religious term.
"He said they pulled him over because he had air fresheners hanging from his rearview mirror," she said.
RACIST!!
If they are the tree type, they are commonly referred to as "The Felony Forest".
Maryland is passing a slew of criminal justice reforms.
There's going to be a whole black market for cops and prosecutors needing their fix.
That BIPOC article is hilarious. Don't think ENB meant for it to be funny, but I'll thank her for the laugh anyway.
Looks like the Israelis find droolin' Joe's efforts NWS:
"Iran blames Israel for sabotage at Natanz nuclear site"
[...]
"DUBAI, United Arab Emirates -- Iran blamed Israel on Monday for a sabotage attack on its underground Natanz nuclear facility that damaged its centrifuges, an assault that imperils ongoing talks over Tehran's tattered nuclear deal and brings a shadow war between the two countries into the light.
Israel has not claimed responsibility for the attack. It rarely does for operations carried out by its secret military units or its Mossad intelligence agency. However, Israeli media widely reported that the country had orchestrated a devastating cyberattack that caused a blackout at the nuclear facility..."
https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/iran-blames-israel-sabotage-natanz-nuclear-site-77016415
We better send in troops .
Israel seems to be doing just fine on its own.
If it was Mossad this was meticulously planned well in advance. It did result in damage but I think it was more of a warning of what the Israelis are capable of. Generally Mossad involves people on the ground. They can tell you what the Ayatollah had for breakfast.
Falafel?
Probably an omelette, off a young boys backside.
As long as Biden/Harris remain in control of the White House, Israel no longer relies upon (or trusts) the US to help protect it (or other middle east countries) from Iranian financed/controlled terrorists or from Iran's potentially forthcoming nuclear weapons.
Hopefully and thankfully, this won't be Israel's last assault on Iran's nuclear bomb production facilities.
it's confusing. We both seen people claim that BIPOC stands for Black, Indigenous, and (Other) People of Color while others say that it means Black, Indigenous, and People of Color or even Black, Indigenous, People of Color. Beyond the confusion, when you insist on naming Black people separately from other people of color, as BIPOC does, you are in effect claiming that Black people aren't people of color, though Black people coined the term.
Oh, FFS! Just who *are* Andrea Plaid and Christopher Macdonald-Dennis?
*** searches ***
How about we stop categorizing people by the color of their skin? That might work.
That would be the end of the democratic party; not bloody likely.
And what would the media have to report on and how would the activists earn their income?
Sustainable racism is an important American industry.
Thomas Sowell says that Jessie Jackson "earns" ten times more than he does. So, being intelligent and respected pays less than being a race-baiter. Who knew?
How about we stop categorizing people by their names? Although in the case of Plaid that's a color too.
Racist!
Christopher MacDonald-Dennis is the Chief Diversity Officer at Massachusetts College of Liberal Arts. Andrea Plaid's work on race, gender, sex, and sexuality has appeared in Vogue.com, In These Times, On The Issues, Bitch.com, and Rewire. Her forthcoming stylebook, Penning with the People, is forthcoming.
Emphases added. *** facepalm ***
It'll be released at 9AM in the morning.
Andrea Plaid is... plaid, and thus not a color at all.
Indeed, many argue Black is the absence of color.
Plaid is more than one color, so she's a Person of (many) Colors.
it’s confusing. We both seen people claim
*headdesk*
At least "have" was just left out, instead of being (idiotically) replaced by "of"
It's deeply racist to suggest there is only one proper way of writing.
Writing clearly is racist, confusing people is racist. You would think more people would be inclined to choose the safest option and fuck off.
The scary part is, these people believe it.
I can’t wait until they come full circle to ‘colored people’.
Wanna see what someone with real brain damage from TDS writes?
"Judge rules in favor of landlord after lease lawsuit at S.F. building partly owned by Trump"
[...]
"...Former President Donald Trump owns 30% of the building, which is part of the former Bank of America headquarters and retail center. He was not involved the lawsuit, according to court documents..."
https://www.sfchronicle.com/local/article/Judge-rules-in-favor-of-landlord-after-lease-16090174.php
He was not involved in the suit, but we just can’t resist somehow implicating him.
and fighting for free markets and free speech despite major political party figures who increasingly can't stand either,
Does this include China?
It's hard enough getting libertarians to accept the idea of herd immunity, but for the government agency to completely fluff the concept just makes it that much worse. Fucking karens.
90% effective vaccines means that when everyone gets vaccinated the risk is cut down by 90%, and YOUR individual risk of catching it is further reduced by 90%. And that's on top of your existing very low odds. So everything else being equal, you have less than perhaps a tenth of a percent chance to catch it. Assuming we can get to 90% vaccination rates.
But that's not taking herd immunity into account. Herd immunity means the virus can't survive in the population. The CDC is a bunch of wankers for perpetuating the scaremongering, instead of praising the what is shaping up to be one of the the biggest vaccination successes in history.
p.s. Yes, I ran across an Objectivist who claimed that "herd immunity" was mystical thinking by collectivists, that there was no such thing as a population, that only individuals exists. True fact. The nutter went on to claim that language itself was not a product of a culture, but that all languages sprung fully formed from the brow of the individual. Fuck Rand and her weird religion.
Herd immunity means the virus can’t survive in the population.
That's not what it means. It will remain endemic - like influenza is now. Herd immunity means that when the conditions are favorable for the virus to ramp up, it doesn't turn back into a pandemic. Rather it grows a bit and then can't find enough people to keep growing. But it keeps surviving - and in that scenario also mutating.
Eliminating the virus is different.
The only sure cure is lockdowns.
Everyone needs to stay home and have food delivered. Forever.
hey look every one two idiots are arguing about something beyond them
I've run across Objectivists who reject quantum indeterminacy too.
It really is a religion.
Stuff like that is pure academia. It distracts from the greater lessons of Objectivism: being responsible for oneself and expecting the same from others, to name just one. A bunch of math geeks saying the world is more mysterious than it appears to a reasonable person with normal faculties does nothing for the conversation.
Herd immunity is fine to talk about, but I prefer data I can directly measure.
The proof of the size of the problem is in case count, hospitalization count, death count. Full stop.
When ICU hospitalizations and deaths approach zero, we no longer have a problem.
I'll tell you what herd immunity meant when I learned of it in medical school in the 1970s: It meant the additional statistical immunity within a population (originally of farm animals) in close contact above the degree of immunity conferred on the individuals in that population (because the chance of contracting an infection depends on the amount of exposure to other infected individuals, as well as on the individual's own immunity). Therefore if the herd was all immunized by a vaccine that was X% effective, it's as if the individuals of that herd were Y% immune, where Y was greater than X. The concept of "herd immunity" was to account for that difference, Y - X, and was an explanation of how a vaccine with even a low percentage of efficacy could be useful if used on a "herd". Of course it applies to all immunity, no matter how acquired.
Therefore "herd immunity" is not a threshold concept. All herds have herd immunity, it's just a question of how much, in terms of estimating the effective immunity of the individuals in it.
"I’ll tell you what herd immunity meant when I learned of it in medical school in the 1970s:"
You mean like Will Hunting learned shit while "in" MIT?
Janitors are people too!
"that language itself was not a product of a culture"
Maybe he meant to say that, "lack of language skills is due to lack of culture"
Fuck you and your weird caricatures.
The idea that Iran's enemies would stand by idly while the Biden administration reinstates Iran's freedom to enrich their own uranium was something only stupid people believed. Israel appears to have hacked one of Iran's nuclear enrichment facilities over the weekend and shut down the power. This is a reminder that our allies have interests and capabilities of their own, and it's a reminder that should have been entirely unnecessary.
"DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Iran blamed Israel on Monday for a sabotage attack on its underground Natanz nuclear facility that damaged its centrifuges, an assault that imperils ongoing talks over Tehran’s tattered nuclear deal and brings a shadow war between the two countries into the light . . . .
While nature of the attack and the extent of the damage at Natanz remains unclear, a former Iranian official said the attack set off a fire while a spokesman mentioned a “possible minor explosion.”
The attack further strains relations between the U.S., which under President Joe Biden is now negotiating in Vienna to re-enter the nuclear accord, and Israel, whose Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has vowed to stop the deal at all costs."
----Associated Press
https://apnews.com/article/iran-blames-israel-sabotage-natanz-nuclear-site-62a7aa3182992ed0f97b5486d71280c2
Provoking a conflict between Iran and Israel should by no means be our biggest concern about Biden's reckless behavior. The fact of the matter is that the purpose of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty is to stop the proliferation of nuclear weapons, and if and when Biden reinstates the unconstitutional nuclear deal that Obama originally negotiated, it will allow Iran to start enriching their own uranium again in a number of years--a right they forfeited when they violated the NPT. Iran enriching their own uranium should be unacceptable from the perspective of American security.
Once Iran starts enriching their own uranium (free of negative consequences of violating the NPT), Iran's enemies in the region will all seek to acquire their own nuclear weapons--and we're not just talking about Israel, which already has nuclear weapons of its own. Rather, Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and the UAE will all seek their own nuclear deterrent. The Biden administration apparently believes that will be unnecessary, especially since they've undone all the efforts the Trump administration took to extricate us from guaranteeing the security of the Middle East and selling them the means to defend themselves against Iranian aggression.
The idea that the solution to the problems of the world, generally, and the Middle East, specifically, is Pax Americana--that's standard neoconservatism. These are the people who think the Iraq War went well and according to plan, who think that Trump was wrong not to invade Syria in defense of the Kurds, and believe that the ultimate expression of democracy and freedom is U.S. led wars of liberation pretty much wherever they can be justified. These are progressive ideas about how the government is here to save the world--not to serve the security and economic interests of the United States.
The neocons were wrong to believe Iran would stand idly by while the United States "liberated" Iraq. In fact, the Iranians started violating the NPT when the U.S. was vulnerable, with our troops sitting on a powder keg in Iraq and an Iranian backed religious party being elected to dominate the American liberated, Iraqi government. To whatever extent the neocons believe that Egypt, Israel, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and the UAE will sit idly by while the Biden administration capitulates to Iran's nuclear weapons program, they are also wrong. Israel's actions over the weekend demonstrate that, and that is by no means the last we'll hear about this from Iran's enemies.
Does the Biden administration plan to carve out special exemptions to the NPT for Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and the UAE, too--all of which are also parties to the NPT?
If they just supply them with short range, low order nukes, the "problem" would soon solve itself.
Pakistan and India have nukes. They haven't used them yet, because they don't have enough to ensure total annihilation.
But John Kerry uses both a proper Mid-Atlantic affect as well as a French affect when bloviating, uses proper watersports equipment, and tweets only genially
more than likely Iran screwed up, someone accidently pulled a plug, and is looking for a scape goat. that doesn't mean they won't go to war though
It is more than likely that this is the work of Mossad.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/western-officials-say-mossad-behind-natanz-power-cut-iran-calls-it-terrorism/
They sure are pesky fellas.
Fake news the jews would have just used their space lasers
The fact of the matter is that the purpose of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty is to stop the proliferation of nuclear weapons, and if and when Biden reinstates the unconstitutional nuclear deal that Obama originally negotiated, it will allow Iran to start enriching their own uranium again in a number of years–a right they forfeited when they violated the NPT. Iran enriching their own uranium should be unacceptable from the perspective of American security.
I agree that NPT should be our main focus. But that is 100% irrelevant - if not positively hostile to Israel-US relationship. It is Israel that has nuclear weapons now and is and has always been unconstrained by NPT. It is Israel that has used the existence of that in order to dick around with its neighbors and not get a response. specifically re the 1982 invasion of Lebanon and the Sabra-Shatila massacre. That was the direct cause of Hezbollah coming into being. That's what resurrected the age-old role of Iran as protector of Shiites (very similar actually to Israel's perceived role re Jews). All that stuff may well be critical to Israel's security. But it is not at all critical to America's security.
Enriching uranium is NOT part of any NPT effort. Considering Israel's needs/preferences is NOT part of any NPT effort. Preventing a Shiite bomb IS part of an NPT effort. But that involves a fuckload more intelligence and effort than your nonsense amateur BS post.
Israel invaded Lebanon in response to attacks on civilians by the PLO from Lebanon, going back to during the Lebanese Civil War. That's irrelevant. Iran doesn't have the right to enrich uranium in secret or enrich uranium beyond what is necessary for civilian purposes regardless of what Israel has or hasn't done or why.
I can't even make heads or tails of what you're trying to say here. Some of it seems like free assocation, and a lot it doesn't make sense.
Enriching uranium is NOT part of any NPT effort.
The Iranians violated the NPT by enriching uranium in secret. They continue to violate the NPT by enriching uranium in secret. The sanctions were imposed by the UN Security Council, with the assent of China and Russia, because the IAEA determined that the Iranians were enriching uranium in secret. According to the NPT, the Iranians had the right to enrich their own uranium so long as they did so publicly and didn't enrich any more than was necessary for civilian purposes. Iran forfeited the right to enrich their own uranium when they violated the NPT. They also have announced, themselves, that they enriched uranium beyond what is needed for civilian purposes, which also violates the NPT. They still have the right to purchase uranium that has been enriched by others for civilian purposes on the world market. Enriching uranium beyond what is necessary for civilians purposes is a necessary step in creating a nuclear weapon.
When you say that, "Enriching uranium is NOT part of any NPT effort", what are you talking about?
.... what are you talking about?
She has no idea.
"What does it mean to be libertarian now"?
Nationalize the Truck Stops
Yes, of course. Reducing regulations means "nationalizing" something or other.
Are you trying to prove how stupid it's possible to be?
Sevo: letting the government get involved in an industry it was previously banned from is reducing regulations.
In the real world, introducing a government owned option to a previously competitive private industry invariable results in destruction of choice for consumers and a worse product for everyone. The examples of this happening are everywhere, and why libertarians are against government intervention in private markets.
Your arguement that this time the governments intervention will be different than every other time it intervened is a hypothetical, not backed up by the real world examples in the very market you want intervened in. Government owned travel plazas already exist, and we can see with our own damn eyes that they provide higher prices and less selection than off ramps where the free market instead of the government gets to decide who operates.
Stop pushing lefty bullshit hypothetical instead of addressing the real world examples.
Illocust,
Letting businesses operate in new locations, and thereby increasing choices, is NOT getting the government involved in an industry.
Stop pushing your lefty bullshit.
But it's not businesses. It's businesses selected by government officials. Airport service terminals and currently operating government owned service plazas in the real world and not your hypothetical both show that these plazas will not be open for any business to operate in. They will only be open to businesses that the government decides to contract with, and the government is allowed to impose rules on who can apply that have nothing to do with how much money a business is willing to pay for a contract (see Chick-fil-A being forced out of similar government owned airport food courts).
Why not make the land available to the highest bidder? No selecting anything.
Because what's the point of being a government beurecrat if you don't get to enforce your will on those you have power over? The government has already stake out the power to impose arbitrary rules and regulations on private businesses that contract to operate on government owned land. That's the state of the world today, and until that power is rolled back, any new contracts will be subject to it (don't hold your breathe for this to happen).
Unfortunately the area Robert Poole decades ago chose to specialize in studying, transportation, has him come off not seeming very libertarian. He really is, but it just happens that some of the likeliest and most productive reforms in that field to increase both liberty and wealth entail, not laissez faire, but changes in government policy wherein the institutional control held by government aren't reduced. When you take into account the major mechanism he purveys in transportation and some other areas of reform he's gone into — contracting out, often in blocks (package deals/exclusives/monopolies) — libertarians who have a more ideal model in their heads of advancing freedom often feel alienated by them.
Even from a non-ideal model perspective, the losses outweigh the gains. Turning the main sources of travel food, lodging, and gas from private hands to government controlled hands is major loss for the free market, and all we gain is making toll roads slightly more appealing?
Poole is so hyper focused on roads, he's forgetting that they aren't the only form of free market enterprise that can exist.
Because with limited access, the common law that the adjacent landowner have direct access to the public right-of-way does not apply. Since government selects where the entrances and exits are to the Interstates, government necessarily selects the type, number, and size of the establishments that can operate within that right of way. The only efficient way to do that is to lease the buildings and gas pumps as franchises. The pattern was set by the Pennsylvania Turnpike with Howard Johnson's, and it's hard to see how it could be significantly altered now.
The only thing the Interstates don't have that constrained the turnpikes is the lack of a ticket system of tolls. If you're not tolling a portion of the road based on where traffic enters and exits, then you don't have to make the road the exclusive access point for the patrons of the service stops. But then having direct access to such places on an Interstate is equivalent to building a new interchange that accesses their parking and gas pumps. So it then becomes a question, do we put an interchange here? I suppose some of the existing rest stops might be big enough to build into small service areas, or could be expanded (which would be government facility expansion) but mostly the article referenced seems to be about new construction — which would indeed be either building new entrances and exits to the roadway or building new or expanding existing government facilities. Of course this might be one of those fields in which, because of the circumstances we start in and the limited choice of politically feasible changes, an expansion of government would also be an expansion of freedom; but it doesn't seem like one, or much of one.
"But it’s not businesses. It’s businesses selected by government officials."
So keeping regulations which reduce choice is preferable to increasing choices even if *your* fave food isn't available there?
My goodness! How authoritarian of you!
Hey, it wouldn't be the first time a libertarian has been on the anti-choice side if increasing choice also increases government. How does it feel to be making the same argument as Mike Hihn?
I must bear some responsibility here by introducing Mike H. to that paradox maybe 20 years ago, probably on Libernet-d. He took that ball and ran with it...off the field. No, Mike, just because it works out that way in some cases doesn't mean it's likely in most.
Decrease not increase choice, the restrictions on government power that the article is recommending be removed will by their removal decrease the options available to consumers. It will not provide any new options as it will involve government contracts with franchises who already have businesses at off ramps, but it will kill many of the smaller businesses that rely on interstate traffic, reducing options for everyone.
Also, yes to your question. I am against the government mandating that every shirt be available in every color, even if that would temporarily increase my choices in shirts.
"results in destruction of choice for consumers and a worse product for everyone. The examples of this happening are everywhere"
See: VA
Well, being libertarian never meant being a writer for Reason.
I still say being libertarian boils down to the idea that we should all be free to make choices for ourselves.
P.S. Markets are people making choices.
Yep.
Life, liberty, property.
The hard part is property rights.
https://twitter.com/cclareMDMPH/status/1380939895875731456?s=19
It is official. I am on another planet. I just drove by suburban area and saw local school with millions of parents and kids for team sports, soccer. Bunches of kids with multiple teams. Have they vaccinated kids and I didn’t know????????♀️????????♀️????????♀️????????♀️????????????????????????
More emojis needed.
That’s a whole lot of Karens.
Doctors are often terrible people, and doctors with MPHs generally are aspiring dictators.
The dam is going to burst this summer and the pandemic-obsessives are going to have to find a new thing to perpetually live in fear of.
/thread
If I were a fact-checker I would rate this as partly true. The operative word is "could". It is true that 10% or 100,000 people could get covid who are vaccinated. What's wrong with that?
This is a great example of why fact-checking is misleading. We know it is true but the way they have constructed the argument by leaving out all of the info cited in this Reason article means they are slanting the fact. They are tagging it with emotions that are used to steer you away from feeling safe. It's like when Biden issues gun regulations and instead of pointing out how you can still buy an unlimited supply of guns Reason freaks out and yells about how he is not unifying us or something.
if I were a fact checker I would rate your post "Aspie" then mock you
Lol.
Not even a very good Aspie. If your chance of catching COVID in the first place is 30 +/- 10% and the vaccine reduces it to 3 +/- 1%, the odds of any group of 1 million fliers developing 100,000 cases of COVID is less than 1:1 million. Being clear, that's a trillion individual flyers (from a strictly frequentist, back-of-the-napkin, POV). At ~3B worldwide annually, it would take ~300 yrs. to get to the 10% transmission incident. But, assuming we don't stop flying, eliminate the virus, or develope (more) complete immunity, it's 'would' not 'could'.
Of course, such generalizations render the would/could absolutely meaningless (OMG! 100,000 fliers out of the last million flyers out of Brown over the last 300 yrs. caught COVID1!eleventy!), but still, if you're going to Asp out, have some respect.
please accept my Aspologies
If I were a reader I would laugh at this. Hard.
It is not true that 10% could become infected.
That's not how a 90% efficacy rate works, and you should know this, because it's been explained both in the article and in previous comments.
Jeff's socks are only as bright as he is.
I mean... if you had a perfect mix of the best and worst case scenario at the same time, I think the number is possible.
https://twitter.com/ConceptualJames/status/1381594836378193925?s=19
Every time you speak up against Woke and leftist abuses, it makes it easier for others to join in. Every time you fail to speak up when you should have said something makes it harder.
Speaking up—having courage—these require a leap of faith. You can't know others will stand up around you and give you support until you do it. Maybe they will, as you'll probably see. Maybe they won't, though, and that's why it's brave.
"You can’t know others will stand up around you and give you support until you do it." "Maybe they will, as you’ll probably see." "Maybe they won’t, though, and that’s why it’s brave."
Jan 6, explained. Perhaps they thought that the power of Twitter would bring millions. Instead, there was only a handful of misfits, "high on da Trump". They thought that they would have the numbers to attack without arms, they were wrong. It was not brave, just plain stupid.
Seriously if there isn't some capability to pre-emptively strike, then any sort of socio-econ-justice mob is just recruiting martyrs.
"Who will stand against the A-10 Chainguns Of Oppression with us?"
Even as vaccine supply exceeds demand, 1000 US citizens are still dying daily from covid19.
I would suggest natural selection, but alas the virus was made in USA as a vaccination for AIDs.
I’m eagerly awaiting the aids deaths statistics for 2021 and on to see if vaccination for an STD was worth millions of innocent lives. I doubt it will be.
"...I would suggest natural selection, but alas the virus was made in USA as a vaccination for AIDs..."
Sarc or stupidity?
Or should I bother asking?
It’s too early to be drinking and posting.
Not even close.
As explained above, it’s 20,000 dead per day under the SleepyJoe regime.
Total failure.
Thanks for the update. CNN took down there covid death counter so I'm lost in the woods.
I’m using this one
http://ourworldindata.org/grapher/daily-covid-deaths-7-day?tab=table
https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1381504199909851136?s=19
It ain't justice if you don't get those new Nike Air Max.
[Video]
Well, they were out of Jordans. What would you have them wear, work boots?
https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1381566429900722180?s=19
They voted for this
I ain't even mad
"@MrAndyNgo
BLM looters break inside & steal from an O’Reilly’s auto store overnight in Brooklyn Center, Minn. Auto stores were infamously looted & burnt to the ground last year in Minneapolis. #DaunteWright [video]"
Luckily, they breezed past the car parts and went right for the air fresheners.
You might be the funniest commenter on here
Tyler Cowen is just not as smart as he thinks he is or his readers think he is and he shows it again here with this terrible analysis of libertarianism today.
is he a libertarian? wasn't he going off on the need for govt central planning last year? let's just focus on the basics..sound money, free markets, small govt, and peace..sound money (bitcoin?), free markets, small govt (free cities) and peace..how are we going off track?
CNN went on to assert (incorrectly) that "translated into reality, that means for every million fully vaccinated people who fly, some 100,000 could still become infected."
I don't see how this is incorrect, they did say *could*. I *could* win both the Powerball and the Megamillions lotteries this week, too. (My chances would probably increase if I bought a ticket instead of relying on finding the winning ticket laying in the parking lot somewhere as I normally do, but still.)
Except that winning the Powerball doesn't magically make you more likely to win the Megamillions, especially if you stick to your tried and true method of playing only the tickets you find lying on the ground.
Reason et al.'s coverage of this is hilarious. It's like they found a magic lamp and wished they were smarter than everyone else. And now that the genie has made everyone more retarded than they are, they realize that not only is living in a world full of retards a bad thing, but they have to be careful not to let the retards find out that they're the ones who let the genie out of the lamp.
the "incorrect" part is CNN's assertion of "what it means"
and she's right for once
"What a '90% effective vaccine' means is that the number of people who would otherwise have gotten COVID is 90% lower.
The explanation of the derivative statistics while trying to avoid stating the primary statistic is laughable. If these media outlets, Reason included, go to great lengths to avoid mentioning the underlying statistics, aren't they denying the science?
Manipulating the science.
It is called "massaging the data".
https://twitter.com/TitaniaMcGrath/status/1381603353952681988?s=19
UPDATE FOR WHITE PEOPLE ⚠️
Attraction to black people is racist.
Attraction to mixed race people is fetishising their proximity to whiteness.
Marrying a black person is minority sex slavery.
BUT only sleeping with other whites is sexual racism.
This really isn’t difficult.
Since all sex is rape, do the motivations of the rapists really even matter?
Have to keep the bloodlines pure to fight racism.
https://twitter.com/user48736353002/status/1381603639899328514
https://twitter.com/cabot_phillips/status/1381621152209063939?s=19
Joe Biden to the public: There isn't a crisis at the border
Joe Biden to his employees: I will literally pay you to not come to work if you take these kids off my hands
"@realDailyWire
Biden Administration Offers Four Month Paid Leave To Federal Employees Who Take In Illegal Alien Children [link]"
What happens to the kids when the 4 month vacation is over?
They join the union and get a government job.
"'But that's not true; the actual percentage of vaccinated people in the Pfizer (and Moderna) trials who got COVID-19 was about a hundred times less than that: 0.04%."'
Here in Oregon, it's 0.026%. And the official stance is that most of those had compromised immune systems or their immune systems were slower to react to the vaccine and provide protection.
Is CNN now competing with social media in spreading disinformation? (Yes the question is rhetorical)
Thread
https://twitter.com/BrandyZadrozny/status/1381373176979075074?s=19
New from me: Nationwide white supremacist rallies flop.
[Link]
I guess it means there aren’t any. So a good thing.
Apparently, the only people to show up to the white supremacist rallies were their creators, the corporate media.
CNN and NBC were devestated.
I love the thread. The left never gets tired of congratulating themselves for defeating an enemy that only exists in their fantasies. They have been patting themselves on the back since Charlottesville.
A handful show up for WLM rallies. A few hundred showed up for statue rallies. 10,000s showed up for Trump rallies. 75 million voted Republican. Only fools and blowhards assert strong connections between those things.
Gotta support your fascist Trump supporting traitor buddies.
I'll tone down the "kill your family and rape your wife" rhetoric. I apologize for using it the first place.
I still think most mormons need to die, but I won't threaten specific mormons. Unless they're famous.
So to be clear saying "I'm gonna strangle your wife Chuck" is something I won't post. However "I'm going to strangle Mike Lee's wife" is ok.
Your welcome.
Tony's a creep.
Now I'm Tony?
Make up your mind canadian!
Habs Loafs is a good one... But you're a lame canadian who doesn't like hockey...
https://twitter.com/GovTimWalz/status/1381442690575785984?s=19
I am closely monitoring the situation in Brooklyn Center. Gwen and I are praying for Daunte Wright’s family as our state mourns another life of a Black man taken by law enforcement.
Is this guy deliberately trying to inflame the already potentially very precarious situation he has on his hands in his own state? Does he actually want more violence and destruction? This sure seems to border on being highly irresponsible rhetoric.
No. He is just a Cuck that doesn't know how to lead. He is no different than any other progressive Mayor.
CNN: The Cable Noise Network
Hey, having fewer scared progtards on planes is a good thing. More room for me and less body odor to have to breathe in.
No fat people either.
Airline travel in the COVID era has been downright pleasant, especially when you go through airports where the restaurants are still open.
According to CDC covid data and estimated infection rate, recovery from a past covid infection has conferred immunity to 44% of Americans, compared to just 19% who have become immune due to vaccines, for a total of 63% of Americans who are now immune.
But left wing politicians and media propagandists (including Reason) refuse to acknowledge this fact, while Big Tech has censored or cancelled those who tell the truth about natural herd immunity and reinfections (e.g. Scott Atlas, Gov DeSantis and many signers of the Barrington Declaration who went public).
Since 9.65% of Americans have tested positive for covid, and since CDC estimates 4.6 times more Americans have been infected (than tested positive), about 44.4% of Americans have been previously infected (.0965 x 4.6 = .4439), and virtually all of them remain immune (as only 11 cases of reinfection are known in the US, and just 66 worldwide).
Although 35.9% of Americans have received a 1st covid vaccine dose, about 44% of them were already immune (due to past infection). And since the 1st vaccine dose appears 90% effective, 1st doses of vaccine have (to date) conferred immunity to only about 18% of Americans (.359 x .556 x .9 = .1796).
Even worse, while 21.9% of Americans have received a 2nd covid vaccine dose, since about 44% of them were already immune (due to past infection) and since 90% of the rest were already immune (due to 1st vaccine dose), the 2nd vaccine doses have only conferred immunity to about 1% of Americans (.219 x .556 x .1 = .012).
In sum, according to CDC data and infection rate estimate, 44% of Americans are now immune from covid due to past infection, 18% are now immune due to 1st vaccine dose, and 1% of Americans are now immune due to 2nd vaccine dose, for a total of 63% of Americans who are now immune from covid.
Past covid infections have also conferred immunity to about 2.3 times more Americans (.444/.19=2.34) than have all the covid vaccines touted by the daily cacophony of newspeak (including here at Reason).
The good news is that several dozen states (mostly red states) are very close to achieving herd immunity.
The only five states where vaccines have or will confer immunity to more people than past infections are those with covid case rates of <5% (HI, VT, ME, OR, WA), which will also be the last states to achieve herd immunity.
Since 9.6% of Americans have tested positive for covid, and since CDC estimates 4.6 times more Americans have been infected (than tested positive), about 44% of Americans have been previously infected (.096 x 4.6 = .442), and virtually all of them remain immune (as only 11 cases of reinfection are known in the US, and just 66 worldwide).
But while 44% of Americans are NOW IMMUNE due to past infection, Big Pharma/CDC/FDA/Fauci and left wing media propagandists (including previously scientific Bailey and Sullum) continue to DENY this key fact, and those who told the truth have been falsely smeared as unscientific (Rand Paul, Scott Atlas, Barrington Declaration signers, etc.).
Although 34.5% of Americans have received a 1st covid vaccine dose, about 44% of them were already immune (due to past infection). And since the 1st vaccine dose appears 90% effective, 1st doses of vaccine have (to date) conferred immunity to only about 17% of Americans (.345 x .56 x .9 = .174).
Even worse, while 20.5% of Americans have received a 2nd covid vaccine dose, since about 44% of them were already immune (due to past infection) and since 90% of the rest were already immune (due to 1st vaccine dose), the 2nd vaccine doses have only conferred immunity to about 1% of Americans (.205 x .56 x .1 = .011).
In sum, according to CDC data and infection rate estimate, 44% of Americans are now immune from covid due to past infection, 17% are now immune due to 1st vaccine dose, and 1% of Americans are immune due to 2nd vaccine dose, for a total of 62% of Americans who are now immune from covid.
In fact, past covid infections have conferred immunity to about 2.4 times more Americans (.44/.18=2.44) than have all the covid vaccines touted by the daily cacophony of newspeak.
The good news is that several dozen states (mostly red states) are very close to achieving herd immunity.
The only five states where vaccines have or will confer immunity to more people than past infections are those with covid case rates of <5% (HI, VT, ME, OR, WA), which will be the last five states to achieve herd immunity.
Please note the preceding note cited CDC data from two days ago, while the note posted above it contains CDC data from today.
I reposted the version using two day old data after my first posting (using today's CDC data) did NOT appear on my screen after I posted it (as occasionally happens on this site), but it mysteriously appeared after I posted the second post.
(HI, VT, ME, OR, WA),
Hardest lockdowns last the longest. Now, who could have predicted that?
Good thing you moved to redneck, shithole Texas.
Now please tell the rest of the mormons to get the fuck out of my state!
That would be better than Poole's plan but it would be full of legal, regulatory and bureaucratic snags. His plan is to completely replace the Interstate Highway system with P3 toll roads and build new service plazas and perhaps expand some of the existing rest areas.
The first I heard about the Minnesota riots was a comment on the radio that said:
"there was peaceful protesting but damage and looting did spread to minneapolis"
Which just made me wonder what they don't consider peaceful.
"Which just made me wonder what they don’t consider peaceful".
White males and any cop, of course. What are they going to do, blame the looters?
Election integrity
Facebook and twitter immediately locked their accounts for spreading medical misinformation, right?
Excellent observation... and sadly accurate.
your journalizm dollars at work
They have stepped up procedures but airplanes in general are germ incubators.
Cruise ships are even worse.
People have reached the point of fatigue with this. Went out with the kiddos to one of those mini golf and arcade places yesterday. You can really see that there is still some distancing and masking it is much less than it was.
JesseAz, on Saturday:
https://reason.com/2021/04/10/food-freedom-is-coming-to-colorado/#comment-8850254
"Anyone think Reason will have an article on the Supreme Court only having a 5-4 ruling for the case of affordable regulating group prayers in ones home?"
ENB on Monday: "The Texas Supreme Court voided a restraining order against a salon owner who was jailed and fined last year for keeping her store open despite executive actions requiring the business to be closed," reports The Hill.
Hey, Jesse, what about acknowledging that your pre-cog "too local" whining about Reason's not covering the Supreme Court case was mistaken.
Pasted the wrong Supreme Court quote from ENB: The Supreme Court says California can't ban religious meetings in households.
It’s even funnier when you fuck up while squawking.
Call me particular, but a eleven words in the Quick Hits section of a Roundup, isn't actually an article.
This is like when you tried to say that Reason wasn't ignoring the Uighur holocaust by highlighting every time the word Uighur was used no matter how unrelated to the genocide.
You're such a failure. If I was your boss at the fifty-cent factory I'd can your ass.
So now you are the snark patrol?
Just admit you long for the inevitable progressive police state so you can rat out all your critics for wrong-think, you passive-aggressive piece of shit.
I am plainly aggressive in my criticism of JesseAz. No passivity about it.
But you are still a piece of shit.
I am plainly aggressive in my criticism of JesseAz.
That is certainly an example of aggressively pwning yourself.
You worship a perv god that doesn't exist. Whatever WK does you will always appear dumber to anyone with a brain.
WK suck Tony's dick.
I thought I was jeff?
No, you said I was sarc
Chuck said I was Jeff.
Not every non hick is a sock!
Either way you’re boring.
"I am plainly aggressive in my criticism of JesseAz"
More like plainly retarded. Jesse said an article, that was eleven words.
Do you buy your clown nose at the same place as your floppy shoes?
You mean like the police state in Utah that persecutes non mormons?
Well, liberals are completely lacking in even the most basis of logic while conservatives know the logic and then do all they can to ignore it.
I no longer give a shit about the virus and its variants and all the ridiculous parsing out of what the numbers mean or what confers immunity or not, blah blah blah. It's time for this nonsense to end. Anyone still scared about dying from it should protect themselves to the fullest extent possible but leave me the hell alone.
ahmmmm ENB..prices go up when you have more dollars chasing fewer goods. But in a real economy substitutes come on line very quickly or people decide to not spend until supply increases lowering the price as market forces come into play via price discovery. The real problem is just printing a few trillion and dumping it in the economy..sure the elites get it first before inflation hits...that is the real concern here not rising prices due to people using their savings to buy something....Reason writers need to take a mandatory course in basic economics..Austrian school of course.
OMg, This news made us very much confuse to believe.
Black Widow Leather Jacket
Reusable headline:
CNN Says ( ). That's Completely Wrong.