Presidential Power

On This Presidents Day, Stop Worshiping the Imperial Presidency

Presidents aren't saints. They aren't monarchs. They aren't celebrities. And they aren't your friends.

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Ah, Presidents Day: a much-needed moment to slow down and commemorate presidents past and present, because we definitely don't have enough of that in this country.

I jest!

Walking around Los Angeles, you'd be hard-pressed not to pass someone sporting BIDEN-HARRIS merchandise—a shirt, a bumper sticker, a sweatshirt, a mask. Back where I grew up in Virginia, the same is true, though they have a different hero: For years, "MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN" adorned the lawns, cars, and hats of those who wanted you to know they stood, and perhaps still stand, with former President Donald Trump.

That's not news. Public displays of affection for the U.S. president have become standard in everyday American life, extending well past election cycles and rock-concert-esque inaugurations, as if who you voted for is a personality trait. That's the conventional wisdom, it seems. So, on this fair Presidents Day, a reminder: Presidents aren't saints. They aren't monarchs. They aren't celebrities. And they aren't your friends! The executive leader is an employee of the country—someone whose job was, and still should be, limited in size and scope.

It has become something decidedly different over the years, with each president becoming more powerful than the last. That maybe explains, to some degree, why the political fangirling has grown in tandem. Though I can't step back in time to the 18th and 19th centuries, I would venture to say Americans weren't donning shirts with presidents' faces or branding horse-drawn carriages with the names of current and erstwhile U.S. leaders. Nor do I think former President George Washington, whose birthday serves as the inspiration for this holiday, would have wanted that sort of hero worship, when considering that the bedrock of America's founding specifically sought to create a new order—one without a king or king-like figure.

"The founders of our republic did not want to put that much [power] in the hands of a single leader," Mark Rozell, the founding dean of the Schar School of Policy and Government at George Mason University, told The Christian Science Monitor. "America's addiction to executive power has become dangerous for this country."

Similar to the idolatrous presidential merchandise, the bloating of the executive is not a problem exclusive to Republicans or Democrats. "Early in the 20th century, it was the left, the progressives, that wanted a dominant and domineering presidency," Gene Healy, a vice president at the Cato Institute, observed in a recent Reason TV documentary. "Later in the 20th century, it's the conservatives that see their political salvation in a strong executive branch."

Healy notes that "crisis tends to give you power on steroids." And, if history is any sort of indication, that's certainly true. "World War I, the Great Depression, World War II, the Cold War, 9/11, and the financial collapse of 2008: All of these led to a concentration of power in the executive branch," he says. "There's a ratchet effect when it comes to presidential power. Each new executive power grab that a new president makes is rarely given back."

Congress often declines to fight such expansions when the majority shares a party affiliation with the president. But little thought is given to what will happen when future leaders—ones without their ideological priors—have those same powers.

It's an attitude that appears to be lost on the bulk of partisans today. Take the most recent crisis: COVID-19. Early on in the pandemic, Trump proclaimed that he would reopen the U.S. economy by fiat in April, which, predictably, was met with a big "no" from many scientists, activists, and leaders. The proposal was farcical on its face; thanks to federalism, he had no authority to impose that will on the states. It seemed obvious. Yet many of those same scientists, activists, and leaders wanted him to implement a national lockdown, as if the constitutional question was somehow different. What?

With President Joe Biden now in the Oval Office, some have been more honest in their support of that approach. "The Democratic margin in the Senate—zero—is too slim for Mr. Biden to push ambitious laws through Congress, which is balky and slow even when majorities in both houses are broadly in agreement with the president," writes Eric Posner, a law professor at the University of Chicago, in The New York Times. "A weakened presidency," he continues, "would hamper national governance, and Democratic policies in particular."

Democrats, according to Posner, benefit more from a heightened executive role than do Republicans, particularly on issues like climate and immigration. But that comes with a huge caveat: "True, when Mr. Trump took power, he reversed some of Mr. Obama's unilateral actions, causing damage to the environment, the immigration system, health insurance and financial regulation," says Posner. "He also used his unilateral powers to unleash a destructive trade war."

Put more plainly, those in Posner's camp are "in for a rude surprise when the other team wins," concludes Reason's Jacob Sullum. For now, however, the tug of war continues: Biden kicked off his tenure with a series of executive orders, many of which just undid Trump's free-flow of directives.

That cognitive dissonance isn't going away anytime soon, and it will take quite some time before we see the air let out of the presidency. Maybe we never will. But we can apply that same mindset to how we approach the office. So celebrate this Presidents Day for what it is: a three-day weekend with time to recharge, free of president-forward fashion choices and political prayer candles.

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    2. Oh the trolls, so bored and so much more boring

      1. It’s an article on how the presidency became imperial and DLAM hails the latest incumbent.
        How is that trolling?

      2. You better shut the fuck up! Or Biden might have an executive order for your mouth, Bitch!

    3. Remember when Reason writers had credibility?

      1. What was it, 4, maybe 5 years ago?

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      1. They do. You don’t.

        1. You’ve called a 10 year veteran shot by the police unarmed how many times now while still lying about military service?

          1. Called her a traitor*

            1. She was a traitor. She took an oath to defend the constitution, then died attacking it.

              And Jesse, when are you going to grow a pair?

              1. How is opposing election laws being changed by governers not defending the constitution?

                1. Breaking into the Federal capital building with a violent mob is an awfully strange way to protest the actions of governors in places like Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Texas.

              2. As a valor stealing leftist traitor, you are very confused.

              3. Grow a pair from what? You? Lol. You are free to say who you are. Nobody is fucking stopping you stolen Valor. Oy your own cowardice. I even said I would verify your service once you did.

                1. Agree to the terms: nominate a neutral 3rd to protect my identity from the certified nutcases around here, and leave the board forever when I prove my service. Money is optional, but if you are certain, then you should put it up.

                  1. Lol. Like I would trust any of your stolen Valor friends. No matter how you fucking do it, personal information would be exchanged you retarded fuck. Escrow account? Would need account ownership or some type of contract with guess what… personal information. Are you this fucking retarded?

                    Who is the coward now stolen Valor? Put up your real name chicken. Your backing out like a coward. Lol.

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              4. She was a traitor. She took an oath to defend the constitution, then died attacking it.

                She was defending the constitution:

                That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it...

                1. I speak to soldiers almost daily. Not one would call a fellow veteran a traitor for merely protesting.

                  1. Jesse knows all veterans now. There is no limit to his knowledge!

                    1. Where did I say I knew all soldiers retard? Youre flailing like the lying sack of shit you are. Lol.

                    2. Can’t help yourself Dol.

                  2. “Merely protesting”. Violently breaking into the Capitol while Congress was in session.

                2. 65 lost lawsuits. When given the chance to present evidence, the Trump campaign withdrew or amended fraud allegations out of their suits, every. damn. time.

                  What other conclusion can be drawn from that, other than they have no case?

                  Bunch of sore losers turned traitors. Fucking pathetic. You lost. Learn from it and grow, or bitch and moan, and prepare to lose some more.

                  1. Hard pass.

                    I'd prefer to fast forward to this:

                    That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it...

                    Further, their standard of evidence was so high (for widespread fraud to sway the election) that there will never, ever, be a widespread voter fraud case they will see. Efforts to investigate the fraud were met with cold leftist shoulders.

                    Another thing it proved - poll watchers have zero purpose. Hundreds of affidavits from poll watchers, and complete dismissal. All poll watchers (democrat or republicans) might as well go home. It doesn't matter what they say or see, ever.

                    The game going forth will be fraud. Democrats set that precedent. I completely plan on cheating - next time around. FYI. There will be multiple votes from me. And our plan is to take over polling locations with republicans, kick democrat poll watchers out, like they did with us. Board up the fucking windows. And then tell you to suck it when you claim foul.

                    Now get back to claiming oppression and sucking Biden's dick.

              5. It's hilarious to listen to "oppresso" tell people to "grow a pair!"

                LOL

    5. Yeah, all I see are Biden Flags flying off the back of Priuses.

      Very un-American, worshiping a man over the flag, wouldn’t you say?

      1. and on a Japanese car, to boot.

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  2. Don’t worry, the Democrats have found a way to make sure the Republicans will never again win a Presidential election. And since there’s no other way to select the leader of a country except by voting, they’re all set.

    1. Reason should be ashamed of not using the mess that was the primaries and general to push for vote integrity. Instead they repeated the media narrative of sot down and shut up, cleanest election ever. Ignore every warning sign. Youre a traitor if you believe different.

      The fact they completely ignored the green party getting kicked off ballots shows they don’t care for integrity in voting.

      1. Yet, the Reason website is where you choose to hang out day after day.

        1. Hey, how is that fire extinguisher story coming along?

          1. The cop died of a stroke in the SAME MONTH as the capitol protest! Connect the dots!

            1. Wow, “same month”. The honesty pouring forth from you is overwhelming.

              1. Oh, was it a different month? Even better for your ‘argument’.

              2. Lol. So dumb it’s funny.

              3. "White Knight" of endless virtue signaling bull shit and narcissistic posturing...

                Was it a fire extinguisher or not? Figure it out man.

                1. Nobody is sure. We need to wait for the autopsy.

                  1. Wrote that too fast. I meant not the autopsy per se, but the conclusion of the entire investigation and the report.

                    1. You wrote it wrong, not too fast.

                    2. Wonder how the Ashli Babbit investigation and report are progressing. We don’t even know who murdered her yet.

                  2. You didnt wait for the autopsy the entire last month dumbfuck.

                  3. Nobody is sure. We need to wait for the autopsy.

                    You didn't wait for the autopsy or the investigation/report. You've been talking shit about it this entire time, and don't know a fucking thing about what really happened.

                  4. Yeah, the autopsy already disputes he died from head trauma. You better check with CNN or MSNBC to tell you the truth!!!

                2. Democrats were all set to push for Fire Extinguisher Control.

              4. Honesty? None from you.

            2. I’m at a loss on how to handle your satire of a cherished position of mine, so let me attack your integrity instead by pretending you’re dishonest.

        2. mods shut them down everywhere else.

          1. You are right. The real reason the alt-right, Trump worshiping gang hangs out here is that Reason has its comments section on benign neglect auto pilot mode.

            1. Maybe they should bring you aboard as the Ministry of Truth Czar…

              1. Don’t want that, but some basic moderation would be great: pay attention to flagged comments, shut down anyone who engages in personal threats, spoofing, and other blatant abuses.

                1. “basic moderation would be great:”

                  Wow a troll begging for censorship.

                2. Spoofing like when you stole my handle as part of a moral crusade? Or are you one of those lefties that don’t believe rules apply to you when you’re being righteous?

            2. You’re skipping over the fire extinguisher facts you pushed for a month. Why?

              I also like how the fake libertarians here want to ban people from posting here. LOL.

              1. Where did anyone say anything about banning people from posting here. You are, like you always do, mischaracterizing your debate opponent’s position.

                1. Aw man you know you got caugh lying.

            3. I can’t flat out say that I’m pro-censorship for problematic political opinions and narrative challenges on a libertarian board, so I’ll talk about “benign neglect”.

            4. Sticking with this alt-right bullshit, huh?

              1. The shoe fits. Maybe not you, but absolutely fits lc1789, Mother’s, several others here.

                1. Oh?
                  What have I supported that is a purported “alt-right” social, political or economic policy point?

                2. Define alt-right

                  1. Anyone that is not a progressive or socialist culture worrier

            5. You are right. The real reason the alt-right, Trump worshiping gang hangs out here is that Reason has its comments section on benign neglect auto pilot mode.

              Negative, it's because libertarians are becoming alt-right. Even the left thinks libertarians are alt right.
              https://medium.com/@elliotgulliverneedham/why-libertarians-are-embracing-fascism-5a9747a44db9

            6. And yet, you’ve been banned from here and none of the Trump voters have. How’d you manage that?

              1. She’s a fucking hypocrite.

      2. Are you kidding? Vote integrity is the absolute LAST thing these jerkoffs want. Many of them are illegally casting multiple votes in different locations!

    2. Is someone crying because they got fewer votes?

      Rs have and will always have the advantage in the bullshit electoral college. If we did it properly by popular, we wouldn’t have had a Republican president in the 21st century and we’d all be better off for it.

      But no, we have to act like people in fucking Wyoming should have increased power at the expense of everyone else just because they live on a pile of dirt.

      1. But no, we have to act like people in fucking Wyoming should have increased power at the expense of everyone else just because they live on a pile of dirt.

        Yes, Wyoming and its three electoral votes are the difference between freedom and tyranny.

      2. Always nice when democrats let us know they failed 5th grade civics.

        1. Not so much ignorance as hatred for our federalist system.

          1. No, it is ignorance. They still don’t know why the Senate has equal representation.

            1. See https://reason.com/2020/01/01/trumps-inartful-dodges/#comment-8068520 , where
              Der JesseBahnFuhrer says, of Trump, “He is not constitutionally bound on any actions he performed.”

              Hey JesseBahnFuhrer! Is this statement of yours, above, now applicable to Biden? Or is only Dear Leader Der TrumpfenFuhrer qualified to be our dictator? If so, why?

              1. Wow, even after I beat you down time and time again on what a bound vs unbound power is under the constitution you continue.

                You’re alcoholism is really bad these days sarcasmic.

                1. Actual FACTS are TOTALLY optional, to right-wing nut-jobs, in right-wing echo chambers, aren’t they, dictatorshit-luster? Whatever the collective hive-herd of fascist sheeple says it true, automatically becomes true? If the BIG LIES are told often enough, they become true, right?

                  Has this idea ever been tried before? What were the results? Can you make up some “historical facts” for us now, to make YOU look good?

                1. When the still, small voice of Conscience comes to you, in the middle of the night, and quietly nags you about your arrogance, condescension, and self-righteousness, you “flag and refresh” it, don’t you, self-satisfied smug Wonder Child? Ye who have silenced the Voice of your Conscience already, to the point that it might as well scream to you as loudly as an amoeba can?

                    1. Whoa! PhD Computer Scientist here has figured out how to move the mouse-cursor, and click on the flag icon! Congratulations, Stable Genius Junior! Maybe You could write Your NEXT Computer Science PhD thesis on HOW You do that? And thread-clutter-post it EVERY FUCKIN’ TIME that you see a post that you disagree with? And expect all the OTHER marching morons to THANK you profusely?

                      Well now… Have You and any of the other marching morons ever heard of “The Boy Who Cried ‘Wolf’?” Has it ever occurred to You, that the moderators will immediately ignore You and Yours? When you over-flag? Now, when the time comes that Reason.com gets hacked, and some hacker posts a child-porn link to video of YOUR kid or relative’s kids… Or YOU possibly-maybe abusing YOUR kid (think “getting swatted” for trivial bullshit), or “doxes” You and Your SSN, real name, home address, and photo… OR, they post the IP address and WIP security key, access codes, etc., to the self-destruct mechanism in your battery-driven “IP of All Things” penis cage, see https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210111/08041046030/internet-connected-chastity-cages-hit-bitcoin-ransom-hack.shtml

                      And You (“The Boy Who Cried ‘Wolf’”) will FLAG the post that unveils all such things… You will be IGNORED, asshole!
                      You ever think of THAT, asshole who cried wolf? I, for one, will NOT flag it when they “dox” you!!! Learn your lessons by SUFFERING, ye who will NOT learn otherwise!

              2. Notice that Der JesseBahnFuhrer will NOT answer the question! ALSO note that (just like other brainless, limitless-ego right-wing nut jobs), Der JesseBahnFuhrer NEVER apologizes for ANY total and complete hyperbole (AKA, LIES)!

                NEVER apologizes, NEVER takes lies back! Because Der JesseBahnFuhrer is PERFECT, in all ways, already!

                If you ever come around to wanting to work on your sickness, JesseBahnFuhrer, start here: M. Scott Peck, The People of the Lie,
                https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0684848597/reasonmagazinea-20/
                People who are evil attack others instead of facing their own failures. Peck demonstrates the havoc these “people of the lie” work in the lives of those around them.

                1. I’ve told you a million times to quit stalking me and my wife’s son.
                  I don’t want your endorsement of my book or anything else, I just want to be left alone. Besides, you’ve completely misunderstood my premise.

                2. I mean i once laid out usage of those terms dating all the way back to the founding fathers time period. You were too fucking stupid to understand it.

                  1. Notice that Der JesseBahnFuhrer will NOT answer the question!

                    Der JesseBahnFuhrer says, of Trump, “He is not constitutionally bound on any actions he performed.”

                    Hey JesseBahnFuhrer! Is this statement of yours, above, now applicable to Biden? Or is only Dear Leader Der TrumpfenFuhrer qualified to be our dictator? If so, why?

                  2. Note that the reason WHY Der JesseBahnFuhrer will NOT answer the question is as follows: Dictatorshit-lusters (right-wing nut jobs and others) either don’t like, or don’t understand, the simple “rule of law, and not of men”, AKA “what is good for the goose, is good for the gander”, principles of the same rules applying to one and all! ONE set of rules for YOU and YOUR tribe, and DIFFERENT rules (or NO rules), for me and mine!

                    Shame on you troglodytes for lusting after a 1-party “R” state! Study your history, power pigs! 1-party states do NOT work!!!

      3. Let Wyoming leave the union.

        Are you willing to accept that? If not, then fuck off. Telling people they need to bend over and take it deep is one thing. Forcing them to do so when they refuse, is another matter entirely.

        So, what are you willing to do? Are you willing to fuck Wyoming? No, keyboard warrior, you’re not.

        1. Mr. raspberry should go to Wyoming and say that in public.

          1. What!? And leave Castro Street and the Mission?

      4. I used to think it was impossible for anyone to ever be dumber than Tony, but lo and behold you’ve proven me wrong. Congratulations, you are now the dumbest person who comments here. I’d give you a blue ribbon but unfortunately I’m all out so you’ll have to settle for patting yourself on the back. Go ahead, you’ve earned it.

        1. Pretty sure raspberries is Tony’s sock.

      5. “…Rs have and will always have the advantage in the bullshit electoral college…”

        Keeps lefty TDS-addled shits like you whining.

      6. mostly, we act like people in Wyoming are actual people who have their own self-interest and do not with to live by California rules. Blue city and blue state after blue city and blue state turns to shit, and you’re wondering why others don’t want to join in.

      7. the electoral college is a vital check against tyranny of he masses and a few populous states exerting unchecked rule on the rest of the republic.

      8. Everything is so terrible and unfair, ras. Cry some more.

      9. Wanting the popular vote just shows you don’t understand the purpose of the electoral college.

      10. We don’t know that though. It’s analogous to saying “if we just had 3 periods in football, Brady wouldn’t win as much.” However, people would change the way they act and situations would’ve ended differently. Anyway, the presidency should have never gotten this important. Eliminating the Electoral college is the symptom of a larger problem of big government.

    3. You have the wrong culprit. It is Donald Trump that has fomented an internal split in the Republican Party, making it unlikely they will be successful at the national level anymore.

      It is Trump, along with his cronies, Giuliani, Lin Wood, Sidney Powell, and “the pillow guy” who went down to Georgia and convinced conservative voters not to bother voting in the Senate runoffs.

      1. Still waiting on that fire extinguisher story you kept pushing for a month.

        1. WK is not wrong. You stupid motherfuckers basically gave the Senate to the libs. If Trump would have just shut the fuck up 20% of the time and if stupid cocksuckers like you didn’t demand total loyalty, he would’ve easily won. You did this to yourself but you still show up here every. fucking. day to cry like the little bitch you are.

          1. Me? I don’t live in Georgia dummy. Also, when have I ever demanded total loyalty dummy? Also, where is the fire extinguisher facts?

            Amazing watching the leftists so mad today. it’s been 48 hours. You’re still crying.

          2. “WK is not wrong…”

            WK is wrong, and so are you, you slimy TDS-addled pile of shit.

            1. You better go take your Droxy, Sevo. You’re don’t want to have another episode.

              1. “You’re don’t”

                This is what happens when you get so mad that you fire up all your sockpuppets sarc.

            2. You need a new schtick. I’m sure you can get that pea-sized brain of your to cough up something more creative if you try hard enough.

              1. It’s probably pretty cathartic though, telling you fascists where to go.

          3. Never too late to use bullets! Bernie and Maxine Water's approved. We can form a mob. Beat the shit of out them, and then tell them they aren't welcome. Then we can be bailed out the same day and get right back to beating the shit out of people - that one is Kamala Harris approved. Or we could take this to the supreme court, and if the supreme court doesn't do what we want - we can threaten them - That's Chuck Schumer approved!

          4. Out come all your sockpuppets eh Tony?

            1. fuck off tulpa

      2. Stuff your TDS up your ass.

        1. Truth about what Trump has done to sabotage your party hurts.

          1. “Truth about what Trump has done to sabotage your party hurts.”

            TDS is not limited to lefty shits like you.

          2. I know Trump increased the percentages of Blacks and Latinx voting for the GOP, and that his own vote count increased by seven million over the previous election, and that the Democrats actually lost seats in the house, and the political establishment and the corporate and social media united to defeat him; but I have a narrative to push, dammit!

          3. Gained 10 million votes abd increased percentages under minorities?

          4. Wow, you really don’t get it. The GOP is pretty much dead to most conservatives I know. There’s just one purple uniparty, there’s no difference between Dems and GOP anymore. You’re welcome to them.

    4. Don’t worry, the Democrats have found a way to make sure the Republicans will never again win a Presidential election. And since there’s no other way to select the leader of a country except by voting, they’re all set.

      There's always bullets! From voting box to bullet box! It'll be grand!

    5. Considering republicans make up a rapidly diminishing minority of the voting populace, they shouldn’t win another presidency. That’s how elections work.

      1. The D’s will retard their way right back out of power. That’s how these things work.

        You can’t be this dumb.

        1. Normally true, but Trump has broken the Republican Party.

          1. The Republican party sucked before Trump and they’re right back to sucking now that they got rid of him.

        2. You are probably right about that one, with one caveat:

          the GOP is the beneficiary of very steep affirmative action built into our current electoral system. Without that, they would never hold meaningful power again.

          They are the minority. They no longer have a party platform, so I can’t even begin to analyze their appeal to Americans outside of Trump cultists.

          1. Hey, stolen Valor so failed elementary civics. Lol.

            1. At least I know how to analyze and debate. You waste all this time on politics and most of the time you respond with ad hominem and nothing else.

              Almost as if you are losing these debates. Over. and over. and over.

              Yet another trait you mimic from your cult daddy.

      2. You'd like that wouldn't you! LOL. It's not going to happen, but if it did, you'd be begging Trump to come back, after Democrats are taxing the shit out of you because you worked too hard, made too much money, or was born the wrong race. Even you, an incompetent loser, with no significant talent or abilities, will not enjoy being taxed because of innate genetic characteristics you were born with. The government will run your life, literally, with social programs, and even you will eventually get tired of it.

        1. That’s the problem with leftists, they think they’re a part of the ruling class and carry the can for them, but at the end of the day, they are looked down upon just as much as the Trump supporters.

      3. What were the numbers just 4 years ago stolen valor?

        1. Still a minority, dumb fuck.

          Why are you giving me these lay ups?

          1. Lol. When they controlled house, senate, presidency, governorships, and state legislature?

            Holy shit youre fucking retarded.

            1. And still lost the presidential popular vote.

              All you are doing is showing, better than I do, that the current state of our electoral system is a big affirmative action program for hicks.

              1. All you are doing is showing, better than I do, that the current state of our electoral system is a big affirmative action program for hicks.

                For someone who’s been beating himself off to “MUH CONSTUHTOOSHUNZ!” the last few weeks, you sure show quite a bit of contempt for the rules on elections that it laid out.

                The only people who give a fuck about the “presidential popular vote” are ones who bitch about “mob rule” out of one side of their mouth while demanding it as part of the electoral process with the other.

    6. And Bunion had better quit bad-mouthing New Caesar, if he knows what’s good for him. This article is damn close to Sedition.

      Why does Bunion hate Unity?!!

  3. You know what would help? Just a bit?

    If people in the media stopped miscalling the Washington’s Birthday holiday “Presidents Day”.

    1. Too much white male privilege.

    2. You’ll have to talk to your federal government about that. They are the ones who changed it.

      1. No, I won’t, because no, they did not.

        Some states have renamed the day, but Federal law still specifies the day as Washington’s Birthday.

        1. Correct. I noticed that on the NWS website this morning.

      2. When I was a kid we had both Lincoln and Washington’s birthday holidays. At some point they were combined into one and called President’s Day and the holiday fell on the day designated for Washington.

        1. I am pretty sure that I remember this being a federal holiday thing – combining Lincoln and Washington’s birthdays in order to create MLK day as a national holiday without changing the number of national holidays.

          1. These are the official federal holidays:

            New Year’s Day Friday January 1st, 2021
            Birthday of Martin Luther King, Jr. Monday January 18th, 2021
            Washington’s Birthday Monday February 15th, 2021
            Memorial Day (103 days) Monday May 31st, 2021
            Independence Day † Monday July 5th, 2021
            Labor Day Monday September 6th, 2021
            Columbus Day Monday October 11th, 2021
            Veterans Day Thursday November 11th, 2021
            Thanksgiving Day Thursday November 25th, 2021
            Christmas Day † Friday December 24th, 2021

            So, at least according to FederalPay.org, Presidents day is officially Washington’s birthday and Lincoln is just SOL.

            1. Ah. Where is the Lincoln Project when you really need them, eh?

  4. “Presidents aren’t saints.”

    Ummmmmmmmm, are you familiar with Barack Obama? He literally won a Nobel Peace Prize after being in office for like a year. And his two terms were very profitable for billionaires like Reason.com’s benefactor Charles Koch.

    Time will tell if Biden measures up to that, although he’s already off to a fantastic start with his liberation of Orange Hitler’s concentration camps.

  5. Reaspn hated the last guy and some even endorsed the new guy (52 EOs in a month), continued lockdowns, a new announcement on sweeping gun control and registries, ran on GND….

    Sorry if this article doesn’t come across as serious.

    Biden and the DNC are corporations in bed with the media and the establishment…. and Reason knowingly ignored the loud warnings of a biden administration.

    They chose open authoritarianism over mean tweets.

    1. By “ignored” you mean wrote articles about how much the Biden Administration plans to spend, and years of coverage of Harris’ abusive record as a prosecutor.

      1. LOL. Sadly you really believe this. Count up the anti trump articles in the last 2 months alone. Now count up the even tepidly anti biden ones. I’ll wait.

        1. and look at the traffic it brought from the trump worshipers in the comments…. they write about what people have an interest in….. and trying to overturn an election, while inciting a mob descending on the capital….. that catches people’s attention.

          1. “…and look at the traffic it brought from the trump worshipers in the comments…”

            Got any evidence of anyone worshiping him, TDS-addled lefty shit?
            And your inability to spell “protest” is also noted as a sign of your limited intellect.

          2. Except… if they… were… trying to overturn… an election… going about it unarmed… would be a… retarded… way to do it…

            Sorry to… piss… on… your narrative…

            1. Unarmed. Like the guy who had a truck full of weapons and Molotov cocktails.

              1. Oh? The people at the capitol were armed with weapons and molotov cocktails, Wormtongue? Because that’s what you’re saying.
                You’re not misrepresenting (lying about) things as usual, are you?

                Maybe you should give us a citation for a change.

                1. One of the DC rioters had guns and Molotov cocktails in his automobile. It’s a fact no matter how you want to deny it.

                  https://abcnews.go.com/US/dc-protester-arrested-11-molotov-cocktails-guns-list/story?id=75211356

                  So don’t say the rioters didn’t have weapons.

                  1. “One of the DC rioters had guns and Molotov cocktails in his automobile”

                    So his automobile was armed?

                    “So don’t say the rioters didn’t have weapons”

                    The automobile was rioting?

                    Does this mean I’m armed because I have a shotgun in my closet?

                  2. Oh wow. If you’re going to try to lie don’t be so retarded about it.

                    He didn’t have any of that on him when he attended the protest or entered the Capitol building. Even your own fucking article (which is trying to manufacture outrage as hard as it can) says that. The cops only found the stuff after he left the protest and went to his truck.

                    While he was at the event he was unarmed like everyone else.

                    Seriously, how fucking stupid are you? A toddler would see through the rhetoric you’re trying to pull.
                    This must be what Hannah Arendt meant when she wrote about the stupidity and banality of evil.

                  3. Guns don’t kill people. Automobiles with guns kill people.

                    1. Lol. That’s how dumb Dee really is.

              2. Maybe that was just moonshine and his usual truck accessories.
                How many did he deploy at the insurrection, vs. say a normal night of mostly peaceful protesting in Portland?

                1. He was at the Portland protests, too? Seems unlikely.

                  Oh, you are trying to deflect by talking about riots in Portland…

                  1. And you’re trying to pretend a mile is away is on his person.

          3. >while inciting a mob descending on the capital

            Citation needed.

        2. All those Trump articles were written in reaction to current events. Trump and his cronies were continually up to nefarious shit. As Trump himself said, “I like to throw a lot of balls up in the air.”

          1. So Biden wasn’t r unning for election last year? Because if he was, your comment “were written in reaction to current events” would make no sense.

            You preferred an open authoritarian. Own it.

            1. Biden’s campaign was extremely low key, as many people have noted, including alt-right commenters here and Trump himself.

              1. You better SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT BIDEN! or he'll have an executive order to address you, bitch.

              2. Biden was wheeled out for one mild public statement a day for about 30 minutes, to read the teleprompter, or more likely, to record a message in however many takes it took.

                Other candidates should copy his campaign style in the future, since it produced a record vote count.

                1. Absolutely Correct.

                  Joe Biden says he doesn't even know what he is signing and Nancy Pelosi says sign it anyway:

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fP5c82dnCQ

                2. Yes, they should, if running against an offensive blowhard.

                  Trump might very well be serving his second term right now if he could have reined in his awful personality.

                  1. I can’t imagine that would have helped him with the code that you used to steal the election.

          2. Of course virtually all the allegations of “nefarious shit” fell apart under examination, but I won’t mention that. Nor will I mention any specifics which could be easily refuted.

  6. “Make America Great Again” is a nationalist slogan, and works perfectly well without Trump. It has, in fact, been used by politicians on both sides of the political spectrum.

    Funny how it wasn’t racist when Bill Clinton used it.

    Conservatives don’t worship politicians to the same extent that progressives do. You won’t see a Republican’s face with HOPE emblazoned under it in giant letters. You won’t see conservative politician prayer candles, or see conservatives singing hymns to their leaders.

    We either already have a God, or we just want to be left alone.

    1. This is the biggest load of bullshit.

      Yeah, I remember all the people sporting Biden and Obama flags on their trucks and on their boats doing parades.

      What an idiot.

        1. Ouch. How do I refute that. Where’s #II? I need your propaganda expertise.

          1. Crying like that is working

            /s

        2. You can dig the depths of the internet to find anything. I could look out of my window a few weeks ago and see a Trump flag. They were everywhere. No digging required.

          You are part of a cult. You are not rational, and need help. All of you. From the outside, it is apparent to everyone. You are embarrassing yourselves continually.

          1. “You can dig the depths of the internet to find anything”
            Lol, even the truth. You can also find that stuff scattered everywhere at the top of the internet too, but that probably doesn’t help your narrative.

            Now can I get an irrelevant analogy about election paraphernalia still up from November?

            “I could look out of my window a few weeks ago and see a Trump flag. They were everywhere.”
            Thanks.

            Now can I get a frothy rant about how everyone who doesn’t swallow your dubious narrative, is somehow a gullible dupe of the political equivalent of John Belushi?

            “You are part of a cult. You are not rational, and need help. All of you. From the outside, it is apparent to everyone. You are embarrassing yourselves continually.”
            Perfect. *chef’s kiss*

          2. How deep is the NYT stolen valor?

          3. You can dig the depths of the internet to find anything. I could look out of my window a few weeks ago and see a Trump flag. They were everywhere. No digging required.

            A Trump flag? Is that seriously your rebuttal to the examples above?

          4. “You can dig the depths of the internet to find anything”

            My new reply to everything you post.

          5. More evidence that you don’t really know what a cult is dummy.

            1. I know.

              http://cultresearch.org/help/characteristics-associated-with-cults/

              “The group displays excessively zealous and unquestioning commitment to its leader, and (whether he is alive or dead) regards his belief system, ideology, and practices as the Truth, as law.” –see trump flags, trump rallies, trump churches, etc..

              “The group has a polarized, us-versus-them mentality, which may cause conflict with the wider society.” –Everyone hates you guys. Seriously. The only people who can stand Trump supporters are other Trump supporters.

              “The leader is not accountable to any authorities (unlike, for example, teachers, military commanders, or ministers, priests, monks, and rabbis of mainstream religious denominations).” — Or impeachments, congressional subpoenas, inspector generals, the constitution….

              “The group teaches or implies that its supposedly exalted ends justify whatever means it deems necessary. This may result in members participating in behaviors or activities they would have considered reprehensible or unethical before joining the group (e.g., lying to family or friends, or collecting money for bogus charities).” –Or orphaning Mexican toddlers purposefully.

              “The group is preoccupied with making money.” –Stop the Steal was one big con. How come you guys never made any commetn about Trump pardoning Bannon after he stole all that Trump supporter donations? He pardoned him because he does not care about you guys. You are the mark.

              I could go on, but why should I? The broader press and serious journal entries in the field of political science all refer to Trump campaign and the current GOP as a personality cult. It is what it is. Sorry you don’t like the title. Regardless, you will wear it.

              1. Your delusions are noted.

                1. “I know you are but what am I” is the peak trump cultist come back. This is seriously the best they can muster.

                  1. “I know you are but what am I”

                    I didn’t say you’re in a cult. Your rage has you confused again.

              2. So youre in a cult of stolen valor?

                1. I have given you an extremely easy path to money and honor on this topic. Funny how you never put your money where your mouth is, just like your cult leader.

      1. This is the biggest load of bullshit.

        Speaking from experience, fertilizer boy?

      2. “This is the biggest load of bullshit.”

        No, that was your breakfast, lefty shit.

      3. “This is the biggest load of bullshit.
        Yeah, I remember all the people sporting Biden and Obama flags on their trucks and on their boats doing parades.

        The internet remembers: https://www.politico.com/story/2007/12/messianic-rhetoric-infuses-obama-rallies-007281

    2. Obama had teachers having their kids sing hymns about him in class. Look at the adoration teacher Jill biden got for a kindergarten art project nobody could see yesterday.

        1. LOL. Wow this should be good. Why? Because I didn’t ignore what happened during the Obama years (this incident made national news).

          1. “this incident made national news”

            You need to get out more.

            1. So are you saying it didn’t happen?

              1. I don’t care if it happened or not. Music is a beautiful thing, though.

                1. ♫“He said red, yellow, black or white/All are equal in his sight. Barack Hussein Obama.”♫

                  1. Apparently mtrueman is a fan of this kind of music and you’ve hurt his feelings.

                    1. Wasn’t even easy to dance to. Also needed more cowbell.

                    2. I’ve recently come to appreciate Led Zeppelin’s When the Levee Breaks. The song was written almost a 100 years ago about an actual flood in Mississippi, and Led Zeppelin’s version dates back some 50 years, but it’s powerful stuff. Cryin won’t help ya, prayin won’t do ya no good.

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYThZwcDUXk&t=310s

                      I was interested to discover a new genre on Youtube of black Americans filming themselves supposedly reacting to a first time listen to various Led Zep numbers.

                  2. I think Michelle and Melania were equal in hotness. But Obama trumps Trump in the presidential pets department. I think the reason why Trump never inspired school children is that he appeals to a much older, adult diaper demographic.

                    1. Or maybe it was those Orange Man Bad pull out classes.

                2. Clearly you do you rounded up yet another of your sockpuppets to whine about it.

        2. Yes he does because then he could have enjoyed the children’s hymns.
          It was beautiful listening to the children glorifying the name of our secular saviour, Barack Obama.

          https://www.huffpost.com/entry/school-children-singing-t_b_300126

          1. “One song that the children were taught quotes directly from the spiritual “Jesus Loves the Little Children,” though Jesus’ name is replaced with Obama’s: “He said red, yellow, black or white/All are equal in his sight. Barack Hussein Obama.”

            It was marvelous!

            1. The spirit of Beethoven wept.

      1. She is getting some good press and seems to like the spotlight. She is playing the down to earth type playing with the dogs on the White House lawn and getting snuggly with her husband. ‘Aunt Jill’

        Melania intentionally avoided it and came off as kinda cold and bitchy. I don’t blame her for it. My impression has been that it was not the job she signed up for when she married a rich older man.

        1. My impression has been that it was not the job she signed up for when she married a rich older man.

          Yeah, I’m pretty sure the job she signed up for was “arm candy at meet and greets with other rich old men” not “media punching bag” which is what she was going to be no matter what she did during her time as FLOTUS.

        2. So you’re going to just follow the Media narrative, ignore the languages she spoke, the fact she made it from a small town nowhere to NYC on her own, etc? Okay. Good for you. I find her story far more impressive than a teaching doctorate and marrying a senator.

          1. Jesus, JesseAz. Echospinner was being sympathetic toward Melania. Calm down with your alt-right victimhood.

            1. OOooooh, back into your alt-right narrative. LOL. When you take the mask on (which was transparent to everyone) you really take it off.

              1. What mask? As a non-partisan libertarian I have always been offended by President Trump worshipers such as yourself.

                1. I think CALLCALs (Thanks, I invented it myself and no it isn’t a forced meme) tend to forget that libertarianism is a broad spectrum philosophy that can embrace important ideas like authoritarianism and autocracy as well.

                  Libertarianism can’t be just a bunch of losers barking about “muh freedoms”, but must include dynamic individuals who recognize the important role government plays in society, and understand that unrestricted liberties may not be in the people’s best interests.

                  People like Chemjeff.

        3. and when Jill becomes Edith Wilson 2.0, which she will, we’ll see how the spotlight feels.

          1. Edith Wilson was able to rule from a duck blind. Kamala would blow the whistle on that.

        4. “Melania intentionally avoided it and came off as kinda cold and bitchy.”

          That only adds to her allure. Melania is no doubt my favorite Trump, especially after the leaked tape of her complaining about Christmas. Do you know, by the way, whether Donald Sr, is still sleeping with her, or has she moved on to younger, hotter companions?

      2. George W Bush had students praying to a cardboard cutout of his likeness.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxdt_f0hwUg

        ‘Jesus Camp’ was a real thing.

        1. Of course turd is lying once again; Bush did nothing of the sort and we have no idea why that woman is doing so.
          But that won’t stop turd from shoveling more bullshit.
          Fuck off and die, turd.

          1. It is every bit as true as this:

            Obama had teachers having their kids sing hymns about him in class.

            And better grammar too.

            1. But grammar is racist, right?

            2. So your lie is as good as the other lie?
              Ken’s go your number; that requires stupidity, not just dishonesty.

    3. “Conservatives don’t worship politicians to the same extent that progressives do.”

      There are churches who promote Trump. There are conservatives who literally believe Trump is steered by Jehovah’s hand.

      1. Citation needed. Preferably mainstream coverage like the Obama ones above.

        1. Are you kidding? There are current US Senators who claim Trump was sent by Jesus.

          Look at this stupid Alabama hayseed:

          https://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/story/news/2019/12/09/tommy-tuberville-god-sent-donald-trump/2633548001/

          1. Thanks for the leg work.

            1. “…Preferably mainstream coverage like the Obama ones above.”

              Yep, the TDS-addled shit will grasp at any straw he can find.

          2. Hard to decide what’s dumber: that christians seen divine influence in politics, or that woke professors see 2+2=5.

            Actually, maybe not so hard.

            1. Both are pretty dumb. One tried to overthrow our republic.

              1. And the other did. But he called it Democracy.

                1. They really need to bring back civics courses.

                  You know what, go ahead. Go ahead and tell me how the republic was overthrown through elections.

                  1. There was no election for him to lose. Or win.
                    The election was a bloody pantomime.

                  2. Says the guy who above doesn’t understand how the senate works. Lol. God damn man.

                  3. Purest election ever.

              2. And succeeded…
                And then they called anyone who protested the fact an “insurrectionist” which seems to be the Woke equivalent of the old Soviet “counterrevolutionary” smear.

      2. “There are churches who promote Trump. There are conservatives who literally believe Trump is steered by Jehovah’s hand.”

        Substitute “Obama”, TDS-addled asshole, and you’ll find that was also true.

        1. Yes, I realize there was a personality cult of Obama, too.

          Two wrongs don’t make a right.

          1. “Two wrongs don’t make a right.”

            Nor does one, you pathetic piece of TDS-addled shit.

          2. Thank goodness for “Both sides!” which allows me to masquerade as neutral and balanced. It allows me to continually attack “one side” and defend the other while fending off valid arguments of impartially.

            1. You do realize that Sevo was the one doing the “both sides”, right? He is the one who brought up the “other side” (Obama), rather than defend or cede his point on its own merits.

              1. Sevo pointed out the hypocrisy that it was okay for Obama but not for a Republican, which you sometimes mislabel as “whataboutism”.
                Sevo should have named pastor Jeremiah Wright, but I guess he erroneously assumed you guys would know who he was referencing.

                What White Knight of the KKK was doing was different. It was “Both Sides” which is often known as a “a retreat to nowhere”.

                They’re not the same thing.

      3. “Conservatives don’t worship politicians to the same extent that progressives do.”

        There are churches who promote Trump. There are conservatives who literally believe Trump is steered by Jehovah’s hand.

        That means they are worshiping Jehovah, not Trump. Try again?

  7. Journalists, exposed during the Trump years as insane partisans, can and have returned to worshiping the president. The only thing standing between full-on hive mind influencer Biden/Harris idolatry and the inevitable imperial presidency it advocates is Twitter memes. It won’t be enough.

  8. It has become something decidedly different over the years, with each president becoming more powerful than the next last.

    FTFY. If each president was “becoming more powerful than the next” then that would mean that the presidency was decreasing in power. Although that might have to happen someday when a sitting president goes full Emperor Palpatine and disbands Congress and declares themselves God-King.

  9. “It has become something decidedly different over the years, with each president becoming more powerful than the next.“

    I believe you meant “last,” not “next.”

  10. Author hasn’t been to Virginia in a very long time. Might wanna try Ohio or a red state for example.

  11. “That cognitive dissonance isn’t going away anytime soon,”

    Ok Rev, now tell us how “progress” is inevitable and that resistance is useless.

    Just to provide an excellent example of “cognitive dissonance.” Once “your boy” is in charge, he [or someone like him] will always be in charge.

  12. “Later in the 20th century, it’s the conservatives that see their political salvation in a strong executive branch.”

    Thus their attraction to authoritarian strongmen like Putin, Trump, Erdogan, and Bolsonaro.

    1. Thus turd continues to lie.
      Fuck off and die, turd.

    2. Stalin, Mao, Castro, Pot, Chavez, Obama…

    3. Fortunately 30 executive actions in one month a totally not indicative of a strongman ruling by decree.

      1. 52 you retarded fuck.

        1. Oh parody. Apologies.

          1. Dumbshit.

            1. Actually the parody is doing a good job of making us all laugh at how dumb you are.

            2. Exactly, because 22 of those executive actions were undoing the mistakes in democracy committed by the Republicans, so they don’t count.

              Jesse is too absorbed in his cult of events to understand metaphorical and relativistic truths.

              1. Right; Ironically the “undoing” was done by Trump.

            3. He is a mimic of you Moreno than parody.

    4. Trump was the least authoritarian in decades. He refused to instantiate martial law for COVID, He took all efforts necessary to prevent getting involved in foreign wars. One of the first things congress did and he signed was "Tax cuts" which is the exact opposite of democrats who think that they are entitled to your money first, and if they have to give it back for any reason they call it "subsidizing." Democrats are the party of the establishment, endless taxation, endless social services, zero limits for what government can do and legislate, and are now, right now, being seized upon by the radical left, the woke, looking to force equality extremism on everyone despite how we are all innately different. Gender equality. Income equality. Equity, Equality for sex, race, gender, perceived class, to the point of socialism/marxism. They have Ibraim X Kendi, telling us that they need to be racist in the opposite direction to combat old racism towards blacks, they want reparations, they hate billionaires and corporations (until those billionaires and corporations are on their side), and they are looking for force their view on the entirety of America, by whatever means necessary. Now that could mean stealing an election. It could mean lying about a president getting peed on in Russia. It could mean a endless hit campaign for 4 years to get back in power. It could mean approval of rioting for a whole year to pressure political opponents. By whatever means necessary, has always been their credo.

      1. But to progressives, Trump was the most heinous type of dictator because he forced them not to institute the totalitarian system they crave.

        1. Projection for the WIN!

  13. The doctrine of regulation and legislation by •master minds•, in whose judgment and will all the people gladly and quietly acquiesce, has been too glaringly apparent at Washington during these last ten years. Were it possible to find •master minds• so unselfish, so willing to decide unhesitatingly against their own personal interests or private prejudices; men almost godlike in their ability to hold the scales of Justice with an even hand, such a government might be to the interest of the country, but there are none such on our political horizon, and we cannot expect a complete reversal of all the teachings of history.

    FDR – ‘Home rule’ speech – radio address – March 1930

    1. Thanks for an awesome quote, JFree!!!

      Too bad that FDR didn’t listen to his own wisdom… I have seen more than a few people do that (fail to listen to their own wisdom), up front and personal, sad to say…

      1. That whole speech is a very surprising one. In synch with what he thought as Gov and started campaigning on. At odds with everything after March 1933. And there’s another speech just before the election (Portland speech) that indicates he changed his perspective during the campaign itself because the important issues were no longer about alcohol.

        That ‘Prohibition’ – the nationalization of policy re alcohol – is very much a precursor to the New Deal – the nationalization of policy re the economy.

        At any rate, I always think the messiness of real history is more interesting than the black-and-white morality tales we like to turn history into.

    2. FDR was the worst president in US history. Which is all the rabid and extreme far left, such as AOC, worship him by naming their policies after him. FDR was a socialist, and greatly strengthened the federal government's power over the entirety of the nation, whose policies echo today, and whose philosophies will bring us to civil war 2.0.

  14. Wait Billy. Did you say that Trump rolling back Obama’s executive orders damaged the environment? So funny. All hail Obama’s planet-saving executive orders!

  15. Donald Trump built a national debt so big (even before the pandemic) that it’ll weigh down the economy for years

    Trump had the third-biggest primary deficit growth, 5.2% of GDP, behind only George W. Bush (11.7%) and Abraham Lincoln (9.4%). Bush, of course, not only passed a big tax cut, as Trump has, but also launched two wars, which greatly inflated the defense budget. Lincoln had to pay for the Civil War. By contrast, Trump’s wars have been almost entirely of the political variety.

    Trump answered by falsely claiming that the U.S. was starting to pay off the national debt before the pandemic, and he claimed that future economic growth would let it do so. “I think you’re going to see tremendous growth, David, and the growth is going to get it done,” Trump said.

    Two months later, when Congress finally approved $900 billion of economic stimulus that is being financed with debt, Trump challenged Congress to spend — and borrow — even more. Then he went golfing.

    Bankruptcy is what the King of Debt does.

    https://ctmirror.org/2021/01/17/donald-trump-built-a-national-debt-so-big-even-before-the-pandemic-that-itll-weigh-down-the-economy-for-years/

    1. You don’t seem to understand the things you read, but there are a number of explanations for that.

      Is there some website that tells you to post stupid shit, or do you just regurgitate it on your own?

      1. No, but after I left yesterday you continued your lying by claiming that TARP was an Obama creation:

        Ken Shultz
        February.14.2021 at 11:17 am
        Obama took office at the worst of the banking crisis, and the stock market reacted positively to banks and Wall Street investors being bailed out of their bad investments by the Obama administration.

        Are you saying that using the taxpayers’ future paychecks to bail out banks, car companies, and Wall Street is something you support because it helps banks and stock owners get rich?

        It was Bush/Hank Paulson that bailed out the big banks like Bank of America, Citi, Morgan, Wells Fargo, Goldman etc

        You lie like Trump does.

        1. What was that, turd?
          “‘A real missed opportunity’: Andrew Yang swings at Obama’s moves to bail out Wall Street over average Americans during the financial crash”
          […]
          “…In a bid to prevent the economy from hurtling off a cliff, Obama supported a $700 billion bailout package in September 2008 to bolster and stabilize the financial services industry…”
          https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/andrew-yang-criticize-obama-handling-financial-crisis-economy-wall-street-2020-1-1028847191

        2. I didn’t say TARP was an Obama creation–in that quote or anywhere else. I said that Obama used to TARP to bail out Wall Street investors, banks, and car companies.

          How embarrassing for you that you can’t understand what you read and you’re so stupid, you don’t even realize you’re making a fool of yourself by misquoting someone!

          Are you claiming that Obama didn’t bail out Wall Street with TARP funds?

          Are you claiming that Obama didn’t use TARP to bail out GM?

          How did you get to be so stupid?

          1. GM, yes.

            But the first $350 billion went to Wall St in October 2008. Namely the very Wall St banks I cited.

            Bank of America and Citi each got $45 billion in 2008. The other six banks got up to $25 billion in 2008;

            https://money.cnn.com/2008/12/19/news/economy/tarp_tale_of_first350b/

            1. And Obama supported those, turd; you’ve been busted yet again for shoveling bullshit.
              You are incapable of posting without doing so.
              Fuck off and die; make kids everywhere safe.

              1. exactly. McCain had one chance to win: come out against TARP and get the Tea Party momentum behind him. Instead he flew back to DC to help pass TARP, along with Obama.

            2. So, your post stating I claimed that Obama created TARP was a lie, and, not just that, it was a stupid lie. A lie that could be easily disproven.

              Moreover, my post was absolutely correct and true.

              The stock market reacted positively to banks and Wall Street investors being bailed out of their bad investments by the Obama administration.

              Obama bailed out banks, car companies, and Wall Street.

              All of this is true, as well as the observation that you’re either dishonest, have reading comprehension problem, or are suffering from a mixture of the two. Because being ignorant of the facts doesn’t explain why you’d post the actual text and then lie about its contents.

        3. The irony of you bringing up TARP which is one of the biggest narrative shifts on how Obama reduced the deficit. Bush was responsible for the outlays of TARP on the analysis you love to post, while Obama was responsible for the inlays. TARP is never removed from the deficit analysis between the two despite TARP actually being deficit neutral, instead you split the outlays vs inlays to create a false impression of deficits.

          1. Shrike was comparing stock market growth during the Obama administration to stock market growth during the Trump administration–and failing to account for both Obama coming into office at the beginning of the banking crisis and Trump leaving office towards the end of the pandemic and the lockdowns.

            You don’t want to waste too much effort or energy on someone like Shrike, who may or may not be an ignorant liar, but who quite obviously can’t understand what he reads–not even to save himself from embarrassment. Asking Shrike to provide a link to what he’s talking about has been more than sufficient to debunk whatever he’s saying about it–every time I can remember.

            He simply does not understand what he reads.

            1. Timing is important no question.

              So you don’t give Trump credit for the “lowest UE rate ever” when he assumed office after a record 84 month streak of Obama job creation then?

              90% of those jobs were Obama jobs yet Trump likes to take credit for the 2010-2019 boom.

              1. “So you don’t give Trump credit for the “lowest UE rate ever” when he assumed office after a record 84 month streak of Obama job creation then?”

                Yep, he is simply too stupid to understand:
                “Unemployment rate falls to its lowest level in 50 years”
                […]
                “The U.S. unemployment rate fell to its lowest level in 50 years and 136,000 jobs were added in September, the Department of Labor said Friday.
                The unemployment rate, now at 3.5%, fell by .2% since August. Some experts say this should help quell fears of an upcoming recession.”
                https://abcnews.go.com/Business/unemployment-rate-falls-lowest-level-50-years/story?id=66058946

                1. Again, Shrike is a guy who has no idea what he’s talking about.

                  There’s nothing behind anything he says. It’s all just random lashing out at people he doesn’t like.

                  And the thing is, he doesn’t understand what’s wrong with that. He probably thinks that’s what we’re doing, too.

                  He’s a dumb person.

                  If he was banned for linking to something horrific and embarrassing, that may be because he’s not smart enough to realize that’s likely to get him banned. If he calls himself, “Sarah Palin’s Buttplug”, it may be because he’s not smart enough to understand that’s likely to make people think he’s a hyper-partisan idiot. Add that to all the stuff he doesn’t know, believes in completely, and his inability to understand what he reads, and the most reasonable explanation is that he’s down somewhere near the bottom left side of the bell curve. These are not behaviors I would associate with smart people.

          2. yup, the one time crisis spending bailout becomes the new baseline.

          3. Obama’s ARPA — 3x that of TARP….

            Truly amazing how lefty-biased propaganda steers the focus in this country.

      2. “Is there some website that tells you to post stupid shit, or do you just regurgitate it on your own?”

        So long as it’s a lie, rely on turd to post it.

        1. In his defense, when he quoted me, it just seems that he’s not smart enough to understand what he reads.

          I think he genuinely believed that my comment said that Obama created TARP–even though it doesn’t say that.

          Again, he is not smart enough to understand what he reads–to the point that he will quote it before he “lies” about what it says. He could have lied about what I said yesterday–without quoting it–to save himself the embarrassment, but he’s not smart enough to do that.

          It’s like the difference between someone picking their nose at the table because he wants to disgust everybody and someone being so dumb, he doesn’t even realize that picking his nose at the table disgusts everyone around him.

          In this comment, if he were trying to make himself look like a liar, he couldn’t have done any better. That’s a symptom of stupidity more than dishonesty. He might be dishonest, too, but that isn’t the driving force behind this. He’s also really, really dumb.

          1. You said “Obama bailed out the Wall St banks” which is patently untrue.

            He was a US Senator when the Wall St bailout occurred and was no more responsible for it than the other 60-70 Senators who voted for TARP was.

            1. “You said “Obama bailed out the Wall St banks” which is patently untrue.”

              Ken, you’re right. The links are right there and turd continues to shovel the bullshit.
              It is difficult to believe that dishonesty alone accounts for such activity; stupidity has to be a part of it.


              1. Date Financial Institution City State Amount
                10/28/2008 Wells Fargo & Co. San Francisco Calif. $25,000,000,000
                10/28/2008 State Street Corp. Boston Mass. $2,000,000,000
                10/28/2008 Bank of America Corp.1 Charlotte N.C. $15,000,000,000
                10/28/2008 JPMorgan Chase & Co. New York N.Y. $25,000,000,000
                10/28/2008 Citigroup Inc. New York N.Y. $25,000,000,000
                10/28/2008 Morgan Stanley New York N.Y. $10,000,000,000
                10/28/2008 Goldman Sachs Group Inc. New York N.Y. $10,000,000,000

                READ THE FU”CKING DATES, you moron. All 2008 when Bush/Paulson were handing out TARP

                https://money.cnn.com/news/specials/storysupplement/bankbailout/

                The list goes on for several hundred more banks in 2008.

                1. Ken, you’re right. The links are right there and turd continues to shovel the bullshit.
                  It is difficult to believe that dishonesty alone accounts for such activity; stupidity has to be a part of it.

                  1. He’s so dumb, he thinks that because Bush bailed out banks, that means Obama didn’t also bail out banks later?!

                    That’s just plain dumb.

                    It’s sort of like that scene in Tropic Thunder when they say, “You should never go full retard”. The character is explaining that in order to play a retarded guy, “Simple Jack”, he had to actually work at thinking like a retard. Towards the end, he’s laughing his head off every time he farts in the bathtub.

                    If you’re a reasonable and intelligent person, you can’t just turn a switch and think like Shrike, but I don’t think he has any idea how other people here perceive him. Before he realized he was a laughing stock, he’d need to understand why. He doesn’t realize people think he just tumbled out of a tiny car with a rubber nose like Bozo. He thinks people are taking him seriously–even though he can’t take a single step without tripping over his gigantic clown shoes.

            2. “You said “Obama bailed out the Wall St banks” which is patently untrue.”

              Obama took office on January 20, 2009.

              Here’s a bank that received a $22 million bailout from TARP on December 11, 2009.

              https://projects.propublica.org/bailout/entities/820-first-community-financial-partners-inc

              There were plenty more under Obama’s supervision.

              Obama bailed out plenty of banks. I’ll link the list of all those TARP recipients below so people can go find the others for themselves if they want. Just click on the bank, and you’ll get the details–including the date of the bailout.

                1. Damn, what a brutal beatdown of the dildo.

  16. “On This Presidents Day, Stop Worshiping the Imperial Presidency. Presidents aren’t saints. They aren’t monarchs. They aren’t celebrities. And they aren’t your friends. “

    The progressives’ hatred of Donald Trump was mostly a function of their contempt for average Americans, with this statement being more or less emblematic of the psychosis. In fact, the reason so many average Americans came to see Trump as their champion was because he was treated as a whipping boy for middle America by the press.

    “A whipping boy was a boy educated alongside a prince (or boy monarch) in early modern Europe, who received corporal punishment for the prince’s transgressions in his presence.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whipping_boy

    As the press excoriated Trump in the same terms they used to excoriate average Americans (racist, stupid, homophobic, misogynistic, xenophobic, etc.), average Americans came to see him as their champion against progressives.

    Last week, I linked two analyses showing that of all the people being charged with a crime for what happened during the Capitol riot, only 10% to 15% of them had any ties to right wing organizations of any kind. If people with ties to right wing organizations were more likely to commit a crime during the riot and were more likely to be prosecuted, then the number of right wing radicals in the crowd was miniscule. The crowd was mostly made up of average Americans.

    They were average Americans who supported Trump, however, and that was the real crime in the eyes of progressives and the media; in the eyes of progressives and the media, that was Trump’s real crime–Trump was supported by average Americans, and that is a crime that cannot be tolerated.

    The whole purpose of progressivism is to use the coercive power of the government to force people to make sacrifices for what progressives see as the greater good. Within that system, those who resist forced sacrifice are the enemy–especially average Americans. They want to force you to sacrifice your standard of living on the altar of climate change. They want to force you to sacrifice your free speech and your guns for the greater good as they see it. They want to force you to sacrifice your healthcare. They want to force you to sacrifice your right to make choices for yourself so that they can give others a better life at your expense.

    Trump may not have been a saint, but the enemy of our enemy was our friend, and Trump was right when he said that the Democrats and the press are the enemy of the American people. They’re coming after us, our rights, our liberty, and our standard of living. They hate average Americans, who won’t do or believe or cherish what we’re told. They hate our guts.

    1. They hate average Americans

      We hate lying stupid Trump-tards that support record massive deficits, protectionism and bad trade policy, tearing down peace treaties out of spite for his predecessor, sucking Russian cock while blasting NATO, cozying up to domestic terrorists, and trying to overturn a legitimate election.

      1. When you say “we”, you means progressives?

        Are you claiming that progressives are better than Trump on deficits, protectionism, and bad trade policy?

        Do you have any links for that? Because those claims would be hard for anyone to support–much harder for someone like you who doesn’t understand what he reads.

        1. No. I speak for classic liberals.

          I have admitted that Bernie Sanders has worse policies than even Trump.

          1. LOL

            You speak for people with reading comprehension problems.

          2. “No. I speak for classic liberals.”

            turd cannot post without lying.

          3. Ha! Thanks dildo, that gave me a laugh.

      2. You hate straw men so much that you rely on them.

    2. You are glossing over that Trump’s personality is deeply offensive on its own, aside from who does or does not support him.

      He is much worse than your dismissive “may not have been a saint”. That is why non-partisans such as myself, some commenters here, and some of the Reason staff have disdain for him.

      Our visceral disdain turned out to be justified by his self-serving fable spinning and grifting his supporters during the final months of his presidency, culminating with his half-added attempt to overthrow the Federal government.

      1. Aren’t the things I said about the way Trump was portrayed in the news media, the reason so many average Americans saw him as the champion of middle America, and the contempt the press and the progressives have for average Americans true–regardless of whether Trump’s tweets and behavior were also obnoxious?

        I maintain that the best explanation for why a billionaire playboy, casino magnate from New York City with a foreign trophy wife became the champion of Middle America is because the press excoriated him in the same terms they’d used to excoriate Middle American all during the Obama administration and continuing through four years of Trump’s administration, too.

        Step One: Excoriate Middle America.

        Tell Middle America that they’re racist for being white. Tell them that they’re misogynistic if they oppose abortion. Tell them that they’re xenophobic if they oppose illegal immigration. Tell them that they’re homophobic if they’re Christian. Tell them that they’re stupid if they oppose sacrificing their standard of living on the altar of climate change.

        Step Two: Have the news media excoriate Trump in similar terms.

        Call him a racist, misogynistic, xenophobic, homophobic, idiot who doesn’t understand climate change. If Trump isn’t getting called these things often enough, he sends out an obnoxious tweet or two to make the press call him a xenophobe for opposing illegal immigration–or whatever else is working at the moment.

        Result: Trump becomes the champion of Middle America.

        Gabba Gabba
        We accept you.
        We accept you.
        One of us!

        The crucial ingredient is a press and party that sees itself as elitists who properly show nothing but contempt for the people of Middle America. I should add that this has all happened before and it will all happen again.

        “Reagan Democrats no longer saw the Democratic party as champions of their working class aspirations, but instead saw them as working primarily for the benefit of others: the very poor, feminists, the unemployed, African Americans, Latinos and other groups.”

        —-Reagan Democrat

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reagan_Democrat

        That was written about Reagan voters in the Midwest in 1980 and 1984, but it could have been written about Trump voters in 2016 and 2020.

        The progressives and social justice warriors know this, but what the point of being a progressive if you can’t lord over your inferiors? What’s the point of being a social justice warrior if you have to stop hating the white, blue collar, middle class?

        1. “Tell Middle America that they’re racist for being white. Tell them that they’re misogynistic if they oppose abortion. Tell them that they’re xenophobic if they oppose illegal immigration. Tell them that they’re homophobic if they’re Christian. Tell them that they’re stupid if they oppose sacrificing their standard of living on the altar of climate change.”

          strawman, strawman, strawman, oh, ok, oh wait, another strawman…

          1. No, it was all accurate.

            1. Then I assume you have many quotes of Biden telling people they are racist because they are white, or that they are homophobic if they are christian, etc.

              C’mon, Ken is doing the whole “Christians are under attack!” bit, and you are gonna let that slide? What’s going on, man? Everything ok?

              Are you gonna let Tony or Molly get away with a “Won’t someone think of the children?!” bit later, or is this a one time special waiver for Ken?

              1. “Are you gonna let Tony or Molly get away with a “Won’t someone think of the children?!” bit later, or is this a one time special waiver for Ken?”

                Speaking of strawmen, did you bring that one from home, or find it on the way here, you pile of lefty shit.

              2. I guess you’ve missed the whole culture war over the last 12 years?

                Wow.

                Regardless, just because you don’t like the way Middle America feels about the contempt with which they’re treated by progressives, social justice warriors, and the media, that doesn’t mean they don’t feel that way.

                1. I don’t don’t doubt that racists, misogynists, etc. have been taken to task in popular culture. What I take issue with is that that task taking applies to all white, christian americans, as you clearly think. I also don’t doubt that such criticism can go too far and ensnare people I don’t think deserving of that criticism. That does not mean that Trump is for the people and the people for him.

                  I also think that people think and believe a lot of stupid, easily disproven shit. Those people don’t like being called out for being factually incorrect, and instead of doing a little self reflection (“maybe I’m wrong?…”), they vote for someone who tells them they are right, facts be damned. The fact that these same people are often fake christians who also want to be able to shame people for having sex, or marrying outside their race, or for believing in scientific certainties like evolution is just an unfortunate coincidence. A coincidence that people who use appeals to authority and dogmatic or faith based thinking rather than critical thinking are doomed to eventual irrelevance on a societal scale as we become more scientifically advanced.

                  I think this is a case of you being a scumbag, feeling targeted by criticisms of other scumbags, and then assuming that you are just an average guy and the people laying criticism are enemies of average guys.

                    1. The sociopath really believes all this. Combine this with his fantasy of mowing us down with an Apache helicopter and it’s actually kinda scary.

                  1. This is one of the dumbest word salads you’ve ever posted, and that’s saying something. At least Tony has some logic behind his bitchy screeds.

              3. I think of them as a basket of deplorables.

                1. Do progressives think support for building a wall is xenophobic?

                  Do progressives think opposition to abortion is misogynistic?

                  Do progressives think opposing gay marriage is homophobic?

                  Do progressives think opposing affirmative action is racist?

                  Does it really need to be said that everyday, average, non-right wing extremist Americans commonly hold at least one of these views? In fact, there may not be many Republicans at all who don’t hold at least one of these views.

                  But, yes, this is what progressives are talking about when they talk about “deplorables”–everyday, average Americans. And support for these views is what they’re talking about, generally, when they’re talking about hate speech, too.

                  Progressives harbor a tremendous amount of contempt for average Americans and their opinions, and if they think getting rid of Trump will make populism go away, they’re wrong. The ultimate source of populism is elitist contempt for average people. The Democrats cannot have so much contempt for average Americans and not suffer the consequences in the form of populism.

                  1. “Does it really need to be said that everyday, average, non-right wing extremist Americans commonly hold at least one of these views? ”

                    You could go further. The older, less educated, the American, the more likely they are to ascribe to any or all of these views. Enjoy the gerontocracy while it lasts.

              4. Biden called the Capitol officers racist after the riots.

                1. That example won’t work for DOL cuz reasons. If he even responds.

              5. Lol, you’re just desperately flailing now.

              6. Biden reinstituted Critical Race Theory based “Diversity Training” which holds that to be white is to be racist.

          2. “strawman, strawman, strawman, oh, ok, oh wait, another strawman…”

            Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, one more bullshit.

      2. “You are glossing over that Trump’s personality is deeply offensive on its own, aside from who does or does not support him.”

        You, as a TDS-addled shit, focus purely *on* personality, ignoring actions.
        Hint: the POTUS ain’t mommy, and your adolescent desire for a mommy figures strongly in your TDS.
        Grow up.

      3. It’s funny how often things go sailing right over your head.

    3. “The progressives’ hatred of Donald Trump was mostly a function of their contempt for average Americans, with this statement being more or less emblematic of the psychosis. In fact, the reason so many average Americans came to see Trump as their champion was because he was treated as a whipping boy for middle America by the press.”

      And yet, Trump supporters and voters are a minority in this country. So you are claiming that the majority of Americans are motivated primarily by hate for “average Americans”. Average Americans at this point are Dem voters. Does not add up.

      Your analysis doesn’t pass basic logic testing, so far. I’m not even going to quote the part where you determine that anyone who rioted who doesn’t have explicit membership ties to a right wing org is therefor “an Average American”, because it is so stupid and incomplete, there really isn’t much there to even begin a real critique. Likewise with assertions that democrats (the plurality or majority of the country by every measure of polling, voting) hate average Americans.

      Ken is so clairvoyant that his predictions can violate simple arithmetic!

      Trump’s real crime (among many), was trying to overthrow the republic by preventing the outcome of an election to be carried out according to the constitution. That’s it. Not hard to understand, if you are even half way logical.

      His other crimes include violating the constitution’s prohibition on emoluments, assisting his children and staff in violating the Hatch Act numerous times, paying off a hooker and letting his personal attorney take the fall for him, welcoming and accepting the illegal campaign assistance of a rival country, withholding disbursements authorized by congress in order to further his personal ambitions rather than the country’s interests, etc..

      Yet another of Ken’s Walls of Sophistry is easily pulled down.

      This is about as hard as showing a news article of Joseph Smith getting caught and convicted in his 2nd con job to a Mormon. The Mormon knows he is defeated, but will never admit it, even to himself. Likewise, Ken and the rest of the cult will insist that though they are a minority opinion, by far, they are smarter and see clearer than the vast majority who say otherwise. Actual experts, doctors, scientists, constitutional lawyers or even SC judges are no match for the incredible intelligence and judgement that cult members ascribe to themselves.

      1. “…And yet, Trump supporters and voters are a minority in this country…”
        Let’s start with the obvious fact that you pulled that out of your ass; you have no way of knowing that.
        Then let’s accept that the US is structured to be a republic, largely in order to keep lefty shits like you from ruining the place.

        “…Trump’s real crime (among many), was trying to overthrow the republic by preventing the outcome of an election to be carried out according to the constitution. That’s it. Not hard to understand, if you are even half way logical…”
        No, it’s quite easy to understand that you are a lying sack of lefty shit. Were you triggered by a protest, snowflake?
        Trump did nothing of the sort, nor did the protesters. In order for shits like you to claim that “X” was intended, there must be some reasonable possibility that it *could* have happened, not simply that shits like you think it might.
        I can claim that I’m going to nuke slobberin’ Joe in the WH, but since I don’t have a nuke, nor an ability to deliver it, that ‘threat’ is nothing of the sort; it’s a fantasy, much like your raving.
        That’s easy enough for a caveman to understand, so *maybe*, even a TDS-addled low-watt asshole like you might get it.
        Take your time; if it takes weeks for you to figure that out, you’ll be better for the effort.
        If not, please fuck off and die.

        1. “carried out according to the constitution”

          Sure, like the part of the Constitution that says while the Vice President is rallying the electoral votes he can just toss out entire states’ votes on a whim.

          1. rallying -> tallying

          2. Who are you quoting, TDS-addled shit?

          3. I see; you’re replying to DOL, not me.

      2. Hey Ken, the average American wanted Trump convicted.

        https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/abcnews-impeachment-poll

        I assume you are going to rethink this whole “Trump is for average Americans and average American are for Trump” bit?

        1. Why is that important?

        2. Wait!

          I think I got it.

          Are you saying that the white, blue collar, middle class of the Midwest doesn’t qualify as average Americans?

          When you object to me saying that they’re treated with contempt, are you objecting on the basis that they should be treated with contempt?

          1. You are saying that Trump is for average americans, and they are for him. That is false, as I have shown.

            1. If you think that the 74 million Americans who voted for Trump are all right wing extremists, then you are a nut job.

              1. And if you think 80 million americans are all commies or sjw’s then you are a nut job.

                No matter how big the number of trump voters, it is less than half, and therefor not the average. The average american at this point in time is more likely a Biden voter than a Trump voter. Which kinda sinks your whole point about average americans and trump being naturally aligned.

                I get that you really don’t want to acknowledge that Trump lost the popular vote twice, and it was not even close, but there is no way I’m going to let someone claim that the most historically unpopular president in the history of polling and average Americans are in any way aligned.

                1. No. They are useful idiots. Just like you are. See all the tweets outraged about not getting another 2k stimulus retard.

                  1. Uh huh. How much money did Bannon steal from you before Trump pardoned him? If not you, then how about other Trump supporters? You don’t care?

                    Useful idiots, indeed.

                2. “And if you think 80 million americans are all commies or sjw’s then you are a nut job.”

                  You just can’t help yourself, can you?

        3. Same poll that had the hag as a shoo-in, TDS-addled shit?

      3. “And yet, Trump supporters and voters are a minority in this country. So you are claiming that the majority of Americans are motivated primarily by hate for “average Americans”.

        Let’s just stop right there.

        If you don’t know what swing voters are or why they’re important, you need to go educate yourself.

        And if you don’t know which states determine who does and doesn’t win the House, the Senate, and the White House, you need to go educate yourself about that, too.

        Suffice it to say, what 10% of the voters in Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin did in 2016 and 2020 was far, far more important than what 51% of the voters in California and New York did–regardless of whether you like it.

        Are they not teaching this stuff in Junior High Civics classes anymore?

        1. Aha. So your fictional “average american” was weighted for EC votes? Weird technique, but you do have to twist and contort just right to try to land a Trump argument.

          1. “The progressives’ hatred of Donald Trump was mostly a function of their contempt for average Americans, with this statement being more or less emblematic of the psychosis. In fact, the reason so many average Americans came to see Trump as their champion was because he was treated as a whipping boy for middle America by the press.”

            —-Ken Shultz

            I’m talking about average Americans–as in, they’re not right wing extremists. They’re average, everyday Americans.

            The contempt with which progressives and social justice warriors treat average Americans–not right wing extremists but average Americans–is what we’re talking about here.

            And if you can’t read descriptive terms in context, without doing a statistical analysis to find out if it’s precise, then you should go get your head examined.

            The 70% of Republicans who think the election wasn’t free and fair, are just everyday, average Americans, too–no matter whether you, the press, and the media paint them as right wing insurrectionists, too. If you’re so sick that you think 70% of Republicans are right wing extremists, then at the very best, you’re a propaganda victim, and at the very worst, you may need to see a professional and get a prescription for your anxiety disorder.

            1. “The 70% of Republicans who think the election wasn’t free and fair, are just everyday, average Americans, too–no matter whether you, the press, and the media paint them as right wing insurrectionists, too. If you’re so sick that you think 70% of Republicans are right wing extremists, then at the very best, you’re a propaganda victim, and at the very worst, you may need to see a professional and get a prescription for your anxiety disorder.”

              They are victims of a big lie, which you have acknowledged to be the case. That belief did not arise in a vacuum. It was fed to them by their cult leader, who is the only source of truth in their world (one of the signs of a cult, coincidentally).

              There are two types of Trump supporters: the true believers, like Nardz, Jesse, LC1789, who are not too bright, don’t know the ways of the world, and are genuine rubes. Then there is the other type of Trump supporter. The Machiavellian. This type knows that most of what Trump says to motivate the base is bullshit. And not typical over-promising politician bullshit, but lying about the weather when we call all see that it was not raining that hard at that D-Day event type of bullshit. (Or the inauguration crowd size, or the path of a hurricane, etc.) Real alternate reality type of lies. This Machiavellian knows that it is bullshit, and so is careful to never affirm or deny the crazy world narrative. Witness the very carefully constructed statements of Ted Cruz, or our own resident sophist, Ken, as examples.

              1. TIME spilled the beans that non-Lefties already saw the evidence of.

                Massive democrat election fraud, unconstitutional changes to election laws, judges violating their oaths of office, and Trump winning the plurality of legal votes in states that gave him the EC victory.

                It takes years to take down democrats because they are corrupt and have corrupt government allies. Sooner or later, democrats starting civil war 2.0 will lead to no more democrat party as a national party.

        2. Or are you unaware of Trump’s two (2) popular vote losses?

          1. Are you unaware that no candidate got a majority of the voting public?

          2. We don’t have popular votes retard.

            1. Well, those of us who can count do. And let me tell you, as a person who can count, Trump got fewer votes than the other guy, both times.

              Oh, and then he also polled as the most consistently and historically unpopular president in history.

              You should develop numeracy. It can be helpful.

              1. Do you have a target in mind for your sociopathic rage now that Trump’s not president, or are you just gonna stick with Trump and his CULT!?

                1. They’ll just continue to rage against average Americans.

                  Trump was a whipping boy. Now they’ll go back to flogging the real target of their hate–their fellow Americans.

                  This is also at the root of their hatred of markets and capitalism. Markets are people making choice, and they hate the people. Why would they want the people they hate to be free to make choices for themselves?

                  A progressive who wants people to be free to make choices for themselves is a heretic. Progressives who want the government to force them to make sacrifices are pious.

                  1. So you think “the left” or democrats or whatever hate average Americans?

                    The last two elections the democratic candidate has won the popular vote. By 7 million this last time.

                    So the “average American” voted for Biden. A lot of them not because they like Biden, the Dems, or their policies. They voted AGAINST Trump.

                    The people storming the capitol were Trump supporters.

                    It seems it’s Trump supporters that hate average Americans.

                    You far right kooks act like most people agree with you and your just “average Americans.”

                    You hate Biden and people who didn’t vote Republican.
                    It seems you’re the one who hates average Americans Ken.

                    1. “Poll: 70 percent of Republicans don’t think the election was free and fair

                      https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/09/republicans-free-fair-elections-435488

                      If you can’t tell the difference between average Americans and the average American, you’re an idiot.

                      If you think 70% of Republicans are insurrectionists, you need the services of a psychiatrist.

  17. Reminder: there’s no such thing as “President Day” or even “Presidents’ Day”. It simply doesn’t exist, no matter how often you hear it said in TV commercials.

  18. Semi-serious question: How can democracy support a free society when people are apparently so inclined to personality cults and imperial leadership?

    Tribalism is bad enough, but when hordes follow a Dear Leader, is it even possible to avoid authoritarian trends? Can average people even process social and political issues and choices on abstract ethical merits, or is it all narrative and hero worship?

    1. Well, your non “dear leader” candidate is now president.
      Enjoy the collective.

      1. The two major parties presented a choice between one candidate who has a huge “dear leader” cult following, and another who is bland and uninspiring, but was the number two man to a president who had a huge “dear leader” cult following.

        1. bland and uninspiring

          Proven to become a winning campaign strategy.

          1. “winning”
            *wink, wink*

            1. Or as Obama so succinctly put it:
              The election wasn’t close, and Joe Biden will be sworn in as President

          2. True. The best campaigner for Biden was Trump.

            1. You two should get a room, especially if you were banned for the same reason turd was.

        2. And openly authoritarian. You don’t care about that though.

    2. Most people don’t want a free society.

      1. ^^^ This is the answer.

        Albert Jay Nock wrote about “The Remnant”. While Nock was guilty of some lingering racism and statism, he was still pointed in the right direction. Towards liberty. He wrote that those who understood the true nature of the state and society were a small remnant. Which itself is a misnomer, as there was never a libertarian society to be a remnant of.

        But it touches upon a truth. People who want liberty for themselves and others, both inside and outside their tribe, are a tiny fraction of a minority. Freedom for me and my tribe, but not for thee and thine, is the grand motto of the United States of America. In the past twenty years the US has declined steadily in all measures of freedom. We went from number one to down around number seven or eight. We were never a truly free nation, but we have declined from our ascent.

        People don’t want a free society.

        1. The left doesn’t even pretend to want a free society. Conservatives used to pretend, but in the last four years they stopped doing even that.

        2. Disagree. People do want a free society. Just not as certain about what that really means now as it meant in the past.

        3. It is an old story that repeats itself through history.

          From the book of Samuel.

          Samuel told all the words of the LORD to the people who were asking him for a king.
          11
          He said, “This is what the king who will reign over you will do: He will take your sons and make them serve with his chariots and horses, and they will run in front of his chariots.
          12
          Some he will assign to be commanders of thousands and commanders of fifties, and others to plow his ground and reap his harvest, and still others to make weapons of war and equipment for his chariots.
          13
          He will take your daughters to be perfumers and cooks and bakers.
          14
          He will take the best of your fields and vineyards and olive groves and give them to his attendants.
          15
          He will take a tenth of your grain and of your vintage and give it to his officials and attendants.
          16
          Your menservants and maidservants and the best of your cattle [2] and donkeys he will take for his own use.
          17
          He will take a tenth of your flocks, and you yourselves will become his slaves.
          18
          When that day comes, you will cry out for relief from the king you have chosen, and the LORD will not answer you in that day.”
          19
          But the people refused to listen to Samuel. “No!” they said. “We want a king over us.
          20
          Then we will be like all the other nations, with a king to lead us.

          1. Meet the new boss…

    3. Because there’s so much power invested in the presidency and the government in general, people who just want to be left alone have nobody to vote for. They can vote against the perceived lesser of two evils, but they can’t vote for anyone. That’s why I stopped voting.

      The dangerous one, and these comments are full of them, are the ones who vote for someone. As opposed to voting against the other guy.

      Those are the ones who are steeped in the cult of presidency. They worship their person, and assume that those who disagree with them worship the other guy because they can’t comprehend not worshipping someone. It’s like having a conversation with someone who supports central economic planning. Try to explain laissez faire and they ask “So you want the corporations centrally planning the economy?” They simply cannot comprehend an unplanned economy. And worshippers of politicians cannot comprehend not worshipping a politician.

      1. Yup. I once ran across a guy (at a Republican convention nonetheless) who was so steeped in central planning he could not imagine the universe without it. He claimed that the government was necessary to plan deliveries from farms to grocers. He had absolutely no clue as to how the real world works.

        And he’s just a representative sample. A college kid to be sure, but a college kid with a Political Science major volunteering for an otherwise market friendly Republican politician.

        1. “Market-friendly” republicans who pretend to be libertarians around here are now arguing for positive rights. Twitter owes them a megaphone! And if you disagree you must be a communist who is in love with Joe Biden.

          1. public private partnership

          2. Glad you’re on board with repealing the Civil Rights Act, too.

            1. If you want to cite the law, you are going to open yourself up to the many ways in which the civil rights act explicitly does not apply to the twitter situation. Which is to say, it only weakens your argument.

              Your only argument available is to say that conservatives should also be considered a protected minority class, but I’m not sure you want to go there.

              The only libertarian take on the whole thing would be that positive rights don’t exist for anyone, regardless of protected class. Of course, that would still leave Trump and assorted proto fascists out in the cold without their precious twitter handles…

              1. No, dummy, like I did with sarcasmic a couple weeks ago, I’m pointing out that “freedom of association” as a principle means that something like the Civil Rights Act should never have been passed. You’re either completely for it, or you’re not and are willing to give in where not otherwise doing so might inconvenience you or get people to call you mean names–which fits in nicely with your middle-school clique paradigm.

      2. I like the thought that not having a central plan is not an absence of planning as the central planners like to claim, but is instead the plans of billions of individuals planning for themselves.

    4. Democracy works, until voters realize they can vote themselves cash from the public treasury (or from debt to be repaid by future voters).

      I think we crossed that bridge sometime last year.

      1. Even better is electing Santa Claus as president.

  19. Well this is nice. CDC admits it changed school reopening guidance due to lobby pressure and not science.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/OpenFCPS2020/status/1361271178078355457

  20. On This Presidents Day, Stop Worshiping the Imperial Presidency

    Commentariat – I will prattle on and on and on and on about how great my favorite President is and how my life is just not as meaningful if that favorite is not around to grace my life with his presence.

    1. JFree:
      ‘I will prattle on about what the voices in my head say and project that on others.
      I’m pretty stupid that way, among others.
      Hell, I even believe saying the magic words “fight climate change!” will stop the CA wildfires, but just can’t seem to figure out how’.

  21. > Presidents aren’t saints. They aren’t monarchs. They aren’t celebrities. And they aren’t your friends.

    HERESY!!!

    Seriously, the most distressing part of the past four and a half years on the Reason comment section was the swarm of “libertarians” worshiping the imperial presidency. Outside of the commentariat I’ve seen Big L libertarians join the presidents ranks. I’ve seen libertarians argue for tariffs, argue that spending doesn’t matter. I’ve seen self-proclaimed anarchists argue that the state is necessary to secure national borders from the Other.

    The Worship of the Imperial Presidency is our new national religion, and it supersedes any other creed or ideology.

    1. The Worship of the Imperial Presidency is our new national religion, and it supersedes any other creed or ideology.

      I think First Responder Worship is a tolerated equivalent.

      1. My wife watches those shows all the time. I think it is just those hunky guys in uniforms.

        1. That’s a bit personal, but thank you for sharing. I guess.

          1. Hey you think I watch Gal Godot movies for the plot?

            1. My ex thought I liked House because of the clever writing.

              1. Sarc gets wood from Omar Epps.

              2. Was a decent show in the first couple seasons. The Sherlock Holmes references. He uses empirical method to solve problems and Socratic method to teach his fellows. Then it just became another soap opera.

      2. and the First Responder is usually the second responder in real life.

        1. But, but, but…. 9/11! We must praise First Responders because 9/11!

  22. Although many partisans worshipped Dubya, Obama, and Trump it is safe to say no one worships Biden since he won by default on the ‘Anyone But Bernie’ platform.

    1. True, but he does get some reflected “glory” from those who worshiped Barack Obama.

    2. The only thing I really like about Biden as President is that he is kind of bland and boring, and doesn’t have much of a cult of personality.

      1. And he loves children.
        https://youtu.be/5XqF4wA-dco?t=12

    3. You didn’t read any of his inaugural coverage, which is probably a good thing.

      1. They’d be shocked at the medias current camp David coverage.

        1. Yes he played Mario Kart with his granddaughter Naomi. Apparently he won the race by a slim margin. Tough to keep up with kiddo in a Nintendo game. I actually played that this past weekend with my family.

    4. And this excuses bidens authoritarian platform and actions how? You actually seem to be excusing it.

      At least he’s a bland dictator!!!!

      God damn you all are pathetic.

      1. He’s not even a dictator. He’s an animatronic figure wheeled out to spout platitudes and sound non-threatening while his arm signs executive orders by remote control.

  23. You might see those lame stickers in SoCal but you see hardly any in EDCO. Remember there are 2 Ca’s – Us. And those people.

  24. When George Washington decided not to run for a 3rd term he said the nation needs to be more than one person. Never saw that humility again until Calvin Coolidge. In our nations capital there are monuments to Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln and what they all have in common is they have all been replaced.
    We do need to end the cult like following.

  25. If there’s a political drama with any real importance shaping up, it’s probably over the Biden’s appointment to the Secretary of the Interior.

    The Democratic congresswoman from New Mexico has joined with pipeline protesters, supported the Green New Deal and opposed fracking on public lands. For a cabinet post that oversees the government’s longstanding, multibillion-dollar partnership with drillers on federal lands, Ms. Haaland’s environmental politics are in contrast to those of her predecessors.

    “Fracking is a danger to the air we breathe and water we drink,” she wrote in 2017, the year before she was elected to Congress. “The auctioning off of our land for fracking and drilling serves only to drive profits to the few.”

    —-WSJ

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/interior-secretary-nominee-on-collision-course-with-oil-industry-11613318400?

    The price of oil wasn’t much of an issue during the pandemic, when prices were hovering just above $30 a barrel. As the economy continues to gain steam, oil prices are now up to $60 a barrel. Shutting down pipelines, freezing new drilling permits on federal land, and rejoining the Paris climate accord is one thing when the price of oil isn’t much of an issue. When oil rises in price sufficiently to be a drain on consumers’ discretionary income, their priorities change.

    If I were betting on an issue to see the Republicans use the filibuster, it might be over this appointment. The places where stiff-arming this nomination might hurt them are mostly in deep blue states.

    1. When oil rises in price sufficiently to be a drain on consumers’ discretionary income, their priorities change.

      There’s not much discretionary income when 60% of the country is unemployed.

      1. Sure there is plenty of discretionary income, especially when so many of them working from home don’t need to spend money on things like clothes and transportation.

        Poorer people always have less discretionary income, and yet those little comforts are probably more important to them–and they lose them the most to fluctuations in the price of oil.

        And I hope the larger point isn’t getting lost that as the economy comes back after the pandemic, things that arbitrarily hurt people’s quality of life will become more apparent. Their discretionary income wasn’t hurt by rising oil prices when they were unemployed or working from home. Once they start commuting again and once they’re employed again, rising oil prices will be a more important issue than it used to be.

        1. A lot of them will not work again or will continue working from home.

          One of the other benefits is your car lasts longer and needs less repair.

          1. There have always been reasons why oil prices go both higher and lower. Prices spiking are generally worse in regards to public opinion. I’m not aware of any voters being happy with Nixon or Carter because oil prices were spiking during the oil crises. Lots of voting consumers were absolutely upset about it.

            Obama was never so unpopular as he was when he shut down drilling in the Gulf during the Gulf oil spill, and to the extent that oil prices go up, Biden and the Democrats can expect to take a hit to their approval ratings–especially if people connect those higher prices to his policies on drilling, pipelines, the Paris accord, the Green New Deal, etc.

            When prices are down, the electorate may not give you much credit for it, but when prices are up, they look for someone to blame. Traditionally, it’s been hard to find a time when oil prices are soaring and the economy is doing great. They usually move in tandem–just like oil prices have almost doubled since the worst of the pandemic as the rest of the economy has started to recover.

            That being said, Biden and the Democrats aren’t hoping for higher oil prices. Oil is more of an American industry since the fracking revolution, so higher prices can mean good things in some parts of the country, but generally speaking, from a consumer/voter perspective, higher oil prices is not good news for incumbent Democrats or Biden any more than the pandemic was good news for Trump–something else that, like high oil prices, hurts the economy generally.

            1. “Traditionally, it’s been hard to find a time when oil prices are soaring [falling] and the economy is doing great.”

              —-Ken Shultz

              Fixed!

              But you probably knew what I meant.

        2. My point, Ken, was to say (somewhat hyperbolically, I admit) that when gas prices go up sharply when a huge portion of your country is unemployed, it doesn’t just sting, it’s a catastrophe.

          1. I got so many people saying so many crazy things to me, it’s like I got shell shock.

    2. God damn those few who got their evil profits by powering the world for the past 100 years (and saving the whales).

      New Mexico is fucked, too. The state used to get lots of revenue (not to mention happy people with high-paying oil jobs) from the northwest and southeast corners of the state. Now the NW is dying, and new policies will kill the SE. That leaved federal dollars, Indian-tourism, and tamales.

  26. This is an understatement. “Presidents aren’t saints. They aren’t monarchs. They aren’t celebrities. And they aren’t your friends.”

  27. Im gonna follow the lead of the Trump supporters when he was in office.

    Most criticism of Biden is BDS. Biden derangement syndrome. Looks like the majority of reason commenters have it.

    In all seriousness I don’t like Biden, but at least he’s a senile fool who will listen to others and accept he’s not always right. Trump was a senile old fool who could never be wrong. That’s more dangerous in my opinion.

    1. Listen to others = sign any executive order his progressive handlers put in front of him.

    1. So does sullum.

  28. I didn’t pay attention to the impeachment, but jesus christ, I just heard the Democratic impeachment team photoshopped a blue checkmark on an unverified account to give it ‘credibility’.

    A senior impeachment aide said the inclusion of a fake blue check verification mark on tweets that were presented at the Senate trial was an accident.

    The tweets showed comments from Jennifer Lynn Lawrence who was retweeted by former President Trump. The two tweets that were exhibited included blue check marks next to Lawrence’s name.

    Blue checks show the user’s identity has been verified and also connote a certain status.

    You don’t trip backwards accidentally photoshop a blue checkmark on a fucking twitter account.

      1. That’s scandalous. Almost as scandalous as telling a big lie for months that still has 30% of Americans brainwashed against their own constitution.

        1. Free speech is more scandalous than doctored evidence at trial…

          1. Look at this mouth-breather, trying to pretend that the president can say whatever he wants without consequence. Trying to pretend that the 1a protects all speech in all cases. I guess I can reveal any classified info to China and claim free speech? I guess Rudy did not just get sued for a couple billion for all the lies he has told? Yup, because of 1a, nothing anyone says can be considered criminal or even just negligent.

            Jesse is both stupid and dishonest, and in this case he is showing us both qualities.

            Jesse, you would look less like a hyper partisan douche bag if you familiarized yourself with a couple core concepts. Those being primarily, but not exhaustively: duty, loyalty, honesty.

            1. Look at the TDS-addled lefty shit trying to infer something Trump said should be illegal.
              What, specifically, might that be.

              1. He spoke out. Using the 1A. Which everyone including the president is allowed to do.

                Stolen Valor doesn’t understand that. I dont think he should be locked up for lying about his service, but I will continue to call him a lying lefty shit.

            2. Lol. Again. A fake soldier against the first amendment.

              God youre a sick lefty statist.

              1. With TDS that’s got him still shrieking with rage all over this website.

              2. I guess I can sell all this TS info I have then. I can also say whatever I want at a job, and can’t be fired for it! Boy, the 1a is great!

                1. So you just want Trump fired? Did you miss that he’s not President anymore?

            3. Shitbag, still looking for you to provide the exact quote where you imagine Trump no longer was under A1 protection.
              Somehow, regardless of all the shit you continue to pull out of your ass and post here, you seem incapable of providing that information.
              Might it be that you are full of shit, and have nothing of the sort? That you are a fucking lefty ignoramus, and hope your bullshitting might pass without support?
              Or perhaps, like turd, your mental abilities are of such limits that you really have no idea when you’re shoveling lefty shit.

  29. How about going back to just honoring Washington instead of debasing him by associating him with Fillmore, Buchanan, Wilson and other lamewads?

    1. I would also contend that celebrating Washington’s Birthday doesn’t mean exclusively (or even largely) celebrating him as President – rather it celebrates him as the victorious Revolutionary general without whom we’d have no country for anyone to be President *of.*

      1. We also celebrate him for seeking office only through electoral means, not military coups as in many other countries on this continent.

        1. The moment where Washington truly earned his honor was quashing the Newburgh Conspiracy, rather than taking leadership of it. The test that Cromwell failed before him and Bolivar failed after, Washington passed.

          If he’d died in 1786, with no role in the Constitutional Convention and never becoming President, that still would have earned him the place of foremost honor among all Americans.

          1. Yes, indeed. Though having him available did influence the Founders in establishing a Presidency which was more than a committee of ciphers, which believe it or not was an actual risk at that time.

  30. On Presidents day we see once again the Democrats and their liberal media lied that the officer that died in the riot died from being hit in the with a fire extinguisher to bring down an ex-President. The New York Times retracted their story. It is headlines almost everywhere to but the “WOKE” libertarian website Reason. Well I doubt you will see it on CNN or MSNBC either.
    “New York Times Retracts Story Claiming Capitol Officer Brian Sicknick Was Killed in Riot”
    ussanews – February 14, 2021
    “Law enforcement officials initially said Mr. Sicknick was struck with a fire extinguisher, but weeks later, police sources and investigators were at odds over whether he was hit. Medical experts have said he did not die of blunt force trauma, according to one law enforcement official.”
    Actually in this fast moving news cycle it is already OLD NEWS.

    1. It is still possible it is the correct story. The final investigation report will hopefully clarify.

      It has not been disproven that he died from being hit with a fire extinguisher, although it is not as certain as originally reported.

      It is obvious he died as a consequence of fighting the rioters that day, and not simply a coincidence. Unless you are a right-wing partisan who really wants the inconvenient fact of his death to go away.

      1. Yeah, the autopsy already disputes he died from head trauma. You better check with CNN or MSNBC to tell you the truth!!!

        1. We will see when the final report comes out.

          We know he died of a stroke. That is an internal blood vessel breakage in the brain. That could happen without any bruising on his skin or other signs of head trauma.

          It is highly unlikely it is just a coincidence he happened to die of a burst blood vessel in his brain by coincidence on the same day he was struggling with rioters.

          1. ‘It is highly unlikely it is just a coincidence he happened to die of a burst blood vessel in his brain by coincidence on the same day he was struggling with rioters.”

            Was it a dialectical struggle, TDS-addled shit?
            Cite in support of your bullshit?
            But keep grasping for straws, TDS-addled shit.

        2. Actually they found no evidence of physical trauma at all. He was obviously not injured at the demonstration.

          1. Dude died from a broken blood vessel in his brain. That is evidence of trauma, right there.

      2. Correlation is not causation. I am not a right wing partisan or even a Trump supporter. I did not vote for Trump, and would never vote for Biden. I do support the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the rule of law and equal justice under the law. I am a libertarian, something you will seldom find here on Reason. Just deciding Trump had a rally that day makes him responsible is nonsense. People die every day of medical complications. 5 people died that day, 3 at least from medical complications. Only one was killed, the woman executed by a Secret Service agent. If you watch the video she was executed. Ask yourself how the intrepid FBI could catch an envelope thief in two days, but doesn’t have a suspect, name, picture or person of interest in a month after a Capitol policeman was killed? Ask yourself how 4 officers where named in hours of George Floyd dying of an overdose, but there is still no name to the Secret Service agent that killed the woman? There are none so blind as those that refuse to see.

        1. That’s fine. If you are a libertarian, rather than a Trump partisan, good for you. We can wait and see what the final investigation report shows.

          Many of the Trump partisans here act as if the autopsy statement about lack of head trauma cleared their rioting buddies. It is still highly likely Sicknick died of injuries sustained during the riots.

          1. “Many of the Trump partisans here act as if the autopsy statement about lack of head trauma cleared their rioting buddies.”

            Many of the TDS-addled shits here act as if that didn’t pretty much put lie to your bullshit.

          2. Oh, and BTW, try an honest spelling: “protesters”. It might keep you from looking like the fucking lefty ignoramus you are.

      3. “It has not been disproven that he died from being hit with a fire extinguisher,..”

        It also has not been disproven that you were banned for kiddie porn, like your BFF turd, TDS-addled shit.

    2. Without the official forensic pathology report it is all speculation and confirmation bias. They won’t release it now because of the ongoing investigation. The rest is whispers and rumors.

      It would be a remarkable coincidence if he just returned from a violent confrontation, walked into his station, collapsed and became unconscious, was rushed to the hospital and died the next day from a spontaneous cause. So there is reason to wait for the actual medical evidence. Possible but think of the probability. Those press quotes are nothing but rumors and not attributed.

      Oh and a closed head injury often has no external sign of trauma. Brains are squishy and squash around so they bruise easily. What is a concussion? Often there is nothing to see from the outside.

      We don’t really know and I am not sure what difference it makes. We do know what we saw and most people are shocked and horrified.

      1. “We don’t really know and I am not sure what difference it makes. We do know what we saw and most people are shocked and horrified.”
        The only thing that shock and horrifies me is the FBI knew the riot was planned, notified the Senior members of the House and Senate, and not only was nothing done, help was turned down!

        1. So, you have no problem with Trump’s telling McCarthy “I guess they care about the election more than you” [might not be exact quote] when McCarthy asked Trump to call of his supporters?

          1. Dee is doing his Cathy Newman impersonation again folks.

          2. Hey Dee, you never responded to multiple people who asked to explain what you think alt-right means, and how it applies to people here.

          3. ‘So, you have no problem with Trump’s telling McCarthy “I guess they care about the election more than you” [might not be exact quote] when McCarthy asked Trump to call of his supporters?”

            No, TDS-addled shit I have no problem with some 3rd-person gossip, especially when you (a noted TDS-addled shit) are the claimant.
            BTW, did you hear that cop died of that stroke IN THE SAME MONTH as the protest??!?!

  31. I think one thing everyone can do is to stop calling former presidents, senators, governors, etc., “President”, “Senator”, “Governor”, etc. These are titles of jobs, not nobility.

    1. What about former college football coaches?

  32. When Jimmy Carter was elected President, he wanted to make the office less regal. This was a response to Richard Nixon who had tried to make the Presidency more imperial. I remember Carter walked back from the Inauguration ceremony to show a humbler face. He was roundly criticized for that walk. President Carter seemed to want to make the office less important. He did a lot of deregulation. He talked to people about the future and the need for them to be prepared and personally responsible for adapting to the future.

    In the end the American voters did not like this idea of a less important Presidency. They wanted a big talking President and so Carter was out and Ronald Reagan was in.

    We elect a President every four years. The person who says they will work hard and get the job done, the person who makes no big promise, is the first person out in the primary.

    1. Yup. And now the small government in rhetoric only crowd has sanctified Reagan and vilified Carter. You see, actions don’t count to them, rhetoric and cultural signalling does. They will justify all the actions post hoc, no matter how much twisting, equivocating, and sophistry that requires. Just as Ken does here daily.

      1. To be fair, everyone vilified Carter. And Reagan talked a good game, better than anyone since.

        1. Good hair goes a long way.

  33. It’s already happening. I only saw one Biden sign in my whole California neighborhood.

  34. Maybe Congress should stop ceding so much power to the Executive branch, and actually legislate.

    1. But that’s work and then they’d be accountable. This way they can throw up their hands and say “I didn’t make the law!”

    2. The founders made the mistake of thinking that a 2 year position as the least powerful federal lawmaker would not be sufficient motivation to betray your country over.

  35. Sorry, Billy, but I can’t stop doing something I’ve never done. Far from “worshiping” any president, it’s lucky if I don’t hold them in contempt.

    The last president I didn’t detest (and actually sort of liked) is Calvin Coolidge, and that’s just through what I’ve read about him, since that was 100 years ago.

  36. Here’s a fun fact —
    President Trump, His Administration and the GOP Congress at the start; RAN the most cuts to the Power of the Federal Government ever seen in over 100-years.

    A fact that made lefty-authoritarians really, really, really mad… So mad in-fact they couldn’t argue the support so instead started flat out lying and projecting their own ‘authoritarian’ desires onto the least ‘authoritarian’ president we ever had.

    1. Yup. Worst kind of dictator is one who tells you that you can’t boss people around.

  37. “In Venice, after a doge who attempted to make himself autocrat was beheaded for his offense, subsequent doges were followed in official processions by a sword-bearing symbolic executioner as a reminder of the punishment intended for any leader who attempted to assume dictatorial power.”
    ~ Mancur Olson

    Given our recent experience, this quote reads as an excellent and necessary to recall lesson from history.

    1. Given our recent experience, you’ve proven yourself to be a TDS-addled pile of shit.

      1. Sevo is obviously confused as 52 executive actions in one month, a military purge and troops occupying the Capitol are definitely not indicative autocratic power, but tweeting mean things about journalism is.
        Haven’t you ALCALLS heard of a chilling effect before? Probably not, because you’re a cult.

  38. OT, but totally on topic:

    There is something seriously broken about the Reason.com website.

    The “Latest” listing page shows a staggering 235 links blocked by AdBlock. This page showed 139 blocked ads on this page. Since there clearly are not this many ads running, some advertiser must have some nefarious attempt at making an end-run around adblock, probably looping many attempts to get around it.

    As I have stated before, I’m happy to support Reason with ad revenue. But one of my preferred browsing platforms is a little netbook…. and without adblock Reason is nearly unusable. It chews up memory and brings the whole thing to a crawl, with “this page is not responding” alerts suggesting I just close the danged thing.

    Please do something about this. Fix it, and Reason is whitelisted in adblock the next day.

    1. I experienced similar trouble using the i3 WM and the Palemoon browser. I switched over to the latest Firefox and things improved. Now if I could only remove the “Visit Here” scam artists that infest the top of every page published here, I could put more effort into stymieing the forces of reaction.

    2. Unreason is getting glitchier because its run by commie hacks.

      The commies cant convince libertarians of the lefty lies anymore, so revenue is drying up.

      unreason hacks made their propaganda beds and lie in them. Until unreason is bought for pennies on the dollar by someone who fires all the commie staff.

  39. Poor commie staff at unreason.

    Trump is the last and best president the United States had before civil war 2.0 gets resolved against the democrats that started both american civil wars.

    1. You’ve already demonstrated your uncanny inability to predict the future. We had to hear from your for months about Trump’s 2021 – 2024 second term.

      1. TDS-addled shit? Look directly below. And grow up, if you can.

  40. Once more. The intro quote came from ODL, but it may as well come from many other TDS-addled lefty shits:

    “…Trump’s real crime (among many), was trying to overthrow the republic by preventing the outcome of an election to be carried out according to the constitution. That’s it. Not hard to understand, if you are even half way logical…”

    No, it’s quite easy to understand that you are a lying sack of lefty shit. Were you triggered by a protest, snowflake?
    Trump did nothing of the sort, nor did the protesters. In order for shits like you to claim that “X” was intended, there must be some reasonable possibility that it *could* have happened, not simply that shits like you think it might.
    I can claim that I’m going to nuke slobberin’ Joe in the WH, but since I don’t have a nuke, nor an ability to deliver it, that ‘threat’ is nothing of the sort; it’s a fantasy, much like your raving. Similarly, the capitol protesters had zero ability to affect the outcome of the election, regardless of your case of the vapors.
    That’s easy enough for a caveman to understand, so *maybe*, even a TDS-addled low-watt asshole like you might get it.
    Take your time; if it takes weeks for you to figure that out, you’ll be better for the effort.
    If not, please fuck off and die.
    ODL, WK, turd, Tony, Jeff, sarc, and the occasional TDS-addled who who shows up, you all need this wiped all over your faces, every day, along with the lies regarding the cop who died of a stroke.
    Not a one of you argues in good faith, all of you are obsessed with Trump’s personality as if Daddy really doesn’t love you!
    Grow up. It is possible to become an adult, but you have to do some work and perhaps outgrow your juvenile fantasies.

    1. “Similarly, the capitol protesters had zero ability to affect the outcome of the election, regardless of your case of the vapors.”

      Because they weren’t serious about their stated goal to ‘stop the steal.’ One woman was, and she made the ultimate sacrifice while the morons around her only managed to watch her bleed to death. These clowns might just as well have stayed in their basements posting insulting internet messages.

  41. President Trump, His Administration and the GOP Congress at the start; RAN the most cuts to the Power of the Federal Government ever seen in over 100-years.

    Exactly. And libertarians all over this site have nothing but complaints about him. It's amazing.

    1. He didn’t do enough. I mean he didn’t even legalize weed.

  42. Simple solution, prohibit government from initiating force. I suggest a 28th amendment, “Government shall not initiate force.”

    1. Good luck with that. My 28th amendment would be to abolish all the state senates. They are silly and pointless and a waste of money.

      1. I absolutely agree with this. The United States senate is representation per area - with the area's being the states. They are a remnant of alexander H's federalism. And they are very much needed to represent rural areas, whereas the state senates seems to reflect the state houses in representation per person, and I never understood why we had redundant representation per person in two houses.

  43. With my amendment we probably would. What small percentage of what government does now doesn’t involve the initiatory use of force?

  44. Late to comment here but my 2 cents:

    Presidents are a reflection of who we are: Narcissists and blathering idiots

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